| snap-l | I'm planning on going, along with JoDee | 02:38 |
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| snap-l | what's the worry? | 02:38 |
| snap-l | so it looks like the loco approvals are now going to be called "verified" | 02:38 |
| snap-l | though I fear it'll just be the approval process now used for verification | 02:39 |
| CrusaderAD | Anyone awake? | 02:46 |
| snap-l | https://plus.google.com/114546378907380458640/posts/MqRs4WrCzx7 | 02:49 |
| CrusaderAD | I've got an issue I was hoping someone wouldn't mind taking a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147385 | 02:51 |
| snap-l | You might want to post that on askubuntu.com rather than the forums | 02:52 |
| snap-l | not sure how much traffic they get | 02:52 |
| CrusaderAD | I did :/ | 02:52 |
| snap-l | Also, best to list what cards / routers you've tried | 02:52 |
| snap-l | What's the URL of the askubuntu post? | 02:53 |
| * snap-l will upvote it | 02:53 | |
| CrusaderAD | http://askubuntu.com/questions/298425/ethernet-card-doesnt-connect | 02:53 |
| CrusaderAD | thanks! | 02:53 |
| snap-l | Also, if you use a static IP, do the machines connect? | 02:54 |
| CrusaderAD | I haven't tried that yet. I've tried 3 different ethernet cards, different brands, different cords, different gigabit switches (brands).... same result everywhere. I'm going to give a static IP a shot and see what happens. | 02:56 |
| CrusaderAD | It just blows me away that nothing has worked out of the box. | 02:56 |
| snap-l | I think what's happening is your DHCP server isn't serving properly | 02:56 |
| snap-l | or you've set the switches so nothing can access it | 02:57 |
| snap-l | somewhere it's not getting the info it needs. :) | 02:57 |
| CrusaderAD | Even with different switches? I've had other machines connect just fine to the switches. | 02:57 |
| snap-l | Again, it's not easy to diagnose it unless there's more information | 02:58 |
| CrusaderAD | It's driving me insane to say the least. Thanks for the troubleshooting! It's probably something stupid simple. | 02:58 |
| snap-l | model numbers, connection diagrams | 02:58 |
| snap-l | packet traces | 02:58 |
| CrusaderAD | ever heard of startech? that's the brand I last tried | 02:59 |
| snap-l | But it looks like you have some folks jumping on to help | 02:59 |
| CrusaderAD | I've tried trendnet and netgear gigabit switches | 02:59 |
| snap-l | I've heard of Startech. I can't say I'd knowingly use their networking cards | 02:59 |
| snap-l | What's acting as the DHCP server? | 03:00 |
| CrusaderAD | just the switch... I'm not trying to use it in combo with anything else... some machine connect, this one doesn't. | 03:01 |
| snap-l | The switch is just a dumb repeater | 03:02 |
| CrusaderAD | even though 3 different pci network cards and the on board one fail | 03:02 |
| snap-l | there's nothing in there to act as a router / DHCP server | 03:02 |
| CrusaderAD | a switch doesn't assign an ip by itself? | 03:02 |
| snap-l | nope | 03:02 |
| CrusaderAD | no shit | 03:03 |
| snap-l | So let's determine what you've actually got there | 03:03 |
| snap-l | what's the model of the switch? | 03:03 |
| CrusaderAD | justa sec | 03:03 |
| CrusaderAD | netgear GS105 | 03:05 |
| CrusaderAD | ST1000BT32 Startech | 03:05 |
| CrusaderAD | I have a wireless netgear router that can dhcp | 03:06 |
| snap-l | Were the other machines perchance Windows machines? | 03:06 |
| CrusaderAD | nope, all Ubuntu | 03:06 |
| snap-l | I think you might have set one up as a DHCP server, or used the netgear router as DHCP | 03:06 |
| snap-l | and may have either forgotten that you did that, or something else | 03:07 |
| snap-l | but that Netgear is just going to intelligently repeat packets over the wire | 03:07 |
