[00:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Mess up fstab and permanently cause damage.
[00:00] <seronis> i've used nano before =-) no risk of me fubaring my fstab
[00:00] <SonikkuAmerica> dez: It could be.
[00:00] <seronis> (disclaimer: last time i used nano was 15 years ago)
[00:00] <amanda_> i'll be careful to only type what you tell me
[00:01] <SonikkuAmerica> amanda_: Now that you're at the bottom, type the IP address of the target, followed immediately by a colon and immediately after that the path to the folder you want to mount.
[00:02] <amanda_> ok
[00:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Hit TAB twice, then type in the path to where you want to see it on your file system.
[00:04] <amanda_> k
[00:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Hit TAB twice, then type in exactly this:     nfs
[00:05] <amanda_> k
[00:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Hit TAB twice, then enter the digit 0, then repeat. (Just once.)
[00:06] <SonikkuAmerica> So a sample line looks like:
[00:06] <SonikkuAmerica> 192.168.1.1:/home/sonikkuamerica/       /mnt         nfs          0           0
[00:08] <dez> test
[00:09] <amanda_> ok i got it right
[00:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Now hit Ctrl+X, then Y, then hit ENTER until you see a command line.
[00:10] <amanda_> done
[00:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Now reboot, login and see if the folder is there.
[00:12] <amanda_> ok cool thx
[00:12] <SonikkuAmerica> amanda_: If it's not, tell us... we might've missed something.
[00:12] <amanda_> i did it with out him lol he's gonna be like wtf?
[00:12] <amanda_> lol
[00:13] <amanda_> ill brb
[00:13] <dez> nice work taking the initiative!
[00:13] <dez> ha, timing.
[00:14] <dez> guys any tohughts on the graphics driver thing? worth just updating to 13.04 or might there be a better drive choice to try?
[00:15] <SonikkuAmerica> dez: What are you using right now? (I wasn't looking if you answered)
[00:15] <dez> using nvidia inary xorg driver, kernel module an vdpau library from nvidia-current
[00:16] <SonikkuAmerica> dez: So nvidia-current then.
[00:16] <dez> yup
[00:17] <dez> sorry, i wrote that firs but didnt repaste it
[00:17] <dez> wanna keep you on your toes?
[00:17] <dez> heh
[00:17] <amanda_> nope not there anymore
[00:17] <SonikkuAmerica> The folder?
[00:18] <amanda_> it's 2 hd's and was under devices before i rebooted
[00:20] <SonikkuAmerica> And it's not there anymore...?
[00:20] <amanda_> nope
[00:22] <SonikkuAmerica> You might be able to get away with dumping that huge [ sudo mount -t ... ] command into a startup application.
[00:23] <amanda_> ok cus i just ran that mount command you told me in term and it works
[00:26] <SonikkuAmerica> That giant mount command you can go to Settings Manager > Session and Startup > Application Autostart and type it in the Command field. Give it a name and description, hit OK, reboot, log in and you're golden.
[00:28] <amanda_> and we try again brb
[00:31] <dez> guys, apologies for bumping, any ideas about the video driver or do you think that's a write off?
[00:32] <amanda_> didnt work either
[00:34] <amanda_> is it cuz it goes to /tmp/ folder?
[00:38] <amanda_> ???
[01:11] <sketch_> hello everyone... how would you get nfs files to show up auto mount?
[01:14] <sketch_> my friend toast got his pc set up as a host and me and my girl amanda can access it but it would be a pain to have to do it in the terminal every boot
[01:14] <hipster4u> is there no alternate install iso for 13.04? can't find it on the download page
[01:15] <hipster4u> or will it be available at a later time maybe?
[01:19] <bsk> hipster4u: alternate CDs were dropped from Ubuntu 12.10
[01:20] <hipster4u> oh ok. too bad
[01:21] <hipster4u> also I just read support period for non LTS releases is now only 9 months
[01:22] <hipster4u> that kind of sucks
[01:22] <hipster4u> maybe I will stick with 12.04
[01:23] <bsk> it's a good choice
[01:23] <surfdaemon> or you could also upgrade later, right?
[01:24] <hipster4u> upgrading for me means a fresh install which is a bit of a hassle. and if I use the auto upgrader I would attribute everything that doesn't work exactly as expected to that from there on so I just can't do that
[01:29] <hipster4u> wow even 12.10 has longer support than 13.04
[01:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeo
[01:32] <SonikkuAmerica> *Yep
[02:25] <dez> hi, anyone about?
[03:01] <chaitime> hello
[03:01] <chaitime> how do I get a wifi utility to scan for networks?
