[00:03] <cxipher> anyone know the sudo get ampache terminal code
[00:03] <jrib> cxipher: what?
[00:03] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> any reason this wouldnt work for 13.04? http://www.comodo.com/home/internet-security/antivirus-for-linux.php
[00:03] <jrib> !virus | Roy_Ubuntu_13-04
[00:04] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> hey guys if im getting permission denied on ./command what file permision should i use
[00:04] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> like 755?
[00:04] <[FreeBSD]> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: chmod +x
[00:04] <[FreeBSD]> try that
[00:04] <jrib> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: depends on what file has permission denied... give more details.
[00:04] <nezzario> u+x if you want to be specific
[00:04] <[FreeBSD]> or paste output of ls -l on it
[00:04] <cxipher> top install ampache (sp)
[00:04] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i tried chmod +x
[00:04] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> no work
[00:04] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> [04:00:00] couldn't open "/home/smokeyspark/EGGDROP/scripts/t2/t2.hst.tmp": permission denied
[00:04] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]>     while executing
[00:04] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> "open $t2(sfpath)t2.hst.tmp w"
[00:04] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]>     (procedure "TSavHist" line 77)
[00:04] <FloodBot1> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:05] <jrib> cxipher: you really mean "ampache" and not "apache" (the web server)?
[00:08] <cxipher>  found it in software manager
[00:08] <volitek> [FreeBSD]: it's happened again, this time I'm ssh'd in. Xorg is using 100% of the cpu
[00:08] <[FreeBSD]> volitek: pretty hard to tell
[00:09] <[FreeBSD]> volitek: are you using nvidia?
[00:09] <volitek> no, intel
[00:11] <volitek> http://pastebin.com/ycuJLgQ0
[00:11] <volitek> thats what that command outputed
[00:12] <[FreeBSD]> looks like something to do with the intel graphics idk
[00:12] <volitek> ah i havent dist-upgraded in a while, ill try that
[00:13] <[FreeBSD]> yeah try updating everything first
[00:13] <volitek> i forgot about dist-upgrade rather than upgrade ha
[00:14] <[FreeBSD]> id do it from ssh and logout of X too
[00:14] <volitek> how do I log out from X in ssh?
[00:15] <[FreeBSD]> volitek: killall X might work
[00:16] <dr_willis_> sudo service lightdm stop
[00:16] <dr_willis_> is commonly used
[00:16] <[FreeBSD]> or stopiing the login manager
[00:16] <[FreeBSD]> yeah
[00:17] <[FreeBSD]> you might be ok leaving it running but i wouldnt risk a freeze while upgrading
[00:17] <snkcld2> on 13.04 kvm is telling me "Could not initialize SDL(No available video device) - exiting". i just installed ubuntu, and have not removed any packages...
[00:17] <cxipher> 12.04 saying the requested URL /phpmyadmin/ was not found on this server.
[00:18] <cxipher> trying to install phpmyadmin for ampache audio service
[00:19] <betrayd> srkclc2 think you have to install restricted codecs
[00:20] <Arpad2> hi
[00:20] <cxipher> hi
[00:21] <Arpad2> is multicolour keyboard illumination supported in linux?
[00:21] <[FreeBSD]> Arpad2: you might need a specific keyboard driver / program
[00:22] <Arpad2> I have a laptop
[00:23] <Arpad2> only blue colour works
[00:23] <az4z3l> Arpad2: you definitely need a driver for it to work properly since it would be controlled through a program on the OS.
[00:24] <az4z3l> Arpad2: that driver likely does not exist on Ubuntu, though you might be able to find it somewhere.
[00:24] <Arpad2> so, its not ubuntu related?
[00:25] <Arpad2> unfortunately it also does not exist on the manufacturer's website
[00:25] <Arpad2> its a Clevo p170em
[00:27] <cxipher> anyone know how to get phpmyadmin set up on ubuntu
[00:30] <sere> The following packages have been kept back   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[00:31] <sere> on 13.4 with kernel 3.8.0.20 i386
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> sere, Try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in the terminal.
[00:34] <sere> wilee-nilee: ahh perfect.. ty )
[00:37] <zilla> hi
[00:38] <zilla> how can i use rsync without running into an infinite loop? im trying to back up / to my usb device /media/x
[00:38] <ShayGuy> I had to reboot after my problem earlier today, and now my sound doesn't work at all. Chrome, mplayer, aplay, nothing.
[00:38] <ShayGuy> And Googling 'ubuntu troubleshoot sound' just makes things more confusing -- for instance, trying to open alsamixer just yields "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory".
[00:39] <ShayGuy> My volume isn't muted, either -- somehow it got set to MAXIMUM in the reboot.
[00:39] <zilla> lol
[00:39] <zilla> pretty sure all the smart people have moved on from ubuntu
[00:40] <zilla> haven't seen a helpful response in this channel in ages
[00:40] <ShayGuy> You have a better...
[00:40] <ShayGuy> ...idea. Never mind.
[00:40] <rui_> Oi boa noite !
[00:40] <rui_> a todos
[00:41] <rui_> em inglês ?
[00:41] <rui_> ou português Brasileiro ?
[00:42] <rui_> Ivan som esta baixo
[00:45] <nube> hello
[00:46] <nube> I have made an ubuntu 13.04 live usb, but when I boot from the integritiy check says "errors found in 1 file"
[00:46] <betrayd> they're probably just having dinner
[00:46] <nube> if I burn to DVD instead I get no errors
[00:46] <nube> but I want to install to a computer with no dvd drive
[00:46] <nube> any ideas?
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> dosent say what file eh?
[00:47] <nube> unfortunately it doesn't
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> does the md5sum of the iso file check out?
[00:47] <nube> yep
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> thats weird. unless theres some sort of read error going on  - with the usb
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> how did you make the usb?
[00:48] <nube> I also tried different usb ports. I made the usb with http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[00:48] <nube> in windows
[00:49] <nube> I am running ubuntu now on my desktop, maybe I should try to make the usb again from here
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> nube:  you could try some of the tools at the pendrivelinux site.  they have some that use grub2 to boot  the iso file straight from usb. or can image the iso straight to usb.
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> you can use 'dd' to image the iso straight to usb also thats the most direct way.
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> or you could just see if it installs properly. ;)
[00:51] <nube> ok
[00:52] <cxipher> http://pastebin.com/rA13GpNz
[00:53] <cxipher> I know I'm in the right directory
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> ls -l shows the file ?
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> tab completion to complete its name?
[00:55] <qin> cxipher: Permissions?
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> CaSe Of The FileName Is CorReCt?
[00:56] <cxipher> http://pastebin.com/6z2qQ12u
[00:57] <cxipher> zomgz nm
[00:57] <cxipher> i see it
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> dir?    ;)  old habbits..
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> typeo? extra space in the name??  Aliens?
[00:58] <qin> /7u7/7u21
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> tab completion - is a great invention. ;)
[00:59] <hulu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1179367
[01:00] <hulu> who can help me
[01:01] <cxipher> ive only been on linux 3 days or so now
[01:01] <Fezzler> I use the Lightweight Desktop Environment.  Upgrading my Ubuntu.  Will it upgrade to that Environment?
[01:02] <Dr_Willis>  type part of a file name then  hit   <tab> cxipher   it shold fill in the rest.. tab works with a lot of cli commands to fill in options and other extra info also
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> Fezzler:  you mean upgrade to the next release? it will upgrade all packages to those in the next release. so yes.
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> assuming there are updated packates for whatever you are refering to in the next release
[01:02] <qin> cxipher: you would want to not download debs, and use apt or synaptic instead...
[01:03] <Fezzler> Dr_Willis> Yes.  I think last time I used this PC I was on Ubuntu 11x and switched to LDE.
[01:03] <swiss> e/win 92
[01:03] <swiss> derp
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> Fezzler:  lde or lxde ?
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> !lxde
[01:04] <cxipher> qin: thanks installing now
[01:04] <Fezzler> Dr_Willis> LDE
[01:04] <cxipher> Dr_Willis: thanks ill try to remember that
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive heard of  LDE then.. i use lxde all the time
[01:04] <cxipher> daskdt13
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> !info lde
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> cxipher:  i seem to hit tab more then most any other key on my keyboard. ;0
[01:05] <qin> cxipher: Why do you install java from source, btw?
[01:05] <Fezzler> Dr_Willis> 2296 files to go!
[01:05] <cxipher> qin: because i have no idea what i'm doing and it was the only way i found it
[01:05] <cxipher> tryng to get java working in chrome
[01:05] <qin> cxipher: hahaha
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> !java | cxipher
[01:05] <qin> !java | cxipher
[01:06] <cxipher> oh wow
[01:07] <cxipher> thanks
[01:07] <qin> cxipher: in basics, you just wrecked (kind off) your system.
[01:07] <cxipher> lovely
[01:07] <cxipher> im sure i
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> cxipher:  also checking askubuntu..com will normally show better/easier/faster ways to do most anythin gyou will want to do.
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> and dont forget the lovely ubuntu manual.
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[01:09] <cxipher> qin:any way to unwreck or does it not really matter
[01:09] <Fezzler> Dr_Willis> Ooop. It is lxde
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> Fezzler:  l)
[01:10] <Fezzler> Dr_Willis> I guess the graphic of the bird is an "X"
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> lxde is also know n as 'lubuntu'    to include all the fancy ubuntu tweaks and stuff.
[01:10] <Fezzler> Dr_Willis> That's it.
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> as loing as you got the lubuntu-desktop package installed it should update to the full lubuntu system with all of lxde
[01:11] <qin> cxipher: If, jre you installed have uninstall script, just execute it and install supported package. Or just try to use synaptic (package manager) to correct problem.
[01:11] <qin> !source | cxipher
[01:11] <Fezzler> Dr_Willis> My old pc was struggling with Unity so I switched to lxde
[01:11] <qin> !synaptic
[01:11] <uwc> Hello. What happened to Nautilus and how can I fix it?
[01:12] <jubacca> hello, I was wondering how I could find a file on the windows side of my dual boot using the ubuntu terminal.
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> uwc:  nothing has happened to it...
[01:12] <Fezzler> Dr_Willis> Thank you.  lxde if just fine for my needs
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> uwc:  unless you want to give us  more details.
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> Fezzler:  yes. it works well on my netbooks and even my hight end systems.. its lacking a few features.. but works well
[01:12] <uwc> Dr_Willis: The search no longer works in a sane manner and the tree view is gone
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> tree view - was removed by the gnome devs i recall.  I think i saw some forked nautilus/discussion of that on either the omgubuntu or webupd8 blog site.
[01:13] <uwc> jubacca: You will have to mount the partition first, see the man page for 'mount'. You can do this from the file manager if you prefer.
[01:13] <Fezzler> Dr_Willis> What features do you miss?
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> that readded the tree and some other features
[01:13] <qin> cxipher: Some dependencies might be broken, so you would want to have offical jre from repositories, but it may also work.
[01:14] <uwc> Dr_Willis: If i replace the file manager, will the ubuntuone plugin still function?
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> Fezzler:  i seem to recall a few little things here and there. plus i tend to use the 'rox'-filer' manager  for my low end machines. it has a lot of neat features that  pcmanfm  is lacking
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> uwc:  no idea. I dont use the fork. I imagine it should work
[01:15] <jubacca> already is mounted I'm pretty sure. Same hard drive, and ubuntu runs off of wubi.
[01:16] <uwc> jubacca: type 'cat /proc/mount' or 'mount' on its own to see a list of FS mounts, You can find the partition from there. Except I know knothing about wubi. Wubi might be different.
[01:16] <cxipher> qin: i think you're right i tried http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/icedtea6-plugin and got The package you requested will install shortly. but nothing happens
[01:18] <uwc> Dr_Willis: For me the biggest problem is the search functionalilty, not the tree. I understand that this doesn't change your answer. Just commenting that the search is now well broken.
[01:19] <Inv1s1ble> So I'm just making an internal package for my company and I'm finding it hard to find examples of creating users/setting permissions within my deb package. I realize I need to do this in the postinst script, but I can seem to find any concrete examples of this
[01:19] <Inv1s1ble> what should I be googleing for?
[01:20] <uwc> jubacca: However if you can see the drive from within ubuntu's file manager, then it is mounted and you will be able to access it . It is probably mounted with FUSE but in any case, cat /proc/mount will show it
[01:20] <uwc> jubacca: Sorry /cat/proc/mounts (I missed the plural)
[01:21] <jubacca> uwc, that works much better
[01:21] <jubacca> no idea what the things mean though...
[01:22] <uwc> jubacca: in proc/mounts the second column will be the location
[01:23] <jubacca> uwc, but how does this help me find a file in the windows partition?
[01:23] <uwc> jubacca: if you cd to that folder in the terminal you will find the mounted drive
[01:24] <uwc> jubacca: for example it probably says gvfs-fuse /run/user/jubacca/,,,,    so go there
[01:26] <sonofzeus> I've read somewhere that I can find conf files in the home directory but my home dir has only my_username dir and nothing else.
[01:28] <betrayd> sonofzeus they might begin with a dot, so type . then hit tab
[01:28] <sonofzeus> whatwhat does tab do?
[01:28] <betrayd> inside your user dir that is
[01:29] <betrayd> its called tab-completion like nick completion in irc
[01:29] <cxipher> yes!
[01:29] <cxipher> i got phpmyadmin running :)
[01:29] <betrayd> cxipher congrats~ on your own?
[01:29] <sonofzeus> Are those files hidden?
[01:30] <cxipher> yes on my own (and web tuts)
[01:30] <SonikkuAmerica> sonofzeus: You could do something like [ ls ~ | grep .conf ]
[01:30] <betrayd> sonofzeus not 'hidden' in the true sense of the word but yeah you have to check 'show hidden' in most GUI file managers
[01:30] <Just_Me> a quick question: im trying to install latest nvidia driver whic ive downloaded from their site but it wont allow me to install b/c xserver is running so i rebooted to recovery and drop to root, ran the install again then it says /tmp is not mounted so it wont install. how do i mount /tmp ? thanks :)
[01:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Just_Me: What you could've done is booted as normal, logged in from a tty, [ sudo stop lightdm ] and then ran the script
[01:32] <betrayd> not boot into recovery mode, stuff is protected
[01:33] <pingUone> what package has all your java (web browsing) bullshit? apt-cache search dumps assloads of crap.
[01:33] <betrayd> thats java alright
[01:34] <pingUone> java is crap
[01:34] <betrayd> !java
[01:34] <pingUone> betrayd TY!
[01:35] <SonikkuAmerica> You can get Oracle Java 7 via PPA these days
[01:35] <SonikkuAmerica> works like flashplugin-installer does
[01:35] <betrayd> you're welcome punUone
[01:35] <betrayd> phainl
[01:45] <rmobenchain> hello veryone
[01:45] <rmobenchain> am needing some help with a recent ubuntu install
[01:46] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | rmobenchain, can we have these
[01:47] <rmobenchain> I have a problem with out of scan range upon bootup
[01:47] <rmobenchain> oops
[01:48] <Intelligitimate> I need help. I can't get Boot-Repair Disk to run. I but from a USB from unetbootin, get the screen, and select it from the menu. Then it just goes black. I'm using a Windows 8 pre-installed machine.
[01:48] <Intelligitimate> I can't get back to my Linux Mint 14 Partition.
[01:48] <rmobenchain> I have an out of scan range message upon bootup up after BIOS splash screen.  I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and am currently using the LIVE CD disk to access the internet,
[01:48] <Intelligitimate> It only boots Windows 8 now.
[01:50] <BlackDalek> Does anyone here know the code to type into LibreOffice Find & Replace box to replace a specific character with a new line character?
[01:50] <sere> Intelligitimate:  using the windows bootloader?
[01:51] <Intelligitimate> sere: The Windows Bootloader give me an error message. I'm trying to repair Grub at the moment. It won't even let me boot to a live CD anymore. And I checked the USB stick, it's fine.
[01:54] <sere> Intelligitimate:  can you try the usb disk on another system or through a virtual machine.
[01:56] <rmobenchain> !details
[01:57] <Intelligitimate> sere: I tried it on another machine. It works. Something is happening that prevents it from loading on the Windows 8 machine.
[01:58] <rmobenchain> did i miss a response concerning my query?
[01:59] <blebaford> clear
[01:59] <blebaford> ls
[02:00] <blebaford> oops
[02:00] <SonikkuAmerica> blebaford: Try your terminal window... typing terminal commands in here is like saying xyzzy
[02:00] <sere> Intelligitimate: you can add mint to the windows bootloader and from there boot/repair the grub... but it would be alot easier to just boot a usb hdd
[02:00] <blebaford> yeah I know lol that was instinct
[02:01] <croniksoft> Hello everyone
[02:01] <WeThePeople> sere, what the prob?
[02:02] <betrayd> BlackDalek maybe there is a 'show tabs/spaces' and then you can copy/paste a carriage return, thats how it was done in word
[02:03] <blebaford> I was wondering if there are any easy to use music players that don't create their own databases like Banshee does. Seems redundant if all the information needed can be contained in the filesystem.
[02:03] <sere> WeThePeople: Intelligitimate is trying to repair a a multiboot grub but cant seem to boot a usb anymore.
[02:03] <WeThePeople> sere, what are the OSes
[02:04] <sere> Intelligitimate: did you check and see if the boot order changed :x
[02:04] <rmobenchain> upon bootup BIOS splash screen I get an "Out of Scan Range" message.  I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and have a NVIDIA graphics card
[02:04] <sere> WeThePeople: windows 8 and mint
[02:04] <betrayd> blebaford i am a dinosaur in that respect, xmms is one or cplay on the commandline
[02:04] <WeThePeople> sere, is secure boot off and csm enabled?
[02:04] <WeThePeople> and fast boot
[02:04] <Intelligitimate> sere: boot order is the same. USB won't load Boot-Repair Disk or another Linux Mint. I don't know how to make the Windows Boot Loader recognize Linux Minut.
[02:05] <WeThePeople> its might be cms
[02:06] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, download and use a cd to run boot repair thats what i did
[02:07] <WeThePeople> does Mint have a efi dir. in the iso
[02:07] <sere> the people have spokin!
[02:07] <sere> WeThePeople: thanks WeThePeople :)
[02:08] <WeThePeople> idk
[02:08] <WeThePeople> just trying to help
[02:08] <FearJesus> did you know god will send you to hell if you dont believe in him!
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | FearJesus
[02:09] <nezzario> Gah
[02:09] <nezzario> How would I go about doing a netinstall from a wifi adapter?
[02:09] <blebaford> betrayd: looks like xmms is discontinued. I guess that's what you meant by dinosaur. I was thinking of checking out cmus or moc but I
[02:09] <sere> WeThePeople: you seem like you know what your talking about.. i was running out of options. :)
[02:09] <FearJesus> 8 But the cowardly, unbelieving,[a] abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
[02:09] <blebaford> betrayd: .... but I don't want learning to use those to be a project.
[02:09] <OerHeks> FearJesus, wrong channel, buddy
[02:09] <nezzario> I can't get decent enough connection to do a normal netinstall over 10/100
[02:10] <WeThePeople> sere, i did a win8 12.04.2 both x64 install
[02:10] <WeThePeople> fairly easy
[02:10] <betrayd> blebaford theres a PPA for xmms and 0 learning curve if you've used old skool winamp
[02:10] <nezzario> I have the 10/100 connected to a ddwrt that's acting as an ap client and it's super unstable
[02:10] <nezzario> keeps hanging when downloading ..
[02:11] <FearJesus> #mypreching
[02:11] <SonikkuAmerica> OerHeks: (Not to mention there are huge flaws in his argument... it's so miserably incomplete it's self-defeating :P)
[02:11] <sere> WeThePeople: ahh well thank again...hopefully he gets it fixed :)
[02:11] <sere> goodnight all
[02:11] <rmobenchain> guess no help to be had here
[02:12] <matheus> hi, i bought the first season of seinfeld but VLC can't read de disc. My friend has a macpro and is working well on his computers. I don't know what to do. I already installed the ubuntu restricted extras
[02:12] <sere> matheus: check your mount points
[02:12] <sere> quit
[02:12] <OerHeks> matheus, with restricted extra's comes a css script, did you do that part ?
[02:13] <WeThePeople> rmobenchain, what distro
[02:13] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[02:13] <matheus> OerHeks: no
[02:13] <rmobenchain> wethepeople: I'm a newb, what is distro?
[02:13] <OerHeks> matheus, restart VLC after that and enjoy
[02:13] <matheus> OerHeks: thanks
[02:14] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: I can't get Boot Repair-Disk to run. It goes to the grub-like screen, I select it, and then it just goes black. USB works on another computer.
[02:14] <WeThePeople> rmobenchain, in the terminal type without the quotes "lsb_release -a"
[02:15] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, can you get to the bios
[02:15] <rmobenchain> wethepeople: I'm using the LIVE CD to access the internet and such, is there a way to start up a teminal w/o it being full screen?  I used terminal but couldn't exit it
[02:15] <rmobenchain> ...last night
[02:16] <Alexashka> question: what are you folks hosting your websites with very low traffic on?
[02:16] <WeThePeople> rmobenchain, yes right click and select the right option
[02:16] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: Yes. It is one of those UEFI bios things. Secure Boot is disabled.
[02:16] <BillyZane> can anyone recommend me a very inexpensive laptop that's ubuntu compatible?
[02:17] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, is compatability mode enabled and fast boot turned off
[02:17] <OerHeks> !hcl | BillyZane
[02:18] <BillyZane> thank you OerHeks
[02:18] <WeThePeople> billyzane, asus
[02:18] <rmobenchain> wethepeople:  did as you asked.  here it is:No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS Release:	12.04 Codename:	precise
[02:19] <rmobenchain> figured out how to access a small terminal page btw :)
[02:19] <BillyZane> WeThePeople: i hear they are a good brand for ubuntu. do they make any laptops around $400 that would be compatible?
[02:19] <WeThePeople> billyzane, yes look online
[02:19] <SonikkuAmerica> !google
[02:19] <BillyZane> ok
[02:19] <techtronic> hey folks, wonder if some one might be able to help, iptables isnt writing to a log file on my vps, i can only show what iptables is doing if i run dmesg
[02:19] <SonikkuAmerica> (I feel that factoid is a bit harsh)
[02:20] <BillyZane> i know how to google it. i've been googling it. i've checked forums and discussion boards. i just wanted someone's personal take on it from here
[02:20] <nezzario> sigh, this is annoying
[02:21] <SonikkuAmerica> !poll | BillyZane, well, we typically discourage asking about that here
[02:21] <SonikkuAmerica> BillyZane: ^ The same goes for hardware.
[02:21] <WeThePeople> rmobenchain, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/20328
[02:21] <cxipher> annd i broke it
[02:21] <nezzario> i have a USB flash drive, a working pxeboot, a crappy 10/100 connection, a reliable wireless usb connection, no cd-rom and no usb boot
[02:21] <nezzario> how can i make this work?
[02:22] <kingnick42> got a problem with my printer. Its a Brother Hl240. Printing worked fine in Linux Mint 14. Changed to Ubuntu 13.04, and it didn't recognise the printer to start with. Went thought the 'add printer' thing, and it set up fine. Went to print a doc, and it just kept throwing out blank pages till I switched the printer off.
[02:22] <nezzario> hehehehe sorry that's always fun
[02:22] <SonikkuAmerica> kingnick42: HL-2040?
[02:23] <nezzario> mmkay
[02:23] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, you might need to disable ahci to enable compatabilty mode
[02:23] <rmobenchain> dpkg: error: conflicting actions -e (--control) and -r (--remove)  Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*]; Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management; Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values; Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options; Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;  Options marked [*] produce a lot of output - pipe it 
[02:23] <nezzario> This may sound insane.. technically I should be able to install ubuntu from windows, onto this disk, right?
[02:24] <nezzario> using vmware or ms virtual pc
[02:24] <cxipher> if you partition
[02:24] <cxipher> i think so
[02:24] <SonikkuAmerica> nezzario: Or even VirtualBox (VBox)
[02:24] <WeThePeople> rmobenchain, you are using a live cd atm right?
[02:24] <nezzario> well i have both of those
[02:24] <rmobenchain> wethepeople: that is correct
[02:25] <kingnick42> SonikkuAmerica - I'll check
[02:25] <nezzario> going to pop this disk out of this little box and give it a shot
[02:25] <kingnick42> HL-2140
[02:25] <nezzario> btw, will ubuntu & gnome work "ok" with 512mb of memory and a single 1.8ghz celeron processor?
[02:25] <WeThePeople> rmobenchain, try installing and download updates and 3rd party apps
[02:25] <SonikkuAmerica> kingnick42: Dunno about that one. I have a 2040 bia USB port, no problem. Maybe check the driver you're using? Fiddle with that?
[02:26] <nezzario> mostly going to do non-x stuff but occasionally i might want a gui for web browseing or something
[02:26] <SonikkuAmerica> kingnick42: s/bia/via
[02:26] <rmobenchain> oh man, please don't say it's that simple.  I totally didn't do that upon install :P
[02:26] <WeThePeople> rmobenchain, you do want to install ubuntu then?
[02:26] <rmobenchain> oh yeah.  LOVE ubuntu
[02:26] <WeThePeople> rmobenchain, that would fix the issue most likely
[02:26] <kingnick42> SonikkuAmerica - If I went into a mint live cd, wouldI be able to see the driver its using, and then somehow magically transfer it to ubuntu?
[02:27] <rmobenchain> Windows has proven to be nothing but crap lately.  thanks Wethepeople :)
[02:27] <SonikkuAmerica> kingnick42: My guess is that Mint might have used ndiswrapper, so no easy way to tell.
[02:27] <SonikkuAmerica> rmobenchain: You know Ubuntu GNOME is an official flavor right?
[02:28] <SonikkuAmerica> nezzario: ^ Meant that for you, oops
[02:28] <nezzario> No, I really don't ever use linux with x
[02:28] <nezzario> I'm extremely ignorant on the subject tbh
[02:29] <kingnick42> SonikkuAmerica - so in short, just try all all the drivers until they work?
[02:29] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: I tried that earlier and it didn't help. Will try it again. How do I make the Windows Boot Loader recognize Linux?
[02:29] <nezzario> I don't even know if people are using xfree or x11 these days, and honestly can't remember the difference, if there even is one.  :)
[02:29] <SonikkuAmerica> kingnick42: Yeah.
[02:29] <WeThePeople> rmobenchain, if what i suggested doesnt fix the issue then open up additional drivers and check that
[02:29] <SonikkuAmerica> WeThePeople: He left
[02:29] <kingnick42> Ah, bother
[02:29] <nezzario> I've been using backtrack all this week and was impressed, it's built on ubuntu and used gnome as well, .. Was wanting to give it a shot on this router-ish machine
[02:30] <SonikkuAmerica> nezzario: GNOME 2?
[02:30] <hawa> i cannot login... your system os running in low graphics mode
[02:30] <nezzario> No clue really
[02:30] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, i booted to ubuntu and ran boot repair that way and grub recognized windows
[02:30] <hawa> ubuntu 12.04
[02:30] <SonikkuAmerica> nezzario: If it had 2 panels, it was 2
[02:30] <nezzario> 2 panels?  what kinda panels?
