[00:52] <ahoneybun> valorie: ping
[00:52] <valorie> hi
[00:52] <ahoneybun> any work done when I was gone?
[00:53] <valorie> I've been working, but not on docs, sorry
[00:53] <valorie> except for writing an email about it
[00:53] <ahoneybun> thats fine
[00:53] <ahoneybun> I see that 
[00:54] <valorie> I'm about to take off; it's my night with my daddy in the nursing home
[00:54] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[00:55] <valorie> one thing that might be useful is taking a look at userbase and techbase both, to see what we can link to
[00:55] <valorie> instead of writing ourselves
[00:55] <valorie> we're doing well linking to ubuntu wiki pages
[00:56] <ahoneybun> rekonq and a few others are linked there
[00:56] <ahoneybun> ktorrent I think as well
[00:56] <valorie> cool
[00:57] <ahoneybun> ye
[00:57] <ahoneybun> p
[00:57] <valorie> techbase has lots of info about how to build, test, etc.
[00:57] <valorie> ok, gotta go fix him a snack
[00:57] <valorie> post here or in the trello and I'll check that when I get home (~3 hours)
[01:00] <ahoneybun> ok
[01:09] <ahoneybun> valorie: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/AaronHoneycutt
[04:44] <valorie> ahoneybun: \o/
[04:44] <ahoneybun> lol I was just about to play Halo 4 lol
[04:48] <ahoneybun> valorie: \0/
[04:48] <valorie> that's fine; I have a blog post to write tonight anyway
[04:49] <ahoneybun> morning here lol
[04:52] <ahoneybun> I love those video chats
[04:55] <valorie> I think Darkwing's idea of a youtube channel is awesome
[04:55] <ahoneybun> yea that is great 
[04:55] <ahoneybun> I put up a wiki page
[05:00] <valorie> yes, that's what made me happy
[05:00] <valorie> it shows that you are serious about membership
[05:02] <ahoneybun> yea tbh its a bit about the cool @kubuntu.org and to be prove I have put effort into helping Kubuntu
[05:04] <valorie> exactly
[05:04] <ahoneybun> but the @kubuntu.org is more about the honor of having it
[05:04] <valorie> keep in mind that it's about the greater ubuntu community as well
[05:04] <valorie> !membership
[05:05] <ahoneybun> thats the word I was looking for recognition
[05:05] <ahoneybun> *and to prove
[05:06] <valorie> well, for me it was all about having the email address
[05:07] <valorie> :-)
[05:07] <valorie> the work I was gonna do anyway
[05:07] <ahoneybun> yea it is pretty cool
[05:08] <ahoneybun> I would also be able to join the LinkedIn page
[05:10] <ahoneybun> long wait though, but I'm looking forward to it
[05:10] <valorie> there is more privilege on launchpad as well
[05:10] <ahoneybun> oh cool
[05:10] <valorie> and an IRC cloak
[05:10] <ahoneybun> that is cool I saw that
[05:12] <ahoneybun> I think that we should have hangouts more often, at least till we get the foundation done
[05:14] <valorie> perhaps we can get a schedule going
[05:14] <valorie> write to the list about that?
[05:14] <ahoneybun> I was thinking that
[05:14] <ahoneybun> sure
[05:14] <valorie> might be a good way to get more people involved
[05:14] <ahoneybun> timezones make it a bit ard
[05:14] <ahoneybun> hard
[05:15] <ahoneybun> but right now at 5pm for me you guys seem there
[05:15] <valorie> sure, but a time can be chosen, and those who can attend, will do so
[05:17] <ahoneybun> "I would like to offer the idea for a schedule to have video chats with Google's Hangout system.  We will have the videos recorded and placed on a YouTube Channel also."
[05:17] <ahoneybun> Thats what I have so fart
[05:17] <ahoneybun> far
[05:17] <ahoneybun> lol
[05:17] <valorie> no farting!
[05:17] <valorie> lol
[05:17] <ahoneybun> sorry
[05:17] <ahoneybun> type
[05:17] <ahoneybun> typo lol
[05:17] <valorie> well, not on camera anyway
[05:17] <ahoneybun> any else?
[05:18] <ahoneybun> lol
[05:18] <ahoneybun> anything
[05:18] <valorie> maybe suggest weekly while we are working on them intensively?
[05:18] <valorie> and a possible time in UTC
[05:19] <ahoneybun> can you get that, cuz my firefox keeps making right click not working
[05:19] <ahoneybun> work
[05:20] <ahoneybun> nvm will use another browser
[05:20] <valorie> I just check the time in Reykevik on my phone
[05:20] <valorie> :-)
[05:21] <ahoneybun> I dont see UTC on timeanddate.com
[05:22] <valorie> scroll to the bottom of the page
[05:22] <ahoneybun> nvm
[05:22] <ahoneybun> found it
[05:22] <ahoneybun> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20130524T1630&p1=179&p2=0
[05:23] <ahoneybun> right?
[05:24] <valorie> um, there is a way to get that local to everyone
[05:24] <valorie> not sure how to do that
[05:24] <valorie> it isn't local for me: just New york
[05:24] <ahoneybun> can't we put the time for UTC?
[05:25] <ahoneybun> your in EST?
[05:25] <ahoneybun> EDT
[05:25] <ahoneybun> the meeting planner on that site?
[05:25] <valorie> yes, that's what I was saying
[05:25] <valorie> state the time in UTC
[05:26] <valorie> if you can get the timeanddate.com site to give you a url, great
[05:26] <valorie> but you're just asking to get a meeting scheduled
[05:26] <valorie> not setting a time in stone
[05:26] <valorie> so don't sweat it
[05:27] <ahoneybun> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20130529&p1=835
[05:27] <ahoneybun> yea I know 
[05:27] <ahoneybun> so just send what I have now?
[05:28] <valorie> sure
[05:28] <valorie> this is a discussion, after all
[05:28] <ahoneybun> yea
[05:29] <ahoneybun> have you had problems with firefox and right clicking?
[05:30] <valorie> I rarely use ff anymore
[05:30] <valorie> usually chromium
[05:30] <ahoneybun> I have stickers l
[05:30] <valorie> I used ff for many years, but the flash issues were so annoying
[05:30] <ahoneybun> unixstickers has a KDE sticker but I want a Kubuntu one sooooo bad
[05:30] <valorie> I just used it less and less
[05:31] <ahoneybun> its my go to browser on computer, tablet, phone
[05:32] <ahoneybun> valorie: this is so cool http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=141253
[05:33] <valorie> that's awesome
[05:33] <ahoneybun> I know
[05:33] <ahoneybun> I would print it and hand it out for free so fast
[05:34] <valorie> well, depending on what the barcode is
[05:34] <ahoneybun> yea
[05:35] <ahoneybun> your in what timezone?
[05:36] <valorie> PDT
[05:36] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[05:36] <ScottK>  -0700
[05:37] <ahoneybun> ScottK: hey
[05:37] <ahoneybun> wow its 7 there
[05:37] <ahoneybun> am
[05:37] <ScottK> Just going to be though because I'm in -0400 and it's late.
[05:37] <ahoneybun> ?
[05:37] <valorie> what?
[05:37] <valorie> no, it's 10:30pm
[05:37] <ahoneybun> oh 
[05:37] <ahoneybun> its 1:30am here
[05:38] <valorie> -0700 means 7 hours behind utc
[05:39] <ahoneybun> ye
[05:39] <ahoneybun> I see
[05:41] <ahoneybun> should I take off that picture I made for the main page
[05:42] <valorie> well, I don't think we will go exactly that way
[05:42] <valorie> otoh, not everyone has read your email
[05:42] <valorie> so I would leave it for awhile
[05:42] <ahoneybun> ?
[05:42] <ahoneybun> the picture about how I thought we would do it?
[05:43] <valorie> sure
[05:44] <valorie> sorry, I'm in another conversation
[05:44] <valorie> atm
[05:44] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[05:49] <ahoneybun> valorie: I'm going to jump off for now
[05:49] <valorie> have a good night
[05:50] <ahoneybun> you too 
[05:50] <ahoneybun> see ya
[06:47] <soee> good morning
[06:49] <lordievader> Hey soee, how are you doing?
[06:50] <soee> lordievader, rainy today so i need some extra energy to work :D how are you ?
[06:54] <lordievader> Doing good, getting ready to go to college.
[08:36] <Riddell> happy merge Friday!
[08:52] <soee> woot ?
[10:11] <Riddell> debuild -j8 is so satisfying
[10:12] <apachelogger> now iceccream and use -j17 :P
[10:55] <peace-->   make -j9
[10:55] <peace--> :P
[10:56]  * yofel is perfeclty happy with 5
[10:56] <yofel> I've stopped using icecc lately, feels to buggy. Esp. as I have a mix of releases on my systems at home
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:48] <Riddell> ug kopete requires v4l
[12:48] <Riddell> but fails to compile with it in saucy
[12:49] <Riddell> hmm, required unless I set DISABLE_VIDEOSUPPORT, that's confusing
[12:53] <soee> bye, cu later :)
[18:40] <shadeslayer> ScottK: know any security folk? 1178286 needs some love
[18:46] <shadeslayer> yofel: FYI auto-upgrade-tester is going to be deprecated
[18:46] <shadeslayer> Ubuntu is adding upgrade testing to UTAH
[18:47] <yofel> I'm not too familiar with it, can we somehow re-use that?
[18:47] <shadeslayer> I'm not familiar with it as wel, but it might be worthwile to look into it
[19:16] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Because the steps in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SponsorsQueue weren't done, the security team wouldn't have even seen it.  Done now.
[19:17] <shadeslayer> ahhh
[20:12] <ScottK> apachelogger: I would appreciate it if you'd apply your vast multimedia expertise to bug #1183829 and figure out if there's an actual phonon bug there or if it's just in the bindings?
[20:13] <apachelogger> already looking
[20:24] <ScottK> apachelogger: Thanks.
[20:54] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I see you've been training smartyboyhw.
[20:59] <ScottK> valorie: Interesting blog post, but sometimes in cases where there is a large power disparity being loud and aggressive is the only way to get attention to your point of view.  I don't think a quiet, polite discussion about "can we not do this insane thing called rolling release" would have worked to get people's attention.
[21:00] <ScottK> Same thing with the whole community link on the website fiasco.  
[21:00] <valorie> loud and agressive is different than abusive
[21:00] <ScottK> Certainly while some people went overboard, it takes a certain amount of noise to get people's attention.
[21:00] <valorie> sticking to the issues vs. personal attacks
[21:00] <valorie> I've never heard you abuse anyone
[21:00] <valorie> you stick to the issues
[21:01] <ScottK> To an outsider though these often look the same.
[21:01] <valorie> fighting fair is an art, to be sure
[21:01] <valorie> and requires practice
[21:01] <valorie> that reminds me, I started a post about that and never finished it
[21:02]  * valorie isn't saying that fighting is never required
[21:02] <ScottK> Slightly ironically the only time that I recall being seriously called out for a CoC violation was when I told someone in a public IRC channel I was going to do everything in my power to get them banned from contributing to Ubuntu.
[21:02] <ScottK> In that case I was just being honest.
[21:03] <ScottK> Did it too.
[21:03] <soee>  :D
[21:04] <valorie> I assume you were addressing their behavior though, not their execrable personal habits?
[21:04] <ScottK> Yes.
[21:04] <ScottK> Some viewed it as a personal attack though.
[21:04] <valorie> sure
[21:04] <valorie> especially their friends, and your not-friends
[21:04] <valorie> I assume
[21:05] <ScottK> No, neutral observers.
[21:05] <valorie> ok
[21:05] <valorie> well, I know when i've crossed the line
[21:05] <valorie> I can feel that little niggle
[21:05] <valorie> the nice thing with text is that it can be erased before sending
[21:06] <valorie> the hard thing about face to face is that it can't
[21:11]  * yofel goes fixing kde-workspace in saucy
[21:12] <Riddell> yofel: what did I miss?
[21:12] <yofel> it seems you didn't completely review the install file changes so many breaks/replaces are missing
[21:14] <Riddell> hmm sorry, I'll mind and do that better in these other ones I'm doing
[21:14] <Riddell> which I also need to put on trello
[21:15] <soee> this rolling release is already live ?
[21:16] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I .. have? 
[21:16] <ScottK> shadeslayer: http://smartboyhw.tk/wordpress_smartboyhw/?p=61
[21:17] <shadeslayer> ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
[21:17] <apachelogger> +1
[21:17] <shadeslayer> ah
[21:17] <shadeslayer> it's sync'd to p.u.c
[21:18] <shadeslayer> :P
[21:18] <ScottK> Yeah.
[21:18] <shadeslayer> that stuff tends to rub off
[21:18] <shadeslayer> for eg. on Quintasan
[21:28] <shadeslayer> Riddell: apachelogger who has that picture of us infront of the Windows error?
[21:29] <shadeslayer> the night when we got supremely drunk
[21:29] <ScottK> How much does that narrow it down?
[21:29] <shadeslayer> one day
[21:29] <shadeslayer> or rather, one night
[21:29] <ScottK> Surprising.
[21:29] <ScottK> apachelogger must be getting old and weak.
[21:30] <Riddell> shadeslayer: which windows error?
[21:30] <shadeslayer> I bet you know all about that
[21:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: the one which we saw on the street?
[21:30] <Riddell> shadeslayer: oy, nuff cheak!
[21:30] <shadeslayer> :P
[21:30] <Riddell> shadeslayer: hmm still not remembering one
[21:31] <shadeslayer> the one where we went to Placa de Catalunya
[21:31] <shadeslayer> and people were celebrating the Football match win
[21:31] <shadeslayer> and then we strolled down that street a bit, and came across this LCD panel that had a silly windows error 
[21:31] <Riddell> oh right, not sure I'm afraid I've not seen photos of it
[21:32] <shadeslayer> yeah, IIRC afiestas_'s phone had them, but not sure
[21:49] <apachelogger> ScottK: :O
[21:49] <apachelogger> outragous!
[21:49] <apachelogger> how dare you
[22:00] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1183030] package plasma-widgets-workspace 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to ov... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1183030 (by Fila Kolodny)
[22:00] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1183031] package kdm 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/k... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1183031 (by Fila Kolodny)
[22:00] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1183032] package plasma-desktop 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1183032 (by Fila Kolodny)
[22:03]  * yofel reminds Quintasan to please review moved files on merges too
[22:05] <Riddell> moved files?
[22:05] <Riddell> oh files moved between packages