[03:01] <chaitime> I dont see any tool for this
[03:01] <chaitime> I did ifconfig and wlan0 is listed
[03:02] <chaitime> so at least I guess xubuntu knows I do have wifi
[03:03] <holstein> chaitime: there should be a network icon in the tray in the panel.. just use it to locate wifi access points
[03:03] <chaitime> holstein: yup I have that networki manager
[03:03] <chaitime> but nothing is listed
[03:03] <chaitime> I have to add it manually
[03:03] <chaitime> it seems...
[03:03] <chaitime> why is that?
[03:04] <chaitime> under network connections, its not listed
[03:04] <holstein> chaitime: several things.. your hardware is not supported.. your hardware is able to be supported, but not made so by installing drivers or modules.. the wifi card is off in the bios or hardware switch
[03:05] <chaitime> if wlan0 is listed in ifconfig, that is a good sign though right?
[03:05] <holstein> chaitime: i "good" sign would be, you are connected.. and if you are not, you are not
[03:06] <holstein> chaitime: i would run "lspci" and see what hardware i have.. i might run "lspci -vv" to see what (if any) modules are being used
[03:06] <holstein> chaitime: do you know that the access point is good?
[03:07] <chaitime> AP is def good
[03:07] <chaitime> im just wondering why xubuntu doesnt come with a wifi utility
[03:07] <holstein> chaitime: do you know the wifi hardware is good?
[03:07] <chaitime> especially if ifconfig says I have wlan0
[03:07] <holstein> chaitime: it does
[03:07] <chaitime> yep
[03:08] <holstein> chaitime: typically, you literally just click on the includd utility i have mentioned above.. it will just show the access points
[03:08] <holstein> chaitime: let us assume for a minute that it *does* include such a tool.. and its not working due to driver support
[03:08] <holstein> chaitime: what hardware do you have? when you run lspci? what is the output for the wifi chip?
[03:09] <chaitime> holstein:
[03:09] <chaitime> check this....
[03:09] <chaitime> I hit ADD, and then manully entered the info, AP name and wep key
[03:09] <chaitime> it now says "connected to ISX"
[03:09] <chaitime> the ap
[03:10] <holstein> chaitime: if i were you, i would disable WEP, as it could be the issue
[03:10] <chaitime> and now I see an arrows icon on bottom
[03:10] <chaitime> and now I see all these other networks
[03:10] <chaitime> so it works now
[03:10] <chaitime> I just dont get why xubuntu doesnt have a utility by default
[03:10] <chaitime> to scan
[03:10] <holstein> chaitime: test with no encryption, then, you can switch to WPA, as you should be using
[03:10] <holstein> chaitime: ?
[03:10] <holstein> chaitime: that *is* the utility.. and it *is* scanning
[03:10] <chaitime> oh sorry
[03:10] <holstein> chaitime: it scans, and finds wifi points
[03:10] <chaitime> fogive me on the confision
[03:10] <chaitime> it works!
[03:10] <chaitime> let me disconnect
[03:11] <chaitime> my direct line
[03:11] <chaitime> thanks holstein
[03:11] <holstein> chaitime: ok... enjoy.. but, you should *not* use WEP
[03:12] <chaitime> test
[03:12] <chaitime> cool it works
[03:16] <Unit193> holstein: Half the time I have to service network-manager restart it first.
[03:17] <holstein> Unit193: you think thats the case there? that it just got "cycled" or whatever?
[03:20] <Unit193> Haven't been able to read scollback, barely skim.
[04:38] <i_> Hi guys, where can I find information on whether or not my computer is 64bit compatible?
[04:39] <Unit193> In /proc/cpuinfo
[04:42] <i_> I'm using windows
[04:43] <bazhang> ask in ##windows
[04:43] <Unit193> WinKey+Pause/Break to bring up sysinfo, but it'll only tell you if you are running such.  Can lookup your processor info.
[05:45] <skp1> does anyone know of a way to make wobbly windows work in xubuntu 13.04?
[05:49] <skp1> nm, i got it
[09:40] <xubuntu007> Hi
[09:41] <xubuntu007> There is someone ?
[09:41] <xubuntu007> I'm alone.
[09:41] <xubuntu007> Bye,
[10:00] <koegs> no patience...
[11:45] <Starcraftmazter> hi
[11:46] <Starcraftmazter> i'd like a shell script to execute when my user logs in
[11:46] <Starcraftmazter> how can i do this
[11:51] <brainwash_> Starcraftmazter: create an autostart launcher, or are you looking for another method?
[11:54] <Starcraftmazter> i wanted to do the autostart actually but it didnt work
[11:55] <Starcraftmazter> seems like just symlinking to the script isnt adequate, have to create a whole .desktop file
[11:56] <Starcraftmazter> no...its still not working
[11:57] <Starcraftmazter> brainwash_: anything special i need to do? give the .desktop file execute permissions or something?
