[02:38] <snap-l> I'm planning on going, along with JoDee
[02:38] <snap-l> what's the worry?
[02:38] <snap-l> so it looks like the loco approvals are now going to be called "verified"
[02:39] <snap-l> though I fear it'll just be the approval process now used for verification
[02:46] <CrusaderAD> Anyone awake?
[02:49] <snap-l> https://plus.google.com/114546378907380458640/posts/MqRs4WrCzx7
[02:51] <CrusaderAD> I've got an issue I was hoping someone wouldn't mind taking a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147385
[02:52] <snap-l> You might want to post that on askubuntu.com rather than the forums
[02:52] <snap-l> not sure how much traffic they get
[02:52] <CrusaderAD> I did :/
[02:52] <snap-l> Also, best to list what cards / routers you've tried
[02:53] <snap-l> What's the URL of the askubuntu post?
[02:53]  * snap-l will upvote it
[02:53] <CrusaderAD> http://askubuntu.com/questions/298425/ethernet-card-doesnt-connect
[02:53] <CrusaderAD> thanks!
[02:54] <snap-l> Also, if you use a static IP, do the machines connect?
[02:56] <CrusaderAD> I haven't tried that yet. I've tried 3 different ethernet cards, different brands, different cords, different gigabit switches (brands).... same result everywhere. I'm going to give a static IP a shot and see what happens.
[02:56] <CrusaderAD> It just blows me away that nothing has worked out of the box.
[02:56] <snap-l> I think what's happening is your DHCP server isn't serving properly
[02:57] <snap-l> or you've set the switches so nothing can access it
[02:57] <snap-l> somewhere it's not getting the info it needs. :)
[02:57] <CrusaderAD> Even with different switches? I've had other machines connect just fine to the switches.
[02:58] <snap-l> Again, it's not easy to diagnose it unless there's more information
[02:58] <CrusaderAD> It's driving me insane to say the least. Thanks for the troubleshooting! It's probably something stupid simple.
[02:58] <snap-l> model numbers, connection diagrams
[02:58] <snap-l> packet traces
[02:59] <CrusaderAD> ever heard of startech? that's the brand I last tried
[02:59] <snap-l> But it looks like you have some folks jumping on to help
[02:59] <CrusaderAD> I've tried trendnet and netgear gigabit switches
[02:59] <snap-l> I've heard of Startech. I can't say I'd knowingly use their networking cards
[03:00] <snap-l> What's acting as the DHCP server?
[03:01] <CrusaderAD> just the switch... I'm not trying to use it in combo with anything else... some machine connect, this one doesn't.
[03:02] <snap-l> The switch is just a dumb repeater
[03:02] <CrusaderAD> even though 3 different pci network cards and the on board one fail
[03:02] <snap-l> there's nothing in there to act as a router / DHCP server
[03:02] <CrusaderAD> a switch doesn't assign an ip by itself?
[03:02] <snap-l> nope
[03:03] <CrusaderAD> no shit
[03:03] <snap-l> So let's determine what you've actually got there
[03:03] <snap-l> what's the model of the switch?
[03:03] <CrusaderAD> justa sec
[03:05] <CrusaderAD> netgear GS105
[03:05] <CrusaderAD> ST1000BT32 Startech
[03:06] <CrusaderAD> I have a wireless netgear router that can dhcp
[03:06] <snap-l> Were the other machines perchance Windows machines?
[03:06] <CrusaderAD> nope, all Ubuntu
[03:06] <snap-l> I think you might have set one up as a DHCP server, or used the netgear router as DHCP
[03:07] <snap-l> and may have either forgotten that you did that, or something else
[03:07] <snap-l> but that Netgear is just going to intelligently repeat packets over the wire
[03:07] <snap-l> that's about it
[03:07] <snap-l> "Hey, machine X, here's this packet that some machine sent you"
[03:07] <snap-l> That's all a switch will do
[03:08] <snap-l> (I'm probably grossly oversimplifying it, but that's the gist)
[03:08] <CrusaderAD> Am I on the right path to achieve gigabit speeds?
[03:08] <snap-l> Well, you have a gigabit switch
[03:08] <snap-l> and you have a gigabit card
[03:09] <snap-l> but you don't have a router that you've explicitly connected to the network, correct?
[03:09] <snap-l> And if you do, what port is it connected to on the switch?
[03:10] <CrusaderAD> I have a router managing my wireless devices and has 4 10/100 ports on it.
[03:10] <snap-l> Ah, now we're getting somewhere.
[03:10] <snap-l> And have you connected the switch to the router in any way?
[03:11] <CrusaderAD> when I first tried it, I connected port 1 on 10/100 to port 1 on 10/100/1000
[03:12] <snap-l> There's usually a special port on routers /hubs that allow them to bridge betweeen them
[03:12] <snap-l> You might want to try port 5 on the switch
[03:12] <snap-l> and see if that makes a difference
[03:13] <CrusaderAD> hm, ok... just knowing that I need dhcp from something other than the switch makes things much more clear... I may have had it working at one point and just didn't have it tapped into the router to pull an IP
[03:14] <snap-l> Also, bad news: if yor communication goes to the router, it'll bump down to 100 mbit
[03:14] <snap-l> so your chances of getting gigabit with that setup are not great.
