[00:00] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: funny that the snd_hda_intel is in there 3 times ...
[00:00] <awm10> Biomechd > What error do you get when trying to access the folder on the Windows computer over the network with Nautilus (the file manager) on your Ubuntu computer?
[00:01] <calimero_82> hey guys
[00:01] <calimero_82> my audio doensn't work
[00:01] <BluesKaj> mr-rich, snd-intel is listed twice , so do you have just one soundcard ?  the onboard intel as default , which would be card0
[00:01] <calimero_82> i've ubu 12.10
[00:01] <Biomechd> awm10: i'll have to go turn it on quick.
[00:02] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: it's stuck on "Analog Stereo Duplex" in system settings ... can't changed it to anything else ... always reverts back
[00:02] <awm10> Okay.
[00:03] <calimero_82> I can not hear anything
[00:03] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: I saw that ... there's also a Juniper card in system settings, but I have that set to off ... the Intel HDA is the onboard sound ...
[00:03] <BluesKaj> mr-rich, card0 is default, ok  do you have pavucontrol installed ?, it can control the inputs and otputs of the soundcard
[00:03] <elisa87> how should I set this zero? (, please set /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope to 0) like set /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope=0
[00:04] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: yes ... pavucontrol up and running ...
[00:05] <BluesKaj> check yoir output settings tab there , mr-rich
[00:06] <elisa87> how can I set /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope to 0?
[00:06] <tipox> Hello ive tried using, sudo apt-get install mysql-server in ubuntu 12.04 and it doesnt prompt for root passwd?
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> tipox: Did you use sudo in the same terminal session?
[00:08] <tipox> Yes, as root user
[00:08] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: has "Built in Audio Analog Stereo" and "front left" and "Front Right" and two sliders ...keeps fluctuating between "Analog Output" and "Headphones" in  time with the clicks and pops I'm hearing ...
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> tipox: It won't ask again unless you exited from a root@machine:~# prompt.
[00:09] <tipox> so i have to install mysql, non root ?
[00:09] <yashwant> nay one know how to access ntfs partition without root password.
[00:09] <tipox> sorry my english not good
[00:10] <yashwant> anay one know how to access ntfs partition without root password
[00:10] <eric2_> Is there a slick way to convert GPT to MBR for a 3rd partition on a Linux machine on which I want to run Win7?
[00:10] <BluesKaj> mr-rich, add this to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, options snd-hda-intel model=auto , with root permissions , the save the file , you
[00:10] <BluesKaj> have to reboot
[00:10] <SonikkuAmerica> tipox: No, you just use the same command and it won't ask for the password but executes as normal.
[00:11] <tipox> ill pastebin
[00:11] <tipox> ok
[00:11] <SonikkuAmerica> tipox: Unless you exited from a root@machine:~# prompt or closed the terminal session down.
[00:12] <yashwant> how to privide accessiblity of ntfs drive for normal users in Linux
[00:12] <tipox> http://pastebin.com/Zdn3N3xj
[00:12] <tipox> that is what im doing, SonikkuAmerica
[00:13] <SonikkuAmerica> tipox: OK... it's all set then.
[00:13] <tipox> it didnt prompt, me for to enter its root passwd
[00:13] <tipox> ?
[00:14] <SonikkuAmerica> tipox: Because you're currently in a root prompt, root can do whatever it wants. See the following:
[00:14] <BluesKaj> yashwant, normal users should have access if the drive is shared
[00:14] <SonikkuAmerica> !root | tipox
[00:14] <tipox> how do i access, and change mysql root passwd
[00:14] <tipox> then?
[00:14] <yashwant> BluesKaj:but without sharing root password how normal user acccess
[00:15] <BluesKaj> yashwant, read only ?
[00:16] <yashwant> BluesKaj: but it is not accessible it is asking for the password while clicking ntfs drive.
[00:16] <SonikkuAmerica> tipox: Why would you want to? The idea behind sudo'ing stuff is that you only use it when you absolutely need to (such as installing software or editing system configurations(.
[00:16] <SonikkuAmerica> *)
[00:16] <tipox> im wanting, mysql installed for wordpress
[00:16] <tipox> follow?
[00:17] <SonikkuAmerica> mysql | tipox, read this
[00:17] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: Update: I changed something on the input and clicks and pops have stopped ...
[00:17] <Biomechd> awm10: i can't seem to access the windows machine at all.
[00:17] <SonikkuAmerica> !mysql | tipox, read this
[00:17] <lmat> I'm trying to use ssh to connect to a remote computer.
[00:17] <SonikkuAmerica> tipox: This is probably a better version of what you want anyway.
[00:17] <jpds> lmat: Alright.
[00:17] <Biomechd> i mean, i can log in to the computer itself, but it's not showing up in the network.
[00:17] <lmat> How can I ensure that ssh is reading my public key?
[00:17] <lmat> I put the private key on the remote.
[00:18] <jpds> lmat: Well, that's not going to work.
[00:18] <somsip> lmat: no - public key on the remote. Never share a private key
[00:18] <jpds> lmat: You're suppose to put your public key there.
[00:18] <lmat> my mistake :)
[00:18] <lmat> I actually shared the public and I have the private.
[00:18] <dr_willis> i just know  enough to use the 'ssh-copy-id' command.   ;)
[00:19] <somsip> lmat: ssh -vvv will give you some helpful output. Maybe just -vv.
[00:19] <awm10> Biomechd > In Nautilus on your Ubuntu computer, the Windows computer isn't listed in the Network area?
[00:19] <Biomechd> yes, that's correct
[00:19] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: saved file ... reboot?
[00:19] <BluesKaj> yashwant, sudo chown -R (user name) /dev/(device name)
[00:19] <lmat> I'm trying and it says Permission denied (publickey)
[00:20] <BluesKaj> mr-rich, yes it's better than forcing alsa to reload
[00:20] <lmat> somsip: Thanks!
[00:20] <somsip> lmat: are you connecting with the right username?
[00:20] <yashwant> BluesKaj, i have use this one unable to change the owner, it is not effecting for ntfs drive.
[00:20] <lmat> somsip: I think so. It's the same username that I used to create the keys.
[00:21] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: kk ... brb ...
[00:21] <awm10> Biomechd > Have you tried right click > sharing options... a folder on your Windows computer?
[00:21] <Biomechd> awm10: no, i haven't yet
[00:21] <awm10> Biomechd: Can you do that?
[00:22] <somsip> lmat: more importantly, is it the same as the account on the remote computer. Eg: I'm signed in as mark@local but I might connect to ubuntu@remote. So the public key needs to be saved in /home/ubuntu/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote
[00:22] <dr_willis> i really wish they would make some sort of 'samba setup wizard/trouble shooter' for ubuntu to help people setup  shares on a mixed lan.
[00:22] <somsip> lmat: connecting as mark@remote will not work
[00:23] <BluesKaj> yashwant, then the owner has set the hdd to access only with password
[00:23] <Biomechd> awm10: i'll see if i can
[00:24] <yashwant> BluesKaj, my partition is sda i know the password for normal user what i can change so they can access without knowing the password.
[00:25] <BitNova> Hi can anyone tell me where the install dir of Bitcoin-QT is on ubuntu 13.04? i cannot seem to link it to the Armory. please help
[00:26] <BluesKaj> yashwant, do you think that's wise , you need a pw and other users don't ?
[00:26] <Biomechd> awm10: i'm not seeing the ability to share stuff with computers on my network, aside from a homegroup, which i don't have.
[00:26] <awm10> I believe it would be a homegroup.
[00:28] <yashwant> BluesKaj:, see if i will share the admin password any one change the functionality, i want without asking authintication how normal user can access that partition.
[00:28] <awm10> If you're having trouble sharing a folder on your Windows computer, you could try sharing a folder on your Ubuntu computer.
[00:28] <isaacs_01> quit
[00:29] <BluesKaj> yashwant, are you talking about network access to the drive or access directly from your pc , then give read only permission in the drive properties >permissions
[00:29] <BitNova> anyone?
[00:30] <trism> BitNova: dpkg -L bitcoin-qt;
[00:31] <eric2_> Anyone on with experience doing dual boot with win7 on a non-UEFI machine?
[00:31] <yashwant> BluesKaj:, in my system there is a windows partation also and that is in linux access only by the root password or we can change using ntfs-config software, but without ntfs-config software how we can give the accessability.
[00:31] <BitNova> trism, thank you.. i saw the list of packages.. but it doesnt seem to list the bitcoin daemon anywhere...
[00:31] <BitNova> :/
[00:32] <trism> BitNova: perhaps in the bitcoind package?
[00:32] <trism> BitNova: dpkg -L bitcoind;
[00:32] <BitNova> ive only installed bitcoin-qt
[00:33] <lmat> It looks like perhaps my ssh is sending the private key rather than the public key?
[00:34] <elisa87> how can I disable nmi_watchdog interrupt?
[00:34] <fractaline> eric2_,  what is your question?
[00:34] <somsip> lmat: it should use the private key to create a token to support the connection, then the server uses the public key to decode that and send it back. If they match, the client continues with the connection. AIUI
[00:34] <lmat> ssh -v -p port ipaddress     shows     "Offering RSA public key: [path to private key]"
[00:34] <BluesKaj> yashwant,  as suggested earlier by awm10 , use homegroup in nautilus network options
[00:35] <lmat> somsip: Should it be asking for my password somewhere in there?
[00:35] <BitNova> im a newbie, so it seems like bitcoind is needed for Armory to work trism .  i only had bitcoin-qt and it worked alright on its own.
[00:35] <somsip> lmat: ssh -vv -p port user@ipaddress
[00:35] <somsip> lmat: unless your local user and remote user have the same name
[00:35] <lmat> somsip: How do I tell what my remote user name is?
[00:36] <somsip> lmat: if you have entered a passkey for your private key it should ask for it, yes
[00:36] <BluesKaj> yashwant, or workgroup
[00:36] <somsip> lmat: whatever login you should be using on the remote server. eg: ubuntu@remote
[00:36] <lmat> wrong username.
[00:36] <BitNova> ok trism thanks.. seems like uve helped me identify  that bitcoind was missing
[00:36] <lmat> Apparently the remote username is "root" not my user name
[00:36] <lmat> thanks much somsip !!
[00:37] <somsip> lmat: <insert warning about allowing root access over ssh here>
[00:37] <somsip> lm you got a connection?
[00:37] <somsip> lmat: ^^
[00:37] <lmat> fo sho
[00:37] <somsip> lmat: cool
[00:37] <lmat> somsip: "man uname ... -sh: man: not found" :(
[00:37] <lmat> somsip: It's a router.
[00:37] <bfig> hello, i'm having trouble connecting to an ssl openvpn connection. I have a config file but it doesn't seem to work
[00:37] <somsip> lmat: can't help you with that...
[00:39] <lmat> somsip: No help needed :) I was justifying the root thing :)
[00:39] <somsip> lmat: k - got you
[00:42] <benzrf> hello!
[00:42] <benzrf> has anybody here ever had issues with skype
[00:42] <benzrf> 's window being invisible?
[00:44] <somsip> benzrf: FWIW, new version of Skype was released yesterday but you need to install manually not through the repo
[00:44] <benzrf> dang
[00:44] <somsip> benzrf: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/skype-42-for-linux-released-with-minor.html
[00:44] <benzrf> thanks :D
[00:45] <somsip> benzrf: working fine here, but I didn't really have any problems with 4.1 either
[00:46] <benzrf> it only started a little ago... .-.
[00:46] <somsip> benzrf: a common 'fix' for skype problems is to delete ~/.Skype You lose your history log and have to log in again, but it might be worth doing if you have no other options
[00:47] <benzrf> stupid POS nonfree centralized unreliable software
[00:47] <benzrf> how the hell did it get such a foothold
[00:47] <benzrf> T_T
[00:47] <Ben64> stop using it then
[00:48] <benzrf> can't, all my friends are on it so I need it to talk to them
[00:48] <benzrf> -.-
[00:49] <zykotick9> help the police... use skype
[00:50] <benzrf> bwa ha ha
[00:51] <benzrf> thanks anyway I suppose
[00:51] <benzrf> (:
[01:02] <liam_> Hi guys..
[01:02] <mnewton> How do i get a random sample of 5 files in a directory
[01:04] <Guest58036> I have a problem: I was dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu 12.10; decided to do full wipe and install new ubuntu 13.04. the problem, is that the software centre is bloody awful. Most of the apps are gone!! NO skype, no linkedin, no Google+.....what gives???
[01:05] <awm10> Google+ is a website?
[01:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest58036: Did you remember to enable ALL the repos?
[01:05] <ElysiumNet> is there a reason why ubuntu refuses to start a service on boot?
[01:06] <Guest58036> its an app
[01:06] <ElysiumNet> I can't seem to find a log where they would refuse to start
[01:06] <ElysiumNet> I've also tried putting it in /etc/rc.local but to no avail
[01:06] <Guest58036> there was a software centre in 12.10, but the one i got for 13.04 is fairly empty
[01:06] <awm10> On a kinda unrelated note, make sure you install ubuntu-restricted-extras so you can play different media files and stuff.
[01:07] <awm10> If you're on a new Ubuntu install, you'll want to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs after installing ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[01:08] <Guest58036> awn, thanks will do
[01:09] <awm10> Guest58036 > Here's Skype: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/raring/skype/
[01:09] <Guest58036> alright...that is not in my software centre
[01:09] <Guest58036> what gives?
[01:09] <_PehdeN_> #moshpit everyone is +O
[01:10] <Guest58036> "there isnt a package called Skype in your current software sources"
[01:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest58036: [ sudo apt-get install skype ]
[01:11] <SonikkuAmerica> End of story.
[01:11] <OerHeks> eneble partner repo, i guess
[01:11] <Guest58036> enable partner repo...how do i do that?
[01:12] <Guest58036> i have a problem with my software source
[01:12] <Ben64> no... you don't
[01:12] <awm10> You're right, I clicked the link and I don't see Skype either.
[01:13] <Guest58036> mad, eh?
[01:13] <Guest58036> so maybe i am not linked to correct repo
[01:13] <Ben64> skype is not in the ubuntu repositories
[01:13] <Guest58036> how does one "enable partner repo"
[01:14] <awm10> Maybe MS removed Skype from the repo or something.
[01:14] <awm10> http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/
[01:14] <awm10> The 12.04 version should work.
[01:14] <Guest58036> yea, but loads of stuff is missing on 13.04 version
[01:14] <awm10> Either that, or you could download the "dynamic" version, unpack it, and run it.
[01:15] <Ben64> Guest58036: nope
[01:15] <awm10> What else are you missing?
[01:15] <Guest58036> google+
[01:15] <Ben64> you probably had PPAs on your previous install
[01:15] <Guest58036> linkedin
[01:15] <ElysiumNet> why the hell is ubuntu refusing to start several very specific services
[01:15] <ElysiumNet> could someone ander me that
[01:15] <Ben64> unity-webapps-linkedin unity-webapps-googleplus
[01:15] <awm10> Do you mean you had a Linked'n web app in your launcher?
[01:16] <Guest58036> yes
[01:16] <awm10> I think Ben64's answer is what you're looking for.
[01:16] <Ben64> ElysiumNet: nobody can answer with the information you are providing
[01:16] <ElysiumNet> Ben64: and I am getting no information on where to start looking
[01:16] <ElysiumNet> grep -i -r 'servicename' /var/log/* isn't doing much for me either
[01:17] <Guest58036> unity...and? where, what?
[01:17] <Ben64> !details | ElysiumNet
[01:17] <ElysiumNet> how am I supposed to give the details if I don't have the details!
[01:17] <Ben64> then its hopeless
[01:17] <ElysiumNet> reboot - service is not starting, I don't know where to look
[01:17] <ElysiumNet> and it all started happening after an update
[01:18] <Ben64> how is anyone supposed to help you if you aren't saying anything
[01:18] <ElysiumNet> Ben64: ... I have said this about 5 times now
[01:18] <Guest58036> I still have bloody amazon, which is a launcher i dont want
[01:18] <awm10> Guest58036 > You could also use Google Chrome and Tools > make app shortcut..
[01:18] <Ben64> ElysiumNet: no, you're saying generic stuff that could mean anything
[01:18] <Guest58036> yea, but the apps were nice ben.
[01:18] <ElysiumNet> Ben64: and I am asking where I should look since there are no logs in any of the logs about the services having any errors
[01:18] <ElysiumNet> they run just fine when I manually invoke them
[01:18] <_PehdeN_>  /msg chanserv FLAGS #moshpit +O *!*@*
[01:18] <ElysiumNet> but they won't start when I reboot the machine
[01:19] <Ben64> ElysiumNet: maybe try #mindreaders? we're not clairvoyant here
[01:19] <ElysiumNet> and the upstart files are in /etc/init.d/ and they are registered and show up with both chkconfig and update-rc.d tells me they are installed
[01:19] <ElysiumNet> ......
[01:19] <ElysiumNet> is this enough detail yet?
[01:19] <Ben64> no
[01:19] <ElysiumNet> GRAAHH
[01:19] <ElysiumNet> then what do you want/need!
[01:19] <awm10> When I log in, I hold down the Super key and run my finger along the number keys to start all my launchers.
[01:19] <Ben64> ElysiumNet: for starters, what are you trying to run? big detail there you never mentioned
[01:20] <zykotick9> ElysiumNet: fyi init.d is NOT upstart... just sayin'
[01:20] <ElysiumNet> zykotick9: the scripts inside init.d aren't upstart?
[01:20] <ElysiumNet> er, /etc/init/
[01:20] <zykotick9> ElysiumNet: NO.  yes /etc/init/ IS upstart
[01:20] <ElysiumNet> nginx, mysql and php5-fpm won't start upon boot. there are no errors
[01:21] <ElysiumNet> rc.local also doesn't get executed
[01:21] <Guest58036> ok, i see this thing about unity.
[01:21] <awm10> Nice.
[01:22] <Guest58036> yes, the apps are there, its just a case of looking for them. shame the logos are missing
[01:22] <ramon> hello everyone
[01:23] <ElysiumNet> running these services manually works just fine
[01:24] <Ben64> check in /var/log/upstart/
[01:25] <ElysiumNet> Ben64: no errors
[01:25] <awm10> Can someone point me to good documentation for how to make a .deb file, or a program that'll help me package my application?
[01:25] <Ben64> ElysiumNet: all the stuff you mentioned should be auto starting, you must have done something wonky
[01:26] <ElysiumNet> Ben64: yes, updating ubuntu
[01:26] <awm10> The developer.ubuntu.com example isn't very helpful: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/packaging-new-software.html#starting-a-package
[01:26] <ElysiumNet> everything was working fine until I did that
[01:26] <Ben64> define "updating"
[01:26] <ElysiumNet> apt-get update apt-get upgrade
[01:27] <Ben64> ElysiumNet: try setting a static ip and rebooting
[01:27] <ElysiumNet> it already has a static IP
[01:28] <ElysiumNet> other network services work just fine
[01:29] <ElysiumNet> like fail2ban and proftpd
[01:29] <Ben64> try jobs-admin
[01:30] <Guest58036> lads...you wont believe this, but it think i might not have updated the system after installing. Lord, I am embarrassed
[01:30] <ElysiumNet> cron doesn't seem to be running either.....
[01:31] <DrFoo> does the openvpn package contain the client or server?
[01:32] <Guest58036> sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:33] <Guest58036> after, sudo apt-get update
[01:33] <ElysiumNet> Ben64: why does that package need so many dependencies...
[01:34] <Guest58036> this has solved my software problems after fresh install of 13.04; sudo apt-get update
[01:35] <Guest58036> then, sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:35] <ElysiumNet> that's the last time I update an ubuntu installation...
[01:37] <dr_willis> cant recall last time i had update/upgrade/dist-upgrade issues..
[01:37] <Ben64> ElysiumNet: then you'll be opening yourself up to security problems
[01:37] <ElysiumNet> Ben64: as if breaking the entire installation by doing an update is less worse
[01:37] <Ben64> it's probably something else
[01:37] <ElysiumNet> ....jobs-admin is a GTK-based tool.... I'm SSHing into the box
[01:37] <ElysiumNet> I can't use this
[01:38] <dr_willis> you caan use ssh and x forwarding.
[01:38] <ElysiumNet> dr_willis: yes, let me install X on a server...
[01:38] <Ben64> what version of ubuntu
[01:38] <dr_willis> ElysiumNet:   go ahead..
[01:39] <ElysiumNet> dr_willis: not going to happen
[01:39] <dr_willis> or just rant more..
[01:39] <ElysiumNet> Ben64: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[01:39] <dr_willis> sounds like somthing in upstart is seriously messed up if rc.local is suddendly not running at boot along woith all those other services
[01:40] <ElysiumNet> nginx, mysql, rc.local, cron and php5-fpm aren't working
[01:40] <ElysiumNet> on boot
[01:40] <Ben64> i update my 12.04 server all the time and everything works fine
[01:40] <ElysiumNet> I've updated on the day that the nginx vulnerability was patched
[01:40] <Ben64> i would have to say it's user error
[01:40] <ElysiumNet> and since then everything has gone to crap
[01:40] <ElysiumNet> yes, apt-get upgrade is an user error. I made the mistake of updating
[01:40] <dr_willis> start with basic tests.. try sshing in and doing a 'sudo service cron' start  and see if it starts
[01:40] <ElysiumNet> that all works fine
[01:40]  * dr_willis is done trying to help.
[01:40] <Ben64> i mean PPAs or weird modifications
[01:40] <ElysiumNet> service cron start works
[01:41] <ElysiumNet> service nginx start works
[01:41] <ElysiumNet> php5-fpm, mysql works
[01:41] <ElysiumNet> it just won't run on startup
[01:42] <ElysiumNet> proftpd for some reason runs, though
[01:42] <ElysiumNet> it's the only one with a script only in /etc/init.d/
[01:43] <Ben64> ElysiumNet: what runlevel are you in? and what runlevels will cron start in? (cat /etc/init/cron.conf)
[01:43] <ElysiumNet> how do I determine the runlevel?
[01:43] <Ben64> type "runlevel"
[01:43] <ElysiumNet> N 2
[01:44] <ElysiumNet> I do not see a runlevel declaration in /etc/init.d/cron
[01:44] <Ben64> thats not where i said
[01:44] <ElysiumNet> in /etc/init/cron it's [2345]
[01:46] <ElysiumNet> could bluetoothd be screwing things up?
[01:48] <ElysiumNet> I swear if it was the bluetooth service, I am going to break stuff
[01:49] <ElysiumNet> oh, apparently disabling bluetooth killed off proftpd
[01:49] <ElysiumNet> Ben64: okay, when doing 'runlevel' right after a reboot, it says unknown
[01:50] <Ben64> weird
[01:50] <icedwater> So, I've got gnome-screensaver back in and it still doesn't ask for my password on -command -la invocation.
[01:51] <icedwater> Does that maybe have anything to do with the fact that I'm a live user on a persistent USB?
[01:52] <Ben64> ElysiumNet: try "sudo init 2" and see if all the services start
[01:52] <ElysiumNet> Ben64: is there a command to reinstall the kernel?
[01:52] <ElysiumNet> Ben64: yes, that works
[01:52] <Ben64> ElysiumNet: ok, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[01:52] <ElysiumNet> can I censor the IP's?
[01:53] <ElysiumNet> and which pastebin service
[01:53] <dr_willis> icedwater:  i dident think the live user had a password to begin with..  or did you create one?
[01:53] <Ben64> ElysiumNet: yeah censor is fine, and any
[01:54] <lasko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/   <<-----
[01:54] <lasko> Thats a good start :)
[01:55] <ElysiumNet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5688990/
[01:55] <ElysiumNet> ah crap, why can't I delete it
[01:59] <Ben64> ElysiumNet: a solution, but not a good one, would be to set the stuff to run under an unknown runlevel
[01:59] <ElysiumNet> so you're saying the networking file is correct?
[02:00] <Ben64> yeah
[02:01] <ElysiumNet> well...
[02:01] <ElysiumNet> Ben64: I commented out the ipv6 bit...
[02:02] <ElysiumNet> take a guess
[02:04] <ElysiumNet> and the rest besides the first one...
[02:04] <icedwater> dr_willis: I did before.
[02:04] <ElysiumNet> seems to be an issue with setting up aliases?
[02:04] <icedwater> It should be retained, right? Given that there's persistent storage and all.
[02:05] <Jordan_U> icedwater: Try "su $(whoami)" and check that it asks for a password.
[02:06] <dr_willis> icedwater:  i think so.  but ive found once you take a live+persistant setup and start adding/changeing lots of things.. they can get quirky. i normally do full installs to usb flash drives  if im going to do a lot of work with the flash drive
[02:07] <icedwater> dr_willis: Jordan_U thanks, I'll check.
[02:08] <ElysiumNet> Ben64: are network, broadcast and network neccesary?
[02:08] <icedwater> Jordan_U: it does take a password.
[02:08] <supersecond> hello, i just installed ubuntu 12.04 but i'm not able to change the date and time. everytime i try to it reverts back.
[02:09] <roothorick> I'm testing out two Hauppauge tuner cards, one analog, one analog+digital combo. I can't for the life of me find an app that actually reads the analog TV.
[02:10] <ElysiumNet> Ben64: apparently that was the problem
[02:10] <ElysiumNet> network and gateway were not neccesary
[02:11] <Wickx> do you lot in here talk about ubuntu?
[02:12] <dr_willis> Wickx:  ubuntu support in here. ubuntu chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:12] <Jordan_U> icedwater: What is the output of "whoami"?
[02:14] <daftykins> roothorick: is there any analogue TV still broadcast where you are? :D
[02:15] <Wickx> well i was being sarcastic because it seems other people in other topic related channels dont talk about the topic they're meant to
[02:15] <Wickx> or at least they refuse to
[02:15] <Wickx> which is annoying
[02:15] <roothorick> daftykins: not broadcast. Cable.
[02:16] <daftykins> that's still broadcasting i thought
[02:16] <roothorick> when you say broadcast I think OTA
[02:16] <daftykins> ja, the medium doesn't matter though
[02:16] <icedwater> Jordan_U: ubuntu.
[02:16] <roothorick> well, tvtime doesn't work at all :/
[02:18] <Compy2> In Ubuntu 12.04 (stock kernel), is there a way to run a process at the highest priority? I edited /etc/security/limits.conf and set root's niceness to -20, and I am sending data over a parallel port that requires a minimum of 2ms response time, and even running the process at -20 niceness (according to top) doesn't seem to do it.
[02:18] <daftykins> wouldn't a low latency kernel help?
[02:18] <Compy2> Like rtlinux?
[02:19] <daftykins> ja
[02:19] <Compy2> That'd be the obvious choice I suppose.
[02:19] <SonikkuAmerica> daftykins: linux-rt doesn't exist rt now
[02:19] <SonikkuAmerica> *oh bad sic
[02:19] <SonikkuAmerica> However, if you get linux-image-lowlatency it might help
[02:20] <daftykins> your advice should really be aimed at the person asking, not the person helping
[02:20] <SonikkuAmerica> daftykins: Guilty party aquí
[02:20] <daftykins> ;)
[02:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Compy2: Get linux-*-lowlatency
[02:21] <Compy2> daftykins and SonikkuAmerica, I'll go check out some of those. I just wasn't sure at this point if there was anything else I could do short of modifying the scheduler :)
[02:21] <Compy2> Yeah, sounds like the way to go.
[02:21] <SonikkuAmerica> However, FYI, the Ubuntu Studio team is looking into getting linux-rt back for 14.04 LTS
[02:21] <WeThePeople> headphone work some times other times they dont, any ideas
[02:21] <SonikkuAmerica> WeThePeople: USB headphones?
[02:22] <WeThePeople> sonikkuamerica, no miniplug
[02:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh. Dunno about miniplug.
[02:26] <pr0_t4njung> anyone using ubuntu 13?
[02:27] <daftykins> just ask away if you have a question, someone will answer
[02:27] <roothorick> "Unable to find frequency"... what.
[02:28] <aaronisfine> hi
[02:28] <aaronisfine> how can i mannually install eclipse plugins
[02:29] <aaronisfine> I unzip the plugin into /usr/share/eclipse/dropins/
[02:29] <pr0_t4njung> @@@@
[02:31] <needtonsofhelp> hello!
[02:31] <needtonsofhelp> i need tons of help!
[02:32] <icedwater> So ask your questions, one pound at a time.
[02:32] <needtonsofhelp> lol
[02:32] <needtonsofhelp> here goes
[02:32] <needtonsofhelp> im running ubuntu 12
[02:32] <needtonsofhelp> dual boot
[02:32] <needtonsofhelp> with windows 7 64
[02:32] <needtonsofhelp> today, windows wouldnt boot
[02:33] <Ben64> sounds like you want ##windows
[02:33] <needtonsofhelp> i chose recovery option in grub, then cancelled figuring i can backup everything off the partition
[02:33] <leewees> how do i mount my encrypted home fs from livecd?
[02:33] <needtonsofhelp> through ubuntu
[02:33] <needtonsofhelp> at reboot, hit grub rescue
[02:33] <WeThePeople> chown
[02:33] <WeThePeople> chroot
[02:33] <icedwater> needtonsofhelp: you know what, one tip on IRC is not to use the enter key as punctuation. :P
[02:33] <needtonsofhelp> in grub rescue, im unable to ls (hdx,y)/ to gain results
[02:33] <WeThePeople> you could use --bind options as well
[02:33] <needtonsofhelp> sorry iced water
[02:34] <icedwater> It -is- normally similar to an IM, but here we want to see things as compact as possible so as to be able to help better.
[02:34] <pbt> !emacs
[02:34] <icedwater> No, it's not a problem, it's just something I thought I should point out to you.
[02:35] <needtonsofhelp> noted. so grub resuce isnt listing file system as it should, my 2nd partition is mia, and im stuck without a boot (unkown file system error for all)
[02:36] <icedwater> So, do you have the disc you originally used to install Ubuntu?
[02:36] <daftykins> needtonsofhelp: pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l' from a livecd to see what the disk looks like
[02:36] <johnjohn101> ha new skype.  wondering if it works with ubunut.
[02:36] <Ben64> needtonsofhelp: so is ubuntu not booting either?
[02:36] <daftykins> johnjohn101: i want to try an ubu nut.
[02:36] <needtonsofhelp> nope. on vacation. no boot, simply to boot error and not reading partitions so cant find boot directory
[02:36] <icedwater> daftykins: Canonical sells them for $2 a packet, I think 200 grams each...
[02:36] <icedwater> They're a South African delicacy.
[02:37] <needtonsofhelp> i get nothing, i double checked the boot sequence and its hitting the hd, listing the partitions, just not recognizing any of them
[02:37] <daftykins> icedwater: 200g a nut or a packet?
[02:37] <leewees> how do i mount my encrypted home fs from livecd?
[02:37] <icedwater> daftykins: Depends on which flavour you buy, I hear the mint one is pretty popular.
[02:38] <daftykins> needtonsofhelp: can you boot the liveCD / flash drive you installed from and pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l' anyway to see what it reads?
[02:38] <daftykins> icedwater: must've been after the bad batch of unity packet i guess
[02:38] <needtonsofhelp> unfortunately, no usb here, even hit up other tourists, and no live cd
[02:38] <icedwater> needtonsofhelp: Hold on... let me see
[02:38] <needtonsofhelp> download speed is hideiously capped
[02:39] <needtonsofhelp> i can get an iso by next year lol
[02:39] <Ben64> needtonsofhelp: how are you on irc then
[02:39] <icedwater> OK, for a moment there I thought you asked random tourists if they had an Ubuntu install disk :P
[02:39] <SonikkuAmerica> needtonsofhelp: Going approx as fast as NYC traffic maybe? :)
[02:39] <icedwater> IRC needs next to 0 download speed, Ben64.
[02:39] <Ben64> i mean with no OS
[02:39] <icedwater> True, missed that.
[02:40] <needtonsofhelp> irc works great here on a borrowed netbook
[02:40]  * icedwater wanders off to buy a packet of Ubunuts.
[02:40] <icedwater> Ah, OK. So downloading through this netbook isn't an option because it would take forever.
[02:41] <needtonsofhelp> correct. is there no other way through grub rescue? ive tried the old ls (hd0,msdos1)/ to all unknown filesystem errors
[02:41] <Ben64> looks like you're on vacation in miami, you must be able to find a flash drive and an ubuntu image
[02:41] <needtonsofhelp> on a boat
[02:41] <Ben64> also, its (hd0,1)
[02:41] <needtonsofhelp> =)
[02:42] <icedwater> Ben64: thanks, was riffling through stacks of /etc to find the line.
[02:42] <CrusaderAD> Anyone with some ethernet expertise out there?
[02:42] <needtonsofhelp> skip the msdos and just hit the number?
[02:42] <Ben64> CrusaderAD: millions
[02:43] <Ben64> needtonsofhelp: hd0 = first drive 0=first partition
[02:43] <userZ> why is the screen brighter in some versions of ubuntu?
[02:43] <daftykins> needtonsofhelp: er how did you install ubuntu then if you don't have install media?
[02:43] <icedwater> needtonsofhelp: yeah, hd0,1 is your sda2 I think.
[02:43] <Ben64> so it depends on what your setup is, could be hd0,0 or hd3,2 or something else
[02:43] <CrusaderAD> I have an issue where the I don't get an IP... it just says connecting constantly
[02:43] <icedwater> daftykins: he
[02:43] <cappicard> Guest40874, do NOT connect to irc as root!
[02:44] <icedwater> daftykins: he is on holiday at the moment, doesn't have access to his install media :P
[02:44] <needtonsofhelp> no media, going to rey to skip the msdos in the command
[02:44] <icedwater> Sorry, missed the apostrophe.
[02:44] <daftykins> icedwater: ah, installed before leaving
[02:44] <CrusaderAD> The thread with everything spelled out is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147385 any help would be appreciated :)
[02:44] <needtonsofhelp> this system has been dual boot some form of ubuntu since i got it =)
[02:44] <daftykins> needtonsofhelp: well, sorry to be captain hindsight but don't install OS's then leave home XD
[02:45] <icedwater> daftykins: Ha! Captain Hindsight.
[02:45] <Ben64> i always bring my tools with me. usb drive, cds of various tools
[02:45] <daftykins> icedwater: yeah it's a great character
[02:46] <daftykins> Ben64: i hear ya.
[02:46] <daftykins> i was roadtripping the US when a taxi driver who i think was toking on weed asked me about whether he should install case fans in a PC he'd just built
[02:46] <daftykins> moral of the story - you've gotta take your gameface wherever you go
[02:47] <johnjohn101> well did he need any case fans?
[02:47] <icedwater> needtonsofhelp: gonna reboot and try the hd0,1 bits?
[02:48] <needtonsofhelp> ran ls (hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1)
[02:48] <arcripex> any1 please help see screenshot http://postimg.org/image/q7q3lnaap/ my desktop is showing some annoyin white panel in gnome 3 fallback please help
[02:48] <needtonsofhelp> tried ls command with /, without/, with msdos, and only with numbers. error reads Unknown Filesystem
[02:48] <icedwater> Looks like you do need msdos then.
[02:49] <daftykins> johnjohn101: definitely
[02:49] <daftykins> i recommended an exhaust fan, always worth it
[02:49] <needtonsofhelp> I figured I needed the msdos in there, but it read with all the same results, should i try to add the boot after the slash as well?
[02:50] <Ben64> needtonsofhelp: http://i.imgur.com/auKggI6.jpg
[02:51] <needtonsofhelp> i get the Unknown Filesystem with no sector listings, nothing
[02:52] <Ben64> try hd1?
[02:52] <Jordan_U> needtonsofhelp: You chose the Windows recovery option?
[02:52] <needtonsofhelp> earlier, never passed the main screen, will try hd1 now
[02:52] <needtonsofhelp> hd1 cannot get C/H/S values
[02:53] <Jordan_U> needtonsofhelp: "ls" alone will list all drives and partitions.
[02:53] <Ben64> what did hd0 say?
[02:53] <needtonsofhelp> Unknown Filesystem
[02:53] <Ben64> oh cool, didn't know you could do ls by itself
[02:53] <needtonsofhelp> ran ls (hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1)
[02:53] <Ben64> needtonsofhelp: try just "ls"
[02:54] <needtonsofhelp> just posted my result
[02:54] <Ben64> oh
[02:54] <Jordan_U> needtonsofhelp: It sounds like the Windows recovery process did start somehow, and deleted your Ubuntu partition (and maybe your Windows one as well) completely. Did you have any data on this machine that you haven't backed up?
[02:54] <needtonsofhelp> (hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1)
[02:54] <daftykins> why does it think they're msdos partitions, heh :(
[02:54] <Ben64> its msdos partitions
[02:54] <needtonsofhelp> i am willing to lose the data, no idea why its reading everything as msdos
[02:54] <Jordan_U> daftykins: Because they're partitions on a msdos partition table, as opposed to a GUID partition table, or Apple Partition Map, or...
[02:55] <needtonsofhelp> ah
[02:55] <daftykins> Jordan_U: ah ok, GRUB talks about them in a non-FS way
[02:55] <dr_willis> msdos is the partion type. not the filesystem of the partition ;)
[02:55] <daftykins> fair enough
[02:55] <daftykins> i haven't ever been graced with any education with GRUB
[02:55] <daftykins> if it said MBR i'd have known
[02:56] <Jordan_U> daftykins: DOS's FS is FAT anyway, not "msdos".
[02:56] <daftykins> Jordan_U: yeah, you're getting patronising now... easy there ;)
[02:56] <Jordan_U> daftykins: But all disks have an MBR, so it's not a very good description of a type of partition table.
[02:56] <johnjohn101> how do you get the really nice grub on ubuntu that opensuse uses?
[02:56] <johnjohn101> yeah, i need to learn me some grub
[02:56] <icedwater> Me too, just not now :P
[02:57] <needtonsofhelp> lol
[02:57] <daftykins> well a >2.5TB odd disk with GPT doesn't really have an MBR i'd have thought - unless you mean in the most generic sense - 'a master boot record' i.e. pointer to what to boot
[02:57] <daftykins> but yeah, i've pursued that tangential thread a tad too far
[02:57] <Jordan_U> johnjohn101: "Really nice" in what way? Grub has theming (which Ubuntu doesn't use by default). Assuming that OpenSuSe uses grub2 you should be able to use their grub theme in Ubuntu.
[02:57] <needtonsofhelp> on boot: error:no such partition grub rescue>
[02:58] <needtonsofhelp> im assuming my partition was 2 for ubuntu, however wasnt there a recovery partition as well?
[02:58] <johnjohn101> Jordan_U: how does one do that?
[02:59] <Jordan_U> johnjohn101: Assuming they've done things the normal way, look for their grub theme directory in /boot/grub/, copy it to Ubuntu's /boot/grub/ and in /etc/default/grub add GRUB_THEME=/boot/grub/THEME_DIRECTORY_HERE/theme.txt, then run "sudo update-grub".
[02:59] <icedwater> needtonsofhelp: found it yet?
[03:00] <needtonsofhelp> icedwater got nothing amigo
[03:00] <johnjohn101> jordan_u: wondering why ubuntu doesn't do the themes
[03:01] <icedwater> To keep things as simple as possible is my bet.. I don't know though.
[03:01] <daftykins> needtonsofhelp: did you say you were in Florida? whereabouts?
[03:01] <Jordan_U> johnjohn101: Ubuntu hides the grub menu by default, and grub themes can slow down the grub menu (more or less depending on hardware, the theme, and the screen resolution).
[03:01] <needtonsofhelp> fort lauderdale area
[03:01] <daftykins> needtonsofhelp: anywhere near Ft. Lauderdale?
[03:01] <icedwater> Ha!
[03:01] <daftykins> needtonsofhelp: no freakin' way
[03:01] <needtonsofhelp> yup
[03:02] <icedwater> From IRC to IRL.
[03:02] <icedwater> Not bad.
