[06:06] <Kilos> cremora minora
[06:36] <magespawn> good morning all
[06:55] <superfly> morning ki<tab>, magespawn, Vince-0
[06:58] <magespawn> hey superfly, Kilos dropped out, eskom i think
[07:01] <trender> yo kilos
[07:01] <trender> wat maake jy met daai skaap
[07:01] <trender> maak
[07:58] <charl> good morning
[07:59] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za charl 
[07:59] <magespawn> hey charl how goes it?
[07:59] <charl> hi Kilos 
[07:59] <charl> hi magespawn 
[07:59] <charl> it's going well
[07:59] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[07:59] <magespawn> morning trender
[07:59] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[07:59] <charl> i went to maastricht yesterday
[07:59] <trender> mornin
[08:00] <charl> hi trender 
[08:00] <magespawn> charl whats that?
[08:00] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[08:00] <charl> magespawn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maastricht
[08:01] <charl> ho Trixar_za 
[08:01] <charl> *hi
[08:01] <Trixar_za> Hey charl
[08:01] <Trixar_za> I didn't even notice I disconnected
[08:02] <Trixar_za> Trying to 'win' a worst visual novel challenge :P
[08:02] <charl> it's along the "maasrivier" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meuse_(river)
[08:02] <charl> dirty river with muddy water
[08:03] <magespawn> been around awhile
[08:03] <charl> Trixar_za: what is that? a japanese game?
[08:03] <charl> bbl
[08:04] <Trixar_za> Nah, using Ren'py. These days it's mostly American girls that make them, but I've always wanted to make one :P
[08:04] <Trixar_za> http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21444
[08:05] <Trixar_za> It's to help first time creators to lose their virginity in game creation
[08:07] <Trixar_za> I still can't get over the fact that somebody made a love story about a pillow
[08:07] <Trixar_za> Which is why mine will feature a transgendered toilet brush
[08:10] <magespawn> okay i did not know toilet brushs had any gender to trans, one learns everyday
[08:12] <Trixar_za> She's pretty open about it. She's currently auditioning for the reboot of Twilight considering she has more talent than Kristen Steward and way more sex appeal
[08:15] <magespawn> lol
[08:37] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[09:01] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[09:02] <Cantide> hello :)
[09:02] <Cantide> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36318710/P1010001.JPG new package from Korea
[09:03] <charl> Trix[a]r_za: regarding the pillow, is that about a dakimakura?
[09:03] <Kilos> is that all yummy stuff Cantide ?
[09:04] <Cantide> yes, yes it is '-'
[09:04] <Cantide> i shall devour it later :)
[09:04] <Kilos> lol
[09:04] <Kilos> you gonna be a fat geek
[09:04] <Cantide> hahaha
[09:04] <Cantide> i spent 1 hour at the gym and 15 minutes cycling this morning
[09:04] <Cantide> i don't think i'm fat :)
[09:05] <Kilos> not yet
[09:05] <charl> Cantide: what is inside the lacoste package
[09:05] <Cantide> a shirt, a letter, and another small thing which i have not yet opened
[09:05] <Cantide> i think it's cologne
[09:06] <Cantide> t.. the letter is actually a book - 20? no, 30 pages?
[09:06] <Cantide> i will have to read it later
[09:07] <charl> Trix[a]r_za: looking at ren'py - very interesting
[09:08] <charl> Cantide: love letter? :)
[09:08] <Cantide> looks like a bit of a love / hate letter :D
[09:08] <Cantide> i'll read it with caution :p
[09:08] <charl> :S
[09:09] <charl> Cantide: you still moving to s.korea?
