[03:22] <jono> bkerensa, around?
[06:27] <dholbach> good morning
[07:03] <dholbach> hola dpm
[07:03] <dholbach> qué tal?
[07:03] <dpm> hey dholbach, welcome back!
[07:03] <dpm> bien, bien
[07:03] <dpm> did you have a nice long weekend?
[07:04] <dpm> did you manage to destroy any houses like last time?
[07:04] <dholbach> yes, being out in the nature with nothing around was just beautiful
[07:04] <dpm> nice :)
[07:04] <smartboyhw__> Hey dholbach!
[07:04] <dholbach> I never thought I'd be happy with sitting on the same spot for 2 hours with binoculars watching birds
[07:04] <dholbach> it was meditation-like
[07:04] <smartboyhw__> Meh, I missed the community website vUDS session…
[07:05] <smartboyhw__> dholbach: I don't think I can stay for like 30 minutes…
[07:05] <dholbach> you'd probably be surprised what nature can do to you :)
[07:05] <dholbach> dpm, how are you doing?
[07:06] <smartboyhw__> dholbach: How did the session go?
[07:06] <smartboyhw__> I saw loads of work items…
[07:06] <smartboyhw__> (without me:()
[07:06] <dpm> doing good here, slowly waking up...
[07:07] <dholbach> smartboyhw__, they went rather well - good discussions, everybody was quite focused - I was happy with the outcomes
[07:07] <smartboyhw__> Great…
[07:09] <dholbach> my inbox is a disaster site
[09:45] <dholbach> pleia2, bkerensa, elfy: did you have a bit of time to review the content on http://91.189.93.108/ already? I'll put some work into it today
[11:18] <elfy> dholbach: I'm finding time ;) is someone going through this for grammar/spelling etc - or are we doing that as well?
[11:19] <dholbach> I didn't note down anyone specific for a grammar/spelling check
[11:19] <dholbach> let's just note down all the problems we find (of whatever nature) and fix them
[11:19] <elfy> ok
[11:19] <dholbach> I'm sure people will complain about mistakes and bugs quickly enough once it's online :)
[11:19] <elfy> really ... :D
[11:20] <dholbach> :)
[11:21] <elfy> dholbach: I'm working on the pages that link from the 'top bar' at the moment
[11:21] <smartboyhw> dholbach: Use Launchpad bugs for that?:P
[11:21] <dholbach> smartboyhw, [dholbach] create launchpad project for the site: TODO
[11:21] <dholbach> elfy, great
[11:22] <smartboyhw> dholbach: We should add [dholbach] assign bugs to people who have access (a.k.a dholbach): TODO
[11:22] <smartboyhw> :P
[11:23] <dholbach> I don't know - I'd prefer if we would create a team of editors who then get the bug mail and get on with fixing those bugs on their own
[11:23] <dholbach> I'm not sure I'm the best bug manager :)
[11:23] <smartboyhw> dholbach: Sure:)
[11:23] <elfy> dholbach: it would be useful if there was a temp 'somewhere' that we could use to put what we've found, etc or at least what we're looking at
[11:23] <smartboyhw> Heck, grammar checks, let me run through some.
[11:24] <elfy> dholbach: like an etherpad perhaps
[11:24] <smartboyhw> I lik trellp
[11:24] <smartboyhw> *trello
[11:24] <dholbach> elfy, http://pad.ubuntu.com/aNBBojgxJg
[11:24] <dholbach> I'll document it in the blueprint
[11:25] <smartboyhw> Etherpads are unaccessiable in mobile…
[11:25] <elfy> ok - that makes sense dholbach
[11:26] <elfy> thanks :)
[11:26] <smartboyhw> Grammaar bug #1:
[11:26] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[11:26] <smartboyhw> Damn
[11:28] <smartboyhw> "to make it pleasant read" should have a "a" before "pleasant" under Package maintenance in development page:p
[11:28] <smartboyhw> dholbach: ^
[11:28] <dholbach> smartboyhw, are you on mobile right now? :)
[11:28] <elfy> smartboyhw: trying to follow things in this channel will be nigh on impossible ;)
[11:28] <smartboyhw> dholbach: Unfortunately yes.
[11:28] <dholbach> smartboyhw, all right, will copy over
[11:29] <smartboyhw> And you won't see me starting Monday till 14th June…
[11:29] <smartboyhw> :P
[11:29] <dholbach> gotcha
[11:53] <smartboyhw> dholbach: How come you can be so careless that you can drop a laptop?!
[11:54] <dholbach> smartboyhw, if I only knew :)
[11:55] <smartboyhw> dholbach: Developer page checked but now I needed a shower:P
[11:55] <dholbach> excellent, thanks
[11:55] <elfy> dholbach: this the sort of thing you're after? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5690089/
[11:55] <dholbach> woah
[11:55] <dholbach> great
[11:55] <dholbach> can you paste that into the pad?