[11:58] <brainwash_> nah, just make sure your .desktop file is valid
[11:58] <brainwash_> and it is located in ~/.config/autostart?
[11:58] <Starcraftmazter> yeh
[12:00] <brainwash_> you didn't mention the actual content of your script yet, but it might be necessary to delay the execution (sleep x)
[12:00] <Starcraftmazter> starts a program
[12:00] <Starcraftmazter> which typically runs from the shel
[12:02] <brainwash_> the script itself is marked as executable? how does your Exec= line look like?
[12:03] <Starcraftmazter> yes, just the script location and name
[12:03] <Starcraftmazter> hell this is too much effort, ill just plug the monitor in and do it with gui
[12:04] <brainwash_> so it's calling some xrandr commands?
[12:04] <Starcraftmazter> no
[12:04] <Starcraftmazter> unamazingly it did not work
[12:05] <brainwash_> creating an autostart launcher is the way to go, not sure what might be wrong on your end
[12:06] <dez> hi, anyone here today?
[12:07] <brainwash_> Starcraftmazter: but you could also try to add it to your .profile file
[12:07] <Starcraftmazter> thats only for terminals
[12:07] <Starcraftmazter> correct me if wrong
[12:07] <brainwash_> test if the X server is running
[12:07] <Starcraftmazter> well it must be, im looking at my desktop
[12:08] <brainwash_> nah, you can test in your .profile if the X server is running and run your script
[12:08] <brainwash_> if $DISPLAY is set
[12:09] <brainwash_> otherwise the script shouldn't be run
[12:11] <Starcraftmazter> :/
[12:11] <Starcraftmazter> when does .profile get executed?
[12:11] <brainwash_> on login
[12:13] <Starcraftmazter> alright lets find out
[12:13] <brainwash_> back to the .desktop file, does it actually work if you open it by clicking?
[12:13] <brainwash_> or with exo-open in the terminal
[12:14] <Starcraftmazter> no, i dont open it by clicking on it i just run it in a terminal
[12:14] <Starcraftmazter> ie. /home/user/file.sh
[12:14] <Starcraftmazter> interesting
[12:14] <Starcraftmazter> if i put it in profile...the line executed but the script isnt running wtf
[12:15] <Starcraftmazter> maybe i will put a sleep in, for good measure
[12:16] <brainwash_> yea, i guess some debugging is needed
[12:19] <dez> anyone free to offer a moment & hopefully an idea or two? thanks in advance.
[12:20] <Starcraftmazter> brainwash_: it just runs the script but it immediately exists :/ wtf
[12:20] <Starcraftmazter> does it matter if its in a screen? i mena idk
[12:20] <knome> !ask | dez
[12:21] <knome> Starcraftmazter, please watch your language
[12:21] <dez> sorry guys. right:
[12:22] <Starcraftmazter> urgh, it says Must be connected to a terminal.
[12:23] <dez> yesterday my pc (12.10) went from fine to "really basic graphics, no internet connection in firefox, bottom panel on right instead of central & with different icons". I got help here which fixed the bottom panel & firefox worked again on restart.
[12:23] <Starcraftmazter> i think this is a question for #linux at this stage
[12:23] <dez> but main problem remains:
[12:23] <brainwash_> Starcraftmazter: so add "Terminal=false" to your .desktop file
[12:23] <brainwash_> ehm, True
[12:23] <brainwash_> :)
[12:23] <dez> BeOS looking graphics
[12:23] <dez> no option to change...anything, on the settings (e.g. different desktop resolutions)
[12:23] <dez> screen res is wider than the monitor so the top right icons (inc error logs etc) are missing.
[12:23] <dez> rebooting doesn't change anything.
[12:23] <dez> i can menually change res with  [ xrandr -s $WIDTHx$HEIGHT ]
[12:24] <dez> as per instructions last night from SonikkuAmerica
[12:24] <Starcraftmazter> brainwash_: but its no longer a desktop file :P
[12:24] <dez> was using nvidia inary xorg driver, kernel module an vdpau library from nvidia-current (proprietary, tested)
[12:24] <dez> which is 310 i believe. but have tried others with no change.
[12:25] <brainwash_> or call it with xfce4-terminal --command=/path/to/script.sh
[12:25] <dez> last night i updated to 13.04 but it didn't change anything
[12:25] <SonikkuAmerica> dez: [ do-release-upgrade ] I presume?
[12:26] <dez> i ended up just clicking the option in the GUI, but it upgraded fine, it seems.... other than not changing the driver/display problem :/
[12:27] <SonikkuAmerica> dez: Did you fall back to Nouveau?
[12:27] <dez> didn't try that, no. worth a shot?