[03:02] <needtonsofhelp> lol
[03:02] <icedwater> You gonna help on-site, daftykins? :P
[03:02] <daftykins> icedwater: i'm not in the US but someone in another channel is
[03:03] <Jordan_U> needtonsofhelp: Without any external boot media, or a way to put the internal hard drive into another computer, or an ethernet cable and someone with a computer that has a tftp server you can netboot from, you'll pretty much have to wait until you get off the boat to fix this.
[03:04] <needtonsofhelp> ok, so when i get a live cd i can run grub repair
[03:05] <dr_willis> tinycorelinux live cd is like a 20mb download ;)
[03:05] <daftykins> needtonsofhelp: this guy can give you some old CDs if you're game to go fetch them
[03:05] <Jordan_U> needtonsofhelp: It depends. If you no longer have an Ubuntu partition then fixing grub won't help you much.
[03:05] <needtonsofhelp> lol wish i had the capability to just jump out there
[03:06] <Jordan_U> needtonsofhelp: How strong of a swimmer are you?
[03:06] <daftykins> needtonsofhelp: are you near some landmark he'd know? at a net cafe did you say?
[03:06] <daftykins> or hostel or something
[03:07] <needtonsofhelp> ok, so now im assuming that just starting up the recovery probably had an affect, lost partition 4 which is ubuntu primary boot partition and now i need a reinstall to recover, which will allow me to access the other partitions and backup
[03:07] <needtonsofhelp> daftykins: you freakin rock. if you were here in lauderdale i would definitely buy you a drink =)
[03:07] <fang0654> Where does ubuntu store the startup information for multiple screens?
[03:08] <daftykins> needtonsofhelp: whereabouts more specifically are you? this guy i know says he's north of Lauderdale
[03:08] <userZ> why is ubuntu brighter than mint, and can that be adjusted?
[03:08] <Jordan_U> userZ: The screen backlight?
[03:08] <needtonsofhelp> east and travelling through canals
[03:08] <icedwater> fang0654: what does multiple screens?
[03:08] <needtonsofhelp> north is pompano and deerfield area
[03:09] <fang0654> icedwater: multiple x sessions - I have 2 gpus
[03:09] <icedwater> Jordan_U: I've been wondering the same thing, actually, I have to tone down the brightness at boot time on my laptop even though brightness is set to 0.
[03:09] <needtonsofhelp> icedwater: come to lauderdale amigo!
[03:09] <dr_willis> user can have monitor settings in their home directory, or the sysem an have xorg.conf define several monitors
[03:10] <fang0654> icedwater: I'm trying to get compiz to start on both at startup, but only seems to run on one of them
[03:10] <icedwater> fang0654: yep, so my first place would be to look in ~ for a .X_something_or_the_other
[03:11] <icedwater> Then maybe in /etc/
[03:11] <userZ> Jordan_U. yes the backlight, is that adjustable in ubuntu? and in mint?
[03:11] <icedwater> But if you're concerned about compiz, probably the compiz configuration is what you would prefer.
[03:11] <daftykins> needtonsofhelp: my good pal is west of pompano, "near St road 7/441" apparently - if you could get near there you could get a CD off him?
[03:12] <icedwater> needtonsofhelp: you steer the boat?
[03:12] <fang0654> icedwater: no luck.  I've got compiz configured fine, just getting it to startup on login
[03:12] <icedwater> Hmm, tough.
[03:12] <Jordan_U> userZ: Yes, it's possible to change the screen brightness. I'm working from Lubuntu at the moment so I don't have the same settings GUI, but it should be in "System Settings" somewhere.
[03:12] <needtonsofhelp> 7/441 is miles inland
[03:12] <userZ> ok
[03:13] <userZ> mint is really dim default
[03:13] <needtonsofhelp> well guys, you are very appreciated, however, i believe that this problem will require me to do more that grub rescue alone
[03:14] <icedwater> userZ: I prefer that, I am often momentarily blinded when I turn my laptop on at night, and then again when I log on to Ubuntu.
[03:14] <needtonsofhelp> icedwater: im the bar captain, you gotta go through me for booze
[03:14] <icedwater> needtonsofhelp: doesn't mean you can make the boat go ... oh right :P
[03:15] <userZ> icedwater, I sit several feet away from my monitor so I like it bright
[03:16] <daftykins> needtonsofhelp: sad face :( well good luck with it
[03:16] <makara> i've register with Ekiga, but I can't connect. How can I check that SIP ports are being forwarded by my company's router and that it's not just an Ekiga issue?
[03:17] <roothorick> how do I kill pulseaudio?
[03:18] <dr_willis> isent pulseaudio a servie you can stop?
[03:18] <dr_willis> service
[03:19] <Guest95155> My Software Updater is failing everytime I try to run it
[03:19] <Guest95155> does anyone else experience this problem?
[03:19] <lasko> What errors is it displaying?
[03:20] <Guest95155> "Failed to download repository information"
[03:20] <dr_willis> or fallback to the cli command to update/upgrade the system Guest95155  and look for any errors.
[03:20] <lasko> open a terminal and try  "sudo apt-get update"
[03:20] <lasko> it'll give more information
[03:21] <Guest95155> I tried the Terminal route but it came across the same three detailed errors:
[03:21] <Guest95155> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/chasedouglas/multitouch/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[03:21] <Guest95155> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/chasedouglas/multitouch/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[03:21] <Guest95155> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:22] <daftykins> Guest95155: those errors don't mean it didn't work at all
[03:22] <daftykins> Guest95155: just that those specific sources didn't work
[03:22] <userZ> Multisystem is a great little program for usb booting
[03:23] <Guest95155> correct, but I'd like it to actually install the updates, because all it has done is recognize them and download them
[03:23] <userZ> better than unetbootin or pendrivelinux imo
[03:23] <Guest95155> @ daftykins: it doesn't finish loading the application
[03:23] <dr_willis> those ppas are either down, or dont have quantal packages.. best idea would be to disable the ppas  Guest95155
[03:24] <lasko> ^
[03:24] <lasko> If you actually go to: ttp://ppa.launchpad.net/chasedouglas/multitouch/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not
[03:24] <lasko> you'll see the url doesn't resolve properly
[03:24] <lasko> hence your error
[03:24] <makara> or any suggestion on SIP alternatives to Skype, Ekiga?
[03:24] <dr_willis> i alwos have to wonder why you have the  64bit and 32bit ppas enabled
[03:24] <Guest95155> @ lasko: so how do I disable those connections
[03:24] <Guest95155> ?
[03:24] <daftykins> Guest95155: sure, but the errors you mention when done CLI aren't showstoppers. did you perform an upgrade via CLI?
[03:24] <lasko> edit your sources file
[03:24] <somsip> makara: I used jitsi for a while. Seemed ok
[03:25] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[03:25] <Guest95155> @ lasko: thanks
[03:25] <lasko> or comment them out --  /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:25] <dr_willis> a PPA should be in /etc/sources.list.d/*   not in sources.list
[03:25] <makara> somsip, thx
[03:25] <Guest95155> @ daftykins: I am a complete noob at linux stuff - don't know what CLI means
[03:25] <lasko> ^Ah yes
[03:25] <lasko> Thats right
[03:25] <dr_willis> depending on how you added them
[03:26]  * lasko is now away
[03:26] <dr_willis> Guest95155:  use the software-sources tool and disable them via the gui then
[03:27] <icedwater> Guest95155: CLI is the command-line interface.
[03:27] <Guest95155> @ icedwater: ha, wow, thanks.
[03:29] <daftykins> Guest95155: so updating via "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:30] <Guest95155> @ daftykins: this updater - does this just install all recommended updates?
[03:31] <daftykins> Guest95155: yep all available package updates
[03:31] <dr_willis> theres no need to be using @ on irc
[03:32] <daftykins> dr_willis: could be worse ;)
[03:32] <dr_willis> he'll get carple tunnle. ;)
[03:32] <Guest95155> dr_willis: it has nothing to do with twitter, I promise.
[03:32] <Guest95155> just a habit of mind
[03:33] <dr_willis> !tab
[03:33] <dr_willis> most peoples irc clients auto 'jighlight' when you say their nick.. so its a bit redundant
[03:33] <voignar> wierd sort of question. I recently had a laptop die on me, due to the graphics card. I tried putting the hard drive from that laptop into my new one. The Ubuntu install works great, but the WIndows install doesn't. I'm relatively sure that all I'm missing is one driver from Windows. Is it possible for me to install the driver from Ubuntu, for Windows?
[03:34] <voignar> (if th question is better for the forums, just point me in the right direction and I'll be on my way :))
[03:35] <daftykins> voignar: are you trying to boot the Windows install from that second hard disk on the new laptop?
[03:35] <dr_willis> voignar:  may  be better to ask in #windows also
[03:35] <daftykins> i'm more puzzled as to what you mean
[03:35] <voignar> daftykins, its one hard drive, dual booting with wubi.
[03:36] <daftykins> ewwww
[03:36] <dr_willis> voignar:  the wubi install in windows works.. but windows it self dosent? thats.... amuseing
[03:36] <daftykins> so what isn't working in ubuntu?
[03:36] <daftykins> oh windows doesn't
[03:36] <daftykins> what isn't working in windows? :D
[03:37] <voignar> ubuntu works amazing, no modifications neccessary, which is pretty incredible. Windows doesn't boot, and I'm pretty sure its the mass storage controller
[03:37] <dr_willis> id be using that wubi instgall to backup anything imporntant from the windows and linux  parts of the hard drive.. befor trying to fix windows
[03:38] <dr_willis> its possible any fixs to windows may break wubi..
[03:38] <daftykins> plus WUBI breaks WUBI
[03:38] <daftykins> :>
[03:38] <daftykins> and thus should be killed, preferably with fire
[03:38] <voignar> lol, had no idea wubi was that bad :P
[03:38] <dr_willis> wubi is being disciontinued..
[03:39] <Soulflare3> LOL wubi breaks wubi
[03:39] <dr_willis> so it would be a good idea to plan on moving to a normal install in the future
[03:39] <Soulflare3> You get a faster install with a normal install anyway :/
[03:39] <Soulflare3> it performs much better in EXT3/4 than under NTFS
[03:40] <daftykins> mostly i just cringe when people come on here and ask for help fixing their WUBI installs
[03:40] <daftykins> or getting data back from them
[03:40] <dr_willis> at least this time wubi is the life-saver  not the rock
[03:40] <daftykins> i mean, if they're not happy at command line, getting someone to mount NTFS from a LiveCD to start is just insane :(
[03:41] <daftykins> true, but as you pointed out he's gotta undo that scenario to progress
[03:41] <daftykins> we should really be able to decouple installation order from computers, if you get me?
[03:41] <daftykins> easier with multiple disks i suppose
[03:42] <daftykins> i got tired of multiboot 'cause you couldn't easily reinstall one without messing with the others to some extent
[03:47] <voignar> wubi was a nice way to have people try out ubuntu for the first time. Real easy install and all that.
[03:49] <icedwater> I haven't seen wubi in a long time, they switched it to just a "reboot to try Ubuntu" dialog box, right?
[03:49] <voignar> something like that yah. Loads less intimidating then using a live cd to set it up
[03:50] <awm10> If I'm making a package and some install files need to go into users' /home/theuser directories, how do I do that?
[03:51] <awm10> If I install files to the root user's home folder (/root), will they also be installed to all of the users' /home/* folders?
[03:52] <daftykins> voignar: i suppose it depends how much the user wants to see, granted LiveCDs were terrible for speed. nowadays of course, flash drives are so ubiquitous that they make that experience great, if users can get them
[04:02] <awm10> When you make a new desktop user on Ubuntu, where do his files come from? Are they copied from the /root user as a skeleton or something?
[04:05] <somsip> awm10: /etc/skel
[04:06] <awm10> somsip > Thanks!
[04:06] <i3luefire> so i am trying to "clone" my 160gb ide hdd to a newer 500gb sata hdd but i have tried several different programs and they all are taking too long. clonezilla said over 26hrs dd seems like it may be even slower and ddrescue is slower still
[04:08] <seronis> i assume  'cp'  wasnt fast enough either ?
[04:08] <awm10> If I wanted a .deb file to add an entry to the .bashrc file, I would of course want to have it append to /etc/skel. Would it be incorrect to also modify existing users' /home/*/.bashrc files?
[04:08] <i3luefire> i thought it would be slower and more prone to errors
[04:08] <i3luefire> but i didnt try cp
[04:09] <WeThePeople> headphones are not working through pulseaudio, ive have tried editing the .conf files no luck
[04:09] <somsip> i3luefire: rsync is probably the safest but I doubt it will be quicker
[04:09] <i3luefire> i am talking about 400KB/s
[04:10] <awm10> i3luefire > cp -r if you're copying a directory.
[04:10] <i3luefire> the slower drive should be able to be read at ~50MB/s
[04:10] <somsip> awm10: use the global /etc/bashrc, though whether that is a good idea I don't know. man bash and /bashrc
[04:11] <i3luefire> i am not doing directories i am trying to move my ubuntu isntall to a newer safer faster easier to use sata drive
[04:11] <awm10> somsip > Thanks again, I'll check the man.
[04:11] <seronis> i3luefire:  so you are copying the  '/' directory
[04:11] <seronis> (just pointing out its still a recursive directory copy)
[04:12] <seronis> but.. i have no idea how symlinks and such will be handled
[04:12] <i3luefire> in a manner of speaking but i want the mbr and the uuid to come too if possible
[04:13] <seronis> out of my league
[04:13] <somsip> seronis i3luefire: cp can preserve everything - cp -ar from memory but needs checking
[04:13] <i3luefire> i need to be able to boot this final product
[04:13] <somsip> i3luefire: then your solution needs something more than just copying /
[04:15] <somsip> i3luefire: here you go https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingLinuxPartition
[04:16] <i3luefire> ty somsip
[04:19] <LibrePenguin> 32bit Raring installs as guest on windows host, boots to login, gets to desktop, updates, but then there is only a black screen. No gui. What should I do?
[04:20] <somsip> LibrePenguin: enable 3d accelaration in the VM? It sounds like you're talking about a VM...
[04:20] <LibrePenguin> yes, I am. Will do. THanks for the suggestion, sornsip...
[04:21] <somsip> LibrePenguin: I understand that Unity under Raring does not play nicely on VMs without 3d accelaration. Can't say I've done anything with this myself though
[04:21] <LibrePenguin> i will be glad if i can get it to run...
[04:27] <dr_willis>  i got rareing with unity going ok in vbox  on windows7. with guest addations and 3d support checked in vbox
[04:27] <dr_willis> lubuntu does run better however ;)
[04:27] <LibrePenguin> sornsip, i also get an error message: compiz crashed with sigil
[04:28] <slicefruitsninja> hi
[04:28] <slicefruitsninja> can anyone please help me
[04:28] <pbt> !ask
[04:28] <slicefruitsninja> i installed my first ubuntu 13.04
[04:28] <slicefruitsninja> i wiped windows
[04:29] <slicefruitsninja> i have problem with partions
[04:29] <slicefruitsninja> my computer won't boot from the install which i did on the partition, right now I am booting from a live CD
[04:29] <slicefruitsninja> can anyone please help me.
[04:29] <dr_willis> you are going to make  a windows free system?
[04:29] <slicefruitsninja> yes
[04:29] <dr_willis> give us more details...
[04:29] <dr_willis> and the issue is?
[04:29] <slicefruitsninja> the issue is
[04:29] <slicefruitsninja> i installed ubuntu
[04:30] <slicefruitsninja> but my laptop is not booting from that install
[04:30] <dr_willis> we can read more then 3 words on a single line... ;)
[04:30] <slicefruitsninja> sorry, i chat like that :(
[04:30] <dr_willis> so what is the laptop doing exactly when you tell it to boot/
[04:30] <slicefruitsninja> when I turn it on
[04:30] <dr_willis> we finally get to the atual problm.. ;)
[04:30] <slicefruitsninja> it shows this black screen with a message
[04:30] <slicefruitsninja> and gives me boot options
[04:30] <bazhang> !enter | slicefruitsninja
[04:30] <slicefruitsninja> to boot from cd/network/hdd
[04:30] <awm10> somsip > After reading your comment I realized that what I actually need to do is add a .desktop for my application's service to the global autostart at /etc/xdg/autostart.
[04:31] <bazhang> slicefruitsninja, stop with the enter key
[04:31] <LibrePenguin> which is a nice, default 2D Desk Top Environment that is in the Ubuntu repositories? What would be the command to install it? eg sudo apt-get install gnome-shell   (btw, gnome-shell is default 3d, i believe)
[04:31] <awm10> Thanks again for the help.
[04:31] <somsip> awm10: that's over my head, but I'm glad you got sorted out
[04:31] <dr_willis> LibrePenguin:  lubuntu or xubuntu
[04:31] <somsip> np
[04:31] <slicefruitsninja> dr willis, can you help me please
[04:31] <dr_willis> LibrePenguin:  package name is lubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
[04:31] <slicefruitsninja> should it ake a snapshot of Gparted?
[04:32] <LibrePenguin> great, thanks, dr_willis
[04:32] <dr_willis> slicefruitsninja:  so far you havent really told us much.. you tell the thing to boot the hard drive you installed to.. and it should boot..
[04:32] <dr_willis> slicefruitsninja:  if its not booting. i would try redoing the install. or trying the boot-repair tool
[04:32] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[04:33] <slicefruitsninja> i have the following partion /dev/sda inside there is /dev/sda2, dev /sda3
[04:33] <slicefruitsninja> inside /dev/sda2 my ubuntu is installed because it shows 7GB spaced used and 285GB free
[04:33] <alien64> slicefruitsninja: sounds like grub thinks your install is somewhere else
[04:33] <bazhang> wubi install?
[04:33] <dr_willis> slicefruitsninja:  so whats sda1 ? you did erase all of windows off the hd?
[04:34] <slicefruitsninja> no, I downloaded ubuntu 13.04, burned it, and deleted my partitions which had windows, I wanted clean ubuntu install.
[04:34] <slicefruitsninja> the ubuntu installation worked, however, when I turn on my computer, it shows black screen and then goes to the boot options
[04:35] <slicefruitsninja> dr willis, yes I erased all of windows.
[04:35] <dr_willis> slicefruitsninja:  i would try the boot-repair tool mentioned on the wiki pages liste above. and let it 'fix' grub for you and see if that works
[04:35] <alien64> so if it worked whats the problem ?
[04:35] <dr_willis> the installer had an option to totally erase the hard drive. :) it could have erased windows fo ryou.
[04:36] <slicefruitsninja> well i had errors, when I was doing disk erase and install ubuntu, so I messed with the partitons and I have like 4 partions now
[04:36] <slicefruitsninja> i am going to try the wiki pages, hopefully, it fixes it.
[04:36] <alien64> it will
[04:37] <dr_willis> slicefruitsninja:  or redo the install and tell it to use the whole hard drive. and let it partion as it wants
[04:37] <alien64> dont skip any steps :)
[04:37] <slicefruitsninja> Do i need to burn boot repair?
[04:37] <dr_willis> you can install/run boot-repair from a live cd.
[04:38] <slicefruitsninja> okay awesome, thank you very much!1
[04:39] <slicefruitsninja> do you guys think it is a good option to dual boot with windows?
[04:39] <dr_willis> if you need windows. yes
[04:39] <dr_willis> i keep windows on its own hard drive normally
[04:39] <slicefruitsninja> Also, would you recommend doing wubi installations?
[04:39] <dr_willis> run away from wubi
[04:39] <dr_willis> dont even LOOK at wubi
[04:39] <alien64> wubi sucks
[04:40] <dr_willis> erase wubi from the pages of history
[04:40] <slicefruitsninja> okay boot repair gave me the following message
[04:40] <slicefruitsninja> GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such as Gparted. Then try again.
[04:41] <slicefruitsninja> Did I mess up really bad?
[04:41] <dr_willis> sounds like the installer did not properly set up a gpt type partitions.. what you COULD do - is totally delete all partions on the hd.. with gparted. reboot the installer. then rerun the installer and let it partion as needed
[04:42] <dr_willis> there is nothing on the hd you nee dto keep? its  just a broken new ubuntu install?
[04:42] <slicefruitsninja> i lost all my files, I had a backup drive, but that got wiped, I guess it's okay.
[04:42] <slicefruitsninja> Okay I opened Gparted and i see three partions
[04:42] <slicefruitsninja> unloaccted, /dev/sda2/ and /dev/sda3
[04:43] <slicefruitsninja> should I delete these three?
[04:43] <dr_willis> hmm.. looks like thats how it should be.. from that boot-repair message..
[04:43] <dr_willis> mane sure the bios-grub flag is set on the first partition
[04:43] <dr_willis> make sure.
[04:43] <slicefruitsninja> by first partiton, do you mean the one which has Ubuntu installed?
[04:44] <dr_willis> but it shouldent be unallocaed.
[04:44] <dr_willis> so that may be the issue
[04:44] <dr_willis> or delete alll 3 and rerun the installer..
[04:44] <slicefruitsninja> okay deleting.
[04:44] <slicefruitsninja> umm, why is delete greyed out?
[04:45] <slicefruitsninja> there is a key beside the /dev/sda2 [ext4] and /dev/sda3 [linux-swap]
[04:46] <alien64> slicefruitsninja: are you running from live cd atm
[04:46] <slicefruitsninja> yes @alien.
[04:46] <alien64> kk
[04:47] <dr_willis> swap may be in use
[04:48] <alien64> he clouls just run the installer again and tell it to erase everything and install ubuntu on sda just let it auto do it
[04:48] <alien64> could
[04:49] <slicefruitsninja> hello?
[04:50] <slicefruitsninja> sorry for being such a newbie, how do I delete these 3 partitions, since the delete in the menu is greyed out.
[04:51] <dr_willis> make theure they are unmounted and  swap it turned orr..
[04:51] <dr_willis> off
[04:51] <dr_willis> right click on th epartions and look and see
[04:51] <slicefruitsninja> okay unmounting
[04:51] <daftykins> slicefruitsninja: you have to right click turn swap off
[04:51] <slicefruitsninja> I was following a tutorial and it said to change the Grub, use this: sudo grub-install –root-directory=/home/ubuntu/temp /dev/sda
[04:51] <alien64> slicefruitsninja: just run the installer and let ubuntu del the partitions there is an option to erase everything
[04:51] <linelevel> Hi. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 in an LVM on a LUKS-encrypted partition. Now when I boot, I get an LVM error (it can't find /dev/mapper/vg-root) and I get dumped into an initramfs shell. Can anyone please help me figure out why my initramfs can't see my LVM volumes?
[04:52] <slicefruitsninja> okay, should I just re-run the installer OR should i try to delete these partitions?
[04:53] <slicefruitsninja> am I disconnected? hello?
[04:53] <alien64> lol
[04:54] <slicefruitsninja> lol, I need to fix this, it's almost 1 am and I have school :(
[04:54] <slicefruitsninja> so what do I do, wipe the partitions, or re-run the installer?
[04:55] <i3luefire> okay.i am just going to start with a new partition on the new 500 gb hdd and then copy over all files that do not exist or have newer file versions
[04:55] <slicefruitsninja> okay I deleted
[04:55] <alien64> id rerun the installer and choose the option to erase everything and use the whole disk :)
[04:56] <slicefruitsninja> okay alien, re-running now.
[04:57] <slicefruitsninja> should I choose the option Erase Disk and Install Ubuntu OR choose something else?
[04:57] <alien64> erase and install
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:58] <slicefruitsninja> okay, I hope it works :D :D ty for the awesome help.
[04:58] <slicefruitsninja> morning @lotus.
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> slicefruitsninja: tnx mate
[04:58] <slicefruitsninja> so far no errors :D :D :D
[04:58] <alien64> if that dun work i dunno i did exactly that and it worked for me
[04:59] <slicefruitsninja> if it doesn't work, then I have to install windows 7 :(
[04:59] <slicefruitsninja> i want to try ubuntu :D :D
[04:59] <kelvin_> hello
[04:59] <kelvin_> who are you
[04:59] <kelvin_> ?
[04:59] <slicefruitsninja> <-- Creator of Ubuntu
[04:59] <kelvin_> lol
[05:00] <slicefruitsninja> <-- Newbie
[05:00] <slicefruitsninja> @alien, do you code?
[05:02] <houser> What does this command exactly do? (omitting target dir) cp -R /path/to/folder
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> slicefruitsninja: please you #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss other stuff then ubuntu problems
[05:02] <slicefruitsninja> okay sorry
[05:03] <SwedeMike> houser: I'd imagine it'll throw an error?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> houser: man says its -R recursivly copy folder
[05:03] <alien64> slicefruitsninja: for android some yes
[05:04] <houser> SwedeMike, it dont
[05:04] <houser> SwedeMike, it did it accidently and something was copied in a weird way and my dir structure is all messed up now
[05:05] <SwedeMike> houser: did you use a wildcard in the folder string?
[05:05] <slicefruitsninja> nice nice, @alien, I have one partiton in /dev/sda it is called unallocated, do you think this installation would fix it, it's currently intalling right now.
[05:05] <SwedeMike> houser: when I tried cp -R <dir> it threw me an error.
[05:05] <alien64> slicefruitsninja: pm me to discuss other stuff
[05:05] <dr_willis> unallocated means there are no partitions there. ')
[05:05] <houser> SwedeMike, i did this cp -R /path/to/folder/*
[05:06] <slicefruitsninja> dr_willis, i chose the erase and install ubuntu option,.
[05:06] <dr_willis> slicefruitsninja:   the installer should allocate partions as it needs them.
[05:06] <dr_willis> so it erased them, then remade them
[05:06] <slicefruitsninja> i erased them
[05:06] <SwedeMike> houser: * is expanded by the shell, and then the complete string is sent to cp. So everything it expanded to will be copied recursively to the last entry * expands to.
[05:06] <slicefruitsninja> and now running installer with the option erase and install ubuntu.
[05:06] <dr_willis> so it should have remade the partions it needed
[05:06] <alien64> you should have picked erase and install you dont see what its doing it just does it
[05:07] <SwedeMike> houser: so if you have d1 d2 d3 and do cp -R d* d1 and d2 will be copied into d3.
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> houser: with what purpose did you choose -R
[05:07] <dr_willis> assuming it did make them right.. it could be   using gpt when it dosent need to.
[05:07] <houser> lotuspsychje, to copy recursively
[05:07] <i3luefire> my both ubuntu and my xubuntu disks are having issues booting so i am going to use pc-bsd. no-offence
[05:07] <alien64> true
[05:07] <slicefruitsninja> okay i just opened gparted and i see new partitions
[05:07] <houser> SwedeMike, yeah ok then that must have happened
[05:08] <houser> SwedeMike, so everything has been copied into my webroot dir
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> i3luefire: what kind of issues?
[05:08] <alien64> let the install finish and we shall see
[05:08] <slicefruitsninja> dev sda1 [fat32], dev sda2 [ext4], devsda3 [linux-swap]
[05:08] <slicefruitsninja> okay :D :D ty for the awesom help.
[05:08] <houser> darn
[05:08] <i3luefire> they stop reading the disks and just sit ther
[05:08] <dr_willis> slicefruitsninja:  that looks mor ereasonable.. sda1 was unallocatgged befor
[05:09] <alien64> lol fat 32
[05:09] <slicefruitsninja> will fat32 work?
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> i3luefire: any errors you can paste us?
[05:09] <MBfree> Why fat32?
[05:09] <slicefruitsninja> I don't know, ubuntu choose that.
[05:09] <slicefruitsninja> :/
[05:09] <dr_willis> because thats what grub-gtp/efi needs
[05:10] <dr_willis> its a special boot partion for some reason
[05:10] <MBfree> oh ok, sry, I'm joining late in the conversation
[05:10] <i3luefire> not past but. it had something to do with not having access to a particular drive which i am assuming was the cd drive
[05:10] <slicefruitsninja> is there any way to click the icon in unity and it minimizes same behavouir like windows?
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> !details | i3luefire
[05:10] <alien64> id say ubuntu is going on sda2
[05:11] <slicefruitsninja> yes, it's used space is 7.64gb
[05:11] <dr_willis> slicefruitsninja:  theres some patched unity out there that has that feature.. but  i find its best to just learn to click on the  app you are interested in.. not minimizeing somthing THEN click on the app you want
[05:11] <dr_willis> i rarely minoimize anything these days
[05:11] <i3luefire> lotuspsychje, one moment i have another disk in there atm and want to see if that works
[05:11] <alien64> how big is that fat 32 part?
[05:11] <MBfree> it's better to just click the app you need slickfruitninja
[05:12] <MBfree> slice*
[05:12] <slicefruitsninja> fat32 size = 94mb, used 1.58mb
[05:12] <slicefruitsninja> it has the flag boot.
[05:13] <alien64> humm thats bad
[05:13] <Ben64> slicefruitsninja: what are you trying to do? why do you have a 94MB fat32 partition?
[05:13] <alien64> it shouldnt be there at all lol
[05:14] <slicefruitsninja> I was trying to install ubuntu, I wiped the windows hd, and ubuntu woudn't load. So booted live cd and went to installer and choose Erase and Install Ubuntu.
[05:14] <slicefruitsninja> Now I got 3 partitions inside dev sda
[05:14] <slicefruitsninja>  dev sda1 [fat32], dev sda2 [ext4], devsda3 [linux-swap]
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox-qt | sianhulo
[05:15] <dr_willis> the fat32 partion is needed because of the use of gpt according to what boot-repaiir said
[05:15] <dr_willis> and its what the installer auto-setup
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> sianhulo: did you install this package?
[05:15] <slicefruitsninja> I guess we will find out after I reboot, installation is 90% finished.
[05:15] <alien64> oh ya forgot about gpt
[05:16] <sianhulo> lotuspsychje, no, I haven't, but isn't that a dependency for kubuntu?
[05:16] <dr_willis> his install BEFOR did not have that fat32 partiton. but had sda1 unallocated. (well where sda1 would be)
[05:16] <MBfree> ubuntu should partition itself as needed without worrying about partitions if it's not a dual boot, etc
[05:16] <slicefruitsninja> I hope I get all my drivers (Wifi, Sound, Graphics), as I had problems with it before.
[05:16] <Medjai> does anyone know ow to execute the gui that asks if you want to restart or shutdown from command line?
[05:16] <slicefruitsninja> However, it works fine in Live CD.
[05:16] <pabs3> how do I get a 64-bit kernel on i386 Ubuntu precise?
[05:16] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, headphones not working through pulseaudio, i have edited the conf files extensively, no luck, any ideas, im on 12.04.2 x64 asus k55a laptop
[05:16] <Medjai> i want to mimic what is done when i go to the top right portion of unity and go to shutdown
[05:16] <alien64> never seen an install do that before
[05:16] <dr_willis> pabs3:  you dont use a 64bit kernel on a 32bit install
[05:16] <Medjai> how can i find out what the command is?
[05:17] <WeThePeople> pabs3, download from ubuntu
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> sianhulo: read the info trigger :p
[05:17] <pabs3> I need to
[05:17] <slicefruitsninja> Quick Question, does the battery on ubuntu or windows 7 last longer?
[05:17] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  no idea here i rarely use headphones
[05:17] <dr_willis> slicefruitsninja:  windows drivers/companies know the tricks for the spcific hardware to make batterys last longer in windows.
[05:17] <slicefruitsninja> oh
[05:17] <MBfree> Mine last about the same
[05:18] <slicefruitsninja> brb need to restart.
[05:18] <i3luefire> "I have a problem with getting into the installer, I'm running Ubuntu version xubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso and also ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso When I try to do a normal boot from the cd, I get the following output: i see the splash screen with some symbol at the bottom and the disc stops spinning, but I expected it to do keep spinning and bring my to an installer prompt of some sort or a live desktop"
[05:18] <dr_willis> but ubuntu/linux can often do the same tasks with less cpu load.
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> WeThePeople: did you upgrade or clean install?
[05:18] <i3luefire> lotuspsychje,
[05:18] <sianhulo> lotuspsychje, "This package provides the Qt based graphical user interface for VirtualBox."
[05:18] <WeThePeople> lotuspsychje, clean install from live cd
[05:18] <dr_willis> bbl
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> WeThePeople: did you check additional drivers for audio?
[05:19] <Yoshie> what is bbl?
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> Yoshie: be back later
[05:19] <WeThePeople> lotuspsychje, yes none there
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> WeThePeople: maybe a pulseaudio restart?
[05:20] <WeThePeople> lotuspsychje, tried that many times with newly edited conf files
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> WeThePeople: or finding pulseaudio logs to see errros?
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> i3luefire: are you sure your hd is good to go? magnetic hd or ssd?
[05:21] <i3luefire> magnetic hd
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> sianhulo: how about installing virtualbox from software centre?
[05:21] <sianhulo> lotuspsychje, I took a closer look, and there are 2 packages with the name virtualvox-qt, one is installed already
[05:22] <i3luefire> lotuspsychje, the cdrom disc is magically working now
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> i3luefire: ubuntu should work or any computer, if not doublecheck your hardware
[05:24] <boggle> Need to crop a photo. Don't want to deal with installing gimp and wading through features. If this were windows I'd use mspaint. Can anyone recommend something similarly straight forward and light?
[05:24] <i3luefire> lotuspsychje, i am aware of that. so i have done all the checking of the hw i know how to do. also this hw has been working with ubuntu. but i am just having a frustrating time getting it to work now.
[05:24] <MBfree> Libre Office Draw should do that
[05:24] <sianhulo> lotuspsychje, that was the first thing I did, didn't work>tried from the page, it didn't wprk
[05:24] <i3luefire> i am out of blank cds or i would have just made a new disc
[05:25] <PARAPAN> hi fellows need some help with 12.04 lts - is there a way tomake-it look like 10.04 ???
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> i3luefire: you got an usb to install from?
[05:26] <Name141> is the mini ISOs the closes to Ubuntu's Netinstall ?
[05:26] <MBfree> @i3luefire what exactly is your problem?
[05:26] <i3luefire> maybe. but the disc seems to be working now. so i am going to try to use it
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !notunity | PARAPAN
[05:28] <slicerfruitsninj> @dr_wilson, same error :(
[05:28] <PARAPAN> lotuspsychje: thanks > but there are other changes too ....like libre office instead ooo ????
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> PARAPAN: newer versions hold new changes yes...
[05:29] <slicerfruitsninj> :(
[05:29] <slicerfruitsninj> I wonder why i am getting this error
[05:29] <MBfree> what error?
[05:29] <i3luefire> MBfree, i am truly just trying to get my working ubuntu server 12.04.2 x64 installation copied off of an old ide hd to a new sata one so that i can get back to normal opperations. i had the os semi-working yesterday by installing a new grub. but then i realized it was running off of the old hd. and that i wanted to get rid of that because my new mobo doesnt have pata ide ports
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> slicerfruitsninj: re-ask your question here once in a while
[05:30] <slicerfruitsninj> Exiting Pxe Rom its a black screen, and just goes to boot options. it does not boot ubuntu, even though I inatalled it.
[05:31] <PARAPAN> lotuspsychje: the first thing I miss is the menu from top left ...with all categories like internet / office , etc ..where you could see all installed programs at a glance - is there any way to have the same in this version ?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> !info classicmenu-indicator | PARAPAN
[05:31] <beastmanrage> hello all, anyone with an android device have a sec, i really need some thoughts on an app
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> !android | beastmanrage
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> beastmanrage: check #android mate
[05:32] <beastmanrage> i've been, id like to hear it from non-devs
[05:32] <beastmanrage> android* devs that is ;)
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> beastmanrage: #ubuntu-offtopic will have good opinions :p
[05:33] <fractaline> beastmanrage, whats up?
[05:33] <diabolik> not here folks
[05:33] <beastmanrage> its a rotary phone (novelty) app, it would take like 2 secs
[05:34] <boggle> Need to crop a photo. Don't want to deal with installing gimp and wading through features. If this were windows I'd use mspaint. Can anyone recommend something similarly straight forward and light?
[05:34] <PARAPAN> lotuspsychje: so i've to install new packages
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> boggle: they just requested you libreoffice draw
[05:36] <boggle> lotuspsychje: ah, just not addressed to me, thank you
[05:36] <alien64> my ubuntu install 13.04 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32291204/Screenshot%20from%202013-05-21%2023%3A21%3A26.png
[05:36] <boggle> MBfree: thanks!
[05:36] <MBfree> yes boggle, use draw, i'm sorry i didn't adress you
[05:36] <slicerfruitsninj> @alien, it did not working :(
[05:37] <boggle> MBfree: no worries, thanks for the tip! :)
[05:37] <MBfree> :D
[05:37] <alien64> slicerfruitsninj: yes i see that sorry
[05:37] <slicerfruitsninj> Thanks for help though.
[05:38] <boggle> MBfree: about to try some elancing, so I have to crop my ex out of one of the four photos I have of myself in a suit lol
[05:38] <slicerfruitsninj> Running boot repair
[05:38] <alien64> sure np wish it would have really bean helpfull :(
[05:39] <alien64> brb rebooting
[05:39] <Neozonz> hello im using ufw allow 3333
[05:39] <Neozonz> but the port does not appear to be open when port scanning
[05:39] <Ben64> Neozonz: you need something listening on the port
[05:40] <Neozonz> ah ok
[05:40] <Neozonz> seems like the daemon is not working correctly
[05:40] <sianhulo> I don't know what's the deal with virtual box http://pastebin.com/Fy6CzUh4
[05:41] <Ben64> sianhulo: stuff in init.d are not things you can modprobe
[05:42] <sianhulo> Ben64, hmm, still I don't know what's the deal with it as I cannot run any OS because of "missing kernel"
[05:43] <slicerfruitsninj> Finally it worked
[05:43] <slicerfruitsninj> Awesome ty for the help at dr_wilson.
[05:44] <slicerfruitsninj> Alien
[05:44] <slicerfruitsninj> You there?
[05:44] <alien64> yup i seen
[05:45] <Soulflare3> sianhulo what OS is your host system (the one you are trying to run virtualbox on) and the version of your OS?
[05:45] <diabolik> probably give up on vb and try out the CD itself
[05:45] <alien64> slicerfruitsninj: you on irc via your phone :)
[05:45] <sianhulo> Soulflare3, ubuntu 13.04 (64 bits)
[05:45] <slicerfruitsninj> Alien, yes it worked
[05:46] <slicerfruitsninj> Boot repair fixed it :D ty ty
[05:46] <alien64> slicerfruitsninj: good
[05:46] <slicerfruitsninj> Cant enable wifi though
[05:46] <alien64> why not
[05:47] <slicerfruitsninj> Its greyed
[05:47] <slicerfruitsninj> It was working on live
[05:48] <alien64> look in network in system settings
[05:48] <dr_willis> i am on irc right now via my phone
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: what irc client?
[05:48] <dr_willis> using andchat
[05:49] <alien64> my tablet i use android irc
[05:49] <dr_willis> it handles the basics well.. crashes on nick completion WAY to much.. but its crased on nickcompletion at times for ever.. :) the only time i ever see it crash
[05:49] <slicerfruitsninj> In network settings for wireless i cannot turn on switch
[05:49] <slicerfruitsninj> :(
[05:49] <dr_willis> tablet   hot-spoted to my phone   at the moment
[05:49] <Soulflare3> andchat is awesome :D
[05:50] <alien64> humm
[05:50] <slicerfruitsninj> Should airplane mode be on?
[05:50] <dr_willis> slicerfruitsninj:  but it worked on the live cd?
[05:50] <slicerfruitsninj> Yes at dr
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> what irc client would ubuntu touch use?
[05:50] <dr_willis> airplane mode = all wifreless is OFF..
[05:50] <slicerfruitsninj> Luckily everything else is working
[05:50] <daftykins> all bets are off
[05:50] <daftykins> ...in airplane mode
[05:50] <slicerfruitsninj> Turned off airplane
[05:51] <Soulflare3> is ubuntu touch a regular ubuntu install just optimised for touch? If so I use XChat on both my Windows and Ubuntu machines...