[02:32] <hawa> please somebody help
[02:32] <hawa> i cannot login onto my ubuntu
[02:32] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: I can't boot to Linux. I can't boot it in ANY fashion I know. It doesn't load. I can't even get a Live CD working now.
[02:33] <astRocreep> just booted it and it stole my wifi
[02:33] <astRocreep> it's gnome2 looks like
[02:33] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, hold on
[02:33] <astRocreep> with a custom theme
[02:33] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | hawa
[02:33] <hawa> after booting it says your system is running in low graphics mode
[02:33] <WeThePeople> hawa, i think you need a driver fo your gpu
[02:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Can you click the OK button (or TAB to it and press ENTER)?
[02:34] <hawa> i think its because i tried to purge my lamp server
[02:34] <hawa> and it says autoremove some packaages
[02:34] <hawa> how do i install it?!! i cannot login
[02:35] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: Can you get a live image working?
[02:36] <hawa> sonikkuamerica is there any other way
[02:36] <hawa> i dont have iso now
[02:36] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, can you get to your bios? if not you may need to reset your bios
[02:36] <mohan> facebook.com
[02:36] <WeThePeople> hawa, you need to get to a tty1
[02:36] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: Not that I know of... what we'll need to do is boot from a live image and run [ lspci ] in a terminal so we can see what graphics card you have
[02:36] <hulu> who can help me with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1179367
[02:37] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: Yes, I can get to the BIOS.
[02:37] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: Or try running a failsafeX session from recovery mode
[02:37] <hawa> oh that i can do
[02:37] <hawa> failsafe doesnt work
[02:37] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: Odd... failsafe fails.
[02:37] <hawa> sonikk
[02:37] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, what are the bios settings set at right now and the make and model of your comp.
[02:37] <hawa> what command did u say?
[02:38] <hulu> i want to change the live user profile,but when i change the /etc/skel ,to create live user not copy from /etc/skel
[02:38] <hawa> hehe
[02:38] <hawa> sonikk the command
[02:38] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: [ lspci ]
[02:39] <hawa> its switchable ones
[02:39] <hawa> one intel chipset family
[02:39] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: NVIDIA Optimus?
[02:39] <hawa> another nvidia geforce gt 540m it says
[02:40] <hawa> but i think i got 525m
[02:40] <hawa> yeah exactly... optimus
[02:40] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, you canpm me if you like
[02:40] <WeThePeople> can pm*
[02:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !bumblebee | hawa, have you tried this?
[02:40] <hawa> its installed
[02:41] <hawa> i mean it was woeking till yesterday
[02:41] <hawa> then i tried to purge my lampserver
[02:41] <hawa> then it said to autoremove some packages
[02:41] <hawa> so i did it.. and now i see this
[02:42] <boggle> sudo apt-get clean -------> sudo: unable to resolve host id
[02:42] <boggle> Any ideas?
[02:42] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: Try [ rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe && sudo service lightdm restart ]
[02:42] <boggle> Also, my hostname is id, if that could be an issue
[02:43] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: Hold on.
[02:44] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: (You can't run that command in recovery btw)
[02:45] <OerHeks> SonikkuAmerica, maybe reinstall ubuntu-desktop ssolves it.
[02:45] <hawa> exactly
[02:45] <hawa> it doesnt
[02:45] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: The make is a Toshiba Satellite C855D-S5103, with Windows Pre-installed.
[02:45] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: You'll need to boot up as normal and hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 as soon as the low-graphics mode screen shows up
[02:46] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: Then log in and run those command
[02:46] <SonikkuAmerica> s
[02:46] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: Windows 8, that is.
[02:46] <hawa> okay thanks...
[02:46] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, if you turnon secure boot what does it do
[02:46] <hawa> brb
[02:47] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, well get me those bios settings first
[02:49] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: Which settings specifically?
[02:50] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: Boot-Repair Disk won't load with or withour Secure Boot enabled.
[02:53] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, do you see a ahci, csm?
[02:53] <WeThePeople> fast boot
[02:53] <Intelligitimate> Yes.
[02:53] <hawa> sonikk aRe you there
[02:53] <WeThePeople> what is disabled and enabled
[02:53] <Intelligitimate> Yes, just changed it, Boot-Repair Disk now loading.
[02:54] <WeThePeople> ok good
[02:54] <hawa> itsstuck in some kind of thing
[02:54] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: What kind of thing?
[02:54] <hawa> ou'd not write bytes broken pipe
[02:54] <WeThePeople> you are good to go then
[02:55] <silv3r_m00n> isnt there a full sized dvd of ubuntu which contains more packages ?
[02:55] <hawa> could not write bytes broken pipe
[02:55] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: Broken pipe? Time to reinstall. Hate to say it.
[02:55] <hawa> what does that mean?
[02:55] <hawa> seriously???
[02:56] <hawa> awwwwwwwq i have my assignments in there
[02:56] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: Sorry for sounding blunt, but broken pipes are extremely hard to fix... you might be able to get a second opinion.
[02:56] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: Don't worry, this is 13.04 right?
[02:56] <hawa> 12.04
[02:57] <WeThePeople> hawa, you could install fluxbox to work with that distro works with broken pipes
[02:57] <WeThePeople> sudo apt-get install -y fluxbox
[02:57] <SonikkuAmerica> That's a possibility too
[02:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Give it a shot
[02:57] <hawa> is it int the repository
[02:57] <hawa> ?
[02:57] <cxipher> java works - have given up on ampache server
[02:58] <Flannel> WeThePeople: Please don't ever recommend the -y flag here.  Thanks.
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: It should be.
[02:58] <WeThePeople> flannel, why
[02:58] <hawa> flannel is that serious thing?
[02:58] <WeThePeople> -y = yes
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica> hawa: If all else fails, select the "Reinstall" option on the live image when installing and the installer won't touch your /home folder at all.
[02:59] <Flannel> WeThePeople, hawa: Because when there are problems, you don't want it to automatically continue.  That's why it prompts you in the first place.
[02:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Flannel: -y != --force-yes
[02:59] <Flannel> SonikkuAmerica: I'm aware.
[03:00] <SonikkuAmerica> But the -y switch DOES mean "Select YES without reviewing"
[03:00] <WeThePeople> ok will do
[03:00] <Flannel> WeThePeople: Thanks.
[03:00] <WeThePeople> sounds logical
[03:00] <hawa> i am installing the fluxbox
[03:00] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: Grub is now working, but Linux Mint does not load. Here is the paste bin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5695758/
[03:00] <hawa> slow net in my country
[03:00] <junix659> hi, what package do i need for the linux -headers to compile VMware tools?
[03:00] <music> music
[03:01] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, does mint support uefi or efi?
[03:01] <Intelligitimate> It was booting earlier.
[03:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Be back soon!
[03:02] <Intelligitimate> Now Grub recognizes Windows 8. I think I broke Grub earlier when I tried to update it.
[03:02] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: Now Grub recognizes Windows 8. I think I broke Grub earlier when I tried to update it.
[03:02] <WeThePeople> so everything os ok now?
[03:02] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: It freezes in Linux Mint Recovery Mode too.
[03:03] <WeThePeople> i was going to suggest update
[03:03] <junix659> ?
[03:07] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: No.
[03:11] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, whats up
[03:11] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: Nothing is currently loading from Grub, including Windows 8.
[03:11] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: Windows 8 is doing a "Restore" now.
[03:12] <johnjohn101> windows 8!!
[03:12] <WeThePeople> toshibas imo are a pain to work with, but thats me
[03:13] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: I don't think it's just you, lol.
[03:13] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: Windows 8 seems to have frozen. Don't know if I should restart or not.
[03:14] <moi> :D
[03:14] <WeThePeople> no wait more
[03:14] <moi> win sucks
[03:15] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, im on a asus k55a laptop, using win8 and ubuntu 12.04.2 both x64 and install of 12.04 went fairly smooth
[03:16] <techsilo> New user here. Which is the recommended directory to install programs? Especially programs which are not installed via package manager; rather, are installed by simply unzipping a tar/zip file?
[03:16] <techsilo> I tried /opt, but it causes permission issues because root is the owner
[03:16] <dr_willis> techsilo:  as it should  be for a system directory
[03:17] <Flannel> techsilo: If they're unix-like (where they go in /bin /lib and all of those) then they go in /usr/local/*, if theyre stand-alone packages, they go in /opt
[03:17] <dr_willis> if you want the app useablr by everyone, install it as root into /opt/ is normal
[03:17] <techsilo> dr_willis: Thank you. So where should I be installing it instead?
[03:17] <dr_willis> details will depend on ethe exact app
[03:17] <dr_willis> a user can keep things in their own home just fine
[03:17] <Flannel> techsilo: If you don't want it usable by anyone but you, you install it in ~/bin
[03:18] <dr_willis> for that users own use
[03:18] <junix659> hi, where is the kernel header path ?
[03:18] <techsilo> Flannel, dr_willis : Thanks. These are just unzipped directories. Inside them, there are executable files.
[03:18] <techsilo> Are you suggesting to keep them under /home/techsilo/installs or something like that?
[03:18] <dr_willis> techsilo:  what are   the apps exactly?
[03:19] <dr_willis> safest to keep them in your home
[03:19] <techsilo> A lot of them are like Android Development Kit (which is just unzipped), other utility Java based programs, etc
[03:20] <techsilo> dr_willis: Thank you for the recommendation. I will keep it that way then. Under my home directory.
[03:22] <somsip> !launchpad
[03:25] <jhmsei> Buenas noches
[03:27] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, whats going on
[03:28] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: How do I copy and paste in Boot Repair???
[03:28] <Intelligitimate> WeThePeople: In the terminal window, that is.
[03:29] <jhmsei> no encuentro soporte para mp3 ubuntu studio 13.4 alguien me puede decir como lo descargo?
[03:35] <peepsalot> how do i send f2 to a process inside byobu, it seems to open a new screen.  i want to setup htop instead
[03:37] <dr_willis> you may need to remap the byobu keys and what they do in the byobu configs
[03:43] <bryguy_> my iphone won't mount even in nautilus, used to work fine a few days ago. Using xfce on 12.10
[03:43] <bryguy_> anyone else see this/have advice? It sometimes would fail to mount in thunar but opening nautilus always made it show up (I guess it hooked up with gvfs better). i tried gigolo as well, no luck.
[03:44] <bryguy_> looking at the log it seems like it tries to open the iphone as an ethernet device then quits with link not ready, I just want to grab photos off it
[03:45] <bryguy_> I guess I'll just load it on my wife's windows box but I hate to admit defeat
[03:45] <S_A> Hi. While upgrading 12.10 to 13.4, update manager is getting stuck at "setting new software channels" error is "W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/universe/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]"
[03:45] <S_A> any suggestions on solution for this
[03:45] <S_A> ?
[03:47] <betrayd> S_A maybe pick different mirrors?
[03:48] <S_A> betrayd: its taking by default. I am not sure if i change default files
[03:49] <dr_willis> could be that server is down or getting updated
[03:55] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, idk
[03:56] <Gabboz> Hi.  Ubuntu 12.04(not installed).  I have the alternate ISO and two twin HDDs.  If I choose RAID 1, can I set up /, /home and swap partitions mirrored?  Thanks in advance.
[03:57] <WeThePeople> intelligitimate, well if its in the terminal window then right click copy
[03:58] <ErdMutter> I seem to be experiencing issues pairing bluetooth devices on Ubuntu 13.04. For a number of devices it is coming up as "Setting up 'device name here' failed". For example my Logitech bluetooth keyboard, it will find it in the Bluetooth New Device Setup but will just give me a spinny ball when I try to continue. Then after a short while it will fail once again. :\ Any ideas of what should I do? As I have tried disabling and re-en
[03:58] <ErdMutter> abling bluetooth on both sides.
[03:58] <true_techie> is there a way to backup files to the cloud from the terminal?
[03:58] <techtronic> hey, iptables wont log to a file but i can see the dropped packets running dmesg
[03:59] <techtronic> any ideas
[03:59] <techtronic> true techie, whos cloud
[04:00] <WeThePeople> true_techie, yes its still based of ftp
[04:00] <true_techie> techtronic, cloud storage like dropbox, ubuntuone etc
[04:01] <techtronic> true techie, yes http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man1/dropbox.1.html
[04:01] <WeThePeople> true_techie, just install dropbox from software center iirc
[04:02] <true_techie> i can only use the pc through a terminal
[04:02] <Gabboz> true_techie, dropbox can be installed on ubuntu server, so yes.
[04:02] <techtronic> true techie http://www.servercircle.com/Ubuntu%20Linux/Dropbox-over-the-command-line-in-Ubuntu-Server_1519
[04:03] <techtronic> anyone able to help with iptables logging, not logging to file but i can see it running dmesg
[04:05] <bean> techtronic, i think it should log to /var/log/messages?
[04:05] <th0r> bean: /var/log/syslog?
[04:05] <bean> its been a long day, yes.
[04:05] <techtronic> id love to i just dont know why its not logging to file
[04:05] <bean> techtronic, tail -f /var/log/syslog
[04:05] <bean> i think
[04:06] <techtronic> yeah that will show you the last few lines of syslog, what im saying is there are no iptables entries in syslog /messages/any other file
[04:06] <techtronic> i can only view iptables by running dmesg
[04:07] <techtronic> iptables events even
[04:07] <th3pun15h3r> has anyone been able to use accessiblity software like orca with ubuntu using openbox as standalone?
[04:07] <techtronic> iptables events even?
[04:08] <techtronic> bean, get what im saying?
[04:11] <max4men> Welcome, ladies and gentlemen!
[04:11] <max4men> please tell me how to add a clock in gnome shell?
[04:12] <max4men> 12.04 server installed (it happened was too lazy to rearrange), put the gnome shell, not hours
[04:22] <crf> Hi, on power settings there is a setting Wi-Fi: turns off wireless devices. What does it do?
[04:23] <OerHeks> crf turning off wireless saves power
[04:23] <crf> If I set it to "on" my wireless stays on. If I set it to "off" my wireless stays off
[04:23] <Gabboz> if youre on a desktop it wont matter
[04:24] <crf> I'm using a laptop.
[04:24] <Gabboz> so whats your issue?
[04:25] <crf> I find that very confusing. I thought the setting to "off" would result in power saving not shuttng down my wireless.
[04:27] <Gabboz> Think of it this way, wireless is radio.  radio recieve/transmission requires power to run
[04:27] <Gabboz> turning off wifi when not needed increases battery life.  many laptops also have a switch that serve a similar purpose.
[04:27] <Gabboz> other reasons are for security reasons.
[04:27] <crf> How do I stop it from turning off wi-fi?
[04:28] <yeehi> What kind of people use Debian instead of Ubuntu?
[04:28] <Gabboz> yeehi, those who want rock-solid stability
[04:28] <Gabboz> crf, are you running something past 12.04? If so, i cant help my laptop is on 12.04.2
[04:28] <blebaford> Hey if I edit my .profile, is there an easy way to get those changes to be realized, without logging in/out?
[04:29] <somsip> blebaford: . .profile
[04:29] <Gabboz> somsip, today i learned. :)
[04:29] <crf> Gabboz, I am past 12.04
[04:29] <Gabboz> crf, maybe someone else can help with that.
[04:29] <blebaford> somsip: is that ./.profile?
[04:29] <crf> ty Gabboz.
[04:30] <somsip> blebaford: no - . (period) is short for 'source' So you could use 'source .profile' or '. .profile'
[04:30] <blebaford> somsip: sweet, thanks a lot
[04:30] <somsip> blebaford: np
[04:31] <desinfect> << search animal porn
[04:31] <blebaford> ./disconnect
[04:31] <somsip> BlackDex: try /wc or /quit
[04:31] <somsip> BlackDex: not meant for you sorry
[04:32] <chamunks> !openvpn
[04:32] <chamunks> openvpn has such a nice website why is it still so damn complicated installing it.
[04:33] <chamunks> im trying to install an openvpn instance on a 12.04 server in a vps
[04:33] <echoe> because it's a complicated peice of software? idk
[04:33] <sianhulo> Is there a way to make mono apps look more native?(currently looking like windows 95)
[04:33] <chamunks> https://library.linode.com/networking/openvpn/ubuntu-10.04-lucid I started here
[04:33] <chamunks> trying to get that to work with 12.04 and got stuck at . /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/2.0/build-ca
[04:33] <tachyons> sianhulo : using winforms?
[04:34] <tachyons> or gtk#
[04:34] <sianhulo> tachyons, I don't know what's that, I downloaded an app for linux that's written in mono
[04:34] <sianhulo> tachyons, whichever (gtk prefered)
[04:34] <chamunks> then I looked at another seemingly more extensive guide http://www.openlogic.com/wazi/bid/188052/From-Zero-to-OpenVPN-in-30-Minutes
[04:35] <tachyons> sianhulo which app? link please  :-)
[04:35] <chamunks> which also seems lacking but anyways if anyone has any advice for someone who feels like im banging my head against a wall I would be eternally greatful :P
[04:35] <opti> how does one check if turbo boost is working on their shiny new cpu? cpufreq-info only seems to report up to 3.8GHz but it supposedly turbos to 4.0GHz ?
[04:35] <sianhulo> chamunks, I don't know remember the exact file, but you only needed 1 or 2 packages tog et openvpn to work
[04:36] <chamunks> sianhulo, apt-get install openvpn udev sound about correct?
[04:36] <sianhulo> chamunks, openvpn and network-manager-openvpn
[04:37] <chamunks> sianhulo, its a headless server I'd imagine network-manager-openvpn is for desktop
[04:37] <sianhulo> then you use the ubuntu network manager and this time it will recognize the openvpn files
[04:37] <sianhulo> chamunks, oh!then I don't really know
[04:37] <chamunks> sianhulo, heh its fine thanks for your attention to it anyways :) I'm pretty sure the clientside setup is much more simple.
[04:38] <chamunks> linode has a stackscript for pptp or something like that.
[04:41] <midnightmagic> Can anyone recommend a PPA for 12.04 LTS where I can get qemu >= 1.4.x ?
[04:42] <Killcraft> Anyone know where keepassx's plugin folder is located in the directory?
[04:42] <Killcraft> tbh I looked in usr/lib/ and I didn't even find a keepassx folder
[04:43] <dr_willis> try 'locate keepassx'
[04:43] <nirvana_> hello i recently installed ubuntu13.04 on my asus k55v laptop, yesterday i fixed the sound in my headphones by adding a line in alsa-base.conf but today that config i guess it failed it showed me DUmmy Output so before doing any changes to the configs i rebooted except that just like yesterday ubuntu hangs on reboot screen and i had to hard shut down the laptop
[04:43] <nirvana_> but now the sound works again yay
[04:43] <nirvana_> but i'd like to know how i can solve the reboot problem
[04:44] <somsip> !PPA | midnightmagic
[04:44] <sianhulo> can someone recommend a lyrics app that works with clementine?I'm currently using osd-lyrics, but I would prefer something with active development/with the option to add sources as most of my songs weren't in the database of the sources it managed
[04:44] <chamunks> Killcraft, I would imagine its likely somewhere inside your userspace in either ~/.config or ~/.keepassx
[04:44] <chamunks> Killcraft, but im just guessing.
[04:45] <OerHeks> Killcraft, The KeePass plugins are in /usr/lib/keepass2/
[04:46] <nirvana_> does anyone else encountered reboot hangs?
[04:47] <chamunks> OerHeks, careful I think theres two versions of keepass and keepass2 relies on mono and keepassx is a legacy[or forked] version which does not
[04:48] <chamunks> I've been considdering the switch to keepass from lastpass but I just gave in and paid up for lastpass instead.
[04:49] <somsip> nirvana_: maybe something of help here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140112
[04:49] <midnightmagic> somsip: checkinstall it is! woo!
[04:49] <echoe> chamunks, you can have both. and you don't need to pay for lastpass do you? what do you get for paying? have always been kinda foggy about that
[04:50] <echoe> i know it has the phone client but why do i need that when i can just browse to the site
[04:50] <chamunks> echoe, I'd like to talk about last pass with you but I dont want to offtopic too much care to okay me pmming you?
[04:51] <chamunks> echoe, ah basically paid lastpass gives you mobile appps.
[04:51] <th0r> echoe: keepassx also has an android app, not sure about ios though
[04:51] <echoe> pming is fine
[04:51] <echoe> when i go down to my job's datacenter it would be kinda useful but i always just open up chrome on the computer i need the passwords on. i mean ... yeeeah
[04:54] <NexusPhantom_> Hi everyone! I have a question. I'm running off a live cd, and want to burn a newer version of ubuntu to a cd. But, I only have 1 drive. Is it alright to pop out the live cd I'm running off of, and burn the new one? Thanks.
[04:54] <NexusPhantom_> I.E. Disk Drive
[04:55] <echoe> uhhh is the live cd running off of RAM? I think it puts itself into RAM
[04:55] <echoe> so you should be able to if it's entirely in ram.
[04:55] <NexusPhantom_> So it would work?
[04:55] <somsip> NexusPhantom_: if you chose the source and destination drive as being the same, the copying software should prompt you to change theCD for a blank one once it is ready
[04:56] <NexusPhantom_> Alright thank you. I was just wondering if ubuntu needed constant access to the cd.
[04:56] <dr_willis> the live cd can be removed?  cant say ive ever notived that.. btut i use live-usbs these days
[04:56] <dr_willis> there used to be a 'toram' option. but that may be a long-removed option
[04:57] <NexusPhantom_> I'm using ubuntu 9 if that makes a difference
[04:57] <NexusPhantom_> I can't use a live cd; it's an old motherboard.
[04:58] <dr_willis> that logic is not always valid.
[04:58] <dr_willis> its possible newer ubuntu releases can work with older hardware then older releases
[04:58] <New2Ubuntu> Hello I've just started using ubuntu 12.4 would that be a good started version ?
[04:58] <dr_willis> up to a point. ;)
[04:58] <NexusPhantom_> I already tried, it doesn't work.
[04:58] <dr_willis> New2Ubuntu:  a lot of people stick with the LTS releases
[04:58] <dr_willis> NexusPhantom_:  what dosent work exactly? and how old is 'old'
[04:59] <NexusPhantom_> I had an old cd, and thought i could burn a new one using live cd from the old one.
[04:59] <NexusPhantom_> old is top of the line 6 years ago.
[04:59] <New2Ubuntu> dr_willis: lts what is the difference ?
[04:59] <dr_willis> NexusPhantom_:  so what cpu is in it?
[04:59] <NexusPhantom_> For the motherboard
[04:59] <dr_willis> !lts
[04:59] <NexusPhantom_> It doesn't support usb booting at all.
[05:00] <New2Ubuntu> Thanks will download and install
[05:01] <jenev> hey guys
[05:02] <jenev> i have a suspected damaged hdd, so i want to boot a live cd to conform this
[05:02] <NexusPhantom_> The whole reason I'm doing this is to "evaluate" Ubuntu Touch and since a live cd can't store perm changes, I thought "might as well install the newest one on a different drive."
[05:02] <jenev> but when i try to boot the live cd i keep getting errors about timeout sbin/modprobe
[05:03] <jenev> and io error sector 0
[05:03] <jenev> and the cd doesnt go any further
[05:04] <dr_willis> sector 0 is the very start of the hd.. if the  drive or disk is bad or  is failing.. thats  a commpace error i recall.
[05:05] <tinlmgoo> ?
[05:06] <dr_willis> tinlmgoo:  ??
[05:06] <jenev> dr_willis, but us there anyway to get pass that stage of the boot process?
[05:06] <tinlmgoo> help
[05:06] <NexusPhantom_> sorry, afk. CPU is an old Intel 2.4 ghz 4 core
[05:06] <tinlmgoo> 呵呵
[05:07] <NexusPhantom_> Again, top of the line a few years ago, and still works great.
[05:07] <dr_willis> jenev:  i would think sector 0 is the very start of the hd the  thing needs to read to boot.. so im not sure how you would bypass that
[05:07] <NexusPhantom_> unplug the hdd, and when it comes to installing, replug it back in
[05:07] <nezzario> so, i'm suppose to be able to just do "iwconfig wlan0 essid blahblah" and it connects to an open wifi ?
[05:08] <NexusPhantom_> AKA Hotswap.
[05:08] <nezzario> because, it isn't working (wlan0 exists, it's a well supported rtl chipset).. afterwards ifconfig -a shows 0 rx and 0 tx packets
[05:08] <jenev> i'm talking about when booting from the live cd
[05:08] <jenev> dr_willis
[05:09] <NexusPhantom_> @jenev yeah, just unplug the hdd, and when the live cd boots up, plug it back in. hotswap is what it's called
[05:09] <nezzario> nevermind, just read everything
[05:10] <tinlmgoo> 。。
[05:10] <jenev> nexusphantom, oh ok didnt realize i could do that ill give it a try tomorrow thanks :)
[05:12] <NexusPhantom_> disk
[05:12] <NexusPhantom_> @jenev, if you still receive the error, it's likely you have a bad ubuntu dis
[05:13] <jenev> NexusPhantom, nah the disk is fine because if i use a different hdd it works fine
[05:14] <chamunks> Restart networking and run ‘sysctl -p’ for the changes to take effect. Or just restart the server.
[05:14] <chamunks> it says restart networking
[05:14] <chamunks> and run sysctl -p
[05:15] <chamunks> does that mean that I have to figure out how to restart networking?
[05:16] <jenev> btw since my drive has gone bad im thinking about using a temporary one (about 80gb) until the new one arrives, but is it possible to copy over the content of the temporary one to the mew one bit by bit?
[05:16] <NexusPhantom_> yeah but youll need a specialized program
[05:17] <jenev> because i don't wanna get to comfortable with temporary one and then have to do over everything i might have done
[05:17] <NexusPhantom_> there aren't many for ubuntu, but there are plenty for windows
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> jenev: you need recovery software or cloning?
[05:18] <dr_willis> you can image a old instsall to a new hard drive
[05:18] <NexusPhantom_> cloning
[05:18] <NexusPhantom_> it's not that simple.
[05:18] <dr_willis> hmm.. ive used 'dd' to clone a smaller hd to a larger one.. then used gparted to resize the partions.
[05:18] <NexusPhantom_> If it's the same OS and same build yeah
[05:19] <NexusPhantom_> That would work so long as the system harware doesn't change.
[05:20] <dr_willis> hmm.. ive rarely had issues with moveingg  linux hds from one machine to a differnt one with very differnt hardware. ;) other then video drivers , i dont really recall any issues at all
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> NexusPhantom_: on xp you can do that, but ubuntu is another story
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> cant
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> !clone | jenev
[05:21] <dr_willis> ive taken a 'full' install to a 16gb usb flash and cloned it to 6+ differnt machines befor. ;)    had to fix the same hostname however...
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: so that mean ubuntu adapts its configuration immidiatly?
[05:23] <NexusPhantom_> it changes it at startup
[05:23] <NexusPhantom_> same with windows (to a certain extent)
[05:23] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  yes.. has for years for me...