[12:27] <dez> pic of my problem here: http://imgur.com/MW5VgEs
[12:28] <SonikkuAmerica> dez: uhh... wow. Do you have ARandR by any chance?
[12:28] <SonikkuAmerica> (If not, install it)
[12:29] <dez> um, not sure, sorry! can't check now as i'm not in front of my machine, but i'm assuming [ apt-get install ARandR ] will do the trick?
[12:29] <dez> will that hopefully/maybe fix the problem by itself, or is it an intermediary stage/solution?
[12:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, [ arandr ] anyway, but then you'll have to open it.
[12:29] <dez> ok
[12:30] <SonikkuAmerica> My guess is that the "phantom monitor" will be detected by ARandR, so one it's open, see if you can remove the "phantom monitor."
[12:31] <SonikkuAmerica> *so once it's open
[12:31] <dez> i only have one monitor on this setup, btw. i used to connect to my tv as a second monitor but not since ubuntu so i'm surprised if that's the monitor being left over, HOWEVER,
[12:31] <dez> as per the screengrab you can see there's a second "digital display"
[12:31] <Starcraftmazter> brainwash_: did the terminal thing, terminal came up and immediately disappeared on login :(
[12:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah.
[12:31] <dez> which has only blank settings
[12:32] <dez> arandr is the best way to remove this, yeah?
[12:32] <SonikkuAmerica> dez: It's the program I trust to get rid of extra monitors.
[12:32] <dez> and that might then make life simpler for the display driver? which might then simply work and display stuff as normal?
[12:32] <dez> (thanks)
[12:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah. So open up ARandR and get rid of the other monitor (I think it's an "X")
[12:35] <dez> will do.
[12:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Or rather, select the display you want to get rid of and click the pushed-in check box
[12:38] <SonikkuAmerica> (I was thinking of KDE's display manager)
[12:39] <dez> sounds simple enough. i'll give that a try this evening & cross my fingers. If that doesn't do anything, any secondary ideas off the top of your head, just in case it doesn't & i'm no further this time tomorrow? (thanks in advance!)
[12:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Ironically enough, ARandR never failed me, but if all else fails, you may need to try a reinstall (from the reinstall option on a 13.04 live image).
[12:40] <SonikkuAmerica> It should reset the X.org configuration as well as the rest of the system, but it'll also keep your personal files (i.e. your /home folder)
[12:41] <dez> boo. well at least i've finally got my backup process sorted and have /home seperately partitioned.
[12:41] <dez> Thanks a lot for all your help/ideas mate, i really appreciate it
[12:41] <SonikkuAmerica> You're welcome.
[12:41] <dez> aaaand, back to work :)
[13:16] <Starcraftmazter> when xubuntu has an improper shutdown, the grub screen sits there until an option is selected
[13:16] <Starcraftmazter> is there a way to prevent this?
[13:19] <koegs> Starcraftmazter: yes
[13:20] <Starcraftmazter> koegs: please reveal to me your ways
[13:20] <koegs> http://askubuntu.com/questions/178091/how-to-disable-grubs-menu-from-showing-up-after-failed-boot
[13:22] <Starcraftmazter> good good
[13:22] <Starcraftmazter> next up, xubuntu rarely manages to properly shut down my computer
[13:22] <Starcraftmazter> usually leaves it on
[13:49] <GridCube> i can't setup the USC to work with my proxy
[13:51] <GridCube> i modified .bashrc to have HTTP_PROXY and http_proxy and apt-get works
[13:52] <GridCube> but the aditional drivers can only be installed from the usc now, so i need that to work with the proxy
[13:53] <GridCube> oh look at that, i installed synaptic and setted up the proxy there, and now the USC works
[13:55] <koegs> GridCube: you could have set it in /etc/profile or in /etc/apt/apt.conf :)
[13:57] <GridCube> i tried the later and that didnt work either
[13:57] <GridCube> i haven seen anyone pointing to profile
[13:57] <GridCube> i find it rather sad that xubuntu doesnt have global proxy settings
[13:57] <GridCube> like from a gui
[13:57] <koegs> neither does ubuntu :(
[14:01] <TheSheep> GridCube, koegs: fortunately they both accept patches
[14:02] <koegs> i don't really care, i am good with apt.conf and firefox-settings :)
[15:18] <phisher1> hello all, I'm having problems getting an ssh:// protocol handler working with xdg-open
[15:21] <phisher1> I've made an ssh.desktop in ~/.local/share/applications/  and /usr/share/applications that point to a script that will handle ssh:// urls  .. the script works fine..  I have set an xfg-mime handler using: xdg-mime default ssh.desktop x-scheme-handler/ssh  ..  through google chrome though, which uses xdg-open and even running xdg-open manually, if I xdg-open ssh://host.name     it will open an sftp:// session in Thunar
[15:21] <SonikkuAmerica> phisher1: Have you tried Gigolo?