[05:51] <slicerfruitsninj> But wifi turn on is still gray
[05:51] <dr_willis> Airplane mode ON  = all wireless is OFF. ;)
[05:51] <dr_willis> airplane mode  off = wireless works ;) here
[05:51] <slicerfruitsninj> In terminal do you use code wifi unblock all??
[05:52] <aeon-ltd> dr_willis: that said it's a wonder why modern phones don't have individual radio controls
[05:52] <dr_willis> i rarely have to do anything with wifi on my machines. :)  I was sure to buy usb dongles that worked with linux out of the box.
[05:52] <daftykins> aeon-ltd: err they do...
[05:52] <Soulflare3> sianhulo what is the exact error you receive about the kernel? I think it's one I've solved in the past, but I want the exact error.
[05:52] <dr_willis> aeon-ltd:  mine does. :)
[05:52] <dr_willis> aurplane mode = all off.
[05:53] <daftykins> dr_willis: what situation do you find yourself in when only a tablet + phone to IRC from is possible?
[05:53] <slicerfruitsninj> I turned of airplane
[05:53] <dr_willis> airplane mode =  turn that on befor you hand the phone over to the 5 yr old.. or else he will buy stuff on amazon when you dont expect it
[05:53] <WeThePeople> is it possible to turn a windows exe driver into a ubuntu compatible driver?
[05:53] <slicerfruitsninj> I used command rfkill list all
[05:53] <slicerfruitsninj> It shows wifi as hard blocked.
[05:53] <alocer> internetless :D
[05:53] <aeon-ltd> WeThePeople: that depends on what driver it is
[05:53] <dr_willis> daftykins:  i am using a Nexux7 with a bluetooth keyboard  -   going through my phone.. to get to irc. i do it all the time at work
[05:53] <daftykins> dr_willis: ah ok, whilst working
[05:53] <dr_willis> i dont carry a laptop around any more
[05:53] <alocer> WeThePeople: Ndiswrapper
[05:54] <daftykins> dr_willis: weight factor?
[05:54] <Soulflare3> You need to get the .ini files out of the .exe first though for Ndiswrapper
[05:54] <sianhulo> Soulflare3, http://pastebin.com/Uny43rN3
[05:54] <dr_willis> plus i dont need anything a laotp does   at this time. ;)
[05:54] <lafyn> on the plus side, i found by anyone else
[05:54] <dr_willis> i can do it all on my tablet
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: nexus7 can do touch right
[05:55] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  its a mainstream android google tablet. ;) so yes.
[05:55] <dr_willis> ubuntu touch is also ported to it - if thats what you mean.
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: your not curious to install ubuntu touch on it?
[05:55] <Soulflare3> sianhulo, in a terminal, type in: uname -a
[05:56] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  not really.   most all i need to do.. android does it fine
[05:56] <sianhulo> Soulflare3, "Linux simon-System-Product-Name 3.9.2-pf #17 SMP Sun May 12 10:35:57 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:56] <sianhulo> "
[05:56] <Soulflare3> Android is still linux, so... ;)
[05:56]  * dr_willis thinks 'touch' is a silly name for an OS.
[05:56] <dr_willis> ;P
[05:56] <WeThePeople> alocer, itwould be for a sound card driver
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:56] <daftykins> that's what ubuntu have called their phone OS?
[05:56] <daftykins> or Canonical rather
[05:56] <dr_willis> !touch
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !touch | daftykins
[05:56] <daftykins> yeah that's pretty bad
[05:57] <slicerfruitsninj> Ughh why is my brightness on full when i turn on ubuntu
[05:57] <alocer> WeThePeople: i dont think you can !!!
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> but it looks pretty neat!
[05:57] <daftykins> slicerfruitsninj: 'cause you haven't haxxed your power config :D
[05:57] <Soulflare3> that happens on my laptop sometimes lols
[05:57] <lafyn> hence my bad idea
[05:57] <lafyn> wethepeople: what asa do
[05:58] <WeThePeople> lafyn, do you mean alsa?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: would ubuntu touch not be safer that android? i hear tons of malware every day on androids..
[05:58] <lafyn> is there a which is the project level, the project says so in function(e) and then cost in power graphics cards that can be up to round a number of computers.
[05:58] <Soulflare3> I have been using android for almost 2 years and never gotten a virus ._.
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Soulflare3: or you think :p
[05:59] <alocer> even a malware
[05:59] <daftykins> lol virus on android
[05:59] <Soulflare3> lotuspsychje, I fix PC's, I know what a virus looks like :P - My system is clean
[05:59] <slicerfruitsninj> Ughh it says wifi is disabled by hardware switch
[05:59] <slicerfruitsninj> I never touched anything
[06:00] <daftykins> slide it back on!
[06:00] <Soulflare3> slicerfruitsninj, did you try switching the switch to off then on (if you have a hardware switch?)
[06:00] <alocer> slicerfruitsninj: sudo rfkill unblock all
[06:00] <dr_willis> 'what you hear' and what you actually 'get' are often widely different
[06:00] <lafyn> donkeez: does home-grown script mean we don't spam channel on his heavily loaded
[06:00] <lafyn> no, i've been spending tons of other people know me as it can modify the variable, too)
[06:00] <lafyn> branant
[06:01] <sianhulo> android being java is more secure than other systems, being sandbox leads to apps to be "isolated"
[06:01] <daftykins> wow, lafyn's english was terrible
[06:01] <Soulflare3> lol
[06:01] <MBfree> lmao
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> who wanna join me in ot for android security talk
[06:01] <Soulflare3> sianhulo, java more secure? LOL
[06:01] <sianhulo> unless it has root permisson or it exploit a java bug, of course
[06:01] <slicerfruitsninj> Soul no i am not touching anything it was working fine a few mins ago in the live cd, but when i inatalled it doesnt work anymore.
[06:01] <daftykins> it's like his/her every sentence was three personalities trying to express their different conversations but with one pair of hands O_O
[06:01] <Soulflare3> XD
[06:02] <sianhulo> as long as the app isn't exploiting a bug on java, yes
[06:02] <slicerfruitsninj> Rfkill unblock all didnt fix it
[06:02] <Soulflare3> sianhulo, did you happen to have VB installed and then upgrade to 13.04? like from 12.10?
[06:02] <alien64> who would like an android virus ill code you one up :)
[06:02] <slicerfruitsninj> When i type in rfkill list all it shows wifi as hard blocked.
[06:02] <sianhulo> Soulflare3, fresh install
[06:02] <Soulflare3> k
[06:02] <MBfree> me, i want one :P
[06:02] <daftykins> so your argument about java's level of security is to say it's great as long as nobody is trying to make it look bad? sweet
[06:02] <sianhulo> alien64, I'll pass
[06:03] <Soulflare3> booting my ubuntu machine so I can take a look and walk through
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> guys guys ubuntu support :p
[06:03] <MBfree> sry
[06:03] <Soulflare3> ^
[06:03] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: oooooh yeah that's that thing... we do
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> lets move to ot,
[06:03] <daftykins> i dunno, there be dragons in ot
[06:03] <sianhulo> daftykins, no, a virus may cause harm in any system without exploiting bugs(because of careless users), but in android the harm it may do is less than others systems because of java
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:04] <MBfree> question: how do you mention a specific person on XChat?
[06:04] <alien64> MBfree: here ya go >>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32291204/www/alienbrowser/Alien_Browser.apk
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> !tab | MBfree
[06:04] <sianhulo> start typing their name and tap "tab"
[06:04] <icedwater> MBfree: just write the name.
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> idedwater: lol
[06:05] <Soulflare3> xchat has an autocomplete, but it will recognize the name automatically
[06:05] <MBfree> ok thanks alien64
[06:05] <Soulflare3> by default it puts a comma behind the name if you hit tab, but you can also just type out the name
[06:05] <alien64> lol
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> Soulflare3: join ot got a link for ya :p
[06:05] <MBfree> i dont have time for typing lol
[06:06] <Soulflare3> lotuspsychje, I saw that, I was already typing and didn't want to stop lol
[06:06] <Soulflare3> faster than me :P
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> Soulflare3: no i mean another link (security)
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> join ot :p
[06:07] <MBfree> icedwater, thanks also
[06:07] <Soulflare3> ot?
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> !offtopic
[06:07] <Soulflare3> ah
[06:08] <fishcooker> why many server often choosing centos rather than ubuntu server?
[06:08] <MBfree> centos<ubuntu
[06:08] <Soulflare3> i'll read that in a min, gotta write a command for sian
[06:09] <aeon-ltd> fishcooker: you should ask the centos users that
[06:09] <daftykins> Soulflare3: what's sian's command do?
[06:09] <Soulflare3> will fix the kernel problem he is having with virtualbox
[06:09] <Soulflare3> hopefully
[06:09] <daftykins> fishcooker: lots of people talk red hat, so centos is their friend
[06:10] <daftykins> a guy called sian, interesting
[06:10] <Soulflare3> sianhulo you're on the beta kernel? ._.
[06:10] <MBfree> I was under the impression this was ubuntu only
[06:11] <sianhulo> Soulflare3, I'm using the one from ubuntu repository
[06:11] <Biomechd> my laptop seems to have a minor glitch where the clock won't show the number 8 any time it occurs.
[06:11] <Ben64> sianhulo: what version of ubuntu?
[06:11] <Soulflare3> Ben64, he's using 13.04 x64 with kernel 3.9.2-pf
[06:11] <sianhulo> Ben64, ubuntu 13.04
[06:11] <Ben64> !info linux-image
[06:12] <Ben64> yeah thats not normal
[06:12] <Soulflare3> yeah
[06:12] <Soulflare3> thought so
[06:12] <MBfree> ya
[06:12] <Ben64> i'd bet thats the problem
[06:12] <Soulflare3> yeah, which means VB isn't compiling with 3.9, which makes sense
[06:12] <sianhulo> I wonder why is that
[06:12] <aeon-ltd> Biomechd: what clock is this?
[06:12] <Ben64> sianhulo: you must have installed some other one
[06:12] <alien64> m\]\
[06:12] <Biomechd> aeon-ltd: generic unity clock
[06:12] <sianhulo> oh yeah, now I remember I'm using a custom kernel, facepalm
[06:13] <Soulflare3> that's why
[06:13] <Biomechd> in the corner
[06:13] <MBfree> lol
[06:13] <Soulflare3> any reason you're using a custom kernel?
[06:13] <chunkyhead> guys need a little help i ran these commands sudo cpufreq-set -f <freq> and sudo cpufreq-set -g performance now my laptop is quite hot, any way to get it back to default settings?
[06:13] <sianhulo> the system is faster
[06:14] <Soulflare3> ah, but now you can't compile virtualbox ;)
[06:14] <sianhulo> yeah, gotta sacrifice it ;(
[06:14] <MBfree> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_use_cpufrequtils
[06:14] <phillip_2> is there any fix for using a mobile brodband usb stick the software wont install to open the client
[06:14] <Soulflare3> is it possible to safely uninstall a kernel and roll back, say to 3.8.x?
[06:15] <Soulflare3> I've only upgraded kernels, never downgraded
[06:15] <maxpowers> h
[06:15] <sianhulo> done, I'll miss you snapiness :(
[06:15] <MBfree> sometimes --remove rolls back but idk either
[06:15] <sianhulo> Soulflare3, yeah, already did
[06:15] <Soulflare3> ok
[06:16] <sianhulo> just gotta wait some downloads to finish to restart
[06:16] <Soulflare3> now do you have the one installed that came with ubuntu 13 or was that removed
[06:16] <sianhulo> I still have the previous one installed
[06:16] <Soulflare3> should be either 3.8.0-19 or 3.8.0-21 depending on if you updated or not
[06:16] <Soulflare3> ok
[06:17] <MBfree> i'm completely stock ubuntu 13.04
[06:17] <Soulflare3> when your downloads finish, reboot and try running VB again. You *may* have to do a reinstall on virtualbox
[06:17] <phillip_2> trying to get clearwire moblie usb stick to work on laptop i just installed os on cant get client to install only has options for windows and mac os any workaround available?
[06:17] <sianhulo> it's not a problem, I mean, after all of this headaches
[06:18] <Soulflare3> :) almost there, just hang in there
[06:18] <sianhulo> Soulflare3, yeah, but I still have to wait 50 minutes
[06:18] <chunkyhead> guys need a little help i ran these commands sudo cpufreq-set -f <freq> and sudo cpufreq-set -g performance now my laptop is quite hot, any way to get it back to default settings?
[06:19] <MBfree> chunkyhead, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_use_cpufrequtils
[06:20] <Soulflare3> I plan on going to bed a little late tonight so I'll try to stay on for another hour or two
[06:21] <Ben64> chunkyhead: instead of performance, use ondemand
[06:21] <MBfree> Soulflare3, where u from?
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> chunkyhead: theres a cpu indicator aswell
[06:22] <chunkyhead> Ben64, that solves the performance problem :)
[06:22] <chunkyhead> MBfree, let me check it out
[06:22] <chunkyhead> lotuspsychje, that is?
[06:23] <MBfree> chunkyhead, Ben64 hit the nail on the head
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> !info indicator-cpufreq | chunkyhead
[06:24] <cebor> somebody who has ubuntu 13.04 with chrome-stable-27 and a soundblaster5.1-usb?  Since Version 27 all Flash Videos run a little bit to fast, while my Soundblaster is connected.
[06:25] <chunkyhead> MBfree, thanks guys that link worked :D lotuspsychje Ben64
[06:25] <chunkyhead> battery was dying so fast, *phew*
[06:26] <chunkyhead> i hear there's malware being distributed thru irc and fb these days O.o
[06:26] <chunkyhead> i read it somewhere i dont remember, brb
[06:26] <MBfree> fb is malware, hehe
[06:26] <chunkyhead> lol true that
[06:26] <MBfree> but i still have one
[06:26] <chunkyhead> http://techxarena.com/308/new-malware-found-spreading-via-facebook-chat/ here found it
[06:26] <WeThePeople> are there any other sound servers besides alsa and pulseaudio
[06:26] <chunkyhead> MBfree, you still have what?
[06:27] <MBfree> chunkyhead, facebook :P
[06:27] <alien64> fb is a waste of time
[06:27] <Ben64> !ot
[06:27] <MBfree> haha, damn bot, sry sry sry
[06:27] <chunkyhead> yeah i found that out, now it's only twitter i use for daily customized news (this was last offtopic comment bot)
[06:28] <Soulflare3> MBfree, Sorry I was working in another PC. Draper, Utah
[06:28] <MBfree> Soulflare3, no worries
[06:29] <chunkyhead> btw the new 3.9 kernel came out, how to update my kernel?
[06:29] <dr_willis> came out where?
[06:29] <dr_willis> ive been using the 3.9 kernel from the mainstream kernel repos/site for some weeks now
[06:30] <chunkyhead> linux peeps released it i mean
[06:30] <Soulflare3> according to the IRC bot 3.8.0.21 is still the current kernel
[06:30] <dr_willis> not seen it in the normal updates yet.
[06:30] <dr_willis> !mainstream
[06:30] <dr_willis> !kernel
[06:30] <dr_willis> !mainline
[06:30] <chunkyhead> it hasnt come out for ubuntu yet, how to update manually
[06:30] <dr_willis> see !mainline info above
[06:31] <chunkyhead> yeah yeah
[06:31] <Soulflare3> !info linux-image
[06:31] <dr_willis> thats what im using at least
[06:31] <dr_willis> that was the only way to get my HDMI audio working
[06:31] <MBfree> sudo apt-get remove ubottu
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:32] <Ali_nz2> Hi All
[06:32] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, do yuo know where the audio modules are at so i can look at them
[06:32] <Ali_nz2> I am on Ubuntu 12 from an upgraded 11
[06:32] <WeThePeople> for alsa iirc
[06:32] <Ali_nz2> but it says network is unreachable when I try to access anything on LAN
[06:32] <Ali_nz2> ifconfig shows eth4
[06:32] <onkeltem> Hi all. I've got an Atom 525 board with GMA 500/600 series and I wonder how can I get 3D working?
[06:33] <Ali_nz2> but doesnt show ip
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> WeThePeople: any logs you could trace pulseaudio problems?
[06:33] <Name141> hm.. my mininstall stopped at file 865 of 1233 .. at 25%,  anyway I can tell it to retry the file ?
[06:33] <Name141> or somehow save the trouble of redoing it all again
[06:35] <WeThePeople> lotuspsychje, idk where those logs are at
[06:35] <WeThePeople> i tried .pulse not there
[06:35] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  ive rarely had to mess with audio issues. other then that hdmi kernel issue recently.
[06:35] <MBfree> Name141, honestly the net install is unreliable. I'd suggest downloading the full ISO
[06:36] <Name141> MBfree: installing from a live ISO ?
[06:36] <Soulflare3> Best way to go
[06:36] <MBfree> Name141, yessir
[06:36] <Name141> I might as well at this point
[06:37] <Name141> any reason not to install 64bit on a 2GB RAM ?
[06:37] <alien64> nope
[06:38] <Name141> I know Windows 7 64 bit was a kiss of death
[06:38] <Name141> using 1.5 GBs of RAM all the time
[06:38] <MBfree> not really, but 64 bit is usually only to adress 4gb or more of ram
[06:38] <somsip> Name141: low RAM can make a difference according to general opinion. It might depend what desktop you will be running
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> WeThePeople: /var/log/syslog.1 maybe search for pulseaudio
[06:39] <somsip> Name141: http://askubuntu.com/questions/7034/what-is-the-difference-between-32-bit-and-64-bit-and-which-should-i-choose/70551#70551
[06:39] <MBfree> Just install the 32 bit and enable the PAE kernel
[06:39] <qin> !pdf
[06:39] <alien64> i run 64bit on 2gigs on my lappy
[06:40] <MBfree> thanks ubottu we had no idea
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !info mupdf | qin
[06:42] <alien64> i wont a copy of that bot so i can kill it
[06:42] <qin> no mu, normally using zathura, but have interactive pdf which is only doable in adobe... yet, strangely, have difficulty with finding package in 13.04...
[06:42] <MBfree> bahaha
[06:43] <pii3> hey guys
[06:43] <MBfree> hello
[06:43] <pii3> something missed here in this page
[06:43] <pii3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DovecotLDAP
[06:44] <pii3> "Now that you have configured the LDAP configuration, you need to enable LDAP authentication itself. Edit /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-auth.conf and uncomment this line:"
[06:44] <Soulflare3> Only reason I can see for installing 64-bit on a machine with 2GB of memory is to plan for the future, so if you are planning on upgrading it to more than 2GB. Otherwise I wouldn't recommend it.
[06:44] <pii3> but next line is blank
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> !info feedly > lotuspsychje
[06:45] <sianhulo> guys, I need libgtk-1.2 but it's no longer in the repositories http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgtk-1.2&searchon=all&suite=all&section=all
[06:45] <sianhulo> without that I cannot run epsx
[06:45] <BroUnicorn> How many people had a CS major? I apologize for asking an unrelated question, but I'm just wondering how key having done an internship is when searching for a job out of college?
[06:46] <MBfree> CS depends on what country you're in. what acronym are you referring to
[06:46] <Name141> sounds like the machine would be better on the 32 bit
[06:47] <BroUnicorn> a Computer Science degree
[06:47] <MBfree> In that case <---me
[06:47] <somsip> Name141: if you're prepared to install both and run benchmarks you might get a definitive answer
[06:48] <silare> My LM 15 (MATE, 64bit) freezes my keyboard when I click Ctrl or Super too ofteen.
[06:48] <skp1> can someone help me? i have no sound in 13.04
[06:48] <Name141> somsip: nah
[06:48] <silare> How to fix?
[06:48] <alien64> night all
[06:48] <ezra-s> silare, why do you ask in an ubuntu channel?
[06:49] <qin> Feel demented, what "fra" stands for in adobereader-fra?
[06:49] <MBfree> silare, try this before anything https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[06:49] <ezra-s> skp1, hdmi?
[06:49] <Myrtti> !mint | silare
[06:49] <skp1> ezra-s: im not sure. it says hdmi on the side of the case
[06:49] <silare> ezra-s: Oops. mistyped wrong iwndow.
[06:49] <silare> MBfree: It's actually not sound.
[06:50] <MBfree> silare, ok i'm sry, you will have to ask the mint forum
[06:50] <ezra-s> qin, france? :P
[06:50] <silare> MBfree: Haha, thanks. No worries; I didn't realize it said #ubuntu at the bottom. Thought it was linuxmint-help.
[06:51] <skp1> ezra-s: according to pavucontrol the music is playig but im getting no sound from the speakers
[06:51] <qin> ezra-s: in that case where is eng?
[06:51] <MBfree> silare, no worries, I might still be able to answer some questions, hehe. I used mint for a little bit
[06:52] <ezra-s> silare, your keyboard is usb connected? probably you're using a piece of sh*t.. or are you pretty sure it just happens under linux mint?
[06:52] <ezra-s> no offence intended
[06:53] <Brad_> I'm looking for a Scripts to enable and disable the ethernet interface, can someone help me ?
[06:53] <somsip> Brad_: look at ifup and ifdown
[06:53] <ezra-s> qin, unless you have specific needs I recommend you using eog or evince
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> here's a nice list of indicators: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[06:53] <skp1> can someone help me with no sound in 13.04
[06:54] <ezra-s> eog - Eye of GNOME graphics viewer program
[06:54] <MBfree> that's a broad question
[06:54] <ezra-s> evince - Document (PostScript, PDF) viewer
[06:55] <qin> ezra-s: very specific, one yearly form. no other know to me readers cope with interactive form to well.
[06:55] <silare> ezra-s: lol None taken. It's actually my on-board L502x keyboard (laptop). It just happens under Mint; I tried Ubuntu and Xubuntu 13.04, and older versions of Mint.
[06:55] <dr_willis> skp1:  you using hdmi output?
[06:55] <dr_willis> for the audio>
[06:56] <skp1> dr_willis: it only lists dummy output in the sound properties
[06:57] <MBfree> silare, this works? V
[06:57] <dr_willis> skp1:  well for my system i had to try out the mainline 3.9 kernel to get audio working for some reason. but my audio was working over analog. just not hdmi.
[06:57] <MBfree> http://hanynowsky.wordpress.com/2012/04/07/dell-xps-15-l502x-ubuntu-linux/
[06:57] <qin> ok, adobereader is buggy, but works...
[06:57] <ezra-s> silare, it's a weird issue really, probably a buggy xorg input driver version if it does not happen under console, I would try looking in askubuntu for mint if mint has something like that
[06:58] <Brad_> _somsip
[06:58] <silare> ezra-s: Hahah, gotcha. THanks.
[06:59] <ezra-s> silare, I would try keyboard layout settings, there are some keys you can tweak in there, things you can disable, that might work for you with a bit of tweaking
[07:00] <ezra-s> silare, I'm sure mate has keyboard layout settings somewhere
[07:00] <ezra-s> silare, ;)
[07:00] <Name141> How do you remove this Amazon load of junk?
[07:01] <MBfree> go into apps, right click it, and uninstall
[07:01] <ezra-s> Name141, easy, System Settings - Privacy, disable online searches
[07:01] <silare> MBfree: Hmm… I'll have a look. I don't see much about a frozen keyboard, but it has some bug workarounds that have been bugging me since 11.04. :o Thanks!
[07:01] <somsip> !adlens | Name141
[07:01] <silare> ezra-s: Haha, I'll have another look. Reinstall #12 today soon. xD
[07:02] <MBfree> silare, you're welcome, i'm glad I could help in any way
[07:02] <ezra-s> silare, lol, try not to reinstall, each time a Linux user reinstalls, an evil windows user kills a kitten
[07:02] <qin> gfxtablet? Does anyone using it, anyone lefthanded?
[07:02] <pranav> i did backup of /etc/apt/sources.list and ran "sudo apt-get update" but still getting the same error "some index files failed to download" please watch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5689490/
[07:03] <silare> ezra-s: xD True. Gotta' think about them kittens. D: Thanks for your help though. :D
[07:03] <MBfree> lol
[07:03] <ezra-s> pranav, probably you are missing http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main in /etc/sources.list.d/...
[07:03] <pranav> i did backup of /etc/apt/sources.list and ran "sudo apt-get update" but still getting the same error "some index files failed to download" please watch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5689490/
[07:03] <intok> Ok, so I used the live CD to save files from a box that had a corrupted install after last nights storm, the files all seem to check out fine, but my actual install thinks that because the files where moved to it from the live CD that all the files are owned by root. Seeing as there are a few hundred of them, this would be a massive pain to do manually, is there an idiot proof faster way?
[07:03] <ezra-s> pranav please do not repeat
[07:04] <ezra-s> silare, you're a nice dude ;o)
[07:04] <pranav> ezra-s: ok.. wait.. am seeing
[07:05] <silare> ezra-s: I owe it to you to remind me of the kittens. :P
[07:05] <ezra-s> haha
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> is there an indicator for all volumes attached to system and used space of it?
[07:07] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: df
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: yes i know df, but i want an indicator for it, just found unmount indicator aswell :p
[07:08] <pranav> ezra-s: yes im missing that file. but how to restore that file ?
[07:09] <ezra-s> pranav, missing which file?
[07:09] <ezra-s> pranav, you have sources which are no longer available, remove them and re-do apt-get update
[07:10] <pranav> ezra-s: can i remove the complete "apt" folder and redo the apt-get update :P
[07:10] <chunkyhead> umm dr_willis is there a kernel update for precise? all i could find out kernel.ubuntu.com was for raring
[07:10] <ezra-s> pranav, NO
[07:10] <cebor> somebody who has ubuntu 13.04 with chrome-stable-27 and a soundblaster5.1-usb?  Since Version 27 all Flash Videos run a little bit to fast, while my Soundblaster is connected
[07:10] <pranav> ufff ok
[07:10] <ezra-s> pranav, can't you just look inside the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and remove those which are giving you 404?
[07:10] <pranav> ezra-s: will try to..
[07:10] <ezra-s> it isn't that hard really
[07:10] <pranav> there are lot of
[07:10] <ceti331_> does unity run on the geforce 640 in 13.04. .. It Didn't on 12.10
[07:10] <ezra-s> no, just a couple or 3
[07:11] <ezra-s> pranav, why did you add them in the first place?
[07:11] <chunkyhead> is there a kernel update for precise? all i could find out kernel.ubuntu.com was for raring/quantal/etc
[07:12] <ezra-s> pranav, I believe you can remove all in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory and you should be safe but if something breaks don't blame me ;P
[07:12] <Soulflare3> ceti331_, you can always test it on a live CD. My GTX 260 works out-of-the-box, so hopefully your 640 will too :)
[07:12] <pranav> ezra-s: there was a site with neat ppa and apps. so i copied the url and installed those apps
[07:12] <Soulflare3> If not you can always try the proprietary drivers option
[07:13] <ezra-s> pranav, you have a graphical tool to manage that too "software & updates"
[07:13] <pranav> ezra-s: there are 19 files
[07:13] <pranav> yes
[07:13] <cebor> ceti331_: i think the problem on 12.10 where the missing headers, this is fixed in 13.04
[07:13] <ezra-s> open the graphical tool I tell you and look in the "Other sources" tab
[07:13] <pranav> yes wait
[07:13] <cebor> where = was
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: my indicator-multiload already see hd activity, would be nice to see space used aswell
[07:14] <ceti331_> So far ive seen gt220 work fine, but my 12.10 install on a core2quad reverts to 2d. The issue is i want to put my 640 in my newer core i7 pc
[07:14] <ezra-s> pranav, another recommendation, it is wise not to add sources randomly without knowing exactly whats in them
[07:14] <Ben64> ceti331_: you just need the proprietary drivers. and why are  you getting such low powered cards?
[07:14] <Soulflare3> yeah 13.04 has fixed a lot of issues, it's worth a shot
[07:15] <pranav> ezra-s:  will keep that in mind
[07:15] <Max_Powers> d
[07:15] <ezra-s> randomly adding sources is a way to bring trouble easily
[07:17] <pranav> ezra-s: Thanks :)
[07:17] <pranav> i just unchecked all those sources, and the sudo apt-get update is working fine
[07:17] <ezra-s> pranav, we're here for guiding ;)
[07:17] <dr_willis> 'use the source luke!'  ;)
[07:18] <ezra-s> hahaha
[07:20] <Soulflare3> well, I was planning on staying up, but i'm tired
[07:21] <Soulflare3> night everyone xD
[07:21] <ezra-s> night
[07:24] <ceti331_> Lol
[07:25] <ceti331_> Ben64 i dont game, i just want lots of screen real estate for viewing source and documentation
[07:26] <Ben64> ceti331_: then why worry about how 3d unity is?
[07:26] <ceti331_> the little dropshadows are pleasing
[07:26] <ceti331_> As is expose
[07:27] <ezra-s> saying unity didn't run with X graphics card is incorrect anyways
[07:27] <ceti331_> And ive got used to globalmenu and unity launchers
[07:27] <ceti331_> I don get those in fallback gnome 2
[07:27] <Ben64> unity works fine in 2d
[07:27] <ezra-s> you can always grab drivers from nvidia and run their installation which does all the job
[07:27] <Ben64> don't do that
[07:27] <Ben64> it'll break every update
[07:27] <chunkyhead> can i update to kernel 3.9 on ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[07:28] <Ben64> chunkyhead: you can if you really want to, but its not supported here
[07:28] <ezra-s> Ben64, yes, ubuntu tend to use too cutting edge kernel which needs upgrades often
[07:28] <Ben64> ezra-s: no they don't...
[07:28] <chunkyhead> Ben64, what can be the possible drawbacks? ezra-s
[07:28] <ezra-s> Ben64, since we're on it you can also grab kernel source, compile it yourself and remove all ubuntu kernel binaries and headers...
[07:29] <ezra-s> chunkyhead, sometimes you have to go back to console and reinstall the drivers due to certain upgrades for X.org
[07:29] <Ben64> chunkyhead: unless you need a newer kernel, why upgrade?
[07:29] <ezra-s> 12.10 had lot of kernel upgrades
[07:29] <i3luefire_xubunt> my keyboard is being flaky
[07:30] <Ben64> ezra-s: security fixes
[07:30] <ezra-s> Ben64, they should have used a more stable branch then.. 3.5.... I don't really undertand why using that instead of 3.4.x
[07:30] <chunkyhead> Ben64, i want to learn more about linux(rather more abt computing) frankly only reason why i am doing it.
[07:30] <Ben64> ezra-s: you might want to check kernel.org every one is getting security fixes
[07:30] <ezra-s> but I bet they had their reasons other than being cutting edge..
[07:30] <ezra-s> Ben64, I do...
[07:31] <Ben64> ezra-s: its not even cutting edge, it's the same version each time
[07:31] <ezra-s> Ben64, cutting edge meaning using 3.5 for 12.10 when you had a stable longterm 3.4.x
[07:31] <ezra-s> Ben64, now 3.8 in 13.04 which is stable but very short term too
[07:32] <Ben64> you should do more research
[07:32] <ezra-s> in fact 3.8 is already EOL
[07:32] <ezra-s> probably I do
[07:33] <Ben64> LTS versions exist for stability
[07:33] <ezra-s> dozens of community members and developers will surely have more knowledgable reasons than I do, but I'm just wondering
[07:34] <ezra-s> Ben64, yes, I understand that, but I'm talking about the so many issues people have with propietary drivers, although they are a nuisance they are necessary in most cases
[07:34] <Ben64> proprietary drivers have nothing to do with what kernel version non-lts ubuntu releases use
[07:35] <chunkyhead> btw what happens when i compile a custom kernel instead of downloading it from ubuntu?
[07:35] <chunkyhead> Ben64, ^
[07:35] <Ben64> what do you mean
[07:36] <chunkyhead> what if i download kernel from kernel.org and compile it
[07:36] <ezra-s> Ben64, ask ceti331_
[07:36] <Ben64> chunkyhead: then you will have a newer kernel...
[07:36] <chunkyhead> instead of downloading it from kernel.ubuntu.com
[07:36] <chunkyhead> Ben64, no i mean what can be the pros and cons of that
[07:37] <Ben64> you'll probably end up breaking something
[07:37] <linelevel> Hi. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 in an LVM on a LUKS-encrypted partition. Now when I boot, I get an LVM error (it can't find /dev/mapper/vg-root, the logical volume that mounts at /) and I get dumped into an initramfs shell. Can anyone please help me figure out why my initramfs can't see my LVM volumes?
[07:37] <chunkyhead> will it be unrepairable?
[07:38] <Ben64> find out
[07:38] <ezra-s> one has to be very careful when you compile kernel yourself, but you can always check /boot config files for your actual kernels and see if  you are missing something when you are done configuring, it can be painful though
[07:39] <ezra-s> also, since you configure and compile yourself there are many things you won't need if you want to be specific for your hardware
[07:39] <ezra-s> It is not recommended unless you really know what you are doing
[07:41] <ezra-s> linelevel, are you loading lvm support in initram?
[07:41] <ezra-s> linelevel, are you loading driver for your hdd controller in your initram?
[07:47] <linelevel> ezra-s: I basically followed the instructions in this post to the letter, except with Ubuntu 12.04 and I didn't create as many LVs as that guy does: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1867970
[07:48] <mezzobob_> i use "mail" on bash to read mail how can i skip to the next mail?
[07:48] <pranav1> i was installing eclipse package. the download completed. but during installation. ubuntu went to sleep. what command should fix the reinstallation process without having me to download the entire package again ?
[07:49] <ezra-s> linelevel, is it a new install?
[07:49] <pranav1> ezra-s yes
[07:49] <linelevel> ezra-s: so to answer your questions, I do have lvm support in initram (at least, I have access to the `lvm` command, but `lvm vgscan` finds nothing)
[07:49] <linelevel> ezra-s: Yes, clean install.
[07:50] <pranav1> ezra-s i was installing eclipse package. the download completed. but during installation. ubuntu went to sleep. what command should fix the reinstallation process without having me to download the entire package again ?
[07:50] <ezra-s> linelevel, then you are missing hdd controller driver in the kernel loaded with initramfs or compiled-in the kernel
[07:50] <ezra-s> linelevel, If I recall well, there is an alternate install iso for 12.04 so you can encrypt and use LVM without much hassle
[07:51] <linelevel> ezra-s: The alternate installer doesn't support the XTS encryption mode, which is why I used this method.
[07:51] <linelevel> It only supports CBC, if I remember correctly.
[07:51] <trap24> i was installing eclipse package. the download completed. but during installation. ubuntu went to sleep. what command should fix the reinstallation process without having me to download the entire package again ?
[07:51] <ezra-s> linelevel, I see, didn't know that, sorry
[07:52] <linelevel> ezra-s: I used the normal Ubuntu installer, so I don't see why I'd be missing the hdd controller driver.
[07:52] <linelevel> have to logout, I'll be back in a moment
[07:53] <trap24> ok, i googled, its: sudo apt-get install --reinstall mypackage
[07:54] <ezra-s> linelevel, I don't see it too, but I tried to sum 2+2, if you can't see the disk, chances are you haventt loaded support to see it
[07:54] <daftykins> he's gone
[07:54] <ezra-s> ups
[07:55] <ezra-s> how rude :P
[07:56] <daftykins> ezra-s: you were being, indeed
[07:56] <ezra-s> me?
[07:56] <daftykins> yup :(
[07:56] <daftykins> you made several baby penguins cry
[07:56] <ezra-s> daftykins, surely it was not my intention
[07:56]  * ezra-s sad :(
[07:57] <daftykins> ezra-s: all is not lost, you can apologise when he/she comes back!
[07:57] <ezra-s> daftykins, but I didn't say anything rude, I was just trying to guide him to find the problem or alternatives to it
[07:57] <daftykins> ezra-s: yeah, the 2+2 bit got sorta confusing when it comes to that ;)
[07:58] <ezra-s> daftykins, that was about logical thinking in my mind, not an attack to anyone, or that's at least how I thought about it, english is not my mother language
[07:59] <intok> Ok, so I used the live CD to save files from a box that had a corrupted install after last nights storm, the files all seem to check out fine, but my actual install thinks that because the files where moved to it from the live CD that all the files are owned by root. Seeing as there are a few hundred of them, this would be a massive pain to do manually, is there an idiot proof faster way?
[07:59] <ezra-s> daftykins, and the 2+2 thing was said when he was gone already ;P
[07:59] <ezra-s> I win!
[07:59] <ezra-s> :P
[07:59] <daftykins> there is no 'win'
[07:59] <ezra-s> hehehe
[08:00] <ezra-s> daftykins, still you fail to say where I was rude to him ;P if you do a 2+2... hehehe, just kidding
[08:00] <daftykins> XD
[08:00] <daftykins> and then you subtract the number you first thought of, you get the line number where ezra was rude :O
[08:01] <ezra-s> :O
[08:01] <ezra-s> touché
[08:01]  * daftykins bows
[08:02] <ezra-s> daftykins, where I work we usually solve problems, to solve one problem you have to find out the cause behind it, if you don't enclose the problem you will never find a solution, so going ???? without wondering which are the specific possible reasons behind your problem you can always wonder around asking yourself why oh why
[08:03] <ezra-s> why me!! I didn't do anything to deserve this problem!
[08:03] <ezra-s> pitty me, problems come to me with no particular reason
[08:03] <Ben64> keep it on topic here...
[08:03]  * ezra-s goes back on topic
[08:04] <ezra-s> I apologize
[08:04] <Ben64> #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat
[08:04] <ezra-s> roger
[08:04] <chunkyhead> how to change nick on irc?
[08:04] <daftykins> Ben64: oh calm down, there's no harm whilst waiting for questions
[08:04] <daftykins>  /nick x
[08:04] <Ben64> theres rules for a reason
[08:04] <Tex_Nick> chunkyhead:  /nick newnick
[08:04] <chunkyhead> does anyone use irssi?
[08:04] <daftykins> Ben64: gives you something to do?
[08:04] <daftykins> chunkyhead: yup
[08:05] <Green_Geeky_Dude> yea the reason is "break them"
[08:05] <bazhang> daftykins, thats enough
[08:05] <chunkyhead> daftykins, thank god, how to change nick there, it's stuck to my username
[08:05] <daftykins> amusingly my client has decided to colour Green_Geeky_Dude... in green
[08:05] <Green_Geeky_Dude> YAY :-)
[08:05] <bazhang> !ot | daftykins
[08:05] <daftykins> bazhang: heard it all before pal
[08:06] <daftykins> been here years off and on, every time we do this little dance the only one continuing the convo is yourselves :)
[08:06] <vitimiti> hi o/
[08:06] <bazhang> daftykins, then you know to follow the channel rules. chit chat elsewhere NOT here
[08:06] <daftykins> now let's just await some questions
[08:06] <xro> Hi, i try do create a facebook account in empathy without success... does it work for you? I'm blocked in the authorisation phase... It open my browser -> i log in -> i get "Success
[08:06] <xro> SECURITY WARNING: Please treat the URL above as you would your password and do not share it with anyone." -> then nothing... any idea???
[08:08] <daftykins> bazhang: sigh.
[08:09] <ezra-s> how rude :P
[08:10] <ubunbo> hello
[08:10] <ubunbo> i need some help,about wine
[08:10] <matt6973> hello
[08:11] <ubunbo> My wine right-click menu disappeared, only use the command line to run win program
[08:12] <MonkeyDust> ubunbo  try logout/login
[08:13] <ubunbo> I tried, it's useless
[08:14] <dr_willis> what 'wine right click menu' are you talking about?
[08:14] <MonkeyDust> ubunbo  what filemanager and what ubuntu version?
[08:17] <ubunbo> Right-click the windows program will appear in "run the program in wine program load"
[08:17] <dr_willis> ubunbo:  the windows.exe in question has been made 'executable'' ?
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> how could i manually add applications in panel with dconf?
