[00:52] valorie: ping [00:52] hi [00:52] any work done when I was gone? [00:53] I've been working, but not on docs, sorry [00:53] except for writing an email about it [00:53] thats fine [00:53] I see that [00:54] I'm about to take off; it's my night with my daddy in the nursing home [00:54] oh ok [00:55] one thing that might be useful is taking a look at userbase and techbase both, to see what we can link to [00:55] instead of writing ourselves [00:55] we're doing well linking to ubuntu wiki pages [00:56] rekonq and a few others are linked there [00:56] ktorrent I think as well [00:56] cool [00:57] ye [00:57] p [00:57] techbase has lots of info about how to build, test, etc. [00:57] ok, gotta go fix him a snack [00:57] post here or in the trello and I'll check that when I get home (~3 hours) [01:00] ok [01:09] valorie: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/AaronHoneycutt [04:44] ahoneybun: \o/ [04:44] lol I was just about to play Halo 4 lol [04:48] valorie: \0/ [04:48] that's fine; I have a blog post to write tonight anyway [04:49] morning here lol [04:52] I love those video chats [04:55] I think Darkwing's idea of a youtube channel is awesome [04:55] yea that is great [04:55] I put up a wiki page [05:00] yes, that's what made me happy [05:00] it shows that you are serious about membership [05:02] yea tbh its a bit about the cool @kubuntu.org and to be prove I have put effort into helping Kubuntu [05:04] exactly [05:04] but the @kubuntu.org is more about the honor of having it [05:04] keep in mind that it's about the greater ubuntu community as well [05:04] !membership [05:04] Ubuntu Membership means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [05:05] thats the word I was looking for recognition [05:05] *and to prove [05:06] well, for me it was all about having the email address [05:07] :-) [05:07] the work I was gonna do anyway [05:07] yea it is pretty cool [05:08] I would also be able to join the LinkedIn page [05:10] long wait though, but I'm looking forward to it [05:10] there is more privilege on launchpad as well [05:10] oh cool [05:10] and an IRC cloak [05:10] that is cool I saw that [05:12] I think that we should have hangouts more often, at least till we get the foundation done [05:14] perhaps we can get a schedule going [05:14] write to the list about that? [05:14] I was thinking that [05:14] sure [05:14] might be a good way to get more people involved [05:14] timezones make it a bit ard [05:14] hard [05:15] but right now at 5pm for me you guys seem there [05:15] sure, but a time can be chosen, and those who can attend, will do so [05:17] "I would like to offer the idea for a schedule to have video chats with Google's Hangout system. We will have the videos recorded and placed on a YouTube Channel also." [05:17] Thats what I have so fart [05:17] far [05:17] lol [05:17] no farting! [05:17] lol [05:17] sorry [05:17] type [05:17] typo lol [05:17] well, not on camera anyway [05:17] any else? [05:18] lol [05:18] anything [05:18] maybe suggest weekly while we are working on them intensively? [05:18] and a possible time in UTC [05:19] can you get that, cuz my firefox keeps making right click not working [05:19] work [05:20] nvm will use another browser [05:20] I just check the time in Reykevik on my phone [05:20] :-) [05:21] I dont see UTC on timeanddate.com [05:22] scroll to the bottom of the page [05:22] nvm [05:22] found it [05:22] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20130524T1630&p1=179&p2=0 [05:23] right? [05:24] um, there is a way to get that local to everyone [05:24] not sure how to do that [05:24] it isn't local for me: just New york [05:24] can't we put the time for UTC? [05:25] your in EST? [05:25] EDT [05:25] the meeting planner on that site? [05:25] yes, that's what I was saying [05:25] state the time in UTC [05:26] if you can get the timeanddate.com site to give you a url, great [05:26] but you're just asking to get a meeting scheduled [05:26] not setting a time in stone [05:26] so don't sweat it [05:27] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20130529&p1=835 [05:27] yea I know [05:27] so just send what I have now? [05:28] sure [05:28] this is a discussion, after all [05:28] yea [05:29] have you had problems with firefox and right clicking? [05:30] I rarely use ff anymore [05:30] usually chromium [05:30] I have stickers l [05:30] I used ff for many years, but the flash issues were so annoying [05:30] unixstickers has a KDE sticker but I want a Kubuntu one sooooo bad [05:30] I just used it less and less [05:31] its my go to browser on computer, tablet, phone [05:32] valorie: this is so cool http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=141253 [05:33] that's awesome [05:33] I know [05:33] I would print it and hand it out for free so fast [05:34] well, depending on what the barcode is [05:34] yea [05:35] your in what timezone? [05:36] PDT [05:36] oh ok [05:36] -0700 [05:37] ScottK: hey [05:37] wow its 7 there [05:37] am [05:37] Just going to be though because I'm in -0400 and it's late. [05:37] ? [05:37] what? [05:37] no, it's 10:30pm [05:37] oh [05:37] its 1:30am here [05:38] -0700 means 7 hours behind utc [05:39] ye [05:39] I see [05:41] should I take off that picture I made for the main page [05:42] well, I don't think we will go exactly that way [05:42] otoh, not everyone has read your email [05:42] so I would leave it for awhile [05:42] ? [05:42] the picture about how I thought we would do it? [05:43] sure [05:44] sorry, I'm in another conversation [05:44] atm [05:44] oh ok [05:49] valorie: I'm going to jump off for now [05:49] have a good night [05:50] you too [05:50] see ya [06:47] good morning [06:49] Hey soee, how are you doing? [06:50] lordievader, rainy today so i need some extra energy to work :D how are you ? [06:54] Doing good, getting ready to go to college. === vinay is now known as Guest38885 [08:36] happy merge Friday! [08:52] woot ? === sem_ is now known as peace-- [10:11] debuild -j8 is so satisfying [10:12] now iceccream and use -j17 :P [10:55] make -j9 [10:55] :P [10:56] * yofel is perfeclty happy with 5 [10:56] I've stopped using icecc lately, feels to buggy. Esp. as I have a mix of releases on my systems at home [11:23] Hiyas all [12:48] ug kopete requires v4l [12:48] but fails to compile with it in saucy [12:49] hmm, required unless I set DISABLE_VIDEOSUPPORT, that's confusing [12:53] bye, cu later :) === peace-- is now known as Peace- [18:40] ScottK: know any security folk? 1178286 needs some love [18:46] yofel: FYI auto-upgrade-tester is going to be deprecated [18:46] Ubuntu is adding upgrade testing to UTAH [18:47] I'm not too familiar with it, can we somehow re-use that? [18:47] I'm not familiar with it as wel, but it might be worthwile to look into it === valorie is now known as KDE_valorie === KDE_valorie is now known as kde_valorie [19:16] shadeslayer: Because the steps in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SponsorsQueue weren't done, the security team wouldn't have even seen it. Done now. [19:17] ahhh === kde_valorie is now known as valorie [20:12] apachelogger: I would appreciate it if you'd apply your vast multimedia expertise to bug #1183829 and figure out if there's an actual phonon bug there or if it's just in the bindings? [20:12] bug 1183829 in python-qt4 (Ubuntu) "Phonon Musepack playback is broken" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1183829 [20:13] already looking [20:24] apachelogger: Thanks. [20:54] shadeslayer: I see you've been training smartyboyhw. [20:59] valorie: Interesting blog post, but sometimes in cases where there is a large power disparity being loud and aggressive is the only way to get attention to your point of view. I don't think a quiet, polite discussion about "can we not do this insane thing called rolling release" would have worked to get people's attention. [21:00] Same thing with the whole community link on the website fiasco. [21:00] loud and agressive is different than abusive [21:00] Certainly while some people went overboard, it takes a certain amount of noise to get people's attention. [21:00] sticking to the issues vs. personal attacks [21:00] I've never heard you abuse anyone [21:00] you stick to the issues [21:01] To an outsider though these often look the same. [21:01] fighting fair is an art, to be sure [21:01] and requires practice [21:01] that reminds me, I started a post about that and never finished it [21:02] * valorie isn't saying that fighting is never required [21:02] Slightly ironically the only time that I recall being seriously called out for a CoC violation was when I told someone in a public IRC channel I was going to do everything in my power to get them banned from contributing to Ubuntu. [21:02] In that case I was just being honest. [21:03] Did it too. [21:03] :D [21:04] I assume you were addressing their behavior though, not their execrable personal habits? [21:04] Yes. [21:04] Some viewed it as a personal attack though. [21:04] sure [21:04] especially their friends, and your not-friends [21:04] I assume [21:05] No, neutral observers. [21:05] ok [21:05] well, I know when i've crossed the line [21:05] I can feel that little niggle [21:05] the nice thing with text is that it can be erased before sending [21:06] the hard thing about face to face is that it can't [21:11] * yofel goes fixing kde-workspace in saucy [21:12] yofel: what did I miss? [21:12] it seems you didn't completely review the install file changes so many breaks/replaces are missing [21:14] hmm sorry, I'll mind and do that better in these other ones I'm doing [21:14] which I also need to put on trello [21:15] this rolling release is already live ? [21:16] ScottK: I .. have? [21:16] shadeslayer: http://smartboyhw.tk/wordpress_smartboyhw/?p=61 [21:17] ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED [21:17] +1 [21:17] ah [21:17] it's sync'd to p.u.c [21:18] :P [21:18] Yeah. [21:18] that stuff tends to rub off [21:18] for eg. on Quintasan [21:28] Riddell: apachelogger who has that picture of us infront of the Windows error? [21:29] the night when we got supremely drunk [21:29] How much does that narrow it down? [21:29] one day [21:29] or rather, one night [21:29] Surprising. [21:29] apachelogger must be getting old and weak. [21:30] shadeslayer: which windows error? [21:30] I bet you know all about that [21:30] Riddell: the one which we saw on the street? [21:30] shadeslayer: oy, nuff cheak! [21:30] :P [21:30] shadeslayer: hmm still not remembering one [21:31] the one where we went to Placa de Catalunya [21:31] and people were celebrating the Football match win [21:31] and then we strolled down that street a bit, and came across this LCD panel that had a silly windows error [21:31] oh right, not sure I'm afraid I've not seen photos of it [21:32] yeah, IIRC afiestas_'s phone had them, but not sure [21:49] ScottK: :O [21:49] outragous! [21:49] how dare you [22:00] ::workspace-bugs:: [1183030] package plasma-widgets-workspace 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to ov... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1183030 (by Fila Kolodny) [22:00] ::workspace-bugs:: [1183031] package kdm 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/k... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1183031 (by Fila Kolodny) [22:00] ::workspace-bugs:: [1183032] package plasma-desktop 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1183032 (by Fila Kolodny) [22:03] * yofel reminds Quintasan to please review moved files on merges too [22:05] moved files? [22:05] oh files moved between packages