[15:21] <phisher1> any help greatly appreciated..
[15:22] <phisher1> I don't want a gui SFTP window.. My script opens xfce4-terminal  .. which is what I would like to happen
[15:22] <phisher1> I want to be able to click ssh:// links and have them open in a terminal window and then ssh to the host
[15:23] <phisher1> but yes, I have used Gigolo
[15:23] <SonikkuAmerica> phisher1: Is OpenSSH installed?
[15:24] <phisher1> Yes
[15:25] <SonikkuAmerica> http://askubuntu.com/questions/11805/how-to-open-ssh-usernamehostname-link <<< You'll want to modify the commands a bit but I think this is along the lines of what you're trying to do.
[15:25] <phisher1> precisely the same page I've been on.
[15:26] <phisher1> ahh, well one of them.
[15:26] <phisher1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/190895/how-to-change-what-xdg-open-does-with-ssh-userip-liniks
[15:27] <phisher1> Ah, although I am in #xubuntu, I should state that I am using Xfce, not Gnome.
[15:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Or you could set the MIME handler for SSH to go directly to xfce4-terminal
[15:27] <SonikkuAmerica> phisher1: That's why I said "You'll want to modify the commands a bit"
[15:28] <phisher1> the commands related to my situation have been modified.
[15:28] <phisher1> The problem I can see is that xdg-open is ignoring my newly specified mime type
[15:28] <phisher1> or rather, the change of application handler for the ssh mime type.
[15:30] <SonikkuAmerica> phisher1: You wouldn't need xdg-open to dump the ssh:// URL into a terminal
[15:30] <phisher1> Google chrome uses xdg-open for external protocol requests..
[15:31] <phisher1> I am trying to make ssh:// web links open a terminal and ssh to the host in the URL ..
[15:31] <SonikkuAmerica> In all reality you could just copy the URL and type [ open [CTRL+SHIFT+V] ]
[15:31] <phisher1> .. In all reality, I can just type ssh hostname
[15:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Tru dat
[15:31] <phisher1> Not my current goal.
[16:04] <phisher1> getting somewhere.. got xdg-open working with a different protocol handler..
[16:05] <phisher1> now ..just getting it to properly handle x-scheme-handler/ssh    .. whereas it will properly handle x-scheme-handler/abc   i.e.   I can  xdg-open abc://host.name   .. and it calls my script, which opens terminal and ssh's to the host
[16:38] <gatsu1000> hi all
[16:38] <gatsu1000> need a little help down there!
[16:40] <SonikkuAmerica> ... down there? XD
[16:40] <gatsu1000> yep :P
[16:40] <gatsu1000> can you help me? i don't know why the system isn't recognizing any cd-rom
[16:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Well ask up! I'm also in #ubuntu-classroom for Ubuntu OpenWeek; Mark Shuttleworth is holding a Q+A right now
[16:40] <gatsu1000> oh, good!
[16:41] <gatsu1000> still new to linux in general, so i have some problems trying to figure out how everything works
[16:41] <SonikkuAmerica> About 20 mins left in that session
[16:42] <SonikkuAmerica> gatsu1000: It's not recognizing the CD drive, or just the media you put in there?
[16:42] <gatsu1000> the drive
[16:42] <gatsu1000> i've googled something, and the result is i've no "dir" named cdrom0 or so on in media nor mnt
[16:43] <gatsu1000> and the fstab file doesn't have any line regarding the cdrom too
[16:43] <SonikkuAmerica> gatsu1000: Can you insert a disc into the drive and see if something shows up?
[16:43] <gatsu1000> i tried, nothing showed up
[16:43] <TheSheep> gatsu1000: you lost it just from googling?
[16:43] <gatsu1000> nope, i tried to find a solution with google :P
[16:44] <TheSheep> gatsu1000: did you have it before?
[16:44] <phisher1> do you know if the cdrom drive has ever worked?
[16:44] <TheSheep> gatsu1000: the cdrom, I mean, did it disappear?
[16:44] <gatsu1000> no, since the installation some days ago, never found it
[16:44] <gatsu1000> but i never had the issue to use it, so i noticed only now that it doesn't mount or found at all
[16:45] <TheSheep> gatsu1000: does lshw list it?
[16:45] <gatsu1000> i try again, but if i remember well, not
[16:45] <TheSheep> if not, then I have to ask this, don't feel offended: is it connected at all?
