| smartboyhw | s/meni/menu/ | 00:00 |
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| kubotu | smartboyhw meant: "Guys, where (which package) is the configuration for the menu tabs stored?" | 00:00 |
| apachelogger | smartboyhw: kubuntu-settings | 00:14 |
| ScottK | dantti: I'm out of ideas then. | 01:00 |
| dantti | ScottK: oh :/ I thought you are going to tell me good news :P | 01:06 |
| dantti | maybe I should try 13.10 :P or gummiboot | 01:06 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: ping | 01:13 |
| ahoneybun | Darkwing: ? | 02:05 |
| ScottK | dantti: If Ubuntu fails too, you might ask stgraber during the day on #ubuntu-devel. | 02:07 |
| dantti | ok thanks :) | 02:07 |
| ScottK | He might be around now too. | 02:07 |
| ahoneybun | hey ScottK | 02:08 |
| ScottK | Heya. | 02:10 |
| ahoneybun | what's up | 02:10 |
| ScottK | I've got a cold. | 02:24 |
| ahoneybun | oh that sucjs | 02:24 |
| ahoneybun | sucks | 02:24 |
| dantti | ScottK: funny if I use efibootmgr and set the next boot to Windows it boots fine... | 02:40 |
| dantti | but using the bios option to boot windows doesn't | 02:41 |
| ScottK | Weird. I don't have any experience with it myself. | 02:41 |
| dantti | well i should work well (at least without secure boot) and afaik it's a good intel standard | 02:42 |
| dantti | *it | 02:42 |
| ahoneybun | /away | 04:06 |
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| valorie | hi, ahoneybun | 04:35 |
| markey | gaaah, Muon is so freaking unstable | 06:06 |
| markey | it crashes when the wind blows gently | 06:06 |
| soee_ | good morning | 06:24 |
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| apachelogger | markey: file a bug report plz | 08:45 |
| markey | for AudioData? | 08:46 |
| apachelogger | for muon crashing | 08:46 |
| markey | oh heh, wrong channel. thought this was multimedia | 08:46 |
| markey | ok | 08:46 |
| vHanda | https://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/487175-nepomuk-constant-crashing.html | 09:35 |
| vHanda | shadeslayer: Have a look at this please ^ | 09:36 |
| vHanda | This is a similar issue to the one that guy was having yesterday | 09:36 |
| vassie | hello, i packaged an app for raring, i have just updated and uploaded it to my ppa, i'm not sure what i need to do next | 11:19 |
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| palasso | May I fix typos I see on the Kubuntu Docs? | 11:40 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:50 |
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| yofel | RFC: ubiquity has an option to "install updates while installing". Would it be totally insane to enable that by default? | 12:06 |
| xnox | yofel: it has an option to "_download_ updates while installing" it doesn't install them. | 12:07 |
| yofel | xnox: so the user needs to still install them once he's in the installed system? | 12:07 |
| xnox | yofel: yeap, it's just they are prefetched and ready to install. E.g. on ubuntu the software updater pops up saying "Updates are ready to be installed" | 12:08 |
| yofel | hm, why can't ubiquity install them right away? | 12:08 |
| xnox | yofel: no known final & reproducible install state. If installations go awray, very hard to debug & easy to fail installation. At least with a CD image, we know all of those packages install, because well we had to install them to build the cd in the first place. | 12:10 |
| yofel | true :S | 12:10 |
| xnox | yofel: also see ubuntu installation specification document, which has a paragraphs about this checkbox, behaviour, and reasoning. | 12:10 |
| yofel | oh, where is that? | 12:10 |
| jussi | hehe, this was funny... | 12:19 |
| jussi | jussi@starling:~$ apt-cache search weather unity | 12:20 |
| jussi | plasma-widgets-addons - additional widgets for Plasma | 12:20 |
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| palasso | baltolkien__, plz don't reconnect all the time, you're flooding the channel with messages | 13:30 |
| yofel | apachelogger: btw, what's the status of your kde-frameworks daily-build-framework? | 13:31 |
| smartboyhw | !ops | baltokien | 13:34 |
| ubottu | baltokien: Help! Riddell, amu, imbrandon, Hobbsee, Tm_T or jussi01 | 13:34 |
| smartboyhw | Help, it's trolling… | 13:34 |
| smartboyhw | Quit and join messages | 13:34 |
| yofel | note: at least the ubuntu IRC ops don't count that as trolling | 13:35 |
| yofel | most clients can disable join/quit messages | 13:35 |
| yofel | s/disable/hide/ | 13:35 |