[08:18] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  i guess dconf is to change settings, not to add icons or applications
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: ive just readed some about whitelist indicators, so i tought maybe there was a trick for adding apps too?
[08:19] <Name141> is it true the 12.04 will be good till 2017?
[08:19] <Name141> even for desktop ?
[08:20] <daftykins> Name141: yeah 12.04.x is a Long Term Support (LTS) release
[08:20] <dr_willis> !12.04
[08:20] <daftykins> you can look up the dates they're supported until online
[08:20] <dr_willis> I never can rember the dates.. ;)
[08:20] <daftykins> same!
[08:21] <dr_willis> who wants to be using a  5 yr old os. ;) unless its CP/M
[08:21] <daftykins> server tended to be supported longer than desktop, but i think that changed at some point
[08:21] <daftykins> web hosts that have no need to change i'd say
[08:21] <Name141> dr_willis: XP is way behind 5 years.
[08:21] <daftykins> such as myself
[08:21] <Name141> er beyond
[08:21] <daftykins> nobody WANTS to be running XP :D
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: :p
[08:21] <dr_willis> XP is the zombie they keep trying to kill.. but  it just klings on
[08:22] <Ben64> xp is dying april 8th 2014
[08:22] <Name141> Anyway, I was just saying I'd want to be left alone.
[08:22] <daftykins> and it can't come sooner imo
[08:22] <Name141> If nothing was broken
[08:22] <daftykins> Name141: then exploits would be found
[08:23] <Name141> daftykins: Wut? I mean.. Left alone more than regular releases
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> Name141: all the years you run ubuntu on a machine is a win-win situation
[08:23] <Name141> Or as long as possible
[08:23] <daftykins> Name141: oic
[08:23]  * Tex_Nick thinks micro$oft is still trying to provide a better OS than XP & failing badly
[08:23] <ubunbo> ......My English is bad...Bad expression....I checked the files and permissions, and the problems have been fixed
[08:23] <NK`> hi
[08:24] <daftykins> Tex_Nick: 7 is great
[08:24] <ubunbo> However, there is still no wine right-click menu options related
[08:24] <Tex_Nick> ubuntu is best ;-)
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> true tex
[08:24] <Name141> Anyway, I'll go to the LTS instead
[08:24] <MonkeyDust> ubunbo  time to get rid of windows programs and find linux equivalents
[08:24] <NK`> how can i know the matching between ubuntu libwebkit version numbers and the official respository version numbers ?
[08:24] <Name141> Tex_Nick: I'm not sure how games are running in Steam on linux?
[08:25] <Ben64> Name141: theres a bug in steam, but other than that its working great
[08:25] <dr_willis> ubunbo:  why do you need a right click menu  item. when you can double click on the .exe and launch it.
[08:25] <Name141> Ben64: for only nVidia ?
[08:25] <Ben64> Name141: ati works too, but i have nvidia
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> Name141: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/05/half-life-2-steam-linux
[08:26] <Name141> lotuspsychje: I doubt all my games would work.
[08:26] <Name141> just the Source ones probably
[08:26] <Name141> Ben64: ATi is dead
[08:26] <Kartagis> what are the possible downsides if I edit /etc/passwd to change my username and rename my $HOME?
[08:26] <dr_willis> not all steam games are ported to linux yet. :)   but many of the good ones are
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> Name141: you can checkout playonlinux aswell
[08:27] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  i belive theres cli tools to do those changes without needing to manially edit that file
[08:27] <Kartagis> dr_willis: can you name one?
[08:27] <dr_willis> usermod perhaps? i cant recall
[08:27] <Name141> Ah, I probably wont mess with moving this machine off of 7 till I get a 650ti boost to try it.   I doubt the 6750 is going to do well.
[08:27] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  may be easier to just add a new user under the new name :)
[08:27] <Name141> Even though I'll probably keep this one 7 for games
[08:27] <Name141> though = then
[08:28] <Snypa[Work]> o/
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> Name141: dell sells alienware machines with ubuntu for gaming
[08:28] <Snypa[Work]> Need advice on a laptop I plan to buy, any hardware geeks in atm?
[08:28] <Name141> but of course the 7790's were released that beat the 650ti for $135 instead of $150.. *shrug*
[08:29] <Name141> anyway, kinda off topic I guess
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> Snypa[Work]: many machines will run smooth with 13.04
[08:30] <Name141> lotuspsychje: I doubt Unreal 4 is gonna run on that well
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> Snypa[Work]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:30] <Snypa[Work]> I was concerned about if it that weird boot thingy
[08:31] <Name141> or Cryengine 3
[08:31] <MonkeyDust> Snypa[Work]  you mean UEFI ?
[08:31] <Snypa[Work]> MonkeyDust: that's the one
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> Snypa[Work]: ##hardware might help you aswell with win8 machines and uefi
[08:33] <dr_willis> theres always ubuntu preinstalled laptops  - like from system76
[08:33] <MonkeyDust> or ZaReason
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> Name141: http://www.alienware.com/ubuntu/gaming_on_linux.aspx#tab_Gaming_On_Linux
[08:35] <Snypa[Work]> dr_willis: I would love a s76 system, alas by the time I have paid for import tax and courier fee's it wouldn't be worth it :(
[08:36] <Snypa[Work]> dr_willis: even though the weak dollers means they are sold at good value, taxes are insane :(
[08:36] <dr_willis> see what models they offer..  i think they mainly rebrand other companies stuff. ;)
[08:36] <dr_willis> or at least they used to.
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> Snypa[Work]: i would buy a cheaper laptop and insert an ssd myself and run 13.04 64-bit
[08:36] <dr_willis> ive not looked into laptops in years. ;)
[08:37] <Livo> dr_willis, yes
[08:38] <dr_willis> its hard to justify high end expensive laptops. ;) i always went with midrange then got a new one  2 years later..   for about the same $$ as a high end one and keeping it for 4 years
[08:39] <Snypa[Work]> I normally buy high-end mid range laptops :)
[08:40] <LibrePenguin> After reaching the raring desktop for Try Ubuntu, what command is issued to install raring from the terminal?
[08:41] <dr_willis> LibrePenguin:  the 'install' icon dosent work?
[08:41] <dr_willis> i think the installer is called ubiquity
[08:44] <LibrePenguin> i would like to use the CLI, dr_willis btw, what is the command for the lubuntu and xubuntu install again? I lost it in chat... Do certain repositories need to be activated for this?
[08:45] <dr_willis> theres not a text-based installer as far as i know on the live-desktop cd.
[08:45] <dr_willis> !info lubuntu-desktop
[08:45] <dr_willis> lubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop are the metapackages for lxde and xfce
[08:45] <dr_willis> they aer all part of the normal repos.
[08:46] <LibrePenguin> dr_willis, thank you. I am having trouble with DTE, so need to work from CLI for installation. What command do i need to activate the universe repo?
[08:47] <dr_willis> i think its enbled by default
[08:47] <xnode22> l
[08:47] <dr_willis> check /etc/apt/sources.list to see if its commented out or not
[08:48] <dr_willis> im not sure if the desktop live cd/dvd has ever included the text-based installer.
[08:50] <LibrePenguin> dr_willis - I can only see 3 lines in that sources file. None are the Universe line. What should the universe line look like? I will paste it in and save.
[08:51] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com or other qweb sites should show  the file for a normal install.
[08:51] <dr_willis> could be the  one on the live-cd is minimnal.
[08:51] <dr_willis> im not on a ubuntu box to check mine
[08:51] <justinbe> Ubantards
[08:52] <justinbe> Dr why u help
[08:52] <justinbe> Do get any money
[08:53] <riefs> hello
[08:55] <dr_willis> because we have nothing better to do at 3AM ;)
[08:55] <dr_willis> and i am at work right now.. ;) thats why i often have to leave in mid-support.
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: 10am here :)
[09:00] <_rsc`> hi
[09:03] <woozly> guys, how to enable/disable iptables without using 'ufw' ?
[09:03] <xro> Hi, i try do create a facebook account in empathy without success... does it work for you? I'm blocked in the authorisation phase... It open my browser -> i log in -> i get "Success
[09:03] <xro> SECURITY WARNING: Please treat the URL above as you would your password and do not share it with anyone." -> then nothing... any idea???
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> woozly: use iptables itself
[09:04] <woozly> ActionParsnip: it is always On ?
[09:04] <woozly> iptables
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> woozly: yes, the default config is to allow all traffic
[09:04] <woozly> ohh.. nice, thank you!
[09:04] <woozly> ActionParsnip: how I can check if it is working?
[09:04] <woozly> in 'ps aux' ? which proc?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> woozly: ps -ef | grep -i iptab
[09:05] <woozly> ActionParsnip: but I don't see it :(
[09:05] <dr_willis> xro:  could be  facebook has altered stuff and empathy has not been updated to work with it. You might want to check askubuntu.com to see if anyone knows of a work around
[09:05] <dr_willis> firewall is enabled.. but no default rules. ;) so evverything is allowed.
[09:05] <dr_willis> so is that On or off?  ;)
[09:08] <AndroUser> Hi all .
[09:08] <icedwater> Hmm.
[09:09] <icedwater> So my firefox just died and trying to start it again resulted in 'Bus error'.
[09:09] <icedwater> This is the second time in two days I had something alarming happen to me on my USB live disk.
[09:09] <Phoenixxl> Do any of you have experience installing MOM ?
[09:09] <dr_willis> and whats 'MOM' ?
[09:09] <icedwater> I know, I should probably install this properly onto the USB... but do you know what I can do to fix this?
[09:10] <Phoenixxl> @Willis automatic ballooning for kvm guests
[09:10] <suigeneris> hi
[09:11] <icedwater> Today it is a 'Bus error' preventing FF from starting, yesterday it was something with the squashfs that led to me being unable to apropos among other things.
[09:12] <suigeneris> I attempted to change my username by editing /etc/passwd and /etc/passwd- but apparently I screwed up and now my password is not accepted. what to do from this point?
[09:12] <icedwater> Brb.
[09:12] <Ben64> suigeneris: thats not the way to change a login name
[09:12] <suigeneris> Ben64: what do I do?
[09:12] <rymate1234> suigeneris: Ya dun goofd
[09:12] <dr_willis> hope you have a 2nd admin user handy? :)
[09:12] <Ben64> if you google "how to change username linux"
[09:13] <dr_willis> made backups of passwd?
[09:13] <rymate1234> You use the command passwd
[09:13] <Ben64> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-change-rename-user-name-id/ comes up and is the correct answer
[09:13] <Ben64> step 1. always google first
[09:13] <suigeneris> rymate1234: to change username?
[09:13] <rymate1234> No
[09:13] <rymate1234> I misread
[09:13] <Phoenixxl> I have 2 guests that do things that have low cpu requirements , and do fine with 192 mb ram .. but one of them needs to inflate to about 512 for an hour every day .. If there's other options than mom i'm open to suggestions .
[09:13] <rymate1234> the command passwd is for changing password
[09:14] <suigeneris> if I edit /etc/passwd and /etc/passwd- again, will everything revert back?
[09:14]  * suigeneris headdesks
[09:14] <Ben64> maybe
[09:15] <rymate1234> You really shouldn't go around editing files you don't know how to edit
[09:15] <dr_willis> or if you do.. you could backup those files first
[09:15] <suigeneris> sudo: unable to change to sudoers gid: Operation not permitted
[09:15] <suigeneris> :s
[09:15] <rymate1234> Good job!
[09:15] <dr_willis> hope you have a 2nd admin user handy? :)  <<<<-----
[09:16] <rymate1234> Do you have the root user handy?
[09:16] <dr_willis> failing no 2nd admin user.. time to use a live cd/recovery mode
[09:16] <Ben64> yeah you'll probably have to do it in single user mode or a livecd
[09:17] <suigeneris> what exactly do I do with livecd?
[09:17] <Ben64> edit the file back to how it was
[09:17] <suigeneris> okay
[09:18] <dr_willis> mount your  systems  / partion/   and edit the files
[09:18] <dr_willis> or chroot in and use the passwd command to set a proper password perhaps?
[09:18] <Ben64> i think the password isn't the problem... its the username
[09:21] <suigeneris> brb
[09:22] <alvesjnr> hiall. I changed my default shell using chsh, but it only works on terminal (ctr+alt+f2, e.g.) How to change the default shell on Gnome terminal (the terminal emulator on gnome desktop) ?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> alvesjnr: is there not a setting in gnome-terminal ?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> alvesjnr: http://askubuntu.com/questions/26439/how-do-i-set-fish-as-the-default-shell
[09:24] <alvesjnr> ActionParsnip: I fond an option "Run command instead of shell", but I was wondering if it is the proper way
[09:25] <alvesjnr> s/fond/found
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> alvesjnr: found using http://tinyurl.com/qaruq45
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> alvesjnr: or change the shell by editting /etc/passwd you will need to log off and on to apply it
[09:26] <dr_willis> gnome-terminal can use profiles to rin whatever shell you want
[09:26] <Ben64> why doesn't anyone want to use usermod
[09:27] <dr_willis> thats one way to make it use a specific shell
[09:27] <Ben64> editing /etc/passwd is not good
[09:27] <dr_willis> Ben64:  its not leet enough
[09:27] <alvesjnr> tks
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> alvesjnr: how come I was able to find that....?
[09:30] <Phoenixxl> So , anyone ?
[09:30] <Phoenixxl> with mom experience ?
[09:30] <rymate1234> What
[09:31] <troulouliou_dev> hi i mtrying to register on launchpad but i do not receive a confirmation email and when i m trying to log in it say "Your page was stale."
[09:31] <Biomechd> i have plenty of mom experience. they can get annoying sometimes, as i'm sure just about everyone will agree.
[09:31] <Phoenixxl> https://github.com/aglitke/mom/wiki
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: try in #launchpad
[09:32] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, ok thanks :)
[09:33] <xro> dr_willis: i checked but there is no answer! i hope facebook will work in empathy soon
[09:35] <dr_willis> could just try the latest empathy ppa
[09:35] <dr_willis> or it could be a tempary bug with facebook
[09:35] <xro> dr_willis: it looks like it a problem with the facebook authorisation!
[09:38] <woozly> guys, where to put my script, which must run when system booted and all services started?
[09:38] <woozly> (I want to store there some iptables config)
[09:39] <dr_willis> woozly:  /etc/rc.local
[09:39] <woozly> dr_willis: thank you!
[09:39] <dr_willis> but  i think theres a specific iptables config file somewhere else
[09:39] <dr_willis> !firewall
[09:40] <dr_willis> bye all..
[09:40] <Cazazo> bye
[09:41] <Aktiffisus> Hey can anybody hep me to install bitdefender antvirus for unices i know linux are too secure but i interact whith windows machines and dont want to infect them or something like that i recive that download link and dont know what i must to do my  version of ubuntu are 12.04 LTS 64 bits
[09:43] <Kartagis> hi
[09:43] <Kartagis> Ben64: I'm the guy who couldn't log in. apparently editing those files was enough
[09:43] <Aktiffisus> hi kartagiis can you help me to install bitdefender antivirus for linux i dont know how
[09:44] <music> anybody there?
[09:44] <Aktiffisus> i only recive that link and have ubuntu 12.04 http://download.bitdefender.com/SMB/Workstation_Security_and_Management/BitDefender_Antivirus_Scanner_for_Unices/Unix/Current/EN_FR_BR_RO/
[09:45] <music> has anyone installed and run skype in linux
[09:45] <Aktiffisus> i run it from software center
[09:45] <somsip> music: yes
[09:45] <Aktiffisus> and it works fine music
[09:45] <music> ok I want to use it to talk internation
[09:45] <Aktiffisus> do you have any problem?
[09:45] <music> thanks
[09:46] <Aktiffisus> talk interaction  you can open a video call for default it dont send video you must have to activate normaly
[09:46] <Kartagis> music: you want to call phones?
[09:46] <music> this is my first time here so i am just taking it all in
[09:46] <Aktiffisus> welcome
[09:47] <Aktiffisus>  i dont understand you music
[09:47] <Cazazo> music: I do use skype but the latest version doesn't work fro myself
[09:47] <daftykins> music: if you want to call internationally to a real phone, you'll need to add some 'credit'
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> music: you can use the partner repo or grab the deb from the skype site
[09:47] <music> thank you I am currently using ubuntu 12.04 and love it!!
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> music: if your OS is 64bit, yo uwill haul in quite a bit of 32bit packages for deps but apt-get and dpkg will manage this
[09:49] <Aktiffisus> you can go to updates for ubuntu and in update manager select all resources and principal server
[09:49] <Aktiffisus> or can download fro skype  and select ubuntu multitarch
[09:49] <music> I had used skype with an old usb phone some time ago and liked it but the phone started to have some issues so I opted out - am now wanting to start it up again
[09:50] <Aktiffisus> download just doble click and all go fine
[09:50] <Aktiffisus> in ubuntu skype works well but dont have facebook integration
[09:51] <Aktiffisus> Action can you help me to install bitdefender plase
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Aktiffisus: why do you need AV?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Aktiffisus: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/07/install-bitdefender-from-its-software-repository-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[09:52] <Aktiffisus> i interact whit too much windows machines and use wine and dont want risk i am new too and this have only on demand scan and trust on bitdefender
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Aktiffisus: seen that link?
[09:52] <music> I have Ubuntu 12.04 on an older dell desktop 4400 dell dimension w/ 1gig RAM so it is 32 bit  but there is a possible hardware issue I think w/ the harddrive it hangs every so often when I am on the net it will stop for a second or two and I wondere if this could have been part of my problem w/ the skype
[09:52] <Aktiffisus> let me see
[09:53] <music> I have dual boot w/ xp and ubuntu 12.04
[09:53] <Aktiffisus> let me see the link thanks action
[09:54] <music> insanity is doing the same thing and expect different result
[09:56] <Aktiffisus> hey action thanks
[09:56] <music> yes you are right
[09:56] <hyper__> hi
[10:00] <hyper__> helloo
[10:00] <hyper____> sj
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Aktiffisus: simple web searching dude....
[10:04] <Aktiffisus> yeah but i crash several times the sistem  becayyse bad websearcgubg+
[10:05] <Aktiffisus> search  i trust more on yo
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> Aktiffisus: http://tinyurl.com/qasnpmq  2nd link
[10:07] <Aktiffisus> anyway thanks to you
[10:07] <Aktiffisus> ñ_ñ
[10:09] <dinar2> hello. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet has worked , but stopped after saying : downloading release files ...
[10:09] <dinar2> with 12.04
[10:16] <yeats> dinar2: try alt-F4 to see log messages from the installer
[10:25] <Cazazo> any one here uses a wacom desk tablet under Ubuntu?
[10:26] <Cazazo> I did installed and all... but still falls short in the dpi and precision
[10:26] <Kartagis> when I use usermod, it says user xxx is used in the process yyyy
[10:30] <andrew__> newb here
[10:31] <andrew__> anyone backed up all their apps, sms etc from galaxy to ubuntu?
[10:33] <k1l_> andrew__: talking about ubuntu touch?
[10:34] <andrew__> no S@ to my ubuntu notebook
[10:34] <andrew__> s2 that is
[10:35] <andrew__> ive got a new s4 and want to put all my data to notebook and then reinstall them to s4
[10:35] <Cazazo> check this up... http://www.downloadatoz.com/howto/how-to-backup-restore-rom-on-rooted-galaxy-s-iii,101404.html
[10:35] <k1l_> andrew__: easy one. just use nandroid backup, but that is more of a android support issue
[10:36] <k1l_> andrew__: or any other backup app like titanium backup. but that all is not ubuntu related
[10:36] <andrew__> thanks <kil_> and Cazazo
[10:36] <Cazazo> np mate
[10:36] <dinar2> how can i run ubuntu 12 04 installer from debian ?
[10:36] <andrew__> i'll check them out
[10:37] <Cazazo> kk hope it helps you
[10:37] <dinar2> i have installed debian from windows 2000  , but i cannot install ubuntu from debian
[10:37] <svingegneria> hello
[10:38] <andrew__> unfortunately no Cazazo
[10:38] <andrew__> mine isnt rooted
[10:38] <Cazazo> oh kk
[10:39] <aquarat> Does anyone know if there's a PPA or repo that will allow me to install linux-images that aren't available in the standard repos?
[10:39] <aquarat> like an older version
[10:39] <aquarat> especially after a release upgrade
[10:41] <andrew__> all the googling was either rooted or cloud
[10:42] <Cazazo> andrew__: yeah I was googling it.....
[10:42] <andrew__> lol
[10:43] <andrew__> yeah i thought id do that first before coming here
[10:43] <icedwater> Hi, what do I do if my live USB starts showing "Bus error" from time to time? e.g. after running Firefox for a certain length of time it dies, and some things just don't work...
[10:44] <Cazazo> if you root yours do you void your phones guaranty??
[10:44] <bekks> yes
[10:44] <icedwater> Also on a recent disk scan /casper/initrd.lz showed "mismatch", so I'm suspecting the USB is a little crazy now.
[10:45] <andrew__> and i'm changing sim types
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> icedwater: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[10:45] <k1l_> !ot | andrew__ Cazazo
[10:45] <icedwater> ActionParsnip: I can't remember, but I only ran into this problem a few days ago.
[10:45] <icedwater> I think I did. I really have to look it up again.
[10:46] <andrew__> this ubuntu related
[10:46] <andrew__> this is....
[10:46] <Cazazo> that's a bot here....
[10:46] <k1l_> andrew__: rooting your phone and backing up is not ubuntu related.
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> icedwater: is it an install to USB, or is it the ISO transferred with a large persistance storage
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> andrew__: changing sim types in a phone is not ubuntu related
[10:47] <andrew__> im not rooting
[10:47] <icedwater> ActionParsnip: the latter, with about 10GB of persistence.
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> icedwater: I see, have you tested your RAM health?
[10:47] <k1l_> andrew__: just ask in the offtopic or in a android specialized channel. thats it
[10:47] <andrew__> nurries
[10:47] <icedwater> Oh, it could be RAM? Why?
[10:48] <icedwater> Now that you mention it it's only been on this machine... which isn't the newest.
[10:49] <icedwater> So you're saying, ActionParsnip, that it could be because the part of RAM into which the OS is loaded is slightly damaged?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> icedwater: the OS is running in RAM, if it is bad then it will cause issues
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> icedwater: also, shove the stick in another system and fsck it (unmount of course)
[10:49] <icedwater> Because the "mismatch" result came on another machine too.
[10:49] <icedwater> Yeah, I will do that, meant to check yesterday but didn't get round to it.
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> icedwater: also make another Ubuntu user adn see if it happens there too
[10:50] <ween101> Good morning and good day Is it possible to slipstream a driver into an ubuntu iso? if so could someone point me into the direction of who to go about it ?
[10:51] <icedwater> All right, logging off to test something :)
[10:51] <icedwater> Thanks ActionParsnip
[10:54] <ween101> Is there a procedure in asking a question and getting support?
[10:55] <k1l_> ween101: give as much information as you can. and wait if someone knows the answer or wants some more information
[10:57] <ween101> I have a Sager 9860 that needs to have Promise Fast Trak 378 driver installed with the OS and I was curious how to go about slipstreaming the driver in an ubuntu iso
[11:01] <Lokendra> hi ajay
[11:02] <ween101> I have a Sager 9860 that needs to have Promise Fast Trak 378 driver installed with the OS and I was curious how to go about slipstreaming the driver in an ubuntu iso
[11:03] <friendoflinux> !repeat ween101
[11:03] <bejo> night...
[11:04] <friendoflinux> !patience
[11:04] <bejo> is there a solution for Lenovo Y450 brightness??
[11:04] <bejo> i'm using ubuntu 13.04 recently
[11:05] <ween101> Appreciate the help have a great day
[11:08] <chunkyhead> hey guys i switched to kde and then i lost my default loginscreen, how to get it back? i still have unity on my computer
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> chunkyhead  it's gdm --replace, something
[11:09] <chunkyhead> umm where can i get the full command
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> i'm searching
[11:10] <chunkyhead> MonkeyDust, and isn't it lightdm for unity not gdm
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> chunkyhead  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-switch-between-gdm-and-kdm-on-ubuntu/
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> chunkyhead  no, unity is a shell for gnome3
[11:11] <chunkyhead> i dont have gdm on my computer
[11:11] <ezra-s> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:11] <chunkyhead> as far as i know i have lightdm and kdm
[11:12] <ezra-s> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[11:12] <chunkyhead> ezra-s, although i had tried that, but let me just re try it
[11:12] <chunkyhead> and then just a logoff loggon would work right? no need to restat? ezra-s
[11:14] <EvilDMP> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 10.10, and my /etc/sources.list looks like: http://dpaste.org/mD7OO/
[11:15] <EvilDMP> now whenever I try to run apt-get update I get a lot of errors and Ign, and when I try to install things I get a lot of "this package is unverified" - what is my problem here?
[11:16] <makara> Hi. Alternative graphics program that can do 'trace' function like in Adobe Illustrator?
[11:16] <bourbon102rus> q
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> EvilDMP  10.10 is no longer valid, available or supported
[11:16] <bourbon102rus> hi
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrades | EvilDMP
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> EvilDMP: same deal if you try and get Windows updates for Windows 98. They are both no longer supported in any way
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> EvilDMP: I suggest a clean install of Precise which is LTS and supported til April 2017
[11:19] <EvilDMP> so in effect, there is *no way around this* other than to upgrade the entire system?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> EvilDMP: the install you have will work, there are just zero updates or packages for it and zero community support anywhere
[11:20] <EvilDMP> well, it's working, it's our web server, but building a new one is not something I'm looking forward to doing
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> EvilDMP: just build a new box and restore the configs from backup then fail it over
[11:21] <EvilDMP> ActionParsnip: OK, thanks
[11:22] <EvilDMP> I'm almost tempted to do-release-upgrade as it suggests...
[11:22] <EvilDMP> (not really)
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> EvilDMP: if it was on Lucid (the previous release) you would still have 2 years support
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> EvilDMP: I recommend you keep to LTS releases for production servers
[11:23] <EvilDMP> ActionParsnip: I shall do in future
[11:23] <EvilDMP> what is the advantage of Ubuntu over Debian for a server like this? I don't use a desktop interface for it at all
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> EvilDMP: http://geekyschmidt.com/2011/03/11/debian-server-vs-ubuntu-server
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> EvilDMP: for a web box, i wouldn't expect to see much between the two (imho)
[11:28] <EvilDMP> thanks for your advice ActionParsnip
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> EvilDMP: any time
[11:30] <chunkyhead> didnt work ezra-s MonkeyDust
[11:31] <ezra-s> chunkyhead, but your login screen works right? is it lightdm or kdm?
[11:32] <chunkyhead> yeah but i want lightdm can i not get that ezra-s
[11:33] <ezra-s> chunkyhead, you just want to use lightdm right? have you removed kdm? "sudo apt-purge kdm"?
[11:33] <ezra-s> sorry, error, it is apt-get purge kdm
[11:39] <colhester> hi guys. i want to ask something. i need to recover my server's sudo password via ssh. i read that i can do so on the recovery mode but is this possible via ssh? any other ways to recover?
[11:40] <bekks> colhester: The sudo password is the password of the user running sudo.
[11:41] <SwedeMike> colhester: you can boot the server and as root, change the password. Allowing this to be changed remotely without a valid user login is like the movies having an "override security" button.
[11:41] <makara> Hi. I want to change my login name. I have some instructions to do it, but the first one doesn't work. "killall -u old_name". How can I open a terminal without being old_name to even issue the first command?
[11:41] <[OS]Cazazo> any one here uses a wacom desk tablet under Ubuntu?
[11:41] <bekks> SwedeMike: the root account is disabled by default.
[11:41] <colhester> thanks
[11:42] <SwedeMike> bekks: I am aware of that, but if you boot and do stuff frmo within the initrd, you'll be root anyway.
[11:42] <colhester> when i try to change the password it asks for the sudo password...
[11:42] <bekks> colhester: rebooting for chaning a users password is - overkill :)
[11:43] <SwedeMike> colhester: just type in the password of the user you're currently logged in as.
[11:44] <nam3> .
[11:46] <xomjak> hi
[11:48] <xomjak> Please help to deal with porting Ubuntu Tuch on Samsung Infuse!
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> !touch | xomjak
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:53] <applecider> anyone knowledgeable about hosted servers?
[11:54] <Ben64> !anyone | applecider
[11:55] <applecider> Anyone know much about hosted servers?
[11:55] <sawjig> Does anybody get tired of being told what to do but a bot?
[11:55] <sawjig> s/but/by
[11:55] <Ben64> sawjig: this is a volume business, it saves time
[11:55] <Ben64> applecider: read what the bot just said
[11:56] <sawjig> Does anyone read what the bot says?
[11:56] <Ben64> yes
[11:56] <applecider> do i use the command like "!anyone questiontoask"? im new to irc
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> sawjig  we don't the bot to feel ignored
[11:56] <Ben64> applecider: no, you need to ask a question though
[11:56] <SwedeMike> applecider: no, you're supposed to ask the question you want answer to.
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> sawjig  we don't want the bot to feel ignored
[11:57] <applecider> !anyone
[11:57] <sawjig> lol
[11:57] <pybe> applecider: ask your question about hosted servers
[11:57] <applecider> ok, im wondering if AWS is suitable to host a commercial vpn
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> sawjig  the bot helps us to prevent getting tired of giving the same answers and information over and over again; plus: the bot's information is more complete
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> and it's faster
[11:59] <applecider> anyone know?
[12:00] <sawjig> MonkeyDust, yeah faster than all this conversation we're having about it :3
[12:00] <Ben64> applecider: thats not really an ubuntu issue... but probably. lots of companies use amazon
[12:00] <sawjig> applecider, kind of a vague question, there are probably much cheaper options though.
[12:01] <sawjig> especially if you're just looking to route your traffic through it..
[12:01] <jamw> when I reboot my ubuntu 12.10, it gives an error about low graphic card then ask me to select one of these options http://oi39.tinypic.com/5kf6ds.jpg however, it is not possible to select any of them although I press all buttons on the keyboard. It reacts to only "esc" bu then it returns a black screen where I can type stuff but it does not continue to any other screen. However, currently I am using windows and the graphic card works fine
[12:01] <jamw> it is possible to boot ubuntu on recovery mode, and possible to drop on root shell. could anyone tell me how I can fix graphic card error?
[12:02] <jamw> what command do I need for configuring the graphic card?
[12:02] <jony_easyrider> again... this is my fifth memory stick broken, what's happening?
[12:02] <Ben64> jamw: have you ever gotten into ubuntu?
[12:02] <ezra-s> jamw, the specified driver is not loading well, are you using external binary from nvidia/amd?
[12:02] <jamw> yeah I have been using that ubuntu for 2 years
[12:02] <Ben64> jony_easyrider: stop breaking them
[12:03] <applecider>  I plan on running ubuntu on the server, so its related. Im worried about data records basically. I dont want amazon logging anything that the server does. Are there better alternatives?
[12:03] <jamw> I am not using any external device, the graphic card on the laptop is ati radeon
[12:03] <Ben64> applecider: get a dedicated server then
[12:03] <jony_easyrider> it's very strange... other say that they have very old sticks and they are functioning
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> jony_easyrider  don't use their sticks, you could break those, too
[12:04] <applecider> admittedly im new to the hardware aspects, so which provider would you recommend? also what specs would i need to support 2000, 10000 and 20000 users respectively
[12:05] <Ben64> applecider: you'd be better off finding a more appropriate channel. #ubuntu is for solving ubuntu problems
[12:05] <Ben64> !alis | applecider
[12:05] <mchlbhm> Hey, anyone know how to get my cam to work with chatroulette?
[12:06] <jony_easyrider> MonkeyDust, I already tried Kingmax, Kingston, A-Data and Corsair
[12:06] <jamw> does anyone suggest me what command to execute on the root shell to fix the graphic card's setting?
[12:06] <Ben64> jamw: what did you do between it working fine and now?
[12:07] <applecider> thanks for the help anyway
[12:08] <mchlbhm> It's annoying because it works fine in cheese, but the second I try to use it on the web (chromium and firefox) it's suddenly not detected.
[12:08] <jamw> Ben64: I was using google chrome and watching youtube video, then suddenly google chrome collapsed but ubuntu was working fine. I tried to open google chrome many times but it did not open. Then I reboot ubuntu then I started to get the graphic card problem
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> jamw  try replacing google chrome with chromium-browser
[12:10] <jamw> Ben64: the graphic card should be working fine since I am using the same laptop now. Something should change video card's setting, but I don't know how to configure it via the terminal
[12:10] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> just did a shrink on winblows partition and grew Ubuntu! ,everything work, microsift winblows <- lol and Ubuntu.., But how can i do a proper check of my ext4 /dev/sda3 and a surface scan so if there is any bad spots on the harddrive to mark them and not use them?
[12:12] <jamw> MonkeyDust: I will do it when it is able to boot normally again. But it does not boot correctly because of the graphic card's settings. would you have any suggestion what to execute on the shell prompt to reconfigure the graphic card?
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> jamw  in the grub menu, select recovery mode, then Repair
[12:13] <jamw> MonkeyDust: I did it, but it did not help, I also did start with Failsafe Graph or something like that, it also did not help
[12:13] <jamw> the only thing I can do is to drop into the root shell
[12:15] <str> Hi, I'm getting this error with empathy where it keeps me telling my accounts require authorisation, but I already gave authorization to it.  What should I do?
[12:17] <shafox> I have accidentally deleted some of my file system folders including bin,boot . how can i recover all those without reinstalling again ? i am on lubuntu 12.04
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> !recover
[12:23] <aguitel> how upgrade firefox in lucid?
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> aguitel lucid for desktop is no longer upgraded
[12:25] <ezra-s> you can try downloading firefox from the web and do a "local" install
[12:25] <aguitel> MonkeyDust, in this old laptop only lucid works
[12:25] <ezra-s> aguitel, ^^
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> aguitel  works, but is no longer upgraded
[12:26] <SonikkuAmerica> aguitel: Have you tried Xubuntu or Lubuntu? They might have a better chance of working...
[12:26] <aguitel> only lucid with gnome 2.x run
[12:27] <aguitel> no other sh...it
[12:27] <inahd> hey all,
[12:27] <SonikkuAmerica> aguitel: That doesn't answer my quesitonl.
[12:27] <SonikkuAmerica> *question
[12:27] <ezra-s> aguitel, I repeat, have you tried going to firefox.com , download the tar you can get there and use that?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: tried Precise with XFCE?
[12:27] <aguitel> ezra-s, no
[12:28] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, only kernel 2.6.32 series run in this laptop smoly
[12:29] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, this laptop was made in 2003
[12:29] <inahd> can anyone help me with my ice1712 soundcard and jackctl setup? seems like i can't get pulseaudio to work for jack AND anything else. even after i quit jack no sound will come
[12:29] <aguitel> sony vaio pcg-frv35
[12:30] <foo357> Hello I've got a computer running ubuntu where the network interface (eth0) hasn't been brought up (ever) when I try to bring it up by simply: "sudo ifup eth0" I get an error message: "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[12:30]  * ezra-s chuckles
[12:30] <Cerepel> hello. Is there any way to put all users in the same group, or combine two groups ?
[12:30] <ezra-s> foo357, you sure you have a driver that supports that?
[12:31] <ezra-s> Cerepel, adduser USER GROUP
[12:32] <foo357> ezra-s I guess it's the mothercard's onboard hardware, how could drivers be an issue?
[12:33] <ezra-s> foo357, if you don't have a driver that recognizes your ethernet card you won't ever have eth0
[12:33] <inahd> seems like it might be a pulseaudio issue...
[12:34] <ezra-s> foo357, it could be a motherboard issue too of course
[12:34] <foo357> ezra-s: it should be intel hardware and very standard, so how do I fix any possible driver shortcomings?
[12:34] <mezzobob_> ubottu: have an upvote
[12:35] <ezra-s> foo357, do a lspci | grep -i ethernet
[12:40] <foo357> ezra-s: the last line output by 'lspci' says: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57788 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 01)
[12:42] <gumble_> hey, can anyone tell me how to add a folder outside the home folder to ubuntu one to be synced?
[12:44] <foo357> ezra-s: I have a parallel installation of Windows 7 on the machine, and when  I go to the network control panel where the network h/w should show up I see nothing, kinda strange I think since Windows should throw in necessary drivers (and this pc was also vendor-bought)
[12:44] <SonikkuAmerica> foo357: (Windows support on FreeNode is in ##windows)
[12:45] <foo357> SonikkuAmerica: ok I will try there to, thanks.
[12:45] <ezra-s> foo357, I recall, it was possible for motherboard to completely disable the card if it didn't find a cable connected to it at boot, don't know if that's the case or If I'm recalling badly, but you may check that easily
[12:58] <KuuuuuuH> Hey i want you to help me!
[12:58] <KuuuuuuH> Hey who there?s
[12:59] <TheHackOps> yeh go for tango
[12:59] <ezra-s> KuuuuuuH, ask away
[13:06] <anton_eh> I have rkhunter installed - after running "rkhunter --versioncheck" in a terminal the output states "...update available" does anyone know how I would access and install this update?
[13:07] <ddssc> hey I bound a remote server in nautilus using ssh. problem is other programs cant access this drive. how do I enable these bound drives to be visible in other programs, such as text editors etc?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> anton_eh  rkunter is in the repos, simply do: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade -- if you want something newer, you'd need a PPA, but that's not supported here
[13:09] <anton_eh> ok thanks
[13:18] <Malsasa> Hello, I have tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys for mapping some of my key into my broken keys' fungtions. Nah, all work like a charm! But, only one. My menu key (not Super) only detected outside Libreoffice. In Gedit and Terminal, it works like a charm! But in Libreoffice, not works properly. I bind Delete and ) on my menu key. The Delete function works! But the ) function (Shift+Menu key) not works on Libreoffice.
[13:18] <Malsasa>  Just the Shift+Menu key not works. How do I solve this problem? Thank you.
[13:21] <Chrono_> Hello
[13:26] <foo357> Hello,I've got a computer that got a Broadcom BCM57788 network hardware. I don't know if there's any drivers for it, how can I check it?
[13:28] <ddssc> is this a viable way to install netbeans in ubuntu? http://www.tecmint.com/install-netbeans-in-ubuntu-and-linux-mint/
[13:30] <somsip> ddssc: just unzip to /usr/local/ or /opt and create a symlink from /usr/local.bin
[13:30] <somsip> ddssc: actually, if it's the .sh I think it installs to /usr/local
[13:36] <carif> systemd has appeared on my raring machine, i assume this is a stripped down version that doesn't do what upstart does, correct?
[13:36] <KuuuuuuH> Hey! Who there?
[13:36] <nW44b> i want to change the default session, without using any graphical help. I changed /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf. This line : user-session=ubuntu into user-session=ratpoison. I changed ~/.dmrc as well … : Session=ubuntu into Session=ratpoison. But when i restart the computer it goes on unity. What's missing ?
[13:36] <KuuuuuuH> I want you to help about network.
[13:37] <umar_>  Will the security updates of Ubuntu Precise and Raring ring tail be added to Ubuntu Saucy ?
[13:38] <ezra-s> umar_, they will already be included unless they find their way back in, yes
[13:38] <umar_> "they will already be included unless they find their way back in" Please explain the sentence in quotations,thank you.
[13:41] <ezra-s> umar_, developing is incremental, you develop , you patch over, with newer versions and newer features some developers may accidentaly make more of the old mistakes... but that doesnt have to happen
[13:41] <umar_> thank you
[13:41] <ezra-s> lol
[13:51] <KuuuuuuH> Hey i have a 2 active network , 1 is a lan for connect to my work ntwork for remote to server only, 2 is a my phone modem for access internet . I want to set ubuntu for this! I change defaule gate way to my phone modem but if i do it ' i can't to rem
[13:51] <KuuuuuuH> Remote to rdp on my work network '  .  How to set it
[13:51] <KuuuuuuH> ?