[09:09] <Cantide> charl, looks like it, yes
[09:09] <Cantide> i've the choice to go in the next two weeks, or in September
[09:09] <Cantide> 2 weeks is too soon for me - i still need to sort some things out
[09:10] <Cantide> so it looks like i'll go in August / September
[09:10] <charl> sounds like fun
[09:10] <charl> how is korea regarding long term residence / work visas
[09:10] <charl> i hear japan is extremely strict in that regard
[09:11] <Cantide> yeah, Korea is, too
[09:11] <Cantide> my visa will only be valid for a year
[09:11] <Cantide> but i hear it's easy to extend once you're in
[09:12] <Cantide> as for residence, i'm not too sure
[09:12] <Cantide> there is a citizenship test that can be taken after 5 years, but i doubt it's easy
[09:12] <Cantide> easiest way - get married :p
[09:12] <charl> yeah, in europe our immigration policites are arguably too liberal
[09:13] <Cantide> well, i will try my best '-'
[09:13] <charl> it depends on the way you look at it, immigration is not a bad thing, but when foreigners stream into your country and don't want to integrate it becomes a huge problem
[09:13] <charl> look at sweden now
[09:14] <Cantide> yeah, we have that problem here in South Africa now
[09:14] <charl> not sure if you hear about this things down south but stockholm is in flames
[09:14] <Cantide> hence the xenophobic violence
[09:14] <Cantide> oh, i saw news about protests there just the other day
[09:14] <Cantide> but yeah, we don't hear much about it
[09:14] <charl> the problem is, this is fuelling the right wing, and now you get a neo-nazi problem again
[09:15] <charl> immigration isn't bad but it needs to be controlled
[09:15] <Cantide> i don't particularly like immigration too much
[09:16] <Cantide> i don't want to influence their people / culture / society
[09:16] <charl> i don't know, i think there is a lot we can learn from each other
[09:16] <charl> i just don't think multiculturalism really works inside one country
[09:17] <Cantide> it's okay here in South Africa.. to an extent
[09:17] <Cantide> depending on the individuals
[09:18] <charl> i don't know, i hear mixed reports
[09:18] <Cantide> in general it's not working too well
[09:19] <Cantide> but i think our government likes it that way
[09:19] <Cantide> so they can keep votes :p
[09:19] <charl> that's probably true, play all parties off against each other
[09:19] <charl> classical political strategy, it's always "those people"
[09:19] <magespawn> rule by division and lack of education
[09:19] <charl> that "those other people" problem is common all around the world
[09:19] <Cantide> yup
[09:19] <magespawn> misinformation
[09:20] <charl> tell people what they want to hear, and give them an enemy
[09:23] <magespawn> i favour the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy approach to politics abd politicians
[09:30] <charl> magespawn: the hitchhikers films were so confusing and weird i think it looks more realistic than actual politics
[09:43] <charl> i actually missed out on it this year but next year i want to go to leiden for the japanmarkt: http://www.figure.fm/en/post/48439/Japanmarkt+Leiden+The+Netherlands+19+05+2013.html
[09:53] <charl> hi psyatw 
[09:54] <psyatw> hi charl
[09:56] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[10:05] <magespawn> charl i have not watched the films, but was refering to way they will not allow anyone who wants to rule the galaxy to do it, on ly those who do not want to rule are allowed to
[10:12] <charl> magespawn: that sounds like an excellent principle
[10:21] <Squirm> oh sweet, sweet linux
[10:21] <Squirm> how I have missed you
[10:21] <Squirm> :P
[10:21] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[10:22] <Squirm> hi Kilos 
[10:38] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[10:39] <psyatw> hi Squirm
[10:39] <psyatw> hi magespawn
[10:40] <Kilos> hi gwood 
[10:43] <magespawn> hi psyatw
[11:21] <charl> Squirm: ???
[12:03] <magespawn> right am now back on kubuntu fully up to date
[12:04] <superfly> :-)
[12:08] <magespawn> got some awesome themes and desktops
[12:37] <Kilos> you using kubuntu-full magespawn ?
[12:37] <magespawn> yup
[12:37] <Kilos> bit slower here but got so much more in it
[12:38] <magespawn> i also downloaded debian 7, so i will give that a look later
[12:38] <Kilos> lol
[12:38] <magespawn> boot up is slower but this time i have encrypted my drive so expected that
[12:38] <Kilos> ah
[12:39] <magespawn> other tahn that i turn all the fancy effects of anyway, or the pc slow down too much
[12:39] <magespawn> than
[12:39] <Kilos> amazing how much more there is from kubuntu to kubuntu-full hey?
[12:39] <magespawn> yup
[12:39] <Kilos> but i like
[12:40] <magespawn> just have to go and get wireless drivers then i am sorted
[12:44] <magespawn> i do not seem to have multiple desktops any more
[12:44] <superfly> eh?
[12:45] <magespawn> usually there was a desktop switcher by the k launcher
[12:46] <superfly> oh, well, just add it if it aint there, it's a widget
[12:49] <magespawn> what is it called?
[13:06] <Kilos> http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch02s02.html
[13:06] <Kilos> desktop pager?
[13:07] <Kilos> somewhere i saw add widgets thing too
[13:07] <Kilos> need to go to kde
[13:07] <Kilos> wbb
[13:11] <Kilos> magespawn: right click bottom panel
[13:12] <Kilos> panel options - add widget
[13:12] <magespawn> and then?
[13:12] <magespawn> what widget?
[13:12] <Kilos> isnt the switcher there
[13:12] <magespawn> no
[13:13] <Kilos> whew
[13:14] <Kilos> what is pager
[13:14] <Kilos> im bang to click anything , dont wanna change mine
[13:14] <magespawn> where is system settings do set how many desktops yo uhave?
[13:15] <Kilos> in that guide they talk about a desktop pager and all i see in the widgets is pager
[13:15] <magespawn> i have neither
[13:15] <Kilos> normally you just right click on that little switcher block and add
[13:16] <Kilos> i dunno if its in system settings
[13:16] <Kilos> oh my
[13:16] <Kilos> 13.03 hey?
[13:19] <Kilos> do you understand this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-settings/+changelog
[13:20] <magespawn> not really
[13:21] <Kilos> hehe
[13:22] <Kilos> me too
[13:23] <Kilos> i wonder why it aint there by default
[13:25] <Kilos> Maaz: where is the desktop pager in kubuntu 13.04
[13:25] <Maaz> Kilos: Erk, dunno
[13:25] <Kilos> google fool bot
[13:25] <Kilos> google where is the desktop pager in kubuntu 13.04
[13:25] <Kilos> ai!
[13:25] <Kilos> Maaz:  google where is the desktop pager in kubuntu 13.04
[13:25] <Maaz> Kilos: "Change log : “kubuntu-settings” package : Ubuntu - Launchpad" https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-settings/+changelog :: "Change log : “kubuntu-settings” source package : Raring (13.04 ..." https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/kubuntu-settings/+changelog :: "plasma-desktop crashes repeatedly - Bugs - Launchpad"
[13:25] <Maaz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173349 :: "1:13.04ubuntu5 : “kubuntu-settings” package : Ubuntu - Launchpa…
[13:26] <Kilos> oh my
[13:26] <Kilos> wait for the fly or pro magespawn 
[13:26]  * Kilos dunno
[13:32] <magespawn> grrr
[13:50] <Kilos> lol what?
[13:50] <Kilos> im glad to see im not the only one thats likes more than one workspace
[13:54] <magespawn> small screen
[14:04] <magespawn> Kilos: system settings>workspace behavior>virtual desktops
[14:05] <Kilos> aha well done
[14:05] <Kilos> remember that fo when i go off 12.l04
[14:07] <magespawn> i went and asked in the #kubuntu channel
[14:27] <Kilos> good move
[14:28] <Kilos> did you tell them our kde boffs are very busy
[14:28] <Kilos> hehe
[14:31] <magespawn> very full channel there
[14:31] <magespawn> 282
[14:40] <magespawn> brb
[14:50] <Kilos> hmm... must be a 13.04 thing to remove that as a default goodie
[14:50] <Kilos> i remember some noob the other day with the same thing in unity
[14:52] <magespawn> back
[14:52] <magespawn> yes it looks like defaults to one now
[14:54] <Kilos> i wonder what is the aim in doing that
[14:54] <Kilos> it makes it harder for noobs
[14:55] <magespawn> maybe they expect most noobs to only want one
[14:56] <Kilos> yeah well ex winsucks peeps dont know the diffs
[14:56] <magespawn> so maybe the thinking is to not confuse those people
[14:57] <Kilos> i dunno really
[14:58] <Kilos> i would display the great diffs openly
[14:58] <Kilos> and brag about them not hide them
[15:00] <magespawn> ahh well different strokes i suppose
[15:05] <Kilos> there must be some reasoning behind it
[15:05] <Kilos> multiple workspaces was the first thing that attracted me
[15:06] <Kilos> even tara with years of sucks experience said wow this is cool
[15:07] <Kilos> beacause peeps that really work a machine have so much stuff minimised they get lost
[15:07] <Kilos> with more workspaces you can spread it all out
[15:10] <Kilos> wbb
[15:10] <magespawn> yup cool going to get fish 
[16:13] <Kilos> lo Vince-0 
[16:14] <Kilos> hi tumbleweed you still going strong?
[16:16] <Vince-0> hii
[16:21] <Kilos> hi georgelappies 
[16:21] <georgelappies> hi Kilos, how are you doing?
[16:22] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[16:25] <georgelappies> good thanks, no complaints :)
[17:00] <Kilos> yo somaunn smile4ever 
[17:01] <smile4ever> Hi Kilos :)
[17:58] <Kilos> travelling tomorrow morning superfly ?
[18:01] <superfly> yes
[18:06] <nlsthzn> so is the whole of SA enjoying their Friday to much to be on-line or something :p ?
[18:16] <superfly> nlsthzn: I'm busy packing
[18:17] <nlsthzn> superfly: where are we going?
[18:30] <nlsthzn> superfly: less packing more talking "/
[18:31] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[18:32] <Kilos> travel safe superfly 
[18:32] <Kilos> i go sleep now
[18:32] <nlsthzn> night uncle Kilos:
[18:32] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:33] <smile4ever> bye, good night :)
[18:34] <nlsthzn> bbl
[20:02] <Cantide> sleep time 'o'
[20:02] <Cantide> good night!