[05:24] <NexusPhantom_> I can change a CPU in windows and It'll adapt at startup as long as I don't change 32 to 64 bit (or vice versa)
[05:24] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  ive rarely ever had any issues moveing one linux install to new hardware
[05:24] <jenev> NexusPhantom, what was the last thing you said
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: nice1
[05:25] <NexusPhantom_> Windows adapts to new hardware (even big changes like cpu, just not bit changes)
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: would dd also be the fastest way of cloning data one hd to another?
[05:25] <dr_willis> just watch out and make sure you dont like move a system with  the wrong version nvidia drivers onto a sustem with differnt nvidia card needing differnt drivers.. or  one with nvidia drivers into an ati system
[05:26] <NexusPhantom_> Motherboard changes in windows cause problems. Then you get errors like "ntroskrl is missing"
[05:26] <dr_willis> dd will give a straight clone.. identical.. but may need extra work to fully use the rest of the hard drive
[05:26] <NexusPhantom_> For ubuntu, you should be soilid, just watch out for video drivers
[05:26] <NexusPhantom_> Just expand the rest of the unallocated space
[05:27] <dr_willis> for my 16b ussb flash work, i alwys used gparted to make  the rest of the hd into the  /home/ partion on the machines
[05:27] <dr_willis> do i dident even have to resize  the / partition.
[05:27] <NexusPhantom_> " (ditto)
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> ive used clean installs everywhere :p
[05:27] <dlam> so weird:   `du -sh /`  says  9.7G   but  `df -h`  says 64G is used!  anyone know what to check?
[05:28] <NexusPhantom_> Gonna get Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 4, any recommendations, known issues, etc?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> !nexus | NexusPhantom_
[05:28] <NexusPhantom_> I know it's developer preview, but I can't wait
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> !nexus7 | NexusPhantom_
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> !touch | NexusPhantom_
[05:29] <dr_willis> i got a nexus 7, and havent really seen a reson to put ubuntu touch on it yet..
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> NexusPhantom_: im also thrilled to test it out :p
[05:30] <NexusPhantom_> Also, since my device is already rooted and unlocked, do all my files still get deleted?
[05:30] <NexusPhantom_> e.g. contacts
[05:30] <dr_willis> NexusPhantom_:  i belive that would be a YES
[05:30] <dr_willis> but check in the touch channel
[05:30] <NexusPhantom_> So I should make a recovery image
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> backingup is always a good idea
[05:31] <dr_willis> rule # 3  of computing - always have backups
[05:31] <dr_willis> ;)
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:31] <pudlejmpr> exit
[05:32] <tones> dr_wilis what do you use a nexus 7 for mostly?
[05:32] <bazhang> !ot | tones
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> NexusPhantom_: there is a rolling back tutorial to android on that url
[05:33] <NexusPhantom_> BTW can someone point to a forum of devices unoffically supported by Ubuntu Touch? For the smart ones who've ported it.
[05:33] <bazhang> the touch channel NexusPhantom_
[05:33] <somsip> !touch | NexusPhantom_
[05:33] <dr_willis> tones:  IRC, and Crunchyroll.com   ;)
[05:34] <NexusPhantom_> I want Ubuntu Touch on my phone to help devs, and to get it more linux supported
[05:34] <NexusPhantom_> k thanks
[05:35] <NexusPhantom_> Also, when I get the slimport adapter (pretty expensive) I'll connect it to my TV and stream some netflix
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> !chat | NexusPhantom_
[05:35] <darkangel> Zorin lite is kickin my ASS
[05:36] <darkangel> fast as hell guys
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> darkangel: plz mind your language
[05:36] <darkangel> sorry lot
[05:36] <NexusPhantom_> I hate to be so dependent on you guys, but I have an intel 64 bit processor, and when I downloaded the 64 bit ubuntu, it has amd64 in it. Will it work?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> NexusPhantom_: yes
[05:37] <darkangel> yes
[05:37] <darkangel> i have intel
[05:37] <darkangel> and its great for Ubuntu OSes
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> NexusPhantom_: if not the right architecture setup wont continue neither
[05:37] <NexusPhantom_> thanks. If you are looking for something cool and new, take a look at ReactOS.
[05:37] <darkangel> use Zorin if u like to play Games alot
[05:37] <darkangel> Zorin lite
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> darkangel: whats that for?
[05:38] <darkangel> what Zorin?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> yes
[05:38] <darkangel> Linux Type
[05:38] <Stars> hi, i need some help plz
[05:39] <Stars> system wont start in GUI
[05:39] <darkangel> its tecknickly Ubuntu but not so much resourses used and faster and better easyer setup for me though not sure about others
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Stars: any errors mate?
[05:39] <dr_willis> if you want a lighter ubuntu - try Lubuntu
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> darkangel: lets discuss ubuntu troubleshoot here
[05:39] <Stars> otuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/aPes7cjq
[05:39] <darkangel> ok
[05:40] <Stars> lotuspsychje, there is no error on startup just on boot in to GUI any more
[05:40] <darkangel> any 1 need help fire away on the questions or i can help u through the processor if u have TEAMVIEWER program on ur computer
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Stars: you might wanna try the failsafeX on grub
[05:41] <dr_willis> failsafeX > is that still in ubuntu?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> Stars: did you upgrade or clean install?
[05:41] <dr_willis> not heard that mentioned in ages...
[05:41] <darkangel> what teamviewer yes
[05:41] <Stars> clean installed awhile ago
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: there is a recovery step in grub that fixes x
[05:42] <darkangel> my ID is 827 839 458 if u need live help but also u need  teamviewer program 1st
[05:43] <dr_willis> 'failsafesx' used tobe a special X setup/feature where if X craashed it would automatically restart in a  'failsafe' mode.. but i think it was more problems then it fixed.
[05:43] <Stars> lotuspsychje, do you have a url link where shows me step by step how to recovert?
[05:43] <Stars> recovery*
[05:43] <darkangel> stars i can help
[05:44] <darkangel> alot.... what OS u usin?
[05:44] <Stars> darkangel, thanks, what do i do?
[05:44] <darkangel> do u have a USB flash?
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: you can still choose the step after recovery mode
[05:44] <Stars> darkangel, im using ubuntu 11.5
[05:44] <darkangel> ok
[05:45] <gulag2013> Hi, has anyone had issues with the headphone output in 13.04?
[05:45] <darkangel> i had that issue
[05:45] <darkangel> and get teamviewer Stars ill help u lively
[05:46] <dr_willis> Stars:   Theres no ubuntu 11.5    thers a 11.04 and  11.10
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> Stars: check the supported versions of ubuntu in topic
[05:46] <Stars> dr_willis, your right is it 11.04
[05:46] <gulag2013> I can hear audio if I mess around with the wire and I'm using an application, but when testing in the sound settings no sound.
[05:46]  * dr_willis wonders how stars  would use 'teamviewer'  if he has no gui.... or did i miss somthing
[05:46] <darkangel> wire is broke then
[05:47] <darkangel> or hardware of computer
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:47] <dr_willis> gulag2013:  what do you mean  by hear audio? you hear actual sound output? or you referin to humming noises?
[05:47] <gulag2013> Na, I wouldn't get any sound at all. I had this happen before I believe, it's an issue you just can't have it plugged in all the way. Tried a different wire.
[05:48] <Stars> dr_willis, i dont have GUI startup now, how can i used teamviewer?
[05:48] <darkangel> hold on ill check somethin
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> Stars: just reboot pc and hold shift to enter grub mate, then choose recovery/ and try to reset graphics
[05:48] <darkangel> is GUI Linux type?
[05:49] <dr_willis> Stars:  thats the point i was making,,. you CANT... so suggestions to use teamviewer.. are a bit..  pointless
[05:49] <gulag2013> About ready to go back to 12.04, 12.10 had it's quirks. I3.04 so close to being primetime
[05:49] <dr_willis> Stars:  what is your video chipset and has the gui ever worked?
[05:50] <darkangel> Stars download Unetbootin its the easyest way to put a fresh OS on ur Flash
[05:50] <Stars> lotuspsychje, did the pastebin tell you anything?
[05:50] <darkangel> any Linux product is able to install unetboot as i know of
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> darkangel: youre not very helpfull like this
[05:50] <Stars> dr_willis, is raiden i think
[05:51] <SexyBoBo> Ok i am at a grub> prompt  when i try linux /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/sda2 it tells me invalid magic number
[05:51] <Stars> dr_willis, Stars> otuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/aPes7cjq
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[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Stars: try to answer dr_willis question
[05:53] <ubuntu22> I am having trouble with skype in 12.04.  My cam works in the 'options' preview window, but it does not allow me to enable my cam in the call window when making a call, like there is a little box with a cam and a line through it.  Please help
[05:53] <SexyBoBo> When i ls /dev it doesn't show any sd of hd drives should it while in grub>
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> Stars: did the same graphics card work on previous ubuntu version?
[05:53] <Stars> yes video card is raiden
[05:53] <Stars> lotuspsychje, yea is it worked fine in the last 10 minths
[05:53] <Stars> months*
[05:54] <UberSlackr> I need some help with MiniDLNA! It's only "scanning" one of the directories I have listed.
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> Stars: what version? wich chipset....details plz
[05:54] <Stars> lotuspsychje, i pastbin did you see it?
[05:56] <vitimiti> hi o/
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Stars: i would try the recovery mode from grub like i told you
[05:56] <Stars> lotuspsychje, ok will do thanks
[05:57] <ubuntu22> I am having trouble with skype in 12.04.  My cam works in the 'options' preview window, but it does not allow me to enable my cam in the call window when making a call, like there is a little box with a cam and a line through it.  Please help
[05:57] <UberSlackr> Anyone know anything about MiniDLNA?
[05:57] <UberSlackr> The newest version broke my setup
[05:59] <dr_willis> UberSlackr:  give us details,
[05:59] <dr_willis> its ifs a newer version then whats in the repos. its possible the config files have changed.
[06:00] <dr_willis> ir some cache is goofed up.
[06:01] <UberSlackr> dr_willis: I upgraded MiniDLNA. Everything worked smoothly before. After upgrade I couldn't get things to work. So i completely removed the minidlna package and reinstalled it. Edited the defualt config file
[06:01] <UberSlackr> I've listed 3 directory for it to "access" but it will only list the directory thats listed first
[06:02] <UberSlackr> If I switch the one listed first, restart minidlna, it will scan the top listing again, and first get the other 3
[06:02] <bazhang> !enter | UberSlackr
[06:02] <UberSlackr> forget the other 3*
[06:03] <UberSlackr> bazhang sorry
[06:03] <dr_willis> how did you remove it?  its possible  you need to do an apt-get remove  purge minidlna       to be sure to clean out all old configs.. and verify they are in deed gone
[06:03] <dr_willis> or was it apt-get purge minidlna   (its 2 am here, and im tired)
[06:04] <UberSlackr> I used apt-get to remove it. I checked the directories where the conf files are stores, cache locations, etc. All was removed. then I proceeded to install
[06:04] <dr_willis> it may also have some verbose-logging mode/options to let you know what its doing
[06:04] <UberSlackr> The documentation provided is very very limited. and very confusing.
[06:05] <dr_willis> !info ushare
[06:05] <dr_willis> theres other dlna servers out there. i use plex these days
[06:06] <UberSlackr> Plex is to large, and beyond what I need.
[06:06] <UberSlackr> ushare won't work with the PS3 (or DLNA devices) already tried
[06:07] <dr_willis>   /me has been testing out Pi-Plex for his raspberry pi.
[06:07] <UberSlackr> Is there a way to "downgrade" the version thats install? Or will it always install the latest version of the package?
[06:08] <switching> ugh my computer cannot handle blender
[06:09] <switching> so i cannot use openshot's animated titles
[06:11] <dr_willis> !pin
[06:11] <SexyBoBo> ok new question every time grub boots to one kernel it fails and i have to go in and manually select a different kernel to boot to. How do you set grub to automaticaly boot to a different kernel
[06:11] <dr_willis> ubuntu  'latest' version may nt be the latest version thats exists.
[06:11] <Phryq> is it possible to use my phone as a trackpad through bluetooth (in ubuntu?)
[06:12] <Phryq> maybe I'm better of asking that in some kind of bluetooth specialized forum?
[06:12] <dr_willis> Phryq:  ive seen android aps for that i belive.. but iev never tried them
[06:12] <norme> hi room
[06:12] <dr_willis> also seen  apps to do it over wifi
[06:12] <mrMiyagui> through wifi though
[06:13] <Phryq> hmmm, I didn't think of Wifi. I have a Windows 8 phone
[06:13] <norme> hi axis
[06:13] <iceroot> Phryq: yes you can control the mouse and the keyboard from remote on x-servers. so you will have to find an app which will do that (i used a remote keyboard on android some month ago which wa doing that) but cant remeber the name
[06:13] <djQeuery> trying to get this network driver to work and haveing trouble with its make file. it keeps looking for a /lib/modules/3.8.0..21-generic/build   I don't have the last dir  "build"
[06:13] <iceroot> Phryq: so you should ask in an android channel
[06:14] <iceroot> Phryq: ah windows8 phone, then i dont know
[06:14] <Phryq> or a Windows Phone 8 channel?
[06:14] <dr_willis> or in the #windows channe
[06:14] <Phryq> thanks
[06:14] <iceroot> Phryq: yeah something like that
[06:14] <Phryq> #windows
[06:14] <switching> not sure if this is the best channel for this, but what is the best distro for an old xp compaq with .5 gb of 266ghz ram?  (i think i have a gb of much faster ram lying around that might work with it).
[06:15] <switching> also the processor is an athlon xp
[06:15] <iceroot> switching: lubuntu
[06:15] <norme> hi fireandice
[06:15] <dr_willis> lubuntuis the lightest ubuntu variant offically supported by thischannel. ;)
[06:15] <switching> iceroot that's what i was thinking, between that and debian
[06:15] <iceroot> switching: we only recommend ubuntu distros here
[06:16] <dr_willis> there are small;er disrtos   out there.
[06:16] <switching> dr_willis i know i'm facing a biased crowd :)
[06:16] <switching> iceroot oic i will head over to ##linux
[06:16] <norme> hi ronald88
[06:16] <iceroot> switching: yes think that is a good idea :)
[06:16] <SexyBoBo> switching: You could probably run xubuntu on it i prefer it to l
[06:16] <dr_willis> puppy-linux is good for very low end machines.
[06:16] <dr_willis> but  it depends on your needs
[06:16] <switching> sexybobo what's the difference?
[06:17] <switching> dr_willis i will check it out thanks!
[06:17] <dr_willis> tinycorelinux - is also very tiny. ;)
[06:17] <dr_willis> but a bit specilized
[06:17] <switching> i have some windows 3.0 machines too, what should I put on those? :P
[06:18] <dr_willis> switching:  CP/M or Minix  ;)
[06:18] <SexyBoBo> switching: one uses XFCE the other uses LXDE its a personal preference LXDE is a lot lighter XFCE is a bit more resource intensive but acts more like youd think a desktop should
[06:18] <djQeuery> trying to get this network driver to work and having trouble with its make file. it keeps looking for a /lib/modules/3.8.0.21-generic/build   I don't have the last dir  "build"
[06:19] <switching> sexybobo hmm i might want to go with l because of how old this is but i will check out x
[06:19] <sere> i like me lxde and fluxbox
[06:19] <sere> would be nice if there was a fluxbuntu
[06:19] <djQeuery> this is with ubuntu 13.04 and an asus nc1101 nic
[06:19] <SexyBoBo> switching: if your talking about a 486/pentium 1 era pc its really a wast of electricity to keep them running
[06:19] <dr_willis> its rather trivial to  innstall fluxbox  with the minimal cd installer. ;)
[06:19] <ccolorado> So I just installed ubuntu. I decided to leave a big chunk of a partition as "unused" since I wanted some other mountpoint that the one the installer provided. So now I want to create a filesystem and cfdisk tells me "FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: logical partitions overlap" Any idea how may i fix this issue ?
[06:20] <switching> dr_willis what's cpm?
[06:20] <dr_willis> switching:  a very very very old OS.
[06:20] <histo> ccolorado: is this a gpt partitioned disk or msdos mbr based?
[06:20] <switching> sexybobo its from the early 2000s
[06:20] <switching> dr_willis oic
[06:20] <dr_willis> 200000's ? ;)
[06:20] <dr_willis> more like the 1980's
[06:20] <switching> ? lol
[06:21] <histo> ccolorado: how big is the disk? I should say...?
[06:21] <dr_willis> I had a CP/M cart for my Vic-20, o rwas it for a C64.. i forget..
[06:21] <ccolorado> histo: 1.5T
[06:21] <switching> dr_willis he was asking about the computer i have
[06:21] <sere> dr_willis: that is the first thing i do on a fresh install.. i feel naked without it :p
[06:21] <histo> ccolorado: Did you let the installer partition it?
[06:21] <ccolorado> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5696029/
[06:21] <SexyBoBo> switching: i was refering to the windows 3.0 machines you were reffering to. If you want a low end PC look up the raspbery pi uses a lot less electricity and will be faster
[06:22] <dr_willis> Heh.  replaceing a full pc with a RaspberryPI. ;) sucking down a huge 1W of power...
[06:22] <switching> sexybobo oh hahaha no that was a joke, sorry about that
[06:22] <histo> ccolorado: paste the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[06:22] <ccolorado> histo: mm yeah but i specified the partitions
[06:22] <yousaf> hi all
[06:22] <ra-fi> hi i try to play a mp3 using the following command gst-launch filesrc location=suthu.mp3 ! mad ! alsasink thn it shows
[06:23] <dr_willis> Gut the case.. tape in raspberry pi. ;)
[06:23] <yousaf> how do I enabled time sync in ubuntu?
[06:23] <djQeuery> so from the many non responses I got am I just screwed?
[06:23] <switching> yousaf for me it autoenabled after connecting to the internet
[06:23] <dr_willis> djQeuery:  theres always the ubuntu forums and askubuntu.com if no one in here knows
[06:24] <SexyBoBo> switching: Witht he XP era machine you really have a lot of choices though I would stay away from Gnome and KDE as they have all gotten grafics heavy but most linux distros not using them will work better then windows XP could ever hope to
[06:24] <ccolorado> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5696029/
[06:24] <ra-fi> hi i try to play a mp3 using the following command gst-launch filesrc location=suthu.mp3 ! mad ! alsasink thn it shows http://pastebin.com/naDCswNh the song does not playing can you please tell me what is that problem
[06:24] <djQeuery> dr_willis: yeah was hoping to have this done tonight
[06:24] <switching> sexybobo great, thanks for the advice!
[06:24] <histo> ccolorado: please paste the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[06:24] <niaobulashidawan> hello
[06:25] <niaobulashidawan> anybody here?
[06:25] <histo> niaobulashidawan: hola
[06:25] <echoe> switching, you could install ubuntu and switch to 2d graphics version
[06:25]  * echoe shrugs
[06:25] <ccolorado> histo: sorry wrong clipboard
[06:25] <ccolorado> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5696036/
[06:25] <switching> echoe ooooh how?
[06:25] <echoe> i installed lxde just now but it kinda sucks.
[06:25] <yousaf> switching having this issue http://freddyduarte.com/2010/07/06/zend-framework-message-could-not-retrieve-a-valid-token-response-from-token-url-failed-to-validate-oauth-signature-and-token/
[06:25] <echoe> should just be able to logout and select it upon login. might only be in 12.04 though
[06:25] <SexyBoBo> dr_willis: I like the pi i have had a lot of people wanting to keep really old pc's just because they paid so much for them now there is a cheap replacement that works alot better
[06:26] <yousaf> also when i login via ssh, i see "System restart required" why?
[06:26] <dr_willis> yousaf:  thres been some kernel update most likely.
[06:26] <switching> yousaf i am a linux noob sorry i cant help you all that much
[06:26] <niaobulashidawan> has anaybody from china
[06:26] <dr_willis> thats about the only timne ive ever seen a 'restart requierd message'
[06:27] <switching> unless it's with ndiswrapper, i have been forced to learn about that :P
[06:27] <KuuuuuuH> Hi
[06:27] <echoe> yousaf if you're getting that issue please install ntp
[06:27] <echoe> it will sync your server time with clocks
[06:27] <echoe> i think it's ntp. lemme doublecheck.
[06:27] <histo> ccolorado: also parted -l /dev/sda on it
[06:28] <yousaf> i just did "ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[06:28] <blebaford> Hey guys I just added a PPA and updated, and now I'm having an issue where I get a black screen when I try to boot. It goes from the ThinkPad startup screen, to a solid purple screen, to a very brief flash of the Ubuntu logo, then just blackness. The monitor is on but just black. The interesting part is that when I press the power button to manually shut it off, the Ubuntu logo returns and seems to be booting up as normal. But b
[06:28] <blebaford> y then it's already shutting off.
[06:28] <yousaf> 24 May 06:25:27 ntpdate[2446]: step time server 91.189.94.4 offset 11.929699 sec
[06:28] <echoe> 12 second offset geez
[06:28] <echoe> if you were running dovecot, it would kill itself :(
[06:28] <yousaf> echoe but that didn't solve the issue by the looks of it
[06:29] <Ben64> blebaford: obvious question... what ppa
[06:29] <ccolorado> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5696052/
[06:29] <echoe> yousaf, can you sudo apt-get install ntp
[06:29] <echoe> ?
[06:29] <djQeuery> dr_willis: grrrr sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)   how do I do this without a nic?
[06:29] <echoe> blebaford, what thinkpad are you using
[06:29] <histo> ccolorado: looks fine to me other then your logicals are out of order but should work.
[06:30] <blebaford> echoe: fingerprint/fingerprint-gui
[06:30] <dr_willis> djQeuery:  i bought a cheap usb wifi dongle thst works in ubuntu out of the box.. for just such emergancies..  and i got a backup  plan.. a 100+ft of cat-5 cable.. ;)
[06:30] <histo> ccolorado: you should be able to mkfs on /dev/sda6
[06:30] <yousaf> echoe yes, i just did that
[06:30] <blebaford> echoe: X220
[06:30] <ccolorado> histo: any idea why cfdisk may be complaing ?
[06:31] <djQeuery> dr_willis: errrr so what do you hook the cat-5 cable to when the nic don't work?
[06:31] <gulag2013> I have been tinkering around with different distros. What would be a good resource to learn from the ground up. Comparing a windows operating system tree to Linux. I understand that everythiing is a file, but beyond that I can't get my head around things.
[06:31] <yousaf> echoe http://paste.laravel.com/t9r
[06:31] <echoe> blebaford, this is going to sound stupid but try hitting random buttons to wake it up. my x100e does that sometimes nowadays. that said i only have an x100e so can't things
[06:31] <dr_willis> djQeuery:  cant say ive ever had a wired nic that dident work out of the box..
[06:31] <bobsamfredricks1> i am a  major linux / ubuntu n00b and am wondering if anyone can help me with this issue....my mouse is way too fast, even on the slowest setting :( i posted this but haven't gotten much feedback: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/229234
[06:31] <histo> ccolorado: No idea it doesn't appear they overlap to me
[06:32] <echoe> yousaf, still not working?
[06:32] <sere> join #fluxbuntu
[06:32] <sere> oops
[06:32] <histo> ccolorado: it appears though you created them out of order but that shouldn't matter /dev/sda5 should contain a pointer to /dev/sda6
[06:32] <yousaf> echoe not by the looks of it... maybe a restart might help?
[06:32] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:33] <ccolorado> im kinda worried that snowballs with time
[06:34] <echoe> yousaf, i would restart the connections
[06:34] <echoe> restart might help.
[06:34] <yousaf> rebooted the server
[06:34] <yousaf> lets see :D
[06:34] <yousaf> I hope this fixes it because this issue came out of the blue
[06:34] <yousaf> last night
[06:35] <MonkWitDaFunk> Hi users, what exactly is nomodeset
[06:35] <Ben64> !nomodeset | MonkWitDaFunk
[06:36] <Phryq> hmmm, I dowloaded a windows program 'mouse without boarder' and it seems to have installed fine, but nothing happens when I run it
[06:37] <yousaf> echoe no luck
[06:37] <Ben64> Phryq: and that relates to ubuntu... how?
[06:37] <Guest29993> ok thanks
[06:37] <echoe> ack. ... well i don't know of the issue beyond that blog post. are you getting exactly the same errors?
[06:37] <switching> what distro is good for an emachines from 2006, 2gb of ram and a pentium 4
[06:37] <echoe> anything else not working?
[06:37] <Phryq> oh sorry, running through WINE in Ubuntu
[06:38] <aeon-ltd> switching: lubuntu? is there no gpu but the intel?
[06:38] <SexyBoBo> Phryq: #winehq
[06:38] <Ben64> Phryq: try #winehq, but it probably won't work
[06:38] <Phryq> why would it probably not work?
[06:38] <Guest29993> the latest nvidia dirver i have in additional drivers is 3.10. is there any newer?? thanks
[06:39] <switching> aeon-ltd oh my bad i should have mentioned i have a geforce 210 added into it
[06:39] <KuuuuuuH> I was set route but itnot work
[06:40] <KuuuuuuH> I have 2 connection , 1 lan for work , 2 phone for internet
[06:41] <aeon-ltd> switching: regular ubuntu should work fine if the drivers work well for the 210, though it's a hassle to try since ubuntu doesn't fit on cd
[06:42] <switching> aeon-ltd great thx for the advice!
[06:43] <Gumby> ubuntu doesnt fit on a cd?
[06:43] <blebaford> echoe: I was disconnected for a bit. My last communication was "no luck. the power button still wakes it up consistently but by then it's already shutting down"
[06:43] <blebaford> echoe: did you come up with anything?
[06:43] <ccolorado> Ok this question is more a matter of opinion. I have a dedicated partitions for movies, series, and a single one for pictures, music, and micelanious meida. What would be a good place to mount it  ? I am thinking on somethign like this : http://codepad.org/zYAfgs25 but i don't know if it is consider a bad practice
[06:44] <echoe> i didn't. um have you tried ... oh!
[06:44] <echoe> try holding shift
[06:45] <echoe> are you dualbooting?
[06:45] <echoe> if not holding shift will open the grub menu
[06:45] <echoe> and maybe it will boot to that at least and you can see if there's anything done wrong there
[06:45] <SexyBoBo> ccolorado: If it works for you and it is personal use bad practices don't matter. Mounting it like that will work fine.
[06:45] <echoe> if it does you can also insert a livecd and run boot repair
[06:46] <Gumby> ccolorado: out of curiosity, why dedicated partitions on the same disk for movies/music etc?
[06:46] <blebaford> echoe: not dual booting, I'll try shift. then I'll try boot repair.
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> Gumby: ubuntu doesn't fit on cd
[06:47] <echoe> blebaford, boot repair is this btw: http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[06:47] <ccolorado> Gumby: there is a limit on how big a partition can be.
[06:48] <Gumby> ccolorado: what type of partition are you using?
[06:48] <ccolorado> Gumby: So i thougth it would be best to have video on its own volumen.
[06:48] <ccolorado> Gumby: Ext4
[06:49] <seronis> ccolorado:  isnt that limit 2tb though ?