[13:53] <KuuuuuuH> Please help me.
[13:53] <AtuM> KuuuuuuH, use FQDN names and include both DNS nameservers from those networks to your /etc/resolv.conf
[13:53] <ezra-s> KuuuuuuH, since you are capable of changing default gw you could as well add a specific route for your rdp
[13:54] <KuuuuuuH> Oh!
[13:55] <KuuuuuuH> DNS on my work network : like , abc.com
[13:55] <KuuuuuuH> Or ip
[13:56] <AtuM> IP
[13:57] <KuuuuuuH> Ip for phone modem that ip is set to 10.6.6.6 ?
[13:57] <KuuuuuuH> That it ip for internet.
[13:57] <Phryq> hey
[13:57] <Phryq> I'm trying to learn a new language with this site, http://www.memrise.com/course/359/beginners-russian/2/garden/grow/
[13:58] <Phryq> and sometimes when I click the little speaker button to play a recording of the word, so I know how it sounds, it works. Most times it doesn't or it plays after 1 or 2 minutes
[13:58] <Phryq> I've tried it in Firefox, Chrome, Midori, and Epiphany browsers.
[13:58] <titlesarehard> Is port 80 block (or anything for that matter) by default for ubuntu
[13:58] <KuuuuuuH> Ezra-s : special route for rdp i don't know how to set it .
[13:58] <Phryq> Anyone able to help me?
[13:59] <titlesarehard> *blocked
[13:59] <AtuM> KuuuuuuH, try connecting to RDP using IP... if you need a gw for it to work then you should add a route.
[13:59] <drc0p> Phryq: yes
[13:59] <Phryq> thanks so much
[14:00] <Walex2> Phryq: it could be simply some delay in downloading.
[14:00] <Phryq> hmmm, so if it's as you say Walex , there's nothing I can do about it, right?
[14:00] <foo357> I have a Win7 computer that I want to be part of a domain. I've got a linux machine running samba which would enable people to log in onto any clients using one account. When I enter in the client that it's in domain "foobar" I get a promt about entering credentials for a user who can log onto the domain. What kind of account would that be?
[14:01] <pigman> new guy here  hi!
[14:01] <drc0p> foo357: take the.
[14:02] <AtuM> foo357, you mix domain with file share service.. get those facts right first
[14:02] <pigman> my  ubuntu 13.04 desktop unity
[14:02] <KuuuuuuH> AtuM: set route in network connection for my lan , and how to set only rdp .please sample it . Sorry i 'm new for network.
[14:02] <pigman> just  can not work
[14:03] <pigman> rdp？
[14:04] <AtuM> KuuuuuuH, a sample: route add -host 10.10.10.1 gw 192.168.18.20
[14:05] <KuuuuuuH> Ok. It look like ... 192.168.11.1/port ?
[14:05] <AtuM> KuuuuuuH, that is not usable for sure.. but it's a sample
[14:05] <KuuuuuuH> Hmm.
[14:05] <AtuM> KuuuuuuH, routes have nothing to do with ports
[14:06] <KuuuuuuH> Oh! I so newbie.
[14:06] <AtuM> KuuuuuuH, you're asking wrong questions.. you should first get to know how network works and what routes are...
[14:07] <titlesarehard> Just installed apache2 what could be some reasons that it is not listening on port 80?
[14:08] <Phryq> Is there a way for me to test whether it's a simple download delay?
[14:08] <KuuuuuuH> Ok. My network on work is .myip 192.168.2.36 sub: 255 Gw: 192.168.2.1 / on my phone to access internet is 10.6.6.6 not set gatway.
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> titlesarehard: service not running?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> titlesarehard: firewall
[14:10] <KuuuuuuH> Default gate way is to my work gw.
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> titlesarehard: different port being used
[14:10] <titlesarehard> I ran the command to start service. How do i check to make sure it is running?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> titlesarehard: sudo service apache2 status      or whatever the service is called (use TAB to autocomplete it)
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> titlesarehard: you could also nmap the server to see what ports are listening
[14:14] <AtuM> KuuuuuuH, if you want internet to work, you should have the default gateway set to the modem, not work network.. then for the subnet you need to reach on your work network, you should define a route that points to the work network.. i suppose your remote rdp server has an ip that's not in the subnet of your work-lan connection. it it's on the same subnet then no extra route is needed
[14:14] <kurac> hi can somone help me wht grml-rescuboot  it seys to put iso in /boot/grml but it only hes  1gb speace and i want to put 3gb iso  can i put some shorcut or magic link
[14:16] <AtuM> KuuuuuuH, you might want to learn the basics.. http://www.policyrouting.org/PolicyRoutingBook/ONLINE/CH01.web.html (some examples, no need to read the whole book)
[14:16] <KuuuuuuH> AtuM: thank you.
[14:16] <titlesarehard> So the service is indeed not starting running even after i start it. Would this mean something is misconfigued?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> titlesarehard: check the log file for the service
[14:17] <kurac> hi can somone help me wht grml-rescuboot  it seys to put iso in /boot/grml but it only hes  1gb speace and i want to put 3gb iso  can i put some shorcut or magic link
[14:17] <AtuM> kurac, what are you trying to do anyways?
[14:18] <lANCE> hello
[14:18] <Guest37106> how do I do an ipconfig /registerdns  or the equivalent in ubuntu 12.04 lts
[14:19] <th0r> Guest37106: and that does what exactly?
[14:20] <Guest37106> I need to update srv records for a client pc..
[14:20] <AtuM> kurac, http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=rescueboot  - I don't think this is an ubuntu issue
[14:20] <kurac> AtuM:  i want to load bactrack in the grub when i try to manual manyentry i am doing somting wrog and it dosent work iso i wanted to do it auto whit grml-rescuboot  but in boot ther is only 1gb  speace and bactrack is 3gb.iso socan somone give me a working mayentry for bactrack  or help me to link  or can i resize boot?
[14:21] <AtuM> link won't do because boot loaders don't see it's targets
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> kurac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[14:21] <Guest37106> any ideas?
[14:22] <kurac> ActionParsnip:  i know the i read it and i created monyetry thet works for ubuntu,kubuntu,kali,benini, but bactrack wont work
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> kurac: I'd ask in #backtrack-linux then
[14:23] <Guest37106> ipconfig /registerdns
[14:23] <kurac> fu
[14:24] <Guest37106> whats the ubuntu equivalent?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest37106: could restart the networking service
[14:27] <Guest37106> Thanks
[14:27] <BrixSat> Hello, i have a folder with big files that are regulary changed and i want to make a rsync, but rsync send all the file not just the small change. Any process to make that happen?
[14:29] <mbeierl> Guest37106, "pconfig /registerdns command refreshes all DHCP address leases and registers all related DNS names configured and used by the client computer."  That would simply be restarting the network as mentioned, or doing an ifdown / ifup of the interface
[14:29] <compdoc> BrixSat, you have the same files stored on another drive? Rsync should only copy the changed files
[14:30] <BrixSat> compdoc:  the rsync changes the modified files, but assume you have 2 gb files and transfer them via network is slow even if only 1 byte changed.
[14:30] <compdoc> oh, you expect rsync to copy a changed byte. thats not going to happen
[14:31] <TitlesAreHard> would 128mb memory be enough to run a small ubuntu lamp setup (its a vps that i got super cheap)?
[14:31] <timholum> I am having an interesting issue, I have a flash drive, I am running an rsync to it, it runs perfict for a few hundred files the filesystem becomes read only. I have to unmount it and remount it in order to get it writable again. any idea's?
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> BrixSat  rsync is the fastest way you'll find
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> BrixSat  rsync -a to only copy modified files   (-a means archive)
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[14:32] <BrixSat> MonkeyDust:  im doing rsync -avz file destination:~/ any other parameter im thinking?
[14:32] <Lajjla> Say I mount a second drive to /home/username/, this will go alright without complaining?
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> BrixSat  try --progress (that's double -)
[14:32] <Lajjla> Like, it'snot even a partition, my computer has two drives, I want to run the OS on an SSD but keep home a spinning wheel thing
[14:33] <BrixSat> MonkeyDust:  that will  show the progress, and this is running in crontab so not interesting :p
[14:33] <bodom> Hi there. Any idea why my just upgraded ubuntu wants to be upgraded?
[14:33] <Lajjla> Well, scratch that, mount the drive to /home/ and have a folde /username/ in it
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> BrixSat  then the v isnt interesting either :)
[14:33] <BrixSat> right :)
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> what fun and joy, discussing technical issues :)
[14:34] <BrixSat> well i still have to find another alternative to rsync
[14:34] <decci> Anyone who have installed syscfg (dell dtk iso) onto ubuntu. I could see RPMs packages in the ISO.
[14:34] <BrixSat> rsync is not working well :p
[14:37] <mbeierl> Lajjla, yes, you can use different devices at any mount point.  But if /home/username already exists on the SSD, you will need to move its contents over to the HDD in order for it to be seen once mounted
[14:37] <Lajjla> mbeierl, hmm, if you mount to a mount point, it merges contents basically?
[14:37] <Lajjla> Like, the file system displays the actual and the mounted content in one folder?
[14:37] <KuuuuuuH> AtuM:
[14:38] <titlesarehard> Would 128mb of memory be enough to run a small ubuntu lamp setup (its a vps i got for cheap)?
[14:38] <BrixSat> titlesarehard:  for testing or personal use yes, otherwise  NO!
[14:40] <WeThePeople> tunapie2 not working, just freezes up
[14:40] <WeThePeople> i have to force-quit
[14:40] <`brendan> anyone running an hp blade 420c gen8 with ubuntu 12.04? having issues with the networking
[14:40] <mbeierl> Lajjla, no.  The mount replaces the content
[14:41] <mbeierl> Lajjla, for example, if I have /home/user/file1 on the SDD, then I mount a partition of the HDD as /home/user, I will only see the contents of the HDD under /home/user.  /home/user/file1 will become unreachable
[14:42] <Lajjla> mbeierl, okido, thanks.
[14:42] <Chrono_> anyone able to assist a newling?
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> Chrono_  start with a question
[14:44] <Chrono_> Hmm, well, this may not be the proper channel to ask this question but can someone explain the difference in linux "Flavors"?
[14:45] <nldimitris> does anybody knows what happends after an update to my old files in my hard drive ??
[14:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Chrono_: Gladly! The short answer is: Different desktop environments, same Ubuntu!
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> Chrono_  different look and feel, like wearing a different jacket -- lubuntu is lighter than ubuntu
[14:45] <mbeierl> chrob, http://www.linuceum.com/Distros/osLinuxDistros.php
[14:46] <mbeierl> sorry, ^ Chrono_
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> Chrono_  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[14:47] <DJones> Chrono_: Thats probably a better question to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, but effectivly, a distribution is Ubuntu/Debian/Slackware/Red Hat/Centos etc, a flavour is for example Ubuntu but split into Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu etc with different desktop environments
[14:47] <mbeierl> Chrono_, similar to how there are different phones you can get - different options on each, but all are cell phones
[14:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Chrono_: We currently have, as well as Unity, flavors that use GNOME, KDE, XFCE, and LXDE. Special versions also exist: (a) Ubuntu !Studio for digital audio workstations, graphic and video design, (b) !Mythbuntu for MythTV PVRs, (c) Edubuntu for educational settings, and (d) Kylin (for China)
[14:47] <SonikkuAmerica> (c) should read !Edubuntu
[14:48] <mbeierl> And... I just realized I was answering the question "what's a distro", not "what's a flavour"....
[14:48] <Chrono_> SonikkuAmerica: would there be a stability issue if I want all flavors installed?   (well, can all falvors be installed under one kernel?)
[14:49] <Chrono_> DJones: thank you sir, I will be sure to move my questions over there :-)
[14:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Chrono_: Yes! (Each DE is its own metapackage as well)
[14:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Chrono_: Let's take it into -offtopic
[14:50] <mbeierl> Clarification, Chrono: Yes, you can, No there won't be stability issues
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> Chrono_  you can, but the login menu would become very long
[14:50] <Chrono_> SonikkuAmerica: ok :-)
[14:53] <WeThePeople> does anybody have tunapie2 working in 12.04.2 x64
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> !info tunapie
[14:56] <WeThePeople> what the other ubuntu package for media besides restricted xtras?
[14:56] <WeThePeople> monkeydust, is there a alternative to tunapie for icecast streams
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> WeThePeople  there used to be medibuntu, don't know if it still exists
[14:57] <WeThePeople> monkeydust, thats the one thanks
[14:57] <linelevel> Hi. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 in an LVM on a LUKS-encrypted partition. Now when I boot, I get an LVM error (it can't find /dev/mapper/vg-root, the logical volume that mounts at /) and I get dumped into an initramfs shell. Can anyone please help me figure out why my initramfs can't see my LVM volumes?
[14:59] <zlude> Hello! i have a ubuntu server running proftpd and i need to be able to upload files more larger than 500GB in a single connection. But when i try just upload 3GB file, it can't be possible. I get "FTP no transfer timeout, disconnected - FTP session closed - notice: error closing '/test/anything.iso': Input/output error" Any ideas? Log: http://pastebin.com/xHrh5Mkb (nobody is replying on #proftpd channel)
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> zlude: tried sftp?
[15:00] <cardet> hello world
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> zlude: what file system holds the ftp uploaded files?
[15:01] <xro> Hi, i still try to get my facebook account working with empathy... i cannot get authorization... do you know this bug --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center-signon/+bug/1180297/comments/4
[15:01] <quazimodo> random apt-get stuck at 0% waiting for headers , seems to solve itself randomly
[15:01] <quazimodo> anyone having thstroubleb too on 12.04?
[15:02] <k1l> quazimodo: just give it some time
[15:03] <Gin_ichimaru> hello
[15:05] <xro> bug 1180297 --> workaround, let use http.... but that sucks
[15:06] <zlude> ActionParsnip, it's a amazon s3 repo mounted in my machine and is the homedir from ftp user .
[15:07] <linelevel> (bump) Hi. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 in an LVM on a LUKS-encrypted partition. Now when I boot, I get an LVM error (it can't find /dev/mapper/vgcrypt-root, the logical volume that mounts at /) and I get dumped into an initramfs shell. Can anyone please help me figure out why my initramfs can't see my LVM volumes?
[15:07] <linelevel> I followed this guide almost to the letter, the only differences being  that I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 instead of 11.10 and  made less LVs than this guide does (I made 3: swap, root, & home): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1867970
[15:10] <AndChat|445556> Hi
[15:10] <hillary> what command can i use to kill an hanging application
[15:11] <AndChat|445556> How to run dell dtk on ubuntu
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> hillary  pkill [program name]
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> AndChat|445556  what's dtk?
[15:12] <xro> hillary, maybe kill
[15:12] <AndChat|445556> Dell toolkit for system management
[15:12] <hillary> still can quit with pkill fileZilla
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> AndChat|445556  sure there's no system management in ubuntu itself?
[15:14] <mbeierl> AndChat|445556, if that's an MS Windows toolkit published by Dell, that answer is most likely you cannot.
[15:14] <hillary> am trying to quit filezilla but it is sturbon
[15:15] <AndChat|445556> It's dell open manage system toolkit
[15:15] <milan> How to get Ubuntu eyecandy on Ubuntu 13.04??
[15:15] <hillary> am using ubuntu 12.04
[15:15] <AndChat|445556> Deployment toolkit
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> !eyecandy | milan
[15:15] <gry> Are the repositories down? I get http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main - connection failed.
[15:16] <xro> hillary, install htop than browse and kill all filezilla
[15:16] <AndChat|445556> I am able to use dtk on rpm based redhat but not sure if it is tried in ubuntu
[15:16] <mbeierl> hillary, just "killall filezilla", then if nothing "killall -9 filezilla"
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> hillary  try killall filezilla*
[15:17] <xro> bug 1180297 --> am I the only one that disagree with  "sending password in clear text" ?
[15:17] <DouglasK> I've got an older box (running ubuntu 10.04 LTS, server), after running for a couple hours, the network slows right down on it.  Other machines on the network are fine, load averages on the affected box are under .2.  Any idea where I should start looking for the issue?
[15:17] <milan> What about Myunity i think it doesnt support raring??
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> hillary: xkill   and you can click the app to kill it
[15:17] <linelevel> (bump + more info) Hi. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 in an LVM on a LUKS-encrypted partition. Now when I boot, I get an LVM error (it can't find /dev/mapper/vgcrypt-root, the logical volume that mounts at /) and I get dumped into an initramfs shell. I can manually run  `cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda2 pvcrypt` and exit the shell and it works, but I can't figure out how to get it to prompt me  for the LUKS passphrase automatically. Can anyo
[15:17] <linelevel> ^ Did my post  above cut off?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> milan  13.04 has unity-tweak-tool
[15:17] <mbeierl> hillary, "ps aux | grep filezilla" ... does the process state it is in "D" state?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> hillary: or:   killall filezilla
[15:18] <mbeierl> linelevel, probably no one knows the answer right now, sorry....
[15:18] <milan> Do you mean ubuntu tweak??
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> linelevel  if you're not getting an answer, it means nobody knows
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> milan  13.04 has unity-tweak-tool
[15:19] <milan> ok
[15:19] <linelevel> mbeierl: MonkeyDust: No worries, I realize that, and did not mean to spam. I just wanted to update my question with my lastest info.
[15:19] <prashant_123456> i have speakers attached to rear jack and headphones attached to front jack and when i play song both are playing at the same time and i need to configure it one at a time i.e i want to play audio either from front jack or from rear jack. dont want to play audio at the same time.
[15:19] <linelevel> I will post on Ubuntu Forums, and maybe try back here later in the day.
[15:20] <milan> thanx MonkeyDust i have checked out Gnome look cool themes again thanx a lot
[15:20] <mbeierl> linelevel, I see that now.  And it does seem to be an odd case of it not automatically starting the cryptsetup, but that's way out of my league
[15:21] <mbeierl> prashant_123456, are you sure the sound card is capable of controlling them independantly?
[15:24] <prashant_123456> mbeierl, yes i do it in windows environment.
[15:25] <bodom> anyone?
[15:27] <hillary> Thanks this "ps aux | grep filezilla" helped
[15:32] <gry> (resent) Are the repositories down? I get http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main - connection failed.
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> gry  locally, maybe
[15:33] <DJones> gry: Looks like that is down, I'm not getting any response from it
[15:33] <dualBoot> hello , I am trying to install dual boot  Ubuntu 13.10 next to win 8 pre install . Is it possible , could some one give me advises. thanks in advance .regards
[15:33] <Guest54404> Hi, i have a small problem on different computers, and i can't find a solution for it with search engines, my problem is that i can't login when the screen of lightdm is locked, but i could use the login screen when i choose "switch user" and login on the start screen, where i could choose a user to login and so on .. i am not sure where there could be a problem causing this ..
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> dualBoot  you mean 13.04, i take it
[15:35] <gry> DJones: ok, I did %s/au/uk/g on sources.list and it probably works
[15:35] <dualBoot> MonkeyDust i confirm 13.10
[15:35] <gry> yup
[15:37] <betrayd> Guest54404: so on lightdm (when you startup normally) you STILL have to 'switch user' before you can get in?
[15:37] <iShotz> Can someone help me?
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> dualBoot  then ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:38] <iShotz> huh
[15:38] <Guest54404> betrayd: no, only when the screen is locked
[15:38] <alocer> how can i solve mkvmerge sound delay problem :((
[15:38] <dualBoot> thanks MonkeyDust
[15:39] <iShotz> Yesterday I deleted the partition for Xubuntu, (I was dual booting with Windows 8) and when i turn my PC on, it says grub rescue> and won't let me do anythng
[15:39] <iShotz> apart from type
[15:40] <VisCOUS> Woah. That's some weighty shit. Did you google it?
[15:40] <Guest54404> betrayd: i could login when startup normally
[15:40] <SonikkuAmerica> iShotz: Do you only want Windows or do you want to put something else there?
[15:41] <iShotz> Only Windows
[15:41] <alocer> iShotz: when booting from live media select "boot from first hard disk" it should bring up linux .
[15:41] <iShotz> Yeah
[15:41] <iShotz> I'm in my Xubuntu live CD now
[15:41] <alocer> from windows boot disc select repait
[15:42] <alocer> repair
[15:42] <SonikkuAmerica> iShotz: OK... so reboot with your Windows 8 disc, select Repair, get to a command prompt, type in "bootrec /fixmbr" and then "bootrec /fixboot" and then reboot.
[15:42] <iShotz> I don't have a Windows 8 Disk
[15:42] <iShotz> Is there no way I can Just re-install grub?
[15:42] <alocer> wow
[15:42] <betrayd> Guest54404: so, after suspend or lid close i'm thinking it might be normal (as part of unlock process)
[15:42] <SonikkuAmerica> iShotz: Well you can... use the Boot Repair PPA to install Boot Repair and run it
[15:43] <iShotz> I'll probably just make a 200MB partition to install grub onto, another for install xubuntu onto and then just format the xubuntu one
[15:43] <iShotz> That shouldn't cause any problems/
[15:43] <iShotz> ?
[15:43] <amdfx> ishotz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:44] <iShotz> brb
[15:44] <iShotz> getting my usb stick
[15:44] <Avernus> Anybody wanna help me figure out a problem with ubuntu (and possibly virtualbox)?
[15:44] <SonikkuAmerica> !anyone | Avernus
[15:45] <yofun> How do go into single user mode from command line?
[15:45] <roland> hi!. I updated a kubuntu 12.04 system and after updating KDE won't boot anymor
[15:45] <roland> I'm able to get into recovery console, but startx won't work
[15:46] <SonikkuAmerica> roland: Try running clean and dpkg from recovery.
[15:46] <Guest54404> betrayd: the screen get automatic locked after 10 minutes
[15:46] <SonikkuAmerica> roland: Then try rebooting normally again.
[15:46] <roland> SonikkuAmerica: just "clean" on the commandline?
[15:47] <SonikkuAmerica> roland: From the recovery menu
[15:47] <betrayd> Guest54404: 10 minutes of inactivity (no mouse or keyboard action)?
[15:47] <Guest54404> betrayd: exactly
[15:47] <betrayd> which sounds about right
[15:49] <chro> hi, where can I put jps so that it can be called from any place?
[15:49] <cppking> i'm running RHEL6,  #cd /usr/src/kernels/2.6.xxxxxx/    ;#make menuconfig ;#make    then error occured : no rule to make target "missing syscalls"   ;;how to solve this
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> cppking  better ask in the rhel channel
[15:49] <Guest54404> betrayd: yeah but i can't use my password to login at the locked screen i have to switch to the startup screen to login with my password
[15:49] <DJones> cppking: This is the Ubuntu channel
[15:49] <Avernus> is there any way to mount /tmp before getting to the prompt screen on boot? i'm getting that "/tmp is not ready, please mount" error
[15:49] <cppking> there is nothing different
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> cppking  then why did come here?
[15:50] <cppking> it's same in Ubuntu or RHEL
[15:50] <DJones> cppking: This channel only deals with Ubuntu support
[15:51] <alocer> Avernus: man fstab
[15:51] <cppking> OMG, if I change my words to this " i'm running Ubuntu 12.04.。。。。。。。。。。。。“then you guys will give me support?
[15:52] <Avernus> alocer: i'm afraid i'm not sure what you mean, but i will do some research
[15:52] <iShotz> Ok
[15:52] <iShotz> So
[15:52] <k1l> cppking: dont make a drama out of it. ask the RHEL support about your issue. thats it
[15:52] <alocer> Avernus: in terminal "man fstab"
[15:52] <iShotz> I found I still have my Windows 8 Loader
[15:52] <iShotz> how can i remove grub
[15:52] <alocer> iShotz: you have to fix your MBR
[15:52] <iShotz> uhh
[15:52] <iShotz> uhh
[15:52] <iShotz> how
[15:53] <FloodBot1> iShotz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:53] <cppking> ok ,bye
[15:53] <alocer> iShotz: where did you installed your grub ?
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> cppking  simply type /join #rhel      they're on freenode
[15:53] <iShotz> a deleted partition
[15:53] <betrayd> musta thought it was paid support
[15:53] <Avernus> alocer: right, but i'm talking about on boot. can i bring up terminal while booting? i think i read somewhere it's alt + F2, but that didn't work for me
[15:54] <alocer> Avernus: it brings up a black screen or nothing happens ?
[15:54] <alocer> iShotz: i know a way but ... ( put win 8 cd select repair fix mbr )
[15:54] <iShotz> i don't have my W8 cd
[15:54] <iShotz> in fact
[15:54] <iShotz> i never had one
[15:55] <alocer> iShotz: how u installed win 8 ?
[15:55] <betrayd> it came preinstalled
[15:55] <Avernus> alocer: ubuntu just hard freezes (can only reboot or REISUB). I'm running in Virtualbox, and when it reaches the /tmp mounting prompt it freezes if you try bringing that up, it freezes if you try to skip, and freezes when you try to open the maintenance shell with -m
[15:56] <alocer> Avernus: so when this started to happen ? after fresh install or after a while and before it was working well ?
[15:57] <`brendan> anyone running an hp blade 420c gen8 with ubuntu 12.04 w/ emulex OneConnect 10gb NICs? having issues getting online with the be2net
[15:57] <Avernus> alocer: so i've tried several different types of ubuntu, and it tends to happend right after you reboot the first time for update installs (after basic installation)
[15:57] <yofun> How do I go into command Line mode ?
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> yofun  ctrl-alt-f1
[15:58] <yofun> (Turn off the x server)
[15:58] <yofun> No I want to turn off the x server to save ram CPU etc
[15:58] <yofun> So I can do more stuff
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> !cli | yofun then try this
[15:58] <SonikkuAmerica> !bug 1156306
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> !text | yofun
[15:59] <yofun> Will it start all the WiFi cards etc?
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> yofun  apologies for the wrong factoid
[15:59] <alocer> Avernus: this happens when windows version is x86 and installed guest is x64 and the other is virtualization is not enabled !!
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> yofun  wifi cards are no dependend on X
[16:00] <alocer> Avernus: if the two ways aren't the problem , then i have not any further idea :-)
[16:00] <yofun> MonkeyDust:  will the WiFi cards and everything start? Just not the x server?
[16:00] <Avernus> alocer: Oh my god, how did I not realize that? Jesus I'm dumb, thanks a lot for the tip, i'm going to try using the right .iso
[16:00] <yofun> Oh ok so it should auto connect
[16:00] <alocer> Avernus: :-)
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> yofun  it's the same factoid as nox (no X
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> - ?DEMO Portal? und
[16:02] <decci> Any idea if http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/systems-management/w/wiki/1772.dell-openmanage-deployment-toolkit.aspx have been tried on Ubuntu
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> yofun: the nmapplet is simply a GUI for the network-manager service, which will start
[16:05] <decci> I read that alien is the utility which converts RPM into deb. Say, what if I use dtk for this
[16:06] <zilla> hi the live USB creator is not working for my flash drive    --  when i try to boot it from it it says "Missing Operating System" how can I add a new mbr
[16:06] <zilla> to the flashd rive
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> decci: you call, it can break things
[16:08] <utfans05> zilla: what are you using to put the iso on the usb drive?
[16:08] <zilla> utfans05:  i first tried i ubuntu
[16:09] <zilla> then i tried unetbootin in windows 7
[16:09] <zilla> both failed
[16:09] <zilla> so i must have a bad boot flag or mbr
[16:09] <utfans05> zilla: have you tried reformatting the usb stick
[16:09] <alocer> fat16 zilla
[16:10] <zilla> alocer: if im at fat32 how can i change to 16? do i need to start over?
[16:11] <zilla> i have 12.04 LTS .iso on another drive
[16:12] <alocer> they are the same zilla  , if you formated the flash with linux select fat16
[16:13] <yofun> sudo stop lightdm works too MonkeyDust
[16:14] <yofun> Aw :( it disables the GPUs
[16:15] <yofun> How can I turn my GPUs back on without x server?
[16:15] <alocer> yofun: u cant go around switching on and off your gpu ,
[16:16] <zilla> alocer:
[16:16] <zilla> how can i format the drive fat16
[16:16] <yofun> alocer:  I ran sudo stop lightdm and it stopped my GPU too :(
[16:17] <yofun> So I can't run the command line program I want to run
[16:17] <yofun> Without x server
[16:17] <alocer> try sth else yofun GPU dont have any button to turn ot on :)
[16:17] <yofun> I just wanted the program to run faster
[16:17] <alocer> right click on your drive zilla  select format , use fat32 and your good to go
[16:18] <alocer> yofun: -.-
[16:18] <bodom> Any idea why my just upgraded ubuntu still asks me to be upgraded?
[16:19] <Avernus> alocer: i'm back, and i realized that things were the other way around. you said it would be a problem if the host was x86 and the guest was x64 (opposite way around for me)
[16:19] <alocer> bodom: what is that ? how long did it takes you to upgrade
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> bodom  guess you can ignore it, reboot maybe
[16:19] <Jordan_U> bodom: How did you upgrade?
[16:19] <alocer> Avernus: i have nothing to say
[16:20] <Avernus> alocer: can you recommend a place where i can get help then? i can't find a single resource on this problem that helps me
[16:20] <alocer> Avernus: sry that i can't help . is the virtualization enabled ?
[16:20] <emr> Hello, TCP: Possible SYN flooding on port 80. Sending cookies.  Check SNMP counters Whats that
[16:21] <Avernus> alocer: i can't tell if virtualization is enabled on the ubuntu guest, is there some way to check? people are saying you can check on the BIOS, but i don't know how to access a Vbox guest bios
[16:21] <alocer> Avernus: bios of your laptop :-)
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> emr  ask in ##networking
[16:22] <Avernus> alocer: so i'd have to have virtualization of the host working? i thought it was the other way
[16:22] <demonio> hi all i've a problem i've a device that send stream byte on my ubuntu, i need to store this stream in a file text using c
[16:22] <emr> ok, thanks, MonkeyDust
[16:22] <demonio> but i don't know how to receive this stream
[16:22] <demonio> can anyone help me?
[16:23] <alocer> nope check the host Avernus , but it must be on i have no idea why that is happening to you
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> demonio  are you familiar with C ?
[16:23] <demonio> yes i know how create and store files
[16:23] <Avernus> alocer: yeah because if virtualization were disabled, i wouldn't even be able to use VBox, right?
[16:23] <newbie|2> Hi, I'm testing Tightvncserver on Lubuntu 13.04, all I'm getting is a plain grey X desktop.  Has anyone managed to get vncserver working?
[16:23] <demonio> but i don't know what source use
[16:24] <demonio> i don't know what where this stream are
[16:26] <alocer> Avernus: u are able to use vbox but that happens that to you happened :D
[16:26] <bodom> alocer: it says "New release '13.04' available. Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it." It took about 2 hours to upgrade
[16:26] <Pici> bodom: Does it say that when you login via ssh? or in the gui?
[16:26] <bodom> MonkeyDust: I think that too, but it's annoying
[16:26] <alocer> bodom: its funny . you are on 13.04 and its telling you to upgrade to 13.04 ?
[16:26] <bodom> Jordan_U: I upgraded with do-release-upgrade
[16:27] <bodom> Pici: via SSH, i don't have a gui
[16:27] <Pici> bodom: Theres a bug out there about that, let me see if I can find it for you.
[16:27] <pheonixash> hi all does anyone know about the wifi stack in ubuntu?
[16:27] <bodom> alocer: /etc/lsb-release says i'm 13.04
[16:28] <bodom> Pici: ty, i couldn't google it
[16:28] <alocer> for me its time to learn (^^)
[16:28] <vitimiti> hi o/
[16:32] <Pici> bodom: sorry, just give me a few minutes. I know I saw it, just can't seem to find it...
[16:33] <Pici> bodom: aha! Take a look at comment 16 and 17 here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1173209
[16:39] <bodom> Pici: lol! Thank you!
[16:39] <cuddylier> Why when I download files into a directory, does it change the owner of those files to 'root' when the directory and all the files within are owned by the user 'mc18'?
[16:40] <bodom> cuddylier: which user is downloading the files?
[16:40] <cuddylier> bodom The user mc18
[16:40] <cuddylier> Through a program, but the program is ran as user18, not root
[16:40] <cuddylier> So I don't see why it would change them..
[16:41] <bodom> cuddylier: to me, the only possible explanation looks like that program changing owner of them, have you tryed with a different one?
[16:41] <jrib> cuddylier: your program is likely running as root... what program is this?
[16:42] <cuddylier> Multicraft, it's running as the user 'minecraft'
[16:42] <cuddylier> So even then, I still don't see how
[16:42] <freduard> hi!
[16:42] <jrib> cuddylier: I remember from your previous question it also seemed like the program was running as root
[16:43] <cuddylier> jrib I think I did have it running as root then, but I changed it to run as 'minecraft' and each server runs as a different use 'mc[serverid]'
[16:43] <cuddylier> If you are familar with tekkit, it downloads files when started, these files that get downloaded are set as root.
[16:44] <jrib> cuddylier: only root can change ownership.  So unless you have some other program running as root and changing ownership or have setup some strange ACLs, your program is running as root
[16:45] <cuddylier> There are two processes in my top both using 100% CPU exactly, very weird
[16:45] <cuddylier> Looks like it's bugged to me
[16:46] <bean> cuddylier, what are the processes.
[16:47] <cuddylier> Both java ones
[16:47] <bodom> cuddylier: total is 100*n, where n is number of CPU... looks like you don't know how top works to me :P
[16:47] <bean> okay, and how many cores on the box.
[16:47] <cuddylier> 4
[16:47] <cuddylier> 8 threads
[16:47] <bean> you can have 100% * no_of_cores.
[16:47] <guest4001> mooooo
[16:47] <linuxpoet> I have had an odd problem on two different machines with Raring, after the latest round of updates all of a sudden my X configuration is no longer accepted and it requires me to go back to safe mode graphics. I fixed it on a laptop by removing lightdm and then installing gdm (which was just an outright guess) but on my workstation I am already running GDM
[16:47] <linuxpoet> this is 64bit
[16:47] <cuddylier> Yea, I know it can go over 100%
[16:47] <linuxpoet> both with nvidia cards
[16:48] <cuddylier> Which is why I'm saying it's weird
[16:48] <linuxpoet> any thoughts?
[16:48] <FloodBot1> linuxpoet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <cuddylier> Here is the program running as the user minecraft, http://puu.sh/2YQUo.png
[16:49] <cuddylier> Multicraft
[16:49] <elisa87> Do you know why I am receiving these two errors? when running this C executable? like file pointer error and core dump? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5690993/
[16:49] <betrayd> hmmmm
[16:50] <mikwalker> Hi, I'm testing vncserver on Lubuntu 13.04, all I'm getting is a plain X desktop, has anyone got vncserver running correctly?
[16:50] <bodom> elisa87: assimung you don't have hardware problems, it's probably a bug in the software
[16:50] <bean> and this isn't really a programming help channel
[16:51] <elisa87> bodom: this is a tested code. I have downloaded and it compiled correctly but now I have problem regarding its execution! How can I use gdb? and what is the file pointer error?
[16:53] <bodom> elisa87: This is the wrong channel for these questions, i think you should ask on #c
[16:59] <phisher1> Hello all,
[16:59] <phisher1> I'm trying to configure an external app for ssh:// protocol handler.  I have configured xdg-open to call an external script that calls /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal and connects to the host in the ssh:// url.  xdg-mime query default x-scheme-handler/ssh returns my config file for the ssh mimetime, but when xdg-open ssh://hostname is ran, it opens the hostname in a SFTP nautilus window.  I have confirmed that my methods for xdg are proper, as I can make a
[16:59] <phisher1> xdg appears to be ignoring my ssh:// mimetype though. Can anyone help ? I am running Xubuntu, in Xfce, 12.04.2
[17:08] <betrayd> phisher1 how were you able to confirm
[17:08] <phisher1> betrayd  xdg-open abc://host.name    works.
[17:09] <betrayd> as in, an xfce terminal appeared (just trying to get the picture)
[17:09] <ninjah_> exit
[17:09] <ninjah_> \exit
[17:09] <phisher1> correct.. appeared and opened up ssh to my hostname given via the abc://hostname  url
[17:10] <dmjaz> Is there any way around the 25 post minimum required to download attachments? I'm trying to grab a patch for my touchpad but I can only find it hosted on ubuntuforums.com.
[17:10] <phisher1> there's a 25 post minimum to download from the forums??
[17:10] <betrayd> phisher1 the external script exists in two places
[17:11] <phisher1> betrayd .. the script, or the config file for the mimetype?
[17:11] <dmjaz> Yeah, I can't do anything for the  most part. I can't even use the search functionality to see if this question has been addressed.
[17:11] <pcarson> Can anyone point me to a channel for help on adding an external hard drive?  Thanks!
[17:11] <dmjaz> and I don't feel like posting a bunch of support requests just to get to a patch I want to test.
[17:11] <phisher1> I've tried placing it in /usr/share/applications and ~/.local/shared/applications
[17:11] <SonikkuAmerica> pcarson: ##hardware
[17:12] <pcarson> Thank you!
[17:12] <bodom> dmjaz: that's a stupid limitation... just spam 25 posts and download it :)
[17:12] <phisher1> that being said ,   xdg-mime query default x-scheme-handler/ssh    retuns my config file
[17:12] <dmjaz> It says something about requiring 25 bean posts? I'm assuming that means they can't just be BS.
[17:13] <dmjaz> plus the script that chances that status runs once every hour, so it won't really get me anywhere more quickly
[17:14] <phisher1> dmjaz: link me to post
[17:15] <phisher1> I'll see if I can download it
[17:15] <dmjaz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966016&page=13&p=12246443#post12246443
[17:16] <phisher1> I see 3 attachments
[17:17] <phisher1> dmjaz: which attachment ?
[17:17] <echoe> is there any kernel for undervolting that's being kept up to date? I'm installing 12.04 on my laptop with this: [warning: popup ads] http://linuxsolver.blogspot.com/2012/05/undervolting-cpu-in-ubuntu-1204.html < and it's great that 12.04 is a LTS releast but I'm just worried about after that. Since undervolting has to never go away.
[17:17] <SuperGauntlet> The GUI installer for Xubuntu isn't showing icons for the guided partitioning (like, 'drag the divider to allocate space'), which side is Xubuntu on by default?
[17:17] <dmjaz> Grab the third. I'm hoping that will work even though my kernal is a very versions after that.
[17:18] <dmjaz> *is a few versions
[17:18] <Yoshie> internet not working, ubuntu 64 bit motherboard  ASROCK NV68-VS3 FX
[17:18] <dmjaz> Arrrrgh, this mouse is killing me.
[17:18] <dmjaz> phisher1: Thanks.
[17:18] <betrayd> is it a large mouse
[17:18] <echoe> yoshie, ethernet? pci plug in wifi? built in wifi? are your drivers working? that's where I would check first
[17:18] <phisher1> dmjaz: http://www.phisher1.us/uploads/psmouse-3.2.0-30-generic-pae.tar.bz2
[17:18] <bodom> lol
[17:18] <dmjaz> No, it's small but sneaky.
[17:19] <dmjaz> phisher1: Thanks again. Saved me the hassle of posting BS.
[17:19] <phisher1> yup np
[17:19] <SuperGauntlet> Anyone have any idea about the partition gui?
[17:20] <Yoshie> echoe: hello, Ethernet yes  aka  eth0,  I did a  sudo lshw -C network and it gave an out put of   MCP61: Ethernet
[17:20] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know what is rogue cron job?
[17:21] <jrib> mojtaba: why do you ask?
[17:21] <phisher1> mojtaba: in the context of, you don't know what is running the job?
[17:21] <Jester86> Hey all
[17:21] <echoe> yoshi, netstat not showing any packets going in and out? can't ping anything?
[17:21] <bodom> mojtaba: it's a cron job waiting in the woods to ambush you
[17:21] <sonOfRa> Anyone here running 13.04 on a Thinkpad T510 with a MiniDock Plus Series 3?
