[00:21] <mhall119> rsalveti: sergiusens: https://plus.google.com/u/0/111980561516715514914/posts/gRhx9VNzipu
[00:50] <andril> is it true that it will be a release candidate by the end of the month?
[00:59] <mhall119> andril: no
[00:59] <mhall119> andril: the goal is to have something usable enough that those developing and testing it can use it as their daily device OS
[00:59] <mhall119> which is quite different from a release candidate
[01:00] <sergiusens> mhall119: looks interesting
[01:00] <andril> mhall119: that's what i expected - sounds good to me :)
[01:02] <bcurtiswx> i added the touch core apps PPA to my nexus 7 ubuntu touch and installed the coreapps but they don't seem to do anything but bring up a white screen
[01:03] <bcurtiswx> how do I go about running these once installed on my nexus 7 ?
[01:12] <sergiusens> mhall119: side question, can we get icons in standard locations for the icons of the community core apps?
[01:17] <mhall119> sergiusens: we can put them anywhere you want
[01:18] <mhall119> bcurtiswx: what image version are you running?
[01:19] <bcurtiswx> i just did a phablet-flash today
[01:19] <bcurtiswx> mhall119, ^^
[01:19] <mhall119> bcurtiswx: hmmm, I had a similar problem a while back, but it was fixed in an update
[01:20] <mhall119> is it only the coreapps doing this, or all apps?
[01:20] <bcurtiswx> all apps now
[01:20] <mhall119> have you tried rebooting?
[01:20] <bcurtiswx> i've tried reboot in the shell, it rebooted, no change
[01:20] <mhall119> how about apt-get upgrading?
[01:21] <bcurtiswx> yeah i did that
[01:21] <mhall119> IIRC, it was a HUD API change that needed package updates
[01:21] <mhall119> when I had this issue
[01:23] <bcurtiswx> mhall119, are you supposed to run them from command line still, or should it work fine using the display ?
[01:25] <bcurtiswx> mhall119, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5688936/
[01:35] <mhall119> bcurtiswx: they will run from the Dash (though you may have to search for them)
[01:35] <mhall119> I do it all the time on my Nexus 7
[01:35] <bcurtiswx> mhall119, yeah this is weird why they don't run right
[01:35] <mhall119> bcurtiswx: try running one from the command line, it might give an informative error message
[01:36] <bcurtiswx> mhall119, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5688967/
[01:37] <mhall119> hmm, nothing looks wrong...
[02:21] <dle> What is the best cell phone to use for Ubuntu Touch?
[03:57] <Bryan> hi all..
[03:58] <Bryan> can i ask something bout ubuntu touch for phone?
[04:00] <Mirv> mhall119: yes
[04:00] <Mirv> mhall119: for saucy Qt 5.0.2 is available in qt5-proper PPA currently, archive uploads hopefully this week still
[04:01] <mhall119> Mirv: jono was having some dependency version problems earlier
[04:02] <Mirv> mhall119: (ZDmitry was asking) regarding raring, yes SDK PPA also has the packages since our gomobile instructions used to specify only SDK PPA for raring users so it was thought there might be many people who have only that one PPA enabled
[04:05] <Mirv> jono: if your problem was on saucy, apt-add-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper
[04:05] <jono> Mirv, arn't we getting normal archive uploads this week though?
[04:06] <Mirv> jono: yes, that's the plan, I'm still waiting for Saviq (and/or some others) to also 'ack' that it's fine, but I have everything ready for uploads
[04:06] <jono> Mirv, cool, I will just wait until then, thanks :-)
[04:06] <Mirv> using saucy on the device dist-upgrade seems to go fine and everything works with those PPA packages, and all syncs have been done ith Debian
[04:09] <Mirv> the dependency problems come from the complex PPA dependencies we have.. images now only use daily-build-next, not qt5-proper PPA. and d-b-n only uses archives and itself. but users, phablet PPA and core-apps PPA use the qt5-proper as build dependencies, so some packages get newer dependencies earlier than others
[04:10] <Mirv> but that should be all gone with saucy anyhow soon enough
[04:12] <mhall119> Mirv: for reference, Jono was experiencing this installing on his desktop
[04:12] <mhall119> not on a device
[04:13] <Mirv> mhall119: yeah, on the desktop users are instructed to add the PPA:s, even though on saucy they won't be used probably before October once the automatic landing starts to work
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> hi all
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> any url on ubuntu touch security?
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> i found this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> but not sure if it holds ubuntu touch same as desktop?
[06:27] <dholbach> good morning
[08:04] <BezNalogov> Hello
[08:04] <BezNalogov> I'm reading about ubuntu-touch and I wonder if I can install this on my Samsung Galaxy S3? Is this the same device as the Galaxy Nexus?
[08:07] <jaywink> !devices
[08:07] <jaywink> BezNalogov, ^
[08:09] <BezNalogov> Thanks
[08:52] <oSoMoN> didrocks: ping
[08:53] <didrocks> oSoMoN: pong
[08:53] <oSoMoN> didrocks: I’m working on internationalizing the remaining bits of the webbrowser-app (desktop file, automatic pot generation at build time), and I’ve got a MR that I’d appreciate if someone from the distro team could have a look at
[08:54] <didrocks> oSoMoN: oh sure, please send the link, I'll have a look today :)
[08:54] <oSoMoN> didrocks: awesome! here it is: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/i18n-pot-target/+merge/164937
[08:55] <didrocks> oSoMoN: will probably have a look within the day, trying to get dailies working back first (jenkins issue)
[08:55] <oSoMoN> didrocks: sure
[08:56] <oSoMoN> didrocks: note that it’s not using the standard mechanism because at present intltool doesn’t support custom keywords for pot generation, unfortunately, so I need your opinion on my custom solution
[08:56] <didrocks> oSoMoN: ok, I'll tell you :)
[08:56] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[09:08] <ZDmitry> tmoenicke, ping
[09:08] <tmoenicke> ZDmitry: pong
[09:09] <ZDmitry> tmoenicke, does VKB support additional layouts?
[09:09] <tmoenicke> ZDmitry: yes
[09:10] <ZDmitry> tmoenicke, and what we need to create layout? I mean, which format it has?
[09:11] <tmoenicke> ZDmitry: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-extras/maliit-plugins/files/head:/maliit-keyboard/data/languages/
[09:11] <tmoenicke> there is what we have. they are xml files
[09:11] <ZDmitry> tmoenicke, thanks
[09:11] <tmoenicke> yw
[09:11] <Soulflare3> So I have a non-mainstream Android tablet. Is it still possible for me to use Ubuntu Touch?
[09:13] <ZDmitry> tmoenicke, next question. I just noticed that VKB supports orientation changing. But suddenly, height of keyboard rectangle not changed. Is this mean that this fetaure
[09:13] <ZDmitry> "in progress"?
[09:17] <ZDmitry> tmoenicke, so do I need use width of VKB instead of height in landscape mode for my app?
[09:23] <tmoenicke> ZDmitry: no that is a bug and been fixed, should land soon
[09:24] <ZDmitry> tmoenicke, ok
[09:33] <el_silver> hello ... can you tell me something about ubuntu touch & ZTE GRAND X IN aka Orange Santa Barbara ???
[09:34] <ogra_> el_silver, probably the devices wikipage can ...
[09:34] <ogra_> !devices | el_silver
[09:35] <ZDmitry> tmoenicke, and the last one question about extra keys: as I understood from VirtualKeyboardLayout.dtd, currently, VKB supports only modifiers (alt|shift|altshift) and not supports extra keys (such as F1 - F12 keys). Correct?
[09:35] <mayank> hey i wanna join developer group for ubuntu -phone can someone guide me
[09:37] <el_silver> thx ... but Grand X IN not listed ... phone have Intel Atom procesor and I would be happy if they started to work on it  .... you know tell me where to send the proposal ???
[09:46] <mayank> hey i wanna join developer group for ubuntu -phone can someone guide me???
[09:48] <ZDmitry> mayank, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/DevelopmentGuide
[09:49] <mayank> thanks ZDmitry iwill check it now
[09:54] <kalikiana> who do I ask about an error adding an upstream qt bug to a launchpad issue?
[09:54] <kalikiana> dpm or mhall119 any suggestions?
[09:56] <dpm> kalikiana, you can ask in #launchpad or in #ubuntu-desktop, but basically, you use the "Also affects project" link in the bug, which will then allow you to enter the URL of the upstream bug
[10:00] <seb128> dpm, kalikiana: the Qt bugtracker is not supported by launchpad, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/157488
[10:00] <dpm> thanks seb128, good to know. kalikiana, so I guess it will be just a matter of mentioning the bug in a comment or on the bug description
[10:06] <kalikiana> dpm, seb128 alrighty, thanks
[10:08] <ZDmitry> tmoenicke, sorry for annoying. Will VKB support CTRL modifier and FN (F1-F12) keys?
[10:25] <xnox> didrocks: information on how to demangle C++ symbols is added to both debian wiki & daily release (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/FAQ#I.27m_exposing_a_new_C.2B-.2B-_symbols_in_my_library.2C_it_seems_that_some_packaging_changes_are_needed.2BICY- )
[10:25] <xnox> please merge my symbols branches =)
[10:26] <didrocks> xnox: I'll have another review later, but not today! :-) Thanks!
