[06:27] <Kilos> morning all
[06:49] <sakhi> Morning all
[06:49] <sakhi> morning Kilos 
[06:49] <Kilos> hi sakhi 
[06:58] <Vince-0> surp
[06:58] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[06:59] <magespawn> good morning
[07:00] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[07:00] <magespawn> how you doing Kilos?
[07:01] <Kilos> alive and kicking ty and you magespawn 
[07:01] <Kilos> just cold
[07:02] <magespawn> all good, cool so only fans on today
[07:03] <Kilos> temps ai went down to 6°c here last night
[07:03] <magespawn> upgrading my kubuntu from 12.10 to 13.04
[07:03] <Kilos> only fans that run here are pc internal
[07:03] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[07:04] <Kilos> hows our girl?
[07:04] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[07:16] <magespawn> bbl 
[07:16] <Kilos> k
[07:28] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[07:32] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:02] <Kilos> hi amanica you here twice
[08:02]  * Kilos greets both of you
[08:17] <Kilos> wbb
[08:17] <trender> twice as much fun huh
[08:17] <Kilos> haha
[08:17] <trender> yo ooom
[08:18] <Kilos> hi trender 
[08:36] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[08:45] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[08:45] <Xethron> heya Kilos :)
[08:46] <Kilos> hehe you okes and your smileys
[08:46] <Kilos> hard work
[08:59] <Xethron_> lol
[09:00] <Xethron_> ah, Kilos left
[09:00] <superfly> morning ki<tab>, Xethron_
[09:00] <Xethron_> lol
[09:01] <Xethron_> :D
[09:01] <Xethron_> woot
[09:20] <Kilos> ohi ThatGraemeGuy 
[09:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> hellos :)
[09:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[09:22] <superfly> welcome back, Kilos
[09:23] <superfly> morning ThatGraemeGuy
[09:23] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[09:23] <Kilos> you still at work till the 24th superfly ?
[09:24] <superfly> Yes
[09:25] <Kilos> oh well min dae now
[09:34] <Kilos> hi HawkiesZA 
[09:34] <HawkiesZA> Hi Oom Kilos
[09:35] <Kilos> you all alone next week. the fly is gonna fly away
[09:36] <HawkiesZA> Yeah...very sad
[09:36] <Kilos> hi bomberman 
[09:36] <Kilos> never mind he will return
[09:36] <bomberman> 'morning
[09:37] <bomberman> so many people!
[09:37] <Kilos> yeah lekker, but most just lurk
[09:37] <bomberman> haha
[09:37] <Kilos> only hop in when nonlurkers give bad info
[09:39] <bomberman> Are we still hating Canonical? http://www.datamation.com/open-source/ubuntu-restoring-the-community-link.html
[09:40] <Kilos> we cant hate them , they been too good to us
[09:46] <Vince-0> Canonical just has some issues restructuring communications and processes with the community arm
[10:46] <Kilos> hi kees_ 
[10:47] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[11:22] <Kilos> friendly oke kees
[11:31] <Symmetria> http://www.flickr.com/photos/95680965@N04/8783988612/in/set-72157633494536721
[11:31] <Symmetria> !
[11:31] <Symmetria> bug!
[11:31] <Symmetria> lol, damn thing didnt wanna sit still though which made taking that a pain 
[11:31] <Symmetria> shoulda used bug spray ;p
[13:43] <Symmetria> lol anc just got ripped apart in parliment
[13:43] <Trixar_za> Oo
[13:44] <Symmetria> http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-UPDATES-GuptaWaterkloof-debate-20130522
[13:44] <Symmetria> lol read that
[13:49] <magespawn> afternoon all
[13:50] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[13:51] <Trixar_za> Ah, the FF Plus
[13:51] <Trixar_za> He always aims for the DA
[13:52] <Trixar_za> Too afraid to take on the big bad ANC, so go for smaller targets
[13:52] <magespawn> how is the afternoon Kilos? new people, i see
[13:52] <Trixar_za> Wannabe shark that
[13:53] <Kilos> yeah 
[13:53] <magespawn> in politics you never aim too high, the big ones just ignore the little ones
[13:53] <magespawn> Symmetria: do you know what bug it is?
[13:54] <Vince-0> what a croc
[13:57] <magespawn> whats that Vince-0?