| snap-l | that's about it | 03:07 |
| snap-l | "Hey, machine X, here's this packet that some machine sent you" | 03:07 |
| snap-l | That's all a switch will do | 03:07 |
| snap-l | (I'm probably grossly oversimplifying it, but that's the gist) | 03:08 |
| CrusaderAD | Am I on the right path to achieve gigabit speeds? | 03:08 |
| snap-l | Well, you have a gigabit switch | 03:08 |
| snap-l | and you have a gigabit card | 03:08 |
| snap-l | but you don't have a router that you've explicitly connected to the network, correct? | 03:09 |
| snap-l | And if you do, what port is it connected to on the switch? | 03:09 |
| CrusaderAD | I have a router managing my wireless devices and has 4 10/100 ports on it. | 03:10 |
| snap-l | Ah, now we're getting somewhere. | 03:10 |
| snap-l | And have you connected the switch to the router in any way? | 03:10 |
| CrusaderAD | when I first tried it, I connected port 1 on 10/100 to port 1 on 10/100/1000 | 03:11 |
| snap-l | There's usually a special port on routers /hubs that allow them to bridge betweeen them | 03:12 |
| snap-l | You might want to try port 5 on the switch | 03:12 |
| snap-l | and see if that makes a difference | 03:12 |
| CrusaderAD | hm, ok... just knowing that I need dhcp from something other than the switch makes things much more clear... I may have had it working at one point and just didn't have it tapped into the router to pull an IP | 03:13 |
| snap-l | Also, bad news: if yor communication goes to the router, it'll bump down to 100 mbit | 03:14 |
| snap-l | so your chances of getting gigabit with that setup are not great. | 03:14 |
| snap-l | Usually your best results are to have gigabit throughout the network connection | 03:15 |
| snap-l | Ideally you'll want to update the router at some point | 03:15 |
| CrusaderAD | yeah, I'll most likely end up doing that too | 03:15 |
| CrusaderAD | Thanks for the help! | 03:17 |
| snap-l | np. Hope it gets you further along. :) | 03:17 |
| rick_h_ | morning party people | 11:22 |
| rick_h_ | ouch http://blog.angularjs.org/2013/05/spring-cleaning-for-github.html | 11:47 |
| snap-l | Good morning | 13:22 |
| rick_h_ | morn | 13:22 |
| brousch | nog | 13:32 |
| brousch | I just came across this band: Absinthe - Amish industrial hardcore folk | 15:47 |
| greg-g | wait, is that first part for realz? | 15:50 |
| greg-g | and, what does industrial folk sound like? | 15:50 |
| snap-l | Keep in mind: Amorphis labels themselves as folk | 15:50 |
| brousch | I have no idea | 15:51 |
| brousch | They will be at the GR Festival of the Arts | 15:51 |
| snap-l | That could be utterly awesome, or a trainwreck | 15:52 |
| * rick_h_ runs | 15:52 | |
| brousch | http://www.reverbnation.com/absintheband | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | everyone try out the google music radio stuff? | 15:52 |
| greg-g | they don't look amish | 15:53 |
| snap-l | Sounds like something that would be played on WRIF | 15:54 |
| snap-l | Not bad | 15:55 |
| snap-l | but I'm not hearing the industrial or Amish | 15:55 |
| snap-l | Sounds more like Stone Sour with a good vocalist | 15:55 |
| snap-l | Some label support and I could see that band being very radio friendly. | 15:56 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: No, I haven't yet. | 15:57 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: lol'ing at it since I have to use it in FF, just blows up in Chrome | 15:58 |
| greg-g | hah, nice | 15:58 |
| snap-l | Oh that's precious. | 15:58 |
| brousch | rick_h_: Hm. $8/mo is a bit steep | 15:59 |
| brousch | I think my wife pays $4/mo for Pandora | 16:00 |
| jrwren | supporting the people who corrupt our senators and create perpetual (c) laws. *task* :p | 16:03 |