[10:30] <didrocks> sil2100: Mirv: we got the thing workarounded
[10:30] <didrocks> sil2100: Mirv: I'm restarting, without building, all the stacks, little by little
[10:30] <didrocks> (as the stuff is already in the ppa)
[10:31] <sil2100> didrocks: regarding unity, could you rebuild everything? Or maybe wait for https://code.launchpad.net/~fginther/unity/autopilot_hud_button_label_fixes/+merge/164999 and re-run with rebuilding, since those 2 merges didn't land yesterday
[10:31] <sil2100> And without them, the test results will be sucky anyway
[10:31] <sil2100> Same for HUD
[10:31] <didrocks> sil2100: everything or just unity?
[10:32] <didrocks> sil2100: and rebuild HUD?
[10:32] <didrocks> sil2100: or rerun HUD with unity results?
[10:33] <sil2100> didrocks: well, we would need the latest unity in the PPA so that unity and HUD tests would be fixed
[10:33] <didrocks> sil2100: ok, so rebuilding Unity
[10:33] <didrocks> and rerunning the HUD tests after Unity
[10:33] <didrocks> making sense?
[10:33] <didrocks> sil2100: HUD FTBFS on some arch in the ppa
[10:33] <didrocks> sil2100: same for some scopes in unity
[10:34] <didrocks> sil2100: if it's an arch mismatch, do you mind kicking that in manually in the ppa? (the rebuild)
[10:34] <didrocks> sil2100: otherwise the build monitoring will fail
[10:34] <sil2100> didrocks: ok, will do that
[10:35] <didrocks> sil2100: keep me posted once this is fixed and your unity branch is merged
[10:35] <didrocks> sil2100: I'll kick the rebuild
[10:35] <didrocks> doing the touch stuff meanwhile
[10:48] <Mirv> didrocks: ok, let's hope for the best
[10:48] <didrocks> Mirv: I'm crossinger fingers :)
[10:48] <Mirv> prepare+build fine
[10:49] <Mirv> waiting for powerpc
[10:49] <Mirv> then onto autopilots
[10:51] <sil2100> Having so many packages can be a bother sometimes ;p
[10:52] <Laney> ooh, we seem to have automatic screen turning offness \o/
[10:57] <davmor2> sil2100: you think that is a problem you should try the migration of 700 commercial apps from one distro series to another it takes 45minutes to do an apt-get update after :D
[11:00] <didrocks> ok, I've "greenified" jenkins
[11:00] <sil2100> didrocks: I checked the scopes and hud, rebuilded those, they're building now
[11:00] <sil2100> didrocks: unity also failed for powerpc, but I'm not rebuilding that one, since unity will be rebuilt anyway, right?
[11:00] <didrocks> sil2100: great! tell me once you have your branch merged and I'll rebuild Unity
[11:00] <didrocks> sil2100: exactly :)
[11:00] <didrocks> is*
[11:01] <didrocks> Mirv: sil2100: so, everything is reran now, but the unity (and the HUD as we want for unity first) stacks
[11:02] <sil2100> Still waiting for that one merge
[11:03] <Mirv> I'm waiting for sdk build phase to complete
[11:03] <didrocks> ok, taking a break, will be back later, the time that the current tests are running… :)
[11:04] <didrocks> Mirv: hum, it will wait forever, isn't it?
[11:04] <didrocks> 2013-05-22 11:02:47,217 INFO current_package: ubuntu-ui-toolkit 0.1.46daily13.05.22ubuntu.unity.next-0ubuntu1
[11:04] <didrocks> 2013-05-22 11:03:05,483 INFO arch: powerpc, status: building
[11:04] <Mirv> didrocks: possibly. armhf/i386/amd64 published, powerpc building
[11:05] <Mirv> that
[11:05] <didrocks> Mirv: well, it can't build on powerpc, can it?
[11:05] <didrocks> Mirv: as v8 is not available on it
[11:06] <ZDmitry> which packgage from qt5-edgers contains shaders (libqmlshadersplugin)?
[11:06] <didrocks> Mirv: Missing build dependencies: qtdeclarative5-window-plugin
[11:06] <Mirv> didrocks: yes, no it can't
[11:06] <didrocks> Mirv: can you list all the archs for now in debian/control?
[11:06] <didrocks> Mirv: that's linked to a discussion we had yesterday on ubuntu-devel
[11:06] <Mirv> didrocks: I can, yes
[11:06] <didrocks> Mirv: thanks, meanwhile, I'm using cu2d-skip to tell "ignore powerpc for this run"
[11:07] <Mirv> ok
[11:08] <Mirv> ZDmitry: in Qt 5 it should be part of the core Qt Quick support.. ie. just import QtQuick 2.0
[11:08] <Mirv> from qtdeclarative5-qtquick2-plugin
[11:10] <didrocks> sil2100: QA greened! :)
[11:10] <didrocks> sil2100: 3 failures per config, but below the threshold at 3 :)
[11:10] <ZDmitry> Mirv, strange but shaders works fine on desktop and wants work on device.
[11:11] <sil2100> \o/
[11:11] <sil2100> FINALLY
[11:11] <sil2100> HOLY SHIT
[11:11] <sil2100> :D
[11:13] <didrocks> sil2100: well, still failures
[11:13] <didrocks> sil2100: but we ignored them, will be good to get the QA team fixing them (and reproducing them first :p)
[11:15] <ZDmitry> Mirv, fix: shaders don't wants work on device
[11:16] <didrocks> sil2100: did you look at the issues before rebuilding?
[11:16] <ZDmitry> Mirv, is there some difference for qml shaders on device?
[11:16] <didrocks> sil2100: seems libunity7 is really failing (due to a flacky tests)
[11:16] <ogra_> stgraber, no go for me with your tarball on maguro :/
[11:16] <didrocks> sil2100: you should maybe bring pawel into that one :)
[11:17] <sil2100> didrocks: yes, I saw, it's a known issue with libunity on armhf
[11:17] <sil2100> didrocks: we were trying to fix that last week even
[11:18] <ogra_> stgraber, and lxc-console doesnt seem to work
[11:18] <sil2100> didrocks: panda boards are really slow, so sometimes the timeout (even though we increased it) is still not enough ;/
[11:18] <ogra_> so i cant really enter it
[11:18] <didrocks> sil2100: ok, what's the deal then on that one? :)
[11:22] <Mirv> ZDmitry: hmm, there shouldn't be, but I'm not really an expert. it's of course EGL/GLES, but that should be all transparent.
[11:22] <Mirv> loicm: do you know if there's anything specific preventing use of shaders in apps currently?
[11:23] <sil2100> didrocks: I'll poke Paweł about that again ;) Maybe he and Michal might find a better way of fixing it
[11:23] <didrocks> sil2100: ok, so even with rebuilding Unity, the stack will stack red :)
[11:24] <sil2100> didrocks: but it's not happening always ;)
[11:24] <sil2100> didrocks: it's failing only from time to time, we just need to watch and rebuild ;p
[11:24] <loicm> Mirv: no, it should just work
[11:25] <didrocks> sil2100: ok, please rebuild then :)
[11:25] <sil2100> Stupid pandas ;p
[11:26] <sil2100> Rebuilding
[11:26] <Mirv> loicm: ok, thanks
[11:26] <sil2100> btw. my merge is still building
[11:27] <ZDmitry> Mirv, loicm: thanks. Seems problem in something other than plugin.
[11:29] <Mirv> ZDmitry: yeah, I just tested out of interest that http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-shadereffect.html example works on my device
[11:33] <ZDmitry> And what about Circle Menu in the terminal app on device? In this video shaders works (on desktop), but on mine Galaxy Nexus is not works.
[11:34] <ZDmitry> Mirv, forgot link https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QVn0af2_ACQ
[11:35] <ZDmitry> Mirv, so I did something wrong? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-terminal-dev/ubuntu-terminal-app/trunk/view/head:/extraPanel/CircleMenu.qml
[11:49] <Mirv> ZDmitry: I'm not familiar with that one. mhall119 might know about whether the circle menu should be working on device
[11:49] <xomjak> hi
[11:49] <ZDmitry> Mirv, thanks.
[11:49] <xomjak> Please help to deal with porting Ubuntu Touch on Samsung Infuse!
[11:58] <xomjak> Please help to deal with porting Ubuntu Touch on Samsung Infuse!
[12:13] <Kaleo> rsalveti: do you know if we have x86 images of utouch? (thinking maybe people already ran something like that in say VirtualBox)
[12:15] <ogra_> Kaleo, we dont
[12:15] <ogra_> would need an android x86 port
[12:16] <Kaleo> ogra_: it exists right?
[12:16] <ogra_> not as ubuntu touch port, not for CM 10.1
[12:16] <Kaleo> ogra_: ok
[12:16] <ogra_> but yes, theoretically it does
[12:20] <ogra_> rsalveti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5690128/ ... thats what i get trying stgraber 's  lxc on maguro ... sf dies
[12:20] <ogra_> i sadly seem to have no way to even enter the container to strace or anything :(
[12:30] <ogra_> ah
[12:51] <didrocks> Mirv: UTAH failed for sdk, I'm relaunching it FYI
[12:52] <didrocks> Mirv: have you merge the arch fix? what should I rebuild?
