=== che is now known as Guest87014 === Guest87014 is now known as Hobbit === Hobbit is now known as Evgen [02:49] Che === anonymous is now known as Guest90792 === Guest90792 is now known as AnonymousVenezue === TheMaster is now known as Hypnotoad [12:26] Hi, guys... I'm temped to take ubuntu studio for a spinn. Anyone knows if it will pick up my M-audio profire 610, and Behringer BCD2000 (I only need MIDI from it)? thanks [12:26] Dlabz: Have a look here http://wiki.linuxmusicians.com/doku.php?id=hardware [12:27] Dlabz: ALSA is for usb and pci only [12:28] thanks, zequence . In your oppinion, does it provide any benefits over windows? [12:28] Dlabz: Well, you're asking the project leader of Ubuntu Studio, who hasn't been using Windows for at least 5 years, so might be you're asking the wrong person, if you want a subjective opinion that you can relate to :) [12:29] But, to name a few.. [12:29] jack (which also exists on Windows these days) allows you to interconnect different applications [12:29] hahah.. nice... right person to ask... If you can't sell it, I aint installin' :) [12:29] And all pro audio apps on Linux support jack [12:30] Well, the first argument is of course: it's free (as in speech) [12:31] In fact, you can also connect desktop audio to any jack application [12:32] The big plus with free open software is that it's well, open. So, they tend to share functionality in a way that you don't see with proprietary software, who often try hard to not share it [12:33] If you're into producing music, you'll want to check out Ardour [12:33] ardour3, especially [12:33] I get the general advantage of FOSS... And I did notice that linux sound better than windows on same hardware [12:33] The free plugins are prettyd decent [12:34] sounds better? [12:34] It's just 0s and 1s [12:34] yeah... seems alsa architecture is better [12:35] but, I usually go back to windows after spending a week tryng to make my hardware work [12:36] Most, or all PCI cards work [12:36] I only have this firewire thingie [12:36] USB, only a select few have full support. Most work with USB 1.1 compliancy, but only a few work with 2.0 [12:36] When it comes to firewire, there is a list [12:36] http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list [12:37] firewire uses the ffado drivers. They are only supported by jack [12:37] yes, I've seen that.. not really assuring [12:38] Well, if you get the right device, it will work [12:38] I myself have a focusrite pro 40 [12:38] Works like a dream [12:39] So, in your case, it says "reported to work" [12:39] also reported not to work @ 192k [12:39] you use that a lot? [12:40] Actually yes [12:41] Dlabz: What you could do is get the live DVD, and try it. No need to install. If it works, fine. If it doesn't, than you know [12:42] Dlabz: And also, if it doesn't, take some time to write to the company about it. Maybe that will help too [12:42] Right now, all the drivers are made by volunteers [12:42] right. That sounds like a plan... Though, I'd probably go with an usb [12:43] In some cases, the company helps them by providing them with a free example, and design data [12:43] usb is even less supported [12:43] I'd probably have more success making it my self... [12:44] making what yourself? [12:44] drivers? [12:44] still, I'm here to avoid getting sucked in to spending a year making a driver [12:45] As I see it, you have one choice [12:45] Either get hardware that is supported and install Linux, or not [12:45] Windows now seems cheeper than free :) [12:46] If you believe your freedoms do not mean much to you, and probably you are not paying for it anyway [12:46] The problem with Windows users is also they expect things to be made for them for free, without the need to participate [12:47] Linux audio software is mostly made by volunteers [12:47] If you get problems, you are able to speak with the developer directly [12:47] Try calling Bill Gates, when you have opinions about Windows ;) [12:47] I do my share on the FOSS scene... though mostly on the 3D scene [12:49] I'm considering linux as I want to try to implement the concept of 3D sound I've been juggling in my head for some time [12:50] I think I could get more achieved on that field, than as a driver-maker for a proprietary hardware [12:51] Again, your best chance of getting something done on Linux is getting supported hardware first [12:52] It's just like using Mac. Not everything supports Mac [12:52] But, if you want to use it, you have no choice [12:52] You need to get the hardware that is supported for it [12:52] yes... sadly, I'm not in a position to spend another $900 on a soundcard that will match my needs [12:52] And if you can't accept that, you should really take it up with the hardware manufacturer [12:53] I hardly think you need to spend $900 for a card. More like 200-300$ for your needs [12:53] But, that is the choice you need to make - if in fact your device isn't supported enough [12:58] there is a card I'd be willing to switch to... e-mu 1820m ... [13:05] ALSA wiki says support for it arriving in 1.0.14 ... so, that's an option to consider [13:11] Alsa is at 1.0.25 on Ubuntu 13.04 [13:19] :) I got that... Found couple of posts about people got it working, even [13:20] brb... reboot [14:45] Does anyone know how to click on the record button on ZynAddSubFX? [14:47] It is greyed out. [14:50] Ok it's alright. === jim is now known as Guest78260 [22:38] hello, how do i install french cinerella using apt-get command .....thanks a lot [22:39] cinerella: that would be package specific. [22:40] It would depend on the packager on the site of the PPA you are using. [22:43] thanks len-k . i shall look for the package, i am suprise cinerella is not on ubuntustudio 13.10 ! [22:43] cinerella: it is not even in our repos. [22:45] This is because of some problems with the license, if I remember correctly [22:45] Otherwise, it would be in Debian, and therefore also in Ubuntu / Studio [22:47] what the difference between ubuntustudio and Ubuntu / Studio ? [22:48] I think he meant ubuntu in general and ubuntustudio specically [22:48] zequence ; do you mean dreamstudio ? [22:50] is there a live Debian including cinerella ? [22:53] Like len-k said, I meant Ubuntu and Ubuntu Studio [22:53] Ubuntu Studio == Ubuntu [22:54] Dream Studio is based on Ubuntu and KX PPAs [23:13] i found the pakage for my raring here https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa but i do not know what to write for : sudo add-apt-repository ppa??????????. can someone enlight me ? [23:15] cinerella: Under the text, "Adding your PPA to your system".. [23:15] ppa:cinelerra-ppa/ppa [23:15] So.. [23:15] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cinerella-ppa/ppa [23:16] "ppa:" means it's a launchpad ppa(personal package archive), "cinerella-ppa" is the project name, the ending "ppa" is the ppa name [23:20] " sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cinerella-ppa/ppa" it gave me check PPA information [23:21] cinerella: Seems like I misspelled cinelerra [23:22] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cinelerra-ppa/ppa [23:31] zequence thanks --gpg: key 432BB368: public key "Launchpad PPA for Cinelerra" imported gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: imported: 1 (RSA: 1) OK [23:35] beaucoup merci à Kaj Ailomaa every body have i nice evenning --Pat Morizot [23:36] cinerella: You too :)