[06:49] <Gumby> ccolorado: the max partition size for ext4 is 1 exbibyte
[06:49] <histo> ccolorado: yeah I would mount all those under /mnt unless they are being served to the network then you could put them under /srv
[06:49] <SexyBoBo> ccolorado: ext4 partition limit is 1000 petebytes
[06:49] <Gumby> what sexybob said too
[06:50] <echoe> 1000 petabytes? that's nothing
[06:50] <blebaford> echoe: holding shift got me to the grub menu. what should I be looking for?
[06:50] <ccolorado> SexyBoBo: right, but I think there are different partitions schemas
[06:50] <histo> ccolorado: If your drive is over 2tb you need to use GUID Parition Tabels or GPT as well.
[06:50] <ccolorado> the one i am using only supports up to 2TB partitions.
[06:50] <echoe> blebaford, nice! what options are there? any?
[06:50] <ccolorado> histo: +1
[06:50] <echoe> you may want to try booting into the previous kernel
[06:51] <histo> ccolorado: cfdisk and fdisk don't support GPT partitioning so you'd have to use parted or gdisk to do it.
[06:51] <ccolorado> yup, When i fist set this up, i encontered that inforamtion, didnt quite undestood it, so i stiked with the old way
[06:53] <SexyBoBo> ccolorado: With your original question though those mount points will work great. Best practises be damned for personal use. (except alway back up)
[06:54] <Quix86> For whatever reason I do not have a grub menu at boot anymore, and automagically load the default OS. How do I fix this?
[06:54] <Gumby> ccolorado: I only initially asked because I've partitioned with the same thoughts in mind and it is a big pain in the rear when your partitions start filling up. You end up starting to move all sorts of data around.  One (or multiple) disks instead of partitions have worked better for me in the past.
[06:54] <ccolorado> SexyBoBo: well I am worried about shooting myself in the foot with that approach. But i can't think of anything wrong with it.
[06:54] <Quix86> Also at some point I tried a PPA kernel (3.6) and this is the default boot option. How do I remove this and change the default back to 3.5-newest
[06:55] <ccolorado> Gumby: that's future  ccolorado's problem.
[06:56] <blebaford> echoe: Ubuntu, with Linux 3.5.0-30-generic, same thing with (recovery mode) at the end, "Previous Linux Versions", and two Memory test entires.
[06:56] <Gumby> Quix86: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:56] <SexyBoBo> Quix86: edit your /etc/default/grub set timeout to something other then 0 then sudo update-grub
[06:56] <Gumby> ^^
[06:56] <echoe> blebaford, can try opening up 'orevious versions' and booting into an earlier kernel?
[06:56] <Gumby> ccolorado: always plan for the future :)  your future self will thank you
[06:58] <KuuuuuuH> I set route for 2 network but it not work.
[06:59] <blebaford> echo: the only option ws 3.5.0-23. Tried that and I get the same behavior. Think "recovery mode" could be of any help?
[06:59] <blebaford> echoe: the only option ws 3.5.0-23. Tried that and I get the same behavior. Think "recovery mode" could be of any help?
[07:00] <ccolorado> Gumby: yeah you're right
[07:00] <Gumby> KuuuuuuH: what is the output of route -n (paste to pastebin.com and give the resulting page here)
[07:00] <Quix86> SexyBoBo, timeout is already '10', would cmdline default having resume= in it be related to the system not giving me boot options?
[07:01] <Quix86> nevermind the resume is the swap file
[07:01] <echoe> oh. bleh.
[07:01] <echoe> do boot repair
[07:01] <echoe> see if that helps maybe
[07:01] <echoe> recovery mode could help as well.
[07:01] <echoe> my guess would be that something in the kernel messed up during the upgrade.
[07:04] <SexyBoBo> Quix86: is TIMEOUT_QUIET= set to true if so set it to false
[07:05] <Quix86> hidden timeout quiet is
[07:05] <KuuuuuuH> Help me to set route on 2 network. It for work and internet.
[07:05] <Quix86> what is grub_default?
[07:06] <SexyBoBo> thats which menu item it default boots too
[07:06] <SexyBoBo> 0 is the first item on the list and so on
[07:06] <Quix86> is there a way to select submenus with it?
[07:06] <robotdevil> is radeon hdmi audio turned off  by default in 13.04
[07:06] <Quix86> i.e. advanced options (2), and then the third option from that list?
[07:07] <blebaford> echoe: I'm making a bootable usb now... in the meantime what should I do in recovery mode?
[07:07] <echoe> can you boot into recovery mode completely?
[07:08] <echoe> what does it even do? i've never done it before lol. x.x I would run sudo apt-get update probably
[07:09] <blebaford> echoe: It gives me a menu with "resume, clean, dpkg (repair broken packages), failsafeX, fsck, grub (update grub bootloader), network, root, and system-summary
[07:09] <Quix86> if I remove all of the files related to a specific kernel version in /boot/ and update grub, it should effectively be removed as a boot option, correct?
[07:09] <echoe> oh
[07:09] <echoe> dpkg
[07:10] <echoe> repair those broken thingies
[07:10] <SexyBoBo> Quix86 you would need to purge the linux header using apt to get it to do it cleanly
[07:10] <Gumby> KuuuuuuH: what is the output of route -n (paste to pastebin.com and give the resulting page here)
[07:11] <Quix86> SexyBoBo, I just want to get it to boot the correct kernel so I can put on a race from my hot swap drive and sleep
[07:11] <Quix86> I don't care about doing it cleanly as long as it works
[07:11] <Ascavasaion> I ran an update a couple of days ago, and since then my wifi network connection keeps dying.  I cannot ping my ADSL router or anything outside of the network.  After a couple of minutes it automatically comes on again.  It does not affect any other computers on the network, so it is definitely an Ubuntu/lubuntu issue.
[07:14] <SexyBoBo> Quix86: dpkg --list | grep kernel-image
[07:14] <SexyBoBo> Quix86: will list all kernels installed then just apt-get remove kernel-image-xxx
[07:15] <Ascavasaion> It happened again...
[07:15] <Ascavasaion> I ran an update a couple of days ago, and since then my wifi network connection keeps dying.  I cannot ping my ADSL router or anything outside of the network.  After a couple of minutes it automatically comes on again.  It does not affect any other computers on the network, so it is definitely an Ubuntu/lubuntu issue.
[07:17] <SexyBoBo> Ascavasaion: Can you ping any computers on your network?
[07:17] <Quix86> I wonder why 3.6.3 won't mount my ultrabay drive anyway
[07:17] <Quix86> oh well
[07:17] <Quix86> ty SexyBoBo
[07:17] <Ascavasaion> SexyBoBo: When the wifi is up it does... but when wifi goes down no.
[07:18] <SexyBoBo> Ascavasaion: what wifi chip are you using?
[07:21] <Ascavasaion> It happened again!!!!
[07:21] <Ascavasaion> SexyBoBo: 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[07:21] <shmoon> i really need some help understanding union mount and stuff, can someone help me out ? where is `precise` http://pastie.org/7951723 ?
[07:24] <Laiquendi> Hey there! Can anybody tell me if after failing at running up my recompiled kernel i can still use the older ones listed in GRUB? Or does recompiling the latest influences somehow the older?
[07:24] <auronandace> Laiquendi: unless you removed them the kernels should still be available
[07:26] <Ascavasaion> It happened again!!!!
[07:26] <Ascavasaion> SexyBoBo: 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[07:26] <Laiquendi> auronandace: thanks!
[07:27] <Ascavasaion> I ran an update a couple of days ago, and since then my wifi network connection keeps dying.  I cannot ping my ADSL router or anything outside of the network.  After a couple of minutes it automatically comes on again.  It does not affect any other computers on the network, so it is definitely an Ubuntu/lubuntu issue.
[07:28] <SexyBoBo> Ascavasaion: do a uname -r and tell me what kernel your using
[07:29] <Name141> is there a way to get that Gnome2 classic look ?
[07:29] <Ascavasaion> 3.2.0-44-generic
[07:29] <xd> hallo
[07:30] <echoe> Name141, i believe you're looking for connamon
[07:30] <echoe> *cinnamon
[07:31] <layer3> [zeo] how do I install ubuntu with windows 8
[07:31] <Name141> echoe: Probably, is there an easy way to install it ? I don't think there is a 'cinnamon-desktop' ?
[07:31] <Ascavasaion> SexyBoBo: 3.2.0-44-generic
[07:32] <Quix86> Name141, it's not quite like gnome2 but I recommend looking into xfce and/or xubuntu
[07:32] <echoe> Name141, howtogeek is at the top of linux search results http://www.howtogeek.com/103691/install-linux-mints-new-cinnamon-desktop-on-ubuntu/
[07:32] <barbarian> HI
[07:32] <echoe> :P
[07:32] <Name141> Quix86: XFCE is OK.. but I'd rather have the classic gnome look
[07:32] <sawjig> Why do people reccomend XFCE when there is MATE
[07:33] <sawjig> if someone asks for gnome 2 why not tell them of the fork: Mate
[07:33] <Quix86> I prefer XFCE to MATE personally
[07:33] <Quix86> but it's not gnome
[07:33] <Ben64> because mate is not supported here
[07:33] <sawjig> Cinnamon is?
[07:33] <Ben64> nope
[07:33] <sawjig> ;)
[07:33] <sere> because mate break alot of gnome2 dep.
[07:33] <echoe> neither of them are!
[07:34] <echoe> cinnamon breaks alot of gnome2 as well i think maybe
[07:34] <echoe> but hey it kinda looks nice
[07:34] <Ben64> both can break ubuntu
[07:34] <Ben64> so its not recommended here
[07:34] <Quix86> unity broke ubuntu
[07:34] <Quix86> :p
[07:34]  * sawjig rolls eyes
[07:34] <echoe> throw caution to the wind!
[07:34] <scx> hello
[07:34] <Quix86> echoe get out of my room
[07:34] <Ascavasaion> I ran an update a couple of days ago, and since then my wifi network connection keeps dying.  I cannot ping my ADSL router or anything outside of the network.  After a couple of minutes it automatically comes on again.  It does not affect any other computers on the network, so it is definitely an Ubuntu/lubuntu issue.
[07:34] <echoe> apt-get install *
[07:35] <sawjig> Ben64, how exactly do they break ubuntu?
[07:35] <echoe> D:
[07:35] <Quix86> listening to my race
[07:35] <Quix86> no
[07:35] <scx> i am asking here because #english is not accessible:
[07:35] <Quix86> I'm supposed to be asleep anyway
[07:35] <echoe> what? :?
[07:35] <scx> is it corret?: "ss is a simple service that start and stop looped script"
[07:36] <Quix86> echoe you said something right about the same time the race commentator said the same thing
[07:36] <echoe> oh
[07:36] <echoe> ... i still don't ... well that's a ... weird ... coincidence
[07:37] <Quix86> echoe like I said get out of my room
[07:37] <Quix86> I'm trying to sleep
[07:37] <Ben64> Quix86: stop that
[07:37] <bazhang> Quix86, stop it
[07:37] <Quix86> stop highlighting me
[07:37] <auronandace> !info cinnamon | Ben64
[07:38] <sawjig> Ben64, how do mate or cinnamon break ubuntu?
[07:38] <Ben64> what when did that happen
[07:38] <Ben64> !info cinnamon precise
[07:38] <sere> !info mate
[07:38] <auronandace> Ben64: i think it was introduced with raring (i was rather surprised too)
[07:38] <Ben64> auronandace: well then i take back what i said about cinnamon (for raring at least)
[07:39] <echoe> sawjig, i believe they remove dependancies and etc. etc. they don't normally but of course they can.
[07:39] <sawjig> echoe, remove what dependencies?
[07:39] <Ben64> !ppa | sawjig
[07:40] <sawjig> Ben64, that doesn't answer anything.
[07:40] <Ben64> look at the part right after "WARNING"
[07:40] <sawjig> I'm curious as how a DE made by a distro that maintains almost complete upstream compatibility would break Ubuntu.
[07:40] <SexyBoBo> sawjig: It doesn't break anything it is just not supported
[07:40] <bazhang> sawjig, lets move on
[07:40] <sawjig> SexyBoBo, oh, okay, so there we get the answer ;D
[07:41] <sawjig> "Ben64 both can break ubuntu"
[07:41] <Ben64> yes, please look up the definition of "can"
[07:41] <sawjig> I wanted to know what they break.
[07:41] <echoe> sawjig, gedit can break ubuntu. everything can
[07:41] <sere> sawjig: research it!
[07:41] <bazhang> !ot | sawjig
[07:41] <sawjig> echoe, I was quoting Ben64 ...
[07:42] <sawjig> bazhang, this is support related, chill out.
[07:42] <bazhang> sawjig, its way past that. take the chit chat elsewhere
[07:42] <sawjig> bazhang, quit chit chatting with me please that wasn't a support related question.
[07:43] <echoe> sawjig, i know. i was just clarifying. ... which is basically what ben said with the definitino of can.
[07:43] <sawjig> lets keep the signal to noise on signal bazhang
[07:43] <sere> mut!
[07:44] <auronandace> sawjig: are you trying to get cinnamon working on 13.04?
[07:44] <sawjig> auronandace, no I have it running fine.
[07:44] <CKLMN> i have a problem , when im on the internet all the others in my network have internet issues , do u know why is that ?
[07:44] <sawjig> auronandace, I just hink it's wrong to tell people it's going to break your machine.
[07:44] <CKLMN> this happens only on ubuntu
[07:44] <auronandace> sawjig: then what is your support issue?
[07:45] <echoe> CKLMN, what kind of issues? they aren't able to connect? how old is your install? i would assume you are monopoloziing the connection or something
[07:45] <sawjig> I can't get my /ignore function to work properly
[07:45] <sawjig>  /ignore Ben64 doesn't work
[07:45] <sancho21> Hello
[07:45] <auronandace> sawjig: /join #freenode
[07:46] <Name141> gnome session fallback isn't like Gnome 2/
[07:46] <Name141> ?
[07:46] <tasslehoff> Any good tools to get better control over windows in unity? I come from xmonad, and miss my tiled windows :)
[07:46] <sere> CKLMN: 1.) check your route table, 2.) iwconfig " make sure it all right "
[07:46] <CKLMN> echoe, ubuntu 13.04 the issues are disconnecting and reconnecting , also slow connection
[07:47] <echoe> do what sere said they are good at ideas!
[07:47] <CKLMN> how do i check rout tble?
[07:47] <sere> CKLMN: if your router has a log check that aswell..
[07:48] <CKLMN> also the strange thing is that im on ethernet
[07:48] <CKLMN> im not even on wifi
[07:48] <barbarian> Hi guys I need a help with MATE desktop
[07:48] <sere> CKLMN: ifconfig then
[07:48] <lasers> Name141: Not at all. Similar. If you want Gnome2-ish experience... You might like XFCE.
[07:48] <SexyBoBo> barbarian: #mate
[07:48] <adeebnqo> I'm having issues with Xorg, everytime I log into my PC it always opens two windows. The windows are a terminal and evince window-- it's sorta opening a session I had two weeks ago. How can solve that --- sorta restart it?
[07:49] <ace> is there an easy way to know if a RAID is active on my ubuntu server? i think it s a hardware raid (nothing with mdadm)
[07:50] <barbarian> SexyBoBo: yea I know but nobody there respond
[07:50] <Name141> lasers: Did they ever do Xubuntu LTS ?
[07:50] <SexyBoBo> ace: If it is hardware RAID it would be very hard to detect from the OS.
[07:50] <sere> CKLMN:  see if your ip. is getting bounced or making more stops than it should
[07:51] <Name141> I know there was one that didn't have an LTS
[07:51] <ace> SexyBoBo: i tried in dmesg but i don't find anything
[07:51] <CKLMN> sere , every thing seems fine in the ifconfig
[07:51] <lasers> Name141: I'm feeling Lucky -- http://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release/
[07:51] <CKLMN> but i also have a friend with the same problem when he is using proprietory drivers
[07:51] <CKLMN> maybe bug or smthing ?
[07:52] <CKLMN> i also used wireshark and all seems fine
[07:52] <SexyBoBo> ace: hardware RAID will show up as if it were a single HDD I am guessing it is a remote server otherwise i would tell you to look at it.
[07:53] <swiss> tasslehoff: i haven't seen anything that'd do that
[07:53] <Name141> lasers: must have been Lubuntu then
[07:53] <sprezzatura> are there any side effects that i need to keep in mind if i have to disable iptables?
[07:53] <swiss> ace: what does smartd say about the hdds?
[07:53] <swiss> or hdd
[07:54] <ace> swiss: smartd is a deamon? how to use it?
[07:54] <sere> CKLMN:  yea i could be a bug... can you check your router log?
[07:55] <CKLMN> i cant find it , i will try again though
[07:55] <swiss> ace: smartctl
[07:55] <swiss> do you have it installed?
[07:56] <ace> swiss: oh interesting
[07:56] <ace> swiss: it says no smart, but detect a SMC2108
[07:56] <swiss> that's a raid card
[07:56] <ace> yep
[07:56] <swiss> i'm guessing you have a raid
[07:56] <swiss> what type of raid and all that, no clue
[07:56] <ace> now i have to find a tool to have info about this raid
[07:56] <SexyBoBo> ace: i am also wondering how you have a server that you don't know if it has a raid in it
[07:56] <ace> swiss: thanks for the help
[07:57] <fishcooker1> i wanto make a webhosting for multiuser
[07:58] <blebaford> echoe: ran boot repair and nothing is fixed... looks like my only regress may be to reinstall.
[07:58] <sere> CKLMN: what do u get with route
[07:58] <swiss> ace: no problem
[07:58] <New2Ubuntu> Anyone have a good thread on how to get unity 3d to work on 12.4.2 lts
[07:58] <CKLMN> sere, router log was disabled so no log
[07:59] <CKLMN> sere, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5696209/ my ifconfig
[07:59] <sere> CKLMN: ah ok
[07:59] <CKLMN> sere, if u see anything strange tell me
[08:00] <toni_> hi
[08:00] <echoe> blebaford, :(. you may want t otry reinstallign the kernels
[08:00] <CKLMN> sere, to me it seems ok
[08:00] <echoe> not sure if this will break anything would ask other people in room.
[08:00] <blebaford> echoe: you mean like in recovery mode?
[08:02] <sere> CKLMN: ifconfig looks ok to me.. hmm
[08:02] <lasers> I don't know anything about ipv6 but am I seeing two active leases?
[08:02] <blebaford> echoe: I'll come back to this tomorrow, thanks for trying!
[08:02] <Phryq> is there a variety of blutooth programs, or just the few that come up when I search bluetooth in the software centre?
[08:04] <Phryq> and separate issue, anyone ever tried ganyremote? would it allow my windows phone to be used as a remote for ubuntu?
[08:05] <Ben64> why not use some ssh client
[08:06] <Phryq> ssh client?
[08:06] <Ben64> yeah, would give you a terminal on your phone
[08:06] <echoe> blebaford, no, not recovery mode
[08:07] <echoe> I mean like dkms list |grep kernel and then sudo apt-get remove [kernel name] and sudo apt-get install [kernel name]
[08:07] <echoe> i've never done this before myself though, as i said
[08:07] <Phryq> I don't understand; why would I want a terminal on my phone?
[08:07] <IraFunesta> rain
[08:07] <Ben64> Phryq: to... remotely control ubuntu. isn't that what you wanted?
[08:08] <echoe> so i would perhaps have someone who has or who knows more about ubuntu's setup just okay the idea. i have been using ubuntu seriously for a week now lol.
[08:08] <Phryq> yes. I don't see how I would do that using a terminal on my phone. I'm pretty newb
[08:08] <sere> CKLMN: have you been downloading alot recentl? 2.3 gigs?
[08:08] <kion> still having problems getting wireless internet on computer
[08:08] <echoe> Phryq, you control ubuntu in the terminal
[08:09] <CKLMN> sere, i dont think i downloaded a lot no
[08:09] <Ben64> there isn't much that can't be done from a terminal in linux
[08:09] <Phryq> ok, but would I be able to control ubuntu graphically?
[08:09] <echoe> i assume you can ssh [username]@[ip]
[08:09] <Phryq> ya, but I suck with terminal
[08:09] <echoe> not through a terminal! maybe ascii graphics
[08:09] <Ben64> why would you need graphics? its much slower. but you could do that with a vnc client, and a vnc server on ubuntu
[08:09] <echoe> someone needs to make that! that would be so hilarious
[08:09] <echoe> vnc ascii client.
[08:09] <sere> CKLMN: in your ifconfig its should 2.3 gig as being download..
[08:09] <CKLMN> sere,sry i just remembered , i downloaded a movies 1.4 gb so eah ;p
[08:10] <kion> anyone know how to get wireless to work on linux
[08:10] <cave2596> maybe
[08:10] <sere> CKLMN: ahh oh ok.. yea i can do  2.3 pretty quick myself :p
[08:10] <echoe> kion, connect to a wireless router :P
[08:10] <kion> it won't even show one
[08:10] <CKLMN> sere,;p
[08:10] <kion> it doesn't reconize the wireless chip
[08:11] <barbarian> hello, I got ubuntu 13.04 command-line + i've installed MATE and got problem with x-caja-desktop window anyone could help me ?
[08:11] <Ben64> kion: which wireless chip
[08:11] <Ben64> barbarian: we don't support mate here, sorry
[08:11] <echoe> you may want to check for restricted drivers keon.
[08:11] <kion> broadcom 4311 802.11 b/g
[08:12] <Ben64> !broadcom | kion
[08:12] <Ben64> i'd recommend buying a cheap usb wireless that works with ubuntu :D
[08:12] <Mithran> hai how can i hide the bootable files of my usb
[08:12] <kion> it does work ben they have the drivers you can download
[08:12] <kion> because well i have the same chip on this computer i am online with
[08:13] <Ben64> easier to get a not broadcom in my opinion
[08:13] <kion> but on the computer i am working on the chip will not be recognized
[08:13] <Mithran> hai how can i hide the bootable files on my usb Drive
[08:13] <echoe> ohh
[08:13] <kion> it was not choosen the computer was given to them
[08:13] <Ben64> Mithran: don't repeat so fast, and more details would help
[08:13] <Mithran> Am using raring ring tail
[08:13] <echoe> kion, yeah downloading the restricted drivers works fine
[08:13] <echoe> from what i remember
[08:13] <echoe> i had a broadcom ... somethin'
[08:13] <Ben64> kion: then look at the link the bot gave
[08:13] <kion> i did download them and all it did was stop even the wired connection from going through
[08:14] <kion> i have and i have been all over the net including every link everyone else who was here that couldn't help gave me
[08:14] <Ben64> then... buy a cheap usb wireless that works out of the box with linux
[08:14] <kion> trust me if i could have fixed it myself i would not be here wasting time
[08:14] <kion> the person can not afford a usb wireless
[08:15] <bazhang> !enter | kion
[08:15] <Mithran> Ben64: i just created a startup disk now i want to hide the bootale files can you plz help me
[08:15] <Ben64> if its taking hours of your time to try to get it working, wouldn't you save time, and therefore money to buy them one?
[08:15] <kion> no one has money to buy one
[08:15] <Ben64> Mithran: i don't think you can
[08:16] <Ben64> kion: $10 is too much?
[08:16] <kion> yes sadly enough
[08:16] <Mithran> Ben64:  hmmm ok Thank You
[08:16] <sere> kion: does lspci show the correct info
[08:16] <Mithran> any body Know
[08:16] <sere>  Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless?
[08:17] <bazhang> !anyone | Mithran
[08:17] <kion> yes it does and broadcom corpartion BCM4311 802.11b/g wireless
[08:18] <Mithran> how to hide the bootable files in a usb drive
[08:18] <sere> kion: lsmod and look for bcma                   39645  1 brcmsmac
[08:18] <boydoy> any idea about helpdesk system and you can recommend to open source
[08:19] <kion> ok one moment
[08:19] <boydoy> and easy to setup with email support
[08:20] <bazhang> Mithran, why would you need to do that
[08:20] <bazhang> boydoy, ubuntu kiosk you mean?
[08:21] <boydoy> i think yes
[08:21] <Mithran> bazhang: i want my portable OS asllas the usb could be used for the ordinary purpose
[08:21] <k1l_> bazhang: i think he means some ticket-support system
[08:21] <kion> there is no bcma
[08:21] <bazhang> k1l_, he seems unsure
[08:21] <k1l_> Mithran: you cant hide the bootable files
[08:22] <Mithran> bazhang: When i am opening the usb there i can see all the bootable files and feels messed
[08:22] <bazhang> Mithran, you want a persistent usb? or want to dual use the usb OS installer with a data usb stick: Which one
[08:22] <k1l_> Mithran: either you make a new folder for your data or you make another partition which is for data (im not sure if the data partition will corrupt the live system)
[08:23] <bazhang> Mithran, yeah, thats not possible
[08:23] <Gumby> boydoy: I've looked briefly into OTRS, it seemed like it could do the job well
[08:23] <Mithran> bazhang: k1l_ ok Thanks alot
[08:23] <boydoy> ok but its so hard for me GUMBY to setup
[08:23] <sere> kion: sudo modprobe bcma and modprobe brcmsmac
[08:24] <foo357> Hello, I have a computer running 12.04 LTS where I need to build the network card driver, when I run make I get a complaint about asm/system.h missing, how should I solve this? I don't even have a include/asm directory, only asm-generic
[08:24] <Mithran> bazhang: how can i hide an ordinary file using ubuntu?
[08:24] <kion> ok
[08:24] <bazhang> Mithran, make it a dotfile?
[08:24] <Mithran> ok
[08:24] <Gumby> boydoy: well, just remember this.  nothing is free.  you're going to have to pay in currency, or with your time.  possibly both
[08:24] <kion> it did not pull up anything
[08:25] <robotdevil>  geez, would it be good to know that the open source radeon drivers have had audio disabled by default for awhile  :-(
[08:25] <sere> kion: lsmod and see if it loaded the modules
[08:26] <kion> it did
[08:26] <kion> now what?
[08:27] <sere> kion: iwconfig and see if your interface is up
[08:27] <sere> wlan0 or ath0
[08:27] <kion> oh i found the bcma it says 1 brcmsmac
[08:27] <kion> ok
[08:27] <kion> it says no wireless extensions
[08:28] <sere> kion: ifconfig?
[08:28] <sere> kion: we need to bring that interface up
[08:29] <boydoy> ok.. Thank you for reply
[08:29] <boydoy> i try again
[08:29] <kion> it says link encap:local loopback inet addr etc
[08:30] <arief> ?
[08:30] <kion> is that the interface you mean
[08:30] <luca___> Hi All. I'm using the latest Xubuntu and can't get into my sound settings. Can anyone help? Thanks.
[08:30] <sere> kion: yea but its not there
[08:30] <echoe_> if you are trying to connect over the internet to local loopback you're gonna have a bad time.