| kubotu | yofel meant: "most clients can hide join/quit messages" | 13:35 |
| smartboyhw | OK then… | 13:36 |
| smartboyhw | :O | 13:36 |
| yofel | thanks nevertheless Pici | 13:36 |
| Pici | np | 13:36 |
| BluesKaj | but it's still a PITA for thiose of us who prefer to have quits and joins enabled | 13:36 |
| smartboyhw | Pici: Thx :) | 13:36 |
| smartboyhw | BluesKaj: Sane | 13:36 |
| smartboyhw | *Same | 13:36 |
| palasso | May I fix typos when I see them on Kubuntu Docs? | 13:37 |
| smartboyhw | palasso: Which Kubuntu docs do you mean? | 13:37 |
| palasso | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/ | 13:37 |
| palasso | Some of them have some typos that I noticed while reading them | 13:38 |
| smartboyhw | palasso: Sure. | 13:40 |
| palasso | kthnx | 13:40 |
| yofel | I doubt they'll mind if you just go ahead and fix them, but poke ahoneybun or Darkwing to make sure it's fixed in all places they work on right now | 13:40 |
| palasso | I see valorie is editing them and since she's around I'll ask her if I can edit to fix typos when I see them.. | 13:44 |
| yofel | is someone working on backporting amarok 2.7.1? | 13:47 |
| smartboyhw | Or, is the new KTp in? | 13:47 |
| yofel | Quintasan_, shadeslayer ^ | 13:48 |
| BluesKaj | it's default in 13.10 | 13:49 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: newest is? I see 0.6.X in archives | 13:49 |
| Riddell | vassie: best to put any packaging changes in the changelog | 14:26 |
| Riddell | I'll put a line for "new build-depends libcdparanoia-dev, libmusicbrainz5-dev, libcddb2-dev | 14:26 |
| Riddell | vassie: uploaded to saucy! | 14:28 |
| yofel | Mamarok: 4.10.3 announcement out, sorry for the delay | 14:30 |
| Riddell | thanks yofel | 14:30 |
| Riddell | sorry I failed to do that | 14:31 |
| yofel | well, you and me both | 14:31 |
| vassie | Riddell: what do i need to do for raring? | 14:37 |
| Riddell | vassie: various options | 14:37 |
| Riddell | vassie: it's in your PPA so that could be good enough, we could put it into the kubuntu backports PPA or you could go through the backports process for the proper thing | 14:38 |
| vassie | Riddell: how did it make it into the official repo before? how do i upgrade that package? | 14:38 |
| Riddell | vassie: that was before raring was released | 14:39 |
| vassie | Riddell: ah, ok | 14:39 |
| Riddell | vassie: now that it's been released it's frozen hard | 14:39 |
| vassie | Riddell: kubuntu backports ppa? what about that? | 14:40 |
| Riddell | vassie: yeah I can throw it into there | 14:40 |
| vassie | Riddell: thanks, how can i veiw the changes you made, so i know for next time | 14:41 |
| Riddell | vassie: just changed the changelog http://paste.kde.org/748892/ | 14:43 |
| vassie | Riddell: thanks | 14:45 |
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| Riddell | hi howard_ | 16:11 |
| Riddell | howard_: interested in helping Kubuntu? | 16:11 |
| howard_ | Current lurking. Interested in observing next Kubuntu Team meeting. Recently joined work project using Kubuntu (I am mostly a Debian user) | 16:13 |
| Riddell | howard_: oh cool,let us know what good/bad points you find | 16:20 |
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| soee | agateau, ping | 18:10 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1183030] package plasma-widgets-workspace 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to ov... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1183030 (by Fila Kolodny) | 18:38 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1183031] package kdm 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/k... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1183031 (by Fila Kolodny) | 18:38 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1183032] package plasma-desktop 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1183032 (by Fila Kolodny) | 18:38 |
| vHanda | shadeslayer: ping | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | vHanda: hi | 19:14 |
| vHanda | shadeslayer: do you want to implement the epub extractor? | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer | uhh ... I do not have the time sadly :( | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer | too many things to do | 19:21 |
| vHanda | shadeslayer: are you sure? :P | 19:22 |
| vHanda | It'll just take an hour or so | 19:22 |
| shadeslayer | I need to stop signing myself for things for which I have no time :p | 19:22 |
