melkor | How does it happen. 3.8, no microphone. 3.9 microphone but no usb camera. | 01:12 |
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smb | infinity, Do you happen to be awake? | 08:15 |
apw | activation/volume_list configuration setting not defined: Checking only host tags for datavg/smarm-s32 | 08:18 |
apw | datavg/smarm-s64 is active exclusive locally | 08:18 |
apw | Locking LV grYo1SGxtnZW9nKNg12eDppfJtGHwsZecfziYaHzn4KqomE8EJcIrmMxBJRjRHgK (R) | 08:18 |
apw | smb, ^^ | 08:18 |
* smb scratches his head | 08:19 | |
ppisati | seems like i've to update my email cfg... uh... | 08:24 |
apw | ppisati, oh crap, that means i have to too | 08:44 |
ppisati | apw: if you didn't opt-out, then yes, you have too | 08:44 |
ppisati | FWIW, i took 5mins, everything seems to be ok here | 08:45 |
apw | ppisati, care to /msg me any pointers you have :) | 08:45 |
ppisati | apw: i just had to change imap server/pwd | 08:45 |
apw | ppisati, was your email moved over, your old email ? | 08:47 |
ppisati | apw: yep | 08:47 |
apw | ppisati, bugger | 08:47 |
ppisati | but i don't new emails... uhmm... | 08:56 |
ppisati | *don't get | 08:56 |
ppisati | apw: are you using offlineimap? if yes, i hit this: http://docs.offlineimap.org/en/latest/FAQ.html#what-is-the-uid-validity-problem-for-folder | 09:16 |
ppisati | apw: i'm redownloading all my emails right now | 09:17 |
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apw | ppisati, i am assuming i will not move mail email across now as a local cache anyhow | 09:17 |
ppisati | apw: i see | 09:17 |
* ppisati -> workout | 10:29 | |
apw | smb, remembered to file that bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lvm2/+bug/1183346 | 13:09 |
ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1183346 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "vgcahnge -a n removed dm mappings but they come back immediatly" [Undecided,New] | 13:09 |
smb | apw, Ah cool. Now we only need to find out whom to annoy about that whole plumbing thing | 13:11 |
apw | yeah | 13:11 |
apw | i would think slangasek would know best who knows the lvm/udev interactions best | 13:11 |
* smb suspects lvm2 as package is not right but anyway | 13:11 | |
smb | him or maybe xnox ... | 13:12 |
xnox | smb: apw: sounds like a dupe. | 13:13 |
apw | apport didn't offer me any to choose from, though i guess that might be my spelling | 13:14 |
apw | xnox, got a reference to the original | 13:14 |
xnox | a long time ago keybuk & pitti (?! or possibly someone else from kernel/security from that time) actually came up with how it should properly behave. | 13:14 |
xnox | imho - we shouldn't trigger activation on change event (which is emitted in addition to the removed event) | 13:15 |
xnox | apw: yeap, let me look it up. | 13:15 |
xnox | but I'm not certain, what would be the consequence of removing such trigger. | 13:15 |
apw | no indeed | 13:16 |
apw | xnox, but early in saucy is a perfect time to test such scarey changes | 13:16 |
smb | xnox, apw Experimenting with a precise userspace + quantal kernel it seems that back then I do only get remove events | 13:17 |
* smb wonders when and why the change event comes from | 13:18 | |
smb | apw, IIRC you said the change event is for the now free underlying /dev/sd?? | 13:18 |
xnox | apw: marked as duplicate of bug 1088081 | 13:25 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1088081 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "udev rules make it impossible to deactivate lvm volume group with vgchange -an" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1088081 | 13:25 |
apw | smb, that is correct, i believe as the sda2 is closed a change is generated telling you it is no longer locked exclusivly | 13:30 |
apw | xnox, ta | 13:30 |
apw | smb, though that begs the question what does dmsetup remove do different that stops that happening | 13:33 |
smb | Ah, interesting. That dupe bug rather seems to indicate that udev is creating the change event and not the kernel (which was not completely clear to me) | 13:33 |
smb | Yeah, good question | 13:33 |
apw | it does the same stuff looking at udev, but we get no sda2 event, so there is a subtlty | 13:35 |
apw | i bet this is a bug in the libdm in lvm2 | 13:35 |
smb | apw, One difference seems to be that lvm2 depends on libdevmapper-events (which the same source produces) while dmsetup does not | 13:44 |
apw | hmmm | 13:46 |