[08:31] <sere> kion: run : ip addr
[08:31] <kion> ok
[08:31] <sere> kion: you should see 1 lo 2 eth0 3. wlan0
[08:32] <kion> it says 1:lo: <loopback,up,lower_up> and other things but not either one of those you named
[08:33] <sere> kion: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[08:33] <kion> error while getting interface flags
[08:33] <kion> no such device*
[08:33] <sere> thought so :x
[08:33] <kion> now what
[08:37] <sere> kion: check your logs for errors.
[08:37] <kion> how
[08:37] <sere> kion: cd /var/log/
[08:38] <kion> it didnt do anything or show anything
[08:39] <kion> i suppose it added /var/log$ to the end of the name
[08:39] <sere> kion: go into that directory /var/log/
[08:40] <kion> ok
[08:40] <kion> now what
[08:40] <sere> kion: open dmseg with your favorite editor
[08:41] <kion> ok
[08:41] <sere> kion: can you paste bin that please
[08:41] <kion> paste bin that?
[08:41] <kion> you mean paste it in here?
[08:42] <k1l_> !pastebin | kion
[08:45] <kion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5696310/
[08:46] <sere> kion: ty :)
[08:46] <kion> welcome
[08:48] <k1l_> there is a kernel bug with the wifi drivers. (see the strace in that paste)
[08:49] <k1l_> kion: read that one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2126408
[08:50] <sere> [  112.366454] dhclient[1868]: segfault at 304 ip b73e9b29 sp bfb20a50 error 4 in libc-2.17.so[b73a1000+1ad000]
[08:50] <k1l_> (the solution starts from comment 4 )
[08:50] <k1l_> sere: see line 708 in the paste
[08:50] <guest1> Hello guys
[08:51] <sere> wl driver 6.20.155.1 (r326264) failed with code 21
[08:51] <sere> aah i missed that one :)
[08:52] <sere> k1l_: gj :)
[08:52] <k1l_> :)
[08:52] <guest1> I just want to ask if it is sum bug in ubuntu 13.04, I have recent problems with FileZilla, and Skype which are freezing and only way to kill it is kill -9
[08:54] <kion> i can not install anything because when  i install the drivers for wireless it for some reason uninstalls the wired
[08:55] <IraFunesta> kion, try to install the driver and after reinstal the wired
[08:55] <k1l_> kion: can you pastebin a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[08:55] <kion> sure
[08:58] <sere> is this a 12.4 bug?
[08:59] <kion> it is 13.04
[09:00] <sere> oh ok
[09:00] <kion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5696346/
[09:01] <KuuuuuuH> Hey , why ilm use route add command it show me inet_route when i use it it told me command not found
[09:03] <sere> KuuuuuuH: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/route.8.html
[09:05] <kion> is that what you needed k1l
[09:07] <vitimiti> hi o/
[09:09] <dr_willis> moo
[09:09] <kion> sere can you find anything out with what i sent?
[09:10] <nube> how can I brign up the HUD?
[09:10] <savagecroc> i just installed ubuntu from usb. it asked me to remove the bootable media, so i removed the usb.  On reboot it complains it can not boot off the SSD. any idea what went wrong?
[09:10] <sere> kion: well it looks like your having trouble fetching some repo's but not sure if it relates
[09:10] <savagecroc> i changed the boot priorities to boot of the SSD instead of the USB
[09:10] <kion> is there a way to fix that
[09:11] <dr_willis> taping the 'alt' key triggers the Hub.
[09:11] <dr_willis> HuD
[09:12] <k1l_> kion: that is not good. please pastebin the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:12] <kion> ok
[09:12] <savagecroc> dr_willis: that seemed to work
[09:13] <sere> kion: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[09:13] <savagecroc> ah nah.. it just booted of the usb
[09:13] <dr_willis> press and holding the super key should bring up a list of keyboard shortcuts
[09:14] <savagecroc> ok when the computer boots i just get "Reboot and Select proper Boot Device"
[09:14] <savagecroc> i've already finishd the installation
[09:14] <savagecroc> i'd expect to be able to boot from the USB disk now
[09:14] <kion> i can
[09:14] <kion> i can not there is nothing there
[09:15] <nube> how do I get the HUD to work with different web apps
[09:15] <nube> if I press alt it just goes to firefox
[09:15] <sere> where?
[09:15] <kion> my keyboard is not typing some of the keys correctly
[09:15] <alocer> savagecroc: how did u make the flash ?
[09:15] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:15] <kion> there is nothing under sources.list.d
[09:15] <cristian_c> There is a mysterious problem with my laptop. I mean, when I run the suspension, after the restore there are problems. The first of which is that the Chromium browser will no longer open (but it also does with Chrome) and if you launch it from the terminal, an error is returned
[09:15] <savagecroc> alacor: using the command utility dd on OSX following the guides on the ubuntu official website
[09:15] <sere> kion: just sources.list
[09:15] <kion> there is nothing there
[09:15] <cristian_c> Also, when I try to logout or reboot the pc freezes, meaning that when I try to restart, the screen goes black and hangs there indefinitely (in the case of the log, it appears the shell with the messages, but it hangs too) and I have to brutally shut down the pc
[09:16] <kion> there is a folder when i click on the folder there is nothing there
[09:16] <savagecroc> i then created an ext4 partition of 200gb with mount point / and a swap partition of 2gb.  I then selected the ext4 partition to install too
[09:16] <cristian_c> I tried several solutions, from uswsusp to tuxonice, to create a special file in /etc/pm/config.d/, but these attempts have not been successful. I also checked the syslog, but also did not provide significant information about the origin of the problem
[09:16] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:16] <sere> kion: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:16] <kion> yeah there is nothing there
[09:17] <nube> Is this a bug?
[09:17] <kion> there is not sources.list only sources.listd
[09:17] <alocer> Did you made a live usb or install linux on your usb ? savagecroc
[09:17] <savagecroc> install disk
[09:17] <savagecroc> and then i ran through the usb
[09:17] <savagecroc> sorry the install process
[09:17] <sere> kion: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[09:17] <dr_willis> you should definatly have a file named sources.list   but i think sources.list.d/ dir3ectroy is empty by default
[09:17] <savagecroc> which took about 30 mins
[09:17] <savagecroc> mostly downloading stuff
[09:18] <kion> what is that link
[09:18] <pauldunn> is it ok to backup my mysql db every 10 minutes or will it cause issues?
[09:18] <sere> kion: it generates a new sources.list for you
[09:19] <pauldunn> currently I have a cron doing it every hour but thats not enough
[09:19] <alocer> Sry i cant help savagecroc
[09:19] <k1l_> kion: can you show that pastbin? "ls -al /etc/apt/
[09:19] <k1l_> "
[09:19] <kion> ill try
[09:20] <nube> How do I use webapps?
[09:20] <pauldunn> does no one backup there db that often :p
[09:20] <nube> with the HUD
[09:21] <dr_willis> nube: hud menu stuff dosent work with all apps.. i cant say ive ever seen  a webapp that uses a menu relally..
[09:21] <nube> dr_willis: I was watching a videe on youtube that showed in working with a bunch of apps that I have
[09:21] <dr_willis> since the webapps are running in a browser. it would show the browsers menus. but i think those may be disabled for wehbapps
[09:21] <nube> facebook, gmail, google docs, reddit
[09:22] <dr_willis> i can barely get webapps to work at all.. its just a flakey  setup last ive tried it
[09:23] <kion> when i typed that it i see scources.list in white
[09:23] <nube> ok
[09:23] <k1l_> kion: please show us the pastebin
[09:23] <nube> so it is broken
[09:24] <nube> I have another problem
[09:24] <nube> I have a dual monitor set up
[09:24] <k1l_> kion: we need all the informations, we cant see what you see
[09:24] <nube> I want to extend the display over both monitors
[09:24] <nube> but every time I restart my computer, it resets to cloning the display
[09:24] <savagecroc> I have another problem, and setting up my OS is one
[09:24] <nube> why?
[09:24] <dr_willis> nube:  what video card/chipset?
[09:24] <nube> AMD
[09:25] <nube> I change the setting in the AMD control panel
[09:25] <dr_willis> well for my nvidia - i run the nvidia-settings tool and set things u[p as root. then save the changes to the system xorg.conf file
[09:25] <dr_willis> ive not messed with ati in ages
[09:25] <nube> I go to the administrative (root) controkl panel
[09:25] <nube> change the setting, click apply
[09:25] <nube> and it works
[09:25] <nube> but when I restart, it's back to cloned
[09:26] <dr_willis> look for some save to xorg.conf/config perhaps is all i can suggest.
[09:26] <nube> sigh
[09:26] <nube> Installed Ubuntu yesterday
[09:26] <nube> took about 2h to get the graphics actually working properly
[09:26] <nube> more and more bugs
[09:26] <dr_willis> users can also have their own settings that override the system defaults. does the Login screen  work properly? or is it cloned
[09:27]  * dr_willis has spend weeks getting wondows working properly
[09:27] <nube> think it's cloned but I can check
[09:27] <nube> bnbrb
[09:27] <kion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5696417/
[09:28] <sere> nube: i had put xrandr in my fluxbox startup if your not using it probably xinitrc. will workk
[09:28] <k1l_> kion: now do a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and show that please
[09:28] <k1l_> (in a pastebin)
[09:29] <nube_> No, the login screen is not cloned
[09:29] <nube_> one of the screens is different
[09:30] <dr_willis> nube_:  its possible  you may need to run the ati settings tool ass your user. and set up the desktops how you want.  the user may have somehow set them to be cloned. s thats overrideing the system settings
[09:31] <dr_willis> you could also test this by making a brand new user and see what they default to.
[09:31] <nube_> ass my user?
[09:31] <nube_> I am the only user on ths computer
[09:31] <nube_> there is only one account
[09:31] <snikker> what setting i must change for give an user to access to another user directory?
[09:31] <nube_> this is a fresh install of ubunti I installed last night
[09:31] <dr_willis> RUN the setting tool as your user... see if they can make changes for  that specific user
[09:31] <kion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5696424/
[09:32] <dr_willis> the user can have settings that override the system settings
[09:32] <nube_> If I run it as user
[09:32] <nube_> it says "to make changes you must run as admin
[09:32] <nube_> and I can't change anything
[09:32] <dr_willis> try the monitors tool perhaps , not the  ati config tool.
[09:32] <dr_willis> or is it called 'displays' now?
[09:34] <nube_> brb
[09:34] <Snowie> howdy all. Was their a flash update or something? Videos in the steam client are now magically playing perfectly, where before the were magically not playing
[09:35] <sere> Snowie: i believe a few days ago.
[09:35] <Snowie> sere: thats awesome. yeah i have been a bit behind on the updates. Well that rocks. Glad to hear it. cheers
[09:37] <sere> im off to bed...good night all
[09:37] <kion> goodnight
[09:37] <k1l_> kion: you use a proxy or smth?
[09:37] <kion> i do not know
[09:37] <sere> gl kion :)
[09:37] <kion> thank you sere
[09:38] <adeebnqo> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[09:38] <Peanut> Err.. my machine has a 1 minute load-average of 11 (and increasing..) but is 99.8% idle according to top. It's hung in 'processing triggers for gconf2' while doing an "apt-get update". Bit odd..
[09:38] <k1l_> kion: please open the softwarecenter, go to edit-software sources and change in the settings from the us-servers to the main servers.
[09:38] <kion> ok
[09:40] <Peanut> Oops, seems I'm running into a scheduling kernel bug? [   37.279383] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffff8801f0dfc000 and then an 'oops SMP'
[09:41] <kion> done
[09:41] <k1l_> kion: no try the apt-get update again
[09:41] <k1l_> kion: you need to fix that issue to make sure you can install the proper wifi driver
[09:42] <k1l_> kion: but i have to leave now for some time :/
[09:42] <kion> ok
[09:42] <kion> i will try thank you
[09:43] <tata_> what is name and how to install "net monitors", it is 2 little blue monitors in the panel
[09:44] <xrfang> I am running 13.04 on a macmini, my wifi adapter cannot use channel 13, is there any solution to this? google results didn't help...
[09:45] <MickS> tata_: gnome-system-monitor
[09:46] <R0b0t1> I'm using gedit and am unable to highlight text.
[09:48] <tado> hey all. i am trying to fix my spell checker and thesaurus on libreoffice, so that it can distinguish US and GB english, but it's giving me a big headache... anyone can help?
[09:48] <tado> i've found lots online  but none seems to work..
[09:49] <tata_> Micks: I didnt find gnome-system-monitor in the Ubuntu Software Center
[09:50] <snikker> what is the max numbers of "mount --bind" in fstab?
[09:55] <tado> anyone can help me teach my libreoffice-writer that color is spelled wrong in british english?
[10:06] <stat_vi> tado: Tools > Language > For all Text - and then select "English (UK)" ?
[10:07] <tado> stat_vi: yes, the problem is that it still considers valid most american spellings, like color vs colour or theater vs theatre
[10:07] <tado> stat_vi: i had it fixed before and it worked, now i have downgraded to 3.6 from 4 because it crashed, and it broke again
[10:08] <stat_vi> tado: Okay... then you might consider asking in #libreoffice
[10:08] <tado> stat_vi: landed there now :)
[10:19] <fishcooker1> how to add user without give detail about the full name n others?
[10:21] <jrib> fishcooker1: just press enter without filling those fields in
[10:25] <dnivra> Hello. I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 and when I run pip, I get the following error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5696519/. I installed pip by installing python-pip package and so I think it's probably a configuration issue in the package? An internet search says something might be wrong with setuptools but reinstalling python-setuptools doesn't help. Is someone else facing the same issue?
[10:26] <jrib> dnivra: ls /usr/local/
[10:27] <dnivra> What should I be looking for in /usr/local?
[10:27] <jrib> dnivra: what was the output?
[10:27] <dnivra> The directories in that particular folder.
[10:28] <dnivra> should I pastebin the output?
[10:28] <jrib> dnivra: what's in /usr/local/bin/ ?
[10:28] <frizianz> Hey guys, I've got a VM which had full disk encryption which i'm wanting to add a secondary disk to it with again full disk encryption. Anyone have any guides or howtos for this? Basically I'd like it to automount at boot etc
[10:28] <dnivra> jrib: No such directory.
[10:28] <gordonjcp> dnivra: a quick Google turned up this -> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7446187/no-module-named-pkg-resources
[10:28] <gordonjcp> dnivra: so it looks like you're right about setuptools
[10:29] <gordonjcp> dnivra: are you using virtualenv?
[10:30] <dnivra> gordonjcp: No python-virtualenv is not installed.
[10:30] <jrib> dnivra: sure, paste the output you got from « ls /usr/local/ ».  Also, what's the result of « readlink -f $(which pip) »?
[10:32] <dnivra> jrib: Output of both commands: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5696537/.
[10:33] <jrib> dnivra: « /usr/bin/python -c 'import pkg_resources' » what happens?
[10:33] <dnivra> Has any recent update been made to python-pip or python-setuptools(or any package that might cause a problem) in 12.04? I'm using a local caching server which might be slightly behind official servers.
[10:34] <dnivra> jrib: The same error as pip - "ImportError: No module named pkg_resources"
[10:34] <dnivra> Hmmm so probably it's just a missing package?
[10:34] <jrib> !info python-pkg-resources lucid
[10:35] <jrib> dnivra: is that package installed?
[10:35] <dnivra> Funny - python-pkg-resources is installed.
[10:35] <jrib> dnivra: dpkg -L python-pkg-resources
[10:35] <jrib> (on pastebin)
[10:36] <dnivra> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5696541/
[10:36] <jrib> dnivra: /usr/bin/python -c 'import sys; print sys.path'
[10:37] <jrib> dnivra: also verify that /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py (and .pyc) actually exist
[10:40] <dnivra> jrib: so the path(/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages) does exist in sys.path but you guessed right - the py and pyc files don't.
[10:40] <dnivra> am reinstalling that package now.
[10:42] <elky> is there a way to stop middle click opening a new instance of programs? i'm quite fed up with this
[10:43] <anew> do i need to set any mx records for ubuntu ? or will sendmail work without setting that
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> anew: I'd ask in the sendmail channel too :)
[10:44] <dnivra> jrib: thanks a lot for the help! It's working now :)
[10:44] <anew> oh didnt know they had a channel
[10:44] <jrib> dnivra: no problem
[10:44] <dnivra> gordonjcp: you too!
[10:52] <superdylan1000> ciao
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> anew: most apps have a channel :)
[11:00] <robotdevil> Do I really have to create a xorg.conf file just to reenable crt alt backspace to reset xsever? 13.04
[11:01] <Dr_willis> robotdevil,  i thoughbnt there was a setting in the system settings  to enable that feature
[11:01] <Dr_willis> i forget where.  under some keyboard settings i recall
[11:01] <Dr_willis> !nozap
[11:01] <Dr_willis> !dontzap
[11:01] <Dr_willis> cant find the factoid either
[11:02] <robotdevil> oh ok, hmmm wonder if there is an option in kde too?
[11:02] <Dr_willis> askubuntu.com should know where its at
[11:02] <DJones> Dr_willis: That was deleted about 12 months ago
[11:02] <Dr_willis> DJones,  :()  shows how often i use it.
[11:02] <robotdevil> not on gnome machine right now
[11:04] <robotdevil> it really hard to figure to explain to someone right alt the key that says sysrq but doesnt actually say sysrq and k :-/
[11:05] <Dr_willis> none of my keys on this keyboard say sysreq
[11:05]  * robotdevil also understands why it got changed too
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: isnt it in keyboard settings?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: http://ubuntuportal.com/2011/11/how-to-enable-key-sequence-ctrlaltbackspace-to-kill-server-on-ubuntu-11-10.html
[11:05] <DJones> robotdevil: Dr_willis System Settings, Keyboard Layout, Options, Key sequence to kill the X server (tick box)
[11:06] <robotdevil> not on gnome machine right now, why just asking about the xorg thing
[11:06] <robotdevil> was*
[11:06] <DJones> Thats on a normal Ubuntu install
[11:06] <robotdevil> ok
[11:07] <robotdevil> or unity or whatever lawl
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: unity is a shell for Gnome
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: Unity doesn't replace Gnome
[11:08] <robotdevil> right
[11:08] <robotdevil> thanks
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: look in the menu in the top righ tfor settings, then folow that guide I pasted which you could have found yourself online
[11:12] <jindal> hello
[11:12] <robotdevil> I thought older versions of ubuntu have an xorg so I thought the sites were dated and you had to create new xorg Section"ServerFlags"  Option          "DontZap"               "false"
[11:13] <Dr_willis> X has not really needed an xorg.conf for quiet some time.
[11:13] <Dr_willis> it WILL use it - if it exists
[11:13] <Dr_willis> my nvidia system have a minimal xorg.conf to enable twinview.. actually im not even sure if thats needed any more.
[11:13] <manime> How you can earn up to a day with NO REFERRALS! http://1onedollarperday.blogspot.com/
[11:14] <DJones> manime: Please don't spam
[11:14] <Dr_willis> I want to earn 'up to a day!
[11:14] <Dr_willis>  :P
[11:14] <muindor> hey all
[11:14] <cfhowlett> manime, take your spam away
[11:14] <robotdevil> right was just illustrating why I asked, since enabled crt alt backspace 13.04 doesnt give new results
[11:14] <foo357> Hello, I need to build the drivers for my network card, when I try to compile I get errors about not being able to find system headers (files that should be found in /asm and /linux)
[11:14] <Dr_willis> !headers
[11:14] <robotdevil> everything is 11.10 and back
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> robotdevil: older and newer versions stll use xorg, there is talk of using Mir or Wayland later
[11:15] <messer> quit
[11:16] <robotdevil> ok
[11:16] <Dr_willis> will be interesting to see how mir and wayland work out..
[11:16] <muindor> i have a linux server here behind my fw. it has 2 network cards for local network. im using for my local network 192.168.1.0 , now i want on the other interface the network 192.168.2.0 and attach WLAN to it so ppl can use it without seeing my priovate network (192.168.1.0) but can still use internet
[11:16] <ubuntunewb> anyone around?
[11:16] <robotdevil> think I read something about them awhile ago
[11:16] <muindor> or anything else i have to do ?
[11:17] <ubuntunewb> I just ordered a thinkpad x201 gonna put 8 gigs of ram in it and a 256gb SSD. Does it automatically have sata3 and also will ubuntu run ok on this? I was considering 12.04 because the dell xps 13 has that and I am trying to learn to program.
[11:17] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewb, that's plenty ... but why not just get the dell sputnik?
[11:18] <foo357> Dr_willis: when I do an 'apt cache search' on linux-headers-(version) I get a result "t x86 SMP"
[11:18] <Dr_willis> foo357,  i dont code.. i just know the factoid.
[11:18] <ubuntunewb> I like teh way the thinkpad looks and how durable it is
[11:20] <mix123> hi, im on 12.04 what does "dependency is not satisfiable python 2.6" mean?
[11:21] <starbuck> hello, how can i transfer files with nautilus between 2 pc's connected through a crossover cable? what software do i need to install? the 2 pc's are running debian and ubuntu
[11:22] <Dr_willis> starbuck,   plug in cables set up static ips  or set up a dhcp server on one.. then use any networking service/method you want.. ssh, scp. samba, nfs
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:23] <starbuck> Dr_willis: did all the prerequisites, but i want to use a file manager e.g. nautilus to do the transfer
[11:23] <Dr_willis> starbuck,  and nautilus can use ssh/scp/sftp/samba or access a nfs share...
[11:24] <Dr_willis> you install the services you want it to use
[11:24] <Dr_willis> ssh/scp/sshfs would be the most straight forward. but perhaps not the fastest
[11:24] <starbuck> Dr_willis: that's my next question: which one is the fastest?
[11:25] <starbuck> Dr_willis: i try to avoid samba... never was happy with it
[11:25] <Kartagis> I have a USB device mounted at /media/$LOGIN/somelogstring. I shared a directory in this USB drive with guest ok = yes in smb.conf, and I gave the necessary permissions. but, no guest is able to access.
[11:25] <Kartagis> any ideas?
[11:25] <Dr_willis> Kartagis,  what FS is on the usb device?
[11:26] <mikejw> anyone know how I can enable cron for a user in lucid?
[11:26] <Kartagis> Dr_willis: reiserfs
[11:26] <cfhowlett> mikejw, lucid is end of life.  time to upgrade
[11:26] <cfhowlett> !luckd
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !lucid
[11:27] <mikejw> cfhowlett: I would I could
[11:27] <starbuck> Dr_willis: thank you, i jsut use ssh
[11:27] <starbuck> easy
[11:28] <Dr_willis> Kartagis,  Hmm..  cant say ive messed with reiserfs..   You could mount the device somewhere via fstab. and set up a samba share for it  in the  samba config files
[11:28] <ezra-s> cfhowlett, you are telling someone to upgrade over a cron thing?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> ezra-s, no, I'm suggesting that end of life maintenance issues warrant an upgrade
[11:28] <mikejw> that's useful info but I really just need to get this to work
[11:28] <cfhowlett> ezra-s, but feel free to correct me.  I'm willing to learn
[11:28] <ezra-s> mikejw, you have problems using crontab -e with your user?
[11:29] <mikejw> I don't think user-level cron is enabled
[11:29] <ezra-s> mikejw, you don't think? try to make sure.. :P
[11:29] <mikejw> so I just put my username in /etc/cron.allow right?  does it need my user id as well?
[11:30] <ezra-s> cfhowlett, well, it's good to be up to date for sure, no complains, I was just wondering if there were specific issues in cron with lucid that were not going to be fixed
[11:31] <Kartagis> Dr_willis: I'll try that as soon as I finish copying files
[11:31] <Dr_willis> if its EOL basically theres not going to be any fixs any more
[11:31] <ezra-s> mikejw, first try to add a cron job, with your user, do crontab -e add whatever, check if it works
[11:31] <cfhowlett> ezra-s, I lack to the knowledge to give a sensible answer.
[11:32] <cfhowlett> mikejw, your user is on desktop or server ubuntu?  server support continues ...
[11:32] <mikejw> server
[11:32] <mikejw> the crontab is there but how do make sure it works?
[11:32] <ezra-s> let's focus on the cron thing first
[11:32] <cfhowlett> mikejw, excellent.  I can't answer your query but someone will ...
[11:33] <ezra-s> mikejw, it's as simple as doing "crontab -e"  with the user, add a specific job which writes a file in your home for example and see if the file gets created!
[11:34] <ezra-s> make sure the cron job has correct timing so it happens today
[11:34] <mikejw> I've set it for every minute
[11:34] <ezra-s> while we are here at least ;P
[11:34] <ezra-s> that will do ;)
[11:34] <mikejw> btw I've just seen that /etc/cron.allow is mentioned in the crontab man page
[11:35] <mikejw> but I'm not sure exactly what goes in there or if I need to enable something else
[11:35] <ezra-s> mikejw, ignore that for now
[11:35] <snikker> i've got a permission denied error hen i try to upload a file with proftpd
[11:35] <snikker> con you help me?
[11:36] <snikker> *can
[11:36] <mikejw> maybe I just need to restart anacron?
[11:36] <ezra-s> mikejw, no
[11:36] <ezra-s> this is not windows
[11:37] <Dr_willis> reboot, reformat, reinstall, reformat again
[11:37] <Dr_willis> ;P
[11:37]  * ezra-s chuckles
[11:37] <mikejw> contab exists on windows!  news to me
[11:37] <ezra-s> mikejw, restarting everything over every little thing exists on windows
[11:37] <mikejw> maybe...
[11:37] <mikejw> so what *IS* the answer?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> mikejw: there is windows scheduler, kinda similar
[11:38] <ezra-s> even in dated solaris I can do crontab -e without worrying about anything other than my own cron file
[11:38] <ezra-s> so I see no problem with doing it on lucid or any other linux distro back to the old days
[11:39] <Dr_willis> ive not recall ever hearing of crontab for users being disabled in  lucid..
[11:39] <Dr_willis> unless this is some wonky vps/vpn
[11:39] <ezra-s> mikejw, have you made your cron job yet?
[11:39] <mikejw> ok so I guess there must be something wrong with the cronjob itself
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> mikejw: if you run:  export EDITOR=vi; sudo crontab -e      you will get the root crontab file and you can edit it as needed
[11:40] <mikejw> yep, I've managed to that
[11:40] <Fonzie> Is there a way of isntalling a newer php version on ubuntu 12.04 using apt, than the version the default repos is providing? I need 5.3.18, and ubuntu aptitude says 5.3.10 is latest.
[11:41] <Dr_willis> Fonzie,  find a ppa for it is one way
[11:41] <Dr_willis> !latest
[11:41] <mikejw> my problem is that cronjobs don't run not that they don't exist
[11:41] <mikejw> if I do cronjob -l I see them
[11:42] <mikejw> sorry crontab -l
[11:42] <Fonzie> Dr_willis: can i change my repos to unstable or something? like in debian
[11:42] <cfhowlett> Fonzie, enable backports and run apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:42] <betrayd> maybe a PATH issue
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> mikejw: so what is the issue?
[11:42] <Dr_willis> Fonzie,    if its not in backports. you would use the ubuntu PPA 'method' IF you can find a ppa for it
[11:42] <cfhowlett> Fonzie, you enable "proposed" ... but with great paower ...