[11:56] <elfy> I've followed the top banner links and then followed links within each page - tried to do it in order and logically
[11:56] <elfy> dholbach: yea will do - just wanted to be sure that's the sort of thing you were after :)
[11:56] <dholbach> excellent
[11:57] <elfy> okey doke
[11:59] <elfy> ok - pad up to date with what I've looked at
[11:59] <elfy> obviously another pair of eyes is good too lol
[12:00] <dholbach> great
[12:56] <dpm> JoseeAntonioR, UOW starting in 5 mins?
[13:08] <jcastro> heya balloons
[13:29] <jono> dpm hey
[13:29] <jono> dpm I have FLOSSWeekly which probably won't finish until 9.30am
[13:29] <jono> can we chat then?
[13:29] <dpm> jono, sure
[13:30] <jono> thanks dpm
[13:30] <jono> dpm oh damn
[13:31] <jono> I have a call with Daniel at 9.30
[13:31] <jono> dpm lets chat soon, I am here with Jack, but we can talk
[13:31] <jono> we can do it before my calls begin
[13:31] <jono> dpm you free now ?
[13:31] <dpm> jono, running an Ubuntu Open Week session
[13:32] <jono> dpm np, ping when done
[13:32] <dpm> ok
[13:37] <jcastro> jono: huh weird, did you have juju already installed before you began?
[13:37] <jono> jcastro, np
[13:38] <jono> jcastro, running juju 0.7 it seems
[13:38] <jcastro> hmm, you had to have had it installed bfore
[13:38] <jono> jcastro, np
[13:38] <jcastro> there's no way you can accidentally be on pyjuju following those instructions
[13:38] <jcastro> whew
[13:38] <jcastro> good to know it worked though!
[13:38] <jono> I installed juju-core
[13:38] <jono> yeah, it was installing charm-tools that screwed me
[13:38] <jcastro> yeah but if you had juju installed prior to that
[13:39] <jono> but I managed to get it working
[13:39] <jcastro> it'll install core but not switch you
[13:39] <jono> what will install core?
[13:39] <jcastro> it installed you just need to switch to it
[13:39] <jcastro> is the stuff still up and running or did you tear it down?
[13:41] <jono> jcastro, I tore it down
[13:41] <jono> hang on
[13:41] <jono> I need to switch to what?
[13:41] <jono> Juju go?
[13:41] <jcastro> the go version
[13:41] <jcastro> yeah
[13:41] <jcastro> sudo update-alternatives --set juju /usr/lib/juju-1.10.0/bin/juju
[13:42] <jono> ok done
[13:42] <jono> how do I check the version now?
[13:42] <jcastro> juju help
[13:42] <jono> jono@forge:~$ juju version
[13:42] <jono> 1.10.0-saucy-i386
[13:42] <jono> juju help doesnt tell you
[13:43] <jono> although it should do
[13:43] <jcastro> oh man, he added the version
[13:43] <jcastro> that's newish
[13:43] <jono> also, that is not exposed by help
[13:43]  * jono files bugs
[13:43] <jcastro> yeah
[13:43] <jcastro> also
[13:43] <jono> so 1.10 is the right version I should use?
[13:43] <jcastro> `juju --version`
[13:43] <jono> doesnt work
[13:43] <jcastro> is supposed to work, I can file that one
[13:43] <jcastro> yeah, I mean, in unixland, that's supposed to work
[13:43] <jono> which project do I file gojuju bugs in?
[13:43] <jcastro> juju-core
[13:43] <jono> ok
[13:44] <jono> thanks jcastro
[13:44] <jono> was pretty cool getting it working last night
[13:44] <jono> gonna spend some more time with it today
[13:44] <jcastro> these are the little bugs I want you to find
[13:44] <jcastro> yeah
[13:44] <jcastro> the nice thing is the go version is much faster
[13:44] <jcastro> so not as much waiting
[13:45] <jcastro> jono: ok so the config files from pyjuju and goju are not interchangeable
[13:45] <jcastro> so you need to move .juju/environments.yaml out of the way or remove it
[13:45] <jcastro> and generate a new one with:
[13:46] <jcastro> juju generate-config -w
[13:46] <jcastro> you should then see a nice .juju/environment.yaml with comments and links to documentation and so on
[13:46] <jcastro> and then you can insert in your region, AWS account, and your secret key.
[13:46] <jcastro> in the pregenerated AWS section
[13:47] <jcastro> jono: the bonus here is you get to see the improvements in little things like the comments we put in the config file and stuff
[13:47] <jono> jcastro, np
[13:47] <jcastro> vs. the old way which was, here's a blank file, good luck dude!
[13:47] <jono> cool, thanks jcastro
[13:47] <jcastro> http://www.evilnick.org/juju/config-aws.html is the ref you want
[13:48] <jcastro> it is nice though huh, to see a full wordpress come up just like that.
[13:48] <jono> jcastro, so I am still trying to understand why charm-tools screwed me
[13:48] <jcastro> me too
[13:48] <jono> I will file a bug
[13:48] <jcastro> marcoceppi: awake yet?
[13:48] <jcastro> we can take this to #juju
[13:49] <marcoceppi> and kicking
[13:49] <jono> yup
[14:08] <jcastro> jono: notbadobama.jpg, you already found 2!