[13:59] <Vince-0> oh lol, that news24 debate coverage
[14:00] <Vince-0> darnit! 4pm already. I'm doing an hour of LPI study at work
[14:05] <magespawn> funny how time moves when you are having fun
[14:08] <Vince-0> or snowed under with work tasks
[14:10] <magespawn> that too
[14:14] <Kilos> magespawn, whats news with banlam and bakuman , they left the country and their pcs come online or what?
[14:15] <magespawn> are they out of the country Kilos?
[14:15] <Kilos> lol im asking you?
[14:15] <Kilos> hehe
[14:15] <magespawn> no idea
[14:15] <Kilos> Banlam, wb
[14:15] <magespawn> maybe they just busy
[14:16] <Kilos> havent seen or heard from them in months
[14:20] <magespawn> i am trying to upgrade kubuntu from 12.10 to 13.04, and i am not having much luck so far
[14:20] <Kilos> aw
[14:20] <magespawn> keeps telling me no new release found
[14:20] <Kilos> alternate cd or online upgrade
[14:21] <magespawn> online upgrade
[14:21] <Kilos> you been trying for hours now
[14:21] <Kilos> wassup
[14:21] <magespawn> nah was out of the shop most of the day
[14:21] <Kilos> ah
[14:21] <Kilos> ithought you started it before you left
[14:22] <magespawn> i type in do-release-upgrade -d then it comes back Checking for new Ubuntu Release, No new release found
[14:22] <magespawn> i tried but then had to run
[14:23] <Kilos> maybe wrong command
[14:23] <Kilos> ask superfly 
[14:23] <Kilos> he always does upgrades
[14:23] <magespawn> superfly you free?
[14:23] <superfly> not right now
[14:23] <Kilos> na hes expensive
[14:24] <Kilos> magespawn, hasnt muon got a block to tick to do it
[14:24] <Kilos> like update manager
[14:25] <magespawn> will have a look been using the command line to far
[14:25] <Kilos> you may be missing something in your command
[14:26] <Kilos> with apt-get or aptitude or just sudo do-the-thing
[14:28] <Cantide> i did an upgrade once.. it worked fine
[14:28] <Cantide> i didn't use the command line though
[14:28] <Cantide> can't remember exactly what i did >.<
[14:28] <magespawn> i am downloading all the latest iso so if it does not work then will do a freash install
[14:29] <magespawn> fresh as well
[14:32] <Cantide> fresh installs are always the best
[14:32] <Cantide> which is why i've not done an upgrade since that one time :p
[14:35] <Kilos> i think so too
[14:36] <Kilos> if you have separate partitions
[14:36] <Kilos> or save /home/ to a backup
[14:39] <Cantide> yeah :p
[14:39] <magespawn> all my data is on an external drive anyway, so just have to redo my extra programs
[14:40] <magespawn> this was a kde install over one of the others so that might also be why it is not working right
[14:40] <Cantide> i tweak my OS a lot after installing -.-
[14:40] <Cantide> keyboard input, programs... lots of them
[14:40] <Cantide> it takes some time to get everything set up again :<
[14:42] <Kilos> ya getting everything the same takes much longer than the install
[14:42] <Cantide> yup
[14:42] <Cantide> else i'd be running 13.04 right now :p
[14:42] <Kilos> but having a separate /home and not deleting it helps
[14:42] <Cantide> yup
[14:42] <Cantide> much easier, but i've heard /home can break things because of settings
[14:43] <Kilos> mail and pidgin and so remembers whats what
[14:43] <Cantide> i'd rather store my data elsewhere and just wipe everything else :p
[14:43] <Kilos> and all the junk on the desktop returns
[14:45] <Kilos> even the dejadup backup option works well
[14:50] <magespawn> does anyone know where we can get remastersys from?
[14:50] <magespawn> and what is LVM?
[14:50] <magespawn> Logical Volume Manager?
[14:52] <Kilos> Maaz, google remastersys for ubuntu 
[14:52] <Maaz> Kilos: "Remastersys" http://www.remastersys.com/ :: "Index of /ubuntu - Remastersys" http://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu/ :: "Remastersys 3.0.1-1 for Ubuntu released" http://www.remastersys.com/forums/index.php?topic=1923.0 :: "images - How do I install remastersys? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/133272/how-do-i-install-remastersys :: "remastersys -
[14:52] <Maaz> Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remastersys :: "How-to Instal…
[14:52] <Kilos> what version magespawn 
[14:53] <Kilos> tumbleweed, hi there, whats news about getting maaz to stop doing double post like this
[14:53] <magespawn> any i suppose, all?