[11:42] <Ironholds> ns identify 538uu2pf
[11:42] <Ironholds> gah
[11:42] <Ironholds> ffs
[11:42] <ezra-s> mikejw, paste here the output of your crontab -l
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Ironholds: time for a new password
[11:43] <ezra-s> or in a paste url if its more than one line
[11:43] <Dr_willis> backports, proposed, then ppas :) then source.. :P
[11:43] <Guest40999> da ;p
[11:43] <mikejw> 01 * * * * touch ~/test_file
[11:44] <Dr_willis> Err.. in crontab do you want to use the ~/ type shortcut?
[11:44] <Dr_willis> i recall seeing it have issues in some cases. ;)
[11:44] <Fonzie> Dr_willis: deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[11:44] <ezra-s> mikejw, that's the first minute of every hour
[11:44] <Fonzie> Looks liek backports allready enabled?
[11:44] <mikejw> :D
[11:44] <ezra-s> mikejw, do this -> * * * * * echo "Im lazy" >> ~/file.txt
[11:45] <ezra-s> you should have a file.txt with a "Im lazy" every minute you wait
[11:45] <mikejw> awesome I got it
[11:45] <mikejw> thanks
[11:45]  * ezra-s slaps mikejw 
[11:45] <betrayd> NCIS style
[11:45] <Dr_willis> * * * * * beep
[11:45] <Dr_willis> ;)
[11:46] <Dr_willis> !info beep
[11:46] <mikejw> haha
[11:46] <ezra-s> that's good too if you have it
[11:46] <mikejw> that would annoy my co-workers :)
[11:47] <betrayd> i wonder what made it advanced
[11:47] <Dr_willis> * * * * * eject;beep;beep;beep
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> dr_sounds like the everything is o kalarm from the simpsons :)
[11:47] <ezra-s> lol
[11:47] <Dr_willis> actually i think if you do eject a 2nd time. it closes the cdrom tray
[11:48] <Dr_willis> Used that eject trick to figure out which server i was sshed into once or twice
[11:48] <ezra-s> mikejw, sometimes the solution is much simpler than what we want to make it
[11:48] <muindor> is there a way to ping from a particular device like eth2 or eth1 ?
[11:48] <betrayd> might have spooked a datacenter guy
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: oh we do it loads here for the same thing, too many boxes
[11:48] <mikejw> ericab: that's a really good point :)
[11:48] <mikejw> sorry about all that
[11:48] <Dr_willis> night all.
[11:49] <mikejw> sorry.. ezra-s that's a really good point
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> dr_although funny when hardware engineers request it in a vm to find the host esx. durrrrr
[11:50] <ezra-s> mikejw, no worries ;)
[11:51] <Fonzie> Why do i get "The following packages have been kept back:
[11:51] <Fonzie> "
[11:52] <Fonzie> when trying to upgrade a package?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Fonzie: the packages have not got satisfed deps, til they are satisfied othey will be kept back
[11:52] <Fonzie> hm
[11:52] <Fonzie> So, why isnt it upgrading the dependencies?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Fonzie: because they aren't made yet
[11:53] <ezra-s> Fonzie, there are no upgrades for their dependencies that's what ActionParsnip meant
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Fonzie: when they get updated, it will come
[11:53] <cfhowlett> Fonzie, I get 'em all the time on my stock ubuntustudio.  eventually, dependencies get fixed and packages get loaded.  no big deal.
[11:53] <ezra-s> it may happen if you have a ppa with outdated packages for example
[11:54] <Fonzie> I want to upgrade to a newer PHP version, and got the repos to upgrade it, but it failes because of other depencies version :S
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Fonzie: then you will need another source for the deps it needs
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Fonzie: the ones you have cannot satisfy the requirements, so they are held back
[12:00] <athli1> Using 12.04. How Can I change default permissions of cdrom that is mounted automatically in gnome? Ideally if it would automount to /media/cdrom with 777 permissions, like in old days :).
[12:23] <Milan-86> I have faster sound on youtube with the latest version of Chrome! Anyone has this problem?
[12:24] <xylon> Milan-86: what do you mean by faster sound?
[12:24] <Milan-86> It looks like faster, it is very bad
[12:24] <aneks> faster sound :)
[12:25] <aneks> that's a new one :)
[12:25] <Milan-86> deformed sound
[12:25] <ezra-s> desyncrhonized?
[12:26] <Milan-86> yes!
[12:27] <creativeoS> Alright ubuntu champions..? How do I get my "CTRL+ALT+T" to work and open gnome terminal..? (I'm a novice.)
[12:27] <SonikkuAmerica> creativeoS: System Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts tab
[12:28] <SonikkuAmerica> creativeoS: In the "Launchers" section, do you see "Launch a terminal" as one of the list items?
[12:37] <ferrox> Are there DVD images available of 13.04 server?
[12:37] <creativeoS> SonikkuAmerica: No - I've purposely left it out of favourites so I work out this keyboard shortcut problem. I'll give it a go now
[12:38] <vrubium> Hi guys, this may sound the typical question, but given the shorten of raring support, how safe it is to start using saucy right now as my daily box?
[12:41] <ezra-s> vrubium, it's in active development, if you want a stable platform it is not recommended, it all depends on how much you care for stability and things going broken
[12:42] <vrubium> ezra-s: I guess as long it is "easy" to fix I don't mind much
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> vrubium: its officially unstable. If you want longer support I recommend Precise
[12:42] <anabell> exit
[12:43] <vrubium> ActionParsnip: The thing is that it would be really nice to enjoy the performance developments that are arriving in saucy
[12:43] <creativeoS> SonikkuAmerica - No launcher, but I can add one.
[12:44] <SonikkuAmerica> creativeoS: Weird... are you running Unity?
[12:44] <jmcantrell> is there a way to install ubuntu using the installer from within ubuntu?
[12:44] <xylon> jmcantrell: ermmm what?
[12:45] <xylon> Just click on the installer icon
[12:45] <SonikkuAmerica> jmcantrell: On the same HDD, no, but you can install ubiquity (be warned, this will inflate your HDD to epic proportions.
[12:45] <creativeoS> Hahaha no dude. Running openSUSE 12.3 - #ubuntu chan has 10 times more active chatters/helpers/developers though.
[12:45] <jmcantrell> xylon: i want to install ubuntu to a partition that's not my current partition
[12:45] <jmcantrell> SonikkuAmerica: better just to boot from another usb?
[12:46] <xylon> jmcantrell: just do it from the liveCD
[12:46] <SonikkuAmerica> creativeoS: Oh. Well we can't really help you here... but if you're using GNOME...
[12:46] <creativeoS> Yes, that's what I'm using. It's why I come here...
[12:46] <jmcantrell> xylon: yeah, well live usb. who uses cd's any more ;)
[12:46] <xylon> Well, yeah :D
[12:46] <jmcantrell> thanks all :)
[12:46] <JaySee> So i decided to repartition my sustem in place today. I was fed up with there seeming to be not alternative CD for 13.04 so just went with the default encrypted lvm option on the live cd installer. When I went to examine the mostrosity this set up, i wasn't too impressed. It seemed to set up 3 real partitions, one for EUFI, one for /boot, and then the big one for lvm. In the lvm, it only created two partitions, root and swap. I wanted a third hom
[12:46] <JaySee> e partition so when I had the time I decided to fix that. I booted up a live CD, resized my root to as small as it would go, and made a new home. I think at this step I screwed something up because now my root is saying that it's 100% full when it's not.
[12:47] <SonikkuAmerica> creativeoS: You can try in the GIMP IRC network; that's where the GNOME IRC stuff is located. They have a staff willing to help.
[12:49] <JaySee> at some point my root filesystem got corrupted and now shows 0 free space even though there's clearly a few gigs. And the funny thing is I can still write to the root, it just thinks it's full
[12:49] <creativeoS> jmcantrell: are you upgrading from an existing install or running liveUSB/CD..?
[12:50] <Cipher-0> Morning!
[12:50] <kicik>  hi geek ^^
[12:50] <Cipher-0> Trying to get php's LDAP module installed, but the repositories aren't resolving. Anyone else can't find us.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com this AM?
[12:51] <creativeoS> SonikkuAmerica - thanks I'll give them a go
[12:52] <SonikkuAmerica> creativeoS: irc.gimp.org
[12:52] <apm1> i had to hardreset my laptop twice earlier today (consecutively) , will doing an fsck /dev/sdx from a live cd be enough to see if something borked ?
[12:53] <Cipher-0> Never mind, it's DNS issues.
[12:53] <apm1> or do i have to use some special --option with fsck to find out definitively if something bad happened or just a simple fsck to the root partition do  ?
[12:55] <creativeoS> SonikkuAmerica: FYI - the #gnome-hackers has the most chatters.
[12:56] <SonikkuAmerica> creativeoS: XD
[12:56] <SonikkuAmerica> creativeoS: I'd guess they should know about GNOME if they're hacking it :)
[12:56] <dario_> hi there
[12:57] <apm1> i checked the man page for fsck doesn't say anything explicit for crashes/hardresets
[12:57] <iak> is there an Active Directory channel?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> iak  better ask in ##windows
[12:58] <apm1> oh and btw i checked the /var/log/fsck/fscheck logs
[12:58] <iak> thanks.
[12:58] <apm1> why isn't it checkit the / fs on startup ?
[12:58] <apm1> isn't it standard policy for a debian system/derivative to do that before / is mounted ?
[12:59] <apm1> *checking
[13:01] <dario_> does anyone know about samba and permissions? I have a cam recording video files in a shared folder. Those files are owned by nobody of the group nogroup, and can be seen by users in the network
[13:01] <apm1> screw this
[13:01] <dario_> I wrote a script so the oldest are deleted, and inserted that script into the cron files so it is executed periodically
[13:02] <dario_> but they are not deleted, I guess because of the permissions
[13:02] <dario_> if I execute the script manually with sudo
[13:02] <dario_> they are correctly deleted
[13:07] <dario_> I will try another time
[13:07] <dario_> thanks
[13:07] <JamesHolmes> hi, zup. So I'm a strong firm fanatic extremist beleiver in solving all your problems intellectually, perhaps with a mind-map. Now, I feel really confused, down, depersonalized, tired, and so forth. I don't feel like I have the power to control my life, performance or my mental state. What intellectual method/approach can I use to define (understand) my problem and to design a solution?
[13:08] <Cipher-0> JamesHolmes: Try Freemind application. Works well for mind-mapping.
[13:10] <diverdude> Hi, why does  sudo netstat -tulpn show haproxy running on port 80 when sudo lsof -i dont?
[13:10] <_joey````> does iTune work on linux? Can I establish wireless connection 3G via iphone?
[13:10] <BluesKaj> JamesHolmes, this isn't a therapy site , altho irt works for me at times :)
[13:10] <compdoc> JamesHolmes, helps to get out of the house and see the outdoor. Drive in the country, walk in the woods
[13:11] <thrillERboy> Hi I dual booted windows and ubuntu, Now ubuntu doesn't show up in boot menu at all. what should i do?
[13:11] <Zignd> JamesHolmes, you are very funny hahahah
[13:12] <BluesKaj> thrillERboy, have you updated grub since?
[13:12]  * Cipher-0 agrees with compdoc
[13:12] <thrillERboy> BluesKaj: No, I tried, my old commands didnt work now :|
[13:13] <thrillERboy> I cudn't mound /dev/mnt or something, file locations changed I guess
[13:13] <diverdude> Hi, why does  sudo netstat -tulpn show haproxy running on port 80 when sudo lsof -i dont?
[13:13] <thrillERboy> BluesKaj: I used these instruction, it previously used to work for me https://gist.github.com/sathishmanohar/2763371
[13:14] <creativeoS> SonikkuAmerica: it was where you said it is - only needed to know how to create a custom one.
[13:14] <BluesKaj> thrillERboy, sudo os-prober, then run, sudo update-grub
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: tried nmap too?
[13:15] <SonikkuAmerica> creativeoS: There should be a + button somewhere on that screen.
[13:15] <thrillERboy> BluesKaj: I should do this from live cd right?
[13:15] <diverdude> ActionParsnip: no didnt try that
[13:15] <diverdude> ActionParsnip: but why do they show different things?
[13:15] <diverdude> ActionParsnip: how can i know whats correct
[13:16] <BluesKaj> thrillERboy, , you can do it from ubuntu , as long as grub was installed when you installed ubuntu , it's usually automatic
[13:18] <BluesKaj> thrillERboy, or did you install windows after installing ubuntu ?
[13:18] <JaySee> So i decided to repartition my sustem in place today. I was fed up with there seeming to be not alternative CD for 13.04 so just went with the default encrypted lvm option on the live cd installer. When I went to examine the mostrosity this set up, i wasn't too impressed. It seemed to set up 3 real partitions, one for EUFI, one for /boot, and then the big one for lvm. In the lvm, it only created two partitions, root and swap. I wanted a third hom
[13:18] <JaySee> e partition so when I had the time I decided to fix that. I booted up a live CD, resized my root to as small as it would go, and made a new home. I think at this step I screwed something up because now my root is saying that it's 100% full when it's not.
[13:18] <JaySee> at some point my root filesystem got corrupted and now shows 0 free space even though there's clearly a few gigs. And the funny thing is I can still write to the root, it just thinks it's full
[13:18] <FloodBot1> JaySee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:19] <thrillERboy> BluesKaj: No I've installed windows first then ubuntu
[13:19] <BluesKaj> jaysee how large is /   ? you need at least 10G for the OS
[13:20] <BluesKaj> thrillERboy, so waht was the result of the 2 commands ?
[13:20] <ezra-s>  /usr is where most stuff gets installed
[13:20] <JaySee> the OS is already installed on /. I was migrating it to a two partition setup, using cp -prv /mnt/root/home /mnt/newhome
[13:21] <thrillERboy> BluesKaj: sudo update-grub failed with some error like cant mount /con or something, so restarting and entering a fresh livecd session
[13:26] <BluesKaj> thrillERboy, is windows on the first partition ? If so the grub is most likely installed to the mbr there , or you can reinstall it there , sudo grub-install /dev/sdX . X being the assigned device sd number
[13:27] <JaySee> some output from disk usage utilities http://pastebin.com/BhLhyURZ
[13:29] <thrillERboy> BluesKaj: /boot/grub not readable my GRUB on boot.
[13:30] <BluesKaj> then read above , thrillERboy
[13:30] <caleress> hey guys im having a problem connecting to my ap although its visible in ubuntu and works perfectly with my android
[13:30] <caleress> any ideas?
[13:31] <thrillERboy> BluesKaj: update-grub also fails :|
[13:32] <DanC_> ugh... I updated some packages, and now sound settings shows no devices (though aplay -l) does.
[13:32] <BluesKaj> sudo grub-install /dev/daX thrillERboy did you read my post above ?
[13:32] <parapan> dear fellows - is there any piece of software for ubuntu which is able to detect duplicate e-mails ?????
[13:32] <DanC_> and firefox hangs whenever I click a menu or link
[13:32] <JaySee> any ideas? or am i just gonna have to make a new root partition and copy everything over?
[13:32]  * DanC_ wrote a de-dup email python script that worked over IMAP one time...
[13:33] <DanC_> http://www.w3.org/2000/04/maillog2rdf/imap_sort.py
[13:35] <vesayth> Has anyone been able to disable mouse acceleration on Raring and then adjust mouse sensitivity afterwards?
[13:35] <vesayth> I have been able to disable the mouse acceleration via xinput, but then I can't adjust the sensitivity
[13:35] <thrillERboy> BluesKaj: yes sudo grub-install /dev/sda fails with error /boot/grub is not readable by GRUB on boot
[13:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Hey! I keeping getting denied on Bazaar with my SSH pubkey, which is in authorized_keys and registered on Launchpad. Any ideas?
[13:38]  * DanC_ discovers he's not in the audio group...
[13:39] <BluesKaj> thrillERboy, then you'll either have run boot repair or follow this,  http://pastebin.com/MqqvVSkF
[13:45] <_joey> I have Brother MFC-7362N all-in-one laser printer. I use printer only. Can it be installed on linux?
[13:45] <_joey> thanks!
[13:45] <samuel__> oh brother!
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> _joey: check the brother website. They make debs for their devices
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> _joey: did you check that first at all?
[13:46] <samuel__> what have you tried so far joey?
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a python desktop notifier, to make message queu persistent
[13:46] <_joey> I couldn't find linux driver on brother website
[13:46] <_joey> for the sepcific model
[13:46] <samuel__> have you tried plugging it in already?
[13:46] <_joey> samuel__: installed cups
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> _joey: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=brother+linux
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> _joey: top link.....?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> _joey: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> _joey: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#MFC-7362N
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> _joey: how am I finding this...??
[13:47] <samuel__> google is your friend :D
[13:47] <samuel__> or duck duck go!
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> samuel__: google is my 2nd friend :)
[13:48] <samuel__> its surprising how many manufacturers ARE forthcoming with linux drivers now
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> _joey: LPR driver deb first, then the cupswrapper
[13:48] <samuel__> no kodak though :(
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> samuel__: didnt they go bust
[13:48] <samuel__> yeah
[13:48] <samuel__> but alot of people bought kodak printers cos of the ink efficiency thing
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  there's  ##python-friendly -- "We're like #python, but friendlier."
[13:49] <samuel__> i had to deal with alot of cases where my customers had bought them and couldn't get them working in linux
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: tnx
[13:49] <svingegneria> Hello All
[13:49] <cfhowlett> svingegneria, greetings
[13:49] <svingegneria> :)
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> _joey: did you see the pages I linked in your searchings?
[13:50] <_joey> I saw it. Thanks
[13:50] <thrillERboy> Hi BluesKaj I get error in sudo chroot /mnt step. the error chroot: failed to run command /bin/bash
[13:50] <_joey> cupswrapper driver will work with cups?
[13:50] <_joey> what's LPR dirver?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> _joey: did you see it before you asked in here though?
[13:51] <zokko> guys, how can i install zend 1.12 on ubuntu?
[13:51] <zokko> (hello!)
[13:51] <_joey> yes
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> zokko: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:51] <_joey> gosh
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> _joey: install the LPR deb, then the wrapper
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> _joey: then attach the printer and power it on
[13:51] <delliott> Hi, I've been having problems with my GUI freezing on 13.04. I have an Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09). I followed some advice on here and moved from the Unity shell to xfce4.2 and now my GUI doesn't hang. How can I further diagnose the problem and help resolve it for future users?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> delliott: you could try the GUI Intel driver installer detailed on omgubuntu
[13:52] <_joey> ActionParsnip: I see
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> zokko: its a terminal command. You can copy and paste to the terminal
[13:52] <vesayth> Has anyone been able to disable mouse acceleration on Raring and then adjust mouse sensitivity afterwards? I have been able to disable the mouse acceleration via xinput, but then I can't adjust the sensitivity. (Sorry for repost, but haven't seen any repliies yet)
[13:52] <rolla91> i have a problem getting my broadcom wireless adapter on an hpdv2000t to work on ubuntu, anyone have any ideas?
[13:53] <delliott> ActionParsnip: I've installed the Intel Graphics Driver but the driver that is bundled with 13.04 is already in-sync with the latest Intel driver.
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | rolla91
[13:53] <_joey> the driver is i386. I have 64bit installed
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> _joey: your OS supports multiarch, just like Windows does
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> _joey: it will be managed for you
[13:53] <samuel__> good ole multiarch
[13:56] <BluesKaj> thrillERboy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> sometimes I wonder if google blocks the Ubuntu OS from accessing their webpage
[13:56] <_joey> ActionParsnip:  mfc7362nlpr depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1).
[13:56] <samuel__> ho rolla91 what version of ubuntu are you rolling with?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> _joey: then run:   sudo apt-get -f install
[13:56] <vesayth> It's a shame that this mouse acceleration/sensitivity merger happeded in 13.04. The rest of this release is such a huge improvement over the past few releases. But if I can't manage my mouse sensitivity separately from my mouse acceleration, then it's a complete dealbreaker for me.
[13:56] <vesayth> happened*
[13:56] <_joey> ActionParsnip: what will that do?
[13:57] <_joey> the driver seems to be very old
[13:57] <samuel__> vesayth issues with mouse sensitivity are not unique to linux/pc hard ware
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> _joey  the -f in that line means fix
[13:57] <_joey> which depends on old libraries
[13:57] <samuel__> i have ahd issues with it in osx and windows using apple hardware/software
[13:57] <_joey> MonkeyDust: thanks
[13:58] <vesayth> samuel_: yes but the uniqueness comes in the fact that 13.04 merged sensitivity with acceleration, which means you can't adjust them independently of each other
[13:58] <_joey> there isn't anything broken, so not sure why ActionParsnip is recommending a fix
[13:58] <vesayth> unlike other distros/OSes
[13:59] <rolla91> im trying to follow the instructions in that link but am having issues, i was here once before and got it to work by typing in 3 easy commands however i wasnt smart enough to write those down and an update crashed the ubuntu
[13:59] <zokko> guys, is there a repo with zend 1.12 ??
[13:59] <rolla91> i have tried downloading the broadcom STA however it still doesnt work
[14:00] <rolla91> it is a broadcom 4312
[14:00] <inflex> good lord, I really wonder at times how my father does this.... managed to completely break his system upgrading from 12.10 -> 13.04,  I suspect because he loves to use PPAs and it looks like there was about a dozen of them active before he did the upgrade :(
[14:00] <inflex> Worst thing was, I told him "No Dad, DON'T upgrade [ yet ]"
[14:01] <vesayth> Guess I'll try back here later. Sigh.
[14:01] <inflex> vesayth: wassup?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> zokko: what is the output of the command I gave please?
[14:01] <xci> has anyone used high resolution webcams? I tried to use 1080p Creative Socialize Webcam, but I ended up getting 320p, even though what I understood is that UVC should take care of this automatically?
[14:02] <samuel__> inflex, i have done the online upgrade to some success
[14:03] <samuel__> but by far the most successful way to upgrade with any linux in my experience
[14:03] <samuel__> is to keep /home on a separate partition
[14:03] <rolla91> samuel__ i have 12.10
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> zokko: in a terminal, run: lsb_release -sc     what is the output please?
[14:03] <rolla91> samuel__ sorry for my delay, i hadn't seen your response
[14:03] <samuel__> then you can use live medium to test your hardware/software, then use the installer to format / and just mount /home without formatting it if you use the same username and password
[14:04] <samuel__> it will automatically mount the correct home folder
[14:04] <inflex> samuel__: or just resist the urge to fiddle
[14:04] <samuel__> that forces you to reinstall PPA's
[14:04] <samuel__> but usually works out better
[14:05] <inflex> I think the shift from Cinnamon being a PPA requirement to being part of the repository in 13.04 might have complicated things as well
[14:06] <rolla91> samuel__ i have tried following the instructions given in the link on here but am not having much luck, still a newb to ubuntu. its ubuntu 12.04 and broadcom 4312
[14:06] <samuel__> imagine cinnabuntu lol
[14:06] <inflex> I'd rather they named it something like Spicetu
[14:07] <inflex> Anyhow, i'm still content on 12.10, will be for a while yet I dare say, no compelling reason for me to shift
[14:07] <rolla91> ubuntu 12.10 broadcom 4312 not working, does anyone have any ideas?
[14:07] <samuel__> i'm using 13.04, upgraded with the above method and its great
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> people should just let gnome 2 die
[14:08] <samuel__> actionparsnip +111111111111111
[14:08] <samuel__> haany reason why you ar suing 12.10 and not 13.04  rolla91?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> if you like 2 panels and such, use xfce
[14:08] <serega> есть русские юзвери?
[14:08] <samuel__> i agree, i hate mate lol
[14:09] <inflex> ja, +1 to having GNOME die, though GTK can stick around.  I was always a bit concerned when they bound GNOME and GTK too tightly together.
[14:09] <samuel__> for me it is all the worst things about gnome 2 - a nightmare to support remotely
[14:09] <rolla91> Samuel__ its not my computer, its a friends. I belive they were trying an update to 13.04 and it crashed midway through so they reloaded it with that they had
[14:10] <inflex> What's the plausibility of Ubuntu taking on something like Cinnamon as the default DM/WM?  Though I suppose that just wouldn't go down well.
[14:11] <inflex> ( personally i'm using Fluxbox :) )
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> inflex: same, fluxbox is badass
[14:12] <samuel__> hmm i had issues with 12.04 and my broadcom 4313
[14:12] <inflex> ActionParsnip: nice to have a WM that does its job and keeps out of your face :)
[14:12] <samuel__> i think it needs a decoder or something
[14:12] <rolla91> samuel__ i was here once before a week ago and they helped me get it working with a couple of commands, it was really easy, but then they tried the update and it crashed
[14:13] <rolla91> however i dont remember those commands
[14:13] <samuel__> inflex, i think the possibility of that happening is slim to none
[14:13] <samuel__> can you get internet access on this machine?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> inflex: fluxbox + xcompmg + docky, runs great :)
[14:14] <rolla91> yes samuel__ it is on wired ethernet now
[14:14] <inflex> ActionParsnip: hrmm...haven't used xcompmg or docky.  I just have everything on the right-click menu and keyboard combos
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> inflex: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/raring.png
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> inflex: dangerzone!!!
[14:19] <gordonjcp> ~.
[14:20] <num7> hi, my pc (os debian) get stuck and had to turn the power off. now i can't boot it says (error: unknown filesystem. grub rescue>) Can somebody help me out please?
[14:21] <DJones> num7: #debian should be able to help you with that
[14:21] <num7> okay thank you DJones
[14:23] <mr-rich> Does cron have a log? I have a cron job that's supposed to run weekly but every once in a while it doesn't. Is there a way to tell if it tried to run?
[14:24] <mr-rich> Already searched through everything /var/log ...
[14:25] <isasha> Which option should I use for mv to move an entire directory from one drive to another directory into another drive? I tried to use sudo mv (have rights issues) directory1 directory2
[14:25] <inflex> mr-rich: check the mail spool files to see if anything has been sent
[14:25] <yeats> mr-rich: you can install mail-utils and then the system will alert the cron user via mail
[14:25] <DJones> mr-rich: cron jobs are supposed to be logged at /var/log/syslog
[14:25] <inflex> mr-rich: ie, ls /var/spool/mail
[14:25] <isasha> but then that gave me this error:
[14:25] <isasha> unable to remove target: Is a directory
[14:25] <isasha> any ideas?
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> how can i make desktop notifications persistent in my python script can someone take a look at it?
[14:26] <yeats> isasha: I would use rsync and once everything's copied, rm the original
[14:26] <isasha> Oh and there is also this part at the beginning:
[14:26] <isasha> mv: inter-device move failed: `A Clockwork Orange 1971 1080p x264 AC3 mkvrg/' to `/media/sasha/DL2 160/downloads/A Clockwork Orange 1971 1080p x264 AC3 mkvrg'; unable to remove target: Is a directory
[14:26] <yeats> isasha: or cp -r
[14:26] <isasha> can't I do it with mv?