[16:46] <gatsu1000> yep, electrically it works
[16:46] <gatsu1000> it open and close right
[16:46] <gatsu1000> and in windows it worked correctly
[16:46] <gatsu1000> and if i remember well, bios sees it too
[16:46] <TheSheep> gatsu1000: it can also be disabled in bios
[16:47] <gatsu1000> i will check it again, but i'm quite sure it doesn't
[16:47] <phisher1> if you recently installed Ubuntu using the cdrom, and you haven't made any changes in the BIOS, then the cdrom drive is likely physically functioning
[16:47] <gatsu1000> i've installed it through usb
[16:48] <phisher1> Ah.. So, you don't know for certain if the cdrom drive is working at all then
[16:48] <gatsu1000> and haven't made changes in bios, perhaps only taking the usb as first boot
[16:48] <gatsu1000> well, just before installing the os, yes, it was working...
[16:49] <phisher1> I would insert a known working cd, then run dmesg
[16:49] <phisher1> see if anything shows up regarding the rom
[16:49] <TheSheep> phisher1: it won't, if even lshw doesn't see it
[16:50] <gatsu1000> i can post the lshw if you want
[16:50] <gatsu1000> but i can't see nothing about the cdrom
[16:51] <TheSheep> gatsu1000: yes, please, it may be not obvious, use a pastebin
[16:51] <gatsu1000> erm... how?
[16:51] <TheSheep> gatsu1000: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:51] <TheSheep> gatsu1000: paste it there, save and give us the url here
[16:52] <gatsu1000> ok
[16:53] <gatsu1000> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5691012/
[16:54] <gatsu1000> suppose that can be right
[16:55] <TheSheep> gatsu1000: Maxtor?
[16:55] <gatsu1000> nope, there are 2 hdd
[16:55] <gatsu1000> plus the cdrom
[16:56] <TheSheep> ah, so it indeed doesn't see it
[16:56] <TheSheep> gatsu1000: you can looks into 'dmesg | less' to see if there are warnings about the cdrom
[16:56] <TheSheep> gatsu1000: but I would also check the data cable (not the power one) of the cdrom, just to be sure
[16:57] <TheSheep> then again, if bios sees it, it's not the cable
[16:59] <gatsu1000> nope, cannot see any warning in dmesg
[17:00] <phisher1> is this machine dual booting?
[17:00] <phisher1> what type of cdrom is it? sata? ide? usb?
[17:02] <gatsu1000> nope, i erased windows partition
[17:02] <gatsu1000> the cd is ide, it's an lg, cd writer and dvd reader
[17:03] <phisher1> do you have any cds or dvds that boot.. just so you can test the drive, make sure it is functioning outside of Ubuntu ?
[17:04] <gatsu1000> yes, i've
[17:04] <gatsu1000> i can give it a try
[17:04] <gatsu1000> ok, going offline a sec
[17:04] <gatsu1000> coming back as soon as possible
[17:04] <phisher1> okie dokie
[17:05] <[0gb_us]> My system ended up damaged yesterday, so I reinstalled Xubuntu. Now some of the software I used to have from the Ubuntu Software Center is no longer there. For example, Puzzle Moppet. I've tried running "sudo apt-get update", but it didn't re-add Puzzle Moppet to the Ubuntu Software Center. And according to https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/puzzle-moppet/, it should still be there. Any ideas?
[17:06] <phisher1> reinstall it..
[17:07] <[0gb_us]> Drats. I just finished putting all my files back on the drive.
[17:07] <Sysi> [0gb_us]: are you browsing it from a category or using search?
[17:07] <[0gb_us]> Sysi, I've tried both.
[17:08] <[0gb_us]> I've also tried clicking the software link on that page I posted the URI of, which should have pointed directly at it.
[17:10] <TheSheep> [0gb_us]: what does 'apt-cache policy puzzle-moppet' say?
[17:10] <gatsu1000> back
[17:10] <gatsu1000> same issue... cd is detected and working fine on boot
[17:10] <gatsu1000> i used a boot cd and it asked me if i wanted to boot from it
[17:10] <gatsu1000> so, cdrom is really working
[17:10] <TheSheep> but once booted, does it see it?
[17:11] <gatsu1000> could not try it, sorry... it was the windows xp installation disc :P
[17:11] <gatsu1000> but i still suppose it's not an hardware related issue
[17:11] <gatsu1000> because the cdrom, at low level, is working fine
[17:11] <[0gb_us]> TheSheep, "N: Unable to locate package puzzle-moppet".
[17:12] <gatsu1000> any clue about that?^^
[17:14] <TheSheep> gatsu1000: I found something similar: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125686
[17:15] <TheSheep> gatsu1000: but it doesn't have to be the same
[17:15] <gatsu1000> it's not sata...
