[00:00] <designbybeck__> Here is the 500GB in GParted: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=51922
[00:00] <kristenbb> sure
[00:01] <kristenbb> sda is a hdd, with 3TB. It has a gpt partition table. It contains only data, divided into 3 partitions (sda1,2,3)
[00:01] <kristenbb> sdb is a ssd, with 250 GB, I would assume it has a mbr partition table now, but I'm not sure. at some point earlier today, it was gpt. this is where I'd like ubuntu to be installed.
[00:01] <kristenbb> as for grub, no idea.
[00:02] <kristenbb> probably both had a grub at some point.
[00:02] <daftykins> ok, if you press enter on the SSD choice does it just give you the grub error again?
[00:02] <kristenbb> from this listing?
[00:02] <daftykins> yep boot override bit
[00:03] <kristenbb> yes it gives the same error
[00:03] <kristenbb> error: no such partition
[00:03] <kristenbb> and a grub rescue prompt.
[00:03] <kristenbb> should I restart and go back to bios?
[00:03] <daftykins> ok, go back to the same screen as before and above the boot override, enter the 'Hard Drive BBS priorities'
[00:04] <daftykins> actually
[00:04] <kristenbb> yes?
[00:04] <daftykins> which device does it name - as 'Boot Option #1' ?
[00:05] <kristenbb> windows boot loader
[00:05] <daftykins> i'd hit enter on that to see the choices
[00:05] <daftykins> and pick the SSD
[00:05] <kristenbb> the UEFI - dvd drive, then sda, then p3 -dvd drive
[00:05] <kristenbb> then* UEFI - dvd drive, then sda, then p3 -dvd drive
[00:06] <kristenbb> the ssd is not amongst the choices.
[00:06] <kristenbb> only 4 choices are present.
[00:06] <daftykins> ah it might be that hard disk choice is under the BBS option
[00:06] <kristenbb> Well, 5 choices are present, but the last one is labeled 'disabled'
[00:06] <daftykins> if you hit escape to ignore that choice then, instead select 'Hard Drive BBS Priorities'
[00:06] <daftykins> hopefully the SSD can be selected there
[00:07] <kristenbb> yes
[00:07] <daftykins> then you can change Boot Option #1 to be the SSD
[00:07] <kristenbb> the first one is the hdd, the second is the ssd
[00:07] <kristenbb> should i switch them ?
[00:07] <daftykins> yeah
[00:07] <kristenbb> done.
[00:07] <kristenbb> restart?
[00:08] <daftykins> kristenbb: make sure you pick a save and exit option
[00:08] <kristenbb> done
[00:08] <daftykins> i'd expect you might get the same error
[00:08] <kristenbb> still the same error yes.
[00:09] <daftykins> so if we go back in to setup, but this time to the Advanced page
[00:09] <daftykins> instead of Boot
[00:09] <kristenbb> i'm there
[00:09] <daftykins> (oh at this point you'll want to know which 'P' number the 3TB HDD was on, that's its' port number)
[00:10] <daftykins> actually it should tell you where we're going
[00:10] <daftykins> so on there, there should be a page for 'SATA configuration' ?
[00:10] <kristenbb> yes there is
[00:10] <kristenbb> but regarding this P number, where am I to look for it?
[00:10] <daftykins> well after hitting enter on the SATA config.
[00:10] <kristenbb> okay, i'm there
[00:10] <daftykins> it should give you a list of SATA ports with the names of the devices connected beside them
[00:11] <daftykins> since you don't feel comfortable opening up the case, which is absolutely fine, you can disable the port temporarily in here instead
[00:11] <daftykins> sound ok?
[00:11] <kristenbb> is it normal that I don't see the ssd in there?
[00:12] <daftykins> the list should have a scroll to it
[00:12] <daftykins> so it might just be further down
[00:12] <kristenbb> there is no scroll, I think i'm seeeing it all.
[00:12] <sere> kristenbb: how old is your computer?
[00:12] <kristenbb> there are 6
[00:12] <kristenbb> sere: very recent.
[00:13] <kristenbb> sere: like less than a year.
[00:13] <sere> some old bios's dont have it but yours should :/
[00:13] <daftykins> i'd have expected the SSD to be on SATA6G_1 or _2 if those are listed
[00:14] <daftykins> but it's the 3TB HDD you'd be wanting to disable
[00:14] <silare> Stupid question: Is there a way to install GNOME 2 on 13.04? I miss the GNOME 2 interface, but MATE breaks a lot of the things I used to be able to get working with GNOME 2.
[00:14] <kristenbb> daftykins: those are listed, but they are marked as 'disabled' and above it is 'not present'
[00:14] <daftykins> interesting
[00:14] <daftykins> is the SSD a Samsung 840 series?
[00:14] <kristenbb> hmm
[00:15] <kristenbb> no
[00:15] <kristenbb> it's a patriot
[00:15] <djbengan> hi guise
[00:15] <djbengan> i need a lot of help
[00:15] <daftykins> do you know if it's a SATA '3' / 6Gbps one?
[00:15] <djbengan> lol
[00:15] <daftykins> djbengan: just ask away
[00:16] <djbengan> nr 1. My swap drive has stopped working "error in swapdisk, exiting"
[00:16] <daftykins> kristenbb: hmm i really would expect to see it listed, back on the 'Boot' page does it have a P number beside the SSD name?
[00:16] <kristenbb> daftykins: the ssd ? I guess it's a 6gbps.
[00:16] <sere> djbengan:  df -h see if your swap is mounted
[00:16] <kristenbb> daftykins: no it's a S0
[00:17] <i3luefire> Ben64, ok. im back. it still didnt work
[00:17] <djbengan> no swap there...
[00:17] <sere> djbengan: did u have one before?
[00:17] <djbengan> lol yes
[00:17] <daftykins> kristenbb: it's definitely p7x79 not p9x79? the motherboard
[00:18] <sere> djbengan: oh ok :)
[00:18] <daftykins> kristenbb1: it's definitely p7x79 not p9x79? the motherboard
[00:18] <syntroPi> djbengan, is it in fstab?
[00:18] <kristenbb1> i think i was disconnected, did i miss anything since i last spoke ?
[00:18] <sere> djbengan: check fstab
[00:18] <sere> djbengan: for some reason it seems like its not getting mounted
[00:18] <kristenbb1> daftykins: oops did I say p7? It's p9
[00:19] <daftykins> kristenbb: no problem, i was googling it, people were talking about the p7... but i couldn't find it XD
[00:19] <djbengan> swap is there
[00:19] <djbengan> and listed in fdisk
[00:19] <daftykins> kristenbb: so S0 and not Px huh? i'm gonna try and get to the bottom of this XD
[00:20] <kristenbb> yes S0
[00:20] <djbengan> (there as in there in fstab)
[00:20] <daftykins> kristenbb: ok i've worked it out i think
[00:20] <syntroPi> djbengan, have you lookeg and your dmesg kernel log for possible causes?
[00:20] <syntroPi> complaints?
[00:20] <daftykins> kristenbb: your friend hooked it up to the wrong port, really - for best performance
[00:20] <daftykins> kristenbb: and it could also be affecting the installation too
[00:20] <i3luefire> can anyone help me with this grub issue
[00:21] <sere> yea check your logs and see why its not mounted
[00:21] <kristenbb> daftykins: at this point i'd like to remind you that i had 12.04 on this drive before and it worked great
[00:21] <silare> Do GNOME 2 panel applets work with GNOME 3 Fallback Mode?
[00:22] <daftykins> kristenbb: ah right, it probably had less boot issues with the particular quirk i've identified. that SATA config page, did it list the 3TB drive?
[00:22] <djbengan> Adding 1020924k swap on /dev/sda3.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:1020924k SS
[00:22] <kristenbb> daftykins: so I'm not sure whether switching the wires around would make it work for a strange reason
[00:22] <djbengan> Bad swap entry:40000
[00:22] <djbengan> vma_ops>panic
[00:22] <daftykins> kristenbb: it'd reduce complications to my mind, but i understand your reluctance to mess with what's worked before
[00:22] <sere> djbengan: is that with swapon?
[00:23] <djbengan> Swap stopped
[00:23] <djbengan> T_T
[00:23] <kristenbb> daftykins: where's the sata list again?
[00:23] <daftykins> kristenbb: advanced -> sata configuration
[00:23] <syntroPi> djbengan, do you have the latest kernel update?
[00:23] <kristenbb> yes it does list the hdd
[00:23] <kristenbb> and the dvd drive, too
[00:23] <kristenbb> but that's it
[00:23] <kristenbb> 2 out of 6
[00:24] <daftykins> kristenbb: you can change the 3TB HDD's port to disabled on here
[00:24] <sere> djbengan: , too
[00:24] <sere> 19:23 < kristenbb> but that's it
[00:24] <djbengan> I guess so syntroPo
[00:24] <djbengan> did an update 10 mins ago
[00:24] <sere> djbengan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1175660
[00:25] <kristenbb> daftykins: wait, what?
[00:25] <kristenbb> daftykins: they all are disabled here
[00:25] <kristenbb> daftykins: all 6 of them
[00:25] <djbengan> sere, it's the same thing im experiencing!
[00:25] <daftykins> O_O
[00:26] <daftykins> kristenbb: they don't look like: http://home.comcast.net/~boogie3/ADVANCED%20SATA%20CONFIG%202.jpg ?
[00:26] <kristenbb> sere: i'm glad you have 19:23 because here i have 2am, and still not close to a solution :(
[00:27] <sere> djbengan: its seems like it doesnt affect anything... i could be wrong
[00:27] <daftykins> kristenbb: i thought i was bad at 1:27am, you in europe?
[00:27] <djbengan> well, my swap isnt mounted, so i guess it could be a bad thing.
[00:27] <sere> kristenbb: hehe oh wow :/
[00:27] <syntroPi> djbengan, maybe you could try reading that bugreport or sth like update-initramfs -u
[00:27] <kristenbb> daftykins: well yeah this is what i'm seeing, but they're all disabled, and 2 of them (SATA3G_3 and 4) have labels on them, mentioning hdd and dvd drive
[00:28] <djbengan> trying suggested upstream kernel
[00:28] <djbengan> brb
[00:28] <daftykins> kristenbb: so you hit enter on them and the other choice is enabled? :S
[00:28] <daftykins> why on earth would someone have disabled them all O_O
[00:28] <sere> kristenbb: so your trying to boot a flash i take it?
[00:28] <kristenbb> that would be the other choice, yes
[00:29] <kristenbb> sere: not even close
[00:29] <daftykins> kristenbb: alright well, earlier you mentioned you saw messages relating to EFI when you boot the ubuntu install media yeah? is it on a DVD?
[00:29] <kristenbb> daftykins: what does this enabled/disabled mean anyway? it certainly doesn't prevent these devices from being used...
[00:30] <daftykins> kristenbb: yeah seems like Linux just goes 'well you may say disabled but i say... i do what i want!'
[00:30] <daftykins> which is why pulling cables is always so much easier :(
[00:30] <sere> daftykins: the tux knows all
[00:30] <daftykins> sure does
[00:30] <Tux> :3
[00:30] <daftykins> he be probin' yr ports
[00:30] <|s-a|> modprobe -r ?
[00:31] <daftykins> nah
[00:31] <daftykins> SATA port probing
[00:31] <i3luefire> who is good with grub and intel z77 mobos?
[00:31] <daftykins> not Ubuntu apparently
[00:31] <daftykins> ;x
[00:31] <kristenbb> daftykins: one of the very first times I tried to install 13.04, around 5 days ago, I chose 'encrypt full drive'. With it came the option to use 'EFI', whatever it meant. When you click on 'encrypt full drive', this efi option comes by default.
[00:32] <kristenbb> daftykins: it mentions it's for improved snapshots or something like that.
[00:32] <daftykins> kristenbb: but that installation never worked, right?
[00:32] <kristenbb> right
[00:32] <kristenbb> but i think this efi sticked through all subsequent installations
[00:32] <daftykins> do you see anything EFI related when you boot your install disc?
[00:32] <daftykins> kristenbb: or only during installation then, choosing encryption as you say?
[00:33] <kristenbb> daftykins: no, not really. But i saw this message once when doing a manual install, i don't recall if you were already here
[00:33] <djbengan> Swap is working!
[00:33] <djbengan> Hurra!
[00:33] <sere> djbengan: gj :)
[00:33] <daftykins> kristenbb: have you been installing from DVD?
[00:33] <kristenbb> yes
[00:34] <djbengan> Moar questions:
[00:34] <daftykins> kristenbb: what i'd say from here, is boot the livecd again, nuke the SSD completely and try another install. i don't like that it doesn't even come up as sda itself though. i always want my OS drive to come up as sda when i'm installing
[00:34] <kristenbb> when i did a manual installation, it mentioned something along the lines of: warning: you should keep 30mb for efi at the beginning of the drive. proceed anyway?       and i was told to proceed
[00:35] <daftykins> kristenbb: i feel the only way to do that is to disconnect the 3TB drive whilst performing the install
[00:35] <daftykins> kristenbb: yeah it was wanting to partition the drive for an EFI installation, not a legacy one - could be a related problem, i'm not 100% sure
[00:35] <kristenbb> i think that's gonna be for another day then, but i've done similar things over and over
[00:36] <daftykins> kristenbb: sure, ok i've got a few thoughts to share first then
[00:36] <kristenbb> i don't know what changed here, so i would expect that i'd still get the same error
[00:36] <syntroPi> kristenbb, did you install it on a GPT partition?
[00:36] <kristenbb> syntroPi: yeah maybe at some point, but i think now it's a mbr, I've used gparted to make this change.
[00:36] <daftykins> kristenbb: one is, i'd boot the LiveDVD and run a partitioning tool to nuke the SSD and make it a standard MBR based drive, have the 3TB HDD physically disconnected from the system and then install to the SSD
[00:36] <djbengan> When used for a longer period of time displaying of things starts to act up, and, after 5 minutes of chopping upp images/videos, the system will become so slow i cant even go in to tty. Im on Novaue and ubuntu 13.04
[00:37] <dr_willis> other day someone instgalled to a gpt. i think it defaulted to making a fat32 partion  a / (ext4) then a swap partiotion   if i recall..
[00:37] <daftykins> kristenbb: also if i owned that system, my SSD would be connected to the onboard 6Gbps SATA ports, not the Marvell external controller which i suspect is what it's connected to right now
[00:37] <dr_willis> the fatre was like 30-60mb in size
[00:37] <dr_willis> fat32
[00:38] <daftykins> i know that windows creates 3 partitions when installed EFI style
[00:38] <daftykins> not sure if Linux has to too
[00:38] <syntroPi> kristenbb, if i were in your position i would disconnect the other drive, secure erase that ssd and google for a suitable GPT partition layout for EFI without secure boot
[00:39] <djbengan> if you ask demsg, nouveau just screms about memory traps. the intresting part is that i need to boot and reboot three times after this happening to even get into x again.
[00:39] <daftykins> kristenbb: i don't know if you agree with my ideas there but i'm pretty old hat when it comes to the hardware front, so that tends to be my thinking. there's probably no reason it wouldn't install whilst the SSD is connected to the Marvell controller, but i think it's confusing things. certainly is by having both disks attached and the SSD come up to setup as 'sdb'
[00:39] <daftykins> syntroPi: agreed, although why install EFI at all? i'd go MBR
[00:40] <syntroPi> djbengan, maybe try booting with nomodeset (my old GT240 only works that way with noveau: forced to use nvidia)
[00:40] <daftykins> and thus legacy install
[00:40] <JakeyBear> hello?
[00:40] <daftykins> hi
[00:40] <kristenbb> daftykins: well let's try all this another day then. It's been a quite few hours and it's getting late
[00:40] <syntroPi> daftykins, if its in biosmode below 2TB: MBR, EFI i would go with GPT since thats the ng tech
[00:41] <kristenbb> thank you for your helpp this farr
[00:41] <kristenbb> and to all others
[00:41] <JakeyBear> i  need help with my computer
[00:41] <javier_> hi. how do I get either clementine or rhythmbox to play m4p files?
[00:41] <kristenbb> see you
[00:41] <daftykins> kristenbb: indeed, whoever helps you next, mention the funky SATA config
[00:41] <kristenbb> ok
[00:41] <daftykins> kristenbb: good luck with it
[00:41] <kristenbb> ty
[00:41] <sere> kristenbb: see ya
[00:41] <kristenbb> bye
[00:41] <daftykins> JakeyBear: ask away with what you're having trouble with
[00:42] <daftykins> ah don't you just hate it when you can't just reach into someones house and fix their stuff :D
[00:42] <JakeyBear> I need to just completly destroy everything on my compture and start over
[00:42] <daftykins> probably safer that way though :P
[00:42] <daftykins> JakeyBear: boot a liveCD and nuke away then?
[00:42] <daftykins> JakeyBear: assuming you don't want to keep any data
[00:42] <JakeyBear> I tried didnt work
[00:42] <daftykins> what happened?
[00:43] <JakeyBear> I am using a super old computer and im trying to teach myself the basics of computer use
[00:44] <danish> hallo
[00:44] <JakeyBear> but this computer im using is a super old handme down
[00:44] <JakeyBear> i cant access anything
[00:44] <daftykins> JakeyBear: ah ok. so it has some version of ubuntu already but you want to start afresh?
[00:45] <JakeyBear> i just need a fresh computer, i dont need to save anything
[00:45] <daftykins> JakeyBear: ok. do you have a version of ubuntu on a CD or USB flash drive to boot from then?
[00:45] <daftykins> and is it the same as the one that is installed on there already?
[00:46] <JakeyBear> i downloaded different versions onto a cd and tried that it didnt work(i know very little about open source computers)
[00:46] <daftykins> what part didn't work?
[00:48] <JakeyBear> i just dont know, this computer used to have windows xp
[00:48] <JakeyBear> but my brother completly uninstalled
[00:48] <daftykins> ok
[00:48] <daftykins> are you wanting to go back to XP or just have Ubuntu on its' own?
[00:49] <GammaX-home> I have a thumb drive that the formatting apparently is messed up on it and it is giving a RO code and I can not seem to format it at all.... any thoughts?
[00:49] <JakeyBear> i have a mac and a windows 7 computer, i just want this peice of garbage so i can learn baisc coding and stuff
[00:50] <daftykins> GammaX-home: gparted nuke it?
[00:50] <GammaX-home> daftykins, no I had a program in windows format it to ext4...
[00:50] <GammaX-home> now Its ro and cant be read...
[00:51] <daftykins> JakeyBear: so if you pick what OS you want to install on it, or if you have one on CD/DVD already, then you want to discover how to boot from discs if you don't know already and install whilst wiping the entire hard disk
[00:51] <JakeyBear> (is there a way to stop these joining and timing out messages?)
[00:51] <daftykins> you can ignore joins/parts depending on what IRC client you're using
[00:52] <JakeyBear> i basically have no clue what i am doing and i just want to have a good running ubuntu computer, with all of this crap wiped off of it
[00:53] <Ben64> JakeyBear: put ubuntu on flash drive, install it, done
[00:53] <daftykins> Ben64: i best let you take over, bed time for me! :D
[00:53] <JakeyBear> cant computer is to old only accepts discs
[00:54] <Ben64> burn ubuntu on a disc, install it, done
[00:54] <DouglasK> JakeyBear, ok then, download the disc image from ubuntu.com, burn it.
[00:54] <Ben64> probably have to use a dvd, or the mini iso
[00:54] <JakeyBear> which ubuntu there is like hundreds!
[00:54] <qin> JakeyBear: under 500mb of ram?
[00:55] <Ben64> what are the specs of the computer?
[00:55] <cornchip> on  a cd any distro before 12 will fit on a cd
[00:55] <JakeyBear> dont know what that means or how i check that
[00:55] <syntroPi> JakeyBear, look at latest release here http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/
[00:55] <Ben64> does it have a model number? like HP dv8000
[00:56] <JakeyBear> where do i look for a model number?
[00:56] <Ben64> well is it made by a company or is it custom
[00:56] <syntroPi> JakeyBear, try to find out if it supports x64 mode but if its very old id guess you should go with i386 desktop
[00:57] <daftykins> syntroPi: way to start simple :D
[00:57] <JakeyBear> it is so old it still uses purple and green mouse/keyboards
[00:57] <cornchip> fake
[00:57] <JakeyBear> i dont know how to check any of my computer stats
[00:57] <i3luefire_SERVER> is the boot-repair program safe/good?
[00:57] <Ben64> JakeyBear: you'll need to look at it...
[00:58] <Ben64> i3luefire_SERVER: yep
[00:58] <JakeyBear> how...?
[00:58] <Ben64> eyes
[00:58] <JakeyBear> look where?
[00:58] <OerHeks> or go into the bios,, so the info won't roll away
[00:58] <syntroPi> JakeyBear, x64 gives you the option for more than 4GB of RAN
[00:58] <javier_> hi. I have a bunch of itunes music and am using clementine. I was wondering how to play m4p (and other itunes formats) and came across AtomicParsley. Is there an easier way to get clementine to read? I know vlc will work but I like clementines UI
[00:59] <JakeyBear> i am a complete nooblet i have no clue what your saying or how to check it
[00:59] <JakeyBear> i do know how to open terminal
[00:59] <JakeyBear> thats about it
[00:59] <Ben64> look at the front of the computer
[00:59] <Ben64> describe what you see
[01:00] <JakeyBear> disk trays and a floppy drive and a power button
[01:00] <syntroPi> JakeyBear, do you have any OS on that comp right now ?
[01:00] <Ben64> i give up
[01:01] <JakeyBear> i am using the computer and im running ubuntu
[01:02] <syntroPi> open a terminal: then type "cat /proc/cpuinfo" without the quotes and hit enter
[01:03] <JakeyBear> okay now what?
[01:03] <syntroPi> what does it say about your processor? which one is it?
[01:03] <JakeyBear> it says processor 0
[01:04] <syntroPi> "model name"
[01:05] <JakeyBear> amd atholon (tm) xp 1600+
[01:06] <JakeyBear> so...?
[01:06] <dr_willis> that low end/old of a cpu..  you may want to go with 12.04 lubuntu.. (but i  dont know what the original question was)
[01:07] <dr_willis> 32bit. ;)  unless you got loads of ram
[01:07] <JakeyBear> I do know my brother installed different RAM than what it came with
[01:07] <dr_willis> the 'free' command shows  the amount of ram
[01:08] <dr_willis> id be suprised if it had more then 4 gb of ram
[01:08] <JakeyBear> what number am i looking for?
[01:08] <dr_willis> no idea. i dont have the free output memorized
[01:09] <OerHeks> hit the first big number :-)
[01:09] <JakeyBear> it says mem total 2075904
[01:10] <syntroPi> JakeyBear, "cat /proc/meminfo" would reveal your RAM size
[01:10] <OerHeks> nice, 2 gb
[01:10] <zero> hola
[01:10] <Guest34256> como estan?
[01:10] <syntroPi> JakeyBear, i would go with 32bit 12.04 lubuntu as dr_willis suggested
[01:10] <dr_willis> !es
[01:10] <OerHeks> maybe Xubuntu ..
[01:11] <JakeyBear> okay so know what?
[01:11] <DouglasK> That, or lubuntu is quite light too.
[01:11] <dr_willis> download/burn a 12.04 lubuntu iso to cd or usb.. and boot it and insgtall it... (if you want to instgall lubuntu)
[01:12] <nas> Can someone help me figure out how to install Ubuntu on my Windows 7 laptop. Thanks
[01:12] <syntroPi> JakeyBear, well maybe even Xubuntu like this one here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/12.04/release/xubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[01:13] <javier_> dr_willis, can you help me get m4p to play in ubuntu 13.04
[01:13] <dr_willis> nas #1 thing - make backups of imporntant stuff.. and be sure you have a windows restore/recovery dvd set made.. just in case it totally goofs up
[01:13] <bazhang> !install | nas have a read
[01:13] <JakeyBear> umm i tried installing ubuntu 10 like several times and it never worked
[01:13] <dr_willis> javier_:  you mean mp4 ?
[01:13] <javier_> nope. m4p. its the itunes format
[01:14] <dr_willis> javier_:  if its drm protected - i dont think you do. I dont dddo anything with appls stuff.. so no idea on it.
[01:14] <JakeyBear> i also cant upadte anything
[01:14] <dr_willis> JakeyBear:   10.x would be going on 3+ yrs old.. 12.04 would be the latest LTS to be trying.
[01:15] <javier_> I was hoping that I could find a player that would support. I am going to double check vlc now
[01:15] <dr_willis> javier_:  check askubuntu.com perhaps
[01:15] <JakeyBear> ill try
[01:17] <javier_> no joy on vlc
[01:17] <dr_willis> if its drm protected. i would be suprised if anything on linux can pley them
[01:18] <bellasbells> itunes videos are encrypted.
[01:18] <bellasbells> itunes mp3s are not.
[01:19] <bellasbells> so its drm protected.
[01:23] <javier_> ok. so older itunes store, m4p, are drm just as you said. And there isnt currently any support. So it appears that I will have to burn them to cd or do some converting. argh
[01:23] <javier_> freaking apple
[01:23] <dr_willis> and never give apple any $$ ever again
[01:24] <javier_> no worries there. thanks. bye
[01:25] <g-maurizi> I need a little suggestion to put me on the right track @google, I use racoon & ipsec-tools for an ipsec/l2tp server solution using PSK, I know little about the various ipsec authentication methods(but I'm trying to learn), I need to know what type of ipsec/l2tp implementation  companies like strong vpn use(what security type? xauth/hybrid/etc) that allows you to use a username/password without
[01:25] <g-maurizi> a pre-shared key or certificate. Any takers? I can't find a way to connect l2tp(with PSK) with any broadcom firmware solutions. Thanks.
[01:26] <night_> good morning,every one
[01:26] <bazhang> g-maurizi, how is this related to ubuntu
[01:27] <g-maurizi> bazhang, my VPN server is an ubuntu machine? :)
[01:27] <bazhang> try ##networking g-maurizi
[01:27] <g-maurizi> thanks.
[01:37] <chintan> hello guys
[01:38] <chintan> is lilo safe form fixing mbr ?
[01:38] <chintan> grub2 is overwritten on my mbr
[01:43] <chintan> ahh anybody there ?
[01:43] <phunyguy> not exactly sure what your question is
[01:43] <phunyguy> chintan^^^
[01:45] <chintan> phunyguy : i want to remove grub. it overwritten on mbr. is lilo is helpful ?
[01:45] <phunyguy> why do you want to remove grub?
[01:46] <chintan> just want to remove ubuntu.
[01:47] <gulag2012> silly little annoyances. I  rm -r both floppy drives I never installed in media/username. I can't get rid of the icon in file manager?
[01:47] <nas> Okay, I'm wanting to use Ubuntu alongside on Windows 7, but I'm stuck on which Installation type I should use. Could one of you help me
[01:49] <khear> is there any significant advantage to getting the 64-bit version of ubuntu instead of the 32-bit one (i've got 4GB of RAM)? everything is still available as 32-bit versions, but not everything is necessarily available as 64-bit, i assume?
[01:50] <gulag2012> Go with the 64 if you have 4 gigs
[01:51] <nas> Like I have a /dev/sda 1 2 and 3, but 1 and 2 are Windows 7 uploader and Windows 7 Recovery Environment
[01:52] <nas> 3 is nothing, and
[01:52] <khear> gulag2012: shouldn't that still be pretty much ok on 32-bit? i'm just afraid there will be some extra hassle with the 64-bit version, however minimal, that i can avoid on 32-bit without any significant penalty on performance.
[01:52] <nas> It says use as Ext4 3 2, ReiserFS, btrfs, hfs, ifs, FAT16, FAT32 file, and ntfs, swap area or do not use this partition
[01:53] <gulag2012> I have a five year old amd desktop. If you have 4 gigs of ram what would be your reason for not using the 64?
[01:55] <gulag2012> What version of Ubuntu are you going to install?
[01:55] <Treaver> Hey guys
[01:55] <sawjig> khear, if you have a 64 bit processor there's no reason to go 32 bit unless you know you need to.
[01:56] <phunyguy> khear and gulag2012, 32 bits means 4 gig max ram, including video memory.  If you have 4 gigs of ram, and additional memory on your video card, I would suggest 64 bit so you don't lose usable system ram
[01:56] <Treaver> Does anyone here play Minecraft?
[01:56] <phunyguy> Treaver: is this a support question?
[01:56] <sawjig> khear, and it you knew you needed 32 bit for some reason you wouldn't be asking in here if you should install 64 bit :D
[01:56] <khear> gulag2012: i would probably still need the 32-bit compatibility libraries with some applications
[01:56] <phunyguy> khear wasy enough to accomplish in 64 bit
[01:56] <phunyguy> easy enough**
[01:56] <Treaver> Well I'm trying to get people to vote for my server? Can you go to : https://minestatus.net/76159-skycraft/vote and vote please! It takes 10 seconds!
[01:57] <Treaver> http://skycraft.cc/ is the website and I just made it.
[01:57] <phunyguy> Treaver: please do not spam this channel
[01:57] <Treaver> I want to know it it works on Ubuntu.
[01:57] <phunyguy> this is for ubuntu support ONLY
[01:57] <phunyguy> Treaver: please.  Do not.
[01:57]  * sawjig wonders if phunyguy has an @hat
[01:57] <gulag2012> Khear: I don't know your circumstances, phunyguy is right about the limitations on system ram. What is 3.5 gigs usable on the 32 bit
[01:57]  * phunyguy wonders why it matters
[01:57] <khear> sawjig: the system memory is shared with the gpu, so i guess there's no problem there
[01:58] <phunyguy> khear: would still be adviseable to go 64 bit
[01:59] <sawjig> if it's a 64 bit processor just use 64 bit.
[02:00] <Just_Me> hi guys, a quick question. how do i install printer/scanner driver?
[02:01] <khear> i guess i could give it a go. i guess i'm only wondering because i don't see an advantage to it, but i see some possible minor inconveniences. and i've always been using the 32-bit version :)
[02:01] <sawjig> khear, there used to be a time when ia32-libs and things like flash worked poorly with a lot of things out of the box but that time has long since passed.
[02:02] <az4z3l> Just_Me: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
[02:02] <khear> sawjig: glad to hear. i've just steered clear of it so far, without giving it a second thought
[02:02] <gulag2012> Khear: I'm not 100 percent sure, but I remember in windows there was no issues running 32 bit software. In fact I just came across old windows software that worked better in wine than in Windows 7. Go figure?
[02:02] <sawjig> khear, as long as you have a 64 bit processor there's little reason not to use 64 bit now.
[02:03] <khear> gulag2012: sure, but it wasn't always that seamless on the linux side. not in practise anyway
[02:03] <sawjig> x64_64 procs can run both 32 bit and 64 bit so it's just a matter of what's supported in the system.
[02:03] <phunyguy> khear: as sawjig said, that time has long since passed
[02:04] <sawjig> khear, unless you're running something weird, you'll _probably_ have no problems.
[02:04] <Dat> How can I get my Proscan LCD TV HDMI Audio to work I thought just an HDMI cable would be enough but it looks like Ubuntu doesn't even see the HDMI audio just the video
[02:04] <phunyguy> just sudo apt-get instal ia32-libs and give it a go
[02:04] <gulag2012> Okay, my last stab at linux was 4 years ago. Now everything is wonderful, I could never go back. Still so much to learn.
[02:04] <phunyguy> install***
[02:05] <phunyguy> Dat, I am fairlty certain that is a bug in pulse-audio
[02:05] <khear> gulag2012 sawjig phunyguy : ok, you've all convinced me, thanks. i guess i'll step on the dark side :)
[02:05] <gulag2012> OOps except that. I have the same hdmi issue.
[02:05] <phunyguy> I think it is fixed in the next kernel update that will come out
[02:05] <phunyguy> Dat ^^^
[02:06] <gulag2012> Khear: Go with 12.04.2
[02:06] <phunyguy> (going straight from memory)
[02:06] <sawjig> gulag2012, why are you telling him to use 12.04?
[02:06] <khear> gulag2012: that's actually what i'm currently running, but the 32-bit version. i was planning on installing the latest version
[02:06] <phunyguy> sawjig: because it is supported for another 4 years
[02:06] <Dat> phunyguy: was the install for me if not how do I fix pulse-audio
[02:07] <phunyguy> Dat, you wait for the next kernel update
[02:07] <sawjig> phunyguy, there's nothing wrong with 13.04 though.
[02:07] <Dat> phunyguy: anyway to downgrade to a kernel that works?
[02:07] <sawjig> One of the most coservative releases in a long time.
[02:07] <phunyguy> sawjig: also there is nothing wrong with 12.04.. why question it?
[02:07] <Dat> I would I need to revert back to 12.10?
[02:08] <phunyguy> Dat, that I do not know
[02:08] <gulag2012> Aside from the hdmi bug, and a few other things. 13.04 is much better than 12.10.
[02:08] <sawjig> phunyguy, why become so defensive over a question ;3
[02:08] <phunyguy> sawjig: seems to me your question was not necessary
[02:09] <phunyguy> 12.04 has it's place, just like 13.04
[02:09] <sawjig> phunyguy, ...
[02:09] <khear> gulag2012: hdmi bug? i'm using the hdmi port on my laptop to connect to the monitor, should i be worried?
[02:10] <phunyguy> khear: does the monitor have audio?
[02:10] <phunyguy> if not, you are fine.
[02:10] <khear> phunyguy: no, actually i'm using a dvi adapter
[02:10] <khear> phunyguy: ok, good
[02:11] <Dat> phunyguy: but for sure this is just a bug in pulse-audio ?
[02:11] <phunyguy> Dat, pulse/kernel related IIRC
[02:11] <phunyguy> I really am just going from memory
[02:11] <gulag2012> I just can't get sound from my hdmi. Luckily I have separate speakers. I haven't felt like messing with it. I'm sure the sound can be fixed.
[02:11] <Dat> phunyguy: gotcha
[02:12] <phunyguy> I think 3.8.0-22 will fix it
[02:12] <phunyguy> (if you are on 13.04)
[02:12] <Dat> hrmmm
[02:12] <Dat> awesome
[02:13]  * Dat tries to download to that kernel ftb
[02:13] <phunyguy> may just be able to enable the prerelease updates repo... should be there
[02:13] <Dat> Hrmm
[02:13] <Dat> phunyguy: how can I do that?
[02:13] <phunyguy> just install the kernel from it.
[02:14] <gulag2012> I just checked I have 3.8.0-22
[02:14] <phunyguy> Dat, if you want to go that route, it is in software sources (type it in the dash)
[02:14] <phunyguy> :-/
[02:14] <phunyguy> I have -21 and I am updated
[02:15] <Dat> phunyguy: currently I am on 3.8.0-21-generic
[02:15] <schultza> im trying to get audio working on my tv card in ubuntu. the audio card is reporting audio on the audio in, but i cant get it redirected to audio out
[02:20] <Dat> phunyguy: installing pre-released stuff could that house my desktop?
[02:20] <phunyguy> Dat, sorry, cannot promise that it won't
[02:21] <Dat> Is there a good chance that it will? so far it wants to update cups etc
[02:21] <phunyguy> use at your own risk.  I was suggesting if you want to go that route, enable the repo, and install JUST the kernel update, then disable it again.
[02:21] <Dat> ahh
[02:21] <phunyguy> I also don't know if the kernel is in there yet
[02:21] <Kion> is the startup disk creator working?
[02:21] <gulag2012> Have a restore disk burned and ready. I loathe the boot loader
[02:21] <Kion> for 13.04?
[02:21] <DrFoo> every key I type in x chat is making a sound it never did that before
[02:22] <DrFoo> help!
[02:22] <Kion> DrFoo: for me xchat is mute!! and would like to fix it jaja
[02:25] <Just_Me> @az4z31 it didnt work. the printer works great but the scanner still doesnt work. im using canon MG2170 printer/scanner
[02:27] <gulag2012> Just_Me. I have a canon too, no dice on the scanner it's canon!
[02:27] <az4z3l> Just_Me: Unfortunately, I have very limited experience with debugging printers on Ubuntu. I got lucky apparently and when I plug into my roommate's printer it just works. I fear I am of no help to you.
[02:28] <Just_Me> @az4z31 oh well thanks anyway. i guess now the only way around this is to "install Windows" what a bum :(
[02:28] <gulag2012> Just_Me: Do you have the usb option on the front of the printer/scanner? I ended up doing that. In the future I will make sure it's linux compatible
[02:29] <Just_Me> no
[02:29] <Just_Me> @gulag2012 good to hear that gulag :)
[02:29] <Dat> okay time to try out .22
[02:31] <gulag2012> The printer part works fine. Did you try to see if the free scanner software in "Software Center" would recognize you printer?
[02:31] <Just_Me> @gulag2012 i'll try that.
[02:33] <Dat> phunyguy: wow .22 did it HDMI audio is working
[02:33] <Dat> :)
[02:33] <Just_Me> @gulag2012 ive isntalled xsane and it didnt work. no device found message.
[02:33] <phunyguy> you're welcome.  :)
[02:34] <Dat> phunyguy: might be wise to disable the pre-release repo and wait for the stable now?
[02:34] <phunyguy> Dat, yes of course.
[02:34] <gulag2012> Just_Me: Sorry to hear that, I think that is the one I tried too. Your best bet is to google the forums for your issue. I know mine came back with unsupported Cannon scanner.
[02:36] <Just_Me> ive scoured ubuntu forum but found nothing that can fix my scanner problem. its ok, i'll just install "windows os"
[02:36] <Just_Me> @gulag2012 ive scoured ubuntu forum but found nothing that can fix my scanner problem. its ok, i'll just install "windows os"
[02:37] <gulag2012> Oh goodness no!
[02:37] <gulag2012> You are running it in a vm right?
[02:38] <gulag2012> Think of it this way, you can get a new all in one for $100, or the price of the two ink changes. That or a lifetime of malware
[02:38] <Just_Me> @gulag2012 yes on VM
[02:39] <gulag2012> Panic has reset. Okay
[02:39] <Just_Me> @gulag2012 :)
[02:40] <dr_willis> canon  is good at having unsupported stuff.. ;(
[02:40] <gulag2012> I got a blue screen trying to install windows 7 last week on Virtualbox
[02:40] <Just_Me> @gulag2012 ive canon cd that comes with the printer do you think it will work if i install it on wine?
[02:41] <gulag2012> Hmm? I'm not sure if it has to be tied in. Programs would still need a way to talk to the hardware.  Anyone?
[02:41] <tack_> im gonna say no on the printer cd and wine, ive tryed similar things for scanners and it didnt turn out well
[02:41] <thinkclay> How would one go about mapping a normal domain or subdomain to a custom port on a server (i want demo.mydomain.com to map to demo.mydomain.com:8888)
[02:42] <bellasbells> Just_Me, nope
[02:42] <bellasbells> has to be native
[02:42] <Just_Me> ok
[02:42] <bellasbells> thinkclay, you mean you cant open port 80?