| vHanda | plus you were looking to code something | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer | vHanda: yep, really, I want to finish my previous commitments first | 19:23 |
| vHanda | bah | 19:23 |
| vHanda | how about a mobi parser? :P | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 19:24 |
| shadeslayer | no | 19:24 |
| vHanda | chm? | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | have to start saying no somewhere | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | no time ... I have no flipping time | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | I already feel so bad about saying no | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | vHanda: btw I looked at the opensuse forum post this morning :p | 19:30 |
| shadeslayer | I make it a point to read backlogs in nepomuk-kde ;) | 19:30 |
| vHanda | ... and? | 19:30 |
| shadeslayer | freetype ... who would have thought | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | and ... it doesn't make sense to me | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | might look a bit more when I have some time | 19:31 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: ping | 19:40 |
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| valorie | hmm, no ahoneybun | 21:29 |
| valorie | palasso: of course fix typos! | 21:29 |
| valorie | it's a wiki; that's the point | 21:30 |
| valorie | no need to ask permission , these are your docs | 21:30 |
| valorie | the only time coordination is necessary is to keep from walking over one another's edits; in other words, only one person editing a page at a time | 21:31 |
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| ScottK | debfx: Now that colibri is in Debian, should we just sync their pacakge? | 22:23 |
| Darkwing | Well, I'm going to start work on this years halloween costume. Will take some time. http://www.therpf.com/f24/dr-who-silence-124190/ | 22:49 |
| valorie | omg that will be frightening | 22:51 |
| Darkwing | My girlfriend is going to walk around with tally markings :D | 22:52 |
| valorie | ahahahaha | 22:52 |
| Darkwing | Hey valorie, you busy? | 22:52 |
| valorie | I just watched the bbc america "Best Doctor Who Monsters" ep the other night | 22:53 |
| valorie | and saw River with all the hash marks | 22:53 |
| Darkwing | Oh yeah. Dr Who FTW | 22:53 |
| valorie | scary few eps | 22:53 |
| valorie | nope, whassup? | 22:53 |
| Darkwing | The other one I'm going to put together for cosplay is this. http://crafty-tardis.livejournal.com/152724.html | 22:53 |
| valorie | those were effing scary too | 22:54 |
| valorie | in fact I think I scared my hubby off of the doctor by showing him Blink | 22:55 |
| valorie | lol | 22:55 |
| Darkwing | You get a working mic? | 22:55 |
| valorie | in the mail | 22:55 |
| Darkwing | blink was amazing. | 22:55 |
| Darkwing | Okay sweet. | 22:55 |
| Darkwing | About the docs. :D | 22:55 |
| valorie | might be my favorite evar | 22:55 |
| valorie | now I eye every statue I see though | 22:55 |
| Darkwing | It's a toss up between the angels and the silence. | 22:56 |
| valorie | agreed | 22:56 |
| valorie | primal fears | 22:56 |
| valorie | about the docs: I'm not sure aaron is exactly on board | 22:56 |
| valorie | he keeps wanting more | 22:57 |
| * Darkwing raises an eyebrow | 22:57 | |
| valorie | and I keep wanting LESS | 22:57 |
| Darkwing | Well, let's comprimise then. | 22:57 |
| valorie | and linking to other stuff on the website | 22:57 |
| Darkwing | On the Wiki, we will have more and more if he is willing to maintain. | 22:57 |
| valorie | well, I think maybe another discussion would clarify it all, for all of us | 22:57 |
| Darkwing | That is the biggest thing, maintaining the docs. | 22:57 |
| valorie | agreed | 22:57 |
| Darkwing | The other thing, we are going to be able to have the welcome screen with webslice. | 22:58 |
| valorie | I want each lil subject to be by itself as a separate page | 22:58 |
| valorie | right | 22:58 |
| valorie | we're all together there | 22:58 |
| Darkwing | Unless you can convince the council otherwise | 22:58 |
| Darkwing | :P | 22:58 |
| ScottK | My suggestion is to agree on a minimum for an initial release and then aaron can do more if he wants. | 22:58 |
| valorie | but I think we need to agree on what those basic page(s) should be | 22:58 |
| Darkwing | ScottK: +1 | 22:58 |
| valorie | ScottK: I think we should always ship the minimum | 22:58 |
| Darkwing | My idea is having ALL the documentation online on the wiki. | 22:59 |