[17:15] <gatsu1000> it's ide
[17:16] <TheSheep> gatsu1000: ide is handled by the same driver as sata in recent kernels, iirc
[17:16] <gatsu1000> ah, ok
[17:17] <gatsu1000> ok, i will try to change the cable with one of the other hdd
[17:17] <gatsu1000> i will let you know if this comes to and end ;)
[17:17] <gatsu1000> thanks a lot for your help!
[19:38] <Gloamglozer> the .gconf metacity folder is missing, how do I get it back?
[19:40] <TheSheep> metacity is a gnome app
[19:40] <TheSheep> not related to xfce or xubuntu
[19:40] <TheSheep> we simply don't know
[19:40] <Gloamglozer> Fair enough
[20:43] <g0to> hi there, gents and gals
[20:43] <[0gb_us]> Hello!
[20:43] <g0to> since I upgraded to 13.04 my volume control is buggy
[20:44] <[0gb_us]> That's not good. I don't know what to do about that, I'm still on 12.04. Maybe a driver issue?
[20:44] <g0to> the lowest level I can set is 18% of the total, a bit loud when I use headphones
[20:46] <g0to> [0gb_us], I tried alsamixer from the CLI to test the weird behavior
[20:46] <Sysi> I have the same issue on 12.04, but I can lower volume with alsamixer or xfce4-mixer using "PCM Front" slider
[20:47] <Sysi> (without pulseaudio it was just Front on this soundcard)
[20:48] <g0to> Sysi, could you be more precise? I tried raising and lowering the PCM values using alsamixer, but I couldn't get rid of the issue
[20:48] <Sysi> try all of values
[20:49] <Sysi> all different bars/sliders that is
[20:49] <g0to> but the main volume is controlled by dedicated keys in my keyboard
[20:54] <Sysi> but if you lower that switch it stays lower and you can just use the main control
[20:55] <g0to> Sysi, I just installed xfce4-mixer
[20:55] <g0to> it's not the default volume control application in 13.04
[20:56] <Sysi> it's just GUI for alsamixer
[20:56] <g0to> so I'm doing the same I was doing with the CLI alsamixer :S
[20:58] <g0to> Sysi, are you sure that xfce4-mixer is exclusive for ALSA?
[20:59] <Sysi> it can change pulseaudio master volume too but not other settings for pulse
[21:02] <g0to> this isn't working as it should. I don't know how to describe it but, definitely, is not working
[21:21] <g0to> I'm gonna try asking in the Ubuntu channel. Maybe is not a Xubuntu exclusive issue
[22:28] <iamyounow> hello
[22:29] <iamyounow> I ran apt-get update and it seems to update the repo list
[22:29] <iamyounow> but how do I update all the packages I have installed?
[22:30] <iamyounow> apt-get upgrade
[22:30] <iamyounow> correct?
[22:36] <seronis> 'sudo' and yes
[22:37] <iamyounow> thanks seronis
[22:45] <sded> hi all. i was on here earlier & SonikkuAmerica was helping me with a display problem. it looked like [ arandr ] could be the solution to my problems, allowing me to delete a second 'ghost' monitor which is interfering with my display settings. But i've got it open now and can 'deactivate' the ghost, but not delete it. And it keeps coming back. Anyone know how to do it?
[22:50] <knome> sded, can you pastebin your 'xrandr' output?
[22:50] <sded> um.... do you know the command to do so?
[22:51] <sded> if it's the properties thing
[22:51] <sded> then
[22:51] <sded> #!/bin/sh
[22:51] <knome> sded, 'xrandr | pastebinit' should do it
[22:51] <sded> %(xrandr)s
[22:51] <knome> sded, then paste the url
[22:53] <sded> um, sorry knome, how do i do the straight bar? i did alt-gr [top left key] and it gave me the xrandr options list
[22:53] <knome> !pipe
[22:53] <knome> sded, altgr + <> key does it on my keyboard
[22:54] <sded> knome, haha, i don't even know what that key would be!
[22:54] <sded> talk about failing at the basics! i'm usually *quite* good with this stuff... :/
[22:54] <sded> got it!
[22:54] <sded> sorry
[22:55] <knome> okay :)
[22:55] <sded> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5691991/
[22:55] <sded> ti'm not chating from the xubuntu PC so i had to type that somewhere, will paste it once it loads in browser on this machine
[22:55] <knome> is this with the ghost monitor being enabled or disabled?
[22:56] <sded> enabled, currently.
[22:56] <sded> which is DVI3
[22:56] <knome> apparently, your screen is bigger than your resolution
[22:56] <sded> dvi-i-2 is the proper screen
[22:56] <knome> are you using the proprietary nvidia dirvers?
[22:57] <sded> the screen's spreading onto the ghost monitor
[22:57] <sded> yep, proprietary current
[22:57] <knome> have you looked at nvidia-settings?