[02:42] <bellasbells> because with DNS, you can only map to an ip, not a port
[02:42] <tack_> there is an option if you really need a way to use it by creatina a virtual machine with windows and then creating a print server in that vm that you ca talk too
[02:43] <thinkclay> bellasbells: well i have an apache site running on port 80 and i need to run a ruby app on a different port
[02:43] <bellasbells> thinkclay, thinkclay apache proxy
[02:43] <bellasbells> oops
[02:43] <bellasbells> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html
[02:43] <bellasbells> finger hit tab before my brain acknowledged it
[02:43] <bellasbells> :D
[02:43] <thinkclay> cool thanks bellasbells!
[02:43] <bellasbells> np
[02:53] <AndroUser> Hello all
[03:04] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to run GIMP on Ubuntu 13.04, but I just get this error: "gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: gtk_box_new".  Any tips?
[03:05] <jordan_> So this is definably a newbie question, but when I set permissions for "group members", who exactly am I setting permissions for?
[03:05] <Just_Me> hey guys i found a solution to canon scanner issue! yay! heres how i did it, download the package from here ( http://support-sg.canon-asia.com/contents/SG/EN/0100392902.html ) install and reboot, then make sure the printer/scanner is switched on, fire up the terminal and run scangearmp. voila!
[03:07] <Just_Me> @az4z31 it worked :)
[03:14] <mdkwlan>  /msg NickServ identify <password>
[03:17] <iKernel> Hi guys, uber fail when trying to load the drivers provided by the package bcmwl-kernel-source. Get a massive call trace thrown and the drivers fail to load. Running Lubuntu 13.04 on a damn near 10 year old HP Compaq NX9110 Business Notebook, wireless NIC works beautifully in Windows XP (better than most modern laptops). The laptop has 1 spare PCMCIA expansion slot so I could purchase a known good wireless card and simply get that going, but
[03:17] <iKernel>  I was wanting to use that to install an eSATA expansion card due to the very slow internal ATA interface this laptop has due to being nearly 10 years old.
[03:18] <iKernel> I am going to throw the call trace up on a pastebin site and I'm also going to throw this issue up on ubuntu's launchpad.
[03:18] <iKernel> !bcmwl-kernel-source
[03:19] <Ologn> How do you turn the resize info tooltip on for Gnome terminal for 13.04?
[03:19] <i3luefire> is it crazy to want to put xbmc on my ubuntu server?
[03:20] <i3luefire> or should i just go with the "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" ? is one more lightweight than the other?
[03:20] <mdkwlan> Lxde is lighter than xfce
[03:21] <i3luefire> what about xmbc vs xfce?
[03:21] <iKernel> i3luefire, if you have an old PC with less than 512MB of RAM, probably best you download the lubuntu alternate iso and install that
[03:21] <iKernel> That's what I'm running, just freshly installed it and it's running pretty good on this old HP
[03:21] <mdkwlan> xmbc is a media center not a DE
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> iKernel: i had few issues on 10y old compaq running ubuntu, had flash issues that i could never fix
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> *lubuntu sorry
[03:22] <mdkwlan> Flash issues?
[03:22] <iKernel> lotuspsychje, I reckon this issue is probably universal to all ubuntu distros
[03:22] <i3luefire> i have a newish computer with 8gb ram but i am running a lot of server stuff in the bg. (sab,rtorrent,sick...)
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> mdkwlan: dont matter anymore tnx mate, its running another default Os now
[03:23] <i3luefire> its a celeron tho. but an ivy bridge celeron g1610
[03:23] <mdkwlan> Ah alright. Yea i was just wondering if you installed flash via the extras or what?
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> iKernel: did you check your additional drivers section?
[03:23] <iKernel> lotuspsychje, dunno how to get to that from lubuntu 13.04
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> mdkwlan: oh, i tryed every trick in da house
[03:24] <iKernel> lotuspsychje, it's not under system tools
[03:24] <iKernel> Here you guys go: http://pastebin.com/UmWuefXN
[03:24] <mdkwlan> lotuspsychje, its under software & updates
[03:24] <mdkwlan> the "additional drivers" tab
[03:24] <i3luefire> does anyone here run xbmc on ubuntu server?
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> iKernel: see above :p
[03:25] <iKernel> I reckon I could probably resolve the issue by downloading the .tar.gz for the bcwml drivers and building them manually rather than getting the package manager to do it
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> !xmbc | i3luefire
[03:25] <mdkwlan> i3luefire, all of my servers are headless so no.
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[03:25] <mdkwlan> iKernel, but what about kernel updates in the future?
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> !xbmc
[03:26] <mdkwlan> you'll have to rebuild it each time.
[03:26] <iKernel> mdkwlan, I'll just make a script to do it
[03:26] <mdkwlan> Touche
[03:26] <i3luefire> well mine has been headless until now. but i wanted to hook it to my receiver in my server/media closet
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> iKernel: did you clean install lubuntu?
[03:27] <iKernel> lotuspsychje, yep, from alternate iso straight from a CD-RW I burnt
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> iKernel: you could try xubuntu, i had smoother experiences on the old compaq
[03:28] <iKernel> lotuspsychje, this laptop has 384MB of memory assigned to the system. I daresay xubuntu will be that little bit too beefy for me not to throw the laptop out of the window.
[03:28] <MDKwlan> lotuspsychje, xfce is light but I think lxde is better
[03:28] <iKernel> I may take your advice, though.
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> MDKwlan: well in my case xubuntu felt much lighter
[03:29] <MDKwlan> iKernel, what about using an alternative DE? such as icewm or e17?
[03:29] <yeik> i like xfce better than lubuntu
[03:29] <yeik> i had issues with my wireless even after i set it up properly
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> yeik: on wich?
[03:29] <yeik> lubuntu
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> yeik: tnx
[03:29] <iKernel> MDKwlan, I really don't see how installing a desktop environment different from Lubuntu is going to solve driver issues
[03:30] <yeik> anybody good with apt-get and packaging issues?
[03:30] <MDKwlan> Well yea ofc. I mean installing say normal ubuntu and removing unity and using either one?
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> yeik: shoot your issue mate
[03:30] <kvothetech> yeik nope
[03:30] <yeik> The following packages are only half configured, probably due to problems
[03:30] <yeik> configuring them the first time.  The configuration should be retried using
[03:30] <yeik> dpkg --configure <package> or the configure menu option in dselect:
[03:30] <yeik>  libgnutls26          GNU TLS library - runtime library
[03:30] <FloodBot1> yeik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:31] <kvothetech> yeik so dpg --configure libgnutls26
[03:31] <yeik> errors out
[03:32] <iKernel> Yeah ok what's the error.
[03:32] <yeik> libgnutls26:amd64 2.12.14-5ubuntu3.2 cannot be configured because libgnutls26:i386 is in a different version (2.12.14-5ubuntu3.3)
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> iKernel: so your wifi doesnt show properly?
[03:32] <iKernel> lotuspsychje, nope, right now I am set up on the kitchen bench with an RJ45 connecting the laptop and the router
[03:33] <kvothetech> so you installed the 32 bit version in a 64 bit system and wonder wht yoi have problems yeik
[03:33] <iKernel> lotuspsychje, the wifi works beautifully in Windows XP
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> iKernel: you might need a broadcom frimware for your driver
[03:33] <kvothetech> ikernel chipset?
[03:33] <yeik> i don't remember installing the 32 bit version, if i did it was to work with something else. but i can't remove or reinstall anything
[03:33] <MDKwlan> iKernel, did you look at the "software & updates"
[03:34] <iKernel> okay I got updates to install, I'll let them install and then see what happens
[03:34] <MDKwlan> I'm assuming that you're wireless lan card might have proprietary drivers.
[03:34] <iKernel> I may do an apt-get autoremove bcmwl-kernel-source and try reinstalling it
[03:34] <kvothetech> yeik remove the 32 bit one with dpkg then dpkg -i the 64 one
[03:34] <iKernel> MDKwlan, Broadcom has not released any proprietary drivers for my particular chipset which is a wonder considering it's like 10 years old.
[03:35] <Ologn> Figured it out...blech
[03:35] <iKernel> kvothetech, 02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4301 802.11b Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[03:35] <MDKwlan> iKernel, yea that's really weird. Do you know the make a model of the chipset?
[03:35] <yeik> so dpkg -r libgnutls26:1386?
[03:35] <MDKwlan> Oh
[03:35] <iKernel> MDKwlan, BCM4301
[03:35] <yeik> because if i try dpkg -r libgnutls26 it says it has dependencies
[03:35] <MDKwlan> Yea, sorry I just saw that after i pressed enter
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> !bc43 | iKernel
[03:36] <kvothetech> yeik thats not the package name but yes other than that
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[03:36] <iKernel> lol
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> !b43
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> ah
[03:36] <yeik> kvothetech, how do i find the package name?
[03:36] <iKernel> Cheers I'll go have a look
[03:37] <seronis> how do i find out which package the a specific screensaver is part of, and get the source for that package
[03:37] <kvothetech> try without the : 386 or with -386 if that fails
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> seronis: you looking for xscreensaver new ones?
[03:37] <MDKwlan> iKernel, perhaps this will help as well
[03:37] <MDKwlan> http://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2011/09/08/how-to-fix-broadcom-43xx/
[03:37] <yeik> dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libgnutls26:
[03:38] <kvothetech> yeik yeah itll totally fuck your ssl
[03:38] <seronis> lotuspsychje:  specifically i only want the source for boxfit, but  'sudo apt-get source boxfit' fails
[03:38] <iKernel> Ah ha
[03:38] <yeik> is there a way to force it?
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> !info boxfit
[03:38] <kvothetech> yeik just make sure you have the righr deb ready and yeah force it
[03:38] <iKernel> I've installed the wrong package,  I need b43legacy which makes good sense lol
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> seronis: never heard of that1 mate sorry
[03:38] <MDKwlan> iKernel, ah well let us know if that works :)
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> MDKwlan: nice url mate
[03:39] <seronis> its in the xscreensaver folder, but i dont want 60 different sources
[03:39] <MDKwlan> lotuspsychje, was that sarcasm or did I do something wrong?
[03:40] <iKernel> MDKwlan, will do
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> MDKwlan: i dont do sarcasm lol, i actually ment it
[03:40] <MDKwlan> lotuspsychje, oh. sorry. I assume most people on the internet are asses so yea...
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> were all helping out here :p
[03:40] <yeik> kvothetech, do you happen to know the command to force it? didn't work for me
[03:41] <MDKwlan> yeik, forcing that is going to break a ton of things.
[03:41] <yeik> MDKwlan, better suggestion?
[03:41] <MDKwlan> You'll run into a dependency hell issue
[03:41] <MDKwlan> Reformat and reinstall.
[03:41] <yeik> MDKwlan, i can do that if this breaks.
[03:42] <MDKwlan> yeik, it told you it will.lol
[03:42] <iKernel> Gonna have to wait for software updates to finish first
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> seronis: isnt it a part of xscreensaver-data-extras
[03:42] <yeik> MDKwlan, you don't have any other option than reinstalling
[03:43] <seronis> lotuspsychje: i -just- went ahead and grabbed source for plain 'xscreensaver' and inside the HACKS directory inside that package is the source for all the individual ones
[03:43] <yeik> i already reinstalled on the same model laptop. i just haven't copied everything over.
[03:43] <MDKwlan> yeik, not really. You're running a 32 bit os on a 64 bit machine. That or you don't have mutil-arch support. Either case it's really, really weird.
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> seronis: just checked xscreensaver, its inside the extras by default
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> seronis: im a phosphor fan :p
[03:44] <yeik> MDKwlan,  ok. I am willing to try it.
[03:44] <seronis> well my primary goal is i want to see how the screensavers impliment the  -window-id argument because I currently use it to render screensavers as a live wallpaper
[03:45] <seronis> and im interested in possibly making more live wallpapers for fun
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> seronis: nice idea
[03:45] <MDKwlan> Sorry seronis what are you having a problem with? Compiz?
[03:46] <seronis> MDKwlan:  no im an xfce user.  i just wanted to be able to grab the source for a single screensaver and couldnt figure out how.   problem solved though as it turns out its all or nothing
[03:46] <seronis> xscreensavers can run as livewallpaper without modification.  i was just trying to see how they handle that rendering context
[03:47] <MDKwlan> seronis, Oh. Yea when I saw the live wallpaper I assumed compiz. Good to hear you got it all squared away :)
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:47] <MDKwlan> eye-candy stuff not my strong suite lol
[03:47] <seronis> lotuspsychje: phosphor really?  just looked at it.. is it an RSS feed ?
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> seronis: a guy showed me a new screensaver i never heard of before, electricsheep
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> seronis: yes you can add rss url to it, but i always liked green on black for ubuntu :p
[03:49] <yeik> seems to be working
[03:49] <seronis> lotuspsychje:  well my desktop is now an rss viewer =-)   http://i.imgur.com/ip5XyYd.png
[03:49] <yeik> the key will be in the reboot i guess, thanks MDKwlan, kvothetech
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> seronis: wwow thats neat man! how do you do that>?
[03:50] <MDKwlan> yeik, I guess man. Best of luck.
[03:50] <seronis> let me put the script in my dropbox
[03:50] <MDKwlan> Oh wow lotuspsychje that's really cool.
[03:50] <MDKwlan> oops
[03:50] <yeik> thanks. if it doesn't work, im not out much. i'll reinstall over the partitions, copy my homedir out, and be fine.
[03:50] <MDKwlan> seronis, sorry lotuspsychje wrong person :P
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> np :p
[03:51] <seronis> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13440285/tdesk
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> seronis: doesnt live wallpaper lag your system?
[03:51] <seronis> thats the script i wrote and put in my  ~/bin
[03:51] <seronis> lotuspsychje: a lot of the screensavers using under 3% cpu
[03:52] <seronis> there are a few that use 60%,  but you just gotta try them out
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> seronis: nice1
[03:52] <MDKwlan> You guys are making me want to try this out lol.
[03:52] <seronis> anyways that script.. usage for it interprets the first argument as an already installed xscreensaver
[03:53] <seronis> so it has to exist or the script will complain.  no arguments just means to disable the last one you started
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> seronis: where you run the script
[03:54] <seronis> my  ~/bin folder is in my path so works from anywhere
[03:54] <MDKwlan> random question. For linux in general, how would i go about running a .c file? Is it just g++ -o filename?
[03:55] <seronis> i use IDE (codeblocks) and never can remember the CLI syntax
[03:55] <yokobr> hey guys... is there any support for hybrid amd graphics? i have a HD 4250 and a HD 6310 laptop
[03:55] <iKernel> Reboot required after software update, bbs
[03:55] <seronis> but you dont 'run' a .c file.  compile it (it has to have a valid main function) and run the generated binary
[03:55] <MDKwlan> crap. Yea can't tell you the last time I wrote any code lol
[03:56] <yeik> MDKwlan, gcc is c g++ is c++
[03:56] <MDKwlan> Well yea run compile blah I know
[03:56] <MDKwlan> Kk. Thanks.
[03:56] <seronis> yeik:  not quite..  gcc is the package which will use g++ as the compiler for both C and C++
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> yokobr: i hear some fixed hd audio with kernel update
[03:57] <MDKwlan> seronis, I'm a network admin not a programmer :P Still mystical stuff haha
[03:57] <yeik> seronis, close enough that it will compile properly with gcc if it doesnt for g++
[03:57] <yokobr> lotuspsychje, i said graphics... i have no problems with sound
[03:57] <seronis> yeik:  gcc will also call the linker (ar) and other things with proper syntax.  g++ only compiles
[03:58] <seronis> lotuspsychje:  so try the script ?
[03:58] <MDKwlan> Yikes guys! I didn't mean to start a war
[03:58] <seronis> war != discussion
[03:59] <seronis> =-)
[03:59] <yeik> seronis, yes. but he asked for commands, not packages
[03:59] <seronis> the gcc command is still invoked by the user to do the full compile and link
[04:00] <yeik> nod, points to gcc, but still the command to compile a .c file
[04:00] <seronis> gcc in turn passes off  your file to g++ and ar and the other toolchain apps
[04:00] <yokobr> the latest ati drivers only supports xserver 1.12 and kernel 3.4~
[04:00] <MDKwlan> Ok, so I have raw C++ code i need to compile it. I assume I'd use gcc -o file?
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> seronis: in wich format should i save the script
[04:00] <seronis> format?  its a plain text file
[04:01] <MDKwlan> plain txt
[04:01] <yeik> MDKwlan, g++ -o file for a C++ program.
[04:01] <MDKwlan> I could just download codeblocks as well
[04:01]  * yeik nods
[04:01] <yeik> codeblocker works
[04:02] <yeik> ci i am downloading updates. 59% done.
[04:02] <yeik> -ci
[04:02] <MDKwlan> g++ isn't installed? ._. damnit all lol. That was a brilliant move.
[04:03] <MDKwlan> That's weird. I thought build-essentials had g++ in it?
[04:03] <seronis> MDKwlan: it does?
[04:03] <yokobr> please :(
[04:03] <MDKwlan> Oh. I a moron. Ignore me. I dual boot arch and ubuntu
[04:03] <seronis> build-essential package is what I installed
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> seronis: xwininfo: error: No window with name "Desktop" exists!
[04:04] <MDKwlan> I'm crossing over files I downloaded on one with another
[04:04] <seronis> lotuspsychje:  favor.   run  xwininfo in a commandline on its own with no arguments
[04:04] <seronis> it will ask you to click a window to get info.. click your desktop
[04:05] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> what is the #wine channel?
[04:05] <yokobr> #winehq
[04:05] <seronis> #winehq
[04:05] <seronis> ninjad
[04:06] <arpan_> is there any one to help me for installing Indic IME keyboard on my ubuntu?
[04:07] <MDKwlan> Well there we go. All that work to see random flying txt.
[04:12] <alocer> hello shazeal
[04:13] <PadNet_201> anyone know a good weather.com-similar desktop widget?
[04:13] <seednode> PadNet_201, well, you can do it with conky
[04:14] <PadNet_201> seednode: i'll give it a shot
[04:14] <seednode> Not the easiest, if you're new to conky
[04:14] <seednode> I'd help, but about to head to sleep
[04:14] <seednode> Sorry
[04:15] <PadNet_201> seednode: im new, thx for the tip tho
[04:28] <findlay> hi
[04:28] <Strucker> Greetings. The Linux Mint 14 is based in Quantal or Precise?
[04:29] <findlay> whenever firefox or thunderbird update, they reset the spelling locale.  Extremely annoying.  Anyone know what to do about it?
[04:29] <Strucker> Somebody?
[04:30] <MDKwlan> Strucker, i think its 12.10
[04:30] <Strucker> I want to generate a specific package for the 13.4 ATI driver.. I would like to know.
[04:31] <jak2000> how to delete a bunk of files: rm *.tmp give me a error.
[04:31] <Ben64> Strucker: we don't support mint here
[04:31] <jak2000> Ben64 any advice?
[04:32] <Ben64> jak2000: well, whats the error
[04:32] <jak2000> arghh i am at honme not copied the error
[04:32] <jak2000> but i think need use a for with xargs ?
[04:33] <Strucker> Ben64: And, don't occurred that someone can know that? Nobody online in the mint channel.
[04:33] <Ben64> Strucker: with mint you gotta use the mint channel
[04:34] <Ari-Yang> anybody here use WINE?
[04:34] <Ben64> !anyone | Ari-Yang
[04:34] <Strucker> !linux-mint
[04:35] <Strucker> !mint
[04:35] <gulag2012>  PadNet_201: My-Weather-Indicator
[04:35] <Ari-Yang> for some reason this windows .exe file won't open
[04:35] <Ari-Yang> when I run it in terminal like this: wine namehere.exe I get Install Mono 2.8 or greater for Windows to run .NET 4.0 applications.
[04:35] <Ben64> Ari-Yang: then you probably need to install mono. check the appdb for the program
[04:36] <Quix86> hmm
[04:36] <PadNet_201> gulag2012: Thx
[04:36] <Quix86> !ignore ubottu all
[04:36] <Quix86> shot
[04:36] <Quix86> there
[04:36] <Quix86> that thing drives me up the wall
[04:37] <Ari-Yang> Ben64, what do you mean appdb?
[04:37] <Ben64> !appdb
[04:37] <Ari-Yang> ah
[04:40] <Ari-Yang> Ben64, I don't see anything about mono on that page, can I install mono by running winetricks dotnet20 ?
[04:41] <Ben64> you should find the program you're trying to run on the appdb, most likely someone already has steps to get it working
[04:43] <x-warrior> How can I install moonlight on chrome on ubuntu 13.04? If I download the crx file to a folder, open the extension tab and try to drag the .crx file from folder, every unity menu gets gray and the chrome doesn't popup again... ideaS? :S
[04:46] <dk0r> I'm having trouble getting four cifs shares mounted via autofs. Only the top share listed in my auto.master will mount.  Do you see anything glaringly wrong here?  https://gist.github.com/dk0r/5632741
[04:47] <dk0r> If I swap a different share to the top line of auto.master, then that share will mount but none of the others will.
[04:50] <th0r> dk0r: they can't all have the same mnt point?
[04:50] <dk0r> th0r: you mean /mnt/readynas ?
[04:50] <th0r> dk0r: yup...just a guess
[04:50] <dk0r> th0r: trying..
[04:51] <th0r> dk0r : make different folders within that one for each share
[04:52] <slacker_nl> seronis: hehehehe - I was a sleep, no worries :P
[04:52] <fragged> Where did nvidia-experimental-310 go? I upgraded to Ubuntu 13 and it is now no longer in the repository, I need this for my PLP setup as 304 does not support RandR.
[04:52] <seronis> slacker_nl:   'sla-tab' failed me =-)
[04:53] <slacker_nl> I noticed :)
[04:53] <slacker_nl> hehehehe
[04:53] <X-warrior`> How can I install moonlight on chrome on ubuntu 13.04? If I download the crx file to a folder, open the extension tab and try to drag the .crx file from folder, every unity menu gets gray and the chrome doesn't popup again... ideaS? :S
[04:53] <fishcooker> is fail2ban is effective to limit the intruder?
[04:53] <slacker_nl> i think so
[04:53] <slacker_nl> fishcooker: ^^
[04:54] <seronis> X-warrior`:  are you trying to install moonlight for generic reasons or for netflix ?
[04:54] <X-warrior`> seronis, stockmarket
[04:55] <dk0r> th0r: thanks. They're all mounting now, but one issue. Now there are unnecesary dir's. For example, personal mounts under /mnt/readynas/personal/personal/   Here is my new auto.master:  https://gist.github.com/dk0r/5632741
[04:55] <slacker_nl> fragged: could be renamed to nvidia-current?
[04:55] <fragged> slacker_nl, doubt it, 304 is still in experimental
[04:56] <slacker_nl> fragged: i saw, read, somewhere that 310 is now stable
[04:56] <fishcooker> i mean slacker_nl.. there is so much bot out there try to come in
[04:56] <slacker_nl> check with apt-cache policy nvidia-current and check the version
[04:56] <fishcooker> or openssh server it self can handle those thing
[04:56] <fishcooker> *those bad thing
[04:56] <slacker_nl> fishcooker: no, you need to make sure nobody gets in
[04:57] <slacker_nl> fail2ban helps
[04:57] <slacker_nl> fishcooker: i also use something like this:
[04:57] <slacker_nl> #    $IPTABLES -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -i eth0 -m state --state NEW -m recent --set
[04:57] <slacker_nl> #    $IPTABLES -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -i eth0 -m state --state NEW -m recent --update --seconds 30 --hitcount 15 -j DROP
[04:58] <slacker_nl> although I've commented it out
[04:58] <dalfry> Ehlo. need help with a weird network interface config issue. I can't get eth0 on a machine (out of eth0, 1 and 2) to auto configure ipv6 address
[04:58] <usr13> X-warrior`: FYI:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/linux-silverlight-plugin-moonlight-abandoned
[04:58] <slacker_nl> (not sure why, but, that's what I used to use
[04:58] <fishcooker> LoL slacker_nl
[04:58] <fishcooker> why you commented it out
[04:58] <slacker_nl> fishcooker: could be because of fail2ban
[04:59] <fishcooker>  ok slacker_nl thankyou
[04:59] <X-warrior`> usr13, I hate this assholes that startusing this closed shit
[04:59] <fishcooker> nice n quick response
[04:59] <slacker_nl> i never added a comment of why it is commented out, but I guess fail2ban
[04:59] <X-warrior`> anyway, ty :D
[04:59] <IdleOne> !language | X-warrior`
[04:59] <X-warrior`> my bad
[04:59] <X-warrior`> this nice guys*
[05:00] <fragged> slacker_nl, adding quantal-updates repos appears to have fixed the issue, ta
[05:00] <Chanshark> X-warrior`:  shall i break out in song? we are all in this together?
[05:01] <slacker_nl> ta?
[05:01] <X-warrior`> ?
[05:01] <Chanshark> im not sure its late and im writting tutorial
[05:01] <Chanshark> and im tired
[05:01] <slacker_nl> tactical aid, but we are not playing world in conflict :P
[05:01] <X-warrior`> are u writing a tutorial about moonlight?
[05:01] <X-warrior`> x)
[05:01] <Chanshark> java
[05:01] <X-warrior`> java7 for chrome?
[05:01] <X-warrior`> x)
[05:02] <Chanshark> i see what you did there
[05:02] <X-warrior`> ?D
[05:02] <X-warrior`> :D
[05:02] <X-warrior`> I'm glad
[05:02] <X-warrior`> :D
[05:02] <Chanshark> i am not amused :|
[05:02] <FloodBot1> X-warrior`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:02] <X-warrior`> Chanshark, just trying to cheer u up a little
[05:02] <X-warrior`> :D
[05:03] <Chanshark> cheer me up by writting these next 700 tutorials
[05:03] <Chanshark> 300 down >.>
[05:03] <xlaire> hello
[05:03] <kate_r> hi
[05:03] <kate_r> does anyone know how to generate the public key given a fingerprint?
[05:03] <X-warrior`> Chanshark, where are all this tutorials going to be?
[05:03] <xlaire> i need help, how check disk or fix disk, my ubuntu is corrupted
[05:04] <Chanshark> for my class that i did not mean to have
[05:04] <X-warrior`> college?
[05:04] <aeon-ltd> xlaire: i'm not sure if it can, but i'm reading up on fsck right now
[05:04] <Chanshark> no lol im just a tech support guy tutoring 2 guys in java next thing i know im tutoring 300 people
[05:05] <Chanshark> rather odd how it happened :P
[05:05] <X-warrior`> Add one in this class
[05:05] <X-warrior`> where should I flight to?
[05:06] <Chanshark> lol its just via when ever i get around updating a app
[05:06] <X-warrior`> fly*
[05:06] <X-warrior`> is it opensource?
[05:06] <Chanshark> im not sure
[05:07] <Chanshark> i'd have to ask my partner
[05:07] <Chanshark> i think it is though
[05:07] <Chanshark> but this is a irc for ubuntu so if you really want to know more you can just pm me so we stop being off topic
[05:09] <X-warrior`> Chanshark, sadly I will have to go now, but we talk more tomorrow, take care and keep the good job
[05:09] <X-warrior`> thanks for the help guys
[05:09] <X-warrior`> :D
[05:09] <Chanshark> okey
[05:11] <Chanshark> Does anyone know how to make a bootable usb save?
[05:13] <aeon-ltd> Chanshark: you mean a peristent install to a usb stick?
[05:13] <aeon-ltd> *persistent
[05:17] <Ari-Yang> how do I use the command for e.g. locate filenamehere.mp3 to gedit?
[05:17] <Ari-Yang> like output the results to gedit
[05:19] <gulag2012> cat ?
[05:26] <fishcooker> slacker_nl: is there any guide to building the server with ubuntu
[05:26] <fishcooker> any reference would be appreciated
[05:27] <nullby7e> how can i use ufw with -i to see which service runs some daemon and port
[05:28] <Sir_Leto> I unplugged my desktop/server while moving it accidentally, and now grub can find no partitions. help?
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> Sir_Leto: tryed to update-grub?
[05:33] <blubber> I recently installed 13.04 on my MacBook, it works like a charm. But there is a small problem. Periodically my system stalls for a brief period (less then 1s), after which it continues fine.
[05:33] <Sir_Leto> i'll try
[05:34] <blubber> I looked at syslog and dmesg, and top, also at vmstat, can't find any weirdness.
[05:34] <blubber> Any idea what I  can do about this?
[05:34] <Jegan> I am looking for some tool in linux which can detect memory corruption
[05:34] <Jegan> I tried libduma. it works and it slows down the system much
[05:35] <Jegan> If this is not the right channel to ask, please give me the information where I can find
[05:36] <Sir_Leto> lotuspsychje: update-grub is an unkown command
[05:36] <tc_885> Greetings. I am looking for some help with my SFTP accounts on AWS EC2. I have an Ubuntu instance and I can log in (using Transmit for OS X) with the key pair for the root account but that user has only read-only access. I created a new user account (using command line) but I can't seem to connect using that account when I change the username in Transmit. I'm clearly missing a step or two. Can anyone help me out for a couple minutes?
[05:37] <tc_885> .join ##ec2
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> Sir_Leto: sudo update-grub should work
[05:38] <Sir_Leto> in grub rescue?
[05:38] <Sir_Leto> it doesnt
[05:38] <Sir_Leto> not even sudo is recognized.
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> Sir_Leto: ah you might wanna update-grub from livecd
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Sir_Leto: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd
[05:40] <Sir_Leto> those don't work on this computer, I have to make a live usb tomorrow. >.>
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> Sir_Leto: how bout loading failsafex from grub?
[05:43] <ulises> hola que tal
[05:43] <Sir_Leto> just tried with advanced boot options and that worked. *facepalm*
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !es | ulises
[05:44] <Sir_Leto> I need to fix grub nw
[05:44] <devunt> !es
[05:44] <faadd> hellloo
[05:44] <faadd> how to backup only user data without backing up any application setting and data
[05:45] <faadd> anyone
[05:45] <tack_> just select the folders you want to back you and or excluded folders
[05:45] <mozhexiaodu> 还是说中文吧
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !cn | mozhexiaodu
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> !backup | faadd
[05:46] <ulises> whats up
[05:47] <mrmowgli> Anyone know why the 13x upgrade crashes saying my python instance is corrupted at /usr/bin/python?
[05:47] <faadd> i'm using this deja backup
[05:47] <mrmowgli> What version of python does it need?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> mrmowgli: might be handy to pastebin your error in channel
[05:48] <mrmowgli> because It's currently pointed at 2.7.3
[05:48] <faadd> restoring the home folder will automatically restore and install all application in a new hard drive?
[05:48] <mrmowgli> lotuspsychje: can't it's a dialog box
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> mrmowgli: or tinpic it :p
[05:49] <mrmowgli> Is there a manual way to make the upgrade happen with apt-get?  On 12.10
[05:50] <mrmowgli> lotuspsychje: it literally says Upgrade Failed.  Python instance is corrupted at /usr/bin/python.  [Cancel]
[05:50] <mrmowgli> It's annoying of course and not informative.
[05:51] <mrmowgli> I also haven't any idea how to make the upgrade popup show again.
[05:52] <fishcooker> is there any difference between x86  with x86_64 architecture in webserver implementation
[05:52] <fishcooker> ?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> mrmowgli: how about this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall python
[05:52] <slacker_nl> fishcooker: yes, there is a server guide
[05:52] <slacker_nl> fishcooker: any guide that sets up a box as a debian server is equally good
[05:53] <mrmowgli> trying it now, but don't know how to get the upgrade popup to show again.  Seems the system update pops it up
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> mrmowgli: did you recently upgrade to 13.04?
[05:54] <mrmowgli> lotuspsychje: no I'm on 12.10
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> ok
[05:55] <faadd> restoring the home folder will automatically restore and install all application ?
[05:55] <faadd> does ubuntu install app on home folder /
[05:55] <j1> Hello amigos
[05:55] <j1> I am using ubuntu 12.10 and I am stuck to a strange issue
[05:55] <j1> if anyone can help please
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> j1: just ask mate
[05:56] <j1> @lotus:- Thanks mate
[05:56] <j1> everything was working fine till I installed samba
[05:56] <j1> when I installed samba with apt-get
[05:56] <j1> it was installed fine
[05:56] <j1> but since then I am not able to
[05:56] <faadd> r u brazillian/
[05:56] <slacker_nl> faadd: no
[05:56] <j1> login
[05:57] <j1> it says authentication failure
[05:57] <j1> I tried single user
[05:57] <j1> and got one indication
[05:57] <j1> that read only file system is  at least one problem
[05:57] <j1> everytime I reboot
[05:57] <j1> when I give passwd command
[05:58] <j1> it does not ask for
[05:58] <j1> current or new password
[05:58] <j1> it just executes without any error
[05:58] <sawjig> faadd, applications are not installed to /home
[05:58] <faadd> which folder ubuntu save all app setting
[05:59] <j1> anyone ?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | faadd
[06:00] <sawjig> lotuspsychje, assuming he hasn't apt-get clean
[06:00] <slacker_nl> faadd: depends on the app
[06:01] <slacker_nl> faadd: some place files in /etc, others in /etc and in /home, others only in /home
[06:01] <msandhu> j1: are you just trying to change password for current user ?
[06:01] <j1> yes
[06:01] <j1> @sandhu :- Yes mate
[06:02] <msandhu> j1: strange
[06:02] <MissionControl> exit
[06:02] <msandhu> can you go super user and then try passwd <username>
[06:02] <msandhu> see if that works
[06:02] <j1> msandhu:- yes it is, googled a lot but did not find same issue, tried to clear pasword in /etc/shadow, but no luck
[06:02] <msandhu> or you can strace
[06:03] <faadd> then that would create problem if i backup the entire home folder and then restore it to a system that doesn't have that particular app installed
[06:03] <j1> @msandhu:- yes I did that but same thing , I mean did not ask for password, even I tried creating new user with admin permissions , it added user but did not ask for password and did not allow me to login with new user too
[06:04] <faadd> those files and i backup become useless and taking up space
[06:04] <msandhu> j1: is this new install
[06:04] <msandhu> ?
[06:04] <faadd> files that get backup become junk
[06:04] <bugtraq> hey  guys
[06:05] <j1> @msandhu :- no we are using it for a year now
[06:05] <j1> @msandhu:- btw it is ubuntu 12.10
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> faadd: why not backing up files to external hd, and reinstall your ubuntu clean
[06:06] <msandhu> j1: is that a vm ?
[06:06] <j1> @msandhu :- no it is not vm
[06:07] <sawjig> faadd, you were already told about aptoncd that will make it possible to install all the apps you have on now.
[06:07] <sawjig> faadd, you click a button that says, 'backup software selection'
[06:08] <faadd> lotuspsychje , i'm trying to backup files but i want to know what happen to those data to apps because i might not install them back
[06:09] <jordan_> How should I set ThreadStackSize for my apache2 server?
[06:09] <sawjig> faadd, nothing.
[06:09] <faadd> i mean those data for apps that i didn't reinstall
[06:09] <msandhu> j1: try strace passwd
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:10] <j1> @msandhu ok Thanks mate
[06:10] <faadd> sawjig , what do you mean nothing ?
[06:10] <faadd> they will be restore back to home folder too arent they
[06:10] <sawjig> faadd, If you have .gimp and don't install Gimp when you setup Ubuntu again then you'll still have .gimp in your home directory...
[06:10] <faadd> so the data will just be there takingg up space/
[06:11] <sawjig> Most things are just configuration files and not data so you're talking bytes in most cases and at most kilobytes.
[06:12] <sawjig> but if you use apttocd you can just reinstall every application you have installed on your Ubuntu install now..
[06:13] <sawjig> !info aptoncd | faadd
[06:13] <sawjig> aptoncd*
[06:13] <sawjig> run aptoncd on your current install and you can get a list of all the packages you have installed
[06:19] <jordan_> apache2 service won't run and i am getting the alert "[alert] (11)Resource temporarily unavailable: apr_thread_create: unable to create worker thread" in log. Any ideas?
[06:23] <j1> @msandhu :- Mate Thanks for your help, actually when we were discussing one of my team members re installed ubuntu and it was solved. :P but it was very kind of you dear
[06:26] <Campfire> i need some linux securty network training do we have a site
[06:27] <Campfire> i mean channal
[06:27] <bazhang> ##security Campfire
[06:27] <Campfire> ty good op
[06:31] <varikonniemi> the software updater fails to launch each time on my system. The logo is shown in the bar, but clicking it will bring nothing forward
[06:31] <varikonniemi> manually launching it works as expected
[06:31] <varikonniemi> how to fix?
[06:31] <ggss> my bakup failed on sqlite.bak
[06:32] <ggss> wat could be the problem
[06:33] <xro> Hi, I would like to add facebook to empathy... i cannot because of the bug 1180297. The "workaround" is to permit authentication through HTTP which is insecure!!! do you have informations about this bug?  why am i the only one thinking about security?
[06:35] <ggss> my bakup failed on sqlite.bak
[06:40] <xro> does someone see when i write something? if yes... do you hate me?
[06:40] <ggss> anyone?
[06:40] <bazhang> !patience | xro
[06:41] <bazhang> ggss, need more details
[06:41] <ggss> no more detail
[06:42] <bazhang> ggss, "bakup fail" wont get any help. it's way too vague
[06:42] <ggss> lol
[06:44] <frustro> hey, so I went from 10.10 to 13.04.  got most working fine.  but how to mount an scp on a remote server?
[06:44] <frustro> I cant find it in network
[06:44] <frustro> or file connecct to server
[06:49] <yeehi> There is a simple package for Ubuntu which allows you to monitor a Label within Gmail and provides a notification when mail arrives with that label. I forget the name of the package. Which one is it?
[06:50] <bazhang> apt-cache search term     yeehi
[06:50] <xro> bazhang, patience is something i need :P
[06:51] <yeehi> i have used the software centre to search gmail and tried installing a few packages, bazhang, but they aren't the one I remember / which worked...
[06:51] <bazhang> yeehi, so use the apt-cache search method in the terminal, it will give a much larger selection than the software centre
[06:59] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[06:59] <yellabs-r2> i am trying to install the new skype ( 4.2.0 ) on 12.04 but get error and cant install, any one has tips ?
[07:00] <ra-fi> hi i tried to play a mp3 file using gstreamer i used the following command gst-launch filesrc location=/opt/songs/suthu.mp3 ! mad ! alsasink thn it shows the following error http://pastebin.com/8TKEzicx but audio does not playing can you tell me what is that issues
[07:02] <SD> hello
[07:02] <donnie> Hi. i'm on Voyager... It's a ubuntu based french distro. I like it. It's all in english. except the software center. How do I get it in english
[07:06] <yeehi> oh, i didn't know that, bazhang - i will try it - thank you!
[07:08] <onborad> How to disable Ctrl+Shift+U in  Linux
[07:10] <yellabs-r2> found solution for skype not installing  : http://handytutorial.com/install-skype-4-2-in-ubuntu-13-04-12-04-12-10/
[07:10] <stacky> can someone please help me in solving this error
[07:10] <stacky> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5633220
[07:11] <Ben64> stacky: try removing that torrus-apache2
[07:12] <stacky> Ben64:  i can't remove that because it has not been installed yet
[07:12] <stacky> no option in apt-get remove torrus-apache2
[07:13] <Ben64> what do you mean "no option"
[07:13] <stacky> sorry.. removed
[07:14] <stacky> Ben64: Now ?