[17:21] <mojtaba> jrib: I have a host with bluehost and they said that they have throttled my account because of that.
[17:22] <Jester86> anyone running Ubuntu Touch on Droid 4?
[17:22] <mojtaba> bodom: ?
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> !touch
[17:22] <DJones> !touch | Jester86
[17:22] <betrayd> what are the odds sonOfRa
[17:22] <Jester86> ah thanks DJones
[17:22] <Yoshie> echoe: correct, as the wheel keeps spinning kind of thing..... and it keeps stating that eth0 has disconnected for some wierd reason as a pop up.
[17:22] <sonOfRa> Upon removing the laptop from the dock, it shuts down immediately, not cleanly, but just poweroff
[17:22] <betrayd> sonOfRa just state your problem
[17:22] <bodom> mojtaba: just kidding, it's a cron job you don't know of
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  if you type crontab -e    does it show this rogue thing?
[17:22] <Jester86> I tried #ubuntutouch .. didn't think about trying that one
[17:23] <echoe> what's ethtool eth0 say?
[17:23] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: Let me check that
[17:23] <sonOfRa> betrayd, the "anyone" was kind of necessary because it is a special case, and only happens on that exact configuration.
[17:24] <Yoshie> echoe: im not sure id have to reboot and check it out to find that one, only have 1 pc right now and its running windows
[17:24] <jrib> mojtaba: they probably just mean you have a cron job that's hogging resources for whatever reason
[17:24] <sonOfRa> This only happens with ubuntu, i tried other distributions on the same hardware, and it no longer occurs.
[17:24] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: It says that I am not allowed to use this program
[17:24] <betrayd> sort of a prologue, is it battery or AC when undocked
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  i read here, the 'rogue cron job' is related to mac os
[17:24] <sonOfRa> it should go to battery. there is no AC cable connected when undocking
[17:25] <sonOfRa> (can't be, because of the way dock is build, really)
[17:25] <betrayd> understood sonOfRa
[17:25] <Yoshie> echoe: want me to check that out and than come back?
[17:26] <echoe> yoshie, I'd check that and also look for the model# and see if anyone reports anything about incompatibilities w/drivers with that
[17:26] <sonOfRa> Haven't tried any other Ubuntus other than 13.04/amd64, but on other distributions it works fine. Windows is fine, too
[17:26] <echoe> you're going to need to copy and paste the information down somehow too. maybe a USB stick and a text file :P
[17:27] <betrayd> you might know where acpi-events are located, might be lacking an 'undock' event scenario and does the poweroff as fallbacl
[17:27] <cuddylier> Does anyone know how to allow users to access /proc/[process id]/stat? The user who is trying to access it owns the directory, e.g. /proc/2554/stat, the user mc85 might own it if it's their process. At the moment, they are just denied access, yet another machine with ubuntu I have is fine.
[17:27] <sonOfRa> I added empty undock scenarios for the undock and dock events
[17:27] <sonOfRa> this does not fix it.
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  you always have the strangest questions and problems, i wonder what you are doing
[17:29] <sonOfRa> I found exactly one other person with the same problems on the lenovo community forums, also running 13.04 on a t510 with the same dock
[17:29] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: :-P
[17:30] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: I am learning and also recently shifted to linux and I like this OS very much.
[17:30] <betrayd> sonOfRa empty? Make it do something so you know it enters that part 'echo hey ima undocking'
[17:31] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: Meanwhile I am designing a website. :)
[17:31] <sonOfRa> yeah, that's kind of what I understood with empty ^^
[17:31] <sonOfRa> it does not enter that part
[17:31] <sonOfRa> at least, it is not able to save the file I'm piping output to before it shuts off
[17:31] <betrayd> sonOfRa might be putting in the wrong spot? Or some event is triggering it prior <<
[17:32] <Diomedes> Hey there! Do you know where I could ask for help concerning Creative X-Fi on Linux?
[17:32] <echoe> while [ 1==1 ] do sleep 5; echo "hey ima have no idea if i'm undocking"; done &
[17:32] <echoe> :D
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> Diomedes  wepends on what it is
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> Diomedes  depends on what it is
[17:33] <sonOfRa> betrayd, http://phihag.de/2012/thinkpad-docking.html used that for figuring out the docking events
[17:33] <Diomedes> Well, minor problem is that I am lacking software for configuring it. Major problem is that voip is not working at all.
[17:34] <sonOfRa> they are in the right place
[17:34] <sonOfRa> However, "power off without asking" doesn't seem like a reasonable default behavious for an event
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> Diomedes  you want to configure it, but what is it, what does it do?
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> ok, it's a soundblaster
[17:35] <Diomedes> Well, all kinds of stuff like EAX, equalizer, bass etc.
[17:36] <Diomedes> There is some software for Windows made by Creative, but none for Linux it seems.
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> Diomedes  you didnt say it's a sound card
[17:36] <Diomedes> Oh, sorry.
[17:36] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, sorry to ask this question as I'm sure it's been asked a dozen times, but could someone please point me to KNOWN WORKING instructions to get Ubuntu installed with nVidia proprietary driver?
[17:37] <DreamPCs> Specifically, I have a GeForce 9500 GT
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> !nvidia | DreamPCs is this useful
[17:38] <DreamPCs> Does this page address the new kernel issues and X not supporting legacy code or something or other?
[17:39] <pcarson> How (Who) do I get a +v in ##hardware?  Thanks!
[17:39] <jrib> pcarson: #freenode can help you with that
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> DreamPCs  i missed that part in your initial question
[17:40] <DreamPCs> MonkeyDust: That page was last edited December of 2k12, I don't think it addresses the current issues.
[17:40] <OerHeks> pcarson, maybe register your nickname ?
[17:40] <michagogo> !natty
Oops !  Thanks - I hate stupid questions.
[17:42] <meganerd> DreamPCs: what do you mean by "current issues"?
[17:43] <vivekg> I am having some issues with linking to pthreads. If my program while linking specifies -lpthread before -lsqlite3 then it gets all linker errors for pthread_* methods... but if I specify -lpthread later, then it links fine... any reason why?
[17:44] <DreamPCs> Well, apparently a lot of people are having issues with 13.04 (I don't know the technical details) because the 3.8* kernel and/or X has apparently dropped some support for "legacy" cards. This causes a lot of people to upgrade or do a fresh installation and end up at a terminal prompt on boot or no hardware acceleration.
[17:45] <neighbors> I installed ubuntu 12.04 desktop on one machine and 12.04 server on another, but one has a 3.2 kernel and the other a 3.5
[17:45] <neighbors> I cannot figure out why they have different kernels, /etc/apt/sources.list are identical between them
[17:45] <bekks> neighbors: Install the latest kernel then. sudo apt-get install linux-image
[17:45] <Actionparsnip> Neighbors: the later installed one will have the 3.5 this is normal
[17:46] <echoe> does the older kernel say anything specific? *is installing an old kernel on 12.04 now*
[17:46] <bekks> Introduced with 12.04.2, the 3.5 kernel was in the repos due to a critical bugfix
[17:46] <neighbors> shouldn't a normal apt-get dist-upgrade bring the one with the 3.2 kernel up to 3.5 then?
[17:46] <jrib> neighbors: only if you have the proper package installed
[17:46] <neighbors> echoe: I didn't notice a message like that
[17:46] <bekks> neighbors: Kernels arent updated automatically, you have to run the command above
[17:47] <neighbors> I see, interesting, OK let me try an apt-get install linux-image
[17:47] <Actionparsnip> Neighbors: no, all subsequent precise installs will get 3.5 its no bad thing.  Just enjoy the OS :-)
[17:48] <neighbors> I notice 3.5 is no longer on kernel.org which seems a little odd, will it go up to 3.9 at some point on its own?
[17:48] <bekks> neighbors: No.
[17:48] <Actionparsnip> Neighbors : when updates are ready, they will come
[17:49] <linuxnewb2> If you build it, they will come!
[17:49] <meganerd> DreamPCs: If nVidia drops support for "legacy" devices then there is nothing that can be done if you want to use the proprietary driver
[17:50] <neighbors> so doing an apt-get install linux-image on the box with a 3.2 kernel results in a 3.2 kernel still, do I have to specify some other package?
[17:50] <Actionparsnip> A supported gpu is usually pretty cheap too
[17:50] <bekks> neighbors: did you run sudo apt-get update before?
[17:51] <neighbors> yeah, but I can try again
[17:51] <Actionparsnip> Neighbors : is there something in the 3.5 kernel you need?
[17:51] <DreamPCs> It's not nVidia dropping support, it's something to do with compatibility with the new X. I read somewhere that blacklisting the new nVidia driver and/or X will solve the issue. But I also read that blacklisting new X versions is a bad update if you keep the system up to date.
[17:51] <cuddylier> Does anyone know how to allow users to access /proc/[process id]/stat? The user who is trying to access it owns the directory, e.g. /proc/2554/stat, the user mc85 might own it if it's their process. At the moment, they are just denied access, yet another machine with ubuntu I have is fine.
[17:51] <DreamPCs> And the video card I have (GeForce 9500 GT) is enough for this machine and I don't want to spend money for something that works in 12.10.
[17:51] <neighbors> Not at this moment, but I kind of wanted my development box and server box to be rather similar, I might play around with lxc and kvm and it's possible kernel differences might come into play, I'm not sure
[17:51] <anddam> do I need resolvconf for a single, statically configured, interface?
[17:52] <Actionparsnip> Neighbors: is the 3.2 kernel running ok?
[17:52] <meganerd> DreamPCs: now you know why proprietary drivers suck
[17:52] <neighbors> Actionparsnip: yeah it's running fine
[17:52] <anddam> also I cannot see any "nameserver" option in interfaces(5), why is this?
[17:52] <meganerd> DreamPCs: sorry that came out snarky
[17:53] <Actionparsnip> Neighbors : I believe there is a backport package but I can't remember the name
[17:53] <DreamPCs> meganerd: What would you recommend? I either have to pay for new hardware (for a software problem) or use opensource drivers without 3d acceleration.
[17:53] <DreamPCs> No prob meganerd, I know what you mean and I don't like it either lol.
[17:53] <yashwant> i am unable to change ntfs owner in Linux.
[17:53] <meganerd> DreamPCs: proprietary video drivers have driven me insane since they became available
[17:53] <Actionparsnip>  Meganerd: not had an issue with nvidia for 13 years now
[17:53] <DreamPCs> Yeah I hear you. Strangely I've never hard issues with Ubuntu and this card since maybe 8.04 or something
[17:53] <yashwant> any body know how to change the owner of ntfs drive in linux
[17:54] <meganerd> DreamPCs: nvidia is my current hate on, I have managed to get optimus working on my laptop with 12.10
[17:54] <Actionparsnip> Yashwant: you specify it at mount time
[17:54] <meganerd> DreamPCs: but my box at home with  a 5770 worked out of the box
[17:54] <DreamPCs> I'm not even sure if nVidia considers my card legacy or not. Normally proprietary installs are no issue for this card.
[17:56] <meganerd> DreamPCs: out of curiosity, does noveau work with your card?
[17:56] <Actionparsnip> Yashwant : you will get issues with NTFS if it is not unplugged cleanly. Lots of windows users dont use safe remove before unplugging then wonder why they get issues
[17:56] <DreamPCs> It does, without issue.
[17:57] <meganerd> DreamPCs: do you *need* the proprietary driver?
[17:57] <DreamPCs> Well, I don't "need" it but I can't really game without it. And Steam for Linux is useless without 3d acceleration. Plus, I can't watch YouTube in HD fullscreen without it.
[17:58] <Actionparsnip>  Dreampcs: even with minitube?
[17:59] <meganerd> DreamPCs: on my laptop with the optimus garbage, I ended up with the PPA edgers, bumblebee PPA, and a custom built 3.8 kernel.  When I reinstall I am probably just going to disable the nvidia GPU in the BIOS
[17:59] <DreamPCs> I haven't tried with Minitube although I suspect it would work. Problem is, minitube doesn't pull links from browsers. So if I'm watching a video someone linked to on G+ for instance, I don't have a way to watch it unless I launch the app and search for the same video.
[18:00] <DreamPCs> meganerd: Well if that's what I have to do I just won't upgrade the kernel.
[18:00] <neighbors> so I was able to get the kernels to match by doing an apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-quantal
[18:00] <neighbors> on the box with the 3.2 kernel
[18:00] <neighbors> I see there's a raring kernel available, too
[18:01] <Actionparsnip> Neighbors : that's the one :-)
[18:01] <Actionparsnip> !info linux-image-generic-lts-quantal
[18:02] <Actionparsnip> !info linux-image-generic-lts-quantal precise
[18:02] <DreamPCs> This ubottu thing is great.
[18:03] <Actionparsnip> Dreampcs: lots. She is very smart
[18:03] <Actionparsnip> But not intelligent
[18:04] <DreamPCs> That's good stuff. I remember my old IRC days back with mIRC was the way to go.
[18:04] <DreamPCs> I'm writing Ubuntu to USB now so I can install it. I'm currently running Sabayon.
[18:04] <meganerd> DreamPCs: The easiest solution is an ATI one (or the Intel integrated).  For me the HD4000 in my laptop is good enough for everything except gaming, but the NVS 5400M is terrible for that anyway
[18:04] <Actionparsnip> Only through ignorance of other clients :-)
[18:05] <DreamPCs> I have some onboard vga but I have no idea what it is. I've never used it lol.
[18:05] <pipegeek> I'm trying to run a network install of precise, and I can't find a way to tell it it should use eth2 instead of eth0.  during the network autoconfiguration stage, it attempts to dhclient eth0, fails, and gives up.  If I execute a shell, I can manually dhclient eth2 with no issues, but debian-installer refuses to use that nic
[18:05] <meganerd> DreamPCs: the custom kernel was so I could get a new kernel that better supported my hardware.  http://www.phoronix.com is a great place to look
[18:05] <pipegeek> any ideas?
[18:05] <DreamPCs> I'll check out that page now.
[18:05] <Actionparsnip> Dreampcs : irssi is extremely scriptable and uses perl and so forth. Lots of power
[18:06] <bekks> DreamPCs: mirc never was state of the art ;) And just use "sudo lspci | grep -ui vga" for getting which graphics card you have.
[18:06] <DreamPCs> Really? I need to look into that
[18:06] <DreamPCs> I just use xchat lol.
[18:07] <Actionparsnip>  Pipegeek: if you make udev rules you can call it what you wish.  Search for  "rename eth1 eth0"
[18:07] <pipegeek> well ok, but... that doesn't seem like an answer
[18:07] <pipegeek> is there actually no way to tell D-I to install over an interface that's not called 'eth0'? o.O
[18:07] <DreamPCs> bekks: Output only shows 1, my GeForce 9500.
[18:08] <neighbors> thanks Actionparsnip and bekks and whoever else for the kernel help :)  I think I'm going to go ahead and bump to the raring kernel while I'm at it
[18:08] <bekks> DreamPCs: Thats your graphics card.
[18:09] <DreamPCs> I know, I'm saying I don't know what GPU is attached to my motherboard is all.
[18:09] <DreamPCs> BY attached, I mean onboard.
[18:11] <goddard> how can i view my public gpg key via the command line?
[18:12] <pipegeek> I'm trying to run a network install of precise, and I can't find a way to tell it it should use eth2 instead of eth0.  during the network autoconfiguration stage, it attempts to dhclient eth0, fails, and gives up.  If I execute a shell, I can manually dhclient eth2 with no issues, but debian-installer refuses to use that nic
[18:12] <bekks> DreamPCs: You just investigated and told us which GPU is attached.
[18:14] <DreamPCs> bekks I think there's a loss of communication some where. I've always known what 3rd party video card I have in this machine. It's an nVidia GeForce 9500GT. I came in here initially to get updated instructions on installing the proprietary closed sourced driver. Someone (I don't recall) mentioned that they are using their intergrated VGA and it works well for them. I then mentioned that I don't even know what onboard VGA adapter I have.
[18:14] <DreamPCs> That's all, lol.
[18:16] <goddard> how can i view my public gpg key via the command line?
[18:18] <DreamPCs> goddard: try gpg --list-keys
[18:18] <goddard> DreamPCs: that doesn't list the public key though
[18:19] <DreamPCs> No idea then, I just pulled that from this site: http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/x56.html
[18:20] <th0r> goddard: I bet --list-public-keys would work, but so would
[18:20] <th0r> 'man gpg'
[18:21] <pipegeek> I'm trying to run a network install of precise, and I can't find a way to tell it it should use eth2 instead of eth0.  during the network autoconfiguration stage, it attempts to dhclient eth0, fails, and gives up.  If I execute a shell, I can manually dhclient eth2 with no issues, but debian-installer refuses to use that nic
[18:22] <SuperGauntlet> Does moving a partition change the GUID?
[18:25] <echoe> ... I hope yoshie didn't break everything
[18:25] <meganerd> DreamPCs: what CPU do you have?
[18:25] <ubuntu> ubuntupm
[18:26] <DreamPCs> This machine has a dual core E2180
[18:26] <DreamPCs> Pentium
[18:26] <betrayd> pipegeek, second one also built in?
[18:27] <pipegeek> betrayd: second one is a pcie card, but it's definitely being recognized.  'ip addr' shows it, and again, executing dhclient explicitly works
[18:27] <pipegeek> it's not that it can't find it, it's that there's no setting in the ui I can find to switch interfaces
[18:28] <pipegeek> but I'm going to try passing in "interface=eth2" as a kernel option and see if that helps
[18:28] <betrayd> pipegeek maybe switchoff eth0 thru BIOS?
[18:28] <pipegeek> I mean
[18:28] <pipegeek> I want eth0 to be available :P
[18:28] <pipegeek> I just don't want it to install over it because there's no dhcp on that network :P
[18:28] <betrayd> ok
[18:28] <pipegeek> but we'll see if interface=eth2 works
[18:29] <betrayd> have a cold one in the fridge?
[18:29] <pipegeek> betrayd: sadly no
[18:30] <betrayd> bbm
[18:31] <DreamPCs> How can I tell if nVidia considers my card to be a legacy card?
[18:31] <meganerd> DreamPCs: my last laptop was a T9550 and I found the intel GPU to be good enough for video, just in no way useful for gaming.
[18:32] <DreamPCs> Yeah I hear you. No gaming is damn-near a deal breaker for me. I don't need to be playing the latest games but I need something.
[18:32] <bekks> DreamPCs: You have 9500GT, which is not a legacy card. "legacy" cards were all cards up to 8xxx series.
[18:32] <DreamPCs> Ok cool bekks, thanks for the info.
[18:33] <meganerd> DreamPCs: have you upgrade to 13.04 yet?
[18:34] <DreamPCs> I did about a week ago but because of the drivers I lost that installation. I'm running Sabayon right now but I'm about to reinstall 13.04 in a few minutes.
[18:35] <meganerd> DreamPCs: did you try the nVidia download or the nvidia-current (apt) driver?
[18:36] <DreamPCs> First I tried the 310 drivers in the repository. After that didn't work, I tried the 319 drivers straight from nvidias website. I got so far down the rabbit hole I eventually just installed another OS.
[18:36] <DreamPCs> Open source drivers are fine, but whenever I install the closed sources ones either I cannot login (black screens back to login prompt) or everything is horrendously slow and 3d acceleration still doesn't work.
[18:37] <DreamPCs> It does work however on Sabayon through the defailt installation.
[18:37] <meganerd> DreamPCs: from what I read a few months ago (when I got the new laptop) there were a ton of changes being made to entire graphics stack.  Lots of kernel changes.
[18:38] <subz3r0> does anyone know a linux alternative to the program "visual certexam manager"?
[18:38] <meganerd> DreamPCs: you might want to add the PPA xorg-edgers, phoronix has a lot of articles on this stuff
[18:38] <DreamPCs> Yeah I think that's why I need to stick to an older kernel or something
[18:38] <DreamPCs> I'm looking on phoronix's page now and I can't find anything that I need.
[18:38] <meganerd> DreamPCs: well the problem is that entire stack kinda depends on each other.
[18:39] <bekks> DreamPCs: Yeah, that always happen when people go to moronix. :>
[18:39] <DreamPCs> This sounds like a fun project.
[18:40] <grlpx> ubuntu is a very idiosintocratic operative system
[18:41] <grlpx> how do I make interesting stuff with ubuntu
[18:41] <grlpx> ?
[18:41] <grlpx> to me it looks like having windoze
[18:42] <echoe> modify kernel
[18:42] <echoe> win internets
[18:42] <bekks> grlpx: So you judge by what you see, without understanding what you see. Please keep that out of here.
[18:42] <mcscruff> hi all, i have just updated to 13.04, and now my wireless doesnt work.. i have rtl8723ae which i had to compile drivers for on 12.10 but now it is supported, it appears in iwconfig but can not scan for any networks
[18:43] <grlpx> bekks: of course, like you
[18:43] <bekks> grlpx: You started the OT, now please stop it.
[18:44] <kristenbb> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.04, but when I boot, it says: grub error: missing partition. What to do ?
[18:45] <DreamPCs> kristenbb is this before or after you installed Ubuntu?
[18:45] <kristenbb> after
[18:45] <DreamPCs> Do you have more than 1 hard drive? Or more than 1 partition?
[18:45] <kristenbb> yes
[18:46] <kristenbb> 2 drives, 3 on /sda which is data, and 2 on sdb, which the installation created
[18:46] <Yoshie> echoe: hello
[18:47] <DreamPCs> My guess is the grub boot loader is referencing the wrong partition. My suggestion, for is to check your BIOS and see which hard drive it boots from. Then reinstall Ubuntu and point to to that drive when installing the boat loader.
[18:47] <echoe> hey, any troubles?
[18:47] <umc> guys, after an ubuntu 10.04 LTS upgrade to 12.04 LTS, postfix is acting weird... I can receive mails, send mails to the same domain, but not to yahoo for example. in the syslog I see "warning: hostname localhost does not resolve to address ::1: No address associated with hostname". in my /etc/hosts I have line "::1     localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback". is this correct ? or am I missing something ?
[18:47] <echoe> what did it give you?
[18:47] <DreamPCs> brb rebooting to a LiveUSB
[18:48] <Yoshie> echoe: Yeah sadly did not work, however i found the bug doing a google search       https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1003297
[18:48] <kristenbb> DreamPCs: how can I remove the boot loader from sda?
[18:48] <echoe> did the workaround work?
[18:48] <bekks> kristenbb: By overwriting the first 448 bytes of the harddisk.
[18:48] <echoe> ethtool eth0 just analyzes the port, it doesn't fix anything
[18:48] <kristenbb> bekks: how exactly ?
[18:49] <bekks> kristenbb: Why do you want to do it, anyway?
[18:49] <Yoshie> echoe: the work around is not guaranteed to work, and i dont want to have to type that everysingle time i boot my system lol..... ..
[18:49] <kristenbb> bekks: i don't know, it would appear that I'm not using the correct drive
[18:49] <kristenbb> bekks: i just want to install ubuntu, I've been trying for days :(
[18:49] <echoe> yoshie you should be able to add that command to rc.local to have it autorun
[18:50] <bekks> kristenbb: Then overwriting the bootloader will not solve it.
[18:50] <kristenbb> bekks: so what would ?
[18:50] <bekks> kristenbb: What exactly happens when you boot off a livecd?
[18:50] <echoe> but yes it isn't ideal. ... am working on a similar issue myslf with undervolting and an mv-40 processor actually.
[18:50] <Yoshie> echoe: did you check that bug report out?
[18:50] <kristenbb> bekks: a live cd ?
[18:50] <bekks> kristenbb: Or the install cd.
[18:51] <kristenbb> bekks: a live cd works, that's not the issue. The issue is when I boot with the drives.
[18:51] <echoe> yoshie, yes, the last post seems workable if you can get that
[18:51] <echoe> i mean obviously it isn't perfect. >.>
[18:52] <Yoshie> echoe: hmm, how long does it usually take for a small bug like that to get fixed? cause that bug has been there for over a year....
[18:52] <bekks> kristenbb: Then where did you install grub to?
[18:53] <kristenbb> bekks: I don't know, I didn't install anything by hand, I just hit next,next,next on the installation procedure, and input my name and such where asked.
[18:53] <bekks> kristenbb: And you were asked where to install grub.
[18:53] <kristenbb> bekks: maybe, I chose the default then.
[18:54] <bekks> kristenbb: The default depends on the installation options chosen.
[18:54] <rymate1234> kristenbb, do you not read installers?
[18:54] <echoe> Yoshie, I've just moved from fedora, so I really don't know. but it looks like it's a low priority thing for some reason
[18:54] <kristenbb> so what to do from here? how can I check where grub was installed from the live cd ?
[18:55] <tipox> http://pastebin.com/gNzDMdGW
[18:55] <Yoshie> echoe: yeah i just also tried fedora a few minutes ago and fedora is having the same issue sadly... ..
[18:55] <tipox> can someone help me?
[18:55] <pjack30> hellopat_, i've got a rootkit on my system, "ps aux" keeps hidding its real path  with nullbyte
[18:55] <pjack30> hello*
[18:55] <echoe> fedora is bad at everything
[18:55] <pjack30> how i can get a real process fulll path???
[18:55] <echoe> I mean, not really but ... uh, I left it for a reason, and that reason is "sleep bugs and gneeral crappiness"
[18:55] <pjack30> root      2589  0.0  0.1  33376  4224 ?        S    May21   0:08 [eth0]
[18:55] <echoe> pjack does rootkithunter find the rootkit?
[18:56] <pjack30> and then just nullbyte
[18:56] <bekks> !grub2 | kristenbb
[18:56] <pjack30> i want to get its path
[18:56] <pjack30> please help
[18:56] <echoe> i assume top -c nulls the path as well?
[18:56] <makerbrakr> hi,
[18:56] <pjack30> top also views [eth0] only
[18:56] <tipox> http://pastebin.com/gNzDMdGW can someone help me ?
[18:56] <kristenbb> bekks: I tried boot repair before, but it still says the same error message.
[18:56] <makerbrakr> whats the best way to monitor netplug, and take an action based on a change?
[18:56] <pjack30> tis a perl bot with virus
[18:57] <bekks> kristenbb: So whats the full, exact error then?
[18:58] <kristenbb> bekks: well from here I can't give it to you anymore, without restarting the computer, since I'm on the livecd. But it's something like. grub error: partition missing.
[18:58] <frozenlock> I'm running a script at startup, but the machine doesn't seem to be connected to the LAN yet when it runs it. Is there a way to wait for the interface to be up?
[18:58] <bekks> kristenbb: We need the exact error message.
[18:59] <kristenbb> bekks: ok, I'll restart then
[18:59] <kristenbb> bekks: and also, on the page you gave, there is a terminal way of doing it, and so I tried: sudo grub-install /dev/sdb. But I get Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[18:59] <kristenbb> should I still restart ?
[19:01] <kristenbb> well I'll restart anyway since you're not answering, I get it doesn't hurt.
[19:02] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, any ideas on how I can install nvidia drivers from alive usb to a local install?
[19:02] <DreamPCs> kristebb: You weren't talking to me I hope.
[19:03] <giuseppe__> hi all i've a device that send stream byte in usb port and i need to pick this stream byte and put they in a file so my question is where i can find this stream?
[19:03] <tacomaster> DreamPCs: why not just install the binary version in the repo?
[19:03] <tacomaster> DreamPCs: or maybe i misunderstood your question
[19:04] <eN_Joy> i remember there's a command line tool to help you build regex incrementally, forgot it's name, anyone? thanks
[19:04] <DreamPCs> tacomaster: In the past (about 2 weeks ago) I had issues using the driver that shipped with Ubuntu. I wanted to install it via the terminal.
[19:05] <DreamPCs> I just wanted to know since I'm doing a fresh install now, if I can use the live usb (that's currently running) to install the nvidia drivers directly to the just-installed installation.
[19:05] <moses> how do install a compiler onto ubuntu?
[19:05] <eN_Joy> something like pcretest?
[19:05] <meganerd> moses: apt-get install build-essential
[19:05] <tacomaster> DreamPCs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1823659
[19:06] <DreamPCs> Thanks Cool Ranch!
[19:06] <moses> meganerd: i have the tar.gz in a folder
[19:06] <moses> on my ubuntu
[19:07] <DreamPCs> tacomaster, I need to know how I can use the terminal in a live USB to edit the installed Ubuntu, not the live running one.
[19:07] <tacomaster> DreamPCs: ooo ok
[19:07] <BigFist> I've noticed my ubuntu stops loading after: sd 7:0:0:3: [sdf] Assuming drive cache: write through
[19:07] <tacomaster> DreamPCs: look in to chroot then
[19:07] <tacomaster> DreamPCs: after you chroot in to your existing install then run the command
[19:07] <DreamPCs> Ok, will do, thanks.
[19:08] <BigFist> of course every second (or so) time it loads properly, and the next line is  sdf: sdf1
[19:08] <yeats> DreamPCs: depending on the issue, it may not be necessary to use chroot, fwiw
[19:08] <tacomaster> DreamPCs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1156240
[19:09] <tacomaster> yeats: he needs to install a package
[19:09] <DreamPCs> tacomaster, looking at your link now.
[19:09] <kristenbb> so I rebooted and the exact error message is: error: no such partition. grub rescue>
[19:09] <tacomaster> DreamPCs: going afk for a few seconds if you have any more questions ill just look up
[19:09] <yeats> tacomaster: ah - sorry - didn't have the full scrollback
[19:10] <kafka> tacomaster: i missed
[19:10] <DreamPCs> yeats, to make a long story short, I want to use a live CD(usb) to install the proprietary nvidia drivers. I literally just installed Ubuntu from this USB and I was wondering if I can install the nvidia drivers before even ooting Ubuntu
[19:10] <yeats> DreamPCs: I think it would be easier to boot into the installed version and use a terminal
[19:12] <DreamPCs> Well I can't run nvidia-settings (or whatever the command is) if the GUI is running. If I boot the installation, I would have to kill X, go to a term and do the same thing. I figured this way I at least have internet access if something goes foul.
[19:12] <tacomaster> DreamPCs: sudo stop lightdm
[19:12] <sr_smith> Hello
[19:12] <tacomaster> DreamPCs: use links
[19:12] <yeats> or wget
[19:12] <tacomaster> DreamPCs: links is a webbrowser with out the need of x
[19:13] <tacomaster> wget works too
[19:13] <kristenbb> can someone please help me to install ubuntu ? I don't get why it's so difficult. :(
[19:13] <yeats> kristenbb: what's the problem?
[19:13] <kristenbb> yeats: the problem is that it doesn't start, it says "no such partition'.
[19:13] <tipox-[a]> does wordpress, require root user?
[19:13] <tacomaster> kristenbb: are you using a usb to install on a hard drive?
[19:14] <kristenbb> tacomaster: I'm using a cd to install on a hard drive.
[19:14] <DreamPCs> yeats I already have the binarties I don't need to wget them. tacomaster thanks for reminding me about lynx. I keep forgetting about that browser.
[19:14] <opcode1> I created a usb key from the ubuntu 13.04 amd64 desktop. It works on another PC but not on this one... (it does, but only after hacking into my HD grub) any idea what could cause that? is it a problem from my computer? the pb is it can't seem to boot from that key
[19:14] <tacomaster> kristenbb: where is the install failing?
[19:14] <kristenbb> tacomaster: when I try to use it
[19:15] <tacomaster> kristenbb: you need to have alittle more detail than that what does the screen look like when it fails or what is it asking you to input?
[19:16] <Avernus> Is there a quick, easy way to check if the filesystem is read-only or read/write?
[19:16] <tacomaster> ls -l
[19:16] <opcode1> mount
[19:16] <kristenbb> tacomaster: sorry, I mean that the installation is successful, it's just that when I reboot my computer without the cd, it fails to boot into ubuntu. Instead, the screen is black and white letters say: "error: no such partition. grub rescue>"
[19:16] <yeats> DreamPCs: cool - then it sounds like you're all set - I would boot up, Ctrl-Alt-F1(through 6), sudo stop lightdm, run the installer, reboot
[19:17] <Avernus> thanks opcode1
[19:18] <tacomaster> kristenbb: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:18] <kristenbb> tacomaster: I tried both command line and graphic mode.
[19:19] <opcode1> exit
[19:19] <tacomaster> kristenbb: what was the command you used to try to repair grub?
[19:19] <cuddylier> Does anyone know how to allow users to access /proc/[process id]/stat? The user who is trying to access it owns the directory, e.g. /proc/2554/stat, the user mc85 might own it if it's their process. At the moment, they are just denied access, yet another machine with ubuntu I have is fine.
[19:19] <Cruzer506> Anybody else who is going crazy like me and wants to Go back by backspace on Chromium :@
[19:19] <kristenbb> tacomaster: hmmm, I don't really recall exactly, but I think it was something like grub-install /dev/sdb.
[19:20] <tacomaster> kristenbb:  are you sure that /dev/sdb points to your primary hdd?
[19:20] <kristenbb> tacomaster: yeah it was  sudo grub-install /dev/sdb. And the error is: Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[19:21] <DreamPCs> kristenbb do you have any other Operating Systems installed?
[19:21] <kristenbb> tacomaster: well I have only 2 drives, one only contains data, and one only contains the ubuntu I just installed, this shouldn't be that difficult a setup.
[19:21] <kristenbb> DreamPCs: no
[19:22] <tacomaster> kristenbb: run the command "sudo fdisk -l"
[19:22] <DreamPCs> hda is the first detected by Linux which normally indicated its the one the BIOS is set to boot from.
[19:22] <DreamPCs> Typically the first hard drive is dev/sda
[19:23] <tacomaster> DreamPCs: very true
[19:23] <DreamPCs> I would try installed grub to sda and see if that fixes the issue.
[19:23] <kristenbb> tacomaster: what am I looking for ? it's quite verbose.
[19:23] <tacomaster> what are all the base ones forget the numbers following but your looking for /dev/sda or /dev/whatever
[19:24] <DreamPCs> rebooting, brb
[19:24] <kristenbb> tacomaster: well there's /dev/sda1               1  4294967495  2147403147+  ee  GPT and  /dev/sdb1               1   468062127   234401063+  ee  GPT
[19:24] <[OS]Cazazo> sorry guys what would be a good wysiwyg html editor for Ubuntu???
[19:25] <tacomaster> kristenbb: i can almost bet that you need to run the grub-install for /dev/sda instead of /dev/sdb
[19:25] <deadweasel> [OS]Cazazo: use BlueGriffon
[19:25] <deadweasel> but there are many
[19:26] <kristenbb> tacomaster: okay, let me try that. But as I said, ubuntu is on sdb, that I am sure of.
[19:26] <deadweasel> that's the first one that didn't crash on me in ubuntu 12.04
[19:26] <iceroot> [OS]Cazazo: i like kompozer
[19:26] <deadweasel> pretty stable
[19:26] <tacomaster> kristenbb: it is not where the partition is its the first harddrive that the bios see's
[19:26] <kristenbb> tacomaster: ok,  sudo grub-install /dev/sda gives Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[19:26] <starbuck> hi guys, i want to upgrade my 4 years old laptop with a quick ssd, my question is: do i have to take of something when using the ssd, or will work everything like i'm used to it with a normal "old"hdd? will partitioning be available?
[19:27] <yeats> [OS]Cazazo: or bluefish
[19:27] <tacomaster> kristenbb: one second
[19:27] <iceroot> starbuck: there is no difference for the software if using an ssd or a normal hdd, you can do the same thing
[19:27] <[OS]Cazazo> I guess blue fish isn't wysiwyg
[19:27] <iceroot> starbuck: if that was your question
[19:27] <guzz> links -g displaying very small screen in my vty
[19:28] <[OS]Cazazo> deadweasel: I'll have a look at it...
[19:28] <starbuck> iceroot: yes, that's what i wanted to know... no difference except a higher speed
[19:28] <[OS]Cazazo> BlueGriffon is at the repos???
[19:28] <BigFist> anyone having problems with canon printer missing CMYK color mode ?
[19:28] <yeats> [OS]Cazazo: are you trying to replace something like dreamweaver?  if so, there's not a lot out there in the F/LOSS world that comes close
[19:29] <[OS]Cazazo> not really...
[19:29] <deadweasel> [OS]Cazazo: I don't recall
[19:29] <iceroot> starbuck: for the end-user there is no difference expect the speed
[19:29] <yeats> (last time I looked, that is)
[19:29] <[OS]Cazazo> just some editor that is wysiwyg under ubuntu....
[19:29] <guzz> links -g displaying a very small screen? directfb settings? help
[19:29] <[OS]Cazazo> would like to edit an old work
[19:29] <starbuck> iceroot: thx, so i'm going to order that thing right now
[19:30] <[OS]Cazazo> I'll have a look thanks guys..
[19:31] <echoe> i don't know of any good wysiwyg editors for linux and tried out a few. you may find one that works for you
[19:31] <guzz> links -g displaying a very small screen? directfb settings? help
[19:32] <kyew2> [OS]Cazazo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_HTML_editors
[19:32] <tacomaster> kristenbb:  ok try this since your ubuntu is on /dev/sdb and your first hdd is /dev/sda. "sudo mkdir /media/mount" "sudo mount /dev/sdb* /media/mount" (*is for the partition number) "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/mount /dev/sda" be sure to read all to know were to replace your date with what i put to make since
[19:34] <tacomaster> kristenbb: if this doesn't work then it is past my knowledge in boot loaders
[19:36] <kristenbb> tacomaster: so, the output I receive is: /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: warning: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible./usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: warning: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.. /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
[19:37] <tacomaster> kristenbb: i am out of ideas to try i am sorry i don't really have the need for more than one hard drive so i have never used a second.
[19:38] <moses> when i attach a USB device where will it come up in ubuntu?
[19:38] <kristenbb> tacomaster: well thanks for your help thus far
[19:38] <moses> what irectory?
[19:38] <kristenbb> can someone else please help me to install ubuntu please ?
[19:38] <yeats> kristenbb: this is a fresh install, right?
[19:39] <kristenbb> yeats: yes
[19:39] <schultza> is there a way to downgrade the php package i have installed to 5.3.3 rather than 5.4.4 i have a critical program (to business needs) that needs to work and they currently have a bug based on 5.4.4
[19:39] <yeats> you could attempt to start over and people here can guide you through the partitioning and grub steps?
[19:39] <yeats> kristenbb: ^^
[19:40] <Geet> hi, i recently messed up something and lost my partition table. then using some testdisk or something i got it back up. but any new ubuntu setup does not show this partition table. how do i fix this?
[19:40] <kristenbb> yeats: yes I guess, it's only like the 4th or 5th time I'm trying to do that...
[19:40] <genii-around> moses: If you do: dmesg | tail       after you plug the usb device in, it will usually say in there what the device is. Typically if it's a hard drive the designation will be something like /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc   ... if it's a usb modem of some kind, typically /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyUSB1   and so on
[19:40] <miclen> hi guys
[19:40] <tacomaster> Geet: have you tried to just mount manually?
[19:40] <moses> <3
[19:41] <somnambulant> how would I echo (or any with any other tool) a string to the next to last line of a file?
[19:41] <Geet> tacomaster, no. how do i do that?
[19:41] <kristenbb> yeats: but can I not first purge the boot loaders of the previous installations ? I have EFI settings, gpt settings, and so forth, that I don't need and that mess up everything.
[19:41] <BillyZane2> hi
[19:41] <BillyZane2> for some odd reason, i can't seem to get X11 forwarding to work
[19:42] <yeats> kristenbb: to be honest, I've not had to deal with EFI, so I'm unsure on how to answer that question
[19:42] <BillyZane2> i checked sshd_config and ssh_config, X11forwarding is enabled, as well as Xauth
[19:42] <kristenbb> yeats: ok so let me try once more... i'll get back here soon.
[19:42] <tacomaster> Geet: run the command "sudo fdisk -l" find the partition and "sudo mount /dev/* /media/"
[19:42] <yeats> BillyZane2: how are you connecting?