[22:57] <sded> sonikku half-suggested trying the nouveau drivers, but he didn't suggest it (or she), just askde.
[22:57] <sded> haven't yet, am now
[22:58] <knome> i would try to fix the issue via that GUI first
[22:58] <sded> um, which GUI?
[22:58] <knome> the nvidia-settings GUI
[22:58] <sded> aha
[23:00] <sded> thing is, i'm not really sure what i'm looking for.... nothing looks overly out of place. ghost monitor isn't shown here....
[23:00] <knome> sded, xrandr doesn't really show a ghost monitor either. it just thinks the display area is larger than it should
[23:00] <knome> it's hard to explain it, but that's two different things..
[23:01] <knome> i would try to autodetect the monitors in nvidia-settings
[23:01] <knome> i can't access the GUI atm, since i'm not on a pc with an nvidia card
[23:01] <knome> so i'm not able to tell you exactly where to find that...
[23:01] <sded> well xrandr at least has the ghost listed, which is what i'm hoping to delete, based on Sonikku's.... idea
[23:02] <knome> xrandr says it's disconnected though
[23:02] <sded> in advanced: mode name: nvidia-auto-select
[23:02] <sded> i know, that's what's weird. it's defo tracking onto the ghost
[23:02] <sded> which is why i suspect deleting it completely might be useful
[23:03] <knome> do you have anything plugged to it ever?
[23:03] <sded> maybe it's a remnant from when i plugged my tv in as a second monitor once. at some point later, ubuntu went nuts and died, hence me being on xubuntu in the first place :)
[23:04] <sded> just realised the cable was sytill plugged in
[23:04] <sded> will redo xrandr
[23:05] <sded> no change, rebooting
[23:05] <sded> haha, there's me gone
[23:10] <sded> hmmmm. sexy. screen res normal. screen size normal. icons look fine. bottom shortcuts popup is correct. crash which i've seen before: /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-http
[23:10] <knome> sounds unrelated though
[23:10] <sded> i think it is
[23:10] <sded> previously was making firefox not connect to net but software updater wsa fine
[23:10] <sded> and a reboot fixed it
[23:11] <sded> not  a priority
[23:11] <sded> so that seems to have sorted it.
[23:11] <knome> so i suppose your fix it.. don't plug in cables if you want the correct resolution
[23:11] <sded> glad i didn't reinstall from live USB!
[23:11] <knome> apparently it messes up nvidia
[23:11] <sded> can't believe it was all because of a cable!!!!!!!!
[23:11] <sded> sorry ubuntu!
[23:12] <knome> lad it works now
[23:12] <knome> glad too
[23:12] <sded> thanks for your help knome. and sonikkuamerica, even though you're not here. crazy that that was what did it.
[23:12] <knome> no problem :)
[23:12] <sded> knome does british grandpa impression
[23:12] <sded> heh
[23:12] <xubuntu287> Evidently, I have lost most of my Linux prowess and have failed repeatedly trying to get my ATI card working.
[23:12] <knome> i don't currently have too much beard.. but yeah, i could when i do
[23:13] <sded> haha
[23:13] <knome> robm111, start explaining by what is wrong and let's see if we can help
[23:13] <robm111> I've followed several guides, everytime I install the ATI catalyst drivers, I get a black screen with a visible task bar at the top
[23:14] <robm111> Each time I have to CTRL-ALT-F1 into terminal and remove everything and try again
[23:14] <robm111> Let me track down the last guide I used as a reference I suppose
[23:14] <sded> ok i'm off, thanks again guys. g'night (or afternoon or morning)
[23:15] <robm111> This is probably the first one I used
[23:15] <robm111> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[23:16] <knome> robm111, is there a reason why you need the closed source drivers?
[23:16] <robm111> Not that I'm aware of. I've tried both ways however, both to the same effect
[23:16] <knome> you don't need to install catalyst if you use the open source drivers
[23:16] <robm111> Unless I'm missing something anyway. Default video driver that installs gives me a pretty bad display... glitching while scrolling in Firefox, for example
[23:17] <knome> unfortunately, i'm not too experienced with ati
[23:18] <robm111> I'll try reinstalling the open source driver again, I think I've only tried the closed-source the past two times
[23:22] <robm111> Hmm ok, when I try aticonfig --initial, I get "No supported adapters detected" after installing fglrx
[23:23] <robm111> Which, as I remember now, is why I started heading towards the closed source drivers
[23:36] <robm111> Yep, black screen again.
[23:37] <robm111> Hmmm...
[23:37] <robm111> Trying to remember the last time I messed around with the xorg.conf file
[23:38] <knome> i'm off to bed now
[23:38] <knome> good luck!
[23:38] <robm111> Thanks! :)