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GridCubeits too late to add feature requests?13:09
GridCubei would like to add a request for proxy settings on the settings manager13:09
ochosiGridCube: you mean too late for feature-requests in xfce or xubuntu?14:19
GridCubeprobably both isnt it?14:23
ochosiwell depends14:26
ochosixfce doesn't have anything network-related in the settings yet14:27
ochosiso it'd have to be something rather new14:27
ochosiand it could be that for that it's too late14:27
ochosibut we can start doing it for xubuntu, i think it's a good idea to have something like that14:27
ochosi(sucks a bit that nm-applet doesn't handle the proxies)14:28
GridCubetrue14:29
GridCubehttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-proxy-support14:29
GridCube¿?14:29
GridCube>marking the proxy tasks all postponed -- we're focusing on mobile, and it seems as though there is interest upstream in NM to do the proxy development, whereas I can't really spend time on it at this point. It will definitely come back later if it isn't relatively quickly implemented by NM upstream.14:30
GridCube:/14:31
ochosiyeah, there ya go14:31
ochosidefinitely better to do within nm-applet14:31
GridCubecan we poke nm upstream a bit?14:36
ochosisure14:36
ochosiwe can always try14:36
ochosii'd first try to find their roadmap or check the bugtracker, the feature must be mentioned somewhere14:36
GridCubehttp://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/tree/TODO#n24814:56
ochosihm, sounds complicated...14:57
ochosinot the kind of thing you code in an afternoon14:57
ochosiand especially doesn't sound like anyone can easily do it, that task seems to demand some experience with network-manager and/or proxy-libs15:00
GridCubeand i imagine that the people with that knowhow already sets their proxies easily and wont bother to make it easier for the plebe15:05
ochosipossible15:05
ochosii mean there's the obvious way of setting the ENV_VAR15:05
GridCubethat wont work for everything15:06
ochosiyeah, and not for everyone ;)15:06
GridCubethe USC doesnt take its proxy settings from there15:06
GridCubei have no idea where it takes it15:06
GridCubei had to set the proxy on synaptic and then it worked on usc, no idea why, it didnt before 13.0415:07
matt_symesHi peeps. I have a problem with wireless (wl driver) broadcom 4313 [14e4:4727] on yesterdays xubuntu daily build - infact all builds under saucy. After a period of time the wireless will stop sending packets. Network manager thinks i'm still connected but i can't ping, resolve using dns or see any web pages17:41
matt_symesAnybody else seeing this ? The netbook is a Lenovo S20617:42
matt_symesIf i stop network manager and and connect using a wpa_supplicant file to the router i still lose connectivity. 17:43
matt_symesI notice that the broadcom driver has been updated from 6.20 to 6.30 under saucy. The thing is, if i keep network manager running and just disconnect and reconnect i regain connectivity. I increased wpa_supplicant debugging in the service file but could not see much wrong (although i', not 100% sure what to look for). There is nothing in syslog or dmesg that would point to the failure. I tried setting17:46
matt_symesan arp entry to see if that was the problem (arp -a and route was taking a while to return values when connectivity had stalled). The only thing i have not done is use wireshark or tcpdump to look at the packets17:46
matt_symesBTW: elfy suggested i post here before raising a bug to see i this was a known issue17:47
matt_symesbtw: 13.04 has been rock solid for wireless and general running :)17:49
matt_symesone last thing, messing with the  cards power management made no difference17:52
pleia2matt_symes: testing 13.10 or 13.04?17:55
pleia2oh, you said daily build17:55
pleia2I haven't heard of this issue and we're quite early in the cycle, I'd submit a but17:56
pleia2bug17:56
matt_symes13.10 pleia2. one yesterdays daily iso, an update 13.04=>13.10 and from the liveusb of the daily17:56
pleia2particularly with hardware issues it's not always common to find someone with an identical setup, so having hardware info is important17:56
matt_symesNo probs pleia2. I can supply all the info required17:56
pleia2thanks for testing :)17:56
matt_symesnp. I raise a bug in the next hour or so. Food first :)17:57
* elfy 's mission to drag people to testing from forum starts to work pleia2 ;)17:59
pleia2\o/18:02
Unit193matt_symes: Strangely, I have a BCM problem I haven't looked at too hard in Raring, so far on installed system only. :P18:04
matt_symesI did see a bug raised about arp and wl Unit193, but i'm not sure if this is the same issue as the bug was supposed to be fixed18:44
matt_symesThe thing is this netbook has no other connectivity18:44
Unit193Bug #1156138 was one I hit.18:51
ubottubug 1156138 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "bcmwl-kernel-source 6.20.155.1+bdcom-0ubuntu6: bcmwl kernel module failed to build [FATAL: modpost: GPL-incompatible module wl.ko uses GPL-only symbol '__rcu_read_unlock']" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115613818:51
matt_symesI did not hit that one Unit193. I did hit another one where dkms would not build the wl driver. There was a patch on launchpad though so i added it to dkms and manually rebuilt the driver using dkms. That was on mainline 3.9 kernel though. This is happening with a vanilla install, liveusb and upgraded raring->saucy. I hit bug #115788019:01
ubottubug 1157880 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "bcmwl-kernel-source 6.20.155.1+bdcom-0ubuntu6: bcmwl kernel module failed to build on kernel 3.9 [wl_cfg80211.c:2025:3: error: too few arguments to function ‘cfg80211_put_bss’]" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115788019:01
matt_symesThis bug is affecting the daily builds though19:02
Unit193knome: Going to harass bluesabre now?23:13
bluesabrewhats up?23:13
Unit193Heya, we were talking about options for keeping people (team members more so) online.23:15
bluesabreI'm hoping to purchase a server to keep a screen soon23:16
bluesabreI get paid tomorrow23:16
bluesabrebut if knome is going to provide...23:16
bluesabre:)23:16
pleia2I have a server specifically set aside to give fellow community members irc shell accounts23:16
bluesabreoh23:17
Unit193Awwh, but she wouldn't answer me. :(23:17
bluesabreawesome pleia2!23:17
Unit193bluesabre: What's your client of choice anyway?23:17
bluesabreEveryone else uses irssi, so I suppose that will do23:17
bluesabreI generally just use pidgin23:17
Unit193I've noticed, you've made me sad.23:18
pleia2Unit193: you said you'd be bad23:18
bluesabrewhy, are you the last xchat user?23:19
bluesabre:D23:19
Unit193pleia2: Kidding, and was kidding about the grsec question. :P  (I was also kidding then, about ruled out for that reason, I'm ruled out for another one though.)  Sorry.23:19
pleia2no monkeys on dagobah23:20
Unit193:(23:20
Unit193bluesabre: No, irssi here.23:20
bluesabreah23:21
pleia2bluesabre: if you want an account, just lyz@ubuntu.com me a username and public ssh key (or link to one in launchpad)23:21
bluesabreok, I'll do that now, thanks pleia2!23:21
pleia2I'm actually migrating to a new host soonish, but "soonish" is a lousy timeframe and means I probably won't do it for a while23:22
pleia2maybe september, or june23:22
bluesabrethat sounds like my soonish software releases23:22
Unit193pleia2: I'd assume not a thing I can help with in all of this?23:22
pleia2Unit193: nope23:22
pleia2thanks23:23
Unit193Ko, just trying to be helpful.23:23
pleia2unfortunately the server has been a bit wonky lately (unexpected reboots, boo) so I'm planning to move to linode now that they're cheaper instead of upgrading to debian 7 on this server, but that seems like a lot of work23:24
Unit193Oh?  Checking now...23:24
bluesabrepleia2, email sent23:26
pleia2bluesabre: replied with a question :)23:35
bluesabreha23:35
bluesabreyes23:35
pleia2bluesabre: I need to go run some errands, we can debug later if you have trouble logging in23:58
bluesabrethanks pleia2!23:59
bluesabrewoot, I'm in23:59

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