stgraber | hallyn: hey, are you running an up to date saucy kernel with the stock lxcbr0? | 14:04 |
hallyn | stgraber: no, not yet | 14:04 |
hallyn | will probably upgrade everything this weekend | 14:05 |
stgraber | hallyn: ok, I think the current kernel breaks dhclient | 14:05 |
hallyn | hm. i've got a canonistack instance set up, lemme try it | 14:05 |
marvin24 | rtg: 3.10 needs several patches so it compiles on arm (broken non-arch related drivers) | 14:06 |
stgraber | hallyn: not sure if you're familiar with the dhclient UDP checksum offloading issue that affected virtio, basically the kernel tries to be clever and not compute the checksum when on a virtual device | 14:06 |
stgraber | hallyn: then dhclient gets a DHCP packet without checksum and ignores it | 14:06 |
marvin24 | rtg: most of them are already published on linux-kernel ml | 14:06 |
rtg | marvin24, I imagine they'll get hoovered up sometime before Linus releases | 14:07 |
hallyn | stgraber: yeah... | 14:07 |
stgraber | hallyn: that used to be limited to virtio and libvirt has been working around it for a while by using a mangle rule, but now cjwatson just reported the same happening with veth devices (and I reproduced it here quite easily) | 14:07 |
hallyn | why the hell would veth do that? | 14:07 |
marvin24 | rtg: it seems to me that some got lost | 14:07 |
marvin24 | rtg: I'll try to trigger the relevant people ... | 14:08 |
stgraber | hallyn: my assumption being that this breaks LXC containers that runs anything earlier than quantal | 14:08 |
stgraber | hallyn: it looks like something that changed with 3.9 (just managed to reproduce this with 3.9.0-0-generic) | 14:09 |
cjwatson | 3.9 would be roughly consistent with my experience, yeah | 14:15 |
stgraber | hallyn: so I think what I'll do is upload the remaining two SRUs for this (lucid and precise) adding the needed code to dhclient to deal with the missing checksums. | 14:15 |
hallyn | stgraber: flaky internet at home, heading out, will be back in a bit. | 14:15 |
hallyn | stgraber: sounds good. | 14:15 |
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psivaa | infinity: just to let you know the regression testing for linux-ti-omap4: 3.5.0-225.36 is still going on. | 14:22 |
psivaa | i've had to re-run them a couple of times due to lab maintenance | 14:23 |
psivaa | for bug 1180204 that is | 14:23 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1180204 in Kernel SRU Workflow regression-testing "linux-ti-omap4: 3.5.0-225.36 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1180204 | 14:23 |
slangasek | apw: I thought you were the expert on lvm/udev ;) | 14:31 |
apw | slangasek, i am fingering smb (phnar) for this | 14:31 |
smb | apw, phnar? | 14:32 |
ppisati | robher_: do you know that cpu hotplug doesn't work on highbank? | 14:54 |
ppisati | robher_: i saw the support was committed together with the initial platform support in 3.2 | 14:55 |
ppisati | robher_: but it didn't work and it's still broken | 14:55 |
hallyn | stgraber: so with those SRUs done, openstack can drop the special iptables rules? | 14:59 |
ppisati | robher_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5693960/ | 14:59 |
stgraber | hallyn: as long as you don't run any guest that doesn't have the patches (like Debian) | 14:59 |
hallyn | right | 15:00 |
arges | hey guys noticed something about a patch in 3.5: | 15:41 |
arges | git tag --contains f56d0eed546c83bbc5ad3052a809077341ce28f3 | 15:41 |
arges | shows this patch is in 3.5.0-225.36 / 29.49 / 31.52 | 15:41 |
arges | but it seems to not be in 3.5.0-30.51 ? why would it have been dropped in an inbetween release? (its a linux-stable patch) | 15:42 |
arges | maybe this is a henrix question ^^^ | 15:42 |
henrix | arges: let me have a look... | 15:44 |
henrix | arges: oh, i got it. | 15:46 |
henrix | arges: we had an emergency kernel and that kernel was prepared in a branch | 15:47 |
henrix | arges: while there was another kernel prepared in master that contained that commit | 15:47 |
henrix | if you use gitk to visualise the branches its easy to understand this ;) | 15:48 |
stgraber | cjwatson: turns out porting a patch for isc-dhcp 4.2 to dhcp3 3.1 is a real pain ;) | 16:12 |
cjwatson | stgraber: heh, not surprised | 16:15 |
infinity | smb: I was awake when you pinged, but not at a computer, apparently. | 17:19 |
