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| Dlabz | Hi, guys... I'm temped to take ubuntu studio for a spinn. Anyone knows if it will pick up my M-audio profire 610, and Behringer BCD2000 (I only need MIDI from it)? thanks | 12:26 |
| zequence | Dlabz: Have a look here http://wiki.linuxmusicians.com/doku.php?id=hardware | 12:26 |
| zequence | Dlabz: ALSA is for usb and pci only | 12:27 |
| Dlabz | thanks, zequence . In your oppinion, does it provide any benefits over windows? | 12:28 |
| zequence | Dlabz: Well, you're asking the project leader of Ubuntu Studio, who hasn't been using Windows for at least 5 years, so might be you're asking the wrong person, if you want a subjective opinion that you can relate to :) | 12:28 |
| zequence | But, to name a few.. | 12:29 |
| zequence | jack (which also exists on Windows these days) allows you to interconnect different applications | 12:29 |
| Dlabz | hahah.. nice... right person to ask... If you can't sell it, I aint installin' :) | 12:29 |
| zequence | And all pro audio apps on Linux support jack | 12:29 |
| zequence | Well, the first argument is of course: it's free (as in speech) | 12:30 |
| zequence | In fact, you can also connect desktop audio to any jack application | 12:31 |
| zequence | The big plus with free open software is that it's well, open. So, they tend to share functionality in a way that you don't see with proprietary software, who often try hard to not share it | 12:32 |
| zequence | If you're into producing music, you'll want to check out Ardour | 12:33 |
| zequence | ardour3, especially | 12:33 |
| Dlabz | I get the general advantage of FOSS... And I did notice that linux sound better than windows on same hardware | 12:33 |
| zequence | The free plugins are prettyd decent | 12:33 |
| zequence | sounds better? | 12:34 |
| zequence | It's just 0s and 1s | 12:34 |
| Dlabz | yeah... seems alsa architecture is better | 12:34 |
| Dlabz | but, I usually go back to windows after spending a week tryng to make my hardware work | 12:35 |
| zequence | Most, or all PCI cards work | 12:36 |
| Dlabz | I only have this firewire thingie | 12:36 |
| zequence | USB, only a select few have full support. Most work with USB 1.1 compliancy, but only a few work with 2.0 | 12:36 |
| zequence | When it comes to firewire, there is a list | 12:36 |
| zequence | http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list | 12:36 |
| zequence | firewire uses the ffado drivers. They are only supported by jack | 12:37 |
| Dlabz | yes, I've seen that.. not really assuring | 12:37 |
| zequence | Well, if you get the right device, it will work | 12:38 |
| zequence | I myself have a focusrite pro 40 | 12:38 |
| zequence | Works like a dream | 12:38 |
| zequence | So, in your case, it says "reported to work" | 12:39 |
| Dlabz | also reported not to work @ 192k | 12:39 |
| zequence | you use that a lot? | 12:39 |
| Dlabz | Actually yes | 12:40 |
| zequence | Dlabz: What you could do is get the live DVD, and try it. No need to install. If it works, fine. If it doesn't, than you know | 12:41 |
| zequence | Dlabz: And also, if it doesn't, take some time to write to the company about it. Maybe that will help too | 12:42 |
| zequence | Right now, all the drivers are made by volunteers | 12:42 |
| Dlabz | right. That sounds like a plan... Though, I'd probably go with an usb | 12:42 |
| zequence | In some cases, the company helps them by providing them with a free example, and design data | 12:43 |
| zequence | usb is even less supported | 12:43 |
| Dlabz | I'd probably have more success making it my self... | 12:43 |
| zequence | making what yourself? | 12:44 |
| zequence | drivers? | 12:44 |
| Dlabz | still, I'm here to avoid getting sucked in to spending a year making a driver | 12:44 |
| zequence | As I see it, you have one choice | 12:45 |
| zequence | Either get hardware that is supported and install Linux, or not | 12:45 |
| Dlabz | Windows now seems cheeper than free :) | 12:45 |
| zequence | If you believe your freedoms do not mean much to you, and probably you are not paying for it anyway | 12:46 |
| zequence | The problem with Windows users is also they expect things to be made for them for free, without the need to participate | 12:46 |
| zequence | Linux audio software is mostly made by volunteers | 12:47 |
| zequence | If you get problems, you are able to speak with the developer directly | 12:47 |
| zequence | Try calling Bill Gates, when you have opinions about Windows ;) | 12:47 |
| Dlabz | I do my share on the FOSS scene... though mostly on the 3D scene | 12:47 |
| Dlabz | I'm considering linux as I want to try to implement the concept of 3D sound I've been juggling in my head for some time | 12:49 |
| Dlabz | I think I could get more achieved on that field, than as a driver-maker for a proprietary hardware | 12:50 |
| zequence | Again, your best chance of getting something done on Linux is getting supported hardware first | 12:51 |
| zequence | It's just like using Mac. Not everything supports Mac | 12:52 |
| zequence | But, if you want to use it, you have no choice | 12:52 |
| zequence | You need to get the hardware that is supported for it | 12:52 |
| Dlabz | yes... sadly, I'm not in a position to spend another $900 on a soundcard that will match my needs | 12:52 |
| zequence | And if you can't accept that, you should really take it up with the hardware manufacturer | 12:52 |
| zequence | I hardly think you need to spend $900 for a card. More like 200-300$ for your needs | 12:53 |
| zequence | But, that is the choice you need to make - if in fact your device isn't supported enough | 12:53 |
| Dlabz | there is a card I'd be willing to switch to... e-mu 1820m ... | 12:58 |
| Dlabz | ALSA wiki says support for it arriving in 1.0.14 ... so, that's an option to consider | 13:05 |
| zequence | Alsa is at 1.0.25 on Ubuntu 13.04 | 13:11 |
| Dlabz | :) I got that... Found couple of posts about people got it working, even | 13:19 |
| Dlabz | brb... reboot | 13:20 |
| brian_ | Does anyone know how to click on the record button on ZynAddSubFX? | 14:45 |
| brian_ | It is greyed out. | 14:47 |
| brian_ | Ok it's alright. | 14:50 |
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| cinerella | hello, how do i install french cinerella using apt-get command .....thanks a lot | 22:38 |
| len-k | cinerella: that would be package specific. | 22:39 |
| len-k | It would depend on the packager on the site of the PPA you are using. | 22:40 |
| cinerella | thanks len-k . i shall look for the package, i am suprise cinerella is not on ubuntustudio 13.10 ! | 22:43 |
| len-k | cinerella: it is not even in our repos. | 22:43 |
| zequence | This is because of some problems with the license, if I remember correctly | 22:45 |
| zequence | Otherwise, it would be in Debian, and therefore also in Ubuntu / Studio | 22:45 |
| cinerella | what the difference between ubuntustudio and Ubuntu / Studio ? | 22:47 |
| len-k | I think he meant ubuntu in general and ubuntustudio specically | 22:48 |
| cinerella | zequence ; do you mean dreamstudio ? | 22:48 |
| cinerella | is there a live Debian including cinerella ? | 22:50 |
| zequence | Like len-k said, I meant Ubuntu and Ubuntu Studio | 22:53 |
| zequence | Ubuntu Studio == Ubuntu | 22:53 |
| zequence | Dream Studio is based on Ubuntu and KX PPAs | 22:54 |
| cinerella | i found the pakage for my raring here https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa but i do not know what to write for : sudo add-apt-repository ppa??????????. can someone enlight me ? | 23:13 |
| zequence | cinerella: Under the text, "Adding your PPA to your system".. | 23:15 |
| zequence | ppa:cinelerra-ppa/ppa | 23:15 |
| zequence | So.. | 23:15 |
| zequence | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cinerella-ppa/ppa | 23:15 |
| zequence | "ppa:" means it's a launchpad ppa(personal package archive), "cinerella-ppa" is the project name, the ending "ppa" is the ppa name | 23:16 |
| cinerella | " sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cinerella-ppa/ppa" it gave me check PPA information | 23:20 |
| zequence | cinerella: Seems like I misspelled cinelerra | 23:21 |
| zequence | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cinelerra-ppa/ppa | 23:22 |
| cinerella | zequence thanks --gpg: key 432BB368: public key "Launchpad PPA for Cinelerra" imported gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: imported: 1 (RSA: 1) OK | 23:31 |
| cinerella | beaucoup merci à Kaj Ailomaa every body have i nice evenning --Pat Morizot | 23:35 |
| zequence | cinerella: You too :) | 23:36 |
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