[14:53] <Kilos> no man of ubuntu
[14:53] <Kilos> i dunno if they differ
[14:54] <Kilos> it worked here on 12.04 kde and unity
[14:54] <Kilos> running off dvd is the same as running of your drive
[14:55] <Kilos> now 12.04 dont crash anymore because i got it all
[14:58] <magespawn> here is the link of the guys who have forked the project http://system-imaging.blogspot.com/
[15:02] <Kilos> save that magespawn ill need it come 14.04 time
[15:03] <magespawn> can we ask Maaz to save it?
[15:06] <Kilos> ya
[15:06] <Kilos> Maaz, remastersys is <reply> http://system-imaging.blogspot.com/
[15:06] <Maaz> Kilos: I'll remember that
[15:07] <magespawn> there we go then
[15:27] <superfly> magespawn: ping
[15:27] <magespawn> hey superfly
[15:27] <superfly> (on my way home now)
[15:27] <superfly> magespawn: what did you want? 
[15:28] <magespawn> i was trying to upgrade from kubuntu 12.10 to 13.04 and not having much luck
[15:28] <magespawn> was trying from the cli
[15:28] <magespawn> with do-release-upgrade
[15:28] <superfly> You did do-releasw-upgrade ?
[15:28] <superfly> Right (lag)
[15:29] <superfly> And them what happened? 
[15:29] <superfly> Argh autocorrect! 
[15:29] <magespawn> it checked then said no new release
[15:32] <Kilos> magespawn, dont kde come from a different site?
[15:32] <Kilos> or is it all in the repos
[15:33] <magespawn> as far as i know it is
[15:33] <Kilos> same
[15:33] <Kilos> Maaz, google where to get kubuntu 13.04
[15:33] <Maaz> Kilos: "Kubuntu 13.04 | Kubuntu" http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-13.04 :: "Kubuntu | Friendly Computing" http://www.kubuntu.org/ :: "News and Announcements | Kubuntu" http://www.kubuntu.org/news :: "Kubuntu 13.04 Final Release Review - Fancy but Unstable - YouTube" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGu5ZSPTqYA :: "See What`s New In Kubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail)
[15:33] <Maaz> ~ Web Upd8 ..." http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/see-whats-new-in-kubuntu-1304-raring.html …
[15:33] <magespawn> new iso will be finished in the morning so no stress really
[15:34] <magespawn> i am also going to try debian
[15:34] <Kilos> different links
[15:34] <Kilos> you said you added kde on to there
[15:34] <magespawn> i think so but cannot actually remember
[15:35] <Kilos> maybe its still looking at ubuntu links
[15:35] <magespawn> maybe
[15:35] <magespawn> i thought i was getting the command wrong
[15:35] <Kilos> look in muon where it is looking
[15:36] <Kilos> if its ubuntu link give the kubuntu one instead
[15:36] <magespawn> pc packed away now, getting ready to go home
[15:36] <Kilos> ah
[15:37] <Kilos> ok go safe see you later
[15:38] <magespawn> not going just yet
[15:39] <Kilos> ok
[15:39] <magespawn> still got a few things to do
[16:02] <magespawn> home time, later all
[16:02] <Kilos> ok
[17:35] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:35] <Kilos> g+ getting like facebook
[17:36] <Kilos> peeps i dont even know add me to their circles
[17:36] <Kilos> i havent even posted there  i think
[17:37] <Kilos> that oke linu sounds like me. hehe
[17:37] <Kilos> wow its free
[17:41] <Symmetria> http://www.flickr.com/photos/95680965@N04/8782182241/in/set-72157633494536721
[17:41] <Symmetria> ! its the insect overlords cousin
[18:31] <Kilos> hmm... i miss inetpro here
[18:31] <Kilos> he remembers lots ive forgotten
[18:31] <Kilos> hi cocooncrash hows things with you?
[19:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> hello peeps
[19:05] <Cantide> hello, ThatGraemeGuy 
[19:05] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[19:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> finally getting around to installing kubuntu
[19:07] <Kilos> lol
[19:08] <Kilos> its lekker but took some getting used to
[19:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> haven't used kde in YEARS
[19:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> i think the last time i used it, Ubuntu hardly existed
[19:10] <Kilos> ah then you got the basics already
[19:10] <Kilos> is kde and kubuntu the same thing?