smb | infinity, That was the other possibility. It was just my routine of trying to push forward with the Xen updates business. If possible. | 17:21 |
infinity | smb: Has your pet Andy failed to review and sponsor your stuff? | 17:23 |
smb | infinity, I try to not neglect my favourite sponsor | 17:24 |
smb | or the other one | 17:25 |
infinity | And you refuse to say which is which, right? ;) | 17:25 |
smb | Of course. :) | 17:26 |
smb | infinity, Somehow it more or less ends up in a split of xen you and the rest apw. That may result in a slight imbalance currently | 17:28 |
smb | But then this update is a bit special so it might end up in your judgement anyway | 17:28 |
n0yd | Hi, I know this isnt ubuntu support per se. But I have already asked in two support channels, and waited quite awhile. And no one can answer me | 17:34 |
n0yd | So, my issue is this: I have installed a custom kernel and headers that I am using. It works perfect | 17:34 |
n0yd | but I would like to completely remove the default ubuntu kernels from the repos | 17:35 |
n0yd | I know how to just simply remove them via apt, but there seems to be a meta package that causes them to reinstall when I do an upgrade | 17:35 |
n0yd | I dont know which meta package it might be, or even how to find it. I figured you since a lot of you test kernels often, someone might know how to stop the default kernels from installing themselves | 17:36 |
n0yd | Its not a huge issue, I just dont like the clutter on my grub list | 17:36 |
rtg | n0yd, its gonna be something of the form linux-image-{server,generic} | 17:38 |
* rtg -> lunch | 17:39 | |
bjf | n0yd, dpkg -l | grep linux-image- | 17:39 |
n0yd | ahg ok, i never tried the generic image pkg | 17:40 |
n0yd | So that must be it | 17:40 |
n0yd | I just removed the normal image pkg and the two header packages | 17:40 |
n0yd | bjf: thank you very much for the help, gonna try it now | 17:41 |
n0yd | bjf: well, I just tested it. Works fine. Much thanks | 17:46 |
* henrix -> EOD | 18:06 | |
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* rtg -> EOD | 20:29 | |
chiluk | is there a way to make fakeroot debian/rules only rebuild what's needed to be rebuilt? | 21:10 |
chiluk | I've been using fdr binary-generic flavours=generic for development builds, but waiting 40 minutes between spins is slow! | 21:14 |
infinity | plars: *poke* | 21:36 |
plars | infinity: hi | 21:36 |
infinity | plars: How long would it take to get the regression-testing task closed out for the last three SRU kernels (ti-omap4/precise, lts-quantal/precise, lts-raring/precise)? | 21:37 |
plars | looking | 21:37 |
plars | that would be... | 21:38 |
plars | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1181023 | 21:38 |
ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1181023 in Kernel SRU Workflow "linux-lts-raring: 3.8.0-22.33~precise1 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] | 21:38 |
plars | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1181071 | 21:38 |
ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1181071 in Kernel SRU Workflow "linux-lts-quantal: 3.5.0-31.52~precise1 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] | 21:38 |
plars | and, don't see the other one, but I'm not looking in the best place, one sec | 21:38 |
infinity | And http://launchpad.net/bugs/1180358 | 21:38 |
ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1180358 in Kernel SRU Workflow regression-testing "linux-ti-omap4: 3.2.0-1432.41 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] | 21:38 |
plars | right | 21:39 |
plars | was just about to paste | 21:39 |
plars | ok | 21:39 |
plars | so on 1180358, I hit a problem, pinged bjf[afk] and jdstrand about it | 21:40 |
* infinity finds http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html is about the best place to keep track of where things are hung up. | 21:40 | |
plars | I'm not sure if I've heard back yet, still trying to deal with the chaos of mail filters today | 21:41 |
plars | will dig for that in a moment | 21:41 |
infinity | Ahh. What was the problem? | 21:41 |
plars | infinity: a few failures, looked to be timeout related stuff in qrt | 21:41 |
plars | I suspect it just didn't cope with timing properly on the panda, but wanted some confirmation from one of them | 21:41 |
plars | the other two seem to have just arrived, I'll get those kicked off right now | 21:42 |
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