[12:52] <didrocks> kenvandine: I'm forcing the publication of the media stack
[12:52] <didrocks> (all tests passed \o/)
[12:52] <didrocks> blocked because of the sdk stack
[12:55] <kenvandine> didrocks, cool, thanks
[12:55]  * ogra_ sighs
[12:55] <didrocks> kenvandine: can you take care of the webapps one? I think you saw it's on manual publishing for packaging changes :
[12:55] <didrocks> :)
[12:55] <didrocks> kenvandine: we had a jenkins issue this morning, that's why I rebuilt everything
[12:55] <kenvandine> i haven't looked yet, but i will
[12:55] <didrocks> thx!
[12:55] <kenvandine> yesterday prepare was breaking for everything
[12:56] <didrocks> kenvandine: yeah, that my "this morning"
[12:56] <kenvandine> trying to file a file named .xml
[12:56] <kenvandine> :-D
[12:56] <kenvandine> cool
[12:56] <kenvandine> i was waiting to ask you about it :)
[12:56] <didrocks> kenvandine: we played a fun game with jibel, ask him :)
[12:56] <kenvandine> glad it's moving along
[12:56] <didrocks> kenvandine: right now, didn't find the root cause, we deployed a workaround
[12:56] <kenvandine> ok
[12:56] <didrocks> (basically an environment variable is set at jenkins startup)
[12:56]  * kenvandine goes to shower first... bbiab
[12:56] <didrocks> kenvandine: ttyl :)
[12:57] <Mirv> didrocks: the merge is still pending, did the proposal. and it was because of a new binary package added while the rest already had armhf i386 amd64 listed
[12:57] <didrocks> Mirv: pending for review or for merging?
[12:57] <Mirv> I'll ping someone to merge it
[12:57] <didrocks> Mirv: I can approve it if needed, as it's a pure and trivial packaging change
[12:57] <Mirv> didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/qmlrunner_archs_amd64i386armhf/+merge/165082
[12:58] <didrocks> Mirv: approved
[12:58] <didrocks> Mirv: I'll relaunch the stack as soon as it's merged
[12:58] <Mirv> didrocks: thanks
[12:58] <didrocks> yw
[13:13] <boiko> Kaleo: hey, do you know of an easy way to access the i18n object from javascript files?
[13:18] <ogra_> sergiusens, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5690128/
[13:19] <sergiusens> ogra_: dumb question, but do you have the egl drivers in /system/lib/(?egl?) ?
[13:20] <ogra_> i shouldm didnt change them
[13:20]  * ogra_ checks
[13:20] <ogra_> oot@android:/ # ls /system/lib/egl/
[13:20] <ogra_> egl.cfg  libGLES_android.so
[13:20] <ogra_> hmm
[13:20] <ogra_> ah, the rest is in /vendor
[13:21] <ogra_> root@android:/ # cat /system/lib/egl/egl.cfg
[13:21] <ogra_> 0 0 POWERVR_SGX540_120
[13:21] <ogra_> looks fine too
[13:21] <sergiusens> what about gralloc? E/SurfaceFlinger(  579): hwcomposer module not found
[13:21] <ogra_> where would that live ?
[13:22] <ogra_> the system partition is originally from our image without any modificatio
[13:22] <ogra_> n
[13:22] <Kaleo> boiko: hmmm
[13:22] <ogra_> same for vendor
[13:22] <Kaleo> boiko: if you js file is not a stateless library
[13:22] <Kaleo> boiko: you should have access to it I think
[13:23] <boiko> Kaleo: it is a stateless library
[13:24] <stgraber> ogra_: I'm around now
[13:24] <sergiusens> ogra_: /system/lib/hw/gralloc.default.so but it's not specific to hw iirc
[13:24] <ogra_> yep, its there
[13:24] <ogra_> stgraber, any idea how i can get a console inside the container ?
[13:25] <ogra_> lxc-console stays quiet
[13:25] <sergiusens> ogra_: I don't see this in your log: D/libEGL  (  127): loaded /vendor/lib/egl/libEGL_POWERVR_SGX540_120.so
[13:25]  * ogra_ ponders to reflash /system from scratch
[13:26] <ogra_> sergiusens, yeah, weird, isnt it
[13:26] <sergiusens> ogra_: I got that way back when I forgot to add the binary drivers
[13:27] <ogra_> well i didnt touch /system at all
[13:27] <Kaleo> zsombi: any idea? 15:13 < boiko> Kaleo: hey, do you know of an easy way to access the i18n object from javascript files?
[13:27] <ogra_> only untarred stgraber's  lxc tarball
[13:27] <ogra_> which only contains /data/ubuntu with modifications
[13:27] <nethfel> Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas how to shut off MTP after flashing to ubuntu touch?  I am trying to issue my device commands but it keeps trying/failing an mtp connection in ubuntu 13.04...
[13:28] <sergiusens> nethfel: if you have the latest bits flashed you shouldn't be seeing those messages
[13:28] <stgraber> ogra_: Android appears to scrap the /dev/ttyX devices that LXC creates and doesn't actually start getty against those anyway so no console for us sadly
[13:28] <boiko> Kaleo: the only solution I could come up with was to pass the i18n object as the argument of the functions I'm using
[13:28] <ogra_> stgraber, hmm thats bad for debugging
[13:28] <stgraber> ogra_: so how far did you get, do you have the LXC container starting and then a bunch of processes showing up in there at least?
[13:29] <ogra_> yeah, all runs fine
[13:29] <ogra_> except surfaceflinger
[13:29] <ogra_> which restarts in a loop
[13:29] <Kaleo> boiko: there is a way
[13:30] <ogra_> let me flash a fresh /system
[13:30] <ogra_> not that i belive that changes anything though
[13:32] <nethfel> Sergiusens: I had initially setup the tablet following the instructions on the wiki back on around the 6th of May.  When I went back to attempt to activate SSH, I connected the tablet to my laptop and 13.04 kept having a hissy fit about unable to access MTP device and it would seem to reset the connection to the device whenever 13.04 complained.
[13:32] <ogra_> i wonder what happens if we re-enable adbd in the container and drop it from ubuntu
[13:33] <nethfel> (I only referenced the date of install incase there have been some updates since then that I might not have yet)
[13:35] <sergiusens> nethfel: you may want to remove the persistent usb settings which may be set to [adb,mtp] to only adb ... It would be better if you flash the latest image though with the latest tools
[13:35] <sergiusens> nethfel: yeah, the mtp removal and adb only thing was from 2 weeks ago
[13:36] <stgraber> ogra_: well, I'd expect we'd get adb access to the android container. I actually meant to try that here as I've now got ssh access to the Ubuntu side so don't need adb anymore
[13:36] <ogra_> yeah
[13:36]  * ogra_ dds a new /system now
[13:38] <Kaleo> "My cat told me that he's working on a new OS too. But it won't be﻿ compatible with touchscreen devices because his OS is going to require the presence of a mouse"
[13:39] <nethfel> Serguisens : I'll definitely re-flash and try again (that first week I got the tablet I kinda went back and forth between android and ubuntu a few times in those first couple days) - now for a stupid question - where might I adjust the persistent USB settings?
[13:39] <ogra_> uh, oh
[13:39] <sergiusens> nethfel: if you mess up, you loose your adb connection
[13:39] <ogra_> sergiusens, i cant just dd the img file ?
[13:39] <ogra_> seems i lost my filesystem on /system now
[13:40] <nethfel> sergiusens: is it a setting on the tablet itself?
[13:40] <sergiusens> nethfel: android property... do adb shell getprop|grep persist
[13:40] <sergiusens> ogra_: how did that happen?
[13:41] <ogra_> sergiusens, i dd'ed the img file to the partition
[13:41] <sergiusens> ogra_: ah, innovator :-P
[13:41] <ogra_> now it tells me it cant find a filesystem
[13:41] <nethfel> sergiusens: hmm, is there a way to do it temporarily so if I do screw it up I can get it back?
[13:42]  * ogra_ flashes via fastboot then
[13:42] <stgraber> stgraber@castiana:~$ adb shell
[13:42] <stgraber> shell@android:/ $
[13:42] <stgraber> ogra_: ^ so yeah, we can run adbd in the Android container
[13:42] <sergiusens> nethfel: yeah, change it in the non persist option
[13:43] <stgraber> ogra_: (make sure the adbd service is in replace/init.rc and comment the rm line in pre-mount.sh, disable the Ubuntu adbd upstart job and reboot)
[13:43] <ogra_> yeah
[13:43] <ogra_> for now i cant get my phone to mount /system automatically anymore
[13:44] <ogra_> weird
[13:44] <nethfel> sergiusens: ok, now you mention this is an android property, but I am able to set it after installing touch?