[07:15] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> how can  i fix configure: error: GLIB >= 2.4.0 not installed.
[07:15] <Ben64> stacky: sudo apt-get install -f
[07:16] <stacky> Ben64: how am i supposed to compensate for the removal of torrus-apache ?
[07:17] <Ben64> stacky: depends on what you're trying to do
[07:20] <williangliao> hmm
[07:20] <stacky> Ben64: do u have any idea on
[07:20] <stacky> apache2                                                                                                                                                     Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/apache2/conf.d/torrus-apache2.conf:
[07:20] <stacky> Invalid command 'PerlRequire', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[07:22] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> configure: error: GLIB >= 2.4.0 not installed
[07:28] <slacker_nl> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0
[07:28] <slacker_nl> on LTS it is 2.32.3-0ubuntu1
[07:28] <digitalrao> anyone notice that Ubuntu Software center asking for payment info?
[07:29] <AtuM> digitalrao, I haven't clicked on any of the payable apps, so no.. not yet
[07:30] <digitalrao> i been clicking on free apps
[07:30] <slacker_nl> stacky: dpkg --purge torrus-apache2 ?
[07:30] <slacker_nl> purge also removes the configfiles and such
[07:31] <stacky> slacker_nl: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5633288
[07:31] <slacker_nl> yes
[07:31] <slacker_nl> now try to so what you wanted to do in the first place
[07:33] <stacky> slacker_nl:
[07:33] <stacky> it worked :)
[07:33] <stacky> apache ran
[07:33] <stacky> :)
[07:33] <stacky> thank you :)
[07:33] <slacker_nl> I knew that
[07:33] <FloodBot1> stacky: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:33] <slacker_nl> and you are welcome
[07:37] <MonkWitDaFunk> Hi #ubuntu, do the 6 month release cycle ubuntu have the same hardware detection has the long term support?
[07:38] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5692792/
[07:38] <MonkWitDaFunk> Ubuntu 12.04 lts has hardware detection for my laptop but lubuntu 13.04 does not
[07:38] <fishcooker> why there is no that command
[07:38] <fishcooker> because i refer to this https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html#do-release-upgrade
[07:39] <deckard> how can i see which programs are set to start when ubuntu boots?
[07:40] <MonkWitDaFunk> Deckard, you can use task manager
[07:40] <deckard> ty
[07:40] <MonkWitDaFunk> Look for the dash and type it in
[07:41] <susundberg> fishcooker: afaik there should be one, is your $PATH wrong or similar
[07:41] <slacker_nl> fishcooker: it should be there, if you have update-manager-core installed
[07:42] <susundberg> oh slacker_nl is right, dont listen to me
[07:42] <slacker_nl> susundberg: that could be the case as well (wrong PATH)
[07:43] <fishcooker> that's fine susundberg, i appreciate your quick response.. that's nice
[07:43] <slacker_nl> fishcooker: dpkg -l update-manager-core if it is installed it should display something like ii update-manager-core
[07:43] <MonkWitDaFunk> Does anybody know if the long term support has better hardware detection than the 6 month cycled releases?
[07:44] <slacker_nl> MonkWitDaFunk: should be the same
[07:45] <slacker_nl> MonkWitDaFunk: lshw and family, lsusb, lspci etc
[07:45] <fishcooker> thanks slacker_nl
[07:45] <MonkWitDaFunk> Ubuntu 12.04 works on my laptop but does not work with lubuntu 13.04
[07:45] <slacker_nl> define "does not work"
[07:46] <MonkWitDaFunk> Does not have a functional desktop enviroment when booting a live session off a cd/dvd
[07:46] <slacker_nl> check the logs in /var/log/
[07:47] <slacker_nl> Xorg.log and such
[07:47] <MonkWitDaFunk> ? I cant even access the terminal
[07:48] <slacker_nl> crtl-alt, f1?
[07:48] <deckard> hi again. I am having a strange problem. This was not an issue till i updates the Windows side of the duel boot. Anyway, so now when I launch the browser in Ubuntu, it logs me out. Any idea what is going on? Also, when I loginto the desktop it auto opens terminal. It never did these things.
[07:49] <MonkWitDaFunk> I cant access the terminal using lubunu 13.04
[07:49] <MonkWitDaFunk> Lubuntu*
[07:49] <slacker_nl> too bad
[07:49] <slacker_nl> well, I'm back to work
[07:49] <dr_willis> try some differnt terminal applications. like terminator, gnome-terminal, good old xterm. and rxvt  perhaps MonkWitDaFunk  see if any work
[07:50] <MonkWitDaFunk> I thought the only thing i can do is use ctrl alt t
[07:51] <MonkWitDaFunk> I can even see the desktop giving me option to install the OS
[07:51] <MonkWitDaFunk> I cant*
[07:51] <s6420> hey
[07:51] <deckard> it just logged me out when launching FF
[07:52] <dr_willis> you can install dozen of differnt ter,onal applications..  unless you are meaning you are having issues seeing he desktp to use any desktop apps..
[07:52] <dr_willis> deckard:  make a new user.. see if they have the same issue as a test.
[07:52] <MonkWitDaFunk> Deckard, are you using unwanted software?
[07:52] <slacker_nl> MonkWitDaFunk: you should go to the console
[07:53] <MonkWitDaFunk> I cant see the desktop dr willis
[07:53] <slacker_nl> which is accessible via ctrl-alt fF1-6
[07:53] <MonkWitDaFunk> I just get the lubuntu screen
[07:53] <dr_willis> what do you mean by 'the lubuntu screen'
[07:53] <deckard> logged me out again, i have no clue why
[07:54] <MonkWitDaFunk> It says lubuntu after choosing english
[07:54] <dr_willis> deckard:  try with a newly made user. or a differnt firefox profile thats using NO extensions
[07:54] <MonkWitDaFunk> Choosing english, try lubunu without installing and the screen stays there
[07:55] <dr_willis> MonkWitDaFunk:  so on a Live-cd setup.  you select 'try lubuntu' then you get a currupted desktop?
[07:55] <deckard> its doing it opening terminal even, does that change things, dr_willis
[07:55] <MonkWitDaFunk> Sounds like it. Yah
[07:55] <dr_willis> deckard:  i would login at the console. and make a new user.. see if they have the same issue
[07:55] <deckard> how would i do that?
[07:55] <dr_willis> MonkWitDaFunk:  tried the nomodeset  option yet? what is your video chipset?
[07:55] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[07:56] <MonkWitDaFunk> Ati
[07:56] <dr_willis> deckard:  go to the console. make a new user 'sudo adduser billgates'   then see if he can login normally at the lightdm login screen
[07:56] <deckard> ty
[07:56] <Question> Haw can i chang system name in ubuntu ?
[07:57] <dr_willis> !hostname | Question
[07:58] <dr_willis> MonkWitDaFunk:  id try it with the nomodeset option, thats often needed for some chipsets
[07:59] <Question> not working /etc/hosts and etc/hostname
[07:59] <Question> i can not chang system name
[07:59] <dr_willis> Question:  what do you mean by 'not working'
[08:00] <testuser> ty dr_willis , creating another user seems to work. But now this means i must install again all the software i had on the glitching user?
[08:00] <dr_willis> testuser:  what software did that user install?
[08:00] <dr_willis> testuser:  most likely the issue is some setting in the problem users home.
[08:01] <testuser> well all the FF options are reset like passwords. I also had a game i ran from home
[08:01] <Question> well in terminal is my old name... not the new
[08:01] <slacker_nl> Question: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic#Setting.2BAC8-changing_the_hostname
[08:01] <testuser> gone
[08:01] <Question> it is inpossible to change
[08:01] <dr_willis> Question:  and did you open a new terminal> did you ALSO use the hostname command to change it after editing the files? or rebooted?
[08:01] <Question> yes
[08:02] <Question> :( need to reinstall ?
[08:02] <slacker_nl> nooo
[08:02] <slacker_nl> for changing a hostname?
[08:03] <dr_willis> dozens of peopel change their hostname following the avove info without reinstalling...
[08:03] <testuser> so thats that it seems? I just abandon the user account i set up?
[08:03] <Question> no i want to change system name "computer name 1name@
[08:03] <dr_willis> so i whoud think that points to you overlooking a step. :0
[08:03] <dr_willis> that IS the hostname
[08:03] <dr_willis> why is it even imporntant to change the hostname?
[08:03] <testuser> how may i delete the original user account i set up?
[08:04] <dr_willis> testuser:  why do you want to?
[08:04] <testuser> i cant use it anymore right?
[08:04] <testuser> that user is logging me out randomly
[08:04] <diverdude> Hello. When i try to restart apache i get: Failed loading /usr/lib/php5/20090626/xdebug.so:  /usr/lib/php5/20090626/xdebug.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. This mistake is obvious since /usr/lib/php5/20090626 dont exists. Its called /usr/lib/php5/20100525 on the machine. What i however do not understand is why apache want to look in the wrong place. Any ideas?
[08:04] <Question> yes i'm only user on my pc ... guest=false
[08:05] <testuser> this is deckard, sorry
[08:05] <dr_willis> testuser:  why not reset the setting files/move them to a backup directory...
[08:05] <testuser> is there an easy option to do that?
[08:05] <dr_willis> rename your .config dir.. and see if it fixs things
[08:06] <dr_willis> theres dozens of other config files in the users home also.   that might be affecting things.
[08:06] <testuser> speaking to me dr_willis
[08:06] <dr_willis> hard core approach.. move most EVERY .* file to a backup directory
[08:06] <dr_willis> except for .gvfs and i think..
[08:06] <dr_willis> then see if the user can log in
[08:06] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com had detailed guides on 'resetting  settings back to defaults'  i recall
[08:07] <testuser> i prefer to setup a new user from scratch, how can i delete the old user account?
[08:07] <dr_willis> no idea. i dont see the point in it.. it would be the same as if you deleted all that users setting files..
[08:07] <dr_willis> if you insist on deleting a user.. make SURE you have users with root/sudo rights first
[08:08] <testuser> i can make a new user, how would i give it root rights?
[08:08] <SteveBell> dear all. I'm thinking about putting ubuntu as the main and only OS ona toshiba netbook (NB 305). is there anything I have to think of before actually installing from a USB stick? tried googling but couldn't find too much about that specific model.
[08:08] <dr_willis> this is why i suggested just cleaning out the old sudo enabled users settings.
[08:09] <slacker_nl> testuser: there a few approaches
[08:09] <testuser> i want to do this but nothing you tell me makes much sense because i dont know what it is lol
[08:09] <slacker_nl> the one I prefer
[08:09] <slacker_nl> add group, eg, admin (perhaps it is there already)
[08:09] <dr_willis> testuser:  then i suggest you do the safest thing.. login to the console as the provlem user.. and move ALL their config files to a backup directory
[08:09] <betrayd> SteveBell how would you rate your l inux expertise, beginner, advanced, master
[08:09] <slacker_nl> make sure that group has the right to use root
[08:10] <slacker_nl> add the user to the group
[08:10] <slacker_nl> and done
[08:10] <lonos> hi
[08:10] <slacker_nl> you can add users to that same group
[08:10] <slacker_nl> and they have the ability to become root
[08:10] <SteveBell> betrayd def beginner
[08:11] <lonos> I have an ubuntu server 12.04.2 with static IP in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:11] <testuser> i dont know anything about adding groups, i can research all this but i am a noob and if you think its faster to just reinstall ubuntu i will. i dont have time now to read and read
[08:11] <lonos> but every morning it has the old dhcp address
[08:11] <testuser> i need it to work for now, i can learn later lol
[08:11] <betrayd> Steve don't do one OS if you're  beginner, there is a steep learning curve
[08:11] <SteveBell> have been using windows, now OS X for years and know how to change the harddisk and simple stuff like that but linux is new to me and I'm everything but a sys admin :P (betrayd)
[08:12] <SteveBell> well this is my playground machine anyways
[08:12] <slacker_nl> just go for it then
[08:12] <SteveBell> my main work will be done on a machine I won't touch
[08:12] <slacker_nl> eyes closed
[08:12] <slacker_nl> insert cd
[08:12] <betrayd> SteveBell, so you have other machines, so wouldn't worry then
[08:12] <slacker_nl> press, next, next, next
[08:12] <slacker_nl> enter paradise
[08:13] <MonkeyDust> SteveBell  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/a-home-users-successful-migration-strategy-from-windows-to-ubuntu/
[08:13] <slacker_nl> (or hell, depending on your experiences)
[08:13] <testuser> is there a sudo command to reset (fix) issues with the account i was using?
[08:13] <betrayd> but try a liveCD/liveUSb first unless you've played with other linuxes before
[08:13] <SteveBell> MonkeyDust thx for the link. I don't have anything to migrate even. betrayd ok will look that up, get the liveUSB ready and see how to proceed from there.
[08:13] <betrayd> and there's a suggested link thanks MonkeyDust
[08:14] <SteveBell> thanks so far that's already been a helpful hint in the right direction
[08:14] <dr_willis> testuser:  other then removeing all the files in their home.. or as i mentooned.. rename or move the .config directory which holds mostg all their setting files.. and see if it works..   i think it would be   'rename .config   old.config'  but its  4 am here... so i could be tired and wrong
[08:14] <betrayd> Ionly suggest liveCD/USB to get familiar with that hardware
[08:14] <dr_willis> or 'rm -rf .config' to just delete it
[08:15] <betrayd> ok folks cya gottarun have fun SteveBell
[08:16] <SteveBell> I'm sure I will. have a nice day betrayd
[08:16] <SteveBell> thx for the help
[08:16] <fishcooker> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html
[08:16] <fishcooker> on verification section
[08:16] <fishcooker>  cat /proc/cmdline
[08:16] <fishcooker> quiet
[08:17] <fishcooker> why?
[08:17] <Shambat> I have a question about top: is the %CPU column showing how many percent of the total CPU usage a process is using? So if the total CPU being used is 2%, and, say apache, is showing 50%, the real amount that Apache is using is 1% of the CPU?
[08:17] <dr_willis> clarify what you mean fishcooker ..
[08:18] <slacker_nl> Shambat: depends on the amount of cores you have iirc
[08:18] <dr_willis> Shambat:  htop can give much easier to read % numbers.. and  i seem to recall the %cpu info can be a little missleading on multicore systems
[08:19] <fishcooker> when i # cat /proc/cmdline.. why produce output "quiet"?
[08:19] <dr_willis> i cant recall where but i saw mine showing like 250% used once on a quad core ssytem ;)
[08:19] <fishcooker> not like the server guide
[08:19] <dr_willis> fishcooker: because the  cmdline pased to the kernel was  the  line    '   quiet   '
[08:20] <dr_willis> on a desktop machine the default cmdline would be 'quiet nosplash '   and perhaos other options as well
[08:20] <dr_willis> this is defined in /etc/default/grub  fishcooker
[08:20] <lasers> fishcooker: quiet eliminates lot of startup "noises" -- A text wall scrolling by fast.
[08:21] <fishcooker> hhmmmm wait2
[08:21] <dr_willis> i recall you can use 'verbose' instead of  quiet and gets lots of info printed...
[08:21] <fishcooker> how to distinguise when we use server kernel rather than desktop
[08:22] <Shambat> dr_willis: is there some way to massage the output of top? htop is not standard in our systems unfortunately
[08:22] <fishcooker> i've vps here but
[08:22] <dr_willis> Shambat:  never tried.. i tnd to just use htop
[08:22] <fishcooker> there is no option for ubuntu server
[08:22] <zeus_> hello everybody,i have downloaded the iso document from http://www.ubuntu.com/,when i use md5sum to check those documents' md5 code, i founded that one document's md5 code is not the same as md5 code in md5sum.txt,why?
[08:22] <dr_willis> fishcooker:  what iss your end goal in all this?
[08:22] <fishcooker> only ubuntu12.04-x86_64
[08:22] <fishcooker> webserver
[08:22] <fishcooker> for php apps
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> !md5 | zeus_
[08:23] <dr_willis> fishcooker:  so why does the cmdline optins matter?
[08:24] <al_nz1> does 12.04 still use /etc/networking/interfaces - cause I have set eth4 to static in that file but I am still getting a address via dhcp
[08:25] <Ben64> al_nz1: sort of... it's /etc/network/interfaces
[08:25] <al_nz1> Hmm, wonder why no static then
[08:26] <fishcooker> Kernel Crash Dump Mechanism
[08:26] <fishcooker> hwo to know we are using desktop rather than server stuff
[08:26] <fishcooker> ?
[08:26] <Shambat> dr_willis: hitting shift-i will toggle the mode to show % across all cpus or accross one cpu
[08:26] <kingtut1> fishcooker: say it.
[08:27] <kingtut1> Shambat: why
[08:28] <dr_willis> last i looked the kernels used by the server and desktop were the same.. if its the kernel you are refering to. the lsb_release -a , and uname -a , commands will show what kernel you are using
[08:28] <dr_willis> theres getting to be less and less diffferances btween the server and desktop editions  from what ive seen
[08:29] <blech_> hi. I created a new user accont and set it as admin account but now it says i need superuser root, apparently its not the password for the new account i made. Any help?
[08:29] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5693012/
[08:29] <blech_> silly me to think setting it as admin was the answer
[08:29] <MonkeyDust> SteveBell  just read http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2013/05/steven-ovadia-i-wiped-windows.html
[08:30] <fishcooker>  2.6.32-042stab076.8 #1 SMP Tue May 14 20:38:14 MSK 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:30] <dr_willis> blech_:  so as that user if you do a  'sudo ls -l /'  does it work?
[08:30] <blech_> ill try
[08:31] <dr_willis> or just 'sudo ls'  ;)
[08:31] <blech_> says i am not int he sudoers file
[08:31] <llutz> to test for sudo, you'd use " sudo -l"
[08:32] <blech_> kingtut is sending me racist ims lol
[08:32] <dr_willis> so im not sure how you tried to give that user sudo/admin rights  but it apareently dident work
[08:32] <dr_willis> you DID logout/backin as that user after giving them the sudo rights?
[08:32] <blech_> i created a new account and set it to admin, i thought that was the right thing
[08:32] <blech_> yes i think i did
[08:33] <dr_willis> double check perhaps? llogin at the console as that user and see if 'sudo -l' works
[08:33] <blech_> i dont know how to do that
[08:34] <Sylvie_> hi, I just upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04 and I can no longer connect to the wireless
[08:34] <Sylvie_> I'm using a wired connection right now
[08:34] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 get to the consoles. alt-ctrl-f7 gets back to the X desktop
[08:34] <Vraaghetmaar> check your wireless card is ctivated in your bios
[08:34] <Sylvie_> my husband's computer got upgraded just the same and everything went well on his. We both have Dell XPS computers (although mine is a Studio)
[08:35] <Sylvie_> Vraaghetmaar, I just upgraded and rebooted. Everything was fine before
[08:35] <nicholas__> Have a querry about workrave - it shows in the launcher, but when I close it from there, it shuts down.
[08:35] <nicholas__> Doesn't show in system tray
[08:36] <nicholas__> any way of getting it so it shows in the system tray, and so I can close it from the launcher and have it keep running?
[08:36] <dr_willis> in 13.04 i belive theres only a few apps thatg can show up in the system tray. apps are supposed to be moveing to  using the indicator-applet method to show icons at the top right panel
[08:37] <Vraaghetmaar> sylvie_ you now what kind of wireless device u.have in your pc
[08:37] <dr_willis> omgubuntu and webupd8  blog sites have had a few articals on the sysemtray in 13.04 and getting it working  with older apps
[08:37] <Sylvie_> Vraaghetmaar, not sure, no
[08:37] <nicholas__> ^yea, that works. Basically, what rsi recovey program won't show in the launcher, but will keep running?
[08:38] <Vraaghetmaar> sylvie_ type ifconfig in terminal and look the output from the wlan
[08:39] <blech_> i restarted and tried sudo -l in terminal, it didnt work
[08:39] <blech_> is that what you meant?
[08:40] <Sylvie_> Vraaghetmaar, all I see is "eth0" (wired) and "eth1" (wireless) but neither shows the chipset name
[08:40] <dr_willis> blech_:  so that user does not have sudo rights..
[08:40] <blech_> ya i guess so, i thought setting it as admin would give it
[08:41] <blech_> i just used the GUI, i dont know sudo stuff
[08:41] <Sylvie_> Vraaghetmaar, ok, lspci shows that I have a "Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)"
[08:41] <dr_willis> blech_:  that is how you do it.. part of the admin group...   theres cli ways to do it also.. i just dont rember them off hand.
[08:41] <blech_> what do you recomend i do now? i cant do anything sudo
[08:41] <blech_> make another account?
[08:42] <dr_willis> blech_:  you still have your ORIGINAL account that had sudo rights?
[08:42] <blech_> nope :(
[08:42] <blech_> and i cant make new ones now lol
[08:42] <dr_willis> and how did you remove that?
[08:42] <blech_> i deleted it from the GUI
[08:42] <dr_willis> why?
[08:43] <blech_> it wasnt going to be used anymore and it had personal files
[08:43] <dr_willis> you deletered it befor you varified the new account worked?
[08:43] <dr_willis> you should have just deleted the files IN the accounts home.
[08:43] <Vraaghetmaar> sylvie_ i know.there is a driver for your wireless card i.have the same.one
[08:43] <blech_> i did that to, it still auto logged me out after resetting
[08:43] <blech_> so i delted it
[08:43] <Sylvie_> Vraaghetmaar, I'm trying to purge the existing package. Will try to reboot and reinstall it
[08:44] <dr_willis> sounds like you missed some config files.. and now you sort of painted yourself into a corner.
[08:44] <blech_> so i guess that means several hours installing windows then ubuntu again?
[08:44] <dr_willis> why would you need to install windows?
[08:44] <blech_> i want it
[08:44] <dr_willis> what does that have to do with anything at all
[08:44] <blech_> i assume i need to einstall ubuntu to get it to work?
[08:45] <dr_willis> so? why would you think you need to REINSTALL windows?
[08:45] <blech_> i only know how to do that by clean install
[08:45] <blech_> which means, windows then ubuntu?
[08:45] <dr_willis> theres no need to reinstall windows if you want to reinstall ubuntu.. i dont see why you would think that.
[08:45] <dr_willis> you can reinstall ubuntu and tellit to use the existing partitions
[08:45] <blech_> okay so just load the install cd again and what?
[08:46] <dr_willis> or you can fix ubuntu...
[08:46] <dr_willis> with the live cd.
[08:46] <dr_willis> or the recovery mode
[08:46] <Ben64> or just add the new user to the admin group from recovery mode
[08:46] <blech_> okay ill try live cd
[08:46] <granticus> if windows still works, you can wipe the partition that ubuntu is on and reinstall afterward
[08:46] <blech_> i dont know how to Ben
[08:46] <Ben64> thats what this channel is for
[08:46] <dr_willis> !fixroot
[08:46] <blech_> ill try
[08:46] <Sylvie_> Vraaghetmaar, well, that was weird. I purged the package, rebooted and everything works fine
[08:46] <dr_willis> thers some wiki on the topic.. but ive not had to use it
[08:47] <Sylvie_> oh well :)
[08:47] <blech_> !fixrot event not found
[08:47] <Vraaghetmaar> sylvie_ nice good.to hear
[08:47] <Ben64> i would use recovery mode instead of livecd
[08:47] <Sylvie_> now, all I need is to manually install hplip and the upgrade process will be complete, at last :)
[08:47] <blech_> i dont mind installing ubuntu ten times a day, i just dont like having to install both os
[08:47] <blech_> il try live cd, ty
[08:48] <dr_willis> blech_:  as we said.. you do NOT need to reinstall windows at all.
[08:48] <blech_> okay, ben
[08:48] <blech_> ty dr :), i understand
[08:48] <Vraaghetmaar> sylvie_ succes :)
[08:48] <Ben64> no, recovery mode! you can get to it from grub (where you choose if you want to start ubuntu or windows)
[08:48] <dr_willis> bbl....
[08:48] <blech_> where is recovery mde?
[08:48] <blech_> oh i see
[08:48] <blech_> alright ill try that, im hoping it just reset the ubuntu half of the duel
[08:49] <Ben64> just come back here and we can guide you through it
[08:49] <blech_> so i reboot and choose recovery mode? and then come here?
[08:49] <Ben64> yeah
[08:49] <nasacj> hello, any one here?
[08:49] <Ben64> do you only have the one computer?
[08:50] <blech_> yes
[08:50] <DJones> nasacj: Yes, plenty of people here
[08:50] <k1l_> !details | nasacj
[08:50] <blech_> i screwed myself good lol
[08:50] <Ben64> blech_: oh, well irc isn't as easy when you don't have a gui in recovery mode...
[08:50] <blech_> i woldnt know what to do in recovery mode then
[08:50] <blech_> i use guis
[08:51] <Ben64> blech_: if you can remember two commands you can fix it
[08:51] <nasacj> This is the channel for Ubuntu support?
[08:51] <blech_> okay i can write them
[08:51] <Ben64> 1. mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /
[08:51] <blech_> ok
[08:51] <DJones> nasacj: It sure is
[08:52] <blech_> okay 1
[08:52] <Ben64> 2. usermod -a -G <your username> adm,admin,cdrom,sudo,dip,plugdev,lpadmin,sambashare <your username>
[08:53] <blech_> ty
[08:53] <Ben64> oh wait
[08:53] <blech_> k
[08:53] <Ben64> 2. usermod -a -G <your username>,adm,admin,cdrom,sudo,dip,plugdev,lpadmin,sambashare <your username>
[08:53] <blech_> okay ty
[08:53] <Ben64> then reboot and you should have sudo access
[08:54] <blech_> ill try, ty
[08:59] <nexima> hi all
[09:01] <blech_> ty ben but i dont think i know what to do. I went into recovery mode but there were many choices. Which one should i choose?
[09:01] <blech_> repair packges?
[09:02] <Ben64> what version of ubuntu
[09:02] <blech_> most recent
[09:02] <anuvrat> join #bodhi
[09:02] <svbito> Hi everybody
[09:03] <blech_> what will using the live cd accomplish?
[09:04] <Ben64> blech_: ok, choose root
[09:04] <blech_> okay, ty ill reboot
[09:05] <Ben64> blech_: i loaded up my 13.04 vm to see the options :)
[09:05] <blech_> can you type those 2 commands again?
[09:05] <blech_> pleaes
[09:05] <Ben64> 1. mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /
[09:05] <Ben64> might not be needed
[09:05] <Ben64> 2. usermod -a -G <your username>,adm,admin,cdrom,sudo,dip,plugdev,lpadmin,sambashare <your username>
[09:05] <blech_> ty
[09:05] <Ben64> if it says a group doesn't exist, remove it and try again
[09:12] <bitwize> My ubtuntu 12.04 install hangs up 2 minutes at startup due to "waiting for network configuration" this happens when I specify eth0 to be STATIC in /etc/network/interfaces, anyone that can push me in the right direction here? I want to rename my NIC and configure it to be static, but the 70-persistent-net.rules is never generated...
[09:13] <cousteau> Linux works.  I have ~5 GB of /usr/share and /lib/modules.  How do I tell Ubuntu that it's ok and that I don't need 20 kernel versions anymore?
[09:13] <blech_> Ben64,, ty but it says admin doesnt exist
[09:13] <cousteau> do I have to manually uninstall them, or is there a program for that?
[09:14] <Ben64> blech_: yeah i said if it said that to remove that group, so just take admin out of the list
[09:14] <blech_> rgr that, i will now
[09:14] <blech_> take out admin and adm?
[09:15] <raven_> can somoene tellme how to install java for firefox? its a .tar.gz file
[09:15] <raven_> i also have the .rpm file
[09:15] <raven_> which ever is easyer..
[09:15] <MonkeyDust> cousteau  try sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:16] <icedwater> raven_: What happens when you double-click the .tar.gz file?
[09:16] <icedwater> And, uh, where did you get those files?
[09:16]  * cousteau tries apt-get -s autoremove
[09:16] <raven_> it opens in the file manager
[09:16] <raven_> dont worry i found a tutorial :)
[09:16] <cousteau> MonkeyDust,   apt-get -s autoremove  does nothing
[09:16] <icedwater> raven_: still doesn't answer my question of where it was from :P
[09:17] <icedwater> The 'uh' was only because I realised I should have asked that first.
[09:17] <cousteau> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 19 not upgraded.
[09:17] <MonkeyDust> cousteau  try sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:18] <cousteau> wait; applying upgrades
[09:18] <raven_> ah i got it from the java website
[09:18] <raven_> but this tutorial seems to be working so far
[09:19] <icedwater> I see. The tutorial is also from the Java website?
[09:19] <Voi> since i installed ubuntu 13.04 it keeps crashing after about every 3rd boot; after booting up the mouse will lag/the screen will lag and on first programm start (for eg firefox, or whatever) it freezes and i cant even switch to shell mode, all i can do is kill my laptop
[09:19] <raven_> no
[09:19] <icedwater> I'm a little puzzled since you said RPM, and you're here, which suggests you should be using Ubuntu.
[09:19] <raven_> my tutorial im doing now is to install it though command line
[09:20] <raven_> i am using ubuntu
[09:20] <cousteau> raven_, good; it's usually easier to write tutorials as command line instructions
[09:20] <cousteau> they don't require a ton of screenshots
[09:20] <icedwater> Yup, does the Java website not provide a .deb download, though?
[09:20] <k1l_> raven_: so you are aware, that you dont have automatic security updates for java?
[09:21] <cousteau> and if there's something I hate, that's video tutorials
[09:21] <icedwater> cousteau: well, I take whatever help I can get. Granted, I favour the command line too.
[09:21] <k1l_> raven_: i mean even oracle suggest to use openjdk7 for ubuntu :/
[09:21] <raven_> i dont know what that means k1l but its installing :D
[09:21] <raven_> i have openjdk
[09:22] <raven_> but it doesnt work with firefox
[09:22] <blech_> Ben64, well i did as you instructed and all i got was the alphabet
[09:22] <cousteau> icedwater, the thing is that help transfer is easier in text form than GUI form
[09:22] <icedwater> raven_: You might have considered using one of the plugins from the repository first...
[09:22] <raven_> too late lol
[09:22] <cousteau> (specially via IRC or forums)
[09:22] <icedwater> cousteau: that I definitely agree with.
[09:22] <blech_> letters with dashes and explanations
[09:22] <cousteau> however that makes new linux users think that linux is hard because "you have to do everything via the command line"
[09:23] <icedwater> raven_: good, heh. Let me know if it works, then.
[09:23] <cousteau> but the truth is that "you get most help as command line because it's easier to help that way"
[09:24] <raven_> works perfect
[09:24] <dr_willis> given the extreamly unwieldy 'syntax' ive seen to walk people into finding where some obscure button is in some tab on an advanced dialog button on some weird control tool.. in windows.. L)
[09:24] <dr_willis> i prefer a simple 'sudo somecommand foo'
[09:24] <blech_> Ben64, ?
[09:26] <Ben64> blech_: ?
[09:26] <blech_> i did as you said but got the alphabet
[09:26] <Ben64> what does that mean
[09:26] <blech_> lots of letters with dashes and explanations
[09:26] <Ben64> you must not have typed it correctly
[09:26] <blech_> sorry may i have it again
[09:27] <Ben64> 1. mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /
[09:27] <cousteau> blech_, you got the help for a command
[09:27] <Ben64> 2. usermod -a -G <your username>,adm,cdrom,sudo,dip,plugdev,lpadmin,sambashare <your username>
[09:27] <cousteau> that's not "the alphabet", that's a list of options
[09:27] <Ben64> write it down or something
[09:27] <blech_> i had
[09:27] <blech_> yep i typed it like that, matches paper
[09:27] <Ben64> you know you have to literally type your username
[09:27] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, I got 2 adsl broadband connections both connected to a switch and my pc connected to the switch, is it possible to use both the internet connections at the same time ? like my pc decides which one is faster and uses that one ?
[09:27] <blech_> do i remove the <>
[09:27] <blech_> i did
[09:27] <vitimiti> o/
[09:27] <Ben64> 2. usermod -a -G ben64,adm,cdrom,sudo,dip,plugdev,lpadmin,sambashare ben64
[09:27] <blech_> yes i know
[09:27] <Ben64> like that
[09:27] <blech_> yes
[09:27] <cousteau> -h Shows help.   -V Shows version.   -v Verbose mode   -R Do stuff recursively.   etc
[09:27] <blech_> ill try again
[09:29] <cousteau> Is there a program or something to uninstall old kernel versions?  I don't feel like doing it manually
[09:29] <Ben64> bleachbit might
[09:30] <cousteau> and if there isn't, how would I do it kernel by kernel?
[09:30] <MonkeyDust> cousteau  there used to be ubuntu-tweak, not sure if it's still maintained
[09:30] <dr_willis> cousteau:  askubuntu,com has some scripts/cli commands to remove all but the current in use kernel
[09:30] <dr_willis> be carefull with thosse commands. ;)
[09:30] <cousteau> dr_willis, googling I found a command that involved dpkg | sed
[09:31] <cousteau> but I don't feel safe using regex for system maintenance
[09:31] <dr_willis> cousteau:  askubuntu.com had about 6 differnt 'cli' ways to do it.
[09:31] <Voi> my ubuntu 13.04 freezes on like every third boot _after_ it started up on ffirst programm start; any1 knows that issue? i cant find a fitting lunchpad bug report for that
[09:31] <dr_willis> or they described just using synaptic ;)
[09:31] <MonkeyDust> cousteau  http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[09:32] <cousteau> MonkeyDust, dr_willis, thanks, I'll try with that
[09:32] <dr_willis> im not sure if ubuntu-tweak has the remove old kernel features any more  - i havnet had ubuntu-tweak work properly for m ein ages
[09:32] <icedwater> Does anyone here know how to remove some languages from the grub menu in the live USB?
[09:32] <icedwater> I mean syslinux.
[09:32] <dr_willis> icedwater:  the live usb - uses syslinux i belive not grub.  :) and it would be in the very annoyingly complex syslinux config files on the usb.
[09:33] <cousteau> anyway, if I want to remove a specific kernel, what would be the command?  i.e. what package do I remove, and how do I make apt-get autoremove directly without needing a second call to it?  (if possible)
[09:33] <dr_willis> ive done it ages ago icedwater  but its been a long time. i greped through all the nested config files that seemed to calll each other
[09:33] <cousteau> (this is why I preferred aptitude over apt-get...  wonder if aptitude is already usable)
[09:33] <cousteau> !aptitude
[09:33] <blech_> okay Ben64 , it said cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later
[09:34] <cousteau> hey, ubottu maintainer, I think aptitude was fixed for multiarch
[09:34] <cousteau> at least on 12.04
[09:34] <Ben64> blech_: thats why you need the first line...
[09:34] <blech_> it didnt do nything
[09:34] <blech_> the first
[09:34] <icedwater> dr_willis: I know, right?! I "commented" out some languages in langlist and renamed them from xx.tr to _xx.trx, and I had some success.
[09:34] <blech_> i tried that to
[09:34] <Ben64> it does if typed correctly
[09:34] <blech_> mount -o remove,rw  /dev/null /
[09:34] <Ben64> mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /
[09:35] <blech_> so not remove?
[09:35] <Ben64> nope
[09:35] <blech_> did i make up remove?
[09:35] <Ben64> yep
[09:35] <blech_> lol k
[09:35] <blech_> ill try
[09:36] <icedwater> "some" meaning their entries in the menu were replaced with the language codes rather than the name strings
[09:36] <Ben64> it is proving very difficult to get him to type two lines correctly...
[09:36] <Pinnelot> could anyone help me with installing packages for latex?
[09:36] <icedwater> Like instead of "Deutsch" there was "de"
[09:36] <icedwater> Pinnelot: try #latex?
[09:36] <icedwater> Oh wait, sorry, hang on. Trigger finger :P
[09:36] <icedwater> Which packages did you need?
[09:36] <Pinnelot> okay
[09:37] <Whir> hi
[09:37] <Pinnelot> there are a few. acronym for example
[09:37] <Whir> I have a problem which is sshfs related, is that a place to ask?
[09:38] <icedwater> apt-cache search acronym latex produced texlive-latex-extra as one of the packages.
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> !ask | Whir
[09:38] <icedwater> Could you run dpkg -l | grep texlive and see if you get anything installed (ii at the start of the line) ?
[09:39] <Whir> k..so I am on a local work machine here..I can easily mount directories from my home server via sshfs to here..my question, how can I disconnect/unmount them? fusermount needs root which I dont have here
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> icedwater:  dpkg -l | grep -i texlive | grep ^ii
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> Whir  there's also #ubuntu-server
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> Whir: are they added in /etcfstab ?
[09:40] <dr_willis> the fusermount command requires the user to be in the fuse group i thought
[09:42] <Whir> ActionParsnip, no no, I just run an sshfs me@myserv:~/Music Music for example
[09:42] <blech_> ty Ben64 it appears i can do all the things with sudo i could not before. So now i just go ahead and setup the new account i made to be like the old?
[09:43] <Guest51667> I'm trying to follow this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[09:43] <anuvrat> hey I broke my apt :( http://pastebin.com/5J420vPg
[09:44] <Guest51667> I have lost my partition while reinstalling, so would that be of any help?
[09:44] <Ben64> blech_: now you can do whatever you want :D
[09:44] <blech_> great, ty
[09:44] <Dalle4> Hello, in ubuntu 13.04, is there another way to make the IP static?
[09:44] <Ben64> blech_: just try not to break sudo again... :)
[09:44] <Ben64> Dalle4: /etc/network/interfaces
[09:44] <music> I had asked before about running ubuntu 12.04 dual boot on presario cq-62 anyone have one of those??
[09:44] <blech_> may i tell you the two things i did before it broke? maybe you can tell me which you thnk caused it
[09:44] <Ben64> blech_: sure
[09:45] <Guest51667> I had two partitions one with the distro and the other with data. I have one which spans the entire hard disk. Is it anyway possible to recover the data using those guidelines (or anything else)?
[09:45] <blech_> first, i updated windows , second i had to cut power to the laptop because after updating windows it would not boot
[09:45] <Guest51667> I haven't overwritten any data so far. (except for the OS installation anyway)
[09:45] <abdel> hello guys I installed 13.04 ubuntu and everything is fine except for my headphones, it doesn't work when i connect my headphones
[09:45] <Ben64> Guest51667: look into testdisk
[09:45] <abdel> i need help asap
[09:45] <blech_> do yuo think the cut power corrupted ubuntu even though it wasnt booted
[09:45] <Guest51667> ok Ben64
[09:45] <Ben64> blech_: no, it was probably when you created the new user and deleted your old one
[09:46] <blech_> no no i mean, i had to create a new user because the original was glitching, do yuo think the hard reboot did it?
[09:46] <blech_> started it all
[09:46] <abdel> any body with idea on how to solve my headphone issue
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> abdel: why is that so urgent?
[09:46] <dr_willis> blech_:  i doubt if windows had anything to do with linux,. or the linux filesystem
[09:46] <blech_> so maybe the cutting power?
[09:46] <anuvrat> I broke my apt ... held packages error http://pastebin.com/5J420vPg , is a reinstall the only solution?
[09:47] <abdel> because i have a class online and i require to use the headphone
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> abdel: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[09:47] <dr_willis> blech_:  if the linux fs was not  in use when you did that.. then i dont see how.
[09:47] <abdel> let me check
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> abdel: run it all as one command in a terminal
[09:47] <blech_> so maybe it just went wrong i guess, because it worked fine till i updates windows, or cut power or ran a windows chedkdisk, oh well
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> blech_: you using Wubi?
[09:48] <blech_> no
[09:48] <dr_willis> i doubt if any of that had anything to do with the linux side
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> blech_: good :)
[09:48] <dr_willis> more likely some goofy user setting was the issue.
[09:48] <blech_> so maybe xubuntu just pooped?
[09:48] <blech_> lol
[09:48] <blech_> gosh i was s sure it was cutting power
[09:48] <abdel>  upload=true&script=true&cardinfo=                                                                                                                                                   │q
[09:48] <abdel> │ !!################################                                                                                                                                                  │
[09:48] <abdel> │ !!ALSA Information Script v 0.4.62                                                                                                                                                  │
[09:48] <abdel> │ !!################################                                                                                                                                                  │
[09:48] <FloodBot1> abdel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:48] <blech_> k
[09:48] <blech_> ty for the help, as always
[09:49] <dr_willis> or good old  pebkac... bye
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> abdel: copy the command and run it in a terminal, like I said
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> abdel: you click the link and pasted the webpage, didn't you
[09:50] <usuario_> hola
[09:50] <usuario_> soy manu
[09:50] <usuario_> jejejeje
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> abdel: just because whatever irc client renders a web link as a clickable link does NOT always mean you click it, try reading the context then react
[09:50] <usuario_> soy
[09:50] <usuario_> asin
[09:51] <abdel>  
[09:51] <abdel> Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=2b7b895e1e37c983a0074bc7f08d00ee3de6f810
[09:51] <FloodBot1> abdel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> abdel: see how different that is, the 2nd time you read, thought then acted and did the right thing
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> *think before you act*
[09:52] <anuvrat> I guess I will have to reinstall, as I am not able to attract anyone's attention. http://pastebin.com/5J420vPg
[09:52] <abdel> so what next Actionparsnip
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> abdel: try:   echo "options snd-hda-intel model=hp-dv5 enable_msi=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> abdel: reboot to test
[09:54] <abdel> av done that but it did nothing ....so should i reboot my pc now
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> abdel: yes, you need to reboot to apply it, simply changing a file does nothing
[09:55] <abdel> thanks will do that now and get back to u
[09:57] <blech_> why are there 2 task managers/
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> blech_  maybe from different DE's
[09:58] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: +1
[09:59] <silv3r_m00n> my network is like this, PC [09:59] <silv3r_m00n> is that possible ?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: look into connection bonding
[09:59] <blech_> ty MonkeyDust
[10:01] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip: bonding combines multiple nics, but i have only 1 nic
[10:01] <llutz> silv3r_m00n: so you would need a 3rd router/gateway   doing the bonding between switch and 2 existing routers
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: you can have a subnic with a sub interface.
[10:02] <silv3r_m00n> llutz: not possible from ubuntu directly ?
[10:02] <silv3r_m00n> subnic ?
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: your NIC can have multiple IPs
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: you'd have eth0  then eth0.0 and eth0.1
[10:03] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip: didnt know that, isnt it possible to just use 2 gateways ?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> sorry eth0:0 and eth0:1
[10:03] <abdel> hello Actionparsnip: av rebooted my pc but still my headphone is now working
[10:03] <silv3r_m00n> you mean create eth0.0 and eth0.1 connect each to separate router and then bond them together to form a eth0:3 and use it ?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: sure, it will godown the same bit of wire
[10:03] <abdel> but without the headphones the speakers are working fine except for my headphones
[10:04] <silv3r_m00n> ok, so first step how to create those subnics ?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> abdel: look online for: HP Pavilion dv6 alsa-base.conf     you will need to change that line you added to one which makes it work
[10:05] <abdel> could u please resend the line to me
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> abdel: try:  "options snd-hda-intel model=hp-dv5 enable_msi=1"    you will need to run:  gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf     to get write access
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> abdel: you will be messing with that line til you get sorted
[10:06] <icedwater> ActionParsnip: yes, but you should have highlighted Pinnelot with that dpkg/grep pipe :) Though I think packages named texlive should be few enough to not need further filtering.
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> icedwater: oh definately
[10:07] <icedwater> But yeah, for sanity and consistency that might help.
[10:16] <SteveBell> hi all. I did the following: download ubuntu 13.04 32bit. created a bootable USB stick (ms dos formatted) with UNetbootin. defaulted to boot from USB in bios. but when selecting the usb and hitting enter I get:
[10:16] <SteveBell> Realtek PCIe FE Family COntroller Series v1.22
[10:16] <SteveBell> PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable
[10:16] <SteveBell> PXE-M0F: Existing PXE ROM.
[10:17] <SteveBell> Operating System not found
[10:20] <AlbertJB> hi, i would appreciate some advice about purchasing an External 2GB HD for backup for Linux (from what I know, Western Digital is not the best option), I mean a disk that I would be able to format to ext4 etc.
[10:21] <CatKiller> AlbertJB: any drive will work in theory.
[10:21] <CatKiller> WD works well too
[10:21] <CatKiller> I personally like Seagate
[10:21] <digitalrao> use a tools that help you like http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[10:22] <AlbertJB> thanks CatKiller
[10:24] <AlbertJB> CatKiller, and what is best, format it to ext3 or ext4 for backup
[10:24] <LinuxAdmin> hi, i'm trying to block some traffic with ufw, but traffic do not block
[10:24] <AlbertJB> multimedia and all types of data
[10:24] <CatKiller> ext4 is newer, why not use ext4. It's all pretty similar anyways
[10:25] <cyclist_2> My 10.04 has suddenly developed a memory leak in 2 processes: polkitd and gnome-power-manager; regarding the latter, I can kill it an restart it; but the former is a little trickier to handle as is owned by root; anyway: I suspect that a recent security update has caused this and aim to choose a different kernel version from the one in use now when I next reboot; I already did a lot of research on the subject but all solutions tried did fai
[10:25] <AlbertJB> ok thanks a lot CatKiller
[10:25] <CatKiller> AlbertJB: You could also try newer FS like XFS etc
[10:25] <LinuxAdmin> on the file /etc/ufw/before.rules I have this line:
[10:26] <LinuxAdmin> -A ufw-before-forward -d 192.168.1.0/24 -j REJECT
[10:26] <AlbertJB> thank you I'll give it a look
[10:26] <LinuxAdmin> this do not block the packets
[10:26] <LinuxAdmin> what is wrong with this?
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> LinuxAdmin  it's called iptables, ufw is a frontend for it
[10:27] <LinuxAdmin> i know iptables, but as long as ubuntu have this frontend, I use it
[10:28] <cyclist_2> AlbertJB: I use Freecom and Seagate; of course I have to format them to ext3/4 [depending], but beyond that they behave OK; I do not know if Freecom has 2 GB capacity external hard disks, but Seagate has them and I use 2 of them; hope this helps you
[10:28] <LinuxAdmin> MonkeyDust, what could be wrong with before.rules file?
[10:28] <LinuxAdmin> I have that rule before ALLOW rules, so it should be blocked
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> LinuxAdmin  not sure, i'm not skilled enough with iptables, just know some basics
[10:29] <AlbertJB> thanks cyclist_2
[10:29] <cyclist_2> AlbertJB: np
[10:29] <LinuxAdmin> anyone in this channel can help?
[10:29] <LinuxAdmin> perhaps I will use iptables directly instead of ufw
[10:32] <SteveBell> hi all. I did the following: download ubuntu 13.04 32bit. created a bootable USB stick (ms dos formatted) with UNetbootin. defaulted to boot from USB in bios. but when selecting the usb and hitting enter I get:
[10:32] <SteveBell> Realtek PCIe FE Family COntroller Series v1.22
[10:32] <SteveBell> PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable
[10:32] <SteveBell> PXE-M0F: Existing PXE ROM.
[10:32] <SteveBell> Operating System not found
[10:32] <babarhaq> hi all, i am running 12.04 lts with oracle java 7. i can join webex meeting but cant c the presentations
[10:32] <SteveBell> can someone advice?
[10:32] <FloodBot1> SteveBell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:32] <AlbertJB> have a good day bye
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> SteveBell  10 people in ##pxe    50+ in #ipxe
[10:35] <SteveBell> MonkeyDust thanks for the hint. I have no clue what pxe is. But will try in those chans
[10:48] <whitehacker> HELLO EVERYBODY
[10:48] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[10:48] <icedwater> whitehacker: hello. This isn't the place for keyboard support, if your capslock key is stuck, please try ##overflow.
[10:48] <whitehacker> sorry
[10:50] <whitehacker> /Nickname whitehacker
[10:51] <whitehacker> somebody help me plz i want to register my Nickname and i forget the command to do it
[10:51] <Dr_willis> !regiester
[10:51] <DJones> !register | whitehacker
[10:51] <whitehacker> thx a lot
[10:52] <whitehacker> !register | whitehacker
[10:52] <Dr_willis> no one ever just reads what the bot says...
[10:52] <DJones> Dr_willis: That is very true
[10:55] <SteveBell> since I'm running into a wall with UNetBootin can someone recomment another tool for creating the bootable USB?
[10:56] <Dr_willis> pendrivelinux web site has doezns of alternatives SteveBell
[10:56] <CatKiller> SteveBell: On what platform? Linux?
[10:56] <Dr_willis> SteveBell,  or you can use 'dd' to image the iso striaght to usb
[10:56] <SteveBell> have OS X and win 7 available
[10:56] <rymate1234> I use an app called linuxlive
[10:56] <CatKiller> Use the default tool recommended on the ubuntu website for Windows
[10:56] <CatKiller> works extremely well
[10:56] <joetacos> how do i get pass the Ubuntu 13.04 installer it hangs after clicking 3rd party and download updates. and sometimes i get a black screen with text
[10:56] <CatKiller> also allows you to have a separate partition for live disk persistence
[10:57] <CatKiller> SteveBell: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[10:58] <CatKiller> SteveBell: To be honest though I think your problem is in your bios
[10:58] <CatKiller> it seems to be netbooting instead of booting from USB
[10:59] <CatKiller> Are you 100% positive you picked thr right USB drive? Most bios have many many USB drive options, only one is right
[10:59] <SteveBell> thanks all for your recommendations. I might just retry with the Universal USB installer recommended on ubuntu.com
[11:01] <rymate1234> joetacos: ?
[11:02] <joetacos> yea
[11:02] <rymate1234> What does the black screen with text say?
[11:03] <joetacos> cut here then some kernel error or bug thing
[11:03] <rymate1234> Oh dear
[11:03] <rymate1234> Sounds like something's wrong with the disk
[11:03] <rymate1234> Or USB
[11:03] <CatKiller> ....or most likely you have some hardware that's unsupported and causes a panic
[11:03] <CatKiller> happens often
[11:04] <CatKiller> There's a few machines on which you won't manage to install Ubuntu because some of the kernel drivers simply won't work
[11:04] <joetacos> i spent hours downloading it mulibletimes and copy it to a flash drive it boot up live fine
[11:04] <CatKiller> But you can definitely run the install disk verification
[11:05] <CatKiller> ah ok, sorry my bad I thought that's what you were doing (running a livecd)
[11:05] <CatKiller> It does that when you install
[11:05] <CatKiller> Sorry my bad
[11:05] <joetacos> yea
[11:05] <CatKiller> So what rymate1234 said is probably a better advice
[11:05] <rymate1234> :D
[11:05] <CatKiller> :p
[11:06] <joetacos> i think i had this problem with 12.10 but some how got around it. when 12.10 first came out i could not install it had to use arch for a while
[11:11] <majd> hey #ubuntu - i'm setting up nginx on a server. Running netstat, I found out that there are hundreds of ntpd process listening to random ports on the machine
[11:11] <majd> should i be worried?
[11:11] <rymate1234> NH
[11:11] <rymate1234> Nah
[11:11] <majd> running netstat -tunlp, i get hundred of lines that look like this:  udp        0      0 178.79.182.199:47101    0.0.0.0:*                           22609/ntpd
[11:12] <rymate1234> majd: That's just for network time
[11:12] <majd> rymate1234: yeah, but why are there so many of them?
[11:12] <flintwingel> majd: anything in /var/log/messages relating to ntp?
[11:12] <rymate1234> Maybe it connects to multiple servers
[11:13] <majd> flintwingel: nothing really - looks like this: http://dpaste.org/rYDq7/
[11:16] <majd> should i kill all those processes/what's the best way to do so?
[11:16] <Shogoot> Im quite new to php so bare with me :) Im a student and doing a internship... when a link has this syntax <a href="/?page=modules/product&id=436711"> does it point to a webpage called 436711 in a server sturcture module/product/436711.html/php ?
[11:17] <flintwingel> mjad: ntpd is just the timeserver daemon. It's possible it can't reach the timerserver you got configured and the processes aren't timing out properly but I'd expect to see something in /var/log/syslog. What happens if you kill them all? DO they respawn?
[11:17] <DJones> Shogoot: Probably a question for #php (or could be ##php) rather than the Ubuntu channel
[11:18] <flintwingel> SHogoot: no way to tell from URL - it depends entirely on how webserver is configured
[11:18] <majd> Shogoot: anything after the ? is parameters to a get request, but this is not the best place to ask this question, try #php      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertext_Transfer_Protocol#Request_methods
[11:19] <majd> flintwingel: i haven't try killing them, there are so many of htem! what's the best way to bulk-kill those processes?
[11:20] <Cay> Hello, I have 10 rackservers with Ubuntu 13.04. They are supposedly connected together with an internal network (a switch). The public Internet is available through the network device called em1. But I need to configure the internal network, the switch. I have tried for a couple of days but I fail still. Would someone feel like helping me toubleshoot this?
[11:20] <flintwingel> majd: killall ntpd
[11:21] <argyl> majd: Can you paste the netstat output?
[11:21] <argyl> majd: If they're all the same process 22609 then you could kill it
[11:22] <argyl> though it will probably show up again if the same reason still exists
[11:23] <sw> Hi. Is there a way to list CUPS printers and their locations from the command line?
[11:28] <otak> sw: have you looked at http://localhost:631/help/options.html ?
[11:29] <SteveBell> CatKiller: seems to work with the Universal USB Installer used on Win. yey :)
[11:29] <CatKiller> cool
[11:29] <sw> otak, No I'm looking for command line.
[11:30] <robotdevil> I have wireless card card broardcom BCM43225 which needs some STA driver that is enabled by jockey or whatever it is called now distro prior to 13.04. In 13.04 it seemed to be supported directly in the kernel now? (correct me if im saying this wrong). Anyway, I am having too many problems with 13.04 and would like to find out how to see the broadcom STA driver is not needed in 12.10 kernel 3.5.0-17-generic. Can someone explain how
[11:30] <robotdevil> I find this out
[11:30] <otak> on that page it says to use lpstat -p -d
[11:33] <danio__> hey guys! I have a .jar file that I want to send as a jar.gz file. I have no idea what this is about and I find it hard to google. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[11:33] <sw> otak, There is no location shown with that command, I tried it already.
[11:34] <danio__> tar.gz**
[11:34] <Myrtti> danio__: jar is already a zip package, so I don't know why you want to tar.gz it
[11:35] <danio__> Well I was instructed to send it in that format.
[11:36] <danio__> But I read it wrong, I thought it was jar.gz, this is much easier to find out via google.
[11:36] <kvothetech> danio__: tar czf file.gz yourjar or something like that
[11:37] <kvothetech> or just use gzip/gunzip if you don't want to tar it
[11:43] <xueyx> hi everyone
[11:43] <kvothetech> xueyx: hi
[11:43] <xueyx> I am frome china
[11:43] <kvothetech> mk whats your issue?
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> xueyx  that's nice -- this is the ubuntu support channel
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:52] <kvothetech> hmm must be hello hour
[11:53] <compdoc> hello
[11:54] <robotdevil> linux-image-extra-blah-blah-blah_*.deb what are these packages used for?
[11:54] <jatakk> hi
[11:54] <BluesKaj> kv  yeah i'n morning in North America
[11:55] <BluesKaj> kvothetech,^
[11:55] <kvothetech> BluesKaj: i'm in texas it's abou 7am lol
[11:55] <kvothetech> robotdevil: different kernels and stuff
[11:55]  * BluesKaj drinks more coffee
[11:55] <dekatrom> hi
[11:55] <kvothetech> robotdevil: like the sourc,e etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[11:55] <kvothetech> er didn't mean to do that.
[11:56] <dekatrom> i need someone to help me to connect xchat through a firewall
[11:56] <robotdevil> kvothetech: so they arent necessary for a working kernel?
[11:56] <BluesKaj> kvothetech, yeah it's 8AM in Ontario
[11:57] <kvothetech> robotdevil: as long, as you have a kernel installed you're fine
[11:58] <robotdevil> kvothetech: Im trying to follow this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds but when I look in kernels that suited for the particular distro, Im not seeing the extras package in many of the kernel packages
[11:58] <robotdevil> kvothetech: trying to see if problem exists in newer kernel
[12:00] <Cay> I'm trying to configure an internal network with 10 rackservers and a switch: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=p43spnkQ Any ideas anyone?
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> Cay  try #ubuntu-server
[12:00] <Cay> MonkeyDust, Thanks man.
[12:00] <Cay> I will do so.
[12:01] <Zekesdad> is there typically any speed difference between to ubuntu servers when mounting cifs/nfs?
[12:14] <somsip> Zekesdad: cifs/smb is slooow compared to nfs
[12:14] <Zekesdad> somsip: can you have both running on one machine?
[12:16] <sara_hello> hello boys one small question :ubuntu 12.04  invalid problem report Could not determine the package or source package name.
[12:16] <somsip> Zekesdad: sure
[12:21] <mi7> njkkk
[12:21] <mi7> \list
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> sara_hello: what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:25] <sara_hello> lotuspsychje thanks for replying , i cannot update my system
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> sara_hello: did you do it from terminal?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> sara_hello: if you run:  sudo apt-get update     is it smooth (close software centre first)
[12:27] <barnex> Hello.
[12:27] <cyan0hack> hi all
[12:28] <mi7> hello allll
[12:28] <sara_hello> lotuspsychje ActionParsnip actually whenever a problem comes i cannot report any problem due to this error sudo apt-get update also fails let me post u error
[12:28] <barnex> I'm trying to recreate what crypt-setup did on my installation, but with another drive.
[12:29] <barnex> And I formatted it as encrypted partition fine
[12:29] <sara_hello> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | barnex
[12:29] <sara_hello> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[12:29] <barnex> lotuspsychje: that's not it
[12:29] <barnex> lotuspsychje: I have encrypted my entire raid partition
[12:29] <kvothetech> barnex ok
[12:29] <sara_hello> Sorry Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error .if i click continue
[12:29] <barnex> lotuspsychje: with root and swap, everything besides /boot basicaly
[12:30] <barnex> Ok, so I did cryptsetup just fine, and now I'm at loss
[12:30] <barnex> because last time, there was a device created, /dev/md127
[12:30] <kvothetech> sara_hrllo anythinf in log
[12:30] <barnex> which acts as a source device for luksOpen I think
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> sara_hello  you want to use the chrome browser? if yes: there's also chrowmium-webbrowser in the repos https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[12:30] <barnex> and now I can't find anything comparable?
[12:31] <barnex> What i did was: cryptsetup --cipher aes-xts-plain64 --key-size 512 --hash sha512 --iter-time 5000 --use-random --verify-passphrase luksFormat /dev/md1
[12:31] <kvothetech> barnex yep now you open it then make an fs on it
[12:31] <tasse> Why is it impossible to access one's files in ubuntu one with a browser? I tried: Fedora, Windows, Arch each with chromium / firefox / iceweasel. Its always "Loading, please wait...".
[12:32] <kvothetech> barnex open it thrn youll get a device in dev/mapper
[12:33] <kvothetech> tasse timed out connection?
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> tasse  I just opened my /home/username by using chromium
[12:34] <Ycarene> What's the command to run an install configuration? (like when I install lirc and it asks me what remote I'm using.)
[12:34] <tasse> Its always loading, i tried it with 4 different computers, 3 different os and 3 different browser, thats a total of 36 configurations and NONE worked..
[12:34] <Ycarene> doh, nm, found it.
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> Ycarene  glad to help :)
[12:36] <Ycarene> :P
[12:37] <robotdevil> kvothetech: so it has extra kernel modules and I need it for a raedon chipset in this box.
[12:38] <kvothetech> robotdevil?
[12:38] <nyc-h0st> odd problem using start-stop-daemon, when specifying a umask via --umask it doesnt take, the process is started with a 0 umask...i can attach to the process afterwards and change the mask but thats not what i'm looking for...any ideas?
[12:38] <robotdevil> linux-extra
[12:38] <Diomedes> Hey there. Are there any programs that allow more advanced configuring of my Creative Soundblaster X-Fi than puvacontrol and alsamixer?
[12:39] <kvothetech> nychost set it in the config for that service like youre supposed to?
[12:40] <kvothetech> diomodes jackd has as much or more control than alsa and pulse
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> !tab | kvothetech
[12:41] <barnex> kvothetech: Ok, I already did that, but I don't know what to write in the /etc/crypttab? Do I need to add anything there?
[12:41] <kvothetech> zee
[12:41] <nyc-h0st> kvothetech service is utorrent, unfortunately due to their design the umask cannot be set in any config files
[12:41] <barnex> because my previous encrypted drive is in the cryptab with this /dev/dm127 device, which I have no idea when was created.
[12:41] <Diomedes> kvothetech: Thanks ,will try that.
[12:41] <barnex> It's based on /dev/dm0
[12:42] <kvothetech> monkeydust im on my phone no tab i know what tab is
[12:42] <barnex> Sorry, it's not /dev/dm127, it's /dev/mapper/md127_crypt
[12:43] <kvothetech> nyc utorrent is on linux?
[12:43] <nyc-h0st> kvothetech up
[12:44] <nyc-h0st> it defaults directories to 777...kind of anoying
[12:45] <kvothetech> then 1 dont use it (why use utorrent in linux anyway) or 2 deal with stupidity
[12:45] <kvothetech> you have other options that let you properly manage all the above
[12:45] <nyc-h0st> kvothetech, well i need a torrent client with a web gui, choice is kind of limited...torrentflux is no longer maintained
[12:46] <nyc-h0st> i'll get it to play ball
[12:46] <jrib> nyc-h0st: nyc-h0st doesn't rtorrent have a web interface?
[12:46] <kvothetech> rtorrent lets you do the above and has web front ends so does deluge and transmission rutorrent makes rtorrent like utorrent
[12:47] <nyc-h0st> i'll give it a shot then
[12:47] <nyc-h0st> thx
[12:47] <kvothetech> jrib almost all of the major ones do
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows why empathy would not work on znc bouncer?
[12:51] <kvothetech> lotus whats the error
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> kvothetech: not sure it just dont connect tru znc, straight on freenode it does
[12:53] <kvothetech> get a log or an error or something znc has logging so probably does empathy
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> ok
[12:55] <kvothetech> hell tcpdump it if you have to irc is plaintext
[13:01] <blodiak> hi everybody
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> hi blodiak
[13:06] <cfhowlett> blodiak, greetings
[13:06] <blodiak> am a new user of Ubuntu n I like
[13:07] <blodiak> it
[13:07] <blodiak> but wanna learnd again the command prompt
[13:07] <blodiak> need a advice
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> blodiak  start by keeping your question to one line
[13:08] <jatakk> blodiak: https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.debianhelp.co.uk%2Fcommands.htm&ei=zhSeUdTNKebQiAfFiYGQDg&usg=AFQjCNFXci7WGZClYYSgALAPNqox4JnenQ&sig2=HPFRHgUIUJN6duxnMAErsQ&bvm=bv.46865395,d.aGc&cad=rja
[13:08] <jatakk> oops
[13:08] <jatakk> blodiak: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/commands.htm
[13:08] <jatakk> There you go.
[13:09] <starbuck> hi, are there bigger 13.04 images (dvd images) with a size 4.7 GB?
[13:09] <Cruzer506> Am i the only one who finds Skype 4.2 pretty crappy?
[13:09] <blodiak> ok,thanx Jatakk n MonkeyDust
[13:10] <aneks> greetings
[13:10] <cfhowlett> aneks, greetings
[13:13] <majd> flintwingel: sorry i disappeared. Bad internet connection. When i do killall ntpd, the processes are respawned shortly after
[13:16] <Lajjla> So I fucked up my /etc/fstab and am now in recovery mode trying to fix it but I have no write permissions?
[13:16] <Lajjla> Where do I get those?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> !language | Lajjla
[13:16] <marun_> hi..
[13:16] <marun_> how do i know the URL of the web post? so that I can automate the web post in a script
[13:17] <SangeetKhatri> Hey everyone, i just installed emerald in lubuntu with compiz and the only problem is that i cannot see any themes in the "Emerald Settings Manager"
[13:17] <SangeetKhatri> rest everything is working fine
[13:17] <SangeetKhatri> including animations and other fun stuffs..
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> Lajjla  try sudo -e /etc/fstab
[13:18] <marun_> could somone pick my question please!
[13:18] <SangeetKhatri> mine too..
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> !patience | marun_
[13:18] <SangeetKhatri> :D
[13:18] <Pici> marun_: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[13:18] <CarlFK> Lajjla: I think the file system is mounted read only.  run mount to see.
[13:18] <marun_> I am trying to automate a task in ubuntu...
[13:19] <Pici> marun_: What is "the web post", you've asked a very vague question.
[13:19] <Lajjla> Yeah, it's a read only file system
[13:19] <Lajjla> Any way to change that?
[13:20] <CarlFK> Lajjla: yes.  you may want to exit and see if there was a recovery option about "mount / rw"  but I am looking up how to remount it...
[13:21] <SangeetKhatri> anyone with my emerald problem??
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> SangeetKhatri  emerald is not supported
[13:21] <SangeetKhatri> I just compiled and installed it..
[13:22] <Lajjla> CarlFK, the error is apparently to dow ith there being no final newline at the end of etc/fstab
[13:22] <ibo> hello! every one!
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> SangeetKhatri  then i guess you're the only person who still uses it
[13:23] <Lajjla> Found it mount -o remound,rw /
[13:23] <cfhowlett> ibo, greetings!
[13:25] <CarlFK> Lajjla: yep.  but with a t ;)
[13:25] <Lajjla> CarlFK, merely a minor setback.
[13:25] <Lajjla> Easily fixed
[13:27] <ande_Perkins> #ebooks
[13:30] <bart> Good afternoon from the netherlands
[13:30] <SangeetKhatri> Okay so suggest me some other window manager to use with Compiz and which works..
[13:31] <pinguy> Hi everyone how are you
[13:31] <Guest1939> I have xubuntu and my icons are not loading and other graphics as well
[13:31] <cfhowlett> pinguy, greetings
[13:31] <Pici> SangeetKhatri: huh? compiz is a window manager.
[13:32] <cfhowlett> Guest1939, settings>appearance   experiment with different settings to see if they resolve better
[13:32] <SangeetKhatri> But i can use all the compiz settings on emerald.
[13:32] <SangeetKhatri> seriously i am confused..
[13:32] <SangeetKhatri> first time with compiz
[13:32] <pinguy> I have a 2 TB hard drive, I left 600 GB empty for LInux. I try to install Linux (pinguy 12.04 and I tried Mint 14) and the installer tries to tell me my whole drive is empty and doesnt show my windows partition i want to leave alone and it doesnt see the 600 GB I made for linux
[13:33] <Guest1939> cfhowlett, I will take a look, but all I can see are the resolutions, I don't think compiz or something can load with an mx440
[13:33] <jordilopezamat> hello :-)
[13:34] <cfhowlett> jordilopezamat, greetings
[13:34] <Olionis1> hello to all
[13:35] <Olionis1> i have a question concerning the lshw output
[13:35] <pinguy> would anyone happen to know what to do?
[13:36] <Olionis1> when i do lshw i just get VGA compatible controllers, when i do lspci i can see the graphics. is this normal?
[13:36] <Pici> pinguy: we don't support pinguy or mint here. Only Ubuntu.
[13:37] <jordilopezamat> I 've just created a bootable USB with  Ubuntu 12 xxx alternate xxx .iso using Unetbootin... which after booting it could not find the contents of the "CD" it was installing from ¿what am i missing in the process ?
[13:40] <jordilopezamat> Additionally i tried to add the following line " cd-rom detect/try-usb=true " as per suggested here http://tinyurl.com/prk9vtj with no success ! :-(
[13:41] <jordilopezamat> thanks beforehand for your support :-)
[13:45] <xvilo> hey there
[13:45] <xvilo> i hope somebody can help me?
[13:45] <xvilo> i hope somebody can help me?
[13:45] <xvilo> i'v got a mac from a friend
[13:45] <xvilo> the mac partition is broken
[13:46] <xvilo> and i installed ubuntu on it!
[13:46] <xvilo> now i need to have the
[13:46] <xvilo> harddrive hfs+ mounted
[13:47] <evopilot> hi everyone, what is the 'copy' command in terminal, windows uses copy but ubuntu doesn't use copy..
[13:47] <Pici> evopilot: cp
[13:47] <evopilot> thnx
[13:47] <Cruzer506> xvilo:
[13:47] <Cruzer506> Open Disk Utility under Applications -> Utilities Select the volume to disable journaling on. Choose Disable Journaling from the File menu. (On later Mac OS versions you'll have to hold down the option button when you click the File menu. Or if you like Apple+J)
[13:49] <xro> Hi, anybody has news about bug 1180297 ? i cannot use empathy and facebook together.... And the workaround is not acceptable (transmit credential through HTTP)...
[13:50] <xomrk> hi can someone can say why this not working? python
[13:50] <xomrk> liczba="0b11"
[13:50] <xomrk> print(liczba)
[13:50]  * Bsims laughs you know you are a linux addict when you install a entire cygwin just for one program
[13:51] <xomrk> print(int(liczba))
[13:51] <xomrk> *
[13:51] <somsip> xomrk: try #python
[13:52] <udhayaraj> is there any chat software like yahoo messenger
[13:52] <ddssc> hi whats the best way to install java in server ubuntu (terminal only) ?
[13:54] <TraN> good day people :) strange question perhaps, but is it possible to copy text/variables from command line (using  echo "$a" | xclip -selection clipboard  ) and then paste it into a text field of gui application (like Konversation) using commands? or am I stuck with ctrl+v/right click->paste ?
[13:54] <TraN> alternatively using some kind of script?
[13:54] <SonikkuAmerica> TraN: Use Ctrl+Shift+C to copy from a terminal, and Ctrl+Shift+V to paste into one.
[13:54] <RxDx> please, why my /etc/network/interfaces is empty? I mean, wheres the ubuntu network configuration file?
[13:56] <SonikkuAmerica> !network
[13:56] <SonikkuAmerica> RxDx: ^
[13:58] <TraN> SonikkuAmerica: thats not quite what I want to do, maybe im bad at explaining.. I want to be able to copy a string to clipboard, using xclip, then I want to be able to paste the clipboard content into a gui text field (any application really, Konversation, gedit, firefox). The idea then is to create a keyboard shortcut that will first copy the content of a variable (I have this part covered) and then paste it into the currently selected text field (this is
[13:58] <TraN> where I need help)
[13:58] <TraN> if its even possible, that is.
[13:58] <th0r> TraN: I don't think you are going to find that possible
[13:59] <RxDx> SonikkuAmerica, thanks
[13:59] <TraN> th0r: thats kind of what I was afraid as well, but i thought id ask :)
[13:59] <th0r> TraN: you can pass a url to a browser, or a filename to an editor, but there is no way to know ahead of time what field is expecting input when you open a program so filling out any kind of 'form' is not possible
[14:00] <ibo> i have a asus eeepc 1001px and i did install easypeasy based on ubuntu 10.04 ldts and the internal microphone wasn't working , after i did look up the forums i did try everething and did not work so i diceded to compiled the last kernel 3.9.3 as the last option(my first time) i did it and the micrphone is working! :), BUT NOW MY WEBCAM DOESN'T WORK :(
[14:00] <ibo> any idea?
[14:00] <SonikkuAmerica> ibo: 10.04 is no longer supported; you need to upgrade to 12.04
[14:01] <SonikkuAmerica> !10.04
[14:01] <cfhowlett> ibo, see lubuntu or xubuntu ... both are optimized for low / old spec machines
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> how come i need to stop gnome screensaver deamon before xscreensaver starts to work<?
[14:01] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: (The EeePC is that old?)
[14:01] <ibo> okay thanks
[14:02] <ibo> i do like the look of easypeasy
[14:02] <CanadianPirate> SonikkuAmerica, the EeePc is low spec
[14:02] <CanadianPirate> SonikkuAmerica, I have an old eeepc 701 that I use all the time
[14:02] <CanadianPirate> It is running Crunchbang right now
[14:02] <SonikkuAmerica> CanadianPirate: True... I thought it would run Unity though... it doesn't?
[14:02] <CanadianPirate> I am not sure
[14:02] <CanadianPirate> I have not tried yet
[14:03] <CanadianPirate> It's  a tiny screen
[14:03] <CanadianPirate> 7" screen. Although on a 10" it's ok
[14:04] <lnxslck> who tests Ubuntu? users community ? or canonical employees?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica, in computer years?  I'd have to say yes
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: all
[14:04] <SonikkuAmerica> CanadianPirate: Gee. 7"... I had a WM8650 Android netbook from some Chinese outfit once... lol
[14:05] <sylar_5> hello, i'm writing a daemon, which monitors a folder and reacts to certain files. where do i put the executable script (NOT the init script): /bin or /usr/bin ?
[14:05] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, but are there canonical employees dedicated to testing ubuntu?
[14:06] <simpleuser> Hello, I'm using pysox in this python script : http://dpaste.org/K4Win/ Here is the error I get : http://dpaste.org/MQrgx/ ( "7f809c41a000-7f809c41b000 rw-p 00010000 08:12 13770421                   /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libva.so.1.3200.0Aborted (core dumped)") Any clue ?
[14:06] <Squarism> Hey, in "unity" i only can set proxy for ports 80/443/21 and (socks?!). What if i want to proxy a specific port? Is there some nice command for that?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Squarism: you can use export to set proxies if you want
[14:09] <Squarism> ActionParsnip, oh ok? Like how?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: well, as canonical make ubuntu. I expect there to be canonical employees who are testers
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Squarism: here is how I do it in Lubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5693796
[14:11] <Squarism> ActionParsnip, Well thats for specific protocols. What if u wanna do it per port?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Squarism: not sure there matey
[14:12] <ibo> cfhowlett do you think that there is a way to solved in easypeasy because i do like the looking, and they made it up for eeepc specialy so it was working the webcam, but i'm thinkig about lubuntu that did work well in a pentium 3
[14:14] <cfhowlett> ibo, can't speak on EZ as I've never used it.  But 10.04 is end of life.  You owe it to yourself to install a supported OS.  12.04 is Long Term Support.  I recommend l/x/ubuntu 12.04.
[14:14] <drpoo> how to I make a compiled program accessible to the PATH of all users ??
[14:14] <Braden`> Hello
[14:14] <Braden`> Is there a way to do a custom install?  E.g. select which packages you want and don't want when installing from the cd?
[14:14] <cfhowlett> brad, greetings
[14:15] <th0r> drpoo: put it in /opt and put a link in /usr/local/bin
[14:15] <ibo> cfhowlett okay thanks
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> kvothetech: still here mate?
[14:15] <sylar_5> hello, i'm writing a daemon, which monitors a folder and reacts to certain files. where do i put the executable script (NOT the init script)?
[14:15] <drpoo> th0r, do I need to modify every user's .bashrc?
[14:15] <Braden`> Anyone?
[14:16] <th0r> drpoo: shouldn't unless the 'new' ubuntu has changed things
[14:16] <drpoo> th0r, 10.04 here, so I dont think so
[14:16] <drpoo> th0r, thnx!
[14:17] <th0r> drpoo: I keep several programs installed in folders in /opt, and link them so I don't have to change the menu every tijme they are updated
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: you can do a minimal install hen build up from there
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: it installs a CLI based system with kernel, drivers, bootloader and package system
[14:17] <Braden`> ActionParsnip:  How do I do that?
[14:18] <Braden`> I am at the install screen
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> what would cause this error: _connection_connect_ready: idle_server_connection_connect failed: Unacceptable TLS certificate after empathy connecting znc bouncer
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: its a different ISO which is drastically smalle
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> *smaller
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: its about 30Mb for the ISO :)
[14:20] <flan_suse> Anyone here using the xorg-edgers PPA?
[14:20] <nube_> hello
[14:20] <Braden`> ah
[14:20] <nube_> Can someone assist me with an installation of ubuntu
[14:20] <loryyalone> aiii...
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> !ask | nube_
[14:21] <nube_> Ok. I have installed ubunto 13.04 from a live cd that I burnt. It seemed to install fine. I install to a partition adjacent to a windows 7 install (I have only 1 HDD). However when I start my computer it auto boots to windows -- no option to boot into ubunto
[14:21] <flan_suse> I have been using and updating from the xorg-edgers PPA with no issues, until yesterday. Now whenever I try to watch a video (VLC) or play a game, I get this error message: "Gen6+ requires Kernel 3.6 or later."
[14:22] <HENDRIX_RADEK> hi
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | nube_
[14:22] <loryyalone> aiii....i want to ask
[14:22] <vitimiti> hi o/
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> flan_suse: I suggest you inform the PPA maintainers then
[14:24] <nube_> Ok, I seemed to have followed these instructions -- I installed Ubuntu afte rwindows, and selected the manual option. I created two partitions for ubuntu - one for the root and on efor the swap
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> nube_: the OS is called Ubuntu, not Ubunto
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:25] <loryyalone> what the name of mp3 player sofftware ?? plz
[14:25] <nube_> ActionParsnip: yes, sorry
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> loryyalone: they all will play MP3 once you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> loryyalone: they all (except vlc if memory serves) use a central store of codecs
[14:25] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip: I found no IRC channel or theirs. They only use email?
[14:26] <nube_> So what have I done wrong?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> flan_suse: likely, yes
[14:26] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip: Okay.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> nube_: sounds like you didn't install grub to the MBR, if you boot to the live cd you can use the omgubuntu guide called 'sticking it to grub'
[14:26] <noobuntu> loryyalone install ubuntu-restricted-extras from software manager or sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras from the terminal. After that rhythmbox will play your mp3s
[14:26] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip: (Recently found out I'm not the only one with this issue. A recent update on the PPA did this to others as well.)
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> nube_: loose windows once and for good, and single install ubuntu, you will be amazed!
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> flan_suse: the xorg edgers is not for general use, it is not stable
[14:27] <nube_> lotuspsychje: I am using a loaned computer, and the windows partition belongs to someone else
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> flan_suse: the PPA page states this quite heavily
[14:27] <nube_> I want to install ubuntu on a separate partition so  I don't interfere with their data
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> nube_: follow what ActionParsnip just pasted to you
[14:29] <loryyalone> i use backtrak 5 r3
[14:29] <nube_> ok
[14:29] <nube_> brb
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> loryyalone: bt isnt supported here sorry
[14:30] <cfhowlett> !backtrack|loryyalone,
[14:30] <carnau> Hi there! I've just installed Ubuntu 13.04 and want to set my 3 monitors as desktop. I've tried using the menu, but when I switch to 5760x1080, all unity panels dissapear, so I can't do anything. Restarting doesn't help, because when I log in, only the background desktop appears. I have an ATI 6870. Is there anything I can do?
[14:30] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip: I'm aware of that, but unless I use it, I cannot run many of the games I purchased.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> carnau: did you install theradeon proprietary driver?
[14:31] <SonikkuAmerica> !backtrack | loryyalone
[14:31] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip: It was working since day 1, until just yesterday.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> flan_suse: what games?
[14:31] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip: From the Humble Bundles.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> flan_suse: ive never seen humblebundle require xorg edgers at all
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> flan_suse: it may suggest it though....
[14:32] <loryyalone> i don't have a mp3 player n i want to install it
[14:32] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip: Either they don't run, or they do, but they are slow and sluggish, unless I use xorg-edgers + enable s3tc.
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> loryyalone: your OS is not supported here
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> loryyalone: ask in #backtrack-linux
[14:33] <carnau> ActionParsnip, no, I've tied with the default one. Then tried the one called flgx-extras, selecting it from the menu.
[14:33] <carnau> same behaviour
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> carnau: if you install xfce4 as a package then log off and log into the XFCE session, is it ok?
[14:34] <carnau> can't without reboot, no buttons or windows.
[14:34] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip: Some games require very little, but others (Shank, Bastion, Psychonauts, et al) require more.
[14:34] <flan_suse> ActionParsnip: This is an Intel video laptop, not Nvidia or AMD.
[14:34] <loryyalone> oh ya... thank u
[14:35] <carnau> I had 12.04 with 3 monitors as well, maybe I have to dig a little more. in fact, I don't want to switch to XFCE, because I'm used now to Unity
[14:36] <nube_> Ok, I am now running live ubunto from a cd
[14:36] <nube_> where do I find 'omgubuntu' ?
[14:37] <carnau> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/
[14:37] <foo357> Hello, I have a computer running 12.04 LTS where I need to build the network card driver, when I run make I get a complaint about asm/system.h missing, how should I solve this?
[14:37] <nube_> Ok, but this is a news website. I want to be able to boot from my ubuntu install and apparemtly I have a problem with GRUB
[14:38] <flan_suse> foo357: You installed the kernel-headers package?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> nube_, boot your live cd/usb.  install grub to from there.
[14:38] <nube_> cfhowlett: I am booted from the live cd
[14:38] <nube_> how do I install grub?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> !grub>nube_,
[14:38] <SonikkuAmerica> nube_: Try adding the Boot Repair PPA (ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair), updating, installing boot-repair and running it.
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> nube_: find the page I said, it's on that page. if you search the web at large, you will find it
[14:38] <cfhowlett> !grub|nube_,
[14:38] <foo357> flan_suse: yes I believe so, a lot of linux(something)-header
[14:39] <cfhowlett> nube_, see the restore grub option
[14:39] <foo357> flan_suse: packages installed, I mean
[14:39] <flan_suse> foo357: Hm.
[14:39] <nube_> So I need to run another ISO? Can I simply try reinstalling ubuntu? What could have gone wrong?
[14:39] <nW44b> hello, i got a problem during installation. I'm using a bootable usb key, with an home made ubuntu, i just putted a few packages more … On the first install, i got eth0, so it's correct. Second install i got eth1, third install i got eth2, … Is it because of the persistant mode ? I let a few Mo for this on the key …
[14:40] <flan_suse> foo357: Which network driver / source?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> nube_, another iso?  no.  unless the one you have is faulty ...
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> nube_: you could try a reinstall.
[14:40] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|nube_,
[14:40] <nube_> ubottu: I already verified the checksum
[14:40] <cfhowlett> nube_, check your iso with md5sum ... takes about 60 seconds
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> nube_: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=omgubuntu+sticking+it+to+grub
[14:40] <nube_> my image is perfect
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> nube_: top link......
[14:40] <nube_> I installed, and chose the manual option
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> nube_: have you never searched the web before?
[14:41] <carnau> nube_, I always use this software to repair grub, take a look: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[14:42] <AlexM_> uses backtrack, yet does not know how to get mp3 going... What has this world come to -_-
[14:42] <nube_> Ok, I will try reinstalling as I don't see why my grub should need repair since I just fresh installed it
[14:42] <flan_suse> foo357: Is it a ralink?
[14:42] <nube_> last time I tried Ubuntu was 5 years ago and it was a nightmare. I heard now that it was in a usable state
[14:42] <foo357> flan_suse: Broadcom NetLink BCM5778
[14:42] <nube_> So like windows, or macos, it should just work after install
[14:42] <carnau> nube_ it is
[14:43] <nube_> Ok, I will try reinstalling it
[14:43] <flan_suse> foo357: If you install jockey-gtk, and run it, does it show available drivers to install?
[14:43] <foo357> flan_suse: by the way I have no asm/ directory in Include/, only asm-generic/ but it doesn't contain a system.h file
[14:43] <nube_> brb
[14:43] <carnau> me too
[14:43] <flan_suse> foo357: jockey-gtk is called "Additional Drivers" or "Hardware Drivers"
[14:43] <dsdsglkndsg> I seem to be having problems with booting from usb on my new motherboard. The weird thing is it WAS working and now it doesn't work. I tried resetting the bios settings and that didn't work. The usb drive is set as top priority harddrive, and the harddrives are set to top priority for boot. What happens it the usb asks if i want to try ubuntu or install, I click try, and then it complains 'unable to find medium containing a live 
[14:44] <flan_suse> foo357: This is a wired card, not wireless, and it has no working driver out of the box?
[14:44] <foo357> flan_suse: I only see two drivers for the nvidia graphics card
[14:44] <flan_suse> foo357: I would install jockey-gtk and see if it finds something.
[14:45] <flan_suse> foo357: Dang, nevermind then.
[14:45] <foo357> Fleck: yes wired
[14:45] <flan_suse> foo357: Can you pastebin the output of: lspci -v
[14:45] <flan_suse> foo357: You'll see a section for the network card device.
[14:46] <sere>  dsdsglkndsg  the usb os could not have copied right.. or could have gotten damaged aka files got deleted or something
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> what could cause this error: _connection_connect_ready: idle_server_connection_connect failed: Unacceptable TLS certificate after empathy connecting znc bouncer?
[14:49] <slackerr> hi all. trying to compile lastest mysql-workbench-gpl on ubuntu 13.04. configure fails with 'configure: error: Python C development headers/libraries not found'. I installed all-python-related stuff, but this issue is still exists. I know, this is software-related question, I googled all around, but maybe some experienced user may helps me?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, which znc bouncer ?
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: znc.in
[14:50] <memand> If I install ubuntu onto a flash drive, can I then make it so that it is 1: protected by truecrypt and 2: able to store whatever changes I make on the system? The reason I ask is that I'd like to make a safe enviroment to store my offline BTC wallet
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: empathy says it needs trusted certificate
[14:51] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, there seems to be  ddos attacks against my znc /trekweb in the last 24 hrs , just connect anyway
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: tnx for info mate
[14:53] <rosko> memand: you can do it with luks instead of truecrypt. search luks usb linux boot
[14:53] <cfhowlett> memand, yes.  multiple tutorials are online
[14:54] <BluesKaj> totesmuhgoats, I meant , there may be ddos attacks on znc bouncers in general
[14:54] <memand> cfhowlett: k, thx :)
[14:54] <policiazz> hello
[14:54] <foo357> flan_suse: http://pastebin.com/EXduwwKY
[14:55] <cfhowlett> policiazz, greetings
[14:55] <memand> rosko: What would the advantages/disadvantages be of using LUKS over Truecrypt?
[14:56] <Sign> hello everyone
[14:56] <Squarism> Hey, in "unity" i only can set proxy forward for ports 80/443/21 and (socks?!). What if i want to forward a specific port to procy? Is there some nice command for that?
[14:56] <serdotlinecho> Hi guys, I'm having a problem to connect with weechat. http://i.imgur.com/W5zqELm.png . I'm typing this on xchat and can connect to freenode. This is the first time i'm trying weechat :(
[14:56] <cfhowlett> Sign, greetings
[14:57] <JoeyJoeJo> Is there a way to set ubuntu not to check my root filesystem on boot?
[14:58] <Sign> is anyone in here familiar with Mkahawa Cyber Management?
[14:58] <memand> serdotlinecho: check this wiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WeeChat and I'd recommend #weechat for questions about weechat ;)
[14:58] <sylar_5>  hello, i'm writing a daemon, which monitors a folder and reacts to certain files. where do i put the executable script (NOT the init script)?
[14:59] <blob4000> hey all
[14:59] <blob4000> is it possible to upgrade to 13.10 daily, then revert down to 12.04 if it doesn't improve hardware stability?
[14:59] <litswillfad> hi
[15:00] <litswillfad> 12.04
[15:00] <policiazz> hi
[15:00] <IdleOne> blob4000: no
[15:00] <blob4000> i have an asus ux31e ultrabook that works perfectly using the install (wifi, everything) but then when i boot into 13.04 things just don't work (touchpad too)
[15:00] <blob4000> *during the install
[15:01] <soee> how can i zip all files with hidden also ?
[15:01] <rosko> memand: I never tried booting with truecrypt.  LUKS was better known in my community.  I use these scripts (not boot related) http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/EncryptedFilesystem/Scripts
[15:02] <blob4000> how can i try out the latest linux kernel on ubuntu, and have the ability to revert back if something breaks?
[15:03] <Hawkerz> has anyone else become extremely frustrated with nullmailer?
[15:03] <memand> rosko: k, a little google'ing has let me know that LUKS support WAY more cipher than Truecypt, but I can't find out whether it suports cascading multiple ciphers...
[15:04] <Hawkerz> more significantly, can I just delete nullmailer?
[15:09] <memand> ?_?
[15:10] <__isaacdl__> users
[15:13] <gaelfx> recently my fan started coming on even during light loads and it won't turn off until the computer is turned off or is put to sleep, also the fan is blowing out relatively cool air. How can I diagnose/fix this problem?
[15:14] <gaelfx> I think it started after the most recent kernel update, if that's relevant at all
[15:16] <gaelfx> test
[15:16] <th0r> gaelfx: boot into an earlier kernel and see if that fixes the problem
[15:17] <karthakon> /quit
[15:17] <SteveBell> hi all I managed to successfully install ubuntu 13.04 on a toshiba netbook NB 305. it was running fine. now all I get when I try to boot is a boot selection. when I select ubuntu all I get is a blinking line (like in terminal) at  the top left of the screen. nothing more. any ideas what  could be going on here?
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | SteveBell
[15:19] <SteveBell> thanks both for the reply. wow, looks like I'll have a lot to read :)
[15:20] <memand> rosko: I've found this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1208384.html guide too doing it with LUKS where they recommend booting an install cd and having the HDD unplugged so that the cd would only see the USB stick and intall GRUB and everything onto that... It just seems to me that there must be a more "sane" way to do it?
[15:25] <hawa> i messed up my lamp-server... i dont know what i did... i want to start from scratch... so i want to remove my lamp-server... i installed it without tasksel with this command... sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[15:26] <memand> hawa: sudo apt-get remove lamp-server
[15:26] <hawa> doesnt work
[15:27] <memand> O_o how so?
[15:27] <hawa> i dont knw... that's the first thing i tried...
[15:27] <hawa> that's the reason i am here...
[15:28] <zykotick9> hawa: fyi, if you really want to start fresh, use ".. apt-get purge foo .." to remove config files
[15:28] <memand> ^
[15:29] <hawa> well i installed lamp server as lamp-server^
[15:29] <hawa> but i think i have to remove bit by bit
[15:29] <hawa> like php sql and apache differently
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> SteveBell  in time, you'll be the one giving answers and advice to others
[15:31] <Milan-86> Hi all! Why Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu 13.04 causes Kernel panic when Uubntu is booting?
[15:31] <hawa> hey thanks... that purge thing worked...
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> !nvidia | because nvidia doesnt like linux
[15:32] <hawa> milan-86 is it the black screen problem?
[15:32] <bb23> hi - what is the ubuntu touch channel?
[15:32] <DJones> !touch | bb23
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> bb23  #ubuntu-touch
[15:32] <SteveBell> MonkeyDust hehe I wish I was that positive on my learning curve :P it seems the older you get the slower you adapt to change which is frustrating
[15:32] <Milan-86> hawa: yes, black screen and white text
[15:32] <bb23> thanks MonkeyDust
[15:33] <hawa> with invalid rom content one???
[15:33] <hawa> well i have nvidia and i had that problem once... (if it is the same problem)
[15:33] <michaelaguiar> is there a command to get the amount of free memory on my server?
[15:33] <michaelaguiar> free -m but with total - cache, for the real amount?
[15:34] <hawa> i opened it in recovery mode and installed bumblebee it worked...
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> michaelaguiar: the top left is the total physical ram
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> michaelaguiar: the left value on the middle row is the actual used ram
[15:34] <zykotick9> free memory, is wasted memory ;)
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: very
[15:34] <michaelaguiar> ActionParsnip: right, for "total"
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> !atemyram | michaelaguiar explains it
[15:35] <michaelaguiar> so under "used" next to - / + buffers/cache is the actual used?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> michaelaguiar: yes that is the actual used amount (not buffers)
[15:35] <michaelaguiar> ActionParsnip: Well I was wondering if I can get just the free amount, total - buffers, with one command
[15:36] <michaelaguiar> the reason is, I want to use Panic's Status Board - and want to build a quick script that will give me the amount of free memory
[15:36] <michaelaguiar> so I want to get that number out of there, know what I mean?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> michaelaguiar: you can grep and awk the output to get what you want
[15:37] <michaelaguiar> ActionParsnip: Would you mind giving me an example?  I'm fairly new with using grep and awk
[15:38] <llutz> michaelaguiar: free -m|awk '/+ buffers/ {print $NF "MB"}'
[15:39] <michaelaguiar> llutz: awk: line 1: regular expression compile failed (missing operand)
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> michaelaguiar: freeram=`free -m | grep buffers/cache | awk {'print $3'}`; echo $freeram
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> michaelaguiar  remove the +
[15:39] <llutz> michaelaguiar: free -m|awk '/\+ buffers/ {print $NF "MB"}'
[15:39] <michaelaguiar> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[15:40] <michaelaguiar> MonkeyDust: Thanks, that did it to
[15:40] <michaelaguiar> llutz: thanks
[15:40] <jgornick> Hey guys, running 12.04 and I am wondering how I can have upstart register my new upstart script I've created in /etc/init. Any ideas?
[15:40] <nube_> Ok, just reinstalled ubuntu 13.04 and now grub seems to work
[15:40] <llutz> michaelaguiar: what LANG are you using that removing the + works?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> michaelaguiar: totalram=`free -m | grep Mem | awk {'print $2'}`; echo $totalram
[15:40] <michaelaguiar> ActionParsnip: so I am using 149 MB.  What if I want to get the decimal as well?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> michaelaguiar: play with the value in the awk, you will see what it does
[15:40] <michaelaguiar> llutz: free -m|awk '/ buffers/ {print $NF "MB"}'   -- this worked
[15:41] <nube_> however so far my experience is pretty disappointing - the graphics performance is utter shite
[15:41] <nube_> moving windows, opening applications, etc., and the graphics lag and stutter
[15:42] <nube_> this is a brand new PC that runs windows 8 perfectly
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> nube_: what video chip do you use?
[15:42] <llutz> michaelaguiar: which is odd, since it doesn't do here
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> nube_: newness is moor
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> *moot
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> nube_  try a lighter DE, lxde or xfce
[15:42] <nube_> it's an AMD discrete chip
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> nube_: so its a switchable GPU?
[15:42] <nube_> i think so
[15:42] <nube_> how can i find out exactly what it is
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> nube_: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display       do you see an Intel and an AMD GPU?
[15:43] <culpn8r> is there a trivial way for me to create a separate partition and move my home directory to it? i know it was an option during install
[15:43] <tacomaster> culpn8r: look in to the comand dd and use a distro like gparted to make the changes
[15:44] <nube_> can i spam
[15:44] <nube_> the output of that command
[15:44] <auronandace> !paste | nube_
[15:44] <nube_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5694075/
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> nube_: just state if you have both GPUs, its enough
[15:44] <tacomaster> culpn8r: you will have to update fstab as well
[15:45] <tacomaster> culpn8r: not really sure if ubuntu comes with a tool to do it for you or not
[15:45] <nube_> just seems to list the radeon
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> nube_: its just an AMD chip, install the proprietary driver and it will run better
[15:45] <nube_> ok; how do I install the driver?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> nube_: you would get the same with a fresh install of Windows, you are using the open source driver which is not running tyour GPU as fast as it can]
[15:45] <culpn8r> also, is it normal for my laptop to get extremely hot? im using the proprietary driver for an AMD card
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> nube_: in the system settings (top right) you will see additional drivers there
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> nube_: you simply cannot evaluate an OS when you haven't even begun to configure it
[15:47] <nube_> ok, fair enough. I open system settings; top right icon is Ubuntu One
[15:47] <tacomaster> culpn8r: if a laptop is getting "Extremely Hot" you might need to find a better place for it to get more air because you will mess up your hardware if it gets too hot
[15:47] <culpn8r> tacomaster: i just have it on a kitchen table
[15:48] <tacomaster> anything blocking the airways on the laptop
[15:48] <nube_> where do I go from here?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> nube_: http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-ati-amd-catalyst-drivers-in.html
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> nube_: you know when you get issues in an OS, do you ever search a little online, try and find some answers?
[15:49] <tyrog> nube_: What do you want to install?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> nube_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285989/ubuntu-raring-13-04-x64-amd-radeon-hd-7500m-7600m-fglrx-issue
[15:49] <nube_> yes, I came here
[15:50] <nube_> tyrog: trying to improve my gfx performance
[15:50] <jgornick> Hey guys, what would be causing my upstart script to not be recognized by initctl?
[15:50] <tyrog> nube_: Install the latest 13.4 drivers from the website. Is your card recent?
[15:50] <tyrog> AMD website, I mean
[15:50] <nube_> apparently it's  a Radeon HD 7770
[15:51] <tyrog> nube_: What Ubuntu version are you running?
[15:51] <nube_> 13.04
[15:51] <nube_> just installed 10 mins ago
[15:51] <nube_> gfx performance is utter shite
[15:51] <tyrog> nube_: Did the drivers from the repositories work for you?
[15:51] <tyrog> the proprietary drivers
[15:52] <nube_> no idea, haven't worked out how to install them yet
[15:52] <nube_> this is just a clean install from the CD
[15:52] <auronandace> nube_: tame your tongue
[15:52] <nube_> and I opted to download additional files from online
[15:52] <nube_> during the install
[15:52] <K1lleD> hi guys, i have ubuntu 12.04, is good idea i go upgrade to 13.04, or better clean install 13.04?
[15:53] <tacomaster> K1lleD: i had no issues with the upgrade not saying i have never seen something go wrong
[15:53] <tyrog> K1lleD: If you like what you have now, you don't need to upgrade
[15:53] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. While trying to install pavucontrol with apt-get instal, I'm getting error message "syntax error: unknown group 'root' in statoverride file". What is wrong in my installation?
[15:53] <tyrog> nube_: Desktop or laptop?
[15:54] <nube_> ok, I am now dling the drivers from here : http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[15:54] <nube_> tyrog: desktop
[15:54] <zadar> hi all
[15:54] <K1lleD> tyrog: i have a one old laptop and i dont have support for video driver, and i stay with built driver, and some friends tell me is better 12.10 or 13.04, from 12.04
[15:54] <rat_poison> hi
[15:54] <tacomaster> zadar: hello :D
[15:54] <tyrog> nube_: Download the latest driver for Linux from amd.com . Select the appropriate driver from the dropdown menus
[15:55] <K1lleD> if i dont install driver, and stay with built
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> nube_: there is a packaged version
[15:55] <tyrog> nube_: appropriate card
[15:55] <tyrog> K1lleD: What is your graphics card?
[15:55] <rat_poison> Is there an indicator that keeps track of the messages from libnotify?
[15:55] <nube_> I selected the appropriate card form there and the link I posted was the one I was givne
[15:55] <nube_> ActionParsnip: not sure what packaged version means
[15:55] <nube_> (I am a nube)
[15:55] <K1lleD> tyrog: ati radeon 4530 HD (laptop HP dv6-2010eq)
[15:56] <SonikkuAmerica> nube_: You're a cloud or a beginner? :) (la nube = cloud)
[15:56] <tyrog> K1lleD: You should keep 12.04 lts since the newer versions don't support the AMD proprietary driver anymore
[15:56] <nube_> is that french?
[15:56] <tyrog> For your card
[15:56] <nube_> beginner :)
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> nube_: one from the repos, in a deb file
[15:56] <zadar> anyone do know how to use proxy via irssi? need i install tor firstly? Pls help and thx 4 replay ;)
[15:56] <rat_poison> le nuage is in french
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> nube_: you don't need to manually install anything
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> nube_: you can do it using software centre
[15:56] <tyrog> ActionParsnip: I think he should install 13.4, not 13.1 that is in the repos, because his card is very recent I think he should go with latest
[15:57] <nube_> Ok, I opened the file that I dled from the amd site and it opens in gedit and seems to do nothing
[15:57] <tyrog> nube_: You unzipped AMD driver 13.4 and now you have a .run file right?
[15:57] <zadar> actually i use tor allready
[15:57] <nube_> tyrog: yes
[15:57] <zadar> sry 4 my english
[15:57] <nube_> amd-catalyst-13.4-linux-x86.x86_64.run
[15:58] <tyrog> nube_: Ill give you a link with the instructions in a moment xD
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> zadar  for, not 4, please
[15:58] <nube_> tx :D
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> nube_: I already gave you a link on how to install the driver.....
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> nube_: just so you are aware, Ubuntu 13.04 is only supported til January 2014
[15:58] <zadar> +i
[15:58] <tyrog> nube_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_upstream_drivers_directly_from_AMD.27s_website directly from Ubuntu documentation
[15:59] <nube_> ActionParsnip: yep, no problem; I'll only be using this pc for a few months before I tget another
[16:00] <klodiank> This is also a very good guide if it has not been linked before, can't see it in my history. >> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide <<
[16:00] <nube_> holy shite
[16:00] <nube_> so I need to run all these commands to install the drivers I just dled?
[16:00] <tyrog> nube_: Its very easy
[16:00] <klodiank> very easy
[16:00] <dk0r> I'm having trouble writing to a NAS's cifs shares that I mounted using autofs. I can only write to shares when I use sudo. The shares are all being mounted within /mnt/... Is there something simple I'm missing here?  Here are my auto.xxxx configs:  https://gist.github.com/dk0r/5637151
[16:00] <tyrog> And fast too, don't worry
[16:01] <klodiank> just follow everything, its super easy mate
[16:03] <tuffgong> hello
[16:03] <tyrog> nube_: Follow instructions starting from here http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29 until "Generic Config", then reboot and that's it :)
[16:04] <tuffgong>  need help on this accessing http://localhost/phpmyadmin and am get error "Chromium's connection attempt to localhost was rejected. The website may be down, or your network may not be properly configured."
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> dk0r: is you user ID 1004 ?
[16:05] <tuffgong>  need help on this accessing http://localhost/phpmyadmin and am get error "Chromium's connection attempt to localhost was rejected. The website may be down, or your network may not be properly configured."
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> tuffgong  localhost is your pc
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> tuffgong: have you allowed connections from localhost?
[16:05] <tuffgong> MonkeyDust, yes my pc
[16:05] <dk0r> ActionParsnip: I've tried including "uid=1004" in the auto.xxxx's options. I'll try it once more
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> dk0r: but is your UID 1004?
[16:06] <tuffgong> ActionParsnip, past few hours i was access it  nicely but now misbehaving
[16:06] <dk0r> ActionParsnip: yes. It is 1004.
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> tuffgong: is the service running ok?
[16:06] <tuffgong> ActionParsnip, yer everything its okay
[16:07] <dk0r> ActionParsnip: you can see in lines 6 & 7 that "uid=1004" is set:   https://gist.github.com/dk0r/5637151
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> tuffgong: can you telnet to the socket?
[16:07] <tuffgong> ActionParsnip, see my error in chromium browser Chromium's connection attempt to localhost was rejected. The website may be down, or your network may not be properly configured.
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> dk0r: thats why I was checking :)
[16:08] <dk0r> ActionParsnip: ? If it's already there, you don't need to check if its there :)
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> tuffgong: try using 127.0.0.1 instead of 'localhost'
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> dk0r: I was checking you were using the right ID, most users are 1000
[16:08] <dk0r> ActionParsnip: I see. Well, my NAS says that users uid=1004, so..
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> dk0r: you could add gid=1004   as well
[16:08] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. While trying to install pavucontrol with apt-get instal, I'm getting error message "syntax error: unknown group 'root' in statoverride file". What can I do to fix this?
[16:09] <tuffgong> ActionParsnip, it tell me this This is the default web page for this server.
[16:09] <tuffgong> The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet.
[16:09] <dk0r> ActionParsnip: I don't think uid = gid though. Is it convention for uid = gid by default ?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> dk0r: its not, but it may help if you  specify your users group with access too
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> dk0r: they are the same value usually
[16:10] <rat_poison> Hello! X, xorg.conf or xinitrc question here http://pastebin.com/hnd1ba3D
[16:10] <tuffgong> ActionParsnip, The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet.
[16:11] <dk0r> ActionParsnip: trying gid's
[16:12] <tuffgong> ActionParsnip, what can i do for matter
[16:13] <bloodriver> why is it, that i can not access my excite.com email address through Firefox?  I have to use Opera.  Any other email address I have no problems.  Only Excite via Firefox, which
[16:13] <bloodriver> 'times out'
[16:13] <junky> Heya everybody !
[16:13] <nube_> Ok; I followed all the instructions up to "In case of failure"
[16:13] <nube_> should I restart now?
[16:14] <bloodriver> not a biggie, just wondering
[16:14] <nube_> there is no noticiable change in the gfx preformance
[16:14] <BluesKaj> nimbiotics,this is an old post , but it might help http://blog.paulomernik.com/?p=23
[16:15] <bloodriver> i've had this problem for years now
[16:15] <junky> How can i increase my cPU perf with my new freshly installed Xubuntu?
[16:15] <auronandace> bloodriver: tried it in chromium?
[16:15] <rat_poison> junky: try preload
[16:16] <junky> rat_poison,  how?
[16:16] <nube_> ok, I will restart...
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> junky  simply install it, no need to activate or start it
[16:16] <dk0r> ActionParsnip: set uid's and gui'ds for all mounts. Still need sudo to write to /mnt/share-name:    https://gist.github.com/dk0r/5637151
[16:16] <tyrog> nube_: no
[16:16] <tyrog> w8
[16:17] <tuffgong> ActionParsnip, The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet.
[16:17] <junky> it will really help my computer to be faster, coz, i'm an windows user ( i know, shame on me) but i would like to use now just Linux
[16:17] <rat_poison> preload doens't actually improve cpu performance, it improves system performance by loading your most used apps on RAM before you need them (firefox, or whatever you use most frequently)
[16:17] <tyrog> nube_: Before restarting, do the command that is in the following section, "Generic Config"
[16:17] <dk0r> ActionParsnip: could need sudo be required by my system because I'm trying to write into /mnt/  ?
[16:17] <dk0r> ActionParsnip: I wonder if I mound inside ~/ whether the sudo requirement will go away
[16:17] <rat_poison> junky, you can install it with a sudo apt-get install preload, or just find it in the software center
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> !info preload | junky
[16:18] <rat_poison> preload doens't actually improve cpu performance, it improves system performance by loading your most used apps on RAM before you need them (firefox, or whatever you use most frequently)
[16:18] <rat_poison> Hello! X, xorg.conf or xinitrc question here http://pastebin.com/hnd1ba3D
[16:18] <SteveBell> MonkeyDust:  not sure how to get a grip on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 . I followed the directions for installed os. found that line (which in my case ends different, then ctrl + x to boot with modified settings. but landed on a page with more problem info. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5694180/
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> junky  moving tmp files to RAM also improved speed
[16:19] <junky> when i go in the software center, my cpu use increase as hell and my computer is very slow.. :/
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> SteveBell  i've never used or needed it myself - didi you follow the ubottu instructions?
[16:20] <flcl> can anybody helps me to understand how to install 4.5 framework  with mono in ubuntu?
[16:20] <nube__> __> eurh [02:19] <@nube__> ok, I restarted [02:19] <@nube__> the gfx performance seems improved somehwat [02:19] <@nube__> but now, I have two monitors, the display is being duplicated on both [02:20] <@nube__> but I want to "extend" my desktop [02:20] <@nube__> this was sucessfully happening before [02:20] <@nube__> now when I go to display options\
[16:20] <nube__> I deselect mirror display
[16:20] <nube__> and I get
[16:21] <nube__> "Failed to apply configuration: %s"
[16:21] <SteveBell> ubottu? I followed the article instructions. and got farer then without the nomodeset command at the right place but still landed in a shell instead of ubuntu
[16:21] <rat_poison> junI think ubottu is a bot
[16:21] <nube__> GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._gnome_2drr_2derror_2dquark.Code3: required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3840, 1200), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[16:21] <nube__> :(
[16:22] <SteveBell> hehe, well that article seems the right approach rat_poison MonkeyDust
[16:22] <nube__> This is why I gave up on linux 5 years ago...
[16:22] <Mike3620> is their a command to show what process is eating up the bandwidth on my server?
[16:22] <junky> Does anyone knows a free EDI to code in "Objective C " ?
[16:22] <tyrog> nube__: Calm down
[16:23] <rat_poison> junky, you mean IDE?
[16:23] <junky> rat_poison,  yep
[16:23] <tyrog> nube__: You don't gain anything on giving up right off anyway, all OSs have their problems
[16:23] <appy_kudos> Mike3620: nethogs may help you
[16:24] <SonikkuAmerica> junky: There's always gedit and nano, but NetBeans might be good (not sure if it does Objective-C though)
[16:24] <Mike3620> thank you appy_kudos
[16:24] <nube__> I agree, but it's quite frustrating...
[16:24] <tyrog> nube__: First make sure the AMD driver is running, by typing 'glxinfo |grep vendor' in the terminal
[16:24] <appy_kudos> Mike3620: happy to help
[16:24] <tophyr> i am looking to clone my linux install from one hard drive, into a (smaller) one. i can't simply dd my partition over, because of that smaller tidbit. i've set up an ext4 fs and mounted it - could this be as simple as just doing 'cp -xa / /mnt/newdrive' ?
[16:24] <appy_kudos> Mike3620: sudo apt-get install nethogs
[16:25] <rat_poison> junky, you can use KDevelop
[16:25] <nube__> The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[16:25] <tophyr> specifically, i'm worried about things like links, permissions, etc.
[16:25] <tyrog> nube__: Do as it is said in that output
[16:25] <junky> Which one is the best ? Kdevelop ? gedit ? Nano ?
[16:25] <llutz> tophyr: you can, "rsync -aux / /new/" would do too
[16:25] <SteveBell> http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png in my case after quiet splash the line continues with $vt_handoff
[16:25] <nube__> ae@bathst:~$ glxinfo |grep vendor server glx vendor string: ATI client glx vendor string: ATI OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[16:25] <SteveBell> could that maybe be the root of my trouble?
[16:25] <llutz> tophyr: just make sure you edit /etc/fstab later to adjust UUIDs etc and rewrite Grub
[16:26] <tophyr> llutz: i thought about rsync.. would it be faster? seems like for a start-from-nothing copy, it'd just add overhead
[16:26] <rat_poison> junky, gedit and nano are text editors, they do not provide the conveniences of a complete IDE
[16:26] <tophyr> adjusting the UUIDs for the partitions is definitely on my mind, yeah
[16:26] <tyrog> nube__: Yep so it is running. If you want to configure dual monitors on a proprietary driver, you need to use AMD Catalyst tool, not Display Monitors from GNOME/Unity
[16:26] <karthakon> /whois karthakon
[16:26] <rat_poison> junky, I hope you're not gonna ask emacs vs vi
[16:26] <junky> rat_poison,  Oh okay !
[16:26] <llutz> tophyr: i'm not benchmarking stuff, i'd guess plain cp would be a bit faster but i prefer rsync (resume later etc.)
[16:26] <tyrog> rat_poison: Though I use them for programming easy stuff too and they are quite reliable for that xD
[16:27] <appy_kudos> rat_poison: Good joke
[16:27] <nube__> tyrog: Ok, where do I find AMD CAtalyist tool
[16:27] <tophyr> mm, good point, hadn't thought about resume.. although i don't expect to need it
[16:27] <tyrog> nube__: are you on Unity?
[16:27] <rat_poison> glad I got your attention! Hello! X, xorg.conf or xinitrc question here http://pastebin.com/hnd1ba3D
[16:27] <rat_poison> hehe
[16:28] <nube__> tyrog: I think so.. this is a fresh install of Ubunto 13.04, haven't changed anything except as you've instructed recently
[16:28] <junky> rat_poison,  what is it "emacs or vi " ? (I'm french, I don't speak a perfect english )
[16:28] <tyrog> nube__: open the Dash and search for Catalyst
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> rat_poison: oh man that is older than most people here
[16:29] <rat_poison> junky, ah, it is an ancient battle between two kingdoms. there is poetic lore about this epic war, you can google it I guess
[16:29] <nube__> tyrog: Ok I found it in catalyst, but it akss me to open it as a superuser to make changes
[16:30] <nube__> *found it in dash
[16:30] <rat_poison> junky, the tale starts like so: Eight Megabytes and Constantly Swapping (Notice the acronym)....
[16:30] <tyrog> nube__: Close that window. You should open the one that says (Administrative) right after
[16:30] <junky> rat_poison, ok, i'm gonna google it, you are really kinda to answer me without mocking ;D
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> rat_poison  MCSE = Most Common System Errors
[16:31] <llutz> rat_poison: most people today don't even imagine whats wrong with "Eight Megabytes" ...
[16:31] <tyrog> nube__: When you search for Catalyst in the Dash, then should appear 2 options, open the one that says Catalyst(Administrative), where you can input your password and then configure Display Settings for Multi-monitor support
[16:31] <nube__> ayep
[16:31] <nube__> I choose the adminstrator one
[16:31] <nube__> enter my password
[16:32] <nube__> then the window disappears and nothing happens
[16:32] <rat_poison> tyrog, EMACS can be used almost as an operating system replacement if you know what you're doing. Doesn't mean I'd spend the man hours to learn to do that!
[16:32] <tyrog> rat_poison: lol
[16:32] <tyrog> nube__: try again. Have you closed the first window?
[16:33] <tyrog> the other Catalyst you had opened before
[16:34] <nube__> tyrog: yes I closed that one
[16:34] <tyrog> nube__: Try to reopen Administrative window. If that fails, run from terminal 'gksudo amdcccle'
[16:34] <junky> Bye all :)
[16:34] <rat_poison> nube__, is this a fresh install on a new /home/ partition, or did you have a separate one and you just remounted it?
[16:35] <nube__> this is a fresh install
[16:35] <nube__> I chose manual
[16:35] <nube__> and made a partition for "/
[16:35] <nube__> "
[16:35] <nube__> and a partition for "swap"
[16:35] <nube__> The program 'gksudo' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gksu
[16:35] <tyrog> nube__: install it
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> nube__  gksudo is part of gksu
[16:36] <rat_poison> nube__,   ok so my suspicion is unfounded, go on. I like people using swap partitions! it's kinda oldschool, I still use it
[16:36] <nube__> Ok, now it launched
[16:37] <nube__> should I select "Multi-display desktop with display(s) 1" ?
[16:37] <nube__> ( I have 2 identical monitors)
[16:37] <tyrog> nube__: Whatever you want to do really :)
[16:38] <nube__> I want to extend the desktop across both displays
[16:38] <nube__> It says I need to restart now
[16:38] <nube__> btb
[16:40] <espectalll123> Hi!
[16:40] <espectalll123> Anyone knows how to do phablet/desktop apps?
[16:41] <nube_> ok, it works!
[16:41] <espectalll123> I mean, an hybrid, not just doing the apps
[16:41] <jrtappers> What is a good way to debug a flakey internet connection on ubuntu, it keeps stopping. Wireshark shows me sending retransmits
[16:41] <nube_> thank you very much tyrog et al for your help
[16:41] <tyrog> nube_: See? No problem :)
[16:42] <nube_> :) sure, but I do hope that in future versions of ubuntu this process is automated as I think less patient users will juts give up rather than following this process
[16:43] <tyrog> nube_: Maybe from Ubuntu 14.04 with Mir that process is simpler. For now, we have to live with whatever AMD gives us xD
[16:47] <rat_poison> tyrog, if AMD doesn't modify its catalyst driver to accomodate Mir, you'll just have to live with the OSS drivers
[16:47] <nube_> tyrog: Ok! Well goodnight, bed time for me :D
[16:47] <ichat_web> can anyone help me fix  a verry interesting issue... im having a DISK witch was perviously used by ubuntu with an lvm encrypted home...  now im realocating the disk for other use but in gparted i somehow can not remove the  encrypted disk... how can whipe the disk  and its partition table  \
[16:48] <tyrog> rat_poison: they should make something that is EGL-based so it works across Mir and Wayland
[16:48] <jockey4her> SSH is working on our machine, but it is no longer on the SMB network.  Is there a tool for looking at that type of thing?
[16:49] <rat_poison> ichat_web, you have to know either your encryption key or your previous username passwd combo
[16:49] <ichat_web> rat_poison:  i know  my user + pass
[16:49] <Skolko> moin
[16:50] <rat_poison> ichat_web, you could create a new partition, install ubuntu there and mount your old partition unencrypted if you use the same username pass.
[16:50] <rat_poison> (I think)
[16:50] <rat_poison> ichat_web, I mean you can do it, I just don't know what happens to the encryption.
[16:50] <ichat_web> rat thats not really possible since the hdd is now in a usb case,
[16:51] <rat_poison> ichat_web, then you need someone with more ecryptfs-fu than I
[16:51] <ichat_web> rat_poison:  i dont even want to save the thing,  i just want to be able to completely whyp it from disk so i can get from gpt back to bios
[16:52] <rat_poison> ichat_web: how about fdisk from a root terminal
[16:52] <rat_poison> ichat_web, also, the partition you want to erase cannot be mounted
[16:53] <ichat_web> rat_poison:  afaik i unmounted all disks ... as im in the   cd env.
[16:54] <shekhark> i have a problem with linuxdc++ on ubuntu 13.04, while i am connected to different hubs, it always shows "waiting for slot" even though there are slots available
[16:55] <tuffgong> need a help on this  log into phpmyadmin "#1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server"
[16:55] <rat_poison> ichat_web, use this link to find out about fdisk http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-delete-a-partition-with-fdisk-command/
[16:55] <Fieldy> tuffgong: we'll need a lot more information than that
[16:56] <llutz> rat_poison: fdisk cannot handle gpt-drives
[16:56] <ichat_web> rat_poison:  tnx looking at now.
[16:56] <tuffgong> Fieldy, am trying to log in but it gives  that error msg
[16:57] <tuffgong> Fieldy, tell me which info to give so that you cure my problem
[16:57] <rat_poison> ichat_web, look at llutz comment
[16:57] <WeThePeople> is there a way to check 2 scripts to see if they are identical?
[16:57] <llutz> WeThePeople: diff script1 script2
[16:58] <rat_poison> WeThePeople, functionally identical, or literally?
[16:58] <WeThePeople> llutz, es
[16:58] <tuffgong> Fieldy,  tell me brother
[16:58] <WeThePeople> rat_poison, literally
[16:58] <rat_poison> then diff
[16:58] <tuffgong> need a help on this  log into phpmyadmin "#1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server"
[16:58] <WeThePeople> thanks
[16:59] <jrtappers> How can I bypass scanning for steam games updates on ubuntu?
[16:59] <nimbiotics> I want to record intrnal audio from my PC. I just installed pavucontrol and followed one af many howto's. But once I select "Monitor of Internal Audio Analog Atereo" on pavucontrol my mic gets muted. Please help me fix this! TIA
[17:01] <ichat_web> llutz:  - any other way to forse gparted to create a new partition table?
[17:01] <tuffgong> need a help on this  log into phpmyadmin "#1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server"
[17:01] <llutz> ichat_web: idk, i never used gparted. i'd suggest to use parted, it should do the job
[17:03] <WeThePeople> llutz, is there a output generated, what should happen if their identical?
[17:04] <llutz> Wheaties: no output = files are identical
[17:04] <WeThePeople> diff script.sh1 script.sh2 didnt work
[17:04] <WeThePeople> ok thanks
[17:05] <ichat_web> its said to be mounted but it cant be.
[17:05] <llutz> ichat_web: sudo umount /dev/sdX* ; sudo swapoff -a               replace sdX with the correct device
[17:06] <S_A> Hi
[17:06] <vivekg> I would like to write a program which given a timezone name, gives me back the current local time in that timezone considering the DST(Day Light Savings)... any pointers?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> nimbiotics, don't choose the monitor setting in pavucontrol , open alsamixer and use the capture ctl for your mic
[17:06] <S_A> I am trying to upgrade ubuntu from 12.10 to 13.04 but always stuck at "setting new software channels".  any help ?
[17:06] <chvx> is it possible to delete and add users via /etc/ via kinda config file?
[17:07] <kdeuser^> Hello
[17:07] <BluesKaj> nimbiotics, in pavucontrol set the inpt ctrl to mic if it's available
[17:07] <llutz> vivekg: doesn't "date -d 'now EST'  " do that?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> input
[17:07] <kdeuser^> I use Ubuntu 12.04.2 and use unity 2d. When I try to open flash videos fullscreen. I still only see the web browser and the video is only shown in the corner where the unity launcher was
[17:07] <tuffgong> need a help on this  log into phpmyadmin "#1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server"
[17:08] <llutz> vivekg: set whatever timezone you need
[17:09] <vivekg> llutz: I need to get the time of a remote timezone without changing the local time zone... and particularly looking for either a system call or a C library function..
[17:09] <WeThePeople> i have a weird issue with my headphones.. when i reboot they dont work but when i shutdown and turn the laptop back on they work, what is not getting loaded on reboot that is getting loaded on startup?
[17:09] <tuffgong>   sorry guys need a help on this  log into phpmyadmin "#1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server"
[17:09] <S_A> guys! any suggestion for my upgrade problem ?
[17:09] <llutz> vivekg: date -d   neither changes your time nor your timezone
[17:10] <WeThePeople> tuffgong, have you tried #phpmyadmin?
[17:10] <tuffgong> WeThePeople, not yet tried
[17:11] <WeThePeople> anybody here like gnome3?
[17:11] <tgunr> If I have a linux server going into a rack with one of 3 possible networks would this config be kosher to permit access regardless of which of the three cables are plugged in? http://polymicro.clarify-it.com/d/lcympn
[17:11] <vivekg> llutz: great... Is there any C function around this feature of date command
[17:12] <vivekg> so that I can get this info problematically instead of issuing system("date....") command
[17:12] <llutz> vivekg: i'd guess so but you'd better ask in ##c, my c-knowledge is nearly 0.
[17:12] <nimbiotics> alsamixer?
[17:12] <vivekg> llutz: sure.. thank you for your help... will check it out there....
[17:12] <tuffgong> WeThePeople, i found myself there #phpmyadmin
[17:12] <vivekg> :)
[17:12] <nimbiotics> BluesKaj: alsamixer??
[17:12] <tyrog> WeThePeople: what a generic question, don't start a flamewar xD
[17:13] <Wheaties> thanks...? llakey?
[17:13] <BluesKaj> nimbiotics, open a terminal , type alsamixer
[17:13] <WeThePeople> tyrog, idk what a flamewar is
[17:13] <tuffgong>   sorry guys need a help on this  log into phpmyadmin "#1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server"
[17:13] <camilo_> help me with cam for Ustream, Skype, Facebook video chat, control panel v4l2
[17:13] <WeThePeople> tuffgong, are you on local or a server
[17:14] <camilo_> my cam only run with camorama and cheese
[17:14] <tuffgong> WeThePeople, local
[17:14] <camilo_> my english is bad
[17:14] <nimbiotics> BluesKaj: ive got it in front of me ... just dont know what to do with it
[17:14] <WeThePeople> tuffgong, using xampp
[17:14] <camilo_> sorry
[17:14] <WeThePeople> "lamp"
[17:14] <tuffgong> WeThePeople, lamp using
[17:14] <zdkl> hola
[17:15] <Karty> hello. I would like to learn how i can contribute to ubuntu opensource development
[17:15] <tuffgong> WeThePeople, lamp
[17:15] <zdkl> en Español por favor?? donde es????
[17:15] <Pici> !es | zdkl
[17:15] <camilo_> help me with cam for Ustream, Skype, Facebook video chat, control panel v4l2
[17:15] <camilo_> my english is bad
[17:15] <camilo_> sorry
[17:15] <camilo_> my cam only run with camorama and cheese
[17:15] <n0yd> Hi, how can I remove the default ubunutu kernels permanently? I dont just mean removing the older kernel versions, I mean all the ubuntu kernels.  I am using a custom kernel (with a recovery mode also) and have no need for the ubuntu default kernels.
[17:16] <BluesKaj> nimbiotics,
[17:16] <BluesKaj> make sure the Master, PCM,  Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'  then turn those controls up to the max.
[17:16] <WeThePeople> tuffgong, first copy and paste #1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server into google search their is plenty of solutions it looks like
[17:16] <n0yd> My problem is IU can remove the kernel images and headers via apt, but when doing a upgrade, they come back, because a meta package must be pulling them in
[17:16] <nimbiotics> BluesKaj: yes
[17:16] <cyclist_2> I found a memory leak on my system due to 2 processes: polkitd and gnome-power-manager; other than upgrading to the newest version of Ubuntu or restarting my system more often than I nedd, does anyone have idea of how to fix this? I already did a lot of searching but the fixes did not work...
[17:17] <BluesKaj> then open the capture ctls  F4 and find the mic , nimbiotics
[17:17] <n0yd> Karty: this isnt a good channel for development. But if you google, there is a page on the ubuntu wiki about getting started contributing
[17:17] <n0yd> If you need help finding it, let me know
[17:17] <S_A> I am trying to upgrade ubuntu from 12.10 to 13.04 via inetrnet. but always stuck at "setting new software channels".  any help ?
[17:17] <nimbiotics> BluesKaj: got it
[17:18] <tuffgong> WeThePeople, see my private message
[17:18] <devjustforfun> pidora.ca
[17:18] <WeThePeople> tuffgong, dont take it personal
[17:19] <WeThePeople> settle down and find a solution to your problem
[17:19] <BluesKaj> nimbiotics, after setting your ctrls , press esc , and enter , sudo alsactl store
[17:19] <tuffgong> WeThePeople, what da hell are you
[17:20] <tuffgong> WeThePeople, if you are capable helping someone just help him and not foolishalizing like you are
[17:20] <camilo_> my cam only run with camorama and cheese
[17:21] <ichat> he man i think you saved my @$$
[17:21] <nimbiotics> BluesKaj: howw do i set the ctlrs? what can i do?
[17:21] <camilo_> me cam  no run with cam for Ustream, Skype, Facebook video chat, control panel v4l2
[17:21] <betrayd> whats the bad news camilo_
[17:22] <BluesKaj> nimbiotics, use the arrow keys for volume increase/decrease and the < and > arrow keys to navigate
[17:22] <Charcoalcat> Ubuntu either won't recognize storage medias (USB, SD, micro SD), or recognizes them for a few seconds or minutes and then kills them. All of them work just fine on the other (Windows) computers in the house. Here's the output of "dmesg | tail -n10": http://paste.ubuntu.com/5694320/ The first one is a couple of minutes after it died (when Unetbootin froze), the second one is after it was successfully recognized, and the third one is
[17:22] <Charcoalcat> after it died again (after unetbootin said it had been successful).
[17:23] <nimbiotics> BluesKaj: on which control??
[17:23] <camilo_> betrayd: my cam no run with Ustream, Skype, Google plus, FAcebook videochta
[17:23] <BluesKaj>  on any of the controls , nimbiotics
[17:23] <WeThePeople> tuffgong, thanks though yo showed me something about myself
[17:23] <WeThePeople> you*
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> Charcoalcat: how bout reformat all of them
[17:24] <Charcoalcat> lotuspsychje: I'll try, but they don't usually stay connected long enough to get formatted.
[17:24] <tyrog> camilo_: What ubuntu version?
[17:24] <camilo_> betrayd: no run with control panel v4l2
[17:24] <BluesKaj> nimbiotics, up arrow to increase volume on output/input/capture , down for decrease
[17:25] <camilo_> betrayd: ubuntu 13.04
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> Charcoalcat: testdisk or gparted might help you
[17:25] <camilo_> betrayd: my cam is genius eye 312
[17:25] <BluesKaj> nimbiotics, I have to leave for 30 mins or so ,,BBL
[17:26] <Charcoalcat> lotuspsychje: Okay, I'll try those!
[17:26] <nimbiotics> BluesKaj: ok, THX
[17:27] <pls__> #alid
[17:29] <n0yd> Hmm
[17:30] <n0yd> So can anyone answer my question?
[17:30] <n0yd> Its up above from like 6-7 minutes ago
[17:30] <camilo_> betrayd: you help me?
[17:30] <n0yd> I can repost if needed
[17:31] <n0yd> how can I remove the default ubunutu kernels permanently? I dont just mean removing the older kernel versions, I mean all the ubuntu kernels.  I am using a custom kernel (with a recovery mode also) and have no need for the ubuntu default kernels.
[17:32] <n0yd> My problem is I can remove the kernel images and headers via apt, but when doing a upgrade, they come back, because a meta package must be pulling them in
[17:32] <n0yd> So if it is an issue of a meta package pulling the kernel back in, Im not sure what meta package it would be, or how to find it
[17:33] <Guest10129> hi there!I want to learn python, try to find an interactive python teaching software for linux.I'm absolute beginner
[17:34] <Guest10129> in python
[17:34] <genii-around> n0yd: There is a built-in failsafe of apt-get config where it will refuse to deinstall current running kernel and one previous. It can be over ridden however. If you do: apt-config dump | grep image  it will show you the ones which are being held. You can call apt-get with -o APT::NeverAutoRemove::=""
[17:35] <otak> you can ask in #python Guest10129. My recommendation is learnpythonthehardway.org
[17:35] <Guest10129> thank you
[17:36] <betrayd> camilo_ the ones that don't work or don't recognize your camera, run them in terminal, and paste the error messages but the forum might be better as a venue
[17:36] <genii-around> n0yd: Alternately, make an entry in /etc/apt/apt.conf  ( which may not exist until you create it ) with APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "";
[17:37] <n0yd> neverautoremove?
[17:37] <echoe> does anyone know how to use the pvc kernel via command line in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:37] <n0yd> Wouldnt i want neverautoinstall?
[17:37] <bellasbells> http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/linux-generic
[17:37] <n0yd> My issue isnt that it autoremoves my custom kernel packages, my issue is that it auto installs the ubuntu kernels
[17:38] <bellasbells> whoever was asking for the kernel metapackage before my network failed thats for ^^
[17:38] <genii-around> n0yd: If you deinstall linux-image-generic, how can it want to install an updated version? ;)
[17:38] <kate_r> hi
[17:38] <kate_r> if i want to create a SSL tunnel and then execute a command in a bash script, should use 'ssh... & \n command...' or 'ssh... \n command...'?
[17:38] <n0yd> genii-around: apparently there is a meta package that pulls it in during upgrade
[17:39] <dav> any idea why so many packages come (apt-)marked as manualy installed with the default install?
[17:39] <n0yd> genii-around: Ive never removed linux-image-generic, but I remove the linux-image-#.# package, and the two header packages, and they get autopmatically pulled back in during upgrade
[17:39] <minas> I have a dell laptop that I must boot with acpi = off in order to boot. Problem is that only 1 thread is recognized (I have 4)
[17:40] <betrayd> minas why do you need to disable acpi
[17:40] <n0yd> genii-around: according to a kernel developer for ubuntu, it is the generic image package which pulls evewrything in. So I guess thats the issue
[17:41] <n0yd> Thanks for the help
[17:41] <minas> betrayd, because it does not boot when acpi is enabled. it shows a black screen forever
[17:41] <betrayd> you want a partial refund
[17:41] <genii-around> n0yd: Yes, I understand. But consider: You boot to your custom kernel. It will refuse to deinstall that because it's what the system is currently running. But then, you can deinstall the ones which keep pulling in the regular kernels ( linux-image-generic ), which normally it won't let you do because of the apt configurations default. But if you override it so that you can deinstall the generic package, when the system checks for an upgrade to
[17:41] <genii-around> existing packages, that package is not existing anymore to upgrade
[17:41] <genii-around> etc
[17:41] <UltimaKR> I just installed Lubuntu on my older desktop and whenever I open pages on the Chromium Web Browser I get the messages "Aw, snap!" or "He's dead, Jim!"  If the page does load, these errors usually follow a couple of seconds later or when clicking on a subsequent link.  Can anybody help me with this?
[17:42] <betrayd> minas no, just kidding, type !blackscreen here and it will lead you to troubleshoot that without hurting acpi
[17:42] <dav> UltimaKR: does firefox work better?
[17:42] <minas> !blackscreen
[17:42] <betrayd> minas that=video problem
[17:42] <ALISONNY> blackscreen. whitescreen. it's just racist.
[17:42] <UltimaKR> dav: I haven't tried Firefox yet since it didn't come with the install.
[17:43] <minas> betrayd, well I am using the open source drivers, which are pretty f@cked for my laptop
[17:43] <n0yd> genii-around: of course
[17:43] <betrayd> whats the nonracist command? !video is it
[17:43] <dav> UltimaKR: you could first try deleting all chromium config and cache, see if that does anything: rm -rv ~/.config/chromium ~/.cache/chromium
[17:43] <minas> !video
[17:43] <n0yd> I only wanna keep my custom kernel anyway, which is packaged as a deb and installed via a repo
[17:43] <WeThePeople> ultimakr, use a lighter distro
[17:43] <n0yd> (liquorix)
[17:43] <WeThePeople> like fluxbox
[17:44] <UltimaKR> dav: I just installed it so there isn't really much cache to delete.
[17:44] <n0yd> oh woops, I was reading stuff from earlier, my bad
[17:44] <minas> betrayd, maybe if I install the proprietory GPU drivers from NVIDIA acpi problems will go away?
[17:44] <dav> UltimaKR: no harm in trying..
[17:44] <UltimaKR> WeThePeople: Why do I need a lighter distro than Lubuntu?
[17:45] <echoe> agh. has anyone had success running phc in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:45] <WeThePeople> ultimakr, try firefox to see if there is a difference in load times
[17:45] <UltimaKR> dav: I will go get firefox to try and delete the cache.
[17:45] <betrayd> minas no guarantees, if I had nvidia i'd use the installer rom the repos, not nvidias website
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> UltimaKR: did you try running chrome from terminal, to check any errors?
[17:45] <tyrog> minas: Nouveau is miles behind the NVIDIA proprietary drivers, unfortunately
[17:45] <echoe> think I'm stuck without manually editing phctool and I'd rather not. ... me programming is bad times.
[17:45] <minas> betrayd, but ubuntu doesn't recognize the restricted drivers - no drivers are listed as proprietory
[17:46] <dav> UltimaKR: if none of it works, you can try installing chromium from PPA: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/stable
[17:46] <n0yd> Well I just testedx it, wortks fine. Much thanks
[17:46] <tyrog> minas: No? What's your card?
[17:47] <bitbyte> any of you guys know of ubuntu running on ipad2
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> !touch | bitbyte
[17:47] <betrayd> yes but i believe there is a HOWTO up online somewhere to get the ppa and binaries working -- yes you'll be out on a limb
[17:47] <dav> UltimaKR: actually that PPA looks old
[17:47] <minas> tyrog, I dont know (it's my laptop's friend actually - if we boot into win7 I will tell you). Isn't it ok to install the drivers from the nvidia website?
[17:47] <bitbyte> thanks
[17:48] <tyrog> minas: It probably uses the Optimus techonology (Intel + NVIDIA). In that case you should use bumblebeee
[17:48] <streulma> minas: lspci
[17:48] <minas> tyrog, bumblebeee?
[17:48] <dav> !touch | dav
[17:48] <tyrog> minas: lspci |grep VGA
[17:48] <tyrog> in the terminal
[17:49] <minas> ok
[17:49] <minas> tyrog, one min, he will send me an email with the output
[17:49] <sonofzeus> Hi there
[17:50] <UltimaKR> dav: I'm downloading Firefox from the software center right now so I will let you know if that works any better.
[17:50] <sonofzeus> Can anyone read the VNC part of this article : http://www.pcworld.com/article/2033284/how-to-control-your-pc-with-your-android-phone.html lemme know what to do?
[17:50] <sonofzeus> VNC ubuntu x11vnc part.
[17:50] <bazhang> !ot | sonofzeus
[17:50] <karty> its a app with which you can control your PC via phone
[17:50] <minas> tyrog, streulma: http://pastebin.com/d2wVmV40
[17:50] <karty> something similar to team viewer
[17:50] <sonofzeus> Ugh I know that karty
[17:51] <karty> kool
[17:51] <tyrog> minas: It uses Optimus technology
[17:51] <streulma> is there someone who would help me installing ubuntu on my mac native? with giving tips and so on?
[17:51] <sonofzeus> open the Startup Applications menu and add this entry: x11vnc -forever -passwd xyzzy -rfbport 5900 -bg, where ‘xyzzy’ is your chosen password.
[17:51] <minas> tyrog, so what should I do?
[17:51] <sonofzeus> what does that mean?
[17:51] <Ahmedo> hello, i need an assistent urgenly please, i have missed up with grub bootloader
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> !mac | streulma
[17:51] <Ahmedo> assist.
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> Ahmedo: whats your issue mate, just ask your problem
[17:52] <tyrog> !optimus
[17:52] <Ahmedo> lotus , ive installed 'burg'
[17:52] <tyrog> !bumblebee
[17:53] <minas> tyrog, sudo apt-get install bumblebee-nvidia primus ?
[17:53] <tyrog> minas: do these in order
[17:53] <Ahmedo> because i have an interest on changing the bootloader background
[17:53] <treehau55> I read that dnsmasq is default for ubuntu 12.04, is this correct?
[17:53] <minas> !optimus
[17:53] <tyrog> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable
[17:53] <Ahmedo> unfortunatly i was installing it with 'terminal' instead of xterm
[17:53] <sonofzeus> open the Startup Applications menu and add this entry: x11vnc -forever -passwd xyzzy -rfbport 5900 -bg, where ‘xyzzy’ is your chosen password.what does that mean?
[17:53] <tyrog> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[17:53] <Ahmedo> so when it asked me from the sda number ive added number one.
[17:53] <tyrog> sudo apt-get update
[17:54] <Pici> !who
[17:54] <tyrog> sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia
[17:54] <tyrog> then reboot
[17:54] <Ahmedo> rebooted, and couldnt load , it trasfared me to grub rescue
[17:54] <Ahmedo> when i write ls , its shows only hd0
[17:55] <Ahmedo> and now iam booting using haren boot cd
[17:55] <elisa87> I have extracted the CFG of a test.c program into test.c.013t.cfg using gimple, does anyone know how I can visualize it?
[17:55] <Ahmedo> any idea lotuspsychje
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> Ahmedo: you might wanna try ubuntu livecd to fix grub, sudo update-grub
[17:55] <minas> tyrog, thanks, installing now
[17:56] <Ahmedo> lotus tried it , nothing happened , is there a way to edit the cfg file ?
[17:56] <betrayd> hopefully minas you wont need acpi=off
[17:56] <minas> betrayd, i hope so :)
[17:56] <Raimonds> 	Hi. Might anyone know what I am doing wrong, because when I try to run ubuntu from my USB I get unable to find a medium containing a live file system. Might it be something with that I have USB 3.0, i just read on forums that it can not read MD5sum, but as the post was pretty old, it might not be the case. http://i.imgur.com/OwxOHD3.jpg I am using universal USB installer and my goal is to make ubuntu bootable from USB, so I can use it.
[17:57] <nissim> Hey guys. I'm extremely new to Ubuntu and I'm having tons of issues setting up. Can anyone help me?
[17:57] <minas> nissim, yes, what are your issues?
[17:57] <treehau55> I am trying to use dnsmasq to set up virtual domain names for developing ruby on rails applications (this isnt a RoR question). Do you recommend disabling dnsmasq in Network Manager, and then apt-get'ing dnsmasq to use for my own developer purposes?
[17:57] <ALISONNY> Raimonds, maybe you need to set boot device to usb
[17:57] <Ahmedo> i did the grub-update lotuspsychje
[17:57] <ALISONNY> minas, what's the problem?
[17:57] <nissim> well, when I log in , i dont get a GUI but just a commandline style prompt
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> Ahmedo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[17:58] <ALISONNY> i meant nissim
[17:58] <Raimonds> ALISONNY: It is booting from USB, I see the ubuntu loading screen http://www.linoob.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Ubuntu-Bootscreen.png and then the console does its thing and then the errors pops up and it halts.
[17:59] <nissim> if I type startx or sudo start, etc. I get a who list of actions that the system is doing followed by an [OK] at the end of each line
[17:59] <tyrog> minas: Is your friend on Ubuntu 13.04?
[17:59] <nissim> and I cant type or do anything else
[17:59] <minas> tyrog, yes, we just installed it
[17:59] <treehau55> nissim, are you trying to use ubuntu as your desktop OS or are you using a virtual environment, or are you setting up a server and 'logging in' by ssh?
[18:00] <nissim> Im using it with virtualbox and I downloaded the desktop version from the ubunto site
[18:00] <umib0zu> anyone know anything about kernels and kernel management? A while ago I asked about my /boot folder being full and was told to delete some of the older versions. turns out I was using virtualbox and it was putting kernels in there for my VMs.
[18:01] <sonofzeus> open the Startup Applications menu and add this entry: x11vnc -forever -passwd xyzzy -rfbport 5900 -bg, where ‘xyzzy’ is your chosen password.what does that mean?
[18:01] <kpuljek> any ideas on how to install nvidia drivers on aspire v3, it has a geforce 710M and it just doesn't work
[18:01] <treehau55> nissim, try logging in, and from the command line typing in 'startx' and see what happens
[18:02] <tyrog> minas: Before rebooting, he needs to install the NVIDIA drivers too. After installing bumblebee, tell him to do 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic nvidia-graphics-drivers-313-updates'
[18:02] <treehau55> nissim, this is also a common question, a lot of your answers can be found on askubuntu.com its a great resource
[18:02] <minas> tyrog, we rebooted, but we will do now
[18:02] <faafffaa> how to change unity ui to classic?
[18:02] <sonofzeus> open the Startup Applications menu and add this entry: x11vnc -forever -passwd xyzzy -rfbport 5900 -bg, where ‘xyzzy’ is your chosen password.what does that mean?
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> !notunity | faafffaa
[18:03] <treehau55> I am trying to use dnsmasq to set up virtual domain names for developing ruby on rails applications (this isnt a RoR question). Do you recommend disabling dnsmasq in Network Manager, and then apt-get'ing dnsmasq to use for my own developer purposes?
[18:03] <sonofzeus> open the Startup Applications menu and add this entry: x11vnc -forever -passwd xyzzy -rfbport 5900 -bg, where ‘xyzzy’ is your chosen password.what does that mean?
[18:04] <bazhang> !repeat | sonofzeus
[18:04] <tyrog> minas: Actually, it is 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic nvidia-313-updates' instead xD
[18:04] <treehau55> sonofzeus, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X11vnc
[18:04] <nissim> treehau55, I get this http://imgur.com/kqypFsv and i cant do anything else. No keyboard input or anything
[18:05] <treehau55> nissim, try messing around with the graphics settings in virtualbox
[18:05] <IdleOne> sonofzeus: it means in that command you want to replace xyzzy with your actual password
[18:05] <minas> tyrog, installing now
[18:05] <treehau55> enabled/disable 3d acceleration, ect
[18:05] <treehau55> nissim,  what graphics card do you have?
[18:06] <jluc> 'o
[18:06] <betrayd> sonofzeus which opart is confusing, paste that thing in a terminal and run it.
[18:06] <mojtaba> I used fusedav to mount webdav, but I got this error message: "PROPFIND failed: Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer" Does anybody know what should I do?
[18:06] <treehau55> nissim,  this may be a virtualbox specific question as well, and you may be able to get help in #vbox
[18:06] <sonofzeus> it says open the Startup Applications menu ?
[18:06] <sonofzeus> and add this entry
[18:06] <sonofzeus> LOL
[18:07] <betrayd> i'd do that when it runs fine
[18:07] <tzp> can anyone help a new user out
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> !ask | tzp
[18:07] <tzp> it might take a min, and i'd prefer it taken to a PM
[18:07] <tzp> ^^
[18:07] <Diranged> I know that with reprepro I cannot have a single repository that has multiple versions of a package… Is there any other way to do that?
[18:07] <Raimonds> http://askubuntu.com/questions/299189/booting-ubuntu-from-usb
[18:07] <Diranged> I want to be able to hold as many versions as I want of a particular package in a single repo..
[18:07] <hackoo> !ask | hackoo
[18:07] <vanishing> tzp: better ask what question first then pm
[18:08] <vanishing> the question*
[18:08] <nissim> treehau55, I have an Intel Q45/Q43 Chipset
[18:09] <hackoo> !patience
[18:09] <treehau55> nissim, ok you have integrated intel graphics
[18:09] <tzp> I am looking for a way to use my home desktop (Running 12.04) to work as a server so I can stream music to my phone or laptop when I am at home/office/friends house. I am not the best with the terminal yet so hopefully nothing really terminal heavy as a solution. I've looked into VPN but it all looks like remote desktop - which worries me due to the lag usually expereinced.
[18:09] <chirayu> tzp, try openvpn access server
[18:09] <roxton> So, FreeNX is trying to invoke dbus from //bin/dbus-launch. I'm not sure where to look to fix the configuration.
[18:10] <chirayu> it comes with 2 free user license
[18:10] <nissim> treehau55, thanks, I didnt get it working yet but I'll check out the virtual box settings
[18:10] <vanishing> chvx: openvpn can stream music?
[18:10] <chirayu> tzp: www.openvpn.net
[18:10] <hackoo> When I boot my laptop from Ubuntu my USB modem connection disconnects very frequently and stop showing network list. In such case I need to reinsert my modem again and again, not sure whats wrong with Ubuntu. The same modem works fine in the same latptop when I boot Windows 7.
[18:10] <tzp> I'm looking for more of a WEBUI solution than remote desktop. I don't need the desktop, just the files.
[18:10] <chvx> is same as the ram for swap.. for hibernate right?
[18:10] <chirayu> vanishing: openvpn is just a network protocol
[18:11] <chirayu> tzp: openvpn will enable network connectivity to your desktop behind a firewall
[18:11] <vanishing> chirayu: yea, but hes asking for a server solution, not a way to connect to a server inside some private network I think
[18:11] <tzp> vanishing yes
[18:11] <mojtaba> Does anybody have any idea, what should I do?
[18:11] <mojtaba> I used fusedav to mount webdav, but I got this error message: "PROPFIND failed: Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer" Does anybody know what should I do?
[18:12] <tzp> basicaly my laptop is an ultrabook so not much HD space
[18:12] <tzp> so i'd like to keep my music on my desktop but when i'm at work on my ultrabook be able to stream the movies/music on my desktop at home
[18:12] <chirayu> vanishing: do you see where he's going?
[18:12] <roxton> Is FreeNX still the recommended Ubuntu remote desktop solution, or is there something better these days?
[18:12] <vanishing> chirayu: yes...
[18:13] <chirayu> he's just not asking his question properly :P
[18:13] <vanishing> but you are way ahead
[18:13] <chirayu> he shall learn one way or another
[18:13] <chirayu> vanishing: agreed
[18:13] <hackoo> chvx: Yes. You need to have swap with same size as RAM
[18:13] <vanishing> tzp: easiest solution is apache i htink
[18:13] <vanishing> think*
[18:13] <betrayd>  lol i'm right here guys
[18:13] <vanishing> not the best solution
[18:14] <chvx> hackoo, no other reason to have swap than if i got 6gb ram then?
[18:14] <vanishing> chvx: i would keep swapiness very low
[18:15] <hackoo> chvx: Yes, I think so. Since 6 GB RAM is good enough and your swap will be hardly used. BTW Ubuntu 12.04+ have Hibernate disabled by default.
[18:15] <vanishing> tzp: actually, try ampache
[18:16] <tzp> ok
[18:16] <tzp> !google ampache
[18:16] <vanishing> tzp: sudo apt-get install ampache
[18:16] <vanishing> its even in the repo
[18:16] <chvx> hackoo, i dont know really if good for me? :S
[18:16] <tzp> nice.
[18:17] <hackoo> chvx: though you can still enable Hibernate but I suggest you to first check the Hibernate manually and see if your system starts correctly and then you should enable Hibernate/ have swap with 6 GB.
[18:17] <vanishing> tzp: after that, you will have to follow chirayu's points..:D
[18:17] <elisa87> do you know why I am receiving all these errors during the make? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5694515/
[18:17] <tzp> i bookmarked it
[18:17] <chvx> hackoo, is it possible to add swap later? or do i need to do that then i install?
[18:17] <tzp> i'll try it out when i get back home
[18:19] <hackoo> chvx: I have 4 GB RAM in my laptop so I made 4 GB swap just for of Hibernate. Because this feature is important for me, I work on several applications, when lots of files are open I don't like closing them.
[18:19] <betrayd> elisa87 any particular reason you needed to attempt MAKE?
[18:20] <hackoo> chvx: Yes, you can always add swap later. I think you can create swap in a file using dd and use it though not sure if that will be useful for hibernate or not. I think It should work.
[18:21] <elisa87> betrayd: I wanted to install gcc python pluggin and here's the files in that folder! How else should I install it if not by make? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5694527/
[18:22] <chvx> hackoo, i got a laptop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation_%28computing%29#Uses
[18:23] <betrayd> elisa87 might be the wrong channel, but at a glance you got your headers mixed in there with your .c's, normally the right path should open those  for you, and you rmake aint finding them
[18:23] <umib0zu> anyone know anything about kernels and kernel management? A while ago I asked about my /boot folder being full and was told to delete some of the older versions. turns out I was using virtualbox and it was putting kernels in there for my VMs. Not sure how to properly manage kernels to keep them from filling in the boot menu.
[18:25] <hackoo> chvx: Yes, I can see that. In Ubuntu 12.04+ Hibernate is discontinued just because of the fact that it's not reliable in all type of h/w. so it's suggested to check before enabling it.
[18:25] <chvx> hackoo, by the looks of the wiki its look like its important :)
[18:25] <backbox> of a live flash disk for backbox how do i get it to have me as root so  half the commands quit sayiing " run as root"
[18:26] <bazhang> what is backbox backbox
[18:26] <michagogo> !eol
[18:26] <umib0zu> nothing on my kernels? :-(
[18:26] <backbox> one of the linux distros
[18:26] <bazhang> backbox, its not supporte d here
[18:27] <chvx> hackoo, h/w?
[18:28] <backbox> am i allowed to ask questions involving a laptop hard drive with logical sectors that need remapped ?
[18:29] <hanab> umib0zu, no idea about the solution
[18:29] <Pici> backbox: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. So, if you need help with Ubuntu, then ask here.
[18:29] <elisa87> betrayd:  how should I include gcc-tree.h in my c program using "" or <> ? I am receiving this error when I use "" . gcc-c-api/gcc-tree.h:525:1: error: declaration for parameter 'gcc_vlexp_as_gcc_tree' but no such parameter
[18:29] <chvx> hackoo, so the disanvantage of it is that i doesnt work in hard kind of work?
[18:30] <hackoo> chvx: Yes. It depends on your work. If you don't have much things to save when you stop using your system then you just shut it down and don't need Hibernate but when you have lots of things you don't want to save or which cant be saved in between  then you need hibernate because sleep will keep consuming battery. So it all depends on the user.
[18:30] <BluesKaj> backbox, are you going to install ubuntu on that drive
[18:30] <backbox> yes
[18:30] <backbox> and it will nto let me
[18:31] <hackoo> hackoo: I didn't got what you say.
[18:33] <JC_SoCal> what is the proper term for what I am doing? I have an old version of linux ... I download the Ubuntu install ISO, unpack it, stick initrd.gz and linux in a directory and create an entry in grub to boot off of those -- and install the new version of ubuntu without a CD but from the hard drive?
[18:33] <betrayd> thats the thing elisa87. You're going to have to look elsewhere for c support, or python. You might be spending too much time here without getting anywhere
[18:34] <elisa87> what should I do? /lib/ld-linux.so.3: No such file or directory
[18:35] <simone29> ciao
[18:35] <simone29> !list
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  start from the beginning, what are you trying to achieve?
[18:36] <moondoggy> Has anyone gotten "ditaa" to work on Ubuntu?  12.04?
[18:36] <hackoo> !warez
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> elisa87  ignore my question, just scrolled up
[18:37] <isasha> O hai
[18:37] <chvx> hackoo, found an error in the text
[18:38] <isasha> I'm trying to set up a XBMC box for my parents with Live TV streaming from a bunch of direct streams that play directly in XBMC
[18:38] <isasha> Is this possible?
[18:38] <jordilopezamat> Hello everybody !!  i'm trying to Install Alternate Ubuntu Image from USB ...
[18:38] <jordilopezamat> By chance... ¿do you know why this workaround on Unetbootin options doesn't work for me  http://tinyurl.com/qenlw75 ? :-/
[18:39] <munzx> hi! i can not find skype although i have changed the "software source" to united states servers !
[18:39] <hackoo> !o4o
[18:39] <dgandhi> greetings all, I'm setting up a couple 802.1q vlans over an LACP trunk, but it requires me run "ifconfig bond0.99 up" to bring up the second vlan at boot. The LACP bonded group comes up, the first  vlan comes up, but the second one does not - the order in interfaces does not effect which comes up. The second interface is configured address/mask etc, so it just requires up. known issue? any suggestions?
[18:39] <bazhang> hackoo, /msg ubottu
[18:40] <jordilopezamat> ... i'm puzzled, after hours of trying a workaround that is supposed to work with others... but not in my case !
[18:40] <jordilopezamat> thanks beforehand
[18:41] <BluesKaj> isasha, recommend you read the the XBMC web manual , and if you still have questions ask in the #xbmc channel
[18:42] <jordilopezamat> any hints ?
[18:42] <isasha> Oh well. I thought here would be better as this is xbmcbuntu I'm talking about.
[18:42] <isasha> But thanks
[18:44] <michagogo> I'm running Windows 7 x64 on an HP Pavilion dv6t-7000 Quad Edition laptop with 8GB RAM, Core i7-3610QM, with Intel's Ivy Bridge graphics, and an Nvidia GeForce GT 630M with 1GB memory. I have a 3TB USB3 hard drive, currently in one partition formatted for Mac. Can I create a new partition on the external HD, install Ubuntu on it, and boot to it without affecting my computer or the existing
[18:44] <michagogo> partition on the external HD?
[18:45] <munzx> guys! i know that this is a silly question but why i cant find skype in software center ?!
[18:45] <nubuntu> hi guys
[18:45] <michagogo> In other words, can I install Ubuntu on a partition on an external drive in a way that will not leave the computer changed once it's shut down and the drive is removed?
[18:45] <gordonjcp> michagogo: yes, of course
[18:46] <gordonjcp> !skype | munzx
[18:46] <gordonjcp> munzx: but in general it's because the licence doesn't allow it to be redistributed
[18:46] <michagogo> gordonjcp: And can I do that on a new partition on a currently Mac-formatted external drive without losing the current contents of the drive?
[18:46] <bazhang> munzx, its in partner repo
[18:46] <gordonjcp> michagogo: that could be tricky
[18:47] <bazhang> !info skype partner | munzx gordonjcp
[18:47] <gordonjcp> michagogo: you'd have to repartition the drive
[18:47] <gordonjcp> bazhang: oh, okay, thanks for the heads-up
[18:47] <chvx> hackoo, then you mean hard work what do you mean?
[18:47] <elisa87> my arm gcc compiler requires /lib/ld-linux.so.3 ,  but I just have this lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Jan 28 06:30 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 -> i386-linux-gnu/ld-2.15.so, do you know what's the solution?
[18:48] <michagogo> gordonjcp: I know. My question is, can that be done in a way that will leave the current data in place?
[18:48] <munzx>  gordonjcp: i have downloaded skype on 12.4 and earlier versions but when i upgraded to 13.4 i could not find it!
[18:48] <michagogo> (and able to be mounted by a Mac afterwards)
[18:48] <bazhang> munzx, its in the partner repo as I just said
[18:48] <munzx>  gordonjcp: i dont think that because of a policy! or a license!
[18:50] <echoe> nobody knows of any way to undervolt ubuntu 12.04? my computer's pretty unusable without undervolting
[18:51] <munzx> bazhang: ok , thnx :) just a sc
[18:51] <munzx> sec
[18:55] <munzx> bazhang: thnx :D that worked!
[18:56] <dgandhi> is there a better channel to ask obscure networking questions for ubuntu/debian?
[18:56] <chirayu> dgandhi: what's your question?
[18:56] <dgandhi> I'm setting up a couple 802.1q vlans over an LACP trunk, but it requires me run "ifconfig bond0.99 up" to bring up the second vlan at boot. The LACP bonded group comes up, the first  vlan comes up, but the second one does not - the order in interfaces does not effect which comes up. The second interface is configured address/mask etc, so it just requires up. known issue? any suggestions?
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> dgandhi  obscure, as in 'illegal'?
[18:58] <dgandhi> MonkeyDust: as in odd, uncommon.
[18:58] <michagogo> gordonjcp: Can an external drive currently formatted for Mac have a partition added and Ubuntu installed in a way that won't remove the Mac partition, leaving it mountable by a Mac afterwards?
[18:59] <Greygan> I was in here the other day and was asking about an issue I have in Unity where the menu bars and close/minimize buttons dissapeared after installing a n Nvidia diriver. I had decided to just run in Gnome as it still worked. But when I do a "systems test" it sayd "no display drivers installed, may be running in failsafe" would that be the cause of my unity issue?
[19:00] <dhanasekaran> How to download complete maven remote repository to Local repository
[19:02] <myxa> does any know how to locate Cobol compiler
[19:02] <llutz> !info open-cobol | myxa:
[19:05] <elisa87> how can I know if a package is already installed ? like "qemu-system" ??
[19:05] <llutz> elisa87: apt-cache policy packagename
[19:05] <llutz> elisa87: or dpkg -l packagename
[19:06] <SteveBell> hi all. I installed 13.04 on a toshiba nb 305. worked great at first but after updating to the latest kernel I am now running into http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 it seems. I tried the suggested fix but to no avail. what can I do now? do I really need to reinstall this again from bootable USB?
[19:06] <elisa87> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5694668/ it is find with dpkg but -v doesn't show it's version
[19:07] <Greygan> My missing Menu bars, etc are in the Unity environment in 13.04 btw
[19:08] <pagios_> hello, trying to run wpa_supplicant, getting ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: Operation not permitted
[19:08] <pagios_> as root
[19:08] <llutz> elisa87: the version is shown in your paste
[19:08] <elisa87> llutz: so why am I receiving this? qemu-system: command not found
[19:08] <llutz> elisa87: ls -l /usr/bin/qemu-system*
[19:14] <elisa87> llutz: do you know the solution to this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5694692/
[19:14] <elisa87> I don't know how to solve this error regarding running my executable http://paste.ubuntu.com/5694692/
[19:14] <treehau55> Error in the docs -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq ; dhclient.conf is in /etc/dhcp/ not /etc/dhcp3/
[19:15] <llutz> !find /lib/ld-linux.so.3
[19:15] <llutz> elisa87: ^
[19:15] <K1rk> Hey, I'm trying to remove Suspend & Hibernate options from Indicator-Session... I am not finding any tutorials which work.  Here is my thread on the Ubuntu Forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147996  Any suggestions?
[19:16] <kristenbb> hi all, I'm here once again to try to solve my installation issue. Anyone here that helped me from yesterday or the days before ?
[19:16] <SteveBell> ok let's reinstall. can someone recommend a software to create the bootable USB stick? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows is for windows only
[19:16] <bazhang> kristenbb, check th e logs
[19:16] <K1rk> kristenbb, I wasn't helping you before, but I'd be happy to help you now.
[19:16] <SteveBell> I#d need OS X
[19:16] <bazhang> !1984 | kristenbb
[19:17] <Greygan> I guess I will try installing the driver again. Any suggestions as to where I can find a compatible Nvidia driver? (EVGA 7900 GTX)
[19:19] <kristenbb> K1rk: so let's try to sum up the problem. I am trying to install ubuntu 13.04 on a ssd (sdb). No other os involved. There is also a sda with data on it. The sda is gpt. When I install it on sdb, it goes well, but then I get "error: no such partition" when I try to launch it. I tried many things in the last 6 days, including around 8 installations, manual or automatic, repairing the grub with a chroot or with a graphical tool, and so forth. What to
[19:19] <K1rk> kristenbb, are you sure your BIOS is booting to sdb?
[19:19] <K1rk> If you installed GRUB on sdb, and your BIOS is booting to sda, you might be finding that you have no boot loader, because there isn't one on sda.
[19:20] <K1rk> Does that make sense?
[19:20] <kristenbb> K1rk: yes, I tried booting  to both, I get the same error message.
[19:20] <K1rk> kristenbb, have you tried installing with sda removed from the machine?  That would eliminate any possibility of an error where you're booting to the wrong drive or installing the boot loader on the wrong drive, etc
[19:22] <kristenbb> K1rk: this is the point where I actually left off yesterday, it's something I would have rather avoided, since I am a girl and I'm not good with hardware stuff (I didn't do the setup), and since I know that this setup was able to boot 12.04 just fine.
[19:23] <K1rk> kristenbb, hey, my best friend is a girl and I walked her through upgrading her power supply over the phone.  Amazing things do happen. :P
[19:23] <betrayd> Greygar did you just try 310 nvidia drivers, step back to 304 maybe
[19:23] <K1rk> kristenbb, Nevertheless, that's understandable, I just figured that would be an easy way to make sure.
[19:23] <kristenbb> but I mean why change something that is known to be working
[19:24] <K1rk> kristenbb, would you mind taking a picture of the "partition not found" error?
[19:24] <K1rk> I'd like to see if it looks like a GRUB error, or a BIOS error, etc...
[19:25] <kristenbb> K1rk: it's quite simple. It's a black screen, with white letters on it. It says:
[19:25] <kristenbb> error: no such partition
[19:25] <kristenbb> grub rescue>
[19:25] <kristenbb> (the last line is a prompt)
[19:25] <betrayd> inow thats a screenshot
[19:26] <K1rk> kristenbb, okay so it's a grub error.
[19:26] <K1rk> kristenbb, so it sounds like grub is loading which means it's not a bios boot problem.
[19:27] <kristenbb> do you know what I could write from this prompt in order to fix it ? I was told yesterday that this error could be due to a wrong UUID in the grub configuration
[19:27] <K1rk> kristenbb, suppose that's possible, though I don't know why the UUID would have become wrong.
[19:27] <K1rk> kristenbb, has anyone had you try boot-repair yet?
[19:27] <kristenbb> meaning, a leftover from a previous installation, or something like that
[19:28] <kristenbb> yes, I used the boot repair graphical tool, and I used 'grub install' and 'update-grub' in a chrooted environment.
[19:28] <kristenbb> (which I tried installing on both devices, just to make sure)
[19:30] <betrayd> if you hit tab theres a command to show blkid's
[19:30] <K1rk> kristenbb, if you really believe the UUID is the problem... I would try modifying /etc/default/grub, and uncommenting the line "GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID".  Then it will pass /dev/sd# to Linux instead of a potentially incorrect UUID.  You'll need to update-grub and such after doing the change to the defaults file, of course.
[19:30] <jch2os> having an issue where I can't su to backuppc, but I think it is a linux issue.  I tried logging in as non root and it kicks me right out
[19:30] <jch2os> Cannot execute /bin/sh: Permission denied su: User not known to the underlying authentication module
[19:30] <kristenbb> K1rk: no i don't believe anything, i'm just a regular user who would like to install ubuntu :)
[19:31] <kristenbb> K1rk: but ok sure I could try that
[19:31] <kristenbb> K1rk: so I need to run a live cd, right,
[19:31] <kristenbb> ?
[19:31] <jch2os> ls -l /bin/sh lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Mar 29  2012 /bin/sh -> dash
[19:31] <K1rk> kristenbb, yeah, unless you can boot into recovery mode from grub, which it sounds like you won't be able to.
[19:32] <K1rk> kristenbb, these are the lines in the grub defaults file and some explanations.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Specific_Entries
[19:32] <K1rk> kristenbb, if you set GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID="true" it should pass /dev/sdb1 instead of a UUID.
[19:32] <betrayd> jch2os whats the actual problem, booting to a text login instead of GYU desktop?
[19:33] <betrayd> GUI*
[19:33] <jch2os> betrayd - this is server 12.04 so no gui
[19:33] <jch2os> but if I try to ssh in as usera, it says I don't have permission to the home directory and /bin/bash permission denied
[19:33] <kristenbb> K1rk: oh yeah another point that comes to mind and that I forgot to mention. Yesterday I was helped to do an installation step by step, and right before installing I get a warning saying I just reserve 30MB of partition to EFI. If that helps to understand the issue...
[19:34] <kristenbb> I should* reserve
[19:34] <K1rk> kristenbb, ah yeah I had an annoying problem like this with one of my huge deployments....
[19:34] <K1rk> kristenbb, I had 800 computers I'd installed this image onto, and a GRUB update was making them all drop like flies.
[19:34] <K1rk> I came up with a "fix".
[19:35] <K1rk> kristenbb, if your disk is GPT but you aren't using a "proper GUID partition table", GRUB install will fail.
[19:35] <K1rk> kristenbb, you can either fix your partition table as described (with the extra free space), or switch to an MS-DOS partition table, or use --force when installing grub.
[19:35] <K1rk> kristenbb, grub-install /dev/sdb --force
[19:35] <kristenbb> K1rk: i don't think the sdb is gpt anymore. It was at one point, but someone had me switch it back to mbr during the 6th install yesterday.
[19:35] <K1rk> kristenbb, when you ran grub-install, I imagine you saw that error that said something about that space... and then "embedding is unreliable and not recommended" etc.
[19:36] <kristenbb> K1rk: no I don't recall having such an error.
[19:37] <Rapp> hi everyone
[19:37] <K1rk> kristenbb, okay you might have a different problem than the one I had to deal with, but it sounds like they could still be related.  Did you get any errors during grub-install?
[19:37] <kristenbb> K1rk: so wait, you gave me many options there, --force, fix with extra space, swith to msdos, update grub, ... which one should I do first ?
[19:37] <Rapp> i am in the progress of upgrading from 11 to 12.04 (precise?)
[19:37] <Rapp> during the update the process, my desktop vanished.
[19:37] <kristenbb> K1rk: no i didn't get any errors, it went fine but didn't help to solve my issue.
[19:37] <K1rk> kristenbb, if --force fixes it, you'll want to do something better because that's just a band-aid. The next GRUB update will break it again.
[19:37] <Rapp> i stil have X and the mouse cursor, and it seems that the programs are all still running
[19:38] <Rapp> but the windows are not shown anymore. any ideas? can i restart the machine? dpkg seems to have finished. don't see it in the process list anymore
[19:38] <K1rk> kristenbb, I chose to switch to ms-dos partition table because nobody could tell me what a proper GUID partition table is. It seems there are varying "opinions" on it.  To me, it should be fact...
[19:38] <K1rk> kristenbb, do you have a UEFI BIOS?
[19:38] <kristenbb> K1rk: the problem is, sdb now is msdos, but the problem is still here.
[19:39] <kristenbb> K1rk: yes I do
[19:39] <elisa87> ./sift /research/jalal/sdvb/sd-vbs/benchmarks/mser/data/vgaqemu: uncaught target signal 4 (Illegal instruction) - core dumpedIllegal instruction (core dumped)  (do you know how to solve this?)
[19:39] <K1rk> kristenbb, is it in "compatibility mode"?
[19:39] <kristenbb> K1rk: I don't know what this means.
[19:39] <K1rk> kristenbb, don't hold me to it, but I *think* UEFI computers need to boot to a GPT drive unless they're in compatibility mode.
[19:40] <kristenbb> uefi bios means a bios where the mouse works, right ?
[19:40] <K1rk> kristenbb, then again all of our UEFI machines boot up just fine to my MBR\MS-DOS partitioning.
[19:40] <th0r> K1rk: I have been following kristenbb 's issue for a couple of days and have been surprised no one else has come to that point.
[19:40] <K1rk> kristenbb, I've never heard it defined that way.
[19:40] <K1rk> th0r, yeah?
[19:40] <K1rk> th0r, why didn't you mention it then?
[19:40] <Guest30636> hello, my software-center stopped working, i tried using console and it shows this Translation has an invalid value 'I-->D' for default text direction.  Defaulting to left-to-right
[19:41] <th0r> K1rk: I have no experience with UEFI, hadn't even read anything about it until kristenbb mentioned the ssb was identifying as EFI. Have been watching the issue in the hopes of learning something about it <smile>
[19:41] <kristenbb> K1rk: in that case i'm not 100% sure I have a uefi bios, but I think so. it's a very recent mother board.
[19:42] <K1rk> kristenbb, UEFI is kind of messy... it deals with "operating system licenses" and stuff I think has no place on a computer.  But it's possible that the UEFI is messing with your boot process because of this licensing.
[19:42] <kristenbb> K1rk: so what would you like me to try from here?
[19:42] <XXX> Hi.
[19:43] <Guest89974> i have some files to put together
[19:43] <K1rk> kristenbb, hold on, I'm looking at one of my ThinkPads here which I believe has an UEFI BIOS.
[19:43] <elisa87> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5694784/  what should I do for undefined reference to `pthread_create' ??
[19:43] <Guest89974> cat segment{1..200} works fine
[19:43] <seronis> kristenbb:  i know NOTHING..  but a (very young) aquaintence of mine just y esterday got GPT working on his uefi system
[19:43] <Guest89974> but can i replace it with variables?
[19:44] <seronis> want me to have him come into irc ?
[19:44] <Guest89974> cat segment{$a..$b}>newfile doesn't work
[19:44] <K1rk> kristenbb, th0r, I've located the area of the BIOS on my ThinkPads which I'm referring to... give me a moment to upload a few photos.
[19:44] <kristenbb> seronis: well I honestly have no idea what is uefi, gpt and all this stuff, so I'm not sure it's even related to my issue.
[19:45] <Guest89974> anyone?
[19:45] <K1rk> kristenbb, it could seriously be...
[19:45] <kristenbb> sure
[19:46] <K1rk> kristenbb, th0r, take a look at this.  This is my UEFI BIOS.  http://binaryimpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/2013-05-23-14.44.05.jpg
[19:47] <K1rk> kristenbb, th0r, this is the BIOS setting I had to change to make MS-DOS \ MBR partitions work properly.  This was the *only way* I could get these machines to boot with a 10.04 image I was re-using from older legacy computers. http://binaryimpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/2013-05-23-14.44.27.jpg
[19:47] <K1rk> kristenbb, I would look for settings like that in your BIOS...
[19:48] <K1rk> kristenbb, I'm less inclined to think UEFI is the problem because GRUB is partially loading... but I would still check this.
[19:48] <Ahmedo> hello, lotus, fixed the problem
[19:48] <ShayGuy> I need help for what might be a hopeless cause: http://askubuntu.com/q/299118/38459
[19:49] <Ahmedo> i have other problem right now
[19:49] <th0r> K1rk: kristenbb mentioned a couple of times looking at the ssd partitions and seeing it identifying as EFI. I was thinking if the ssd is EFI but the bios isn't capable.......
[19:49] <Ahmedo> can someone assist me step-by-step on installing burg, because when i install it the grub got currupted
[19:50] <K1rk> th0r, your statement implies a misunderstanding of EFI, as I understand EFI.
[19:50] <K1rk> th0r, a disk drive itself cannot be EFI.
[19:50] <kristenbb> K1rk: so again, what is it that you want me to try exactly ? this is all quite gibberish to me...
[19:50] <K1rk> th0r, a BIOS is EFI, and a partitioning scheme is EFI compliant.
[19:50] <th0r> K1rk: which is why I didn't say anything <smile>
[19:50] <K1rk> kristenbb, look in your BIOS for the boot\startup settings and find "legacy boot" options...make sure those are turned on.
[19:51] <kristenbb> so shut down the live cd ? it's loaded right now...
[19:51] <K1rk> kristenbb, if you wanted to try my grub-install /dev/sdb --force, feel free to do that while you're in the Live CD...
[19:51] <K1rk> Otherwise I'd head over to the BIOS and check for your UEFI Legacy Boot settings.
[19:52] <K1rk> th0r, as I understand it, GPT partitioning table is EFI compliant.
[19:52] <Kitt3n> Yup
[19:52] <K1rk> th0r, when I took a normal MS-DOS partitioned Ubuntu 10.04 image that has worked on hundreds of computers, I imaged these new ThinkPads, and they didn't boot up.  I found those BIOS settings, and changing them resolved the problem.
[19:52] <kristenbb> K1rk: i would just like to mention that sdb is still gpt, although I had set it to mbr yesterday.
[19:53] <K1rk> kristenbb, yeah that's okay... if it's not proper GPT it could still mess with the EFI.
[19:53] <K1rk> I'd still look at changing this.
[19:53] <ShayGuy> I need help for what might be a hopeless cause: http://askubuntu.com/q/299118/38459
[19:53] <kristenbb> so should I try this grub-install ? What to do in order to achieve that?
[19:53] <diegoxt24> i can't open software-center anymore it shows me a translation error
[19:54] <K1rk> kristenbb, while you're on the live cd you might as well.
[19:54] <Ahmedo> hello , i need help on burg bootloader
[19:54] <michagogo> I have a Mac-formatted external drive. Can I add a partition for Ubuntu, install Ubuntu including bootloader on it, and keep the current partition visible to Mac?
[19:54] <K1rk> grub-install /dev/sdb --force
[19:55] <kristenbb> K1rk: from a chrooted environment?
[19:55] <betrayd> SHayguy time to get acquainted twith real copy and paste
[19:56] <ShayGuy> betrayd: Huh?
[19:56] <betrayd> hayguy hightlight selected text with l click drag
[19:57] <Ahmedo> any one well known with burg ?
[19:57] <bazhang> !info burg | Ahmedo
[19:57] <bazhang> Ahmedo, ask the burg developers
[19:57] <Ahmedo> is it ok to ask where to find them ?
[19:58] <bazhang> Ahmedo, the burg homepage perhaps
[19:58] <ShayGuy> betrayd: What do you mean? I can't change anything in the X session but the mouse position.
[19:58] <th0r> K1rk: thanks...I am now less ignorant of UEFI <smile>.
[19:58] <K1rk> kristenbb, same way you did it before.
[19:59] <K1rk> th0r, yeah no problem.
[19:59] <K1rk> th0r, I'm still no expert... I just know UEFI is a pain in my side.
[19:59] <Ahmedo> the documents isin ubuntu archives the code is from launchpad
[19:59] <Kitt3n> My computer is a pain in my side. GPT partitions and the only UEFI option I have is a built-in shell
[19:59] <th0r> K1rk: I have read disparaging threads about it, but never dug into it at all until kristenbb brought the issue up the other day.
[19:59] <kristenbb> K1rk: well that's my point i'm not sure I remember :)
[19:59] <betrayd> Shayguy ctrl-A selects all?
[20:01] <ShayGuy> betrayd: Um... you do understand what the problem is, right? The session's frozen, like I said in the link. I can't even *access* the text editor.
[20:02] <betrayd> there is a scratch file for t ailed edit sessions, can you locate it
[20:02] <betrayd> ifailed*
[20:03] <betrayd> or you sound like you've given up
[20:04] <elky> how do i make rhythmbox make a playlist with all my musics, or, how can i make it export me a list of all my musics?
[20:04] <sw0rdfish> hi
[20:04] <elky> it seems to not do things that its menus have :-/
[20:05] <estudiante> auto
[20:06] <ShayGuy> betrayd: Scratch file?
[20:07] <betrayd> Shayguy yeah there could be one, vi has .filename.swp and offers recovery
[20:07] <betrayd> Shayguy  its like your workplace until you hit save
[20:11] <ShayGuy> betrayd: I don't know anything about where gedit would keep that, or how to access it if it's not saved to a normal file. Unless you're talking about the version with a tilde at the end, and that's no good.
[20:13] <SteveBell> hi all, I'm running into big problems with my ubuntu install.
[20:13] <SteveBell> so I'd like to reinstall.
[20:14] <SteveBell> but how do I create a bootable USB drive for a machine with broken ubuntu on a OS X machine?
[20:14] <Ahmedo> am doing every per instuction in ubuntu and grub homepage , still the grubs get currupted
[20:14] <Jerry> hello
[20:14] <Jerry> xchat iz the best
[20:14] <Jerry> what do we chat about here?
[20:14] <SteveBell> I found unetbootin but that produces an usb stick which does not boot correctly in the netbook on which I want to install ubuntu
[20:15] <Jerry> all my exes live in texas
[20:15] <k1l> !offtopic | Jerry
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> Ahmedo, This ppa installs the full burg package including themes up to raring. https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/burg
[20:16] <echoe> does anyone know any linux anything with undervolting?
[20:16] <echoe> blah.
[20:16] <catcher> Ubuntu is suddenly prompting me for my ssh passphrase (id_dsa).  It's normally stored by the OS, not sure what the program is called. Any ideas why it's not happening suddenly?
[20:17] <Ziber> So, I've been having strange audio audio issues with skype and google hangout. Good ways to troubleshoot?
[20:17] <betrayd> Shayguy what about with a tilde prefix....
[20:17] <SteveBell> no one knows?
[20:18] <echoe> SteveBell, is unetbootin available for mac?
[20:18] <echoe> ... doesn't boot correctly on netbook. what error does it give?
[20:18] <SteveBell> yes. but the usb is not working on the netbook after that
[20:18] <ubuntu> sanjay
[20:18] <SteveBell> well unetbootin says the stick will only boot on a mac
[20:19] <ShayGuy> betrayd: A tilde *prefix*? "ls -a | grep filename" only returns filename.txt and filename.txt~.
[20:19] <SteveBell> so maybe that#s the problem?
[20:19]  * echoe blinks. steve, that shouldn't be an issue
[20:19] <tables> my ubuntu all of a sudden stopped booting and goes to BusyBox with a terminal saying (initramfs)
[20:19] <tables> anyone know how to fix this?
[20:20] <Ahmedo> whilee-nilee still grub crashs
[20:20] <echoe> you can always try this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[20:20] <SteveBell> I put it in the netbook. start. F12, select the usb stick to boot from, then I land on the broken current ubuntu installation (which no longer boots for me due to nomodeset.
[20:20] <SteveBell> so that should work on non os x machines afterwards?
[20:21] <SteveBell> echoe is that's the case then I'll give that a try
[20:21] <echoe> the unetbootin one should too, not sure why it isn't, apparently the netbook isn't atching the USB stick. you may want to try using a different port too, lol. hacky but it can work
[20:22] <SteveBell> I used the recommended tool for windows and that worked.
[20:22] <betrayd> Shayguy if you had left autosave as is,  GEDIT by default has an option enabled which creates a backup file (with the prefix ~ for the backup file)...
[20:22] <SteveBell> and after installing successful I'm now stuck with the nomodeset issue after doing some updates
[20:23] <ShayGuy> betrayd: Well, there's nothing of the sort in the directory where the regular file is saved.
[20:24] <Ziber> On ubuntu 12.10, sometimes other people can't hear my audio, other times i can't hear there's. google hangout usually works, but often disconnects after a few minutes. Thoughts? I really need video chatting.
[20:24] <Ahmedo> whilee-nilee still grub crashs
[20:24] <betrayd> Shayguyf ~<tab-complete> won't do anything then thats it I'm afraid
[20:25] <betrayd> Shayguy if* ^
[20:26] <josetacos> i can't install ubuntu spent the whole night trying. After 'Preparing to install Ubuntu' screen, the installation hangs
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> Ahmedo, What do you mean by grub crashing?
[20:27] <SonikkuAmerica> josetacos: Desktop CD?
[20:27] <Fieldy> how do i configure which services start at boot? someone told me to use "bum" and i deselected dnsmasq, rebooted, but it still starts. then i did an apt-get remove dnsmasq, rebooted, and it still starts (??). call me confused.
[20:27] <SonikkuAmerica> josetacos: s/CD/image
[20:28] <josetacos> live desktop usb
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica> josetacos: Try the !alternate image instead.
[20:28] <bazhang> SonikkuAmerica, the alternate is gone, you realize
[20:28] <josetacos> what do you mean by alternate
[20:29] <josetacos> i think this is the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1080701
[20:29] <DJones> !alternate | josetacos You would have to use the minimal install cd now rather than alternate,
[20:30] <DJones> !minimal
[20:31] <seronis> i know how to use  add-apt-repository  to enable PPAs, but how to i set up a LOCAL directory as a repo ?
[20:31] <josetacos> i have tried sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get install ubiquity
[20:31] <seronis> in case i want to tweak packages and let my local copy work automatically
[20:32] <sacredchao> I am trying to use Nvidia driver 319 in Optimus mode on my Thinkpad T420s, but I can't get the DisplayPort to output anything!  Bumblebee is working great
[20:32] <sacredchao> The DP1 is ahrdwired to the Nvidia card, but it's not showing up
[20:34] <seronis> nevermind..  had been searching but finally found what i needed.   http://linuxwave.blogspot.com/2009/04/adding-local-directory-to-apt.html
[20:39] <josetacos> got the mini installer running thanks
[20:43] <tables> my ubuntu all of a sudden stopped booting and goes to BusyBox with a terminal saying (initramfs)
[20:43] <tables> my ubuntu all of a sudden stopped booting and goes to BusyBox with a terminal saying (initramfs)
[20:43] <tables> anyone know how to fix this?
[20:43] <FloodBot1> tables: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <tables> sry for double post
[20:43] <lmat> tables: Do you get a prompt?
[20:44] <tables> yea it says (initramfs)
[20:44] <lmat> tables: And you can run "ls", etc.?
[20:44] <erols> hi, my ubuntu server 12.04 stucks at fsck on my /dev/sda3 drive, after a reboot command. Any idea how I can skip that?
[20:44] <lmat> erols: modify /etc/fstab and remove that device?
[20:45] <lmat> erols: Or you're just wanting to skip fsck on that device?
[20:45] <lmat> erols: (my suggestion will make that device not mount).
[20:45] <erols> actually it's running atm on 60/1204 things
[20:46] <erols> sorry, it's /dev/sda3: clean 60/3055616 files
[20:46] <alexbligh> Anyone know how to persuade debootstrap to use precise-updates to install from, rather than precise?
[20:47] <erols> only stuck there and cannot boot the systems
[20:47] <tables> lmat yes, but it looks limited
[20:47] <erols> if I press on ctrl c
[20:47] <erols> it reboot
[20:47] <erols> and the same things goes again.
[20:47] <lmat> tables: So perhaps this is the grub command line?
[20:48] <sammy> booting my lappy up recently, I've noticed brightness controls weren't working, and my console font size was changed back to default. booting this morning, my brightness controls are back, but my console font size is still making an 80x24 terminal on tty1. what could have happened?
[20:48] <sammy> s/I've/I/
[20:48] <lmat> sammy: Did you run grub-mkconfig recently?
[20:49] <lmat> tables: So it doesn't say "grub>" ?
[20:49] <sammy> lmat: I believe the kernel may have updated, but I haven't made any changes to /etc/default/grub in forever
[20:49] <lmat> sammy: neato!
[20:50] <sammy> lmat: are you saying grub-mkconfig may have goofed my video mode or some such at some point? does that run when kernels are updated? (the grub-mkconfig you spoke of)
[20:51] <sammy> I just ran dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and Im about to reboot and see if manually selecting the smallest Terminus font fixed things
[20:51] <erols> seems like nobody experienced the problem with btrfs in 12.04
[20:51] <lmat> sammy: I think so...
[20:51] <tables> lmat, no it doesn't say grub
[20:51] <lmat> sammy: ubuntu does something different with the console and I don't know how it works.
[20:52] <sammy> lmat: Ill see what happens after a reboot (since I was playing with conosle-setup lastnight when brightness was borked) and see if that did it. if not i'll investigate /etc/default/grub and poke around askubuntu. ill let you know if I find out what 'something different' ubuntu does ;)
[20:52] <lmat> sammy: What you're getting I think is the default behaviour. Ubuntu automatically makes the frame buffer fit the screen and I don't think it's through grub configuration.
[20:53] <lmat> sammy: I remember that I installed Arch Linux and worked for a while to get the frame buffer to take up the whole screen, but when I installed Ubuntu, it Just Worked.
[20:53] <lmat> sammy: Which sounds nice...except it's terribly annoying
[20:53] <sammy> lmat: that sounds like what happened, it seems to have reverted to default. xdiagnose has some options (I think it adds to the kernel cmdline in grub) that disable the initial fb device for the bootspalsh
[20:53] <sammy> yeah everything was JustWorking yesterday. I combed /var/log/apt/history.log* but couldn't find anything that might have messed with the fb or anything like that recently
[20:54] <sleewok> hey everyone
[20:54] <lmat> How do I see what video card I have installed?
[20:54] <lmat> I ran lspci -v | grep -C 5 VGA
[20:54] <sammy> just try lspci
[20:54] <bekks> lmat: lspci|grep -i VGA
[20:54] <lmat> And it says "VGA compatible controller: ... AMD nee ATI Device 682d (prog-if
[20:54] <sammy> you should be able to pick it out of the list
[20:54] <lmat> 00 [VGA controller])
[20:54] <lmat> Talk about vague!
[20:54] <sleewok> I'm trying to install a package and i specified the wrong config during the initiall apt-get install. Now when I attempt to re-install with apt-get it skips the question. How can i clear this?
[20:55] <lmat> sleewok: probably apt-get purge package
[20:55] <sleewok> already tried that
[20:55] <sammy> the grep is pulling out any additional information. try lspci -v and use shift-pgup to find the VGA device
[20:55] <lmat> sleewok: To get rid of the application *and* configuration.
[20:55] <sammy> the second line after the line you're grepping may have a specific product name
[20:55] <sammy> erm actually the line after, excuse me
[20:55] <lmat> sammy: That's why I gave -C 5
[20:55] <sleewok> lmat, yeah,it doesn't work...it will still ask me some of the questions, but not the one that breaks it
[20:56] <yeats> sleewok: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>' may work?
[20:56] <sleewok> yeats, i'll try that
[20:56] <lmat> sammy: The line after is Subsystem: Dell Device 053e
[20:56] <lmat> sammy: And the line after that:  Flags: bus master, fast dev...
[20:56] <VictorCL> hi
[20:57] <VictorCL> I need to decompress a bunch of .gz files and its files in subdirectories . how can I do this with a command?
[20:57] <sammy> yeah I'm. i need to eat, sorry. low blood sugar :P if it says 682d its probably identifying it by chipset. youd have to google to see what actual marketed product name you have
[20:57] <lmat> sammy: okilie dokilie!!
[20:57] <lmat> sammy: http://openbenchmarking.org/s/AMD%20ATI%20Device%20682d
[20:58] <lmat> sam113101: Looks like openbenchmarking agrees with you, but doesn't give a product name :(
[20:58] <sleewok> yeats, It tells me that the package is broken or not fully installed. i'm wondering if the apt install config is broken or something
[20:58] <elisa87> how can I know what is causing error in my C program after make? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5695041/
[20:58] <lmat> (Of course, really what I want is proper drivers for the thing...)
[20:58] <lmat> elisa87: dude, wrong channel. Check ##c
[21:00] <yeats> sleewok: 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[21:01] <nosmelc> Why is the Ubuntu 13.04 Desktop ISO too big to burn onto a CD?
[21:01] <bekks> nosmelc: Because it is designed to be a DVD.
[21:01] <sleewok> yeats, still skips the question...this is crazy
[21:01] <yeats> sleewok: can you pastebin what you're seeing?
[21:01] <nosmelc> bekks: ohh ok.  Weird how it's just a bit bigger than a CD
[21:02] <Micha|iPhone> What's the "downloading language packs" stage of the installer on 12.04?
[21:02] <lmat> sammy, I need you!!
[21:03] <tyrog> Micha|iPhone: its downloading the language packages for the language you selected for your system, since not all language packs are included in the DVD itself
[21:03] <Micha|iPhone> tyrog: Pretty sure I wasn't asked a language, except for the keyboard (en-us)
[21:03] <sleewok> yeats, I think it's going to be easier for me to just re-install the OS (and then just set the correct value the first time). I appreciate the attempt to help though.
[21:03] <Micha|iPhone> Also, it said it was downloading libreoffice
[21:04] <lmat> sleewok: don't neglect the VM.
[21:04] <tyrog> Micha|iPhone: What media are you using? Ubuntu 12.04.2 liveCD from the website?
[21:04] <sleewok> :)
[21:04] <yeats> sleewok: okay sure
[21:04] <lmat> sleewok: If you need to practice something or run down a bug like that, a vm is really easy to get going :)
[21:04] <tyrog> Micha|iPhone: the language is asked in the first step of the installer
[21:04] <lmat> sleewok: and cheap :) And it doesn't wreck your computer.
[21:04] <Micha|iPhone> tyrog: The 12.04.2 amd64 desktop iso from bittorrent off a liveusb
[21:04] <sleewok> lmat, I've got it running in a vm, i'll just revert to before i broke it
[21:04] <zeest> How do you make all the files in a directory and its subdirectories executable?
[21:04] <Micha|iPhone> tyrog: Oh, right
[21:05] <lmat> sleewok: perfect! :o
[21:05] <sleewok> lmat, for some reason didn't think of that, so thanks for the reminder :)
[21:05] <Micha|iPhone> tyrog: Anyway, I selected English
[21:05] <Micha|iPhone> And, it was downloading libreoffice-something
[21:05] <tyrog> Micha|iPhone: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-desktop-long-term-support see the first screenshot on this page, that is the point where you select the language
[21:05] <yeats> sleewok: still good to learn how to fix dpkg/apt errors if you're serious about self-administration IMHO, but I understand doing what's easiest ;-)
[21:06] <Micha|iPhone> Yeah, I remember that
[21:06] <sleewok> yeats, yeah, If i only had the time
[21:06] <Micha|iPhone> Why was it downloading libreoffice-something and calling it a language pack, thoigh?
[21:06] <tyrog> Micha|iPhone: Then you selected the checkbox "Download updates while installing", so it is fetching the remaining language packs from the mirrors, as long as you are connected to the Internet during install
[21:07] <tyrog> Micha|iPhone: because libreoffice needs language packs too :)
[21:07] <Micha|iPhone> "remaining" == for every other langiage besides English?
[21:07] <luisjaime_> Good day for all:  somebody know, how patching lyx?
[21:07] <tyrog> Micha|iPhone: no, it only downloads packages for the language YOU selected
[21:08] <Micha|iPhone> Er, English langpacks aren't in the iso?
[21:08] <tyrog> Micha|iPhone: I think not everything is in the ISO. But why are you so upset about this?
[21:08] <elisa87> what should I do? touch: missing file operand
[21:09] <bekks> elisa87: When doing what?
[21:09] <Micha|iPhone> What are the implications of clicking Skip at that step?
[21:09] <frozenlock> I have a java program running at startup. If I run it by hand, there's no problem. However, when running at startup, it seems it can't fetch data from the net (via https). I've made sure to run it using Network Manager (so that the interface is available), but it still fails. Is there fundamentally different from running a program with the script or by hand?
[21:09] <elisa87> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5695079/
[21:09] <lmat> elisa87: Specify a file that exists? :)
[21:09] <tyrog> Micha|iPhone: The language packs don't get downloaded and installed. You can do that after the installation completes at any time though
[21:10] <bekks> elisa87: Change the last line to "touch ${USER_NAME}_file" without the ""
[21:10] <mtgsjr> Hi! Anybody Brazilian Here? PVT-ME
[21:11] <lmat> elisa87: When you run your script, does line 5 show what you expect?
[21:11] <lmat> elisa87: Try    touch "$USER_NAME"_file   or something cool like that.
[21:11] <lmat> elisa87: Bash is looking for a variable called "USER_NAME_file".
[21:11] <lmat> elisa87: But you read into $USER_NAME.
[21:12] <seronis> when i use  'gksudo gedit /path/to/file.txt'  why does an 'untitled document' get created along with opening the file i really wanted to edit ?
[21:12] <seronis> and can i prevent this pointless behavior ?
[21:12] <bekks> lmat: "Change the last line to "touch ${USER_NAME}_file" without the """ :)
[21:12] <lmat> bekks: What is ${} ?
[21:12] <elisa87> lmat thanks so much I changed last line to "touch "$USER_NAME"_file" and it's working
[21:13] <elisa87> so touch basically creates a file? lmat
[21:13] <seronis> man touch
[21:13] <seronis> it will update the timestamps on a file that exists.. or create a file if none exists
[21:13] <lmat> elisa87: man touch :)
[21:13] <bekks> lmat: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/parameter-substitution.html
[21:13] <lmat> seronis: by switching to vim ^_^
[21:13]  * seronis bonks lmat
[21:13] <seronis> i'll use nano first, thank you very much =-)
[21:14] <lmat> bekks: Thanks thanks!
[21:14] <wentknweqt> hey guys, i am on 12.04 with dm-crypt and i am dual booting with win2012 with truecrypt and i want to upgrade to 13.04.. is there a way for me to do a full update on a single restart and be able to back up the partition boot record and have GRUB not write itself to the MBR? i need to preserve my boot record and have the partition boot record in a file
[21:14] <lmat> seronis: For what it's worth, I can't reproduce. I tried "gedit thisfile" and gedit only opened one file (which I specified). I exited without saving and no new files are found.
[21:15] <lmat> seronis: Do you think it's particular to sudo or gksudo?
[21:15] <aseguro> Hey guys, a newby here
[21:15] <seronis> lmat:   sources.list   so required in this case
[21:16] <sammy> lmat: so, I think xdiagnose set GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=None while I was playing with it the other day, and when I unchecked the box, it didn't remove it from /etc/default/grub. commenting out the line and rebooting gave me my ridiculously small console font back!
[21:16] <lmat> seronis: Hey! There's an untitled document and it has a spinning thing, too!
[21:16] <Odd> Good evening.
[21:16] <sammy> (and possibly the bootsplash, I was afk)
[21:16] <aseguro> trying to create a local repo from an ubuntu iso, not http, is there any option in apt-mitrror I'm missing?
[21:16] <seronis> yup =-)
[21:16] <lmat> sammy: Ahh...that payload_linux thing needs to be "KEEP" :)
[21:16] <sammy> lmat: is that default? commenting it out seems to have done the trick
[21:16] <lmat> sammy: Oh yeah, you can fix my problem now... I think I have an AMD Firefox m4000, how do I verify?
[21:17] <lmat> sammy: Again, some Ubuntu magic going on here.
[21:17] <sammy> lmat: haha, I see. no problem, Ill check to see if xdiagnose needs a bug filed later. as far as how to verify, Id check wikipedia
[21:17] <lmat> sammy: In arch, I had to specify "KEEP" (and the proper screen resolution or VGA mode), but in Ubuntu, don't touch.
[21:17] <sammy> lmat: they have a pretty extensive database of chipsets and video cards
[21:18] <lmat> sammy: (is that in answer to my question?)
[21:18] <sammy> you could even use google: `site:wikipedia.org [chipset]` or `site:wikipedia.org "Firefox m4000"`
[21:18] <lmat> sammy: How do I decide what video card I have :( You said lookup the chipset. I have been and I have three options: AMD Firepro (1 GB), NVidia Quadro k1000m (2gb) and NVidia quadro K2000M (2 GB).
[21:19] <bekks> lmat: Pastebin "lspci" please.
[21:19] <lmat> sammy: I'm pretty sure I have the 1GB model (because my company bought it)
[21:19] <lmat> bekks: OKAY! :)
[21:19] <lmat> bekks: you want -v ?
[21:19] <bekks> lmat: No.
[21:19] <seronis> lmat: if you use sudo instead of gksudo it uses the logged in users profile so you get a warning complaining about it.  but you dont get a random untitled doc.  if you use gksudo it uses the root profile so no complaints, but random file
[21:19] <ceed^> After some updates today the fan on my laptop isn't running at all. What could be wrong?
[21:19] <lmat> seronis: I see.
[21:20] <lmat> (thank goodness for tmux)
[21:20] <lmat> http://pastie.org/7950092
[21:20] <lmat> bekks: ^
[21:20] <seronis> im just trying to understand 'why'.  Then again I dont understand the potential 'Bad Things(tm)' that can happen if only sudo is used
[21:21] <lmat> sammy: When I use sudo, I get no warning.
[21:21] <lmat> sammy: Moreover, when I use sudo vim, I get no warning, and no window pop-ups...
[21:21] <lmat> sammy: sorry... wrong guy
[21:21] <lmat> seronis: ^
[21:21] <seronis> =-)
[21:22] <bekks> lmat: Its a AMD FirePro M4000
[21:22] <lmat> bekks: You are an oracle! I now know
[21:23] <lmat> bekks: Can you share your oracleness?
[21:23] <bekks> lmat: I just looked that the device id "682d" and put it into the search field when visiting http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids
[21:24] <lmat> bekks: ahh, I see. Thanks :D
[21:24] <sammy> bekks: that's a magic website, danke! *bookmarks
[21:24] <lmat> bekks: So that means I'm SOL for a good graphics driver?
[21:24] <dk0r> Any ideas why ssh immediately logs me off?? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5639504
[21:24]  * lmat links, too
[21:24] <auronandace> lmat: no need for that acronym
[21:25] <lmat> auronandace: You have the driver!?
[21:25] <sammy> lmat: welcome to linux ;) I'm having to use an unsupported, legacy AMD driver for a lappy less than 2 years old.
[21:25] <lmat> sammy: Seems that I should be on a team of folks trying to create a better driveR/
[21:25] <sammy> then again 3d support in the FOSS driver is pretty good, actually. I'm impressed. way better than a few years ago
[21:26] <lmat> sammy: I don't get any 3d support as far As I know.
[21:26] <sammy> lmat: good luck! though if you get into driver coding, you can make mad cash in the embedded world these days (custom builds for phones, tablets etc)
[21:26] <tyrog> sammy: The FOSS driver is a very good alternative today, for the cards that were dropped by AMD
[21:26] <sammy> tyrog: its true! I went with the fglrx-legacy ppa version at first, but the FOSS driver is really impressive in TF2
[21:26] <lmat> /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p  shows that I am using Software rendering :(
[21:27] <tyrog> sammy: By the way, which one was better? opensource or fglrx legacy from the PPA?
[21:28] <sammy> tyrog: I think they were better for different things, honestly. I haven't actually tried the legacy ppa driver with anything GL (like TF2)
[21:28] <lmat> sammy: /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p  shows that I am using Software rendering :(
[21:28] <lmat> sammy: I know! I need to install the driver using Wine!!
[21:28] <sammy> tyrog: though it seemed okay in a composited desktop, no lag or artifacts etc
[21:28] <tyrog> lmat: what?
[21:29] <sammy> in fact now I'm curous to see the difference. if you're still around in ... however long it takes me to switch back to fglrx-legacy and fire up TF2, Ill let you know :D
[21:29] <lmat> tyrog: Do you know what wine is?
[21:29] <tyrog> lmat: I tell you, no you don't need to do that at all
[21:29] <lmat> wait a minute... http://bit.ly/13N8RUC fourth result says that Ubuntu 12.04 is supported!
[21:30] <sammy> Im supposed to be building paranoidandroid (with a custom kernel that adds tv tuner support) for my nexus 7 so I can play around with video4linux on an android device. ...and dishes. really I'm supposed to be doing dishes. bbiab
[21:31] <IraDivina> hi
[21:32] <iorweth> Hi
[21:32] <IraDivina> sup?
[21:32] <lmat> sammy: whoa, there it is  http://support.amb.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[21:32] <lmat> yay! Virus!!
[21:32] <IraDivina> someone know how to fix widgets with qt designer?
[21:32] <lmat> IraDivina: You can only fix it if it's broken.
[21:33] <IraDivina> no wait
[21:33] <lmat> IraDivina: waiting.
[21:33] <lmat> IraDivina: just for you.
[21:33] <IraDivina> i mean when i add a button, for example and i wan to resize the window i want that button follow my resize
[21:34] <dk0r> Any ideas why ssh immediately logs me off?? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5639556
[21:35] <micha|webirc> I'm having trouble installing Wine. 12.04.2, fresh install. After `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa` and `sudo apt-get update`, `sudo apt-get install wine1.4` does this: http://pastebin.com/HRnyf28s
[21:35] <lmat> dk0r: This is probably a server-side configuration
[21:35] <dk0r> lmat: I cannot access the server except through ssh.
[21:35] <lmat> dk0r: Make sure you have a remote shell assigned, etc.
[21:35] <IraDivina> lmat, do you know how to do it?
[21:35] <lmat> dk0r: eek Has it ever worked?
[21:35] <lmat> IraDivina: um...yes.
[21:35] <lmat> IraDivina: You need to use a layout.
[21:35] <dk0r> lmat: yes, an hour ago
[21:36] <lmat> IraDivina: I mean... you could override the layout logic, but the "right" way to do it would be to add a GridViewLayout
[21:36] <lmat> IraDivina: Wait, this is the wrong channel for that type of inquiry!
[21:36] <lmat> IraDivina: this->setLayout I think...
[21:36] <IraDivina> lmat, thanks, I will try
[21:36] <IraDivina> if it work i think i will fall in love with you
[21:37] <lmat> sammy: the script that amd gave me to install the driver is 405,258 lines long :-|
[21:38] <IraDivina> lmat, omg it works!!
[21:38] <lmat> oh wait, there's a bunch of binary stuff at line 441
[21:38] <lmat> IraDivina: wow, you're fast.
[21:39] <lmat> IraDivina: I've never actually done it, only read ^_^
[21:39] <IraDivina> lol
[21:39] <lmat> IraDivina: I've tried to make a gui but I keep getting segfault...glad it worked for you!
[21:39] <lmat> IraDivina: Did you use a designer?
[21:39] <IraDivina> nice one, man/girl
[21:39] <IraDivina> lmat, i use qt designer
[21:40] <lmat> IraDivina: but do you use the code editor (did you type "new QGridLayout(parent)") or the GUI designer?
[21:40] <minetape> hello, my mom was on the computer running norton on winblows yesterday, and it seems that the option to boot ubuntu from grub is gone. can m data still be recovered?
[21:40] <minetape> my*
[21:41] <IraDivina> lmat, no, simply with the right button on the mouse, i click it on the vertical layout and set it
[21:41] <lmat> minetape: of course :)
[21:41] <minetape> how?
[21:41] <lmat> IraDivina: Ah, that's why you're so fast :)
[21:41] <lmat> minetape: um...lots of ways :)
[21:41] <lmat> minetape: I assume you had a partition for Linux?
[21:41] <minetape> describe one please
[21:41] <lmat> minetape: Copy all contents of that partition to a new drive... or something..
[21:41] <IraDivina> i love fast things
[21:42] <minetape> umm, im not sure
[21:42] <minetape> i just used wubi
[21:42] <lmat> minetape: yeah, I'm sure you had a partition.
[21:42] <minetape> yeah how would i view that partition?
[21:42] <lmat> minetape: I'm glad you're enthusiastic about Linux, and I detect that you're young. An excellent time to learn about partitions and the magic of OSes :)
[21:42] <lmat> minetape: When you get around to it, be sure to install arch linux?
[21:42] <minetape> i <3 linux
[21:42] <minetape> my mom doesnt want me doing that stuff
[21:43] <minetape> i just want to revocer the ability to get back into ubuntu
[21:43] <minetape> i lost my liveboot flash drives
[21:43] <lmat> minetape: You need to get your own computer.
[21:43] <lmat> minetape: I guess a flash drive would work...
[21:44] <k1l> minetape: just boot up a live cd or a live-usb, it should find the data
[21:44] <minetape> yeah, i could try to make one
[21:44] <lmat> minetape: You probably won't recover the ability to get back into ubuntu...but you can get your data, reinstall ubuntu, then make sure the data are there.
[21:44] <k1l> lmat: that is not really helping him now :/
[21:44] <minetape> she doesnt <3 linux
[21:44] <lmat> minetape: But if your mom doesn't want you to look at partitions, she certainly won't want you installing ubuntu!
[21:44] <lmat> minetape: oh, k1l is perfectly correct!
[21:44] <lmat> minetape: use k1l 's suggestion!
[21:45] <lmat> okay, gotta go.
[21:45] <minetape> thanks, i will use YUMI, since i have a couple of isos on hand
[21:45] <minetape> thanks for the help, cya
[21:45] <lmat> k1l: excellent suggestion. I so often miss the obvious :(
[21:45] <lmat> ttyl!
[21:45] <lmat> IraDivina: Good luck. YOu'll have to make it without me for now, love.
[21:47] <dk0r> Any ideas why ssh immediately logs me off?? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5639556
[21:52] <Odd> I'm running rTorrent on a headless Ubuntu Server with NICs, I've established a PPtP-tunnel on eth0, and would like rTorrents traffic to be routed through that tunnel (PPP0 does get a dynamic IP, so I have no way of routing rTorrent to a specific IP). I would like to know, is that at all possible. And if so, how do I verify that rTorrent's traffic is routed through PPP0?
[21:53] <Odd> Any answers, speculations or whatever - is of course appreciated :)
[21:53] <WeThePeople> dk0r, what does -vv do?
[21:54] <dk0r> WeThePeople: thanks. I was using admin to login when I should have been using root.
[21:54] <IraDivina> dk0r, u are not on wordpress :P
[21:55] <elisa87> what does not stripped mean here? a.out: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.16, not stripped
[21:55] <dk0r> IraDivina: no. It's a nas.
[21:55] <IraDivina> dk0r, that's why is root instead of admin
[21:55] <dk0r> IraDivina: yeah. I don't use wordpress, but I get it.
[21:55] <xwalk> I hope one of these days I get past the point of having to spend 3 hours trying to build something from source.
[21:55] <dk0r> ty
[21:55] <dk0r> xwalk: hehe
[21:56] <IraDivina> xwalk, never.
[21:57] <xwalk> Of course that would completely render the illusion to others that you're hard at work transparent.
[21:57] <k1l> elisa87: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/2969/what-are-stripped-and-not-stripped-executables-in-unix
[21:58] <elisa87> K1l thanks :)
[21:58] <robotti> eggselend
[21:58] <SteveBell> ok I'm still trying to re-install ubuntu on a netbook. so now I did the following: created a bootable USB stick following http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu which seemed to work. but when trying to boot from that usb drive I get "Non-system disk, Press any key to reboot"
[21:59] <k1l> SteveBell: make sure you boot the usb stick (options in bios or a boot-medium-menu with some key like F10 or such)
[22:00] <SteveBell> k1l:  yes I did that. hit F12 but the USB to the very top of the boot options. restart. same msg
[22:00] <SteveBell> but = put
[22:00] <Ahmedo> hello , is there a good source on plymounth ? , i want to learn how to make my own animated loader.
[22:00] <k1l> SteveBell: is that a stick or a hdd?
[22:00] <WeThePeople> my headphones wont work when i reboot to ubuntu, any ideas
[22:01] <SteveBell> usb stick
[22:01] <SteveBell> formatted with FAT
[22:01] <WeThePeople> but they work from shutdown
[22:02] <josetacos> using the mini installer everything worked execpt it could not install grub got this error "unable to install grub in /dev/sda"
[22:02] <tummy> Running ubuntu 13 and started getting an error: Illegal division by zero at /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2/WWW/ProxyChecker.pm line 73.  Tried searching to see if this is a known issue in the latest Ubuntu distro, anyone else come across this?
[22:03] <Ahmedo> any idea guys on plymouth ?
[22:03] <Ahmedo> !topic plymouth
[22:03] <k1l> !plymouth | Ahmedo
[22:04] <k1l> SteveBell: iirc, there should be 2 partitions on that stick. not only one fat one. :/
[22:04] <Ahmedo> !plymouth-theme-script
[22:05] <josetacos> how do i install only grub using the mini installer
[22:05] <Ahmedo> !topic plymouth-theme-script
[22:05] <SteveBell> k1l:  this is what that stick looks like http://cl.ly/image/3l3R1k2T460W
[22:07] <Ahmedo> !plymouth | ahmedo
[22:07] <k1l> SteveBell: i was wrong, just checked with my live ubuntu stick
[22:07] <NvrBst> Greetings, question if I may. When I do "sudo echo hi > t.txt" I'm seeing t.txt get greated with "user:user". If I do "sudo -s" "echo hi > t1.txt" I see "t1.txt" with "root:root". Why would "sudo" not be setting user,group to root:root too?
[22:07] <k1l> SteveBell: your stick looks good so far from that point
[22:08] <Ahmedo> !plymouth-theme-script | ahmedo
[22:08] <SteveBell> yes I also seem to understand how to adjust that boot order on the target machine
[22:08] <jrib> NvrBst: the redirection is done by your shell (which is being run by your user)
[22:08] <k1l> Ahmedo: the bot is not a google frontend. did you try to google for "plymouth theme script" already?
[22:09] <Ahmedo> yep i did, there is no clear answear
[22:09] <k1l> SteveBell: is the stick a 64bit and the netbook is 32bit only?
[22:10] <SteveBell> k1l:  I think you nailed it. the stick was created in 64bit ubuntu and target machine is 32bit
[22:10] <Ahmedo> am beginning to like ubuntu
[22:10] <SteveBell> but how'd I workaround taht?
[22:10] <k1l> SteveBell: i got that message when my usb-hdd wasnt in spin up fast enough at booting. or you did boot the wrong usb slot :/
[22:10] <k1l> SteveBell: get a 32bit iso and put it on the usb stick
[22:10] <SteveBell> I did that
[22:10] <SteveBell> I used the correct iso
[22:11] <k1l> hmm.
[22:11] <SteveBell> but did the creation process on a 64bit machine
[22:11] <k1l> that doesnt matter
[22:11] <SteveBell> so that shouldn#t be a problem?
[22:11] <k1l> if you use the ritgh iso
[22:11] <SteveBell> ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso
[22:11] <k1l> you could try to dd that iso to that stick. or try unetbootin
[22:11] <Conflict_> I have a question regarding encryption.  I used LVM full disk encryption during installation.  Then during the end of the install I also checked off "Encrypt /home".  My question is: do i now have unnessicary "double encryption"?  Do I not have to encrypt /home if I'm using LVM with encryption?
[22:12] <SteveBell> uh boy… I've been trying unetbooting on OS X and that had the same problem.
[22:12] <SteveBell> the only time the usb creation worked was with the recommended tool in win7. problem is win 7 is gone with a non-working ubuntu install now
[22:12] <SteveBell> :S
[22:12] <vitimiti> nighty night
[22:12] <SteveBell> somewhat absurd situation...
[22:13] <SteveBell> but not sure how to address this situation now
[22:13] <k1l> hmm
[22:13] <SteveBell> is there some flags that need to be set to make the usb stick a system boot medium?
[22:13] <k1l> not that i am aware of
[22:14] <k1l> i didnt have problems with the usb sticks so far
[22:14] <betrayd> on a mac though?
[22:16] <volitek> ubuntu keeps randomly freezing after like an hour, but I can move my mouse. I can't make anything else happen on screen. Switching to a TTY with ctrl alt f1 doesnt even do anything! any idea what could be wrong or how to fix it?
[22:18] <SteveBell> betrayd I'm on a mac. but since the bootable USB creation seemed easier I setup up a VM with 64bit ubuntu and created the usb stick tehre
[22:19] <SteveBell> target machine being 32 bit though
[22:20] <betrayd> volitek dreate a new user, and log in as this new user only. Run only a few apps and hold off on the others; see if the freeze still happens.
[22:20] <betrayd> volitek create*^
[22:21] <chvx> is encrypted-lvm useful?
[22:21] <[FreeBSD]> volitek: do you have a browser open?
[22:21] <volitek> Uh... it happens after an hour, how will i know it's gone?
[22:21] <volitek> [FreeBSD]: Yes, firefox
[22:22] <[FreeBSD]> volitek: i mean when the freeze happens
[22:22] <[FreeBSD]> but d/w
[22:22] <volitek> Yeah, it was open
[22:22] <volitek> has been each time
[22:22] <[FreeBSD]> chrome has a known issue with freezing (something gpu accel related)
[22:22] <volitek> hm
[22:22] <[FreeBSD]> try disabling firefox's gpu accel in the options
[22:22] <[FreeBSD]> see if it still happens
[22:22] <betrayd> SteveBell is there a way to run it  as a liveCD/USB without VM?
[22:22] <SteveBell> run what?
[22:22] <volitek> I'll give it a go, thanks
[22:23] <SteveBell> the usb stick?
[22:23] <k1l> SteveBell: well, just use dd to put the iso onto the usb-stick
[22:23] <SteveBell> k1l:  use dd?
[22:23] <k1l> !dd | SteveBell
[22:24] <SteveBell> !dd
[22:24] <SteveBell> bot says it knows nothing about dd
[22:24] <matbee> Anyone here know how to force a socket.io connection closed? socket.disconnect doesn't actually end it.
[22:24] <matbee> client or server..
[22:25] <k1l> SteveBell: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-iso-to-usb-device
[22:25] <k1l> (i need to find a non german tutorial for you :) )
[22:25] <betrayd> or he needs to learn german stat
[22:26] <SteveBell> I speak german
[22:26] <SteveBell> actually I live there...
[22:26] <SteveBell> problem is unetbootin hasn't been working for me
[22:26] <betrayd> lol he already moved!
[22:26] <k1l> betrayd: ;p
[22:26] <syntroPi> i would need a hint: i purchased a USB DVB-T dongle (pctv quatro nano 520e) which comes with an IR remote: i just tried it and it seems i can control the volume with it (cinnamon possibly gnome and unity too): Which interface is used here? I mean which software is responsible for that functionality?
[22:26] <k1l> dd is a simple copy bit by bit tool.
[22:27] <prime_> @search you are not so smart
[22:27] <syntroPi> Just asking because maybe i can use that to control VLC with it or is LIRC the better option for that?
[22:28] <k1l> SteveBell: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/CD-Images  this is the german wiki. it mentions the dd part (and links to further explanations
[22:30] <syntroPi> it seems to send messages to dbus like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5695277/
[22:32] <daftykins> syntroPi: LIRC is a bit of an abortion but it tends to work ok
[22:34] <syntroPi> just asking myself where that already working functionality is implemented: liblircclient is installed
[22:34] <urmom> what is linux?? i heard linux is illegal
[22:34]  * urmom farted
[22:35] <chvx> any good idea to use encryption?
[22:35] <daftykins> not just for the sake of it, no
[22:35] <urmom> is linux illegal???
[22:36] <daftykins> you'll know if it's worth it
[22:36] <daftykins> urmom: yeah but all the cool kids are doing it, so...
[22:36] <urmom> where can i get a pirated copy of ubuntu i have no money and cant buy it
[22:36] <[FreeBSD]> so lame
[22:37] <th0r> how original...a troll
[22:37] <daftykins> inorite
[22:37] <sammy> yay for irc and /ignore
[22:37] <daftykins> well we could summon ops to sort it
[22:38] <daftykins> oh he left
[22:38] <k1l> well, he is already gone. so lets move on :)
[22:38] <daftykins> awww shucks k1l
[22:39] <http80> ubuntu users: i have a 2nd hard drive that was installed on a ubuntu box. the ubuntu box cannot see it. how can i be able to see it and recover some files from this HD?
[22:40] <[FreeBSD]> http80: does it show in fdisk -l?
[22:40] <|s-a|> [FreeBSD] , nice name :D
[22:40] <[FreeBSD]> or are you trying to find it in the file manager
[22:41] <http80> freebsd: it does show when entering that command
[22:41] <[FreeBSD]> http80: its probably not formatted, or on an unrecognised file system type
[22:41] <http80> all i am trying to do is recover some files from that hard drive
[22:41] <[FreeBSD]> do you know what fs it is
[22:41] <http80> well, it has fedora installed on it
[22:41] <http80> fedora as a back on my fedora box
[22:41] <|s-a|> http80 , photorec ?
[22:42] <[FreeBSD]> ah ok, it should be seen then... what does it say when you manually mount it>
[22:42] <Guest56691> am i in the appropriate place to ask for help with an ubuntu problem?
[22:42] <|s-a|> Guest56691, welcome
[22:42] <[FreeBSD]> Guest56691: you would have thought so
[22:42] <k1l> http80: first you should make a dd image of that hdd and test the stuff with that image
[22:42] <syntroPi> is there a way to find out dbus messages origin/senders pid?
[22:42] <k1l> http80: myabe try ddrescue
[22:42] <|s-a|> Guest56691 , /nick amguest :p
[22:43] <http80> Kll: hold on, BRB
[22:43] <Guest56691> sorry, still a bit confused - is this a command to change my name?
[22:43] <[FreeBSD]>  /nick nick
[22:43] <k1l> yes
[22:43] <|s-a|> Guest56691 yep
[22:44] <Guest56691> :)
[22:44] <|s-a|> !basicirc
[22:44] <patelx> lol
[22:44] <|s-a|> !irc
[22:44] <|s-a|> !noob
[22:44] <|s-a|> arrr !
[22:44] <pastar> better?
[22:44] <patelx> pastar: making moves
[22:45] <|s-a|> we can recognize you now
[22:45] <pastar> good!
[22:46] <pastar> is there an etiquette to inquiry?
[22:47] <|s-a|> */msg or */query
[22:52] <Guest33066> ciao a tutti
[22:52] <|s-a|> bye
[22:52] <fearphage> I'm running ubuntu raring (13.04), the latest version of Chromium in the repos is 25. The same is true for 12.04. Anyone know anything about that? This says we should be on 26 or 27 http://www.chromium.org/developers/calendar
[22:52] <syntroPi> gr8: my em28xx driver seems to create keyboard input events for my ir remote volume buttons :p
[22:53] <phillyj> can someone help me figure out how to automount my new HDD using fstab?
[22:53] <|s-a|> feaephage , you can download the newest version and install it , it is quite simple
[22:53] <phillyj> what options should I choose or should I leave it default?
[22:54] <dominic_> hello
[22:54] <dominic_> can someone help me with the termina;
[22:54] <phillyj> dominic_: what's wrong with the terminal
[22:54] <[FreeBSD]> fearphage: you wont get the latest packages on ubuntu without an external repo
[22:54] <Guest33066> !list
[22:54] <dominic_> i cant open some files
[22:55] <Guest33066> #
[22:55] <[FreeBSD]> dominic_: open how
[22:55] <fearphage> What changed? I was getting the latest stables since 11
[22:55] <dominic_> with cd
[22:55] <[FreeBSD]> dominic_: that will change the dir
[22:55] <Vai> oh god
[22:55] <Vai> i like this network
[22:55] <Guest33066> Someone can tell me how to see the channel list??
[22:55] <Vai> better then undernet
[22:55] <dominic_> change how
[22:55] <Vai> Guest10813, /list
[22:56] <Guest33066> thanls
[22:56] <Guest33066> thanks
[22:56] <Vai> np
[22:56] <Vai> :)
[22:56] <[FreeBSD]> dominic_: if you "cd" it will take you to your home directory
[22:56] <[FreeBSD]> if you cd /tmp it will take you to /tmp
[22:56] <[FreeBSD]> that command wont open files
[22:56] <dominic_> i do , cd downloads it doesnt work
[22:56] <TpOJ> #dominic cd means change directory e.g. go into whatever directory you specify
[22:56] <Guest33066> sakso
[22:56] <[FreeBSD]> dominic_: its case sensitive
[22:56] <[FreeBSD]> try cd Downloads
[22:57] <[FreeBSD]> or even better, use tab completion
[22:57] <dominic_> it doesnt work
[22:57] <[FreeBSD]> type cd then tab twice
[22:57] <[FreeBSD]> see what comes up
[22:57] <TpOJ> @dominic use vi to open files
[22:57] <dominic_> it works with the dir i created
[22:57] <[FreeBSD]> ls -a the dir
[22:57] <[FreeBSD]> its a typo from you
[22:57] <[FreeBSD]> or the dir dont exist
[22:58] <phillyj> dominic_: you want to open files or folders?
[22:58] <dominic_> folders
[22:58] <[FreeBSD]> dominic_: whats the exact command you're typing?
[22:58] <[FreeBSD]> paste out put of pwd and ls -a
[22:58] <phillyj> then cd tab tab until you get where you need to go
[22:59] <samgabbay> Hello users Samuel G From the QATeam Here
[22:59] <dominic_> cd downloads
[22:59] <seronis> dominic_:  linux is case sensitive   downloads is not Downloads
[22:59] <madprops> type ls to see the directories available
[22:59] <[FreeBSD]> he should know that now :)
[23:00] <dominic_> adwaita-cupertino  Documents  examples.desktop  Pictures  Templates   unixstuff
[23:00] <dominic_> Desktop            Downloads  Music             Public    Ubuntu One  Videos
[23:00] <madprops> then do cd Dow [tab]
[23:00] <[FreeBSD]> dominic_: yeah, its because you're not capitalizing the D in Downloads
[23:00] <seronis> dominic_:   linux is case sensitive.. type  'cd Downloads'   not  'cd downloads'
[23:00] <dominic_> hold on
[23:01] <dominic_> it works i knew it will be stupid like that
[23:01] <[FreeBSD]> *achievement unlocked*
[23:01] <needubuntuhelp> Hi, I am trying to create a Ubuntu .desktop file for a program I have
[23:01] <needubuntuhelp> To run the program I need to run "mono filename.exe"
[23:01] <dominic_> thanks guys
[23:01] <seronis> dominic_:  'simple' like that =-)  stupid is the people who argue and dont listen to advice
[23:02] <needubuntuhelp> so I've created a .desktop file and included a .sh file that calls the program in the exec listing
[23:02] <needubuntuhelp> but for some reason it isn't working
[23:02] <phillyj> dominic_: you might want to check out http://www.tuxfiles.org
[23:02] <needubuntuhelp> Do I need to give the desktop file permissions or something?
[23:02] <bekks> needubuntuhelp: Try using full paths.
[23:02] <[FreeBSD]> needubuntuhelp: try giving it executable permissions
[23:02] <samgabbay> rofl
[23:03] <|s-a|> needubuntuhelp  , you need linux help not ubuntu :p
[23:03] <dominic_> it was simple
[23:03] <dominic_> thanks phillyj
[23:03] <needubuntuhelp> [FreeBSD], how
[23:03] <[FreeBSD]> chmod +x
[23:04] <syntroPi> try invoking it with sh like "sh -c 'mono yourapp.exe'" and sh provides an std environment (with PATH and such) for mono
[23:06] <syntroPi> needubuntuhelp, actually more like "/bin/sh -c 'mono yourapp.exe'"
[23:08] <needubuntuhelp> thanks
[23:11] <Stars> for some reasons after rebooted iam at cmd prompt login screen, startx does not boot into GUI?
[23:11] <maslen> Is it possible to remove the link local interface?
[23:11] <|s-a|> Stars , pastebin /var/log/X.0.log contents
[23:11] <k1l> Stars: dont use starx. start lightdm on ubuntu
[23:12] <Stars> |s-a|, thanks
[23:12] <|s-a|> welcome , i think you should thank k1l
[23:12] <Stars> k1l, how do i do that?
[23:13] <Stars> is that a cmd? start lightdm
[23:13] <k1l> sudo start lightdm
[23:13] <syntroPi> sudo service lightdm start
[23:13] <Stars> k1l, thanks
[23:13] <k1l> startx doesnt work for ubuntu desktop sessions. that brings alot of problems with root rights etc
[23:14] <maslen> How can I remove the loopback adapter?
[23:14] <[FreeBSD]> maslen: in the kernel
[23:14] <maslen> It's not able to be removed through a config file?
[23:14] <maslen> (I want to test a program in that strange situation)
[23:15] <|s-a|> k1l , even with a good .xinitrc ?
[23:15] <th0r> maslen: not sure, but I think that would render the system unusable
[23:15] <k1l> |s-a|: in most cases.
[23:15] <|s-a|> i see
[23:15] <syntroPi> maslen, not sure if that helps but maybe you want to take a look at LXC
[23:15] <k1l> if you know what you do there are safe ways. but then you wouldnt be asking :)
[23:16] <maslen> th0r: The system shouldn't require ipv4 networking support. That doesn't make sense.
[23:16] <k1l> (not ment to be rude) for most users its safer and the "ubuntu way" to start the dm, like lightdm
[23:17] <|s-a|> k1l , i agree although am not a ubuntu guy :p
[23:17] <th0r> maslen: just working off very dusty old experience. I recall once I knockered loop inadvertently and had a terrible time getting things back up and running. But it was ages ago...hence "not sure..."
[23:17] <bekks> maslen: Removing the loopback interface arises a lot of problems. Most applications, services, host functionalities rely on IPv4 and at least a loopback interface. Having one, is no security issue, is no security leak, is no harm whatsoever.
[23:18] <SteveBell> k1l: and all thanks a lot for your help. especially echoe!!! I got things working now.
[23:18] <bekks> maslen: To shorten it up: "Dont remove the loopback".
[23:18] <|s-a|> maslen , /sbin/ifconfig lo down   , if you face problems turn it up
[23:18] <betrayd> SteveBell which one was the best approach btw
[23:19] <maslen> |s-a|: Hah, that worked. Thanks.
[23:19] <|s-a|> maslen , maybe you will hate me soon :D
[23:19] <maslen> bekks: I'm doing it in a VM. I want to see if it breaks an application. Obviously, I would not do something like that on production
[23:19] <maslen> |s-a|: Nah, the app didn't crash - no harm done
[23:20] <syntroPi> maslen, maybe look at its dialogue with the system via strace
[23:21] <tzp> switching users on 12.04 makes the screen go black
[23:21] <tzp> then i have to restart
[23:21] <tzp> im updated
[23:21] <tzp> odd
[23:21] <|s-a|> tzp , use one line
[23:22] <SteveBell> betrayd: the problem was that imo http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx isn't perfectly clear what exactly is to be done in a specific step. step 2 e.g. is clear. but step 3 intends the user to know that the dmg needs to be renamed to img. there is a note but that is not clear what action is required by the user to be done. there's more in that direction. so in that long process I kept making small errors.
[23:22] <SteveBell> not sure why ubuntus own tool (that I used in a vm ubuntu I setup) didn't work. it's now working, though with the help of echoe
[23:23] <dr_willis> some usb tools can be weird with some combos of flash and computer hardware ive found over the years
[23:23] <|s-a|> tzp , here is an approach , know what login manager do 12.04 use , than google to see if the problem is common , if not try to find the logs of  it :p
[23:25] <syntroPi> tzp had that with lightdm on "toram" live system session: gdm though seemed not to have that problem i had ...
[23:25] <http80> k1l: i am back
[23:25] <tzp> Sorry I forgot enter isn't a punctuation. The ADD doesn't help either @_@. When logging or switching users in 12.04 the 2nd account I made, the name is blank. Is this normal?
[23:25] <http80> freebsd: i am back
[23:25] <Synthbread> Does ubuntu read from ~/.xinitrc?
[23:26] <[FreeBSD]> http80: ok
[23:26] <dr_willis> tzp:  you mean the names in the top right menu thing?  ive noticed that having blank entries even without switching
[23:26] <phillyj> can someone help me get this new HDD writable?
[23:26] <|s-a|> Synthbread  , X do
[23:26] <tzp> syntroPi ahh thanks man. Hopefully it goes away. I'll just have to see what tends to cause it. So strange, that and the missing name, I even rebooted.
[23:26] <dr_willis> Synthbread:  depends on how you login.
[23:26] <[FreeBSD]> Synthbread: as in what, using startx?
[23:26] <tzp> dr_willis yes, exactly that sir.
[23:27] <dr_willis> tzp:  could be some of the extra peofile info for the users are not filled in. i never looked into it much. askubuntu.com may know more
[23:27] <Synthbread> |s-a|, dr_willis, [FreeBSD]: I have a couple commands to remap the keyboard with xmodmap and put it into ~/.xinitrc and marked it as executable.  If I run it from a terminal, it works, but the script doesn't seem to run on login because the keyboard isn't remapped
[23:28] <[FreeBSD]> Synthbread: theres surely some autostart folder in unirt
[23:28] <[FreeBSD]> unity
[23:28] <[FreeBSD]> why does it need to be run from xinitrc
[23:28] <Synthbread> [FreeBSD]: isn't .xinitrc an X standard?
[23:29] <betrayd> iit might be more effective if theeres a restart desktop
[23:29] <Synthbread> [FreeBSD]: to run commands when X starts
[23:29] <dr_willis> Synthbread:  if you login via lightdm.. it will not read .xinitrc
[23:29] <|s-a|> Synthbread , you can use vconsole.conf
[23:29] <syntroPi> in /etc/xdg/autostart are desktop links which are invoked after login
[23:29] <[FreeBSD]> you can use it, but autostart is a better way
[23:29] <[FreeBSD]> because you dont need a seperate file if you dont use it
[23:29] <Synthbread> syntroPi: I want this to be for a user and not system wide
[23:29] <tzp> dr_willis you're right! any way you know of to get back to input name for that account once set up?
[23:29] <volitek> [FreeBSD]: it happened again, froze with firefox open but I had hardware acceleration disabled :(
[23:29] <[FreeBSD]> volitek: oh, no idea then
[23:30] <Synthbread> |s-a|: can this be set per-user?
[23:30] <volitek> okay, thanks anyway
[23:30] <|s-a|> Synthbread , not sure
[23:30] <[FreeBSD]> volitek: leave a tail -F /var/log/{messages,kern.log} or whatever open
[23:30] <[FreeBSD]> volitek: to see if it catches anything
[23:31] <[FreeBSD]> volitek: do you have much ram? doing anything specific when it happens?
[23:31] <|s-a|> Synthbread , you can use startup programs and add: setxkbmap -layout
[23:31] <volitek> Ive got 16 gigs, I just opened the file explorer when it happened
[23:31] <syntroPi> Synthbread, maybe try "~/.config/autostart/"
[23:31] <volitek> the time before I had just switched between two workspaces
[23:31] <[FreeBSD]> volitek: do you use anything special, like zfs?
[23:31] <volitek> nope
[23:32] <Synthbread> syntroPi: I only want to run a script, though.  do I have to write up a .desktop file just to run a script?
[23:32] <[FreeBSD]> it could be anything
[23:32] <syntroPi> Synthbread, never tried it but i guess: yes
[23:32] <|s-a|> volitek , i can't understand did you have a 16 gigs file ?
[23:32] <[FreeBSD]> volitek: i would leave a terminal visible with logs on tail just in case it leaves you a clue
[23:32] <volitek> 16 gigs of ram
[23:33] <volitek> okay, thanks, ill try it
[23:34] <http80> freebsd: as i was telling you, the 2nd drive has fedora as a back of my fedora box
[23:34] <[FreeBSD]> http80: what happeens when you mount it then?
[23:34] <phillyj> arg, getting this hdd to be writable is driving me crazy!
[23:35] <http80> well, i am new to linux, what are the steps to do that?
[23:35] <[FreeBSD]> http80: do fdisk -l
[23:35] <[FreeBSD]> as root
[23:35] <http80> i have that info already
[23:35] <[FreeBSD]> find the drive number, like sdc1 or whatever
[23:35] <http80> yes i have it already
[23:35] <Synthbread> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#Migrating_from_SLiM
[23:35] <[FreeBSD]> http80: do sudo -i
[23:35] <Synthbread> it's .xprofile instead of .xinitrc
[23:36] <[FreeBSD]> then mkdir /mnt/tmp ; mount /dev/sdc1 (or whatever it is) /mnt/tmp
[23:36] <http80> hold on. i have ubuntu in my living room
[23:36] <|s-a|> Synthbread , good :p
[23:37] <http80> freebsd: BRB
[23:37] <|s-a|> Synthbread , anyways xinit works with startx
[23:38] <phillyj> oh, nvm, gksu nautilus solved my hdd permissions problem
[23:38] <[FreeBSD]> Synthbread: this is why i like window managers, just put "exec whatever" in the bottom of the config
[23:38] <[FreeBSD]> no messing arounf
[23:38] <|s-a|> phillyj , what was the problem ?
[23:38] <betrayd> yeah used to have xmodmap too but the desktop neeeded a restart for the keys to take effect. Not sure how unity would work there
[23:45] <zergion> I have permission issues, I have a index.php file in /var/www, issue is I can't edit it without using sudo. And I can't edit it using a ftp software either.
[23:45] <zergion> I tried to set it to 777, still no effect.
[23:45] <gordonjcp> !permissions | zergion
[23:46] <cxipher> ugh
[23:46] <http80> freebsd: did not work. mount /dev/sdb2 mount: can't find /dev/sdb2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[23:47] <http80> i can send you the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[23:47] <seronis> zergion: im a linux newb so take this advice with a bit of caution, but are the owner:group values of that directory set properly?  ie:  man chown
[23:48] <seronis> id imagine its currently set to 'root:root', try setting it to yourself or something more appropriate than root (like a group/user in charge of the website)
[23:48] <cxipher> *sigh* i was hoping for less glitches in 12.04. Movie player trakcs forward and back when i scroll the list. annoying.
[23:54] <nezzario> I have a small box with 512mb RAM and currently has netbsd on it.. the cd-rom is busted on it, usb boot is unavailable.. i got netbsd on there with netboot, i really don't want to finaggle with netboot since i'm not on the same network setup as before .. is there a way I could easily dd an installer over netbsd's stuff?
[23:55] <[FreeBSD]> http80: ok
[23:55] <betrayd> nezzario what if you break your netbsd and can't intsall, whats plan B?
[23:56] <nezzario> i'll just do tftp/netboot but it's just a pain..
[23:56] <dr_willis> nezzario:  you could do a full install to a usb flash then dd that over to the hd. then yse gparted to resize the fs.  but its an odd way.
[23:56] <betrayd> is the machine 'expendable'
[23:56] <nezzario> that's actually an excellent idea given my condition
[23:56] <nezzario> yeah i don't give a crap about it it hasn't been booted in 6 mo
[23:57] <betrayd> lol
[23:57] <betrayd> iwas moer worried than you were lol
[23:59] <nezzario> well, .. will the ubuntu installer work OK over unreliable net connections?
[23:59] <nezzario> or is it going to be an extreme hassle?