| jrwren | jcastro: fun with fanzoo, tonight, 6pm. you want to meet there? | 16:03 |
| brousch | jrwren: Are you saying Pandora is evil? | 16:04 |
| jrwren | yup | 16:10 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yea, but this is nicer for sure. | 16:29 |
| rick_h_ | I've paid for ad free pandora before and guess I will because it works on the squeezebox that we run | 16:29 |
| rick_h_ | but for nice work music playing this is cool | 16:30 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2013/05/2013-national-geographic-traveler-photo-contest/100516/ crazy | 16:46 |
| brousch | jrwren: I'll let my wife know and see if she gives a flip | 17:15 |
| jrwren | excellent | 17:16 |
| greg-g | time to do the SFO->AMS thing | 17:48 |
| greg-g | for http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013 | 17:48 |
| brousch | Aren't they the same city? | 17:49 |
| greg-g | just the "coffee shop" part | 17:50 |
| greg-g | alright, laterz! | 17:50 |
| jcastro | hackathon? | 17:55 |
| jcastro | or smokeathon?? | 17:55 |
| brousch | Most mellow hackathon evar | 17:57 |
| jrwren | jcastro: tonight, 6pm. you want to meet there or do you want to meet before hand? | 17:58 |
| jcastro | yeah sorry I was on the phone | 17:58 |
| jcastro | one sec | 17:58 |
| jcastro | let me find jill's plans | 17:59 |
| jcastro | jrwren: what is this fanzoo thing? | 17:59 |
| jrwren | does python urlparse have something which will give /a/b?blah from http://host/a/b/?blah ? parse splits on ? and I find I must path+'?'+query to reconstruct that part myself. | 18:00 |
| jrwren | jcastro: its a code session. basically people sitting around working on whatever they want while talking shit. nothing formal | 18:00 |
| jcastro | jrwren: yeah so my only issue is that jill's car is in the shop and she took mine until like 8:30, since I'm not far from you can homey get a pickup? | 18:01 |
| jcastro | ok so fanzoo is like CHC then | 18:01 |
| jrwren | yes, its CHC with beer. | 18:01 |
| rick_h_ | CHC ftw! | 18:01 |
| jrwren | jeff is so awesome he usually provides beer & subs. | 18:01 |
| rick_h_ | crap, they've got beer? cheaters! | 18:01 |
| jrwren | jcastro: pm me your address. I'll come get you at 5:30 | 18:02 |
| jcastro | yeah! | 18:02 |
| brousch | rick_h_: google Music fails for you in chrome? | 18:05 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yea, throws and error when I try to play and keeps asking me to relaod | 18:05 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: that's with chrome dev channel | 18:05 |
| brousch | Ah, it seems fine with Chrome stable | 18:06 |
| brousch | It generated a good playlist based on pirates of the carribean | 18:06 |
| jcastro | http://ipayroadtax.com/no-such-thing-as-road-tax/i-knocked-a-cyclist-off-his-bike-i-have-right-of-way-he-doesnt-even-pay-road-tax/ | 18:07 |
| jcastro | THIS IS EPIC | 18:07 |
| jrwren | wow | 18:14 |
| rick_h_ | that's crazy | 18:15 |
| rick_h_ | so reading the comments a twitter post might stop her career right as it's about to get going. | 18:15 |
| rick_h_ | <3 the modern world. Done downloading 24GB of google take out stuff before the EOD | 18:17 |
| jrwren | google take out stuff? | 18:19 |
| rick_h_ | now uploading 24GB of photos frightens me | 18:19 |
| jrwren | you can download food? | 18:19 |
| rick_h_ | did a google takeout of my photos | 18:19 |
| brousch | that's a lot of photos | 18:19 |
| rick_h_ | https://www.google.com/takeout/ | 18:19 |
| brousch | Did you find a new host? | 18:19 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: well, I've been using flickr for things and was going to upload them there. For now I'm pulling them down and will make sure they're all on my NAS | 18:20 |
| brousch | I use flickr, then smugmug, now picasaweb | 18:20 |