[03:15] <snap-l> Usually your best results are to have gigabit throughout the network connection
[03:15] <snap-l> Ideally you'll want to update the router at some point
[03:15] <CrusaderAD> yeah, I'll most likely end up doing that too
[03:17] <CrusaderAD> Thanks for the help!
[03:17] <snap-l> np. Hope it gets you further along. :)
[11:22] <rick_h_> morning party people
[11:47] <rick_h_> ouch http://blog.angularjs.org/2013/05/spring-cleaning-for-github.html
[13:22] <snap-l> Good morning
[13:22] <rick_h_> morn
[13:32] <brousch> nog
[15:47] <brousch> I just came across this band: Absinthe - Amish industrial hardcore folk
[15:50] <greg-g> wait, is that first part for realz?
[15:50] <greg-g> and, what does industrial folk sound like?
[15:50] <snap-l> Keep in mind: Amorphis labels themselves as folk
[15:51] <brousch> I have no idea
[15:51] <brousch> They will be at the GR Festival of the Arts
[15:52] <snap-l> That could be utterly awesome, or a trainwreck
[15:52]  * rick_h_ runs
[15:52] <brousch> http://www.reverbnation.com/absintheband
[15:52] <rick_h_> everyone try out the google music radio stuff?
[15:53] <greg-g> they don't look amish
[15:54] <snap-l> Sounds like something that would be played on WRIF
[15:55] <snap-l> Not bad
[15:55] <snap-l> but I'm not hearing the industrial or Amish
[15:55] <snap-l> Sounds more like Stone Sour with a good vocalist
[15:56] <snap-l> Some label support and I could see that band being very radio friendly.
[15:57] <snap-l> rick_h_: No, I haven't yet.
[15:58] <rick_h_> snap-l: lol'ing at it since I have to use it in FF, just blows up in Chrome
[15:58] <greg-g> hah, nice
[15:58] <snap-l> Oh that's precious.
[15:59] <brousch> rick_h_: Hm. $8/mo is a bit steep
[16:00] <brousch> I think my wife pays $4/mo for Pandora
[16:03] <jrwren> supporting the people who corrupt our senators and create perpetual (c) laws. *task* :p
[16:03] <jrwren> jcastro: fun with fanzoo, tonight, 6pm. you want to meet there?
[16:04] <brousch> jrwren: Are you saying Pandora is evil?
[16:10] <jrwren> yup
[16:29] <rick_h_> brousch: yea, but this is nicer for sure.
[16:29] <rick_h_> I've paid for ad free pandora before and guess I will because it works on the squeezebox that we run
[16:30] <rick_h_> but for nice work music playing this is cool
[16:46] <rick_h_> http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2013/05/2013-national-geographic-traveler-photo-contest/100516/ crazy
[17:15] <brousch> jrwren: I'll let my wife know and see if she gives a flip
[17:16] <jrwren>  excellent
[17:48] <greg-g> time to do the SFO->AMS thing
[17:48] <greg-g> for http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013
[17:49] <brousch> Aren't they the same city?
[17:50] <greg-g> just the "coffee shop" part
[17:50] <greg-g> alright, laterz!
[17:55] <jcastro> hackathon?
[17:55] <jcastro> or smokeathon??
[17:57] <brousch> Most mellow hackathon evar
[17:58] <jrwren> jcastro: tonight, 6pm. you want to meet there or do you want to meet before hand?
[17:58] <jcastro> yeah sorry I was on the phone
[17:58] <jcastro> one sec
[17:59] <jcastro> let me find jill's plans
[17:59] <jcastro> jrwren: what is this fanzoo thing?
[18:00] <jrwren> does python urlparse have something which will give /a/b?blah from http://host/a/b/?blah ?  parse splits on ? and I find I must path+'?'+query to reconstruct that part myself.
[18:00] <jrwren> jcastro: its a code session. basically people sitting around working on whatever they want while talking shit. nothing formal
[18:01] <jcastro> jrwren: yeah so my only issue is that jill's car is in the shop and she took mine until like 8:30, since I'm not far from you can homey get a pickup?
[18:01] <jcastro> ok so fanzoo is like CHC then
[18:01] <jrwren> yes, its CHC with beer.
[18:01] <rick_h_> CHC ftw!
[18:01] <jrwren> jeff is so awesome he usually provides beer & subs.
[18:01] <rick_h_> crap, they've got beer? cheaters!
[18:02] <jrwren> jcastro: pm me your address. I'll come get you at 5:30
[18:02] <jcastro> yeah!
[18:05] <brousch> rick_h_: google Music fails for you in chrome?