| valorie | and have whatever else we want on the wiki | 22:59 |
| Darkwing | ship a horridly minimum amount. | 22:59 |
| valorie | right | 22:59 |
| valorie | helpful, but minimal | 22:59 |
| valorie | people don 't like to read text | 22:59 |
| Darkwing | And, because we wont have the pop-up welcome screen, I'll just recode what we have into docbook for the minimum | 22:59 |
| valorie | they don't even read the slides | 22:59 |
| Darkwing | This will prevent us from having to code a new viewer. | 23:00 |
| valorie | heck, *I* don't even read them, except to admire how nice they look | 23:00 |
| Darkwing | And, we will have a docs and welcome icon in the ~/Desktop folder | 23:00 |
| Darkwing | and not a lot of text. | 23:00 |
| Darkwing | A lot of screenshots. | 23:01 |
| Darkwing | visual is always better. | 23:01 |
| valorie | Darkwing: how about sending a nice email summing up your thoughts to kubuntu-devel list? | 23:01 |
| valorie | agreed | 23:01 |
| Darkwing | That would be too easy. :P | 23:01 |
| Darkwing | Okay, I'll knock that out. | 23:01 |
| valorie | we'll need to keep the screenies small or at least the filesize small | 23:01 |
| valorie | I like big, but this should all be viewable on someone's phone | 23:02 |
| valorie | in case they are hosed and that's the only way they can access | 23:02 |
| valorie | be sure to share photos of you in your costumes! | 23:03 |
| valorie | are you gonna get the teeth for the angel one? | 23:03 |
| valorie | heavy makeup seems like a better idea than masks, though | 23:06 |
| valorie | also it seems like you could use a mop head for the wig | 23:07 |
| valorie | damn, those will be awesome | 23:08 |
| Darkwing | For the angel I'm just going to use molding clay | 23:11 |
| Darkwing | This way it will be more like stone. | 23:11 |
| valorie | molding clay for the hair? | 23:17 |
| Darkwing | For the face. | 23:17 |
| valorie | ah | 23:17 |
| Darkwing | I think for the hair, I'll stiffen a mop head | 23:17 |
| Darkwing | But, it will have to be really really stiff. | 23:17 |
| valorie | well, you can get powdered starch, and mix it really thick | 23:17 |
| valorie | and then paint more on top | 23:18 |
| valorie | even the liquid starch will make it pretty firm | 23:18 |
| Darkwing | Yeah, I was thinking of spray plaster as well. | 23:19 |
| valorie | thinned liquid plaster maybe | 23:19 |
| valorie | although then you'll have cracking | 23:19 |
| valorie | plaster is fun to work with | 23:19 |
| Darkwing | Yup. :D | 23:20 |
| Darkwing | As of right now, we should be abandening the webslice idea. | 23:26 |
| Darkwing | FWIW | 23:26 |
| valorie | why is that? | 23:32 |
| valorie | too glitchy? | 23:32 |
| valorie | I personally hate widgets on the desktop, but that's just me | 23:32 |
| Darkwing | Because, to open a widget with an icon that is a limited about of space is kinda a bad idea. | 23:32 |
| Darkwing | As I'm laying out in my email, the shipped basic docs shouldn't change from release to release unless we change something MAJOR | 23:33 |
| valorie | there is a browser widget too | 23:33 |
| Darkwing | So, keeping it in the KHelpCenter *gags* for now is a better idea. | 23:33 |
| valorie | I hear you | 23:33 |
| Darkwing | It also gives a good looka t where they can find KDE help docs as well. | 23:34 |
| valorie | maybe we can work with apachelogger to get khelpcenter fixed? | 23:34 |
| Darkwing | It's usable. | 23:34 |
| valorie | because I always prefer to do things the KDE Way | 23:34 |
| Darkwing | Yes. | 23:34 |
| valorie | ok, usable | 23:34 |
| valorie | but not cool | 23:34 |
| Darkwing | But, if we have a VERY limited about of stuff that we add to the shipped docs, we wont have to update them every 6 months. | 23:35 |
| valorie | right | 23:35 |
| Darkwing | and with a limited about of stuff, we don't need cool. | 23:35 |
| valorie | well, cool gets people to use the docs | 23:35 |
| Darkwing | We can save cool for the wiki | 23:35 |
| valorie | umm, .... moinmoin | 23:35 |
| valorie | that will never be cool | 23:36 |
| Darkwing | I know. | 23:36 |
| valorie | lol | 23:36 |
| Darkwing | It will change but, we only have so much to work for,. | 23:36 |
| valorie | right | 23:36 |
| valorie | and again, most stuff won't change | 23:36 |
| Darkwing | Right, so, no real reason to change from KHelpCenter | 23:37 |
| valorie | got it | 23:37 |
| valorie | PM? | 23:37 |
| Darkwing | sure. | 23:38 |
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