[13:47] <ogra_> root@android:/ # lxc-start -n android -d
[13:47] <ogra_> lxc-start: no configuration file for '/sbin/init' (may crash the host)
[13:47] <ogra_> hmpf
[13:48] <ogra_> err
[13:48] <ogra_> root@android:/ # ls /var/lib/lxc/
[13:48] <ogra_> root@android:/ #
[13:48] <ogra_> sigh
[13:50] <ogra_> so i can start over completely ... fun
[13:55] <diwic> rsalveti, ping
[14:02] <sergiusens> boiko: so now that all the tp stuff is in... are you going to use it with the phone-app?
[14:03] <ogra_> oha !
[14:03] <stgraber> ogra_: working any better?
[14:04] <ogra_> stgraber, heh, nope, but i think i found the issue
[14:04] <ogra_> the initrd ships a /vendor
[14:04] <ogra_> while the init.rc wants to create a szmlink called /vendor
[14:04] <ogra_> *sym
[14:06] <stgraber> ogra_: ah, are you using the init.rc I put in the tarball instead of a patched copy of yours?
[14:07] <ogra_> nope
[14:07] <ogra_> mkdir -p $LXC_ROOTFS_PATH/data $LXC_ROOTFS_PATH/system $LXC_ROOTFS_PATH/vendor
[14:07] <ogra_> thats my issue i think
[14:07] <ogra_> you create the dir before init.rc can add the symlink
[14:07] <ogra_> in the pre-mount.sh
[14:07] <stgraber> ogra_: oops ;)
[14:08] <ogra_> removed it ... lets see
[14:08] <stgraber> ogra_: ah yeah, I actually fixed that here (needed it to make wlan working)
[14:08] <ogra_> hmm no sf
[14:10] <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5690429/
[14:11] <ogra_> sigh
[14:11] <stgraber> 347 - 368 is the interesting part
[14:11] <stgraber> the bad address doesn't tell us a whole lot though...
[14:11] <boiko> sergiusens: actually it should just work, not sure if the build is picking telepathy-ofono2 or telepathy-ofono (as they both provide telepathy-ofono which is what phone-app requires)
[14:12] <sergiusens> boiko: hmmm... ok... let
[14:12] <sergiusens> 's find out
[14:12] <sergiusens> boiko: the new build would've picked them up, going to check the manifest
[14:13] <stgraber> ogra_: anything in dmesg by any chance?
[14:13] <sergiusens> boiko: it's picking up telepathy-ofono
[14:14] <ogra_> stgraber, lost of pvr errors
[14:14] <boiko> sergiusens: so, telepathy-ofono2 has a Replaces and a Provides: telepathy-ofono, maybe the version needs some tweaking?
[14:14] <boiko> salem_: ^
[14:15] <ogra_> [    8.470062] PVR_K:(Error): BridgedDispatchKM: Driver initialisation not completed yet. [4807, /home/ubuntu/jenkins/workspace/ubuntu-touch-image/kernel/samsung/tuna/drivers/gpu/pvr/bridged_pvr_bridge.c]
[14:16] <sergiusens> boiko: I don't see the dep for telepathy-ofono2 in debian/control for the phone-app
[14:16] <stgraber> ogra_: hmm... and when you were playing with just a chroot, did you manage to get SF to run? (wondering whether we're missing some kind of init bits for your hardware)
[14:16] <ogra_> no
[14:17] <ogra_> sf never ran with the flipped container
[14:17] <salem_> boiko, sergiusens I thought it should pick-up telepathy-ofono2 as we are replacing telepathy-ofono.
[14:17] <stgraber> ogra_: you may want to check: ls /proc/$(lxc-info -n android -p | awk '{print $2}')/root
[14:17] <stgraber> ogra_: that should show you the root of the container as it sees it from inside, that way you can check that everything is mounted as expected
[14:18] <stgraber> ogra_: though if everything else starts, it should... might be worth triple-checking vendor and firmware though
[14:18] <ogra_> yeas, i used it to chroot before
[14:19] <ogra_> its all there
[14:19] <sergiusens> salem_: so telepathy-ofono2 Provides: telepathy-ofono ?
[14:19] <salem_> sergiusens, yes
[14:19] <ogra_> (well, vendor, system and data are)
[14:20] <ogra_> dev looks fine too
[14:20] <ogra_> as does /proc
[14:21] <stgraber> ogra_: btw, your problem looks like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403601 haven't found anything relevant in there yet though
[14:21] <kalikiana> hmmmm qmlplugindump segfaults in u1db arm builds according to https://launchpadlibrarian.net/139782886/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-armhf.u1db-qt_0.1.5bzr90raring0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz I wonder how to investigate that
[14:21] <stgraber> ogra_: apparently that guy was missing some blobs (https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers#maguro)
[14:22] <ogra_> well, if i flip the container back it works fine
[14:22] <stgraber> and the kernel is identical right?
[14:22] <ogra_> its no like my /system is modified in any way
[14:22] <ogra_> kernel yes, initrd indeed not
[14:30] <ogra_> rsalveti, any idea ?
[14:30] <ogra_> rsalveti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5690429/ ...
[14:31] <ogra_> i dont really get why sf tries to start so early ... it didnt do that ever before
[14:38] <mhall119> pmcgowan: do we have a roadmap for making the Launcher customizable?
[14:40] <pmcgowan> mhall119, in what sense?
[14:41] <mhall119> being able to add/remove/reorder the launcher icons
[14:41] <pmcgowan> I expect once unity 8 hits the build
[14:42] <pmcgowan> mhall119, Saviq would know for sure
[14:42] <mhall119> ah, and when will that be?
[14:42] <pmcgowan> any minute ;)
[14:42] <mhall119> so will the daily device images get daily builds of Unity 8?
[14:43] <pmcgowan> right
[14:44] <ogra_> aha !
[14:44] <ogra_> so somehow init.tuna.rc isnt properlz executed on boot
[14:45] <ogra_> i have qml-phone-shell up
[14:45] <ogra_> finallu
[14:45] <ogra_> *finally
[14:46] <ogra_> stgraber, does getprop work for you inside the container ?
[14:49] <stgraber> ogra_: getprop returns a whole bunch of thing, yes
[14:49] <ogra_> ok
[14:49] <ogra_> i dont get why init.tuna.rc doesnt get included and executed here
[14:51] <Saviq> mhall119, of course that's on the roadmap, but is not yet there - will still take some time - mzanetti's on it
[14:53] <stgraber> ogra_: nice, so we have that stuff now running on two devices!
[14:53] <xnox> ogra_: what's the state of adbd? did it compile? I don't see an upload with it.
[14:53] <ogra_> well, not really
[14:53] <ogra_> it runs if i manually fire up the bits from init.tuna.rc
[14:54] <ogra_> but only then
[14:55] <seb128> rsalveti, hey, did you see diwic's email about audio on the touch image (he sent it on the 16th)? can you help to answer some of the question or point to somebody who can? David wants to help on making audio work better on the touch image but needs some help to get started ;-)
[14:55] <seb128> diwic, ^
[14:56] <stgraber> ogra_: so on mako we have "androidboot.hardware=mako" on the kernel cmdline but you don't seem to have that on maguro, could that explain the difference?
[14:56] <rsalveti> diwic: seb128: sorry, saw that yesterday (was in vac last week), will reply after lunch
[14:56] <seb128> rsalveti, thanks!
[14:57]  * rsalveti checking backlog
[14:57] <seb128> rsalveti, I hope you had good holidays (and sorry to add to your ping list, I know how it goes after some days away, everybody tends to jump on you with questions and things to do :)
[14:57] <rsalveti> ogra_: guess it grabs the device name via a kernel cmdline parameter
[14:58] <rsalveti> seb128: yeah, expected but hard to do everything in time :-)
[14:58] <rsalveti> especially after sprint + vac + uds and etc
[14:59] <rsalveti> ogra_: and then includes it while booting the device
[14:59] <rsalveti> but if it worked for mako, it's weird it didn't work for you
[14:59] <rsalveti> import /init.${ro.hardware}.rc
[14:59] <rsalveti> from the original init
[14:59] <rsalveti> ogra_: check that property
[15:00] <stgraber> rsalveti: as I said above, according to abootimg, the maguro image has an empty kernel cmdline so doesn't have androidboot.hardware set
[15:00] <ogra_> rsalveti, well, i changed it to be tuna for a test
[15:00] <ogra_> rsalveti, no change
[15:01] <ogra_> stgraber, empty cmommandlines from boot.img are always replaced by a hardcoded cmdline in the bootloader
[15:01] <rsalveti> hm, weird, let me check my maguro
[15:01] <rsalveti> yeah
[15:01] <ogra_> it has that set
[15:01] <diwic> rsalveti, seb128 ok, thanks!
[15:02] <rsalveti> ogra_: can you read that prop via getprop ro.hardware?
[15:02] <ogra_> rsalveti, will try, needs some tinkering since we cant access the lxc container
[15:08] <stgraber> ogra_: so I think the easiest would be to add a start-once service in init.rc which just calls a shell script, then have that shell script call getprop (or anything else we need) and dump the result somewhere on the fs
[15:08] <ogra_> well
[15:08] <stgraber> ogra_: short of being able to easily run adb, that's your best bet to run something in the container
[15:08] <ogra_> theoretically it should just work
[15:08] <ogra_> we should find out why it doesnt
[15:09] <ogra_> root@android:/ # getprop ro.hardware
[15:09] <ogra_> tuna
[15:09] <ogra_> so the property is there
[15:09] <ogra_> which means the include mechanism of init is screwed somehow
[15:10] <ogra_> stgraber, i wonder if init simply assumes the init.rc files are all in the same dir as the init binary
[15:10] <ogra_> so executing it from /sbin breaks it
[15:10] <stgraber> ogra_: oh, that could be
[15:11] <ogra_> could we hack lxc to use it from /
[15:11] <ogra_> ?
[15:11] <stgraber> ogra_: try: lxc-start -n android -d -- /init
[15:11] <ogra_> ah, good
[15:11]  * ogra_ hacks the upstart job
[15:14] <ogra_> nope, no change
[15:15] <ogra_> i even removed the sbin link from the pre-mount script
[15:15] <ogra_> container still starts fine
[15:16] <sergiusens> rsalveti: ok, manta is now using the saucy ubuntu kernel (after a repo sync ;-) )
[15:16] <rsalveti> sergiusens: awesome
[15:16] <ogra_> yay
[15:22] <mhall119> pmcgowan: is there an API/roadmap/spec for the infographic and how to feed stuff to it?
[15:22] <kgunn> mhall119: at least there is an api
[15:22] <mhall119> kgunn: how about api docs?
[15:22] <kgunn> mhall119: speak to pete-woods & nic-doffay
[15:23] <kgunn> mhall119: oh...you ask too much :)
[15:23] <mhall119> I know
[15:23] <pete-woods> mhall119: that's a good point
[15:24] <pete-woods> I just looked at the rest of the lightdm API docs (there is none)
[15:24] <pete-woods> I wonder what style I should use
[15:25] <pete-woods> and if they'll show up if I add them
[15:25] <pete-woods> is it just the same as they do in Qt that I should copy off?
[15:25] <pete-woods> mhall119: also the input API for the infographic does not exist yet
[15:26] <pete-woods> only the output API you can access from lightdm
[15:26] <kgunn> pete-woods: thanks...i learned something :)
[15:27] <sergiusens> salem_: boiko so I think it's because you changed the source package name, so it's not replacing the older telepathy-ofono
[15:27] <sergiusens> salem_: boiko and it correlates with the disadvantages list in method 1 here: http://wiki.debian.org/Renaming_a_Package
[15:29] <stgraber> ogra_: so any luck getting a getprop output from your container?
[15:29] <ogra_> stgraber, sure, if i run adb inside
[15:30] <salem_> sergiusens, so, how can we solve this? make phone-app depend on telepathy-ofono2 explicitly ?
[15:31] <ogra_> stgraber, trying without replacinf initr.rc now
[15:31] <sergiusens> salem_: if you still don't want to get rid of telepathy-ofono, yes
[15:32] <salem_> boiko, what do you think? ^
[15:32] <ogra_> hmm, no change
[15:34] <user82> http://www.fairphone.com/ ubuntu touch should support fairphone once it's out. ;)
[15:34] <raven> hello
[15:34] <ogra_> root@android:/ # reboot
[15:34] <ogra_> reboot: Operation not permitted
[15:34] <boiko> salem_: on the phone, be with you in a minute
[15:34] <raven> ogra!
[15:34] <ogra_> hmm, now it gets intresting
[15:35] <raven> ive been messing with my phone for like a week streight now, and ive finally fixed it, i found an image i can flash any time to restore it to stuck
[15:35] <raven> im installing ubuntu touch now and its working this time, althought it seems like its stalled at deploying ubuntu touch..? or does it just taake a long time?
[15:35] <sergiusens> rsalveti: hey, can you try the camera-app on manta with the ubuntu kernel?
[15:36] <user82> ogra_, is there a way to kill all phone data incl the virtual sdcard in the bootloader?
[15:36] <stgraber> ogra_: it's not impossible that LXC or Android dropped cap_sys_reboot, IIRC that depends on the kernel version (some kernels try to reboot the whole device when you do that, in such case LXC prevents it by dropping the capability)
[15:36] <ogra_> raven, its a 500M file
[15:36] <raven> OMG
[15:37] <raven> it worked!
[15:37] <ogra_> raven, takes quite some time
[15:37] <sergiusens> user82: fastboot -w
[15:37] <raven> err
[15:37] <ogra_> user82, well, if you can use fastboot you can use fastboot erase userdata etc
[15:37] <raven> its on the um
[15:37] <raven> main screen i think
[15:37] <user82> ah ok. but not on the phone itself?
[15:37] <ogra_> stgraber, well, it worked before
[15:37] <raven> itsays 14 twets recieved and the time
[15:37] <raven> but i cant do anything?
[15:37] <ogra_> user82, only from recovery i think
[15:38] <user82> okay thanks
[15:38] <stgraber> ogra_: ah, so maybe Android dropped the capability then
[15:38] <raven> nvm.. scroll down side lol
[15:38] <ogra_> raven, swipe from the right
[15:38] <boiko> salem_: sergiusens: I think it is fine to replace the dependency on phone-app
[15:38] <user82> want to do that once ubuntu images are ready...lots of garbage left
[15:38] <rsalveti> sergiusens: what is the issue?
[15:38] <ogra_> stgraber, yeah, which is weird
[15:38] <sergiusens> rsalveti: not sure my charge isn't enought... but I get a nice reboot :-P
[15:39] <ogra_> stgraber, i suspect that comes from a popwerty setting in a sourced init.rc file as well
[15:39] <ogra_> property
[15:39] <rsalveti> sergiusens: weird, will give it a shot
[15:40] <sergiusens> thanks
[15:40] <sergiusens> boiko: can't we just replace telephony-ofono with the new one? Or any reason to keep it?
[15:40] <raven> it seems to have given me someoone elses infor lol i guess whoever made the rom
[15:40] <raven> how do i change settings
[15:41] <ogra_> root@localhost:/# touch foo
[15:41] <ogra_> touch: cannot touch ‘foo’: Read-only file system
[15:41] <ogra_> stgraber, i guess its screwed up now ... remount-ro ... etc
[15:41] <stgraber> ogra_: is that the Ubuntu rootfs being read-only?
[15:42] <ogra_> stgraber, thats /data being readonly
[15:43] <ogra_> 1|root@android:/ # getprop |grep reboot
[15:43] <ogra_> 1|root@android:/ #
[15:43] <ogra_> and there is no property for rebooting
[15:43] <user82> will ubuntu use android 4.3 kernel+surfaceflinger when released?
[15:43]  * ogra_ doesnt get whats going on
[15:43] <ogra_> user82, no, it will use Mir
[15:43] <user82> starting when ogra_ do you happen to know?
[15:43] <ogra_> proably a 4.3 kernel and HAL though
[15:44] <user82> i know it is the longterm gual
[15:44] <user82> *goal
[15:44] <mhall119> gah, build 130 and still no HUD
[15:44] <raven> how do i change settings.. i have 14 tweets and i dont even have twitter..
[15:44] <ogra_> with the release
[15:44] <ogra_> raven, see the release notes wikipage from the channel topic
[15:44] <sergiusens> raven: that's a mock
[15:44] <ogra_> it has a section how to get rid of demo data
[15:45] <rsalveti> sergiusens: indeed, big crash with manta
[15:45] <rsalveti> weird, something else changed
[15:46] <raven> a mock?
[15:46] <ogra_> a demo
[15:46] <raven> ohhh :(
[15:46] <ogra_> not real data
[15:46] <raven> so its not the full OS?
[15:47] <mhall119> it is
[15:47] <mhall119> it just has a lot of mock data and mock apps that are used to show off features
[15:47] <mhall119> for example, a clean install without mock Contacts wouldn't show you how the Contacts lens works
[15:47] <raven> how do you call?
[15:47] <mhall119> there's a dialer app
[15:48] <mhall119> which works on the Nexus 4 and Galaxy Nexus, as far as I know
[15:48] <raven> im in the app but the big orange call button wont work
[15:49] <mhall119> what device?
[15:49] <ogra_> raven, i dont think that works on the SGS2 yet, read the xda thread ... it should list what works
[15:49] <raven> galaxy s2
[15:49] <raven> :( i want it to work so bad
[15:50] <raven> okay last question i promase
[15:50] <ogra_> well, ask on the xda forums
[15:50] <ogra_> they maintain the android side
[15:50] <raven> um
[15:50] <rsalveti> sergiusens: E/        (  671): Failed to open file '/system/media/audio/ui/VideoRecord.ogg'. (No such file or directory)
[15:50] <ogra_> which is responsible for that bit
[15:50] <rsalveti> E/MediaPlayer(  671): error (1, -2147483648)
[15:51] <raven> theres a firmware to change the galaxy s2 into the galaxy nexus firmware?
[15:51] <rsalveti> sergiusens: it might be related with the new video record feature that landed
[15:51] <raven> would that work?
[15:51] <ogra_> no idea
[15:51] <raven> if i installed the galaxy nexus firmware then the ubuntu touch for nexus
[15:51] <ogra_> rsalveti, do you have any idea if androids init has any debug options
[15:51] <raven> okay well ill try it
[15:51] <bobweaver> how to make a GridView and have property alias in it ?
[15:52] <ogra_> so i can find why it doesnt source the additional init/rc files
[15:52] <rsalveti> ogra_: no, I used to debug it by change the code, enabling verbose debug output, and checking with logcat
[15:52] <ogra_> hmm
[15:52] <raven> is there a settings option for ubuntu touch btw? i cant find any settings
[15:52] <bobweaver> example:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5690829/
[15:52] <user82> is mir already included? or when is the plan to include it
[15:53]  * rsalveti brb, lunch
[15:53] <bobweaver> like     property alias fanartBackground: backey.color so that I can call that in other files ?
[15:53] <bobweaver> says that it is a invalid alias that it can not find backey but it is right there in the gridview
[15:53] <ogra_> raven, only what you can get from the panel pulldowns atm
[15:53] <ogra_> there is work going on to create a settings panel
[15:54] <ogra_> user82, it will be included soon
[15:54] <user82> allright ogra_. ubuntu 13.10 phone or before?
[15:54] <sergiusens> rsalveti: let me try a quick test copy
[15:54] <ogra_> user82, surely before since we need to make everything work with it
[15:55] <raven> if this works im a genious
[15:56] <raven> caus eyou can flash most samsung devices to galaxy nexus firmware
[15:57] <ogra_> i highly doubt that
[15:57] <ogra_> since they are completely different hardware
[15:59] <user82> has someone here bought a nexus 4 slimport hdmi adapter? i hardly find any except one overpriced model
[15:59] <raven> hm?
[15:59] <raven> we'll see :P my simple mind is having a proud moment... dont correct me yet
[16:15] <bobweaver> user82,  I ordered one and it got here and does not work
[16:15] <bobweaver> nor does it fit
[16:16] <bobweaver> fits my n7 but does not work
[16:16] <user82> great success bobweaver
[16:16] <ogra_> i dont think the N7 has support for it
[16:16] <ogra_> HW wise
[16:16] <bobweaver> correct ogra_
[16:17] <user82> thinking about this one http://www.aliexpress.com/item/air-play-Phone-Dongle-Mini-pc-Android-player-Cotex-A8-dual-core-DDR3-128M-Nand-DLNA/917119936.html
[16:17] <bobweaver> I know that there is the one for the gnexus
[16:18] <bobweaver> I would not buy it but that is just me eating sour grapes
[16:18] <user82> does ubuntu touch support miracast for the desktop experience?
[16:19] <user82> found one that is way better..but it seems like it can convert miracast->hdmi and has android 4.2 itself with a decent cpu
[16:21] <bobweaver> user82,  how much do you think the n5 is going to cost in oct or whenever they get it to market ?
[16:21] <user82> i would guess a little more than n4. like 399?
[16:21] <user82> with 16gb
[16:22] <bobweaver> I just paid a lot more then that for my n4 16
[16:22] <bobweaver> I got ripped of but did not have to wait for shipping
[16:23] <bobweaver> $537 (t-mobile 70 usd/M unlimited everything )
[16:23] <user82> for a n5? already out?
[16:23] <bobweaver> so 537 - (70 - 8%tax)
[16:23] <bobweaver> no the n4
[16:24] <user82> oh n4 sorry..did not understand the text first time
[16:24] <user82> nothing else available in your country?
[16:24] <user82> but with network it sounds ok
[16:24] <bobweaver> I have rooted it and what not just need to go buy more sim cards
[16:25] <user82> i ordered it from google directly
[16:25] <bobweaver> t-mobile is the only store in my City that sells the n4
[16:25] <user82> without contract
[16:26] <bobweaver> it was that or go to crazy stolen cell phone stores
[16:27] <user82> those do not exist here. does google not sell in your country?
[16:27] <bobweaver> ahh yeah but the wait would have killed me
[16:28] <user82> i ordered on a thursday, which was a holiday, and it arrived on saturday that week
[16:28] <bobweaver> nice
[16:28] <user82> but it was in february when they had fresh batches
[16:28] <Uto> Hi there
[16:29] <Uto> any body can help me please?
[16:29] <bobweaver> yeah I walked into the store and walked out with one and had the boot loader and it rooted by the time I got home ( computer was in car) security stoped to ask what we where doing. I told him that I did not have a pringles can so leave me alone(in a nut shell ).
[16:30] <bobweaver> Uto,  maybe
[16:30] <Uto> I'm trying to port ubuntu on desire Z
[16:30] <bobweaver> !ask
[16:30] <Uto> but i got this in logcat
[16:30] <user82> http://live.twit.tv/
[16:30] <user82> live bacon of ubuntu touch
[16:30] <Uto> I/ServiceManager( 1466): service 'SurfaceFlinger' died
[16:30] <raven> if this works i deserve a popsicle
[16:31] <Uto> I've read somewhere it's a ram size problem? right?
[16:32] <bobweaver> IDK myself Uto  but I am sure that someone will.
[16:32] <tvoss> Uto, SurfaceFlinger is the compositor, can you paste a little more output of logcat?
[16:33] <Uto> i'm doing a pastbin atm
[16:33] <josito> I have a QUESTION: How can install apps on my N4 with ubuntu touch ?
[16:33] <bobweaver> josito,  you can ssh in and install via apt get
[16:34] <bobweaver> josito,  make sure that you enable the right ppa's
[16:34] <josito> thanks bobweaver for answers
[16:34] <Uto> http://pastebin.com/uDp8utUn
[16:34] <bobweaver> or  adb push <app> then adb shell and compile/build
[16:35] <Uto> ok bob thx
[16:36] <bobweaver> Uto,  opengles is supported on that device ?
[16:36] <Uto> i don't think...it's my old device...
[16:37] <Uto> bobweaver, yes i've just search
[16:38] <Uto> it's compatible
[16:38] <Uto> *supported
[16:38] <bobweaver> Uto,  that is logcat of  logcat SurfaceFlinger:V *:E   in paste ?
[16:39] <Uto> it's the entire logcat
[16:40] <bobweaver> where is mount point and how much ram ?
[16:42] <Uto> # cat /proc/emmc #dev:        size     erasesize name #mmcblk0p17: 00040000 00000200 "misc" #mmcblk0p21: 0087f400 00000200 "recovery" #mmcblk0p22: 00400000 00000200 "boot" #mmcblk0p25: 22dffe00 00000200 "system" #mmcblk0p27: 12bffe00 00000200 "cache" #mmcblk0p26: 496ffe00 00000200 "userdata" #mmcblk0p28: 014bfe00 00000200 "devlog" #mmcblk0p29: 00040000 00000200 "pdata"  TARGET_USERIMAGES_USE_EXT4 := true BOARD_SYSTEMIMAGE_PARTITION_S
[16:42] <Uto> http://pastebin.com/pwVEumYr
[16:42] <Uto> sorry
[16:42] <Uto> and ram IDK I wish to know how to add ram
[16:46] <Uto> bobweaver,  any ideas?
[16:47] <bobweaver> nope but I am sure that someone will have a idea. I was googling the issue and it looks like others are having the same issue
[16:47] <Uto> yeah I've somethings too but I didn't find the way ^^
[16:48] <Uto> the screen looklike a stromboscope :)
[16:49] <bobweaver> lol, yeah Uto  I would say lurk around these parts and maybe post ma thread on xda if you have not already
[16:49] <bobweaver> s|ma|a
[16:50] <ogra_> or try the ubuntu-phone mailing list
[16:50] <Uto> i didn't post yet I try here first...
[16:50] <ogra_> thats where most discussions around porting and app development for the phone take place
[16:53] <Uto> ok thank ogra_
[16:56]  * ogra_ glares at syslog
[16:56] <ogra_> May 22 16:55:43 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [    7.142211] init: /init.tuna.rc: 139: ignored duplicate definition of service 'pvrsrvctl'
[16:57] <ogra_> so copying the service into init.rc gets me this message
[16:57] <ogra_> which kind of indicates it actually includes init.tuna.rc
[16:57] <ogra_> how weird is that
[17:00] <stgraber> ogra_: so it includes it, then ignores it? :)
[17:00] <ogra_> well, it ignores the entry because i copied the definition into init.rc
[17:00] <ogra_> but it obviously does the include
[17:01] <ogra_> so it must be something else
[17:22] <Jester86> hey all
[17:23] <Jester86> Anyone here using a Droid 4?
[17:23] <Jester86> Mine just arrived at home.. may give it a try tonight after work
[17:24] <sergiusens> rsalveti: well, the crash is not related to /system/media/audio/ui/VideoRecord.ogg
[17:24] <sergiusens> rsalveti: as the camera also works fine on maguro
[17:24] <rsalveti> sergiusens: I know, trying to track that down, as I remember it worked when I tested here
[17:24] <rsalveti> but it was with an older image
[17:26] <Jester86> Pat McGowan?
[17:26] <Jester86> Grandma?
[17:26] <Gradma> yeah ?
[17:26] <Gradma> :)
[17:27] <Jester86> you mispelled it
[17:27] <bobweaver> what else is new
[17:27] <Jester86> haha
[17:27] <Jester86> note that I misspelled misspelled also lol
[17:28] <Jester86> I think I'm giving Ubuntu Touch a shot on my phone tonight
[17:40] <sergiusens> rsalveti: so you think it's the new qtvidenode?