[14:26] <DJones> mr-rich: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56683/where-is-the-cron-crontab-log
[14:26] <isasha> thx
[14:27] <yeats> isasha: this thread might help: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/using-mv-to-move-the-contents-of-one-directory-into-another-444738/
[14:28] <NoiseEee> hi folks, 12.04 here and wondering how I might set my "folder" view to "list" and also show Owner and Permissions by default, every time I open it.
[14:28] <zokko> ??repo
[14:28] <zokko> ?repository
[14:28] <zokko> ??repository
[14:28] <zokko> ?zend
[14:28] <zokko> hm, no helpfull bots in here? :/
[14:29] <samuel__> floodbot i helpufl
[14:30] <yeats> !bot | zokko
[14:31] <DJones> zokko: It doesn't look like there are any repo's/ppa's with zend 1.12
[14:31] <yeats> NoiseEee: Files -> Preferences has some options
[14:32] <isasha> yeats: yeah the cp and then rm trick worked
[14:32] <isasha> thanks
[14:33] <NoiseEee> perfect, yeats
[14:33] <NoiseEee> thanks
[14:35] <mr-rich> inflex: thanks ... the cron actually ran ... accessing via WinSCP on WinXP ... had to refresh the remote directory listing
[14:37] <inflex> mr-rich: oh good, so there was something in the mail spool?
[14:37] <lostso> is there any way the i can recovery deja dup password?
[14:37] <dlittle> anybody get fitbit to sync in ubunut
[14:37] <lostso> is there any way the i can recovery deja dup password?
[14:38] <mr-rich> inflex: Yes ... in /var/spool/postfix ... grep'd it for the script name ...
[14:40] <famax8> whts the story with the new studio 13.04~?
[14:41] <inflex> mr-rich: wonderful, good to know that was useful :)
[14:41] <aa10123> wedgwood_away
[14:41] <_joey> is there alternative client for skype?
[14:42] <Fieldy> _joey: no, it's proprietary and closed source from top to bottom, including the protocol it uses
[14:42] <adamk> _joey: If you want to chat with other skype users, you have to use skype.
[14:43] <_joey> linux is skype is really outdated now
[14:43] <_joey> it does not look like it has been supported for a little while
[14:43] <adamk> Which doesn't change the answer :-)
[14:43] <famax8> _joey, there is a website that can do the work meanwhile
[14:44] <_joey> famax8: which work?
[14:45] <famax8> _joey, so far it always did work for me and is also handy at work
[14:45] <famax8> lemme check it
[14:45] <_joey> famax8: what are you talking about?
[14:45] <_joey> webinterface?
[14:47] <lmat> I installed my new graphics driver and my system is sort of borked :(
[14:47] <lmat> amd firepro m4000
[14:47] <lmat> The window manager "works" but the tool bars and window decorations don't work.
[14:48] <lmat> Any clues? ^_^
[14:48] <adamk_> lmat: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[14:48] <_joey> what's a popular screenshot utility?
[14:49] <lmat> adamk_: aye
[14:50] <g0twig> t
[14:50] <Caterpillar> Does anybody have AMD Radeon graphic card with propertary drivers? Are they good now, after years of bad drivers? Does AMD still drop support after 2 years?
[14:50] <Diranged> i can tell my debian package build files that the sourcecode is at some URL right? and it will download it?
[14:51] <MonkWitDaFunk> I have ati radeon
[14:51] <famax8> _joey, i guess - is called imo
[14:51] <MonkWitDaFunk> No proprietary drivers are available
[14:51] <famax8> _joey, there was another one but cant remember the name and u also have one on the skype website
[14:51] <Caterpillar> MonkWitDaFunk: model?
[14:52] <lmat> http://pastie.org/7953378
[14:52] <adamk> Caterpillar: I haven't had any serious issues with the proprietary drivers in quite a while, but yes they do still drop support for cards every few years.
[14:52] <lmat> adamk_: ^
[14:53] <Caterpillar> adamk: ok that's enough
[14:53] <lmat> _joey: screenshot
[14:53] <adamk> Caterpillar: HD5xxx and higher GPUs are supported by the current drivers, HD2xxx through HD4xxx are supported by legacy drivers that require an older X server.
[14:53] <MonkWitDaFunk> Nvidia should definately be your card if you want to adopt linux with proprietary graphics drivers
[14:53] <adamk> Caterpillar: But, personally, I prefer the open source drivers.
[14:53] <Caterpillar> adamk: lol they even dropped 4xxx
[14:53] <Caterpillar> mad at amd
[14:54] <Caterpillar> ok thx for the infos
[14:54] <adamk> lmat: How did you install the driver?
[14:55] <lmat> adamk: download and run.
[14:55] <lmat> adamk: let me see if I can get the link..
[14:55] <MatthewX> sudo apt-get "name"
[14:55] <adamk> lmat: Well I'm seeing no sign in that log file that the proprietary driver is even installed.
[14:55] <lmat> adamk: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/fire/Pages/fire_dell_linux.aspx
[14:55] <aura_> ubuntu 13.04 keeps waiting to mount an external drive that no longer exists every boot until I press S
[14:55] <lmat> adamk: me, too
[14:56] <lmat> adamk: The performance is definitely different, though!!
[14:56] <inflex> aura_: remove it from /etc/fstab
[14:56] <lmat> adamk: I used to be able to use 3 monitors but now I can only use one :(
[14:56] <lmat> adamk: When I ran unit_support_test (I think that's what it's called) it has an error (can't open libGL or something)
[14:56] <adamk> lmat: Well you are now using the fbdev driver which has no acceleration.
[14:56] <adamk> lmat: And only supports one monitor.
[14:56] <MatthewX> I use Ubuntu in winter, it'll be warm.
[14:56] <_joey> what's a favourite utility for cd and dvd copying
[14:57] <adamk> lmat: In the process of attempting to install the catalyst driver, you managed to disable the open source driver.
[14:57] <lmat> adamk: Ahh!
[14:57] <MatthewX> And now, It's hot here.
[14:57] <lmat> adamk: The reason I tried to install a new driver is because unity_support_test said that I was using software rendering.
[14:57] <lmat> adamk: This makes me want to invest my time writing open source drivers.
[14:58] <adamk> lmat: Is this a laptop with a hybrid GPU?
[14:58] <MatthewX> what is hybird?
[14:58] <adamk> MatthewX: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_Hybrid_Graphics
[14:58] <lmat> adamk: I don't know! I would love to know!
[14:59] <adamk> lmat: Does 'lspci | grep -i vga' list one or two devices?
[14:59] <lmat> adamk: if its' fancy, I doubt it :)
[14:59] <lmat> one
[14:59] <lmat> adamk: and it's terribly non-descript: "AMD nee ATI Device 682d"
[14:59] <adamk> OK, so no hybrid graphics.  I would think the open source drivers support that GPU, then.
[15:00] <lmat> adamk: oh, that's only for radeons...I have firepro ..
[15:00] <MatthewX> Does anybody speak Chinese?
[15:00] <lmat> MatthewX: Of course, silly.
[15:00] <Pici> !zh | MatthewX
[15:00] <adamk> lmat: Nearly every Firepro video card from the last...  5-10 years, I think, has a radeon GPU at it's core.
[15:00] <mi7> hello
[15:00] <lmat> adamk: good to know :)
[15:00] <lmat> adamk: Any suggestions?
[15:01] <adamk> Check under /etc/modprobe.d/ for anything blacklisting the radeon kernel module.
[15:01] <MatthewX> I'm a new guy, are you in Taiwan now?
[15:01] <lmat> adamk: Oh yeah, the installation asked me a question up front...
[15:02] <lmat> "Install driver v9.0..." or "Generate Distribution-specific Driver package"
[15:02] <lmat> I think I tried the former the first time, perhaps I'll try the latter?
[15:02] <adamk> lmat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#FirePro_.28Mxxxx.29_Series Shows that the M4000 has an HD7770 radeon GPU at it's core.
[15:02] <lmat> adamk: :)
[15:03] <adamk> lmat: Personally, I would try getting the radeon driver working.
[15:03] <lmat> "There were errors during package generation."
[15:03] <lmat> adamk: Ahh, grab up hd7770 radeon drivers?
[15:04] <adamk> lmat: Ubuntu comes with the open source radeon driver. I would be interested in knowing why that wasn't working and trying to fix it.
[15:04] <adamk> Which is why I suggest checking to see if radeon is blacklisted.
[15:04] <lmat> adamk: me, too!
[15:04] <TBotNik> All, Need some help! Installed LAMP, PEAR/PECL and then phpseclib.  Now need to be able to run right combo of ssh-keygen to get into local id_rsa file, for automation of SFTP cron script.  Anyone have the right syntax for this?
[15:05] <lmat> adamk: cd /etc/modprobe.d && grep -C 2 -i radeon $(find)
[15:06] <lmat> adamk: returns "# radeon conflicts with AMD Linux Graphics Driver" and "blacklist radeon"
[15:06] <lmat> adamk: Does that mean that linux has blacklisted all radeon devices?
[15:07] <lmat> adamk: brb, gotta restart for driver installation...
[15:07] <adamk> It means that your attempt to install the proprietary driver blacklisted the open source radeon kernel module, which is why Xorg is failing to load the radeon driver.
[15:07] <adamk> ...
[15:09] <lmat> okay, reinstalled drivers, same effect.
[15:09] <adamk> What drivers did you reinstall?
[15:09] <lmat> adamk: same ones
[15:09] <adamk> Why would you think that following the same procedure (which didn't previously work) would suddenly start working?
[15:09] <delac> both totem and vlc view H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10) video black (sound ok) on ubuntu 12.04. any obivious fix?
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a python script that can click unread msges on desktop notifications
[15:10] <lmat> adamk: many reasons :)
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> delac: tried a different video utout method in settings?
[15:11] <lmat> adamk: If you really want to hear some reasons, I'll be glad to enumerate. For now, I'll look at why package generation failed, then, assuming nothing hopeful is found, I'll uninstall it and try to get back hom.
[15:11] <serega> Hi, who knows how to fix the fonts in intellij idea?
[15:13] <delac> ActionParsnip: nope, what might be good try?
[15:14] <delac> ActionParsnip: oh, at least X11 seems to work. thanks!
[15:15] <delac> ActionParsnip: um, is there a way to change this in totem?
[15:16] <chro> hi, every time I log in with my user account I get this message "The program 'screen' is currently not installed.  To run 'screen' please ask your administrator to install the package 'screen'" Why does this happen?
[15:16] <nimbiotics> #join #alsa
[15:17] <SonikkuAmerica> /join #alsa
[15:17] <jrib> chro: you've probably setup screen to run automatically when you login?  But I'm pretty sure screen should be installed by default...
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> chro: sudo apt-get install screen
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> its not default installed
[15:18] <chro> jrib, how can I set that up?
[15:18] <h7n9> hi
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> chro: sudo apt-get install screen
[15:18] <chro> jrib, screen is not installed here
[15:19] <chro> ActionParsnip, I don't want to install screen. I just want to get rid of this message
[15:19] <nimbiotics> I need help. The audio in my system is messed up. I want to use mixed stereo in order to be able to record some phone calls and tried to do so with pavucontrol to no avail. Then someone told me to use alsamix and, even though I followed his advise neither did that work so I forgot about it. Now, I am trying to play urban terror and I cannot hear any of the sound effects. Can some PLEASE	...
[15:19] <nimbiotics> ...help me get my audio fixed? TIA!
[15:20] <SonikkuAmerica> chro: Something in your system depends on screen apparently.
[15:20] <otoxoto> HOLA
[15:20] <otoxoto> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL?
[15:20] <SonikkuAmerica> !es | otoxoto
[15:20] <serega> who knows how to fix the fonts in intellij idea?
[15:20] <DJones> !es | otoxoto
[15:21] <otoxoto> HOLA!
[15:21] <otoxoto> COMO TE VA dJ?
[15:21] <otoxoto> Te cuento
[15:21] <otoxoto> trabajo en un canal de Tv local, en un pueblito perdido al Norte de ARgentina
[15:21] <chro> SonikkuAmerica, like what? what can trigger an application to start when I log in with my user account
[15:21] <otoxoto> Estoy utilizando Ubuntu Studio... necesito un programa para
[15:21] <SonikkuAmerica> chro: Byobu from tty
[15:21] <otoxoto> el noticiero
[15:21] <otoxoto> me puedes ayudar?
[15:22] <DJones> otoxoto: This channel is English only, please join #ubuntu-es for support in Spanish
[15:22] <SonikkuAmerica> otoxoto: Puedes recibir ayuda en español, escriba    /join #ubuntu-es
[15:22] <nimbiotics> OTOXOTO haz un canal privado
[15:23] <otoxoto> Gracias!
[15:23] <otoxoto> Thaks you
[15:23] <nimbiotics> LA AYUDA EN ESPA~OL ES ESCASA, HAY MAS GENTE DE HABLA HISPANA ACA QUE EN EL CANAL EN ESPA~OL
[15:23] <otoxoto> Grax!
[15:24] <nimbiotics> HELP IN SPANISH IS VERY SCARSE, THERE ARE MORE SPANISH SPEAKERS HERE THAN IN THE SPANISH CHANNEL
[15:24] <SonikkuAmerica> !caps
[15:24] <TBotNik> All:  REPEATING: Need some help! Installed LAMP, PEAR/PECL and then phpseclib.  Now need to be able to run right combo of ssh-keygen to get into local id_rsa file, for automation of SFTP cron script.  Anyone have the right syntax for this?
[15:24] <otoxoto> muchas gracias a todos!
[15:24] <nimbiotics> I JUST WANTED YOU TO READ, thx!
[15:24] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: I assume ssh is installed to?
[15:25] <gordonjcp> !caps | nimbiotics
[15:25] <lmat> adamk: well, I got the proprietary drivers working (I guess). I made some simlinks to libGL.so.1 and another lib, then ran aticonfig --initial (which "modifies xorg config to work with AMD products") then restart. Now unity window decorations appear to work and the dash bar is apparent.
[15:25] <Erealz> how do i install linux containers?
[15:25] <adamk> lmat: Can you pastebin your new Xorg log file?
[15:25] <nimbiotics> i understand about  upper case, but not why area there so many xenophobics here
[15:25] <lmat> adamk: fo sho
[15:26] <lmat> adamk: http://pastie.org/7953504
[15:27] <lmat> adamk: line 387 of use?
[15:27] <TBotNik> All: If not do you have a good HOWTO?  All HOWTOs I've read are about how to gen key for either my machine or gen and port to my server.  Need the righ syntax to "GET" key from remote server.  The few HOWTOs that explain this scenario do not show HOWTO gen the key to local "id_rsa" file or HOWTO copy/export it to a file from the ~/.ssh/known_hosts file.
[15:27] <adamk> lmat: Well according to your log file, you're still using the Xorg fbdev driver...
[15:28] <adamk> lmat: [    12.832] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fglrx
[15:28] <lmat> adamk: It might be working better just because of those soft links :o
[15:28] <adamk> lmat: The driver is not installed, or not installed properly.
[15:28] <L30> hello folks
[15:28] <L30> quick question
[15:28] <adamk> lmat: find /usr/lib* -name fglrx_drv.so
[15:29] <rocky> does anyone have experience setting up a displaylink/usb display in ubuntu 13.04 ? i really have no idea where to start and google is just showing old info that doesn't seem to pertain to 13.04
[15:29] <L30> If Installed Lubuntu as an OS can i removwe it (since now i'v installed Ubuntu Desktop" ???
[15:29] <lmat> adamk: got it.
[15:29] <SonikkuAmerica> L30: You can get rid of the lubuntu-desktop and lxde packages
[15:30] <lmat> adamk: my xorg.conf says "Driver "fglrx" "
[15:30] <fschuindt> guys, I have an virtual box installed ubuntu server, with some softwares and configurations, It's a Rails apps web server, with database and everything. I am about to pay a VPS, wich uses the same distro/version. There's any way to upload like a copy of my server to the VPS? I don't want to setup everytinhg again.
[15:30] <sandeepr> hi, for some module testing i need to stress the 12.04 server. what is the option available to stress the server interms of cpu, memory, network and io?
[15:30] <L30> so i wont have any problems logging in? My fear is that when I uninstall It will remove the session manager and stuff like that
[15:30] <adamk> lmat: OK.... But as you can see, it clearly can't load fglrx because it's either not on your system or not where it is supposed to be.
[15:30] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: Past that using the phpseclib extension to PEAR, but key keep failing as wrong gen syntax.  Works fine in FileZilla, and so assume I have key in ~/.ssh/known_hosts, but found I have 2 of these file, so not sure which contains the key for FileZilla, or if FileZilla has it's own file holding it's own keys.
[15:30] <sc30317> hey all; i'm trying to de-duplicate data on my hard drive.  I'm running linux, and the volume is NTFS.  is there an easy way to do this?
[15:30] <lmat> adamk: Ahh, perhaps I'll simlink it to /usr/lib :)
[15:31] <adamk> lmat: It's an Xorg module, not a normal system library.  It does not go in /usr/lib/
[15:31] <lmat> adamk: ahh, good to know :)
[15:31] <lmat> adamk: I thought it's a kernel driver module
[15:32] <adamk> lmat: fglrx.ko is a kernel module. We haven't even checked if that exists.
[15:32] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: Hmm... better ask someone who knows about PEAR then.
[15:32] <lmat> adamk: didn't find it in /usr
[15:32] <swiss> sc30317: de-duplicate?
[15:32] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: If I know where the key file is for FileZilla, and the right "export" cmd, then could get the "id_rsa" file I need for the autmation script.
[15:32] <adamk> lmat: Then it's not getting installed at all on your system.
[15:32] <lmat> adamk: excellente :)
[15:33] <lmat> adamk: trying again
[15:33] <adamk> lmat: Have you checked to see if the driver is installable via jockey?
[15:33] <lmat> adamk: never heard of jockey, I'll check it out.
[15:33] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: Oh... that's just [ ssh-keygen ] then, unless you have the id_rsa and id_rsa.pub already.
[15:33] <lmat> adamk: And before you berate me for trying to do the exact same thing and expecting different results....
[15:33] <lmat> adamk: I've created openGL simlinks :)
[15:34] <SonikkuAmerica> lmat: jockey == "Additional Drivers"
[15:34] <adamk> I didn't berate you before...  I simply asked a question :-)
[15:34] <lmat> SonikkuAmerica: yup, I see now :)
[15:34] <lmat> adamk: :)
[15:34] <hypnocat> how do i search through the names and descriptions of packages that i have installed ?
[15:34] <lmat> adamk: whoa! It looks like it has driver suggestions. Unfortunately, it's suggestions, not suggestion.
[15:34] <tuffgong>  how to reset mysql with error #1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server
[15:34] <lmat> doh! "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system."
[15:35] <adamk> D'oh indeed.
[15:35] <SonikkuAmerica> tuffgong: Try [ sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server ] and enter a new root password for the server.
[15:35] <adamk> We already know that that aren't in use :-)
[15:35] <antihero> hello, trying to update server but get message "E: Internal Error, No file name for libpython2.7-minimal"
[15:35] <antihero> whenever I try to do anything
[15:35] <antihero> is there a way to rollback packages
[15:35] <antihero> to before
[15:36] <lmat> adamk: I'd like to undo the havok of this proprietary driver but "./driverfile.run --uninstall" fails.
[15:36] <SonikkuAmerica> antihero: First, is python installed?
[15:36] <SonikkuAmerica> (It should be)
[15:36] <adamk_> lmat: This is what happens when you don't use the recommended methods for installing proprietary drivers.
[15:36] <lmat> adamk_: seriously :(
[15:36] <antihero> SonikkuAmerica: I think s
[15:36] <lmat> adamk_: I thought going to the manufacturer was a remarkably impecably recommended way :(
[15:36] <adamk_> lmat: Honestly, I doubt there's a whole lot of havok that has been done...  Clearly the installer didn't even install the most basic component, the Xorg module.
[15:36] <antihero> yes
[15:37] <adamk_> lmat: So I would just install the driver through Additional Drivers, cross your fingers, and reboot.
[15:37] <SonikkuAmerica> antihero: (o) OK... try installing libpython2.7-minimal via apt-get then.
[15:37] <lmat> adamk_: it screwed up libGL :(   Clearly, don't trust manufacturers, they know nothing, trust Ubuntu (in this case, jockey).
[15:37] <lmat> adamk_: There are three choices:
[15:37] <lmat> adamk_: "Experimental AMD binary Xorg driver and kernel module"
[15:37] <tuffgong> SonikkuAmerica, still have the error  #1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server
[15:38] <antihero> SonikkuAmerica: https://gist.github.com/radiosilence/3ac5d9066fc434f1fd54
[15:38] <lmat> adamk_: "...AMD... proprietary ... driver (**experimental** beta)"
[15:38] <lmat> adamk_: and " ... (post-release updates)"
[15:38] <SonikkuAmerica> tuffgong: Are you trying a remote (IP address) login or one from localhost?
[15:38] <lmat> adamk_: (the third is the same as the second except inside () )
[15:39] <adamk_> Well I'd avoid the experimental/beta one :-) Go for the post-release update, I think.
[15:39] <tuffgong> SonikkuAmerica, localhost
[15:39] <lmat> adamk_: Sounds like te right way to go :)
[15:39] <SonikkuAmerica> tuffgong: Try purging and reinstalling.
[15:40] <antihero> I tried apt-get install -f
[15:40] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: The key gen should not be dependent on the technology calling.  Right should be just "ssh-keygen" but have to have right option set or default goes to ~/.ssh/known_hosts and then do not have the "id_rsa" file needed to execute the automated script.
[15:40] <antihero> but I get the python error
[15:40] <delac> any way with firefox to open type=video/mp4 video in external player?
[15:40] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: Check inside ~/.ssh
[15:41] <tuffgong> SonikkuAmerica, can i have the command for purging the package
[15:41] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: Encrypted, so meaningless!
[15:41] <antihero> arrgh
[15:41] <antihero> I can't reinstall python-minimal
[15:41] <antihero> as it complains I have unmet dependencies
[15:41] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: You have an encrypted home folder?
[15:41] <SonikkuAmerica> tuffgong: [ sudo apt-get purge mysql-server ]
[15:42] <SonikkuAmerica> antihero: Not installable?
[15:42] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: Understand I open the file and is nothing but hash!
[15:42] <Aaruni|OSX> can we password protect an application? for e.g.: it should ask for the password, each time I open thunderbird ?
[15:42] <antihero> how do I give apt a "solution" ie replace with python
[15:43] <tuffgong> SonikkuAmerica, and coomand  for reinstalling the package
[15:43] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: That's what an SSH key is - "nothing but hash."
[15:43] <SonikkuAmerica> tuffgong: [ sudo apt-get install mysql-server ]
[15:45] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: I'm on Kubuntu 12.04 (modified DT), but base install otherwise, and all .ssh file are encrypted by default.  Not sure about the home dir, but running all cmds as root and that is also encrypted!
[15:45] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: root doesn't use your SSH keys.
[15:46] <antihero> how do I replace python2.7-minimal with libpython
[15:46] <Diranged> Is it not possible to have debuild or dpkg-buildpackage dynamically untar the orig.tar.gz file at build-time for a package?
[15:46] <chro> where are the incidents reported to when I try to install something and I have no rights to that?
[15:47] <antihero> basically there's a partially installed libpython2.7-minimal throwing a spanner in the works
[15:47] <antihero> so I need to like
[15:47] <antihero> replace that
[15:47] <antihero> or re-do it or something
[15:47] <antihero> help :(
[15:47] <FloodBot1> antihero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:47] <MagBo_> Hi guys, I have a really stupid question, I'm quite lost, as it's 2nd day in Debian-like repo. I want to set up a xen bridge via Ubuntu's suggested /etc/network/interfaces. I configure stuff, it works after first reboot, but after second reboot whole network table gets messed up and additional bridges get spawned.
[15:47] <antihero> clean?
[15:48] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: I see some examples where they show something like "ssh: hostIPaddress: keyhash, and those were telling you to copy the right "host" line into a new "id_rsa" file, but all mine is all hash so not possible to ID the host within the file.
[15:49] <antihero> ah, dpkg
[15:49] <antihero> sudo dpkg --configure -a magic
[15:50] <chro> when I login with a non-sudo user I can see the message: "355 packages can be updated...."
[15:50] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: Just delete the old id_rsa and id_rsa.pub and generate a new key using [ ssh-keygne ]
[15:50] <chro> why does this happen?
[15:50] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: *[ ssh-keygen ]
[15:50] <tuffgong> SonikkuAmerica, still error appears http://imagebin.antiyes.com/index829.html
[15:51] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: No such files to delete.
[15:51] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: In ~/.ssh/ ? If not, just generate new ones.
[15:52] <MagBo_> chro: that happens because of motd-script.
[15:52] <chro> MagBo_, does it have some config file that I can see?
[15:53] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: That is my problem, running ssh-keygen remotehostipaddress does not produce any such file.  ssh-keygen, but itself creates access code only for the current machine/OS and that also dumps into ~/.ssh/known_hosts, not to a file.
[15:54] <MagBo_> chro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpdateMotd
[15:54] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: BRB, got to check something!
[15:54] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: Not when I ran [ ssh-keygen ] by itself. It generated a private and public key in ~/.ssh/ that I could export.
[15:56] <MagBo_> okay, it seems like it doesn't create bridge interfaces indefinitely long.
[15:56] <MagBo_> It just creates xenbr0-2.
[15:56] <MagBo_> and wrecks the routing table.
[15:59] <domino> is there a room specifically for x or l ubuntu?
[16:01] <Gary_inNYC> How do I enable scrolling for a usb keyboard with built in touchpad attached to a laptop?  Vertical scrolling works fine on the laptop's touchpad, but not on the usb keyboard's touchpad.
[16:01] <MagBo_> Hm, is there a room specifically for Debian-based systems networking? Maybe Ubuntu Server room or something like that?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Gary_inNYC: does the keyboard have a make and model?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> MagBo_: there us #ubuntu-server
[16:02] <MagBo_> ActionParsnip: thx <3
[16:02] <cdavis> How do I determine what version of sane-backends I have?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> cdavis: apt-cache policy sane-backends
[16:03] <solid> :o
[16:03] <solid> hello
[16:03] <Gary_inNYC> model is WKB-2000
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> cdavis: or:  dpkg -l | grep sane
[16:04] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: Do you have an answer?  Need to goto meeting in a few, so will not be back for couple hours.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Gary_inNYC: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+question/149155   found that
[16:05] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: What export cmd did you use?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Gary_inNYC: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[16:07] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: Didn't have to use one. (Canonical's Launchpad service lets you copy and paste the key into a text box)
[16:07] <Deet_> so, i have a massive pile of desktops. i'm am considering building a distributed system on it. came across directions for doing it with RedHat, i was curious if it can also be done witbh Ubuntu?
[16:07] <Deet_> anyone ever made a cluster system off ubuntu?
[16:07] <gordonjcp> Deet_: of course
[16:07] <gordonjcp> Deet_: first off, consider setting up PXE booting
[16:08] <gordonjcp> Deet_: that'll take an evening or so ;-)
[16:08] <Deet_> heh
[16:08] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: Not sure if I have LaunchPad under KDE, but checking!