[19:42] <BillyZane2> i'm using PuTTy, i have enabled X11 forwarding in my settings
[19:42] <pcarson> hey
[19:43] <BillyZane2> yeats: i am connecting from my school computer to my home computer
[19:43] <Geet> tacomaster, will this fix the table not showing up?
[19:43] <moses> it didnt work :(
[19:43] <yeats> BillyZane2: ah - so you're on Windows?
[19:43] <BillyZane2> yeats: that's right
[19:44] <moses> no dir came up
[19:44] <BillyZane2> yeats: however, there is a linux on a few computers, and i've tried using them as well
[19:44] <tacomaster> Geet: no it will just get you to your data with out having to jack with it
[19:45] <yeats> BillyZane2: not sure what needs to be done on Windows for X forwarding to work - you might need to try ##windows for that
[19:45] <BillyZane2> ok
[19:45] <BillyZane2> thanks
[19:45] <yeats> BillyZane2: from a Linux box with a GUI, should be as simple as 'ssh -X user@host'
[19:45] <prophit> For pidgin on 13.04.. how do I bring up the settings menu? I've right clicked on the buddy list all over the place but can't find any menus
[19:46] <zilla> hi i've tried 3 different ubuntu versions using *STARTUP DISC CREATOR* and everyone one comes up "Missing Operating System" on boot
[19:46] <zilla> any ideas?
[19:46] <tacomaster> Geet: http://askubuntu.com/questions/48717/how-to-manually-fix-a-partition-table
[19:46] <zilla> is there a good format to make my USB flash drive?
[19:46] <Geet> tacomaster, i have windows 7 so i can access my data alright. I want to replace mint with gnome ubuntu. but the setup does not show the partitions. the whole 640gb harddisk is shown as a single unit.
[19:46] <yeats> prophit: you don't see them in the top bar?
[19:46] <prophit> yeats: just discovered the top bar.. thanks
[19:46] <kristenbb1> yeats: ok so here I am again, doing the installation one more time. What do you want me to do ?
[19:46] <zilla> would it benefit me to install a new MBR on my flash drive?
[19:46] <zilla> will try anything
[19:46] <tacomaster> Geet: ok so you want to resize the partitons?
[19:47] <genii-around> BillyZane2: Does:  grep nolisten /etc/X11/xinit       produce a result?
[19:47] <tacomaster> Geet: if you get gparted you can make the full partitons and shrink it down and make a new partition to put linux on
[19:47] <Geet> tacomaster, no. only want to select the already existing 20gb ext4 partition for installation. but no list is shown.
[19:48] <Geet> tacomaster, i have a ext4 partition and just want to install ubuntu on it. but it is not visible in the list.
[19:48] <tacomaster> Geet: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162631/ubuntu-12-04-installer-does-not-recognize-drive-partitions
[19:48] <zilla> sandisk 4gb USB flash drive formatted W95 fat32 returns "MISSING OPERATING SYSTEM" on ubuntu 13,12,11
[19:49] <zilla> anything to try?
[19:49] <echoe> zilla, what kind? cruzer?
[19:49] <zilla> echoe: yea
[19:49] <yeats> kristenbb1: well, this is your installation that's not working, so what I want really isn't the issue, but I would suggest sharing how you're doing the partitioning setup, possibly using screenshots or a pastebin
[19:49] <echoe> weird, i have one and it is recognized without any issues
[19:49] <zilla> echoe: i have gotten other USB flash keys/drives to work in the past with live boot
[19:50] <echoe> might want to try reformatting and/or using a different usb port
[19:50] <zilla> hrmm
[19:50] <zilla> reformatting to what?
[19:50] <zilla> it is current W95 fat32
[19:50] <kristenbb> yeats: well should I use the default installation process, or go to the advanced mode ? I've never been there and wouldn't know what to do...
[19:51] <yeats> kristenbb: the default should be fine
[19:51] <kristenbb> yeats: that's what I tried a few times already
[19:51] <kristenbb> yeats: If I redo exactly the same steps as before, I except I'll end up with the same issue...
[19:52] <yeats> kristenbb: okay - well if you've given up on it, I guess there's no point in my helping you, right?
[19:53] <kristenbb> yeats: no I mean you've asked me to reinstall everything and tell you step by step what's happening, but in the end you just want me to do the default options? This I was able to do on my own, and it didn't work.
[19:53] <yeats> kristenbb: I'm not sure I can help here - I'm sorry
[19:54] <kristenbb> it's okay, thanks for your help.;
[19:54] <kristenbb> Can someone please guide me through the installation process ? I've been trying 5 times now, and I was not able to start ubuntu 13.04 once.
[19:55] <zilla> hi
[19:55] <zilla> is it possible to format a usb drive with ONLY one partition?
[19:55] <zilla> i think it's messing up my live usb
[19:56] <zilla> bah
[19:56] <zilla> where are all the smart people -.-
[19:56] <tacomaster> kristenbb: i found this and pretty sure this is the answer to your problem
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> zilla  use gparted, select the usb stick (right, up) and delete all
[19:56] <tacomaster> kristenbb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[19:56] <tijs> Anyone have experience with vrjuggler?
[19:57] <zilla> i cant install gparted
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> zilla  how so?
[19:57] <zilla> im on 10.10 unsupported and dist-upgrade fails
[19:57] <tacomaster> kristenbb: forgot to have you chroot before the grub-install sorry im retarded
[19:57] <zilla> needs >python2.7-minimal
[19:57] <zilla> just trying to get this usb bootable
[19:58] <kristenbb> tacomaster: so wait what to do from here ? I'm trying to install ubuntu once again.  Should I abort and go back to the live cd ?
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> zilla  unetbootin lets you format a usb stick
[19:58] <tacomaster> kristenbb: oooo sorry didnt know you were reinstalling after you have it installed if you still have the issue use that site
[19:59] <zilla> MonkeyDust: thanks for your help but i tried that after 'startup disc creator' failed
[19:59] <kristenbb> tacomaster: well I'm just trying to follow the instructions I am given here, I honestly have no clue what i'm doing, I just want to install ubuntu.
[19:59] <zilla> ill try the other usb port
[19:59] <tacomaster> kristenbb: on that website i linked?
[19:59] <kristenbb> tacomaster: would you like me to continue with the process or abort and go back to the live cd ?
[20:00] <tacomaster> kristenbb: if you have already started re-installing that finish that
[20:01] <kristenbb> tacomaster: the installation has not started yet, it's asking me to choose whether to reinstall ubuntu 13.04, install another 13.04 alongside 13.04, erase and reinstall, or do "something else".
[20:01] <kristenbb> tacomaster: or alternatively, just restart to the live cd.
[20:01] <tacomaster> kristenbb: then go back to livecd mode
[20:01] <kristenbb> ok
[20:02] <simpleirc> hi
[20:04] <tacomaster> kristenbb: this one seems to be a bit more update and easier to follow http://www.noobslab.com/2011/07/install-grub-2-on-ubuntu-from-live-cd.html
[20:05] <kristenbb> tacomaster: ok I'm back to the live cd. I'll try the commands from the new link.
[20:06] <tacomaster> kristenbb: just remeber to not follow them to a t just remeber that the drive names change
[20:07] <OliverJAsh> where can i find themes for terminal?
[20:07] <OliverJAsh> i want preset ones
[20:08] <kristenbb> tacomaster: so I tried update-grub2 from the chrooted environment. The output is: found linux image: /boot/vm...    found initrd image: /boot/initrd...          found memtest86+ image: ... cannot find list of partitions ! try mounting /sys). done.
[20:09] <CKLMN> skype wont launch , can u help ?
[20:09] <CKLMN> ubuntu 13.04 btw
[20:10] <xikofreak> hi everyone somebody can help me??, I need to install java on chromium and i want install it by terminal
[20:10] <CKLMN> i also tried a fix i found , but didnt help
[20:11] <echoe> http://askubuntu.com/questions/47240/how-can-i-enable-java-in-chromium ?
[20:11] <echoe> sure it isn't installed? you can download the rpm and install from adobe
[20:11] <CKLMN> skype wont launch , can u help ?
[20:12] <DJones> echoe: Ubuntu doesn't use rpm's
[20:12] <tacomaster> kristenbb: ok then run "sudo mount --bind /sys /where/ever/you/mounted/it/sys" just replace where ever you mounted it with where you mounted it just have /sys at the end
[20:12] <xikofreak> im trying ty
[20:12] <kristenbb> tacomaster: so I need to "exit" first right ?
[20:12] <CKLMN> anyone fixed skype on 13.04 >?
[20:13] <tacomaster> kristenbb: yes sorry forgot to say that
[20:13] <tacomaster> kristenbb: lol making me think to much :D
[20:13] <Bsims> I'm looking for a good console font that supports box-drawing characters better than consolas; any ideas
[20:13] <demonio> how can i check where my device usb send date?
[20:14] <kristenbb> tacomaster: ok this time the output was the very same, except for the error part. it ended with 'done'. Should I reboot ?
[20:15] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to run GIMP on Ubuntu 13.04, but I just get this error: "gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: gtk_box_new".  Any tips?
[20:15] <tacomaster> kristenbb: ok if it all ended with no error then reboot and if you dont see grub then you put grub on the wrong partition you just need to switch the one you installed grub to but you have the basics to do it now
[20:15] <tacomaster> kristenbb: not partition sorry wrong hard drive
[20:15] <tacomaster> kristenbb: make since?
[20:16] <kristenbb> tacomaster: so I rebooted, and I still get the same error message. "no such partition".
[20:16] <ubuntu-gnome> tacomaster, i asked you about the partition problem. here is a screenshot of the setup screen. this is the problem i am having. http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=4cebc6a
[20:17] <tacomaster> kristenbb: hmmm give me a few more mins to think sorry
[20:18] <ubuntu-gnome> tacomaster, and this is the nautilus screenshot. so why is the setup not showing these partitions. http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=0d0a05c
[20:18] <mcscruff> is there a way to install  linux-headers-3.5.0-30-generic on 13.04
[20:18] <mcscruff> i cant see it in the repo
[20:19] <arcripex> hey anyway of downgrading ubuntu 13.04 to ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[20:20] <OliverJAsh> where can i get terminal themes?
[20:20] <bekks> arcripex: Reinstall 12.04
[20:20] <gordonjcp> arcripex: you can try editing /etc/apt/sources.list to point to 12.04 and update, but that will most likely break stuff
[20:20] <bekks> OliverJAsh: A terminal has no themes. :)
[20:20] <gordonjcp> arcripex: give it a shot, you're going to be reinstalling *anyway*
[20:20] <OliverJAsh> bekks: color scheme
[20:21] <OliverJAsh> join /terminator
[20:21] <OliverJAsh> oops
[20:22] <bekks> OliverJAsh: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/148/colorizing-your-terminal-and-shell-environment
[20:22] <arcripex> ok anyway of installing openvpn network manager offline as in downloading the tar.gz file and installing it manually
[20:22] <kristenbb> bekks: hello again, I was still not able to launch ubuntu :(
[20:23] <e342e> wdd
[20:25] <ubuntu-gnome> can any one suggest what do I do at this screen? http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=4cebc6a
[20:25] <tacomaster> kristenbb: what other os's do you have on the machine?
[20:25] <kristenbb> tacomaster: none
[20:26] <woutersimons> ubuntu-gnome
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-gnome  new table, create /home, swap end /
[20:26] <woutersimons> if you are installing .. create a partition
[20:26] <kristenbb> tacomaster: however I tried various unsuccessful attempts, so I don't know what's the current state of the boot loaders, partition tables and such...
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-gnome  new table, create /home, swap and /
[20:27] <ubuntu-gnome> MonkeyDust, but i already have ext4 partition and want to install it to that partition. that is not being shown at this screen
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-gnome  and you have that on sda ? how many disks do you have?
[20:27] <ubuntu-gnome> MonkeyDust, this are my partitions shown correctly in nautilus: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=0d0a05c
[20:28] <ubuntu-gnome> MonkeyDust, only one hard disk
[20:28] <kristenbb> tacomaster: my setup is quite simple, I have a /dev/sda hard drive which contain 3 partitions, all of which are data, and a /dev/sdb that I would like to install ubuntu into.
[20:29] <kristenbb> yet I'm not able to install ubuntu successfully :(. The error I get is always: error: no such partition.
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-gnome  what's the output of sudo fdisk -l ? paste it here and give us the url   http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:30] <echoe> ... does ubuntu use .deb files instead of rpm's. it does doesn't it
[20:30]  * echoe facepalms
[20:30] <robottinosino> why does man interfaces not have any info on the network command for the auto stanza of an inet static? man interfaces | grep --color=always  '\<network\>'
[20:30] <ubuntu-gnome> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5691623/
[20:30] <ubuntu-gnome> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5691623/
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> echoe  ubuntu uses .deb
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-gnome  now thàt looks like a mess ;-)
[20:31] <ubuntu-gnome> MonkeyDust, :( recoverable i hope?
[20:31] <arcripex> ok anyway of installing openvpn network manager offline as in downloading the tar.gz file and installing it manually
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-gnome  normally i'd say: backup, delete all partitions and start over...
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-gnome  i'd like to see the output of blkid    (use pastebin)
[20:33] <ubuntu-gnome> MonkeyDust, at present eveythings working fine but. the grub loader shows mint and windows7 at boot screen. and then i am able to use both of them. so is there any i can fix this without starting all over .
[20:34] <ubuntu-gnome> MonkeyDust,
[20:34] <ubuntu-gnome> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5691634/
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-gnome  if you can use both, what is your issue exactly?
[20:35] <ubuntu-gnome> now i want to remove mint and install ubuntu
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> ah
[20:35] <ubuntu-gnome> :D
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-gnome  backup mint, boot a live cd or usb, use gparted, delete the mint partition, install ubuntu on that partition
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> make sure you don't delete the wrong parition
[20:38] <ubuntu-gnome> the gparted thing shows a unallocated space of 600gb ie my whole hard disk. it is not showing any partitions.
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> yes, you said that, it's odd
[20:39] <Pechona> Hola<....
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-gnome  the "empty" screenshot, is that in a live session?
[20:40] <ubuntu-gnome> MonkeyDust, yes
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-gnome  and which ubuntu version is it?
[20:42] <robottinosino> how can i temporarily disable the wifi scanning? network manager?
[20:42] <ubuntu-gnome> MonkeyDust, 13.04 ubuntu gnome
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> gnome-remix?
[20:43] <ubuntu-gnome> no the official ubuntu gnome
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-gnome  if you click revert, what happens? if it asks to confirm, don't
[20:46] <ubuntu-gnome> MonkeyDust, nothing happened
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-gnome  almost 11pm on this side of the planet, i'm off, hope you make it
[20:47] <ubuntu-gnome> MonkeyDust, thanks for the help..
[20:47] <DJones> ubuntu-gnome: Have you tried asking in #ubuntu-gnome Thats the dedicated support channel for Ubuntu Gnome, I'm not sure how busy that channel is, but there may be somebody with an idea
[20:49] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know what is exactly dav:// ?
[20:49] <dalfry> Hello. Need help with ipv6 config on a 12.04 server install (fully updated)
[20:49] <mojtaba> *davs
[20:49] <dalfry> I cannot get eth0 to configure ipv6. eth1 and eth2 on this machine automatically configure their IP addresses
[20:49] <ubuntu-gnome> DJones, ok i will try. but i dont think this is ubuntu gnome specific. i doubt any setup will give the same problem.
[20:50] <dalfry> the ipv6 line does not even show up for eth0
[20:50] <DJones> ubuntu-gnome: I only suggested it in case there was a difference in the installer that they know something about
[20:51] <woutersimons> dalfry .. what is the rest of the network .. are eth1 &2 on the same network as eth0
[20:51] <dalfry> no. different networks
[20:51] <dalfry> eth0 is my wan link
[20:51] <dalfry> eth1 and 2 are internal networks
[20:51] <woutersimons> are other machines on the eth0 network properly getting their ipv6 adress ??
[20:52] <dalfry> This comes up empty for eth0 - ip -6 addr show eth0
[20:52] <dalfry> but shows the auto configured IPs for other interfaces
[20:53] <woutersimons> where are you getting your ipv6 adresses ??
[20:53] <dalfry> those are all auto configured IPs
[20:53] <woutersimons> dirrectly from provider or do you have a tunnel set up ??
[20:54] <dalfry> internal network is all auto configured. for the wan link (eth0), I need the interface to first have an auto configured IP so that the v6-dhcp client can then fetch a v6 address
[20:54] <dalfry> that first step is now working for eth0
[20:55] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know what is exactly davs:// in nautilus address bar?
[20:56] <Pici> mojtaba: I'd guess it represnets a webdav url
[20:57] <mojtaba> Pici: Do you know what protocols does it use?
[20:58] <dalfry> mojtaba: most probably https
[20:59] <Pricey> mojtaba: webdav is itself a protocol. Sure it may be inside http/https, but also tcp etc. at lower layers?
[20:59] <Pricey> mojtaba: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV
[21:00] <kristenbb> I'm still having issues to install ubuntu... can someone please help me ?
[21:02] <cp> kristenbb:   if you don't tell us, well, we won't know :S
[21:03] <kristenbb> cp: tell you what ?
[21:03] <johnjohn101> like what issues you are seeing.
[21:04] <kristenbb> I have a regular setup, with a ssd I'd like to install ubuntu on, and a hdd with data. I installed ubuntu on the ssd, but I get a grub error: partition missing.
[21:06] <somnambulant> anyone have any idea why this command is working when you run from terminal, but DOES NOT work when you run it as a bash script? sed -e '/eth0/d' -e '/eth1/d' -e 's/eth2/eth0/g' -e 's/eth3/eth1/g' /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules-temp && mv -f /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules-temp 70-persistent-net.rules
[21:06] <kristenbb> I have tried many things, including launching a live cd and chrooting into my ssd, then updating grub, including using the boot repair gui tool, and so on and so forth, as I was told here. yet nothing worked, I have been through 5 installation procedures already, and it's been 4 days since I'm looking for help
[21:07] <acovrig> I would like to setup a virtual environment: xen,kvm,or virtualbox to run a webserver,router distro, and possibly something for a thin client; which should I use: xen,kvm,or virtualbox?
[21:07] <Pricey> somnambulant: What doesn't work about it? I note that last bit doesn't include a full path?
[21:07] <johnjohn101> kristenbb: what happens if you install to the ssd but you do not have your hdd connected?
[21:07] <somnambulant> Pricey: ouch OK wow
[21:07] <Pricey> somnambulant: hmm?
[21:07] <ekim> Hi all,
[21:07] <somnambulant> Pricey: man I've been working on this too long.. that was it of course
[21:07] <kristenbb> johnjohn101: I have not tried that but I don't have easy access to the drives.
[21:07] <somnambulant> Pricey: err I mean that must be it
[21:08] <ekim> Does anyone here know a linux program that I can install in Ubuntu 12.04 that is like Photoshop?
[21:08] <kristenbb> johnjohn101: but i'm sure I'm not the first one with such a normal setup
[21:08] <Pricey> somnambulant: woop woop. You may also want to look into the '-i' option to sed. (Some seds i've used don't have it though... but pretty sure Ubuntu's will.)
[21:08] <tacomaster> ekim: gimp
[21:08] <marko-_-> Hello can someone help me how to use spell check in libreoffice writter? Like here in xchat where it underlines the wrong words with red (like word does too). I need it for an english project
[21:09] <johnjohn101> kristenbb: i was just trying to eliminate the ssd as the source of the problem.
[21:09] <Pricey> somnambulant: (I'm sorry, it'll remove all need for half of what you've done)
[21:09] <kristenbb> johnjohn101: hdd you mean
[21:09] <music> I was also wondering about using dual-boot on a compaq presario cq-62 laptop that, unfortunately has windows 7
[21:09] <ekim> tacomaster:  does that Gimp edit, touchup, manipulate photos real good?
[21:09] <johnjohn101> ssd is /dev/sda   hdd is /dev/sdb ?
[21:10] <eager> hi all, I'd like to have a folder in my home dir with several executable scripts; I can put symlinks to usr/local/bin/ to make the system see these scripts as commands; but:
[21:10] <gordonjcp> ekim: it's okay, although it's rather different to Photoshop
[21:10] <eager> can I symlink only the dir-name?
[21:10] <tacomaster> ekim: if you cant find it in the base program there are tons of add-ons that you can attach does every thing i have ever needed it for.
[21:10] <kristenbb> johnjohn101: no, ssd is /dev/sdb and hdd is /dev/sda. I don't know why. I'd like to install ubuntu on the ssd. the hdd contains data
[21:10] <eager> so that I have to do it only once?
[21:10] <music> spell-check is usually used by right-clicking and then clicking on the correct spelling of the word
[21:10] <gordonjcp> ekim: do not expect all your muscle-memory keyboard shortcuts to work ;-)
[21:10] <linelevel> Okay guys, I just performed a clean install of Ubuntu and set up a LUKS-encrypted root partition. I did *not* use LVM  on top of LUKS this time. When I boot the system, I get dropped into a initramfs shell and have to manually call `cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 crypt`, after which I exit the shell (Ctrl-D) and it boots fine. But why won't it attempt the luksOpen on its own?
[21:10] <linelevel> It's  as if my /etc/crypttab didn't exist.
[21:11] <gordonjcp> ekim: also you can use command-line tools for a lot of photo processing, depending on what you're doing
[21:11] <johnjohn101> kristenbb: do you know how to used the manual partitioning tool and mount / on the ssd?
[21:11] <Pricey> somnambulant: See it? :P
[21:11] <ekim> I need one that is has good features and some power to it, like photoshop!
[21:11] <acovrig> imagemagick
[21:11] <gordonjcp> ekim: I use ImageMagick for scaling, rotating and watermarking large batches of images
[21:11] <kristenbb> johnjohn101: come again?
[21:11] <somnambulant> Pricey: thanks much for your help (or eyes :)
[21:11] <ekim> I have photos that I need to change the background on for starters.
[21:11] <somnambulant> Pricey: so with -i I don't need to redirect?
[21:12] <gordonjcp> ekim: bit of command-line scripting and walk away and leave it for ten minutes ;-)
[21:12] <johnjohn101> kristenbb: when you go to install, you do the partitioning of ssd yourself (not automatic) and then put / as the mount point.
[21:12] <Pricey> somnambulant: -i edits the file in place.
[21:12] <ekim> no command line as I am a linux noob...LOL
[21:12] <gordonjcp> ekim: come back, boom, 30000 images rescaled, watermarked and recompressed with a thumbnail copy
[21:12] <somnambulant> Pricey: hmm ok centos will have to have that too for what im doing
[21:12] <music> you can get photoshop for free but it isnt the new one
[21:12] <Pricey> somnambulant: You can also specify a suffix to get a backup.
[21:12] <Pricey> somnambulant: It does.
[21:12] <kristenbb> johnjohn101: no I have not tried that. Would you like me to try a 6th installation with this option ?
[21:13] <ekim> music:  where and how old of version?
[21:13] <somnambulant> Pricey: so I keep all the -e commands, add the -i, and remove the redirects I guess... k
[21:13] <somnambulant> Pricey: thanks
[21:13] <music> snapfiles I think it is maybe 2007??
[21:13] <johnjohn101> kristenbb, i would try that.  there isn't anything on the ssd now, correct?  you may have to make a swap partition as well
[21:13] <Pricey> somnambulant: yup and the mv.
[21:13] <somnambulant> Pricey: right ok cool
[21:14] <kristenbb> johnjohn101: well there is just a failed attempt...
[21:14] <kristenbb> johnjohn101: can you guide me through the process then please ? I'm tired of trying by myself and failing :(
[21:14] <johnjohn101> kristenbb: ok let me know when you get to the partition part
[21:14] <Pricey> somnambulant: test it... "echo foo > bar && sed -i -e 's/foo/baz/' bar && cat bar"
[21:16] <ekim> it doesnt show up in the software depository...imagemagick
[21:16] <chimeracoder> I have a Unity question - hopefully this is the right place to ask it:
[21:16] <elisa87> how can I install gimple for extracting the intermediates from the C/C++ code like CFG (Control Flow Graph)?
[21:17] <chimeracoder> I have a setup with two monitors - is there a way to specify a keyboard shortcut to change the focus to the other monitor?
[21:17] <chimeracoder> (I have focus-follows-mouse, so if there's a keyboard shortcut to place the mouse on the other monitor, that might work too)
[21:18] <kristenbb> johnjohn101: ok I'm almost there. One thing I'd like to mention is that during the previous installations, I tried things such as a GPT partition table, and a EFI mode. I'm not sure what these mean, but I think it's part of why it is so messed up right now.
[21:18] <gordonjcp> kristenbb: aha
[21:18] <kristenbb> johnjohn101: I'd like to go back to just a normal drive
[21:18] <gordonjcp> kristenbb: you've got it in one
[21:19] <gordonjcp> kristenbb: GPT puts a partition table at each end of the drive
[21:19] <gordonjcp> kristenbb: zero out the first and last few blocks of the drive
[21:19] <kristenbb> gordonjcp: okay, so what to do from here? I'm trying to install once more.
[21:20] <gordonjcp> kristenbb: something like "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd<whatever> bs=1M count=1"
[21:20] <gordonjcp> kristenbb: followed by the same thing with "skip=<some number" tagged on the end
[21:21] <gordonjcp> where <some number> is a bit less than the total number of blocks on your drive
[21:21] <adymitruk> I'm trying to increase the ulimit  and any changes I make in the files according to this documentation don't help http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-increase-the-maximum-number-of-open-files/
[21:21] <kristenbb> gordonjcp: where to do that from ? I'm at the installation procedure now.
[21:21] <adymitruk> I'm on ubuntu 12.10 64bdt
[21:21] <g0to> hello there
[21:21] <adymitruk> even after a reboot, my riak user complains about a 1024 file limit and says it is expectiong 4096
[21:21] <g0to> I'm having problems with my volume control
[21:22] <g0to> the lower level I can set using the media keys is 18%
[21:22] <mojtaba> Pricey: Do you know how can I access to this shared folder from cmd?
[21:22] <mojtaba> dalfry: Do you know how can I get access to this shared folder via cmd?
[21:23] <g0to> and the three first strokes from the bottom (mute) don't do nothing
[21:23] <Pricey> mojtaba: Have you googled "mount webdav"?
[21:23] <mojtaba> Pricey: I have mounted it already
[21:23] <Pricey> mojtaba: Awesome. So just access the folder like any other.
[21:24] <mojtaba> Pricey: there was a guide in my host website and they just told there to copy the address in nautilus.
[21:24] <kristenbb> johnjohn101: are you still there  ?
[21:24] <mojtaba> Pricey: I took a look at /media, but there were nothing!
[21:26] <mojtaba> Pricey: ls -l, do not shows it in my home folder.
[21:29] <dekae> is there a cli/curses-based "post-install wizard" for ubuntu, similar to anaconda?  if so, what's it called, and is there a way to launch it on startup?
[21:29] <dekae> firstboot-ish
[21:29] <aezrtyuiop> whats uppp
[21:29] <kristenbb> Can someone please help me to install ubuntu ? :(
[21:29] <mojtaba> Pricey: Do you know how can I have access it through cmd?
[21:30] <Pricey> mojtaba: I'm not sure how to access it if accessed via nautilut. I'm not sure if it'll even be mounted...
[21:30] <g0to> kristenbb, where did you get lost?
[21:31] <kristenbb> g0to: I am not able to boot into it, I get a grub error: 'no such partition'.
[21:31] <mojtaba> Pricey: How can I find if it is mounted or not?
[21:31] <bprompt> kristenbb:    let's start from the very beginning, you burned the .iso to a usb stick?
[21:31] <Pricey> mojtaba: I would've expected it to show in the output to 'mount'
[21:32] <th0r> mojtaba: open a terminal and type 'mount'
[21:32] <kristenbb> bprompt: no, a cd.
[21:32] <g0to> kristenbb, is that the first and only message you get when you insert your bootable media and start your computer?
[21:32] <shortstraw8> I have never setup a VPN and was wondering how to do it without a third party server. I just want to connect my Win7 laptop to my Ubuntu 12.04 desktop. I tried using what it come with (type in VPN brings up a program) and it does not connect. It says server might be unreachable.
[21:32] <bprompt> kristenbb:    then you booted to the cd and the bootup choices came up, to where did you install? "auto" to use the whole disk or manually creating your own partitions?
[21:32] <kristenbb> g0to: yes it is the first and only message I get when I start my computer. It's not related to inserting a bootable media, if I insert a cd, it starts from there.
[21:32] <chirayu> shortstraw8, you are trying to access it from the outside?
[21:33] <chirayu> what are you trying to accomplish?
[21:33] <kristenbb> bprompt: auto.
[21:33] <mojtaba> Pricey: th0r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5691796/
[21:33] <bprompt> kristenbb:   so, you only have 1 partition there, with ubuntu only, right?
[21:33] <bprompt> well, plus the swap partition
[21:33] <kristenbb> bprompt: I have two disks, a hdd (sda) with data, and a ssd (sdb) where I'd like to install ubuntu.
[21:34] <shortstraw8> chirayu, yes they are not connected, other than my wireless router I guess
[21:34] <bprompt> kristenbb:   so you installed to the "sdb", right?
[21:34] <linelevel> In case anyone cares, I figured out my LUKS boot problem!
[21:34] <chirayu> they are both in a same physical location? if so, why do you need VPN?
[21:34] <linelevel> I am so happy right now.
[21:34] <chirayu> just set up LAN
[21:34] <kristenbb> bprompt: yes I did. And right now, as you said, I have the default installation with a swap and so forth.
[21:34] <chirayu> linelevel, that's awesome
[21:35] <g0to> kristenbb, you said you get the error message when trying to install or I just missunderstood ?
[21:35] <shortstraw8> chirayu,  I am going to be working out of town and have school file on my desktop that I want to access while I am gone.
[21:36] <kristenbb> g0to: no you misunderstood, sorry for explaining poorly. I was able to install successfully, but it's when I try to start the computer that I receive this message
[21:36] <kristenbb> bprompt: at this point I'd like to mention that during previous (which also failed) installations, some people told me here to choose a gpt table, and a EFI thing. I don't know what these mean.
[21:36] <g0to> kristenbb, I see now
[21:37] <kristenbb> g0to, bprompt: so the question is, what to do from here ? Would you like me to launch the live cd, to start yet another installation, to do something else ?
[21:37] <bprompt> kristenbb:    hold the mayo,  did the install fail during the installation process, or you're just saying it failed because you can't get in the installed ubuntu on "sdb"?
[21:38] <kristenbb> bprompt: the second one.
[21:38] <bprompt> kristenbb:    or did the installation finished "successfully" or did not?
[21:38] <kristenbb> bprompt: yes it appeared to finish successfully, but it didn't, since I'm not able to start ubuntu.
[21:38] <bprompt> kristenbb:   ok.. so the installation 'worked', your Grub in the MBR of the fixed disk isn't renewed to reflect that then
[21:39] <g0to> kristenbb, did you tried installing other OSs before on that disk?
[21:39] <kristenbb> bprompt: yes, though I'm not sure I have a MBR.
[21:39] <bprompt> kristenbb:    well, you do, all systems would have one :)
[21:39] <kristenbb> g0to: yes, including this one over 5 times now, for the last 3 days :(
[21:40] <mojtaba> Pricey: th0r: did you see it?
[21:40] <kristenbb> bprompt: I'm not so sure, I'm not an expert but as I said I think I have a gpt or efi (not sure the difference).
[21:40] <g0to> kristenbb, I meant, a working one. Maybe you bought that computer with Windows pre installed
[21:40] <th0r> kristenbb: near the end of the install, when it installs grub, do you tell it to use sdb (I *THNIK* it will default to sda unless told otherwise)
[21:41] <th0r> mojtaba: I didn't see anything mounted other than the initial (sda) hard drive, and the vm
[21:41] <kristenbb> th0r: I don't recall changing this, but in the bios, I tried starting from sda or sdb, and both give the same error.
[21:41] <mojtaba> th0r: Then it is not installed, just I have it in the nautilus?
[21:42] <kristenbb> g0to: No it was a ssd I bought by myself.
[21:43] <g0to> kristenbb, did you try some googling to ensure the disk is 100% compatible?
[21:43] <kristenbb> g0to: I had a working ubuntu in there before...
[21:43] <th0r> mojtaba: don't use nautilus, so can't help in that regard
[21:43] <bprompt> kristenbb:     using the bootable CD, don't install Ubuntu, choose the "try ubuntu" option, to start a Live Session, and then open a console window and try this -> http://pastie.org/7945290
[21:44] <bprompt> kristenbb:    all that does is, remakes the grub.conf in the SSD, and then will stick it in the MBR, "grub-install"
[21:45] <kristenbb> sorry my computer shut down for no reason. Did anyone say anything since I last spoke ?
[21:45] <tinhpt> how to install cloud "copy.com" for ubuntu?
[21:45] <bprompt> kristenbb:     using the bootable CD, don't install Ubuntu, choose the "try ubuntu" option, to start a Live Session, and then open a console window and try this -> http://pastie.org/7945290
[21:45] <bprompt> kristenbb:    all that does is, remakes the grub.conf in the SSD, and then will stick it in the MBR, "grub-install"
[21:46] <th0r> bprompt: if the ssd is sdb, do you want that script to install to sda? (just checking)
[21:46] <g0to> bprompt's solution sound great to me. Check it out, kristenbb  and tell us how it worked
[21:46] <bprompt> th0r:  nope :), thus my comments there :)
[21:47] <bprompt> kristenbb:    so  you know, your installation is fine, is just the Grub in the MBR is looking for 'older' UUIDs  or paths
[21:48] <dominic_> i have a question
[21:48] <g0to> go ahead, dominic_
[21:48] <bprompt> kristenbb:    also understand that, each Fixed disk has an MBR, and if you have many partitions, Grub uses the Fixed disk mbr, no partitions mbr
[21:48] <elisa87> when I am trying to install gcc plugin I receive these error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5691840/ do you know how to fix it?
[21:48] <kristenbb> bprompt: so wait, let's go step by step please ?
[21:49] <dominic_> i did a file in my home but when i try to open an other file in my home it doesnt work
[21:49] <a5m0> hi i just upgraded to 13.04 on a supermicro server and then ran all updates but now i'm getting a bug: soft lockup cpu stuck bug on startup
[21:49] <bprompt> kristenbb:   well, -> http://pastie.org/7945290     <- goes step by step :)
[21:49] <kristenbb> bprompt: this is unfortunately a list of commands I've tried before, and it didn't work.
[21:50] <g0to> elisa87, what's your current Ubuntu version?
[21:50] <bprompt> kristenbb:    well, is  a list I've used myself several times over, and worked, usually I install ubuntu 1st, then say win7, win7 kicks out grub, then I use a chroot like the pasted one, to stick grub back
[21:50] <elisa87> g0to: Ubuntu 12.04 and my gcc is gcc version 4.4.7 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.4.7-1ubuntu2)
[21:52] <dominic_> i do : cd /downloads : doenst work
[21:52] <kristenbb> bprompt: okay, so I'm at the update-grub part, and it says cannot find list of partitions, try mounting /sys. So I exit and mount /sys and try again, right ? I've been through all that already.
[21:52] <kristenbb> the link was not the same but the instructions were exactly equal.
[21:53] <bprompt> kristenbb:   did you mount the ssd?
[21:53] <bprompt> kristenbb:    and what did "fdisk -l" give you for the ssd?
[21:53] <kristenbb> bprompt: I didn't write any commands besides the ones in that link you gave me.
[21:54] <bprompt> kristenbb:   well, those are in the paste
[21:54] <kristenbb> bprompt: fdisk -l gives /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1, and a warning saying fdisk doesn't support gpt.
[21:54] <g0to> elisa87, did you try installing the dependencies by yourself?
[21:55] <g0to> elisa87, 'sudo apt-get install gcc-4.4'
[21:55] <Chvx> Which us best to use label or uuid?
[21:55] <bekks> Chvx: Doesnt matter basically. Two different approaches.
[21:55] <bprompt> kristenbb:    ok, mount the sdb1 then -> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[21:55] <dominic_> adwaita-cupertino what does it mean
[21:56] <kristenbb> bprompt: but 13.04 is not on sdb1, it's on sdb2.
[21:56] <g0to> dominic_, what are you trying to do? you might use the 'ls' command to list the contents in your home
[21:56] <bekks> kristenbb: fdisk does not support GPT.
[21:57] <bprompt> kristenbb:     .... ok.... then mount sbd2 :|, I was about to ask where is your installation, cuz sda may as well be an ssd
[21:57] <bekks> kristenbb: Whatever fdisk says, its output will not reflect your system, cause you are using GPT.
[21:57] <dominic_> i try to learn linux
[21:57] <bprompt> kristenbb:     sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[21:57] <kristenbb> yes that's what I did
[21:57] <kristenbb> and then I did sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc, and same for /dev and /sys
[21:58] <kristenbb> then chroot, then grub-install, then restart computer, and then the problem is still here.
[21:58] <bprompt> kristenbb:    ok, now mount the proc and dev directories -->  sudo mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc; sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
[21:58] <kristenbb> yep
[21:58] <g0to> dominic_, you should try reading. There is a whole world of readings out there where you can learn lots stuff
[21:58] <bprompt> kristenbb:   now,   -> sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[21:59] <kristenbb> yes I did all that.
[21:59] <bprompt> kristenbb:    ok, upgrade-grub
[21:59] <kristenbb> then update-grub, then grub-install, then restart.
[22:00] <bprompt> kristenbb:    then -> grub-install /dev/sdb   <--- sdb, no sdb2, just sdb
[22:00] <dominic_> i try what im reading
[22:01] <jolsiphur> Hello. I'm very new to Ubuntu and I'm having a weird issue. Could anyone help me out?
[22:01] <kristenbb> and then restart, right?
[22:01] <RobbyF> ask away
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, when ubuntu moves to mir, will fluxbox run on it?
[22:01] <kristenbb> bprompt: and then restart  ?
[22:02] <bprompt> kristenbb:     exit; then umount everything, -> sudo umount /mnt/proc; sudo umount /dev/dev; sudo umoun /mnt
[22:02] <bprompt> kristenbb:  then restart
[22:02] <jolsiphur> I'm trying to grab some files from network attached storage. When i try to copy them over to my local drive I get an error saying no such file or directory. How can I get my files moved over?
[22:02] <kristenbb> bprompt: ok, I restarted, the problem is still here.
[22:02] <g0to> kristenbb, you almost got it!
[22:03] <g0to> kristenbb, ohhh, maybe you don't :/
[22:03] <bprompt> kristenbb:    you have 2 hdd, does you bios give you a boot override option?
[22:03] <bprompt> kristenbb:    I'm thinking you have a Grub in "sda" and is the one bios is booting with
[22:04] <kristenbb> bprompt: yes, I tried to launch both, and both give the same error message. grub error: no such partition
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> jolsiphur: what does the nas use to share on the lan?
[22:05] <kristenbb> :'(
[22:05] <jolsiphur> It's using WINS to the best of my knowledge.
[22:06] <bprompt> kristenbb:    "no such partition" just means Grub is trying to access a nonexisten UUID or path, so, whatever Grub is kicking in, is very oudated and looking for old paths/devices, so not sure what you have in sda or .... whatever else, but I know the chrooting works
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> jolsiphur: wins is similar to a dns server
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> jolsiphur: do you mean samba?
[22:06] <jolsiphur> I believe so.
[22:07] <kristenbb> bprompt: using F8 when the computer starts, I can choose which device to boot from. I chose the ssd (/dev/sdb) and it produces the same error message.
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> jolsiphur: i suggest you use nmap to scan the device. If you find it has sftp then try connecting to that
[22:08] <jolsiphur> How do I do that?