[18:05] <rick_h_> brousch: yea, throws and error when I try to play and keeps asking me to relaod
[18:05] <rick_h_> brousch: that's with chrome dev channel
[18:06] <brousch> Ah, it seems fine with Chrome stable
[18:06] <brousch> It generated a good playlist based on pirates of the carribean
[18:07] <jcastro> http://ipayroadtax.com/no-such-thing-as-road-tax/i-knocked-a-cyclist-off-his-bike-i-have-right-of-way-he-doesnt-even-pay-road-tax/
[18:07] <jcastro> THIS IS EPIC
[18:14] <jrwren> wow
[18:15] <rick_h_> that's crazy
[18:15] <rick_h_> so reading the comments a twitter post might stop her career right as it's about to get going.
[18:17] <rick_h_> <3 the modern world. Done downloading 24GB of google take out stuff before the EOD
[18:19] <jrwren> google take out stuff?
[18:19] <rick_h_> now uploading 24GB of photos frightens me
[18:19] <jrwren> you can download food?
[18:19] <rick_h_> did a google takeout of my photos
[18:19] <brousch> that's a lot of photos
[18:19] <rick_h_> https://www.google.com/takeout/
[18:19] <brousch> Did you find a new host?
[18:20] <rick_h_> brousch: well, I've been using flickr for things and was going to upload them there. For now I'm pulling them down and will make sure they're all on my NAS
[18:20] <brousch> I use flickr, then smugmug, now picasaweb
[18:20] <rick_h_> the whole ads on flickr thing is annoying and I'll probably pay the new higher price for no ads, but curious if that removes ads for people viewing my galleries
[18:21] <rick_h_> I don't want to link my grandparents to a bunch of ads on my photos
[18:21] <jrwren> oh right, google takeout!
[18:21] <brousch> I got annoyed by the extra steps for google login on flickr
[18:21] <rick_h_> I just want to be able to load photos and point family at urls for a gallery
[18:21] <rick_h_> Google has fubar'd that up
[18:21] <brousch> smugmug is good for that
[18:21] <brousch> Can do your own domain, too
[18:22] <rick_h_> for some reason I equate smugmug with the twitter pic hosts that seem spammy and such.
[18:22] <brousch> No. You pay for it. no ads, no spam
[18:22] <rick_h_> and I worry about longevity at this point.
[18:23] <brousch> They cater to profession photographers, so they allow raw uploads, nice custom themes, unlimited storage
[18:23] <rick_h_> cool, /me is looking at the site
[18:23] <brousch> Opposite of imgur and such
[18:24] <brousch> I think the biggest drawback when I left was no/poor mobile app and digikam integration
[18:25] <brousch> That was like 18 months ago, so I'm not sure how that's improved
[18:27] <brousch> looks like they have mobile apps now
[18:31] <jrwren> run gallery, cuz PHP is awesome.
[18:31] <jrwren> and man that UI looks good :p
[18:31] <rick_h_> lol
[18:31] <snap-l> rick_h_: Good luck getting a pro account on Flickr
[18:31] <snap-l> apparently they're doing "things" to make sure people get ads.
[18:31] <rick_h_> snap-l: I had a pro account. Now I'd need to pay more for an 'ad-free' account
[18:35] <brousch> OH, has anyone tried mediagoblin?
[18:35] <rick_h_> looked at the code :P but not tried it out
[18:35] <snap-l> Haven't tried it out either
[18:36] <brousch> Well dangit
[18:36] <snap-l> It's not PHP, so I can't put it on my web server. :)
[18:36] <brousch> Get a real webserver :P
[18:37] <brousch> It's not Django, so you can't complain about that
[18:40] <brousch> Here you go. Revive this https://pypi.python.org/pypi/PyGall/0.12
[18:41] <snap-l> How about no.
[18:41] <brousch> Pyramid!
[18:41] <rick_h_> there are several static generating things. I'd just do that, though a 24G git repo would be scary
[19:05] <widox> dropbox? they have a gallery thing now
[19:05] <rick_h_> widox: thought about it.
[19:06] <jrwren> don't put them into git.
[19:06] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, was just being funny
[19:06] <jrwren> oh. *whew*
[19:07] <rick_h_> jrwren: I'm not sticking GB of binary data into any VCS really
[19:07] <brousch> github that sumbitch
[19:09] <brousch> digikam seems to be fixed with smugmug
[20:05] <brousch> Crazy stuff. The mediagoblin lead dev just showed up in an unrelated channel and we started chatting
[20:33] <snap-l> http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2013/05/a-change-to-google-code-download-service.html
[20:33] <snap-l> So it looks like Sourceforge is one of the few places offering project downloads
[21:17] <jrwren> jcastro: OMG
[21:17] <jcastro> OMG yo
[21:18] <jcastro> jrwren: what's up
[22:04] <CrusaderAD> Hey snap-l just wanted to let you know I got the gigabit stuff worked out... you got me on the right path. Really helped me out, thanks!
[22:12] <snap-l> CrusaderAD: Awesome! Glad it helped!