| rick_h_ | the whole ads on flickr thing is annoying and I'll probably pay the new higher price for no ads, but curious if that removes ads for people viewing my galleries | 18:20 |
| rick_h_ | I don't want to link my grandparents to a bunch of ads on my photos | 18:21 |
| jrwren | oh right, google takeout! | 18:21 |
| brousch | I got annoyed by the extra steps for google login on flickr | 18:21 |
| rick_h_ | I just want to be able to load photos and point family at urls for a gallery | 18:21 |
| rick_h_ | Google has fubar'd that up | 18:21 |
| brousch | smugmug is good for that | 18:21 |
| brousch | Can do your own domain, too | 18:21 |
| rick_h_ | for some reason I equate smugmug with the twitter pic hosts that seem spammy and such. | 18:22 |
| brousch | No. You pay for it. no ads, no spam | 18:22 |
| rick_h_ | and I worry about longevity at this point. | 18:22 |
| brousch | They cater to profession photographers, so they allow raw uploads, nice custom themes, unlimited storage | 18:23 |
| rick_h_ | cool, /me is looking at the site | 18:23 |
| brousch | Opposite of imgur and such | 18:23 |
| brousch | I think the biggest drawback when I left was no/poor mobile app and digikam integration | 18:24 |
| brousch | That was like 18 months ago, so I'm not sure how that's improved | 18:25 |
| brousch | looks like they have mobile apps now | 18:27 |
| jrwren | run gallery, cuz PHP is awesome. | 18:31 |
| jrwren | and man that UI looks good :p | 18:31 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 18:31 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Good luck getting a pro account on Flickr | 18:31 |
| snap-l | apparently they're doing "things" to make sure people get ads. | 18:31 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: I had a pro account. Now I'd need to pay more for an 'ad-free' account | 18:31 |
| brousch | OH, has anyone tried mediagoblin? | 18:35 |
| rick_h_ | looked at the code :P but not tried it out | 18:35 |
| snap-l | Haven't tried it out either | 18:35 |
| brousch | Well dangit | 18:36 |
| snap-l | It's not PHP, so I can't put it on my web server. :) | 18:36 |
| brousch | Get a real webserver :P | 18:36 |
| brousch | It's not Django, so you can't complain about that | 18:37 |
| brousch | Here you go. Revive this https://pypi.python.org/pypi/PyGall/0.12 | 18:40 |
| snap-l | How about no. | 18:41 |
| brousch | Pyramid! | 18:41 |
| rick_h_ | there are several static generating things. I'd just do that, though a 24G git repo would be scary | 18:41 |
| widox | dropbox? they have a gallery thing now | 19:05 |
| rick_h_ | widox: thought about it. | 19:05 |
| jrwren | don't put them into git. | 19:06 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: yea, was just being funny | 19:06 |
| jrwren | oh. *whew* | 19:06 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: I'm not sticking GB of binary data into any VCS really | 19:07 |
| brousch | github that sumbitch | 19:07 |
| brousch | digikam seems to be fixed with smugmug | 19:09 |
| brousch | Crazy stuff. The mediagoblin lead dev just showed up in an unrelated channel and we started chatting | 20:05 |
| snap-l | http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2013/05/a-change-to-google-code-download-service.html | 20:33 |
| snap-l | So it looks like Sourceforge is one of the few places offering project downloads | 20:33 |
| jrwren | jcastro: OMG | 21:17 |
| jcastro | OMG yo | 21:17 |
| jcastro | jrwren: what's up | 21:18 |
| CrusaderAD | Hey snap-l just wanted to let you know I got the gigabit stuff worked out... you got me on the right path. Really helped me out, thanks! | 22:04 |
| snap-l | CrusaderAD: Awesome! Glad it helped! | 22:12 |
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