[22:09] <mojtaba> I used fusedav to mount webdav, but I got this error message: "PROPFIND failed: Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer" Does anybody know what should I do?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> jolsiphur: install nmap, then run:  nmap ip.address.or.nas
[22:10] <bprompt> kristenbb:    can't say then.... I'd think something you're not doing, ... can't say
[22:11] <meoblast001> anyone have any idea why i'd have this issue? http://dpaste.com/1195702/
[22:12] <bprompt> meoblast001:     try -> sudo apt-get check;
[22:12] <bprompt> meoblast001:    that'd say which files are missing libraries
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> meoblast001: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[22:13] <bprompt> meoblast001:   but a "-f install" will fetch them anyhow
[22:13] <jolsiphur> I can't seem to find it with nmap. Though it doesn't help that it's built into my router. I know for a fact it's using Samba and i can find it using the file browser.
[22:13] <meoblast001> bprompt: complains about those radeon intel issues when i run check
[22:13] <kristenbb> bprompt: your instructions are not that hard to follow, I applied them one by one. The only thing I changed from your pastie was the UBUNTUPARTITIONHERE which I replaced by /dev/sdb2, the sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys, and the grub-install /dev/sdb.
[22:13] <meoblast001> ActionParsnip: quantal
[22:13] <kristenbb> bprompt: and I still get 'error: no such partition. grub rescue>'
[22:14] <meoblast001> hm, brb
[22:14] <bprompt> kristenbb:   it's not /sys, tis /proc, I assume that was just a typo
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> meoblast001: did you try bpromt's sugestion?
[22:15] <kristenbb> bprompt: no it was not a typo, I had to use 3 bind commands, /proc, /dev and /sys, otherwise I get an error saying /sys is not mounted.
[22:15] <mojtaba> I used fusedav to mount webdav, but I got this error message: "PROPFIND failed: Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer" Does anybody know what should I do?
[22:15] <bprompt> kristenbb:    must be a 13.04 thing, I don't get in 12.04 or older
[22:16] <kristenbb> bprompt: yes could be.
[22:16] <kristenbb> bprompt: in any case, I am still at the same error over and over again.
[22:17] <bprompt> kristenbb:     tried yet to do a "manual" install?    I mean, as in not selecting "auto" from the bootable cd installation menu
[22:17] <kristenbb> bprompt: no, would you like me to try that ?
[22:18] <bprompt> kristenbb:    all that does is, you make/create your own partitions and set them as root and/or swap
[22:18] <kristenbb> ok so let's try that, it will only be the 6th
[22:18] <bprompt> kristenbb:    sure, try using "ext4", don't forget to make 2, 1 for root, and a tiny one for the swap, and don't forget to "flag" the root as root
[22:19] <brendang> If I want to try ubuntu with kernel debuginfo, is there a version that is best to try? (12.04 LTS, 13.04, desktop, ?) I'll be using it for DTrace.
[22:19] <kristenbb> bprompt: wait please, guide me through this time, I've never done it manually before.
[22:19] <bprompt> kristenbb:   ok
[22:20] <kristenbb> bprompt: and once again, let me repeat that during previous installations, I had gpt and efi. I think these stay in between installations because fdisk -l still mentions gpt.
[22:20] <kristenbb> bprompt: I would really like to remove gpt and efi and all these things, to just have a normal installation.
[22:21] <bprompt> kristenbb:    well, upon "manual",  you'll have the choice to remove all partitions
[22:21] <kristenbb> bprompt: ok, I'm almost there.
[22:21] <kristenbb> bprompt: I'm starting to know all these steps by heart.
[22:22] <kristenbb> the first one is the language, then comes the choice whether to download updates while installing, and install third party software
[22:22] <kristenbb> I chose both
[22:22] <bprompt> kristenbb:  no updates
[22:22] <kristenbb> now it's about to ask me to go manual or auto, but it's still thinking.
[22:22] <bprompt> kristenbb:    that'd make it longer than necessary, 3rd party software is ok, no updates though
[22:23] <kristenbb> wait you want no updates? sorry I didn't know
[22:23] <kristenbb> I can go back though, but for now it's still thinking.
[22:24] <bprompt> kristenbb:   I've heard libreoffice 4.0 is crashy in 13.04, so you know
[22:24] <kristenbb> ok, so I chose english, then 3rd party, and then no updates. It's still thinking
[22:25] <lDromedario> Hi
[22:25] <bprompt> allo
[22:25] <sebuba> Hello, anyone see this error on ubuntu ? The used command is not allowed with this MySQL version
[22:25] <kristenbb> while it's thinking, let me state that my ssd is composed of 250GB. what kind of partitions (/,/home,swap and such) should I create?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> bprompt: not seeing any crashing in LO here....
[22:25] <sebuba> "The used command is not allowed with this MySQL version" = local-infile
[22:26] <bprompt> kristenbb:     delete all partitions, just to be safe
[22:26] <seronis> kristenbb: im too new to help but as (i think) i've seen you in here for 4 or 5 days you have my sympathy for all your problems and my respect for the tenacity to keep working on it
[22:26] <bprompt> ActionParsnip:    hmm, I have 3.0, works very well
[22:26] <kristenbb> seronis: yeah this is crazy, all I want is to install ubuntu, and look at all my troubles :(
[22:27] <lDromedario> ¿what is the best ubuntu version?
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: if you can, put your swap and /var and /home on a platter based storage
[22:27] <mojtaba> I used fusedav to mount webdav, but I got this error message: "PROPFIND failed: Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer" Does anybody know what should I do?
[22:27] <lDromedario> Now donwload Maverick
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> |dronedario: none and all
[22:27] <seronis> yeah i kinda feel guilty.. i switched from win7 to xubuntu 3 weeks ago and the whole process took under 30 minutes
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> |dromedario: maverick is no longer supported
[22:28] <iVito> Preise pangolin is
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> |dronedario: you will get zero updates and zero community support
[22:28] <bprompt> lDromedario:  I guess what ActionParsnip  meant was "no soup for you"   j/k
[22:29] <lDromedario> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/maverick/ ?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> |dronedario: you are clearly new to the OS, I suggest you use Precise. it is made to be solid and is LTS so supported til April 2017
[22:29] <lDromedario> Ok :S
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> |dromedario: installing maverick is like installing windows98. it will install but you wont get any support and no updates
[22:31] <tacomaster> lol alot has changed since maverick in a good way :D
[22:31] <bprompt> lDromedario:    why are you sticking with 10.10?   old hardware?
[22:31] <kristenbb> bprompt: ok so I am at the next step, where I can choose manual or auto. Just for reference, the choices are:  install ubuntu 13.04 alongside ubuntu 13.04, reinstall ubuntu 13.04, erase ubuntu 13.04 and reinstall, or "do something else".  Should I press do something else and proceed ?
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> |dromedario: if you dislike unity, install Xubuntu 12.04 and you will get the familiar 2 panel session as well as the long support
[22:31] <seronis> 'do something else' should let you manually choose your partitions
[22:31] <lDromedario> Then install Precise Pangolin?
[22:31] <bprompt> kristenbb:    "manual" :)
[22:31] <kristenbb> bprompt: ok so there I am
[22:32] <bprompt> kristenbb:    so, you see all partitions?
[22:32] <bprompt> lDromedario:    why are you sticking with 10.10?   old hardware?
[22:32] <lDromedario> No, but I like the interface at some point
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> |dromedario: i would yes. its probably more suited to your abilities
[22:33] <tacomaster> if you want the old interface look at a project called mate
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> |dromedario: it will also allow you to keep the install longer
[22:33] <mojtaba> I used fusedav to mount webdav, but I got this error message: "PROPFIND failed: Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer" Does anybody know what should I do?
[22:34] <bprompt> lDromedario:     gnome is not the only desktop manager, for say 12.04, and Unity isn't the only window manager either
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> bprompt: unity isnt a window manager
[22:34] <tacomaster> its a de
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> bprompt: compiz is the window manager and unity is a shell
[22:35] <bprompt> alright, so there, ok.... thought it was, but I can see ...
[22:35] <kristenbb> I can see my drives, no surprise there. /dev/sda (my hdd) is composed of: free space (1MB), /dev/sda1 (data), /dev/sda2 (data), /dev/sda3 (still data). then 30 GB free space. Then therre's sdb, composed of free space (1MB), then /dev/sdb1 (100MB) (efi !!!!), /dev/sdb2 (ext4-> ubuntu 13.04, around 230GB), /dev/sdb3 (18GB - probably swap, but it's not mentioned)
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> tacomaster: the DE is still gnone, unity does not replace gnome
[22:35] <kristenbb> bprompt: so what to do from here?
[22:35] <brainwash> compiz is a compositing manager
[22:35] <lDromedario> I  think you did not know that I'm Hispanic, and I am very slow to translate (lol)
[22:35] <bprompt> kristenbb:    delete all partitions in "sdb" or the ssd, so you'll only be left with "free space"
[22:36] <kristenbb> done
[22:37] <bprompt> kristenbb:    ok, now Create one, give it the size you want, and ... make it "root"
[22:37] <kristenbb> will I create another one for /home ?
[22:37] <th0r> kristenbb: are you installing the 64 bit ubuntu?
[22:37] <kristenbb> th0r: yes
[22:37] <bprompt> kristenbb:    in the Create window, is a pulldown-list there, you'd choose "root"
[22:37] <kristenbb> bprompt: but regarding the size I am to choose ?
[22:38] <tacomaster> kristenbb: depends on how you use your computer
[22:38] <bprompt> lDromedario:    anyway, try 12.04 as ActionParsnip said is LTS, and if you don't want Unity, or gnome, use another window or desktop manager then, there are several others DM and many WM
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: 15gb / ext4. 1xRAM swap. rest ext4 for /home
[22:38] <bprompt> lDromedario:    usually the "look" is handled by the window manager
[22:39] <sianhulo> is there a way to make use of the volume buttons of the samsung galaxy s3 headset?
[22:39] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: ok.
[22:39] <bprompt> kristenbb:    is really up to you, you can use most of the hdd, or some amount, it just have to be >= 4gbs
[22:39] <kristenbb> there are a few options: type for the new partition (primary, logical), location for the new partition (beginning of this space, end of this space), use as: (drop down menu, now selected: ext4, mount point: /
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> sianhulo: if you run xev in terminal, do the buttons make events when you press them?
[22:39] <sebuba> Hello, anyone see this error on ubuntu ? "The used command is not allowed with this MySQL version"
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: if you are only installing ubuntu, make them all primary
[22:40] <sianhulo> ActionParsnip, no
[22:40] <az4z3l> sebuba: what are you doing to cause that error?
[22:41] <bprompt> kristenbb:     "primary", mount point "/" root, type "ext4"
[22:41] <kristenbb> so I will first choose ext4, /, primary, beginning, and 15GB.
[22:41] <kristenbb> then for the second partition, I will choose ext4, /home, primary, beginning, and the rest available.
[22:41] <kristenbb> and i'll actually choose no swap since I have 16GB of ram and probably don't need it.
[22:41] <kristenbb> does that sound good ?
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> sianhulo: is it the usual 3.5mm audio jack?
[22:42] <bprompt> kristenbb:    not ... sure if you'd be able to bypass the swap, you should, can't recall if the installer allows no swap though
[22:42] <sianhulo> ActionParsnip, yeah, it is
[22:42] <kristenbb> bprompt: then I'll set swap in the 30GB I have available in the sda.
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> sianhulo: ive not seen those things work outside if the s3 itself as they are made for that phone etc
[22:43] <kristenbb> bprompt: may I hit next now ?
[22:43] <bprompt> kristenbb:  30gbs?   my swap is just 1gb, hehe
[22:43] <daftykins> kristenbb: no need for anything after the first partition to be primary
[22:43] <daftykins> i prefer to separate /boot also, but that might be overkill
[22:43] <bprompt> and I barely ever use it
[22:43] <mojtaba> th0r: I used fusedav to mount webdav, but I got this error message: "PROPFIND failed: Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer" Does anybody know what should I do?
[22:43] <sianhulo> ActionParsnip, well, the audio works great connected directly on my computer and connected to the speakers
[22:43] <DocNougat> anyone here that can help me with an ubuntu proble?
[22:43] <DocNougat> problem*
[22:43] <daftykins>  /boot, /, swap and /home (but yeah no swap as you said)
[22:43] <bprompt> kristenbb:    do you have a "/" and "swap"?
[22:44] <th0r> mojtaba: no experience with webdav at all, sorry
[22:44] <seronis> !ask | DocNougat
[22:44] <sebuba> az4z3l, a script php + load a file
[22:44] <kristenbb> daftykins: but it won't make it fail, will it ? I mean i'm sure you guys all have installed ubuntu 100 times, so you all have different opinions. My question is just, will the choice I have made be ok to run ubuntu, or will I get the same grub error I had beffore ?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> sianhulo: yes because the connectors for audio in the standard location
[22:44] <cn9hu3> !patience
[22:44] <kristenbb> bprompt: yes I have / and swap now.
[22:45] <bprompt> kristenbb:    ok, then next
[22:45] <kristenbb> bprompt: there's one last question
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> sianhulo: you would need to find or write drivers to translate the signals to xorg inputs
[22:45] <kristenbb> bprompt: in this very same step, there's also a drop box, and the question is: "device for boot loader installation"
[22:46] <kristenbb> I can choose /dev/sda, /dev/sda1,2,3, /dev/sdb,/dev/sdb1,2
[22:46] <sianhulo> ActionParsnip, I made a quick seacrh and didn't find anything, unless these are generic with something else I don't think I will be able to
[22:46] <daftykins> kristenbb: i've not seen the reason for your grub error nor the error itself but it sounds fine yeah
[22:46] <kristenbb> which one should I choose ?
[22:46] <bprompt> kristenbb:    see, we don't know what the "auto" process did, or what created, what was detected, what was skipped, so, but from the error, sounds like you were dealing with an old copy of Grub from some older installation, with older-nonexistent paths
[22:46] <kristenbb> bprompt: so I think this is an important decision here
[22:46] <DocNougat> When I try to load ubuntu on my computer the live cd appears to boot but the screen is screwed up. it looks like the pixels on every line are gigantic and severely misaligned to a totally unusable degree. I didn't have this issue in Linux Mint and I haven't been able to find much through google.
[22:46] <bprompt> kristenbb:    device for boot loader, boot loader is grub, so the device will be /dev/sdb
[22:47] <kristenbb> bprompt: I can choose amongst 6 possibilities.
[22:47] <kristenbb> I mean 7
[22:47] <az4z3l> sebuba: It is likely just what it sounds like: you are trying to do a command that is not in your version of MySQL. Updating MySQL to the latest version (5.6) may fix this. Or, it is possible that you are using a now deprecated command.
[22:47] <kristenbb> so I choose /dev/sdb ?
[22:47] <bprompt> kristenbb:  yes
[22:47] <kristenbb> so...
[22:48] <kristenbb> I hit next, I am presented with a warning, and the option to 'go back' or 'continue'
[22:48] <kristenbb> the title of this window is: go back to the menu and correct this problem.
[22:48] <bprompt> kristenbb:  warning?
[22:48] <kristenbb> the title of this window is: go back to the menu and correct this problem?
[22:48] <bprompt> hehe
[22:48] <kristenbb> the content is: (and it's pretty verbose)
[22:48] <bprompt> correct what though?
[22:49] <daftykins> probably world peace
[22:49] <mojtaba> Pricey: I used fusedav to mount webdav, but I got this error message: "PROPFIND failed: Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer" Does anybody know what should I do?
[22:49] <daftykins> go back and correct world peace
[22:50] <kristenbb> wait let me write, it's quite long ::)
[22:50]  * daftykins posts kristenbb a camera to take pics
[22:50] <daftykins> saving ones typing wrist
[22:50] <kristenbb> the partition table format in use on your disks normally requires you to create a separate partition for boot loader code. this partition should be marked for use as an 'EFI boot partition' and should be at least 35MB in size. Note that this is not the same partition as a partition mounted on /boot. If you do not go back to the partitioning menu and correct this error, boot loader installation may fail later, although it may still be possible to i
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> DocNougat, Have you tried nomodeset option in the f6 menu at the first menu on the cd?
[22:51] <kristenbb> so... should I 'go back' or 'continue' ?
[22:52] <DocNougat> wilee-nilee, I tried that, I had to do the same on Mint to get it to work, it didn't help for ubuntu
[22:52] <daftykins> kristenbb: ah, sounds like your system booted Ubuntu in EFI mode. is this a modern laptop?
[22:52] <seronis> bprompt: is there a reason you suggested sdb over sda?  grub should just be on the same drive as '/' right ?  (i dont know which its on in this case)
[22:52] <kristenbb> daftykins: yes I guess
[22:53] <bprompt> seronis:    these are 2 different fixed disks
[22:53] <kristenbb> seronis: yes in my case sdb is the drive where the system is supposed to be installed
[22:53] <daftykins> kristenbb: sounds like you've got to nuke all the partitions and follow its' advice then - assuming you're sure you want to EFI install
[22:54] <daftykins> brainwash: sorry for the toe stepping, i shall stop if you're helping already
[22:54] <daftykins> oops bprompt ^^
[22:54] <daftykins> brainwash: sorry
[22:54] <brainwash> daftykins: :P
[22:54] <kristenbb> daftykins: i have no idea what you just said, i don't know what efi means. I think i've seen it ever since I tried to install it with full disk encryption. I'd like to remove efi now.
[22:55] <UltimaKR> Hi I am having a problem with my newly installed Lubuntu.  When I start the Chromium Web Browser and open a page, either immediately, after a few seconds, or upon opening a subsequent page, I will get one of two error messages: "He's dead, Jim!" or "Aw, snap!"  What is causing this problem?
[22:56] <bprompt> kristenbb:    do you have any other OSes around, in say "sda"?
[22:56] <kristenbb> bprompt: no
[22:56] <mojtaba> I used fusedav to mount webdav, but I got this error message: "PROPFIND failed: Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer" Does anybody know what should I do?
[22:56] <kristenbb> bprompt: sda is just data, 3 partitions of it.
[22:56] <bprompt> kristenbb:    then nevermind the EFI bit, and continue
[22:57] <meoblast001> okay, back to the problem i had to leave during
[22:57] <bprompt> on that note, I gtg :|
[22:57] <kristenbb> sda is a disk with 3TB so it required a GPT partioning (all disks over 2TB do, I think, at least for windows). sdb is gpt too, though I don't know why, and i'd like to remove it too if possible, along with that efi thing
[22:57] <kristenbb> :'(
[22:57] <meoblast001> http://dpaste.com/1195702/ i tried apt-get check after that, and it basically gave everything after the gawk depends line
[22:58] <Ben64> kristenbb: where are you trying to install ubuntu, and do you need to keep any data
[22:59] <kristenbb> Ben64: I'm trying to install ubuntu to sdb, and all I need to keep is sda.
[22:59] <Ben64> kristenbb: what size is sdb?
[23:00] <kristenbb> Ben64: around 250GB. and sda is 3TB
[23:00] <Ben64> kristenbb: then cant you just erase everything on sdb and install there easily?
[23:02] <seronis> UltimaKR: that (i think) just means the thread in charge of that tab crashed.  memory low or plugin problem on the page you were viewing maybe ?
[23:02] <kristenbb> sorry I got disconnected, did I miss anything since I last spoke ?
[23:02] <Ben64> kristenbb: then cant you just erase everything on sdb and install there easily?
[23:02] <kristenbb> Ben64: I really don't get these gpt,mbr, efi things, but no, I think that when you remove everything, these are left there, for whatever reason
[23:02] <UltimaKR> seronis: What would you consider low memory in Lubuntu?  It's an old PC that I put this OS on in order to try and get it running again.
[23:03] <Ben64> kristenbb: i'm not sure if the ubuntu installer will let you change from gpt to mbr
[23:03] <kristenbb> Ben64: but that's what I did right now, I removed all the existing partitions and did the install as instructed by various helpers in here.
[23:03] <UltimaKR> seronis: Also, what plugins do I need for that browser that don't come in the installation?  This error occurs on just about every page I visit.
[23:04] <seronis> UltimaKR: not sure. i only used chromium long enough to get chrome-beta installed
[23:04] <w33d> hello! Can anyone tell me how to reset my WLAN controller, it is currently set as wlan7, I want it at wlan0
[23:04] <daftykins> w33d: why does the name matter?
[23:04] <w33d> it keeps dropping out as a connection via Parallels (VM)
[23:04] <w33d> USB WiFi dongle connected
[23:05] <UltimaKR> seronis: What browser do you prefer then?  And yeah the RAM is 256 MB (it is that old), but is that too low considering that this is Lubuntu, not regular ubuntu?
[23:05] <w33d> I've got from one Macbook Pro, to another, and 'moved' the VM but having issues with it just dissapearing randomly
[23:06] <Guest91157> hello
[23:06] <kristenbb> so everyone, I installed 13.04 once again as instructed in here, and guess what, I still get: "error. no such partition. grub rescue>"
[23:06] <daftykins> w33d: the interface inside the VM? perhaps the MAC keeps changing
[23:07] <Guest91157> hello dina
[23:07] <seronis> UltimaKR: i'm new on linux.  xubuntu myself for 3 weeks but I also have 8gb ram and havent had any issues.  I just had one flash crash that gave me the 'dead jim' page
[23:07] <w33d> I think that has something to do with it
[23:07] <music> is chromium going to be the new ubuntu default browser?
[23:07] <w33d> when I moved the VM files, Parallels asked me if I 'copied' or 'moved' the VM because of something to do with Mac address' but I think that related to the bridged network adapter
[23:07] <seronis> UltimaKR: the lubuntu sys requirements page implies 256 should be functional and 512 worry free. so you sound like you're in limits
[23:08] <slacko18428> utlimakr: Look into the newer slacko version of puppy linux.  Using on an old pentium 3 craptop as we speak.
[23:08] <david_> Ultimakr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[23:08] <k1l> music: its in the discussion for the next releases. but im not sure if its already the decision
[23:08] <UltimaKR> seronis: Ah I understand.  If you couldn't tell these are my first couple of days on Linux.  What method did you use to install the Flash player?  Would you recommend buying another 256 MB stick then to make it 512? (This would cost me $1.50)
[23:08] <UltimaKR> david_: Yeah I checked that before installing and that's why I picked this version of Linux.
[23:08] <w33d> weirdly once it is connected to a network is seems ok, but if I leave it idle it just dissapears completely, still showing as connected in 'devices' list of parallels, but not able to resurrect a connection or even restore 'ifconfig wlan7 up'
[23:09] <seronis> UltimaKR:  i -always- max out the ram on any system i own =-)  its the cheapest upgrade you can do
[23:09] <david_> right, is it working?
[23:09] <w33d> is there a way to clear all previous wlan7 settings back to wlan0
[23:09] <Davinci622> hello
[23:09] <UltimaKR> slacko18428: How old is that computer? Seems like a good idea.
[23:09] <daftykins> kristenbb: i'm tempted to get involved but i also wonder if letting bprompt continue when he's next back might be a better idea
[23:10] <kristenbb> daftykins: i think he's gone so please help if you think you can
[23:10] <Ben64> kristenbb: you're probably not creating the gpt partition required for booting. i'd recommend starting the livecd, getting to gparted and changing sdb to mbr then reinstall that way
[23:10] <UltimaKR> seronis: My max is most likely 1 GB, but those sticks (or a pair of 512 MBs) are more rare and therefore more expensive so if 512 MB will be enough then I can buy that extremely cheap stick of ebay lol.
[23:10] <seronis> UltimaKR: also in xubuntu there is a checkbox for  'restricted-extras' package so it was installed from the go
[23:10] <seronis> but you can install that package yourself with apt-get
[23:10] <kristenbb> ben64: okay, can you please help me to do that ?
[23:11] <seronis> err is it  'ubuntu-restricted-extras'  ?
[23:11] <Ben64> kristenbb: let me know when you've got gparted open
[23:11] <mojtaba> I used fusedav to mount webdav, but I got this error message: "PROPFIND failed: Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer" Does anybody know what should I do?
[23:11] <seronis> UltimaKR:  well 'maxed' as is convenient then =-)
[23:11] <kristenbb> ben64: it is open right now, way ahead of you :d
[23:11] <Ben64> ooh
[23:11] <UltimaKR> seronis: I see.  I think mine is more barebones than that in order to keep HDD space and system requirements to a minimum so it doesnt have that package you mentioned.
[23:12] <bean> UltimaKR, my hand compiled LinuxFromScratch (non ubuntu distro you build yourself) uses 17mb of ram with nothing else running, pretty awesome.
[23:12] <kristenbb> Ben64: so I guess I should select sdb, and what then ?
[23:12] <seronis> UltimaKR: probably.  the times i tried ubuntu/kubuntu in the past i always had to install it myself
[23:12] <Ben64> kristenbb: device -> create partition table
[23:12] <kristenbb> Ben64: ok
[23:13] <kristenbb> Ben64: then there's a drop down menu, should I select msdos?
[23:13] <Ben64> kristenbb: it should have gpt and msdos and maybe some others
[23:13] <Ben64> kristenbb: yeah msdos
[23:13] <slacko18428> dinosaurs built it from stone.  Think I have 512mb of ram.  Not a big fan of puppy generally but its kicking butt on this old system
[23:13] <kristenbb> Ben64: okay, so this will replace gpt with mbr, right ?
[23:13] <Ben64> kristenbb: yep
[23:13] <kristenbb> Ben64: what about efi ?
[23:13] <seronis> bean: does the self compiling everything really drop the resource requirements THAT much ?
[23:13] <Ben64> kristenbb: thats not something that is on a drive, its a motherboard thing
[23:14] <bean> seronis, no, but i literally have an ssh daemon, vim, ruby, and zshell.
[23:14] <UltimaKR> seronis: Did you pick the YUM, .rpm, or .tar.gz method of installing it? Not sure which is the right one to choose for my system.
[23:14] <bean> rather than a bunch of daemons
[23:14] <kristenbb> Ben64: is efi and uefi the same thing ?
[23:14] <seronis> UltimaKR: apt-get
[23:14] <seronis> UltimaKR:  no manual download
[23:14] <Ben64> kristenbb: pretty much
[23:14] <seronis> UltimaKR: and ubuntu would use  *.deb files if you are downloading from a webpage =-)
[23:15] <UltimaKR> seronis: So I can just put that in the "Run" box and it will help me?
[23:15] <seronis> UltimaKR: do you know how to open a terminal ?
[23:15] <daftykins> kristenbb: out of interest what kind of computer is this? got a make/model?
[23:15] <UltimaKR> seronis: Actually I am just reading the options Adobe gives me on this page http://get2.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
[23:15] <kristenbb> Ben64: the way the ubuntu installer talked about it, it said that efi was an option during installation, and that it allowed to set up snapshots and such, so during one of the installations I tried it. If it's a motherrboard option, why would the installer be able to temper with it ?
[23:15] <UltimaKR> seronis: Not really I am literally brand new (a few hours with this maybe?)
[23:15] <Ben64> kristenbb: you must have it on your motherboard
[23:15] <kristenbb> daftykins: it's a home made computer, I bought the pieces and assembled it together.
[23:16] <daftykins> ah ok
[23:16] <seronis> UltimaKR: in your app menu there should be something you can run labeled as a 'Terminal' or  'Console'
[23:16] <Davinci622> quit
[23:16] <seronis> its the DOS looking window
[23:16] <kristenbb> Ben64: ok, so now, I should just restart and reinstall, right ?
[23:16] <seronis> on xubuntu you can use the key shortcut  WIN+T  to launch a terminal window
[23:17] <Ben64> kristenbb: yep
[23:17] <kristenbb> Ben64: ok, let's go for the 7th installation in 5 days, and counting.
[23:17] <Ben64> kristenbb: maybe disable efi in the bios
[23:17] <seronis> kristenbb: lucky number?  (good luck)
[23:17] <Ben64> kristenbb: it can cause problems
[23:17] <seronis> UltimaKR: did you get a terminal window open ?
[23:18] <kristenbb> Ben64: that will be for the 8th ;)
[23:18] <UltimaKR> seronis: Looking for it now...not sure what app menu you are talking about.
[23:18] <mi7> oij
[23:18] <mojtaba> does anybody know how can I scroll when in ubuntu server?
[23:18] <kristenbb> Ben64: no actually it's just that I have no idea how to do that.
[23:18] <kristenbb> Ben64: so should I use manual or automatic installation ?
[23:18] <seronis> UltimaKR: not sure what app menu Lubuntu even has.  but whatever its version of the 'start menu' is
[23:18] <kingtut1> kristenbb: sure
[23:19] <kristenbb> kingtut1: come again?
[23:19] <kingtut1> Serano: okay
[23:19] <UltimaKR> seronis: Yeah I am looking in the start menu but don't see anything under any of the labels for "Terminal" or "Console"...the only thing even remotely close is "Run"
[23:19] <seronis> press     win+T
[23:19] <seronis> does that open a console window ?
[23:20] <UltimaKR> seronis: Do you mean the windows key with the microsoft symbol?
[23:20] <Ben64> kristenbb: i would just do automatic on sdb at this point, the whole drive is wiped
[23:20] <UltimaKR> seronis: If so then nothing happens.
[23:20] <kingtut1> Serano: i have problem behind keyboard
[23:20] <kristenbb> Ben64: ok.
[23:20] <kingtut1> UltimaKR: try the aint key
[23:21] <seronis> UltimaKR:  ctrl alt T
[23:21] <seronis> google tells me that works in lubuntu
[23:21] <UltimaKR> seronis: That worked...it opened something that looks like "Cmd" in Windows.
[23:21] <seronis> yup.  thats your terminal window
[23:22] <seronis> UltimaKR:  now type
[23:22] <seronis> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:22] <seronis> that will give you the standard web media codecs and flash
[23:22] <kingtut1> seronis: help
[23:23] <seronis> !ask | kingtut1
[23:23] <kristenbb> seronis: I think kingtut1 is just trolling
[23:24] <UltimaKR> seronis: It's installing something so I assume that's it. Thanks a bunch!
[23:24] <seronis> kristenbb: likely.  but in 3 weeks i've also just seen a lot of non native english speakers
[23:24] <UltimaKR> seronis: Where did you find/learn these commands?
[23:25] <seronis> UltimaKR: here and google.   3 weeks of playing around since i switched to xubuntu and about 20 times in the past 6 years of trying ubuntu randomly here and there
[23:25] <chvx> what is the diffrences of  dhcpcd vs netctl?
[23:25] <UltimaKR> seronis: Ok thanks..will be back if I inevitably get stuck again lol.
[23:25] <seronis> UltimaKR: the restricted-extras has a diff package name depending on which specific ubuntu distro you use but its easily googlable once you know one of them
[23:27] <seronis> kristenbb: or.. you are right =-)  right after i said that he pm'd  "you stupid bastard" so i guess his english is good enough and he's just a troll
[23:28] <kristenbb> seronis: when he mentioned hitting the 'aint' key, that was fairly obvious
[23:28] <mojtaba> I used fusedav to mount webdav, but I got this error message: "PROPFIND failed: Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer" Does anybody know what should I do?
[23:29] <seronis> "Why blame on malice what is perfectly explainable by stupidity and ignorance"  =-)
[23:29] <seronis> i try to give the benifit of the doubt
[23:30] <designbybeck__> I'm about to boot into a new ASUS S500CA laptop that has a 24GB SSD and a 500GB HDD.... how should I set Ubuntu 13.04 up on that?
[23:31] <i3luefire> i need to fix my grub from the live cd
[23:32] <designbybeck__> Do I make th 24GB the "/" point? and then the 500GB is the /home?
[23:33] <slaptman> hello does anyone know if there is a way to install cheat engine (used for flashgames:Nothing illegal)
[23:33] <kristenbb> Ben64: so... after the 7th install
[23:33] <kristenbb> I get, guess what
[23:34] <kristenbb> error: no such partition. grub rescue>
[23:34] <daftykins> kristenbb: are you installing beside Windows 7 or some such?
[23:34] <kristenbb> daftykins: no, just ubuntu
[23:35] <daftykins> kristenbb: i'd check your BIOS for options to enable legacy boot and disable EFI - what brand motherboard did you get? you could just boot from the smaller drive and have the 3TB as storage alone
[23:35] <daftykins> no need for EFI that way
[23:36] <kristenbb> daftykins: how to do that ?
[23:37] <daftykins> kristenbb: are you familiar with entering the BIOS?
[23:37] <kristenbb> not much
[23:37] <Noskcaj> i'm trying to install testdrive from source, what do i do?
[23:37] <poopdick> Hello, fellow users.
[23:38] <kristenbb> I'm there though, I just don't know what to look for
[23:38] <daftykins> kristenbb: ah, probably under Boot
[23:39] <daftykins> kristenbb: y'got the make and model of motherboard to hand? i expect it will have one of those fancy modern EFI ones that you can use the mouse in
[23:40] <kristenbb> yes i can use the mouse
[23:40] <kristenbb> but it doesn't help to know where to click on
[23:40] <Ben64> kristenbb: are you sure you're booting from sdb
[23:40] <kristenbb> Ben64: yes i'm sure, I can hit F8 and choose which device to boot from.
[23:40] <Ben64> did you install grub to sdb
[23:41] <seronis> slacker_nl:  full 'cheat engine' features is hard to do with the way linux handles security.  but for just flash games there are firefox plugins available
[23:41] <seronis> 'tamper' something.  should be easy to google for
[23:41] <kristenbb> ben64: well how would I know, you asked me to go with the 'auto' mode, so i wasn't asked this question, but in any case, i tried to boot from sda too, and it doesn't work either
[23:42] <Ben64> yeah i would disable efi, it seems created to make linux harder to boot
[23:43] <kristenbb> Ben64: so how to ?
[23:43] <kristenbb> there is a tab called main, ai tweaker, advanced, monitor, boot, tool
[23:43] <kristenbb> i went to 'boot'
[23:43] <kristenbb> then there are various options
[23:43] <seronis> slacker_nl: stand corrected.  guess there is a tool called 'scanmem' that you should be able to install from apt-get that is similar
[23:43] <kristenbb> one of which is pci rom priority
[23:43] <kristenbb> could this be it ?
[23:43] <daftykins> kristenbb: something legacy/EFI related
[23:44] <daftykins> is what you want
[23:44] <Ben64> seronis: he's gone and you're pinging the wrong person
[23:44]  * seronis facedesks
[23:44] <kristenbb> the dropdown list for this option is: legacy rom, efi compatible rom
[23:44] <kristenbb> legacy rom was selected
[23:45] <Ben64> thats for RAID
[23:45] <kristenbb> was this the option I was looking for, or should i be looking for something else ?
[23:45] <kristenbb> okay
[23:45] <kristenbb> so then there's 'option rom messages'
[23:45] <daftykins> something else
[23:45] <kristenbb> and there's two possibilities: keep current, or force bios
[23:46] <kristenbb> there's also setup mode
[23:46] <kristenbb> easy mode, or advanced
[23:46] <daftykins> kristenbb: i was really hoping you might've been able to answer the motherboard make+model question so i could try and look up what options it shows you online
[23:46] <daftykins> so i could better advise
[23:46] <kristenbb> daftykins: sorry
[23:46] <daftykins> do you have any idea, or?
[23:46] <kristenbb> daftykins: it's a asus deluxe something
[23:46] <kristenbb> let me check
[23:47] <daftykins> so am i right in thinking both those hard disks are blank?
[23:47] <daftykins> or at least, contain no important data?
[23:47] <seronis> one has LOTS of data and no OS
[23:47] <seronis> (she implied earlier)
[23:47] <kristenbb> daftykins: yes seronis is right
[23:48] <kristenbb> daftykins: one is 3TB, the other is meant for the system.
[23:48] <i3luefire> so doing an install of xubuntu "alongside" ubuntu server isnt going to delete anything right. it was the default selection for the installer. alongside ubuntu
[23:49] <i3luefire> sounded safe
[23:49] <daftykins> seronis: i'm sure a lot was said earlier, but i can't scroll back to read it ALL :D
[23:49] <Ben64> i3luefire: probably, but why dual boot ubuntus?
[23:49] <seronis> yup.  was just trying to save time since i saw it =-)
[23:49] <seronis> a LOT was said before you came in
[23:49] <seronis> and im not skilled enough to help
[23:50] <daftykins> kristenbb: personally, if i were you, i'd have the other disconnected and just focus on installing to one-attached disk, you could add the other later
[23:50] <kristenbb> daftykins: asus p9X79 deluxe
[23:50] <chilicuil> !man ls
[23:51] <i3luefire> Ben64, because i just need grub to work and am tired of trying to get it to work the right way so...
[23:51] <i3luefire> ill be back if it didnt work. rebooting now
[23:52] <daftykins> kristenbb: mmm asus, my fave
[23:52] <kristenbb> daftykins: I don't really have easy access to the drives right now.
[23:52] <kristenbb> daftykins: does that mean you know how to disable efi ?
[23:52] <Ben64> ?? open case, unplug drive
[23:52] <daftykins> well no, but i can look it up now
[23:52] <daftykins> yeah do as Ben64 said, or save it for another day, whatever works
[23:52] <daftykins> when installation problems happen, it's best to reduce to the simplest possible configuration
[23:53] <daftykins> especially on a custom build
[23:53] <daftykins> especially x 2 if it's not had a working OS on it at all so far
[23:53] <daftykins> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoPMjhxDO7o
[23:53] <daftykins> looks like a vid of someones
[23:54] <Ben64> "When a non-UEFI device is moved to the top of the boot device sequence, the system will boot in legacy BIOS mode instead of UEFI mode."
[23:54] <kristenbb> Ben64: i'm a girl I don't like to go into these wire things, I stop at the software level, I think i've complied to pretty much everything else you asked
[23:54] <Ben64> sounds like the problem is that sda is at the top and is gpt so the system tries to do uefi
[23:54] <Ben64> kristenbb: but you built a computer?
[23:54] <deniz> hi everyone :)
[23:55] <kristenbb> Ben64: well i was kindly asked to choose the components, but someone else made it for me, and he's not here right now, so i wouldn't want to mess what he's done.
[23:56] <daftykins> kristenbb: fair enough. you see on the 'Boot' page it has your two disks listed at the bottom?
[23:56] <deniz> somebody can help me? how can i solved nvidia optimus technologie driver install to ubuntu?
[23:56] <daftykins> kristenbb: beneath 'Boot Override'
[23:56] <designbybeck__> I had to turn off secure boot, But now I am at the LiveBoot desktop... I have 5!! Disk /devices showing: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=51920
[23:56] <kristenbb> kristenbb: there is a total of 5 items beneath boot override
[23:56] <daftykins> Ben64: where'd you get that statement? Asus manual?
[23:57] <kristenbb> daftykins: ^
[23:57] <Ben64> daftykins: yep
[23:57] <daftykins> kristenbb: 2 HDDs, DVD drive, more...?
[23:57] <kristenbb> daftykins: one is 'windows boot manager', I have no idea what this is
[23:57] <daftykins> sounds like Windows is/was installed on one of those hard disks
[23:57] <daftykins> is that correct?
[23:57] <kristenbb> daftykins: the second is my dvd drive, listed as P3: <dvd drive name>
[23:58] <kristenbb> the third is my sda
[23:58] <kristenbb> the fourth is my sdb
[23:58] <designbybeck__> screenshot of Gparted and the 24GB SDD: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=51921
[23:58] <kristenbb> and the fifth is yet my dvd drive (though I have only one), listed as UEFI: <dvd drive name>
[23:59] <kristenbb> daftykins: yes at some point windows was installed, but a long time ago
[23:59] <designbybeck__> Is it safe just to format all those drives, the 24GB SDD and the 500GB and start the Ubuntu install?.... I've never worked with  a setup like this before
[23:59] <daftykins> kristenbb: yeah, two listings - one for legacy boot, one for EFI boot
[23:59] <kristenbb> daftykins: so what am I to do with this listing ?
[23:59] <daftykins> kristenbb: which of sda and sdb are which size drives? and can you remind me again which of these has data and which ubuntu and GRUB have been installed to?