[02:49] <Evgen> Che
[12:26] <Dlabz> Hi, guys... I'm temped to take ubuntu studio for a spinn. Anyone knows if it will pick up my M-audio profire 610, and Behringer BCD2000 (I only need MIDI from it)? thanks
[12:26] <zequence> Dlabz: Have a look here http://wiki.linuxmusicians.com/doku.php?id=hardware
[12:27] <zequence> Dlabz: ALSA is for usb and pci only
[12:28] <Dlabz> thanks, zequence . In your oppinion, does it provide any benefits over windows?
[12:28] <zequence> Dlabz: Well, you're asking the project leader of Ubuntu Studio, who hasn't been using Windows for at least 5 years, so might be you're asking the wrong person, if you want a subjective opinion that you can relate to :)
[12:29] <zequence> But, to name a few..
[12:29] <zequence> jack (which also exists on Windows these days) allows you to interconnect different applications
[12:29] <Dlabz> hahah.. nice... right person to ask... If you can't sell it, I aint installin' :)
[12:29] <zequence> And all pro audio apps on Linux support jack
[12:30] <zequence> Well, the first argument is of course: it's free (as in speech)
[12:31] <zequence> In fact, you can also connect desktop audio to any jack application
[12:32] <zequence> The big plus with free open software is that it's well, open. So, they tend to share functionality in a way that you don't see with proprietary software, who often try hard to not share it
[12:33] <zequence> If you're into producing music, you'll want to check out Ardour
[12:33] <zequence> ardour3, especially
[12:33] <Dlabz> I get the general advantage of FOSS... And I did notice that linux sound better than windows on same hardware
[12:33] <zequence> The free plugins are prettyd decent
[12:34] <zequence> sounds better?
[12:34] <zequence> It's just 0s and 1s
[12:34] <Dlabz> yeah... seems alsa architecture is better
[12:35] <Dlabz> but, I usually go back to windows after spending a week tryng to make my hardware work
[12:36] <zequence> Most, or all PCI cards work
[12:36] <Dlabz> I only have this firewire thingie
[12:36] <zequence> USB, only a select few have full support. Most work with USB 1.1 compliancy, but only a few work with 2.0
[12:36] <zequence> When it comes to firewire, there is a list
[12:36] <zequence> http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list
[12:37] <zequence> firewire uses the ffado drivers. They are only supported by jack
[12:37] <Dlabz> yes, I've seen that.. not really assuring
[12:38] <zequence> Well, if you get the right device, it will work
[12:38] <zequence> I myself have a focusrite pro 40
[12:38] <zequence> Works like a dream
[12:39] <zequence> So, in your case, it says "reported to work"
[12:39] <Dlabz> also reported not to work @ 192k
[12:39] <zequence> you use that a lot?
[12:40] <Dlabz> Actually yes
[12:41] <zequence> Dlabz: What you could do is get the live DVD, and try it. No need to install. If it works, fine. If it doesn't, than you know
[12:42] <zequence> Dlabz: And also, if it doesn't, take some time to write to the company about it. Maybe that will help too
[12:42] <zequence> Right now, all the drivers are made by volunteers
[12:42] <Dlabz> right. That sounds like a plan... Though, I'd probably go with an usb
[12:43] <zequence> In some cases, the company helps them by providing them with a free example, and design data
[12:43] <zequence> usb is even less supported
[12:43] <Dlabz> I'd probably have more success making it my self...
[12:44] <zequence> making what yourself?
[12:44] <zequence> drivers?
[12:44] <Dlabz> still, I'm here to avoid getting sucked in to spending a year making a driver
[12:45] <zequence> As I see it, you have one choice
[12:45] <zequence> Either get hardware that is supported and install Linux, or not
[12:45] <Dlabz> Windows now seems cheeper than free :)
[12:46] <zequence> If you believe your freedoms do not mean much to you, and probably you are not paying for it anyway
[12:46] <zequence> The problem with Windows users is also they expect things to be made for them for free, without the need to participate
[12:47] <zequence> Linux audio software is mostly made by volunteers
[12:47] <zequence> If you get problems, you are able to speak with the developer directly
[12:47] <zequence> Try calling Bill Gates, when you have opinions about Windows ;)
[12:47] <Dlabz> I do my share on the FOSS scene... though mostly on the 3D scene
[12:49] <Dlabz> I'm considering linux as I want to try to implement the concept of 3D sound I've been juggling in my head for some time
[12:50] <Dlabz> I think I could get more achieved on that field, than as a driver-maker for a proprietary hardware
[12:51] <zequence> Again, your best chance of getting something done on Linux is getting supported hardware first
[12:52] <zequence> It's just like using Mac. Not everything supports Mac
[12:52] <zequence> But, if you want to use it, you have no choice
[12:52] <zequence> You need to get the hardware that is supported for it
[12:52] <Dlabz> yes... sadly, I'm not in a position to spend another $900 on a soundcard that will match my needs
[12:52] <zequence> And if you can't accept that, you should really take it up with the hardware manufacturer
[12:53] <zequence> I hardly think you need to spend $900 for a card. More like 200-300$ for your needs
[12:53] <zequence> But, that is the choice you need to make - if in fact your device isn't supported enough
[12:58] <Dlabz> there is a card I'd be willing to switch to... e-mu 1820m ...
[13:05] <Dlabz> ALSA wiki says support for it arriving in  1.0.14 ... so, that's an option to consider
[13:11] <zequence> Alsa is at 1.0.25 on Ubuntu 13.04
[13:19] <Dlabz> :) I got that... Found couple of posts about people got it working, even
[13:20] <Dlabz> brb... reboot
[14:45] <brian_> Does anyone know how to click on the record button on ZynAddSubFX?
[14:47] <brian_> It is greyed out.
[14:50] <brian_> Ok it's alright.
[22:38] <cinerella> hello, how do i install french cinerella using apt-get command .....thanks a lot
[22:39] <len-k> cinerella: that would be package specific.
[22:40] <len-k> It would depend on the packager on the site of the PPA you are using.
[22:43] <cinerella> thanks len-k . i shall look for the package,  i am suprise cinerella is not on ubuntustudio 13.10 !
[22:43] <len-k> cinerella: it is not even in our repos.
[22:45] <zequence> This is because of some problems with the license, if I remember correctly
[22:45] <zequence> Otherwise, it would be in Debian, and therefore also in Ubuntu / Studio
[22:47] <cinerella> what the difference between ubuntustudio and Ubuntu / Studio ?
[22:48] <len-k> I think he meant ubuntu in general and ubuntustudio specically
[22:48] <cinerella> zequence ; do you mean dreamstudio ?
[22:50] <cinerella> is there a live Debian including cinerella ?
[22:53] <zequence> Like len-k said, I meant Ubuntu and Ubuntu Studio
[22:53] <zequence> Ubuntu Studio == Ubuntu
[22:54] <zequence> Dream Studio is based on Ubuntu and KX PPAs
[23:13] <cinerella>  i found the pakage for my raring here https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa but i do not know what to write for : sudo add-apt-repository ppa??????????. can someone enlight me ?
[23:15] <zequence> cinerella: Under the text, "Adding your PPA to your system"..
[23:15] <zequence> ppa:cinelerra-ppa/ppa
[23:15] <zequence> So..
[23:15] <zequence> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cinerella-ppa/ppa
[23:16] <zequence> "ppa:" means it's a launchpad ppa(personal package archive), "cinerella-ppa" is the project name, the ending "ppa" is the ppa name
[23:20] <cinerella> "  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cinerella-ppa/ppa" it gave me check  PPA information
[23:21] <zequence> cinerella: Seems like I misspelled cinelerra
[23:22] <zequence> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cinelerra-ppa/ppa
[23:31] <cinerella> zequence   thanks --gpg: key 432BB368: public key "Launchpad PPA for Cinelerra" imported gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg:               imported: 1  (RSA: 1) OK
[23:35] <cinerella> beaucoup merci à Kaj Ailomaa every body have i nice evenning --Pat Morizot
[23:36] <zequence> cinerella: You too :)