[14:08] <jcastro> http://www.frogforum.net/attachments/african-bullfrogs/35148d1342497641-rex-photogenic-today-not-bad-obama.jpg
[14:10] <jono> jcastro, :-)
[14:10] <jono> well, technically 3 :-)
[14:15] <jono> dpm free now?
[14:15] <dpm> jono, sorry, in 15 minutes, on the calendar design call now
[14:15] <jono> dpm np
[14:18] <jcastro> heya dholbach
[14:19] <dholbach> hey jcastro - giving a UOW session right now - I'll get back to you
[14:19] <jcastro> ack
[14:25] <JoseeAntonioR> dpm: thanks for the session, couldn't be here :( (blame teachers!)
[14:28] <dpm> JoseeAntonioR, no worries :)
[14:28] <elfy> dholbach: I've got as far as the Contribute - Translations and am calling it a day today - all updated on http://pad.ubuntu.com/aNBBojgxJg
[14:29] <dholbach> thanks so much elfy! you're a hero!
[14:30] <elfy> lol - you've not seen it yet - or if you have you've not read it all :D
[14:45] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach: wow, you're getting loads of questions
[14:47] <coolbhavi> JoseeAntonioR, thats why he is called the dholbach :-)
[14:47] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[14:48] <smartboyhw_> JoseeAntonioR: You DO know that dholbach is a popular international brand?
[14:48] <JoseeAntonioR> I do, knew it for a couple months
[15:36] <JoseeAntonioR> hey pleia2, I see ubuntulog is logging #ubuntu-women-project instead of #ubuntu-women, is that known?
[15:38] <IdleOne> yes, and intentional
[15:39] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-women is not publicly logged and we don't want it to be
[15:39] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, ok :)
[15:40] <IdleOne> :)
[15:41] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-women is a safe space for people to be able to speak about things.
[16:17] <pleia2> dholbach: the site review is on my list for tonight
[16:56] <dholbach> pleia2, excellent - thanks!
[16:56] <dholbach> pleia2, if you want, you can just add your notes to http://pad.ubuntu.com/aNBBojgxJg and I'll update the site tomorrow!
[16:56] <dholbach> thanks a bunch in advance
[16:56] <pleia2> dholbach: oh perfect, will do
[16:56] <dholbach> rock and roll
[16:56] <dholbach> it's dinner time over here, so see you tomorrow :)
[18:43] <jono> jcastro, hey
[18:43] <jono> jcastro, you have ubuntuonair access?
[18:44] <jono> mhall119, do you have access to it?
[18:45]  * jcastro checks
[18:45] <jcastro> jono: yep I am in, give me your youtube url and which irc channel you want.
[18:46] <jono> jcastro, well, we normally use the ubuntuonair account to start up the session
[18:46] <jono> can you give me the user/pass for the acct?
[18:46] <jcastro> it's openid
[18:47] <jcastro> it's not an account
[18:47] <jcastro> I think we just need to put you in the right team
[18:47] <jcastro> checking
[18:47] <jcastro> you're in the team
[18:47] <jcastro> go to /wp-admin
[18:48] <jcastro> and that should be it
[18:48] <jono> let me check
[18:49] <jono> jcastro, well SSO works for the wordpress site, but not for the G+ account
[18:49] <jcastro> OH!
[18:49] <jono> nm, I will just use my own G+ account
[18:49] <jcastro> I see
[18:49] <jono> thanks, pal!
[18:49] <jcastro> wait
[18:49] <jcastro> that I might have
[18:50] <jcastro> hmm, apparently not
[18:51] <jono> jcastro, now worries
[19:21] <mhall119> jono: the Google+ onair account?
[19:23] <mhall119> jono: I have login credentials for the ubuntuonair G+ account, yes
[21:17] <bkerensa> jono: do you know the link to the UAK BP so I can see what my work items were
[21:18] <jono> bkerensa, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-s-uak-first-release
[21:23] <jcastro> jono: new flash complete!
[21:23] <jcastro> jono: man, the smooth animation on the clock's second hand
[21:23] <jono> jcastro, nice :-)
[21:24] <jcastro> It's mezmerisizng
[21:24] <jono> yeah
[21:34] <jcastro> jono: hah man
[21:34] <jcastro> you know jeremy from linuxquestions
[21:34] <jcastro> shawn mcance is going to put both us on a panel with a mozilla guy on a panel on openhelp-like things ... like say, forums and stackexchange.
[21:35] <jcastro> I responded with "we've had this argument like 50 times, your audience will get an awesome discussion, I promise."
[21:35] <jcastro> lol
[21:35] <jono> jcastro, nice :)
[23:49] <philipballew> chilicuil, Welcome!
[23:51] <chilicuil> philipballew: hi there =)
[23:51] <philipballew> hope all is well chilicuil !
[23:54] <chilicuil> philipballew: it's all great, hope you're having a nice time as well =)
[23:57] <philipballew> chilicuil, I believe I am as well. Just enjoying the afternoon.