[17:40] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I'm going to reflash without the kernel and see what happens
[17:40] <rsalveti> sergiusens: not sure yet, doing a clean build here to test from scratch
[17:41] <rsalveti> it seems to be related with the new kernel as well, but I remember I tested it before
[17:41] <rsalveti> might be wrong as well, but I'm almost sure I tested it
[17:43] <ChickenCutlass> ogra_, one thing I also thought of is we need to add support for "charging" mode in our initrd.  I think it is an extra cmdline arg that gets past.
[17:43] <ogra_> kernel cmdline ?
[17:44] <rsalveti> ChickenCutlass: is it booting directly when you have it turned off and plug the usb cable?
[17:44] <ChickenCutlass> rsalveti, yes
[17:44] <ChickenCutlass> ogra_, yes
[17:44] <rsalveti> then yeah, it's probably done in the initrd itself
[17:45] <ogra_> ChickenCutlass, at least on maguro thats tricky, the cmdline is hardcoded in the bootloader
[17:45] <ogra_> i have to check if copz pasting it into the boot.img will double it up
[17:45] <ChickenCutlass> ogra_, right - so we just need a conditional in our init in the initrd.
[17:45] <dobey> will nepomuk/tracker or something be available on the touch builds for apps to use?
[17:45] <sergiusens> rsalveti: reflasing, no issues with camera
[17:45] <ChickenCutlass> ogra_, to check for it
[17:45] <ogra_> if that overrides the hardcoded one we're good
[17:45] <rsalveti> sergiusens: same image with older kernel?
[17:46] <sergiusens> rsalveti: well same ubuntu side
[17:46] <rsalveti> right
[17:46] <sergiusens> rsalveti: going to boot with the new boot.img and see what ahhapens
[17:46] <ogra_> ChickenCutlass, oh, you just want to check its existence ? i thought you wanted to set it somehow
[17:46] <ogra_> ChickenCutlass, thats trivial
[17:46] <ChickenCutlass> ogra_, right just check.  If you look at the android init code -- the logic is in there.
[17:47] <ogra_> right, well, forst of all i need to get android to start properly without me having to manually hack around :)
[17:47] <ChickenCutlass> sure
[17:47] <rsalveti> we'd need a similar logic, and also have some sort of animation
[17:47] <ogra_> but noted the charging stuff on my TODO
[17:47] <rsalveti> ChickenCutlass: probably need to ping design as well
[17:47] <ChickenCutlass> ogra_, I just wanted to mention it before I forgot :)
[17:48] <ogra_> yeah :)
[17:48] <ogra_> my whiteboard on the wall has it now :)
[17:49] <Jester86> did she give you the nuggets
[17:49] <sergiusens> rsalveti: it's the kernel
[17:50] <rsalveti> sergiusens: right, I'm waiting the build to finish here to better debug the issue
[17:50] <bobweaver> Gezz I wish that the ubuntu for android code was out just founf a atrix 2 for 70 usd
[17:51]  * ogra_ copies "/vendor/bin/pvrsrvctl --start --no-module" into rc.local in desparation
[17:51] <ogra_> ... and notes that it doesnt execute there either
[17:51] <ogra_> WTF
[17:52] <ogra_> it works flawless  if i run it via adb
[17:52] <ChickenCutlass> ogra_, must be something in the env
[17:52] <ogra_> well
[17:53] <ogra_> the env is android ... if init.rc sets it right without the flip, why would it be different now
[17:53] <ogra_> all the exports are hardcoded in init.rc
[17:54] <ogra_> and everything else runs just fine ... all services are up, all permission changes happened etc
[17:55] <ChickenCutlass> odd
[17:55] <ChickenCutlass> obviously somethng is different
[17:55] <ogra_> the bad thing is that we cant access the container at all
[17:55] <rsalveti> why not?
[17:55] <ogra_> well, we can but i have to rip out adbd and re-enable it to then have me end up with adb inside the container
[17:55] <ogra_> rsalveti, lxc-console doesnt work
[17:56] <rsalveti> oh, ok
[17:56] <ogra_> we dont have ttys we dont have getty
[17:56] <rsalveti> you'd need something similar as uchroot
[17:56] <rsalveti> which is basically a chroot with some special calls
[17:56] <ogra_> well, lxc ships that
[17:56] <rsalveti> the console needs tty
[17:56] <ogra_> lxc-console is pretty much that
[17:56] <rsalveti> chroot doesn't
[17:56] <ogra_> right
[17:57] <ogra_> but a chroot will not get me inside the container
[17:57] <ogra_> it will just change my root
[17:57] <ogra_> i.e. getprop wont work
[17:57] <rsalveti> right, what I'm saying is that there is a way to get that to work
[17:57] <ogra_> i cant really talk to init
[17:57] <rsalveti> via chroot, but you'd need to add that support
[17:57] <ogra_> hmm, k
[17:57] <rsalveti> don't you have wifi?
[17:57] <ogra_> i'll take a deeper look at uchroot
[17:57] <ogra_> nope
[17:58] <rsalveti> wonder if you could use usb net or similar
[17:58] <rsalveti> then you could even use adb over ip
[17:58] <rsalveti> and use adb to get inside the container
[17:58] <ogra_> root@android:/ # iwconfig wlan0
[17:58] <ogra_> wlan0     no wireless extensions.
[17:58] <sergiusens> ogra_: is there no net just beacuas of nm? then apt-get install network-manager=version_in_ppa
[17:59] <ogra_> seems the wpa=supplicant bits arent executed either
[17:59] <sergiusens> oh
[17:59] <rsalveti> usb net might be easier
[17:59] <ogra_> rsalveti, i cant run two adbds
[18:00] <ogra_> i'm either in ubuntu or in android ... and there is always a reboot inbetween
[18:00] <rsalveti> use usb net to have ethernet access in ubuntu, then start adb via ethernet
[18:00] <ogra_> hmm
[18:01] <ogra_> at least that got me the info that wpa-supplicant isnt run ... while it should
[18:01] <ogra_> so there are more services not started
[18:01]  * ogra_ wonders wyh
[18:01] <ogra_> why tooo
[18:06] <Uto> bobweaver, still there?
[18:06] <bobweaver> :)
[18:06] <bobweaver> not sure that I can help though
[18:07] <Uto> I hope
[18:07] <Uto> I've read again my logcat
[18:07] <Uto> and i found this : I/SurfaceFlinger( 1608): version   : OpenGL ES-CM 1.1 V@6.0 AU@
[18:07] <Uto> But ubuntu need Opengles 2.0
[18:07] <Uto> right?
[18:09] <bobweaver> no clue
[18:09] <bobweaver> sorry
[18:10] <Uto> no pb...
[18:10] <Uto> anyone knows?
[18:11] <bobweaver> Uto,  I am mainly just a qt dev and I am not that good at that either
[18:11] <Uto> like me ^^
[18:11] <Uto> ;)
[18:13] <Uto> OpenGL ES2.0 HAL and drivers
[18:13] <ogra_> [   53.863616] init: no such service 'bootanim'
[18:13] <ogra_> hmm
[18:14] <ogra_> i wonder if thats related to sf not starting
[18:14] <ChickenCutlass> ogra_, that's ok
[18:14] <ogra_> k
[18:14] <ChickenCutlass> ogra_, we don't ship bootanim
[18:14] <ogra_> yeah, and my brain is slowly getting off track
[18:14] <ogra_> indeed
[18:14] <ogra_> it doesnt affect netive booting ... why would it affect container boots
[18:17] <sergiusens> ogra_: who's calling bootanim? are you using our init.rc or did you grab the vanilla untainted ones?
[18:17] <ogra_> sergiusens, i ectract the initrd.img
[18:17] <ogra_> *ex
[18:18] <ogra_> and then put an init.rc into that thats slightly modified before firing up the boot
[18:18] <ogra_> (dropping the uchroot stuff)
[18:21] <ogra_> sergiusens, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5691251/  is the script ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/5691255/is the init.rc
[18:22] <ogra_> that happens before the lxc container gets started in $LXC_ROOTFS_PATH
[18:23] <ogra_> anyway, i think i'll give up for today
[18:25]  * sergiusens changes location
[18:33] <Uto> bobweaver, I did it!!!
[18:34] <Uto> it was what i said about opengles
[18:34] <Uto> :)
[18:35] <bobweaver> W()()T W()()T !!!
[18:36] <Uto> some one can read this please http://pastebin.com/SAWVDFR4
[18:36] <bobweaver> Awesome Uto
[18:36] <bobweaver> Uto,  what is this ?   couldn't load audio hw module audio.a2dp (No such file or directory
[18:36] <Uto> yeah it's what i read... maybe a driver problem
[18:37] <bobweaver> what is  audio.a2dp and howcome it is not there or in its correct place ?
[18:37] <Uto> i'll search again...
[18:49] <balloons> mhall119, did you have success running ap tests on the deivce?
[18:52] <sergiusens> mzanetti: you around?
[18:58] <Elouin> Is there an image wich would work on an huawei honour?
[19:08] <pmcgowan> !devices | Elouin
[19:12] <Elouin> ubot5: i know... but maybe there is one unofficial...
[19:13] <Elouin> a bot :O
[19:20] <mhall119> balloons: haven't gotten that far yet, phablet-flashed again this morning
[19:20] <balloons> kk
[19:30] <marcoceppi> I think the only thing holding me back from switching is the ability to create hotspots/tether. Is this on anyone's radar for the phone for the cycle?
[19:34] <ZDmitry> mhall119, shaders in the terminal's Circle Menu has strange behaviour: on PC it shows when clicked buttons on outer circle, while on device nothing happens.
[19:35] <ZDmitry> mhall119, do I need some changes in source code to avoid this?
[19:39] <mhall119> ZDmitry: I'm not quite sure what you mean
[19:39] <mhall119> they looked the same to me on my desktop and N7
[19:41] <ZDmitry> mhall119, I mean is there some difference in qml shaders for desktop and for device? I can't find reason of different behaviour on desktop and on device.
[19:41] <mhall119> it's possible, I suppose
[19:58] <mhall119> pmcgowan: is there a reason for now having all of the developer mode packages installed by default?
[19:59] <mhall119> it seems to take longer to install them all than the phablet-flash itself
[19:59] <pmcgowan> mhall119, it makes the image quite large
[19:59] <pmcgowan> and most folks not using them
[20:00] <mhall119> do we have any way of knowing whether most folks are not using them?
[20:01] <pmcgowan> the ones Im thinking of are needed for native compilation, we could find out who is doing that
[20:01] <mhall119> it's not a big deal, really
[20:01] <pmcgowan> worth asking
[20:01] <mhall119> just wondering if it's the right way
[20:02] <pmcgowan> mhall119, we could concivably come up with a faster way to load them
[20:23] <rsalveti> mhall119: which are the developer mode packages?
[20:24] <cc> hy!
[20:34] <mhall119> rsalveti: I'm not sure, I click "Enabled Developer Mode" in QtCreator, and it has to download and install a bunch of stuff
[20:34] <rsalveti> mhall119: oh, right
[20:34] <rsalveti> have no idea either
[20:34] <mhall119> kenvandine: qml-box2d is fantastic!
[20:40] <kenvandine> mhall119, :-D
[20:44] <mhall119> kenvandine: just ran some of the demos on my Nexus 7, uploading videos to youtube now
[20:44] <kenvandine> mhall119, impressive isn't it?
[20:44] <kenvandine> i am trying to think of an idea for a game to write that uses it
[20:45] <user82> mhall119, do you know when surfaceflinger->mir will happen?
[20:47] <mhall119> user82: no, other than "when it's ready"
[20:47] <user82> ok
[21:11] <greyback> mhall119: agreed on qml-box2d.
[21:11] <greyback> Am also playing with it in my spare time
[21:31] <sergiusens> mhall119: rsalveti why is the sdk installing dev packages on the device?
[21:33] <Kaleo> sergiusens: there is a silly dependency
[21:33] <Kaleo> sergiusens: qtchooser on qtbase5-dev or something
[21:33] <Kaleo> sergiusens: we are in the process of fixing it
[21:35] <sergiusens> Kaleo: oh... ok, yeah, but we already have those installed in the image http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.manifest
[21:35] <sergiusens> Kaleo: I guess fixing that dep, would get rid of all the -dev in the builds
[21:35] <Kaleo> sergiusens: yes
[21:36] <sergiusens> Kaleo: is Mirv working on it?
[21:37] <Kaleo> sergiusens: yes
[21:37] <Kaleo> sergiusens: it was in 2 parts he did the first part now he is doing the second but there is no bug report for it
[21:37] <Kaleo> sergiusens: let's see
[21:37] <kgunn> hey, i'm trying to build from scratch following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Building
[21:38] <kgunn> followed everything except bin blobs i got from rsalveti secret location
[21:38] <kgunn> and no matter what i seem to get this on boot
[21:38] <sergiusens> kgunn: on boot?
[21:38] <kgunn> F/libc    (  126): Fatal signal 11 (SIGSEGV) at 0xdeadbaad (code=1), thread 178 (SurfaceFlinger)
[21:39] <kgunn> like hwcomposer not found
[21:39] <sergiusens> kgunn: so what device?
[21:39] <kgunn> nexus7
[21:39] <sergiusens> kgunn: do you have the vendor/nvidia ?
[21:40] <kgunn> on my laptop under the dir where i'm building i have all those bins
[21:41] <kgunn> in /vendor/asus/grouper/proprietary
[21:41] <rsalveti> yeah, in theory a simple clone and putting the blobs in place should be enough
[21:42] <kgunn> ok, on device under same path (but at android root?
[21:43] <rsalveti> not necessarily
[21:43] <rsalveti> you could run extract_files.sh to be sure you have everything
[21:47] <kgunn> rsalveti: ack
[21:55] <kgunn> rsalveti: sergiusens thanks guys...not done....but put me on the right path
[21:55] <kgunn> path...ironically my problem i think
[22:24] <rsalveti> sergiusens: http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/patches/
[22:24] <rsalveti> for maguro
[22:24] <rsalveti> tested here and working as expected
[22:39] <sergiusens> rsalveti: should I believe you? :-P
[22:39] <sergiusens> lol
[22:39] <sergiusens> testing now
[22:40] <sergiusens> rsalveti: patches there are still for manta
[22:41] <rsalveti> sergiusens: well, that's why you should always test it yourself as well haha
[22:41] <rsalveti> sergiusens: I removed
[22:41] <rsalveti> sergiusens: both are for maguro
[22:42] <rsalveti> argh, the manta one is still there
[22:42] <rsalveti> annoying, hold on
[22:42] <sergiusens> rsalveti: yeah
[22:42] <rsalveti> sergiusens: ok, just refresh
[22:43] <sergiusens> ok, tuna now :-)
[22:43] <sergiusens> good
[22:44] <sergiusens> rsalveti: wasn't the _maguro_ kernel supposed to be called tuna?
[22:45] <rsalveti> sergiusens: the sources is tuna, but the binary can be called maguro
[22:45] <rsalveti> as we could use the same sources to build for a different fish
[22:50] <Kaleo> sergiusens: do you know where I can see the seed for the ubuntu image (list of packages)?
[22:50] <Kaleo> ubuntu touch*/
[22:51] <Kaleo> sergiusens: I guess the ubuntu-touch package is part of it
[22:52] <szymon_w> hi! I'm looking for a way to automate this script from this post http://sergiusens.github.io/posts/google-contacts-on-ubuntu-touch.html  anyone got any idea ?
[22:52] <rsalveti> Kaleo: for raring or saucy?
[22:53] <rsalveti> https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/touch-preview-images/ubuntu-build-phablet
[22:53] <rsalveti> for raring
[22:53] <Uto> hi again
[22:53] <rsalveti> and ubuntu-touch-meta package for saucy
[22:53] <Uto> can someone have a look here please? http://pastebin.com/GmYHmnuC
[22:54] <rsalveti> E/SurfaceFlinger( 1462): hwcomposer module not found
[22:54] <rsalveti> might be missing the binaries for hw
[22:54] <rsalveti> F/libc    ( 1462): Fatal signal 11 (SIGSEGV) at 0xdeadbaad (code=1), thread 1506 (SurfaceFlinger)
[22:55] <Uto> yep, what to do?
[22:55] <rsalveti> you should be able to grab the binaries via the extract_files.sh script
[22:56] <rsalveti> see your /vendor/lib/ in your device
[22:56] <Uto> the blob files... I've alredy did it...
[22:56] <Uto> i'll do it again!
[22:56] <Kaleo> rsalveti: hmm, both
[22:56] <Kaleo> sergiusens: here is the bug report btw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1183150
[22:57] <rsalveti> Kaleo: for saucy: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-touch-meta
[22:57] <rsalveti> and needs to land the archive
[22:57] <rsalveti> I can sponsor you if needed
[23:00] <Kaleo> rsalveti: thx
[23:00] <Uto> rsalveta, i've downloaded this https://github.com/Andromadus/proprietary_htc_vision/tree/cm10.1-wip
[23:01] <Uto> *rsalveti
[23:01] <Uto> sorry
[23:05] <rsalveti> Uto: in theory it seems fine, check what you have in your device
[23:05] <rsalveti> at /vendor/lib/, for example
[23:09] <Uto> in my device in vendor there is only /firmware
[23:11] <Uto> http://pastebin.com/1hs3jcEd
[23:12] <Uto> E/libEGL  ( 1739): eglGetDisplay:121 error 300c (EGL_BAD_PARAMETER)
[23:12] <Uto> E/libEGL  ( 1739): eglInitialize:137 error 3008 (EGL_BAD_DISPLAY)
[23:12] <Uto> E/SurfaceFlinger( 1739): hwcomposer module not found
[23:22] <Uto> any ideas?
[23:24] <rsalveti> hm, then it didn't install the files correctly
[23:24] <rsalveti> maybe the build system is not including them as expected
[23:24] <rsalveti> needs to be away for a few
[23:24] <Uto> ok thx.
[23:24] <Uto> c you
[23:50] <kdub> Uto, you're missing /vendor/lib/hw/hwcomposer.*.so or /system/lib/hw/hwcomposer.*.so