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pittiGood morning03:38
Mirvgood morning03:58
didrocksgood morning05:18
veebersmorning didrocks o/ It's early for you no?05:23
didrocksveebers: well, I'm up everyday for 1h at that time in fact :)05:25
didrocksit's 7h25 now, so quite fine :)05:25
didrocks(most of the time I finish catching up on email before connecting)05:25
veebersdidrocks: oh err, my bad sorry :-p05:25
thumperhi didrocks05:25
thumperdidrocks: just here in time for me to say good night05:25
didrocksmissed :)05:26
didrockshey Mirv, how are you?05:40
tvossdidrocks, ping05:48
Mirvdidrocks: fine, trying to get symbols right for qtscript, I'll let you know when I have something05:48
didrocksMirv: thanks!05:48
didrockstvoss: pong05:48
tjaaltonnotify-osd is crashing all the time on saucy, is it a known issue?06:23
didrockshum, I don't see it. do you have gtk 3.8 by any chance?06:24
tjaaltonno, 3.6.406:26
didrocksinteresting, I didn't get it there :/ sent your traceback to launchpad?06:27
tjaaltonapport doesn't seem to send it to lp06:27
tjaaltonI'll try after latest updates06:28
didrocksok :)06:29
jibelgood morning06:44
didrockssalut jibel!06:46
jibelbonjour didrocks06:50
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seb128hey desktopers, happy friday!07:23
didrockshappy friday seb128!07:27
seb128didrocks, to you too!07:30
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didrocksMirv: having issues getting the armhf symbols?07:52
Mirvdidrocks: not really, just trying to make sure on the first time07:56
Laneyhey07:59
Laneyhappy long weekend friday ;-)07:59
didrocksLaney: long weekend? we never have that in France :p08:00
Laneybecause every weekend is three days right?08:00
didrocksahah ;)08:00
seb128hey Laney, happy friday!08:00
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Mirvdidrocks: ok, I have successful builds with what I pushed now to qtscript for all 3 archs - pbuilder for i386/amd64 and bzr bd for armhf (on device)08:05
didrocksMirv: great! there is not any other FTBFS? (apart from qttools that I didn't push yet)08:06
Mirvdidrocks: there qtmultimedia on armhf but Adam Conrad fixed it. others, no, and yes qttools todo (I'd like to check its symbols as well beforehand)08:06
Mirvthere was08:06
didrocksMirv: anything will block the migration to the canonical archive then? (even if we didn't rebuild qt3d and so on)08:07
didrockswaow08:08
* didrocks launched rhythmbox08:08
Mirvdidrocks: tested saucy-proposed, all seems good for migration even without updated qttools08:31
Mirv(or qt3d etc)08:31
didrocksMirv: excellent :)08:35
seb128didrocks, did you guys have any chance to run unity tests with the new gtk?08:57
didrocksseb128: I'm waiting for jibel to have finished the first otto setup that we need, and then, we'll try on it08:58
seb128didrocks, ok, is that likely to be today? rather earlier than late?08:59
didrocksseb128: that's likely to be today, I would say later though09:02
seb128hum, k09:02
seb128I'm pondering keeping the hold on gtk or not09:02
didrockswell, what's the urgency that would force us to publish gtk without tests?09:02
seb128it's just being overcautious, we had a run with 3.8 before raring when we first considered updating, and we had autopkgtests to run09:03
seb128it's not "without tests", we have been ppa testing it for 3 months09:03
didrocksif you feel confident and there is a need, go for it :)09:03
seb128and we had all autopkgtests from the archive to work09:03
didrocksand you are sure you don't regress autopilot tests ;)09:03
seb128it used to no, I don't know of the current status09:03
seb128there is no hurry09:04
seb128but while it's in proposed it's blocked things on top of gtk from migrating to the archive as well09:04
seb128not to mention that jbicha throwed a gtksourceview soname transition on top of it09:04
seb128blocking*09:05
didrockswell, UTAH is failing a lot of unity tests09:05
didrocksif it was working better, I would just throw it09:05
didrocksbut I think we prefer to not wait 3h to not have reliable results09:05
didrocksand better to get some with otto09:05
seb128right, I'm just pondering what's the right balance for gtk, e.G thinking out loud :p09:06
seb128Laney, wdyt?09:06
seb128wait on unity autopilot tests or just unblock it?09:06
Laneyhmm09:07
Laneydid we get an autopilot test before?09:08
didrocksnot on current saucy09:08
SweetsharkMoin from LinuxTag Berlin09:08
seb128we had one on 3.7.90 or 3.8.0 before raring, at the same when we first tried to land it09:08
seb128which was green09:08
seb128same->time (doh)09:08
seb128not since09:08
didrocksLaney: seb128: you can run it on your machine09:10
didrocksas well09:10
didrockslike take saucy, run autopilot09:10
didrocksuse -proposed rerun autopilot :)09:10
didrocksthat's another option09:10
seb128I wonder how long autopilot takes on my netbook :p09:11
seb128let's try that out09:11
didrocksseb128: TBH, that won't change from the traditional 30 minutes I guess09:11
didrocksseb128: most of the time is spent on sleep()09:11
didrockswell, 45 at most :p09:11
seb128well, I'm not using the nb, so let's start and see09:12
didrockssounds like a good alternative :)09:12
didrocksthanks seb12809:12
Laneysounds good09:12
Laneymeans we don't get some huge backlog in proposed09:12
Laneygtksourceview is in that category as it deps on >= 3.7.something09:13
seb128didrocks, thanks for the suggestion ;-) (netbook in the middle of the saucy upgrade, then I will run autopilot)09:22
didrocksyw09:23
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Mirvdidrocks: we tweaked the python-evdev tasks once more, sil2100 gets to know how to submit stuff to Debian and I'll help + cross-check with him11:18
sil2100I'm a debian-sponsoring vigin...11:19
sil2100*virgin11:19
Laneythat's quite the confession11:22
sil2100I know, I'm not proud of it :( But I hope Mirv will help me through into adult-debian life11:23
Laneyas long as you're both consenting11:23
mlankhorstok..11:32
mlankhorstdid I walk in at the wrong time?11:32
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* Laney covers mlankhorst's eyes11:54
Laneycyphermox: are you still handling evo?11:57
Laneywas poking at empathy 3.8, which requires folks 0.9, which requires eds 3.7.9011:59
didrocksMirv: ok, thanks!12:08
didrocksMirv: you didn't tell me if qttools is ready12:16
Mirvdidrocks: pushed that now, I'm just unsure about powerpc, but i386, amd64 and armhf are tested now12:19
didrocksMirv: ok, let's try that I guess12:19
Mirvdidrocks: what about qtscript?12:20
didrocksMirv: it's uploaded12:20
xylonHello there12:23
Mirvdidrocks: I'm not seeing qtscript ubuntu2 in LP, archives or queue12:34
Mirvdidrocks: now I see :)12:35
didrocksMirv: I uploaded it 15 minutes ago12:35
Mirvyes, refreshed and noticed that 12:20 utc upload12:36
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Mirvqtscript built for all archs successfully13:00
Laneyseb128: have you managed to run autopilot?13:26
cyphermoxLaney: wow.13:36
LaneyW@W L@@K!13:36
Laneycyphermox: happy friday ;-)13:38
cyphermoxLaney: I can't look at evo for now13:38
cyphermoxnext week?13:38
Laneysure13:39
LaneyI have a package but I don't know the secrets so it could be bad bad bad13:39
cyphermoxI'm sure it's not13:39
cyphermoxthe only gotcha is the shlibs magic in debian/rules for one of them13:40
cyphermoxeverything else is pretty standard13:40
Laneyfair enough13:40
cyphermoxand afaik it's >= 3.6  << 3.8 right now13:41
LaneyI took the Debian package which was a bit different in some ways, will look it over more closely next week13:41
cyphermoxLaney: ok13:41
cyphermoxthere's shouldn't be too many differences13:41
cyphermoxand we need to close that gap anyway13:41
Laneyyeah13:41
Laneywe'll need to have changes for uoa, and some configure flags are different13:42
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seb128Laney, autopilot = fail, it was still not done with the gtk 3.6 saucy run after 2.5 hours when I went for exercice14:32
seb128it seems my nb config is not strong enough for that stuff14:32
Laneyho hum, alright, maybe we'll get proper results from didrocks then14:32
seb128yeah14:33
didrockshum, I didn't focus on that for now as you were running them, so well, not today…14:33
Laney:P14:33
seb128well, it's maybe better to not unblock things on a friday afternoon anyway14:33
seb128let's try to get results on monday14:33
seb128so Laney can unblock when he's back on tuesday14:33
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Mirvdidrocks: hi if you can please upload lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtsensors-opensource-src (adds version depends, didn't have so got erronously compiled against 5.0.1 which prevents qml-phone-shell from starting)14:36
seb128Laney, or just unblock it if you don't want to block people for 4 days, we have been baking that versions in ppas for some months, it's a .2 on a stable serie and we had autopilot success in the past14:37
didrocksMirv: ok doing14:37
seb128Laney, quite some people tested it through the GNOME3 ppa, we had errors ranking high on e.u.c before raring due to GTK (which got fixed in .1)14:37
Laneyseb128: I can do that but might not be around on Monday if the world blows up ;-)14:39
Laneymy current feeling is that it's quite alright though14:39
Mirvdidrocks: thanks, with that recompiled everything runs on device again, similar to my earlier 5.0.2 testing14:40
seb128Laney, I will be there on monday14:41
didrocksMirv: ok :)14:41
seb128Laney, proposed is not meant to block things for testing anyway14:41
Laneyah come on, let's do it!14:41
seb128Laney, I would say just unblock14:41
seb128DOIT DOIT DOIT14:41
seb128;-)14:41
LaneyPushed up to revision 169.14:42
seb128\o/14:42
* Laney hides from didrocks 14:42
didrockshem, and then, you are promoting quality :p14:44
didrocksif things break! you will fix them! ;)14:44
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LaneyI believe I've done all of the remaining transition updates for gtksourceview apart from gedit, which we presumably want to take 3.8 of14:50
Laneysomeone make jbicha do that when he shows up :P14:50
* Laney is going offline to get on a train14:59
Laneyttyl, and happy weekend :-)15:00
seb128Laney, have fun15:01
seb128didrocks, well, 3 months of testing is quite some testing, we identified a list of issues and get them fixed before upload ... and it's already in proposed with rebuilds stacked on it, either way we can't back off and need to fix it or we would just increase blockages in proposed ;-)15:02
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jasoncwarnermorning all16:10
seb128jasoncwarner, hey, how are you?16:12
jasoncwarnerhey seb128, good thanks! you?16:13
seb128I'm good thanks, it's friday afternoon! ;-)16:13
jasoncwarnerdoes france have monday off....again?16:13
seb128no16:14
seb128we are done with holidays for a while16:14
seb128we have one day in august next16:14
seb128that's the only one between now and novembre16:14
seb128(well, there is Bastille's day in July but it's a sunday this year)16:15
jasoncwarnerseb128: ironically, as I made that french joke, the US has monday off ;) just looked it up16:18
seb128lol16:19
seb128jasoncwarner, yeah, u.s and u.k ... what about Canada? ;-)16:19
seb128jasoncwarner, http://www.statutoryholidays.com/2013.php says you are without luck16:20
jasoncwarnerI dont' think canada, they had this past monday off16:20
seb128right16:20
mdeslaurwe never get days off16:21
seb128mdeslaur, move to France :p16:21
mdeslaurhttp://globalnews.ca/news/587651/canada-ranks-near-bottom-in-paid-vacation-time/16:21
mdeslaurseb128: lazy bastards :)16:21
seb128hehe16:22
seb128it's just that we are so efficient when we are at work that it wouldn't be fair for other countries if we didn't slow down sometimes :p16:22
mdeslaurROFL16:22
seb128what, don't believe me? :p16:23
seb128chrisccoulson, hey, any chance you could update that libdbusmenu MR with the small changes the indicator guys asked? ;-)16:26
chrisccoulsonseb128, oh, sorry. yeah, sure :)16:26
seb128chrisccoulson, thanks16:26
didrocksseb128: you forget one holiday on July :)16:36
didrocksseb128: the national holiday :p16:36
didrocks(shame on you)16:36
seb128didrocks, keep reading the backlog :p16:36
didrocksah ;)16:37
didrockssunday16:37
seb128;-)16:37
didrockswth?16:37
seb128yeah...16:37
seb128we should do like the uk/u.s16:37
seb128have the monday off when that happens :p16:37
didrocksyeah, then, "we" are the slackers :p16:37
Sarvattchina has the best national holidays and isn't on that list, multiple week long ones :)16:59
* didrocks waves good evening and good week-end17:03
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mptcyphermox, whatever happened to the captive portal detection? <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking#captive-portal> I see it got wontfixed for R in bug 997200.17:56
ubot2Launchpad bug 997200 in network-manager (Ubuntu Raring) "update-manager can't handle hotel web access pages" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99720017:56
cyphermoxit's not quite won't fix; it's not a bug in update-manager17:57
cyphermoxand it's something that's just... kind of contentious, so I haven't had time to get back to it to address issues and all17:58
cyphermoxbut it's already available to be enabled should you want to use it17:58
cyphermoxit's just not enabled by default because of privacy concerns, some potential issues with where we point the webpage checks to (it needs to scale for the number of users we have)17:59
cyphermoxand just how / how frequently it actually does a check which isn't optimal17:59
mptcyphermox, it's not clear to me from the bug report that the update-manager side is entirely fixed. If you choose not to sign in for whatever reason it should still fail gracefully. I was reminded of this by bug 876519, where an upgrade stalls because of one failed download.18:05
ubot2Launchpad bug 876519 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Not able to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87651918:05
cyphermoxmpt: I agree it needs to fail gracefully, but I'm not sure it's up to update-manager even. Seems to me like something in apt - and I think I remember discussing this and being told it was more or less in progress18:07
cyphermoxmpt: I think you want to talk to Brian about this18:08
attenteTrevinho, hi18:12
Trevinhoattente: hi18:12
attentethe jenkins CI for https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/unity/libreoffice-menu-highlight/+merge/160941 is failing because of a missing symbol in libunity-dev it seems18:13
attentei'm wondering what might've changed recently in unity or libunity to cause this18:17
Trevinhoattente: I've the same problem with another branch pushing to 7.0... It seems more a distro issue though...18:21
Trevinhoattente: that symbol was there even before18:21
Trevinhoattente: it seems that it's including the wrong version of libunity...18:22
Trevinhobregma: do you have any idea why that happens ^18:31
* bregma looks18:32
Trevinhobregma: Iv'e also a branch that is waiting for this18:32
bregmathat a comple fail, sounds like someone forgot to check in a change to libunity and the code is not covered by the test suite18:34
bregmawait, not libunity, I mean the 100 scopes changes18:35
Trevinhobregma: mh, you mean the libunity change for 100 scopes, right?18:35
bregmaon closer inspection, it looks the the barnch in the MP needs to be synched with trunk, since the error is in code that was removed during the 100 scopes merge18:42
bregmaor something18:42
bregmawait, never mind18:43
bregmathe problem is that the unity/7.0 branch is being build against a too-new libunity18:43
* bregma checks to see if the libunity-dev libunity-dev_6.90.2daily13.05.01.1ubuntu.unity.nextbzr224pkg0raring3 contains API-breaking changes for raring18:50
bregmaTrevinho, attente, I don't know where the libunity-dev being used by the autolanding builder for unity/7.0 is coming from, it seems to be ahead of trunk even, but it's breaking Unity builds for 13.04 ....  the QA guys who run the autolanders need to explain this one19:00
Trevinhobregma: agree19:00
attenteTrevinho, bregma, thanks19:09
mfischWhat incantation do I need to get my gschema file included in my package?19:10
attentemfisch, i think you need a _SCHEMAS primary and @GSETTINGS_RULES@ in the Makefile.am19:15
mfischI don't have a Makefile.am, this is a cmake project19:15
attentegsettings_SCHEMAS, i mean19:15
mfischI was thinking something in rules?19:15
attenteah, i'm not sure about cmake19:16
mfischor should I manually add it to install?19:16
mfischI'm also not sure about cmake?19:16
mfisch;)19:16
mfischI would generally do all this in maintainer scripts but that is my background for what we do on my team in PES19:16
attentemfisch, i see this in unity's CMakeLists.txt: SET (UNITY_SCHEMAS "com.canonical.Unity.gschema.xml")19:17
mfischlet me pull the source for that19:17
mfischthanks19:17
attentei'm not sure if that's helpful though19:17
mfischI knew unity-greeter used them but its not cmake iirc19:17
mfischattente: if that's all this is (what I see in cmakelists) I can do this in a .install file19:19
attentemfisch, yeah, it seems to be doing other things with the UNITY_SCHEMAS variable in there19:21
mfischyeah it's compiling and validating it too19:21
mfischI thought there might be a dh helper19:24
mfischattente: the unity code seems to work okay19:31
mfischso far19:31
mfischI made it a bit less complex, and thanks for the pointer19:31
attentemfisch, awesome :)19:37
mfischI'm probably the only one that still cares, but hud has a library called UseGSettings that is helpeful19:55
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jbichaI think we must have gedit-plugins 3.8 if we have gedit 3.8 because it was ported to python322:05

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