[19:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> not quite
[19:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> kde is the desktop environment
[19:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> kubuntu is the ubuntu base system with kde
[19:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> regular ubuntu is ubuntu's base with the unity desktop environment
[19:12] <Kilos> i mean do they look the same
[19:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> well kubuntu uses kde as its desktop, so yes
[19:12] <Kilos> what has kubuntu changed from pure kde
[19:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> but kde exists separately from ubuntu as well
[19:13] <Kilos> then youll enjoy it
[19:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> i don't know really, not a lot i'd imagine
[19:15] <Kilos> so soon you also gonna be using quassel
[19:15] <Kilos> yo amanica 
[19:15] <Kilos> another kde okey
[19:16] <trender> tonight its twice as nice hour
[19:16] <Kilos> huh?
[19:16] <trender> 2 nicks for the price of one
[19:16] <Kilos> lol
[19:16] <trender> bring in yer clones
[19:17] <Kilos> no these okes use quassel client and can bounce from cell or pc
[19:17] <trender> i should bring my 50 clones into this channel
[19:17] <Cantide> o.o
[19:17]  * Cantide hides
[19:17] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[19:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> uh, no you really shouldn't
[19:17] <trender> make this channel rok
[19:18] <Kilos> no man this is a work channel
[19:18] <trender> we tunr this channle into a night club joll
[19:18] <Kilos> grrr
[19:18] <trender> :)
[19:18] <Cantide> hey Kilos :)
[19:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> ah there we go
[19:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> got a dark theme for quassel, my eyes rejoiceth
[19:24] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: I've got a stylesheet for Quassel based on KDE's Obsidian coast theme, which is the best dark theme for KDE (in my opinion)
[19:24] <superfly> now if only I could remember where I save it to
[19:24] <superfly> i mean, uploaded itp
[19:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> i put these sorts of random things in my dropbox :)
[19:25] <superfly> ah, here, of course: http://home.snyman.info/img/superfly_obsidian_coast.qss
[19:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> awesomesauce
[19:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> thanks
[19:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> and obsidian coast is nice too
[19:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> much easier on the old retinas :)
[19:27] <inetpro> good morning Kilos
[19:27] <Kilos> ohi inetpro wb
[19:28] <inetpro> Kilos: good to see you surviving
[19:28] <Kilos> onkruid vergaan nie
[19:29] <inetpro> ai!
[19:29] <Kilos> hehe hoe gaan dit boetie
[19:30] <inetpro> going well thanks, just gonna be busy for quite some time
[19:31] <Kilos> yeah well dont stay away from here all that time
[19:31] <inetpro> way to many changes at once
[19:31] <Kilos> hows the setting up going
[19:31] <inetpro> IMHO going very well 
[19:31] <inetpro> but there are still a number of loose strings
[19:32] <Kilos> ah well youll sort it im sure
[19:32] <inetpro> need to tie them together before I can say that I'm happy
[19:43] <Kilos> oh my splits again
[19:46] <Kilos> inetpro, im even using xubuntu now as well
[19:46] <inetpro> wow!
[19:46] <inetpro> and? how is it?
[19:47] <Kilos> only xchat had no sound but otherwise good
[19:47]  * inetpro really need to get 8ta 10G this weekend
[19:48] <Kilos> they got 12.04 sorted out lekker now
[19:48] <Kilos> whew
[19:48] <inetpro> I run out of bundle way to quickly these days
[19:48] <Kilos> what eats all your data
[19:48]  * inetpro running on a terrible vodacom connection at the mo
[19:48] <Kilos> too many movies
[19:49] <inetpro> Kilos: not even
[19:49] <Kilos> ai!
[19:49] <Kilos> lekker to have you back though
[19:49] <inetpro> it's the odd youtube video here or there but otherwise mail and web stuffs
[19:50] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:53] <inetpro> Kilos: one trouble that I have is that as the kids grow older they also need more bandwidth
[19:54] <Kilos> oh ya
[19:54] <inetpro> and with smartphones et all it really becomes a mission to keep everyone on the right track 
[19:55] <Kilos> yeah it would
[19:56] <Kilos> i gotta go sleep now
[19:56] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:56] <inetpro> nag oom Kilos
[19:56] <Kilos> nag inetpro alle voorspoed aan jou
[19:56] <inetpro> thanks
[20:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> night night all