[16:08] <Gary_inNYC> ActionParsnip: lsb_release -sc doesn't seem to do anything for me
[16:08] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: Web service - go to http://launchpad.net
[16:09] <TBotNik> I see it is a Python app
[16:09] <Deet_> one question tho. some of these machines are really old. will using GUI on one machine and command line on the rest be advisable? and can different version of ubuntu be used?
[16:09] <nimbiotics> I need help. The audio in my system is messed up. I want to use mixed stereo in order to be able to record some phone calls and tried to do so with pavucontrol to no avail. Then someone told me to use alsamix and, even though I followed his advise neither did that work so I forgot about it. Now, I am trying to play urban terror and I cannot hear any of the sound effects. Can someone PLEASE	...
[16:09] <nimbiotics> ...help me get my audio fixed? TIA!
[16:09] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: It's a Unity web app
[16:10] <Deet_> suppose PXE booting isn't an option on all machines?
[16:11] <gordonjcp> Deet_: they need to actually support PXE but you can usually see stuff about that in the BIOS screen
[16:11] <gordonjcp> Deet_: they will unless they are ridiculously old
[16:11] <Deet_> some are p2 and 3
[16:11] <gordonjcp> nimbiotics: try alsa-oss
[16:11] <gordonjcp> Deet_: no PXE for you!
[16:11] <gordonjcp> Deet_: USB sticks or even floppies with a PXE bootloader will help though
[16:11] <cheffed> Hello, ive set Rythmbox on Partymode, however (lol) i cannot get it off it anymore, anyone know some hotkey that restores it to regular play mode?
[16:12] <Deet_> :( this is where i got the first info on using RedHat http://www.webstreet.com/super_computer.htm
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds and reboot
[16:12] <Deet_> didn't say anything about pxe there
[16:12] <Deet_> okay, i got floppy drives
[16:12] <bobsamfredricks> i am a major ubuntu n00b and am looking for some help...my mouse speed is way too fast even though i have the setting on the slowest. i have posted this but don't seem to be generating much feedback: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/229234
[16:12] <bobsamfredricks> is there anyone who could help me?
[16:12] <cheffed> and me?
[16:12] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: WebApp?  How do you use it?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> cheffed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1876862
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> cheffed: tried F11?
[16:13] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: Click it (it opens up a Firefox or Chromium window)
[16:13] <gordonjcp> bobsamfredricks: have you got another mouse you can try?
[16:13] <bobsamfredricks> gordon: hmm, yeah. i'll give that a try and report back.
[16:14] <lmat> adamk_: You'll be happy to know (but not as happy as me) that everything seems good after the jockey install :)
[16:14] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: I see the page, but nothing about exporting rsa keys
[16:14] <lmat> adamk_: Oh, including the unity_support_test :)
[16:15] <Fedor_Mihalych> hi there, can somebody tell what i should change here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5697353/   to set another midlle-click button (to double it) and double-left-click instead back and forward buttons to my mouse ?
[16:16] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: Well, it's all part of the Launchpad network - you set up an account for those services, and then you can import and edit your OpenPGP and SSH keys from your user page.
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> cheffed: all better?
[16:18] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: Since got to run send me quick email link in private chat or email.
[16:19] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: You got the info or need I pass it?
[16:19] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: tbotnik@gmail.com
[16:20] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: Cheers! Catch you later! Thanks!
[16:22] <xilo> going to details in settings crashes the settings window on 13.04. it's only the details page. any idea?
[16:26] <Kalidarn> nice the latest kernel update causes my machine to kernel panic
[16:27] <Kalidarn> VFS: Cannot open root device "UUID=<uuid>" or unknown-block(0.0: error -6
[16:27] <Kalidarn> anyone else getting that?
[16:28] <chop1n> Kalidarn, what Ubuntu version?
[16:28] <chop1n> I am still on 12.04 LTS
[16:28] <zokko> guys. i need ubuntu repo with zend-framework 1.12 <- can you help me?
[16:28] <Kalidarn> raring ringtail
[16:31] <Kalidarn> so yeah 3.8.0-22 is screwed, 3.8.0-21 works fine though
[16:32] <Kalidarn> bug 1182038
[16:33] <Kalidarn> cd ubuntu-kernel
[16:34] <bobsamfredricks> i am a major ubuntu n00b and am looking for some help...my mouse speed is way too fast even though i have the setting on the slowest. i have posted this but don't seem to be generating much feedback: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/229234
[16:34] <bobsamfredricks> is there anyone who could help me?
[16:34] <th0r> bobsamfredricks: did you try that other mouse?
[16:34] <bobsamfredricks> yeah, tried another mouse, same thing
[16:35] <bobsamfredricks> this machine (Dell Inspiron 14z) dual boots windows 7 and both these mouses work as desired under windows
[16:36] <bobsamfredricks> my plan is to dual boot ubuntu and W7 until i have all the "kinks" worked out of my ubuntu work flow, then i'll dump windows. but this mouse issue is significantly slowing down my productivity in ubuntu
[16:36] <vitimiti> hi o/
[16:37] <jhutchins_wk> bobsamfredricks: Mouse configuration is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - which probably doesn't exist, as by default everything is auto-detected.
[16:37] <Han> To try fixing a problem with xorg I install the xorg from saucy on precise.
[16:38] <Han> Alas I also got the libc6 from saucy. How can I revert to the right libc6?
[16:38] <Han> apt-get install --reinstall libc6 says it can't download libc6
[16:38] <jhutchins_wk> bobsamfredricks: See if you can get what you need from these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MouseCustomizations http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/ubuntu-13-04-gains-improved-mouse-touchpad-settings
[16:38] <bobsamfredricks> jhutchins_wk: yeah, no xorg.conf file at that location
[16:39] <k-stz> bobsamfredricks: try a different usb-port for the mouse, those at the back of pc for example.
[16:39] <bobsamfredricks> jhutchings: thanks, i'll look at the link now
[16:40] <bbbb> principe di persia
[16:40] <bobsamfredricks> k-stz: i tried 3 different ports just now, same thing
[16:42] <k-stz> I just found this, someone said it helped him fix the issue for ubuntu 12.04: http://www.gdargaud.net/Hack/LinuxMouse.html
[16:43] <bobsamfredricks> k-stz: thanks so much for digging that up. dad duties call so i have to step away but i've saved the link and will look at it soon. thanks!
[16:45] <stevejb`> hello, I am looking for an ssh-client. I am currently using ssh from terminal, but I want to use emacs remotely and i find that, using terminal, it captures some of my hot keys (e.g. Meta-F)
[16:47] <trism> stevejb`: at least in gnome-terminal, Edit/Keyboard Shortcuts/Uncheck "Enable menu access keys (such as alt+f for accessing the file menu)", seems to work
[16:48] <cravip> since last few days my laptop suddenly freezes and then notihng works except shutdown button !! :(
[16:48] <domino> will live usb xubuntu lts idle speed be nearly the same as installed?
[16:48] <stevejb`> trism: thank you. I am using XFCE and there was a similar option in their terminal
[16:52] <NEone> hi. Wanting to add programs to automatically startup at boot. I only have CLI, no GUI/xwindow.
[16:52] <zokko> guys
[16:52] <zokko> what about zend repo?
[16:53] <DJones> zokko: As I said earlier, there doesn't appear to be a repo or ppa with zend 1.12 in it
[16:53] <NEone> Is this one still the right approach to start apps at boottime?: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7221757/run-automatically-program-on-startup-under-linux-ubuntu
[16:53] <zokko> DJones: oh, i haven't seen your response. thank you.
[16:53] <zokko> i need to update from 1.11.11 to 1.12 :(
[16:54] <DJones> zokko: As far as I can see, you'd have to install it manually
[16:54] <cravip> any help with freezing issue ?? all data is lost
[16:54] <zokko> DJones: do you know if simple replacing files will work? :-)
[16:55] <DJones> zokko: I've no idea, its not something I've used, looking at the zend website though, they have an IRC channel on freenode #zftalk There may be somebody in there that will be able to help you
[16:56] <zokko> DJones: i havent found that channel, tried #zend and similar. thank you!
[17:04] <asdf33666> fs
[17:05] <rysh> Using xubuntu but always have crashed with one-conf. Can I somehow disable this package?
[17:05] <dennis__> hello
[17:07] <asdf33666> any way to recover deja dup  encrypted backup password?
[17:08] <dev___> I'm trying to build up a machine to run Ubuntu Server for about 6 developers to ssh into. What's the best way to determine what hardware will work and are there any lists on suggested prebuilts to use for something like that?
[17:08] <K1lleD> hello guys i have problem with audio on my ubuntu 12.04. Crackling in "counter strike 1.6" with wine. yesterday i had same problem with skype, but i change one file (build from internet) and skype sound was fixed.
[17:08] <K1lleD> but in game is still bad
[17:09] <asdf33666> ubuntu is getting bad
[17:10] <trism> rysh: you can just uninstall oneconf if you like, assuming you don't care about having ubuntu software-center (which requires it)
[17:11] <trism> rysh: otherwise you're probably stuck with it
[17:12] <rysh> trism, thanks. but somehow the apt-get --purge remove command gives me: Package 'oneconf' is not installed, so not removed
[17:13] <rysh> although it still crashhes
[17:14] <ubuntu12312> I just reinstall windows on another partition, ran boot-loader on using an ubuntu live-cd and it gave me an error -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5697626/ <-
[17:14] <cronos_> Salut tous le monde hello world
[17:14] <famax8> K1lleD, there is CS 1.6 for ubuntu no need for wine
[17:15] <famax8> cronos_, hi
[17:15] <ubuntu12312> " An error occurred during the repair." -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5697626/
[17:15] <K1lleD> famax8:  non steam..
[17:15] <K1lleD> i dont have steam acc
[17:15] <famax8>  r for cs
[17:15] <famax8> K1lleD, is free for CS 1.6
[17:15] <famax8> K1lleD, and is free account on steam always
[17:16] <K1lleD> i can play free counter strike 1.6
[17:16] <K1lleD> with steam
[17:16] <K1lleD> srsly?
[17:17] <famax8> K1lleD, opening an account is free yes
[17:17] <K1lleD> yeah i know that actualy i have acc but i never play games, because need money
[17:17] <K1lleD> 0.o
[17:19] <trism> rysh: strange, do you get any additional output, maybe something you could pastebin or screenshot?
[17:19] <trism> rysh: during the crash, not from apt-get
[17:20] <layer3> [iris907] I'm behind a HTTP-only firewall (even worse than just ports 80 and 443, it actually blocks all non-HTTP traffic); can I mount a network drive I have at home over the HTTP protocol?
[17:20] <famax8> K1lleD, so get steam on ubuntu
[17:20] <layer3> [iris907] Sort of like you can do with SSH: <http://dag.wieers.com/howto/ssh-http-tunneling/> but with mounting instead.
[17:20] <rysh> trism, I already clicked away the window from the crash rapport. Any idea how to get this back?
[17:21] <trism> rysh: no easy way I know of to get to that exact window, though you could look in /var/crash/ and it will give you the path to the command that crashed
[17:22] <trism> rysh: and you could do: ubuntu-bug /var/crash/crashfilename; if you wanted to report it, but it won't take to back to the same dialog
[17:22] <trism> rysh: at least I don't think it will
[17:25] <SolarisBoy> ls
[17:25] <SolarisBoy> oy - wrong window
[17:25] <nube_> Hi
[17:25] <rysh> trism, OK this is embarrassing. :-) ... I put the command to remove the package while i was logged in to another machine running linuxmint ... forgive me. Have removed this package together with the software center
[17:25] <nube_> When I installed ubuntu, I forgot to check the "encryp my home" option. How can I encrypt my account?
[17:26] <rysh> trism, I do always my package installs and removals with apt so no need for this software center :-)
[17:26] <nube_> doesn't see, to be any option in Settings -> User accounts"
[17:28] <yeats> !encryption | nube_
[17:29] <trism> rysh: I've certainly done the same before, all the ssh windows tend to look the same
[17:30] <seronis> is it safe to run  "dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -c9 > Packages.gz"  inside of  /var/cache/apt/archives/  and to have computers on your lan list each other as an entry in sources.list ?
[17:31] <rysh> trism, Thanks anyway!! :-)
[17:32] <nube__> How do I use the HUD, Web apps?
[17:32] <nube__> I think mine is broken
[17:35] <preyalone> Can someone help me fix my broken apt? I ran `do-release-upgrade`, and haven't been able to update my packages since.
[17:37] <killer> hey...how can i recover accidently deleted drives data
[17:41] <nube__>  anyone know how to get web apps to work
[17:41] <adamk_> nube__: What do you mean by that?
[17:41] <preyalone> killer: Google it. nube__: Be more specific.
[17:42] <nube__> Ok, when I press alt, there is just a search bar that appears for firefox
[17:42] <nube__> Although I have about 10 web apps insalled - reddit, google docs, gmail, calandar, etc
[17:42] <nube__> I can't seem to use anything but firefox
[17:43] <nube__> I seem to have this problem
[17:43] <nube__> http://askubuntu.com/questions/200789/how-to-access-the-menu-of-the-webapp-using-hud
[17:44] <preyalone> nube__: Web apps might not be indexed by the Ubuntu app searcher.
[17:45] <nube__> so how do I fix that?
[17:45] <preyalone> nube__: Try bookmarking the web apps.
[17:46] <nube__> I have them bookmarked
[17:46] <nube__> for exampple I am on reddit.com
[17:46] <nube__> I have it bookmarked
[17:51] <nube__> When I press ALT something is supposed to happen, right?
[17:51] <nube__> It just brings up a search over firefox
[17:51] <ThinkT510> nube__: hold down the super key to find out what keyboard shortcuts are in unity
[17:52] <ThinkT510> nube__: super key = windows logo
[17:53] <nube__> ok
[17:53] <nube__> But can you tell me what sort of feature this web app has or another
[17:53] <nube__> so I can try to see if it works
[17:53] <nube__> I have not used a web app before
[17:54] <jakemp> my desktop keeps locking up every few hours
[17:54] <jakemp> not running anything CPU intensive
[17:54] <nube__> No matter what page I am on, if I press ALT or hold it
[17:54] <jakemp> or IO intensive
[17:54] <jakemp> this is new with 13.04
[17:54] <nube__> the menu and search bar are only fore firefox
[17:54] <nube__> not for gmail, reddit, google docs, etc
[18:00] <nube__> ???
[18:00] <nube__> !encryption
[18:04] <nube__> how can I change the passphrase for my encrypted home
[18:04] <morten771> can I copy the whole partition (it is 10 GB or so) to a huge bakup file on my external usb hard disk, but still can mount that big file as a partition so I can use files on it as usual?
[18:05] <plokami666> Hello
[18:05] <morten771> so it is both a "partition backup" that I can restore to the harddisk again (with dd?) if needed, and a "file bakup" where I can easy get files from
[18:05] <morten771> hello plokami666
[18:07] <plokami666> I have a question about usergroups, is this the right place to ask?
[18:08] <lmat_> If I understand correctly, compiz is the window manager for Unity?
[18:08] <ThinkT510> lmat_: yes
[18:08] <lmat_> So, what happens when I run compiz --replace ?
[18:09] <preyalone> I was able to fix my corrupted apt thanks to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1904226&p=11586018#post11586018.
[18:10] <plokami666> Okay, I'm guessing this is a place to ask my question
[18:10] <l9> yeah and if you ask it you might get the answer too
[18:10] <plokami666> Google has failed me on this one. Is it possible to change the default /home directory for new users?
[18:11] <plokami666> As in, instead of it being at /home when user example is made, it would make an example dir under /var/www
[18:11] <lmat_> I open Ubuntu (Unity), run ccsm, select Wobbly Windows and it doesn't work.
[18:11] <lmat_> This should work, right?
[18:11] <plokami666> I'm talking about the automatic home directory when a user is made though. Not manually changing it every time.
[18:12] <lmat_> plokami666: http://bit.ly/10ttAvL
[18:15] <ShaneO> good evening all I recently setup a postfix mailserver and was using squirrelmail as a fronted mail client....everything was working until I accidently removed the dir now upon re-installation the page won't load all I can see is the php code
[18:15] <ShaneO> squirrelmail is set to run out of /var/www/squirrelmail
[18:16] <plokami666> lmat_: Please learn to read. Thanks for the useless response though :)
[18:16] <junix659> hi, i need to i'm trying to install the kernel header packages so that i can compile VMware tools, but when I did it last night, i didn't have the right package.  could someone please tell me what the correct one is?
[18:16] <lmat_> plokami666: hmm...I thought it was pertinent.
[18:17] <lmat_> plokami666: "change the default /home directory for new users?" right?
[18:17] <plokami666> I already spent around 30 minutes looking around google with no valid results.
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | junix659
[18:17] <lmat_> plokami666: The top result appears to answer your question. Does it not work?
[18:18] <lmat_> plokami666: Ohh...how are you creating the new user?
[18:18] <junix659> i just need the proper headers file
[18:18] <junix659> ugh
[18:19] <plokami666> It doesn't seem to work, no.
[18:20] <plokami666> and I'm doing useradd <name>
[18:20] <lmat_> plokami666: hmm, interesting.
[18:20] <plokami666> That's on 12.04
[18:21] <jakemp> how do I find out what is causing my periodic lock ups? They usually go away after a minute or two.
[18:21] <jakemp> on a fresh 13.04  install
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> jakemp: setup locks or system freeze?
[18:22] <lmat_> plokami666: And you tried `useradd -b /var/www username` ?
[18:22] <vesayth> Hi all. Does anyone know if there is a way to adjust mouse sensitivity in 13.04? It appears that it has been merged with mouse acceleration, which I want disabled. I have managed to disable mouse acceleration via xinput but there is no way that I can see to adjust the sensitivity afterwards. This seems like a huge oversight to me from the Ubuntu devs.
[18:22] <jakemp> system freeze, lotuspsychje
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> jakemp: what your machine brand?
[18:23] <James_m> Hi. How to get rid of the initial sound in KUbuntu?
[18:23] <jakemp> lotuspsychje, I have chromium Xchat, gedit and 2 terms open. Lenovo T420, i5 2520, 8GB RAM
[18:23] <MiniD> How do I remove Virtual packages (I am trying to remove ircd)?
[18:23] <lmat_> plokami666: or `useradd -b ...` ?
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> jakemp: ssd hd or magnetic?
[18:23] <jakemp> ssd. New samsung 840 256GB
[18:23] <errrick> http://fidel.cast.ro lol
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> jakemp: did you change bios from IDE to AHCI?
[18:24] <jakemp> yes
[18:24] <RxDx> please, i just bought a lg ultrabook with windows8... how can i enter in BIOS to able the usb boot?
[18:24] <jakemp> and not more fast boot
[18:24] <jakemp> it does the diagnostics
[18:24] <lmat_> plokami666: And you edited /etc/adduser.conf ?
[18:24] <rysh> MiniD, apt-get --purge remove ircd
[18:24] <vesayth> RxDx: Press del or f2 during bootup
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> jakemp: network boot enabled or not?
[18:25] <jakemp> lotuspsychje, I left /var and /temp on the SSD for now, and I have no swap space. No network boot enabled
[18:25] <RxDx> vesayth: didnt work... boots too fast
[18:25] <rysh> MiniD, as root or otherwise use sudo
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> jakemp: i had my acer freeze on ubuntu with network boot off, try set it enable
[18:25] <MiniD> rysh: I still get the message "Virtual packages like 'ircd' can't be removed"
[18:25] <jhutchins_wk> RxDx: It probably doesn't have a BIOS but uses EFI.
[18:25] <vesayth> RxDx: You can tap them repeatedly without worrying. That's what I usually do when it's too fast.
[18:26] <jakemp> lotuspsychje, okay, I'll try that next reboot
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> jakemp: how far you get in ubuntu setup?
[18:26] <RxDx> jhutchins_wk: how can I edit EFI configurations?
[18:26] <trism> MiniD: any output from: dpkg-query -Wf '${Package} - ${Provides}\n' | grep ircd;
[18:26] <jhutchins_wk> RxDx: Look for documentation from your hardware supplier.
[18:26] <jakemp> lotuspsychje, it's installed.
[18:27] <jakemp> been using it for a day
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> jakemp: oh sorry, any logs with relevant errors on your freeze?
[18:27] <jakemp> no idea
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> jakemp: you might wanna check /var/log/syslog.1
[18:27] <rysh> MiniD, indeed ... apt-cache show also shows "apt-cache show ircd N: Can't select versions from package 'ircd' as it is purely virtual"
[18:28] <jhutchins_wk> RxDx: One of the goals of Windows8 with secure boot was to make it impossible to boot to another OS.
[18:28] <OhYeah123>  Picture of my whore ex-girlfriend topless: http://imagetwist.com/bht271uw0ng2
[18:28] <jakemp> lol
[18:29] <vesayth> This whole mouse sensitivity thing really has me stumped. I can't find any info out there other than how to disable the acceleration. It's so weird  and backwards that they completely removed perfectly good configuration options in 13.04 that have been working great for years.
[18:29] <bsy2> 3.2.0-44.69 locks up when mounting filesystems. are there reports of ecryptfs related issues?  i can boot 3.2.0-43 w/o problems, and 3.2.0-44.69 recovery boots and runs fine until i try to mount filesystems via safe-x path
[18:29] <MiniD> rysh: ya "dpkg-query -Wf '${Package} - ${Provides}\n' | grep ircd" outputs ircd-irc2 -
[18:29] <MiniD> What do I need to do to remove ircd?
[18:29] <rysh> MiniD, maybe sudo dpkg -r ircd works ?
[18:29] <trism> MiniD: there you go, try removing ircd-irc2
[18:30] <trism> MiniD: no wait, I read the output incorrectly
[18:30] <jhutchins_wk> vesayth: I just posted some mouse configuration info this morning...
[18:30] <trism> MiniD: are you sure you have anything installed? virtual packages aren't real packages, they are just Provides lines in other packages
[18:31] <trism> MiniD: is there a binary that is starting that you are trying to get rid of? could try: dpkg -S /path/to/binary;
[18:32] <MiniD> trism: the irc server is still running so I am assuming it is still installed... (could this be a false assumption)
[18:32] <jhutchins_wk> vesayth: Arch has some good docs: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> jhutchins_wk: this isnt the right channel for arch urls mate
[18:32] <jhutchins_wk> vesayth: So do we: http://askubuntu.com/questions/172972/configure-mouse-speed-not-pointer-acceleration  http://askubuntu.com/questions/8506/decrease-mouse-sensitivity-below-the-standard-limit
[18:33] <nob> What is better for ubuntu? Keepass2 or KeepassX ??
[18:33] <jhutchins_wk> lotuspsychje: Information is information, it's common to xorg.
[18:34] <morten771> will this make a perfect partition bakup:  "sudo dd if=/dev/sda7 of=/media/myusbdisk/bakup.img" (and if I want to access a file on it "sudo mount -ro loop /media/myusbdisk/bakup.img /mnt" (if my / is at sda7) ?
[18:35] <morten771> and can I copy the image back to a real partition with dd on another harddisk if the one I have breaks?
[18:35] <MiniD> It is located in /usr/sbin/ircd ...
[18:35] <trism> MiniD: okay try: dpkg -S /usr/sbin/ircd; see if you get a package name
[18:36] <vesayth> jhutchins_wk: neither of those options work
[18:36] <vesayth> xinput doesn't have any settings for sensitivity, only acceleration
[18:36] <vesayth> and the system settings mouse dialog merged acceleration with sensitivity in 13.04
[18:37] <vesayth> making it impossible to use that dialog to adjust them independently of one another
[18:37] <MiniD> Ok thanks I got the package name of "ircd-irc2" and was able to remove it with apt-get autoremove
[18:37] <vesayth> this wasn't a problem in 12.10 or prior. In fact, I don't think it's ever been a problem in the history of Linux
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> vesayth: did you upgrade or clean install raring?
[18:40] <vesayth> lotuspsychje: clean install. It isn't a bug from what I can tell. In fact, various articles online are touting this new "feature" as an improvement
[18:42] <vesayth> lotuspsychje: example article from omgubuntu if you search "13.04 mouse acceleration." Not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to those sites in here?
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> vesayth: im already on that page tnx :p
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> vesayth: Pointer Acceleration’ and ‘Pointer Sensitivity’ have been merged
[18:43] <vesayth> lotuspsychje: Right. That's what I understand. But that is the most awful thing ever. There must be a way to get around it
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> vesayth: lemme check in unity-tweak-tool holdon
[18:44] <OerHeks> or maybe dconf, should have mouse settings too
[18:44] <vesayth> lotuspsychje: so far I have tried xinput and dconf with no success in either place
[18:45] <vesayth> both only have options for acceleration
[18:45] <vesayth> i have used xinput to disable the acceleration, which is fantastic, but I can't adjust the sensitivity afterwards making it moot
[18:46] <abc__> Hi guyzzz
[18:46] <abc__> can any 1 tell me if MS SQL SERVER can be installed on Ubuntu 13.04?
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> vesayth: sorry its not in unity tweak tool
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | abc__
[18:47] <Guest13729> ciao
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> !it | Guest13729
[18:47] <thebwt> is there a way to configure permissions on a directory, such that all file created within the directory have group ownership set to a specific group?
[18:47] <OerHeks> abc__, check the wine database for ms software
[18:47] <Guest6757> hey guiz
[18:47] <vesayth> lotuspsychje: thanks anyay. I guess I just have to go back to 12.10 as this is a complete dealbreaker for me.
[18:48] <vesayth> anyway*
[18:48] <jrib> thebwt: sure, use setgid on the directory (or use ACLs)
[18:48] <penguinmessiah> im getting pixilated text randomly
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> vesayth: i did not say there wasnt a workaround...
[18:48] <thebwt> jrib: thanks!
[18:48] <Guest13729> ciao
[18:49] <Guest13729> !list
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> Guest13729: english only here
[18:50] <vesayth> lotuspsychje: Ok, I'll keep looking. I really do like 13.04. It's surprisingly fast comparatively to its unity predecessors. I just can't believe they would break something so simple as this. I guess that's the cost of them getting rid of their open process for developing this release.
[18:51] <abc__> vesayth : i don't find it application developer friendly.....
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> vesayth: you can always discuss this issue in #ubuntu-offtopic, im happy with all improvements ubuntu does so far..
[18:52] <giltron2000> hey, i followed the installation guide at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Ycx2K2OeY which uses wubi. can i change the amount of disk space ubuntu gets now?
[18:52] <abc__> can't find any good RDBMS to start on....
[18:52] <Guest13729> hello
[18:52] <giltron2000> Anyone?
[18:52] <abc__> which is compatible with ubuntu
[18:53] <Guest13729> !list
[18:53] <Pricey> Guest13729: What's up?
[18:53] <giltron2000> hey, i followed the installation guide at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Ycx2K2OeY which uses wubi. can i change the amount of disk space ubuntu gets now?
[18:54] <genii-around> !info firebird
[18:54] <genii-around> Hm
[18:54] <giltron2000> does anyone have experience with wubi?
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> !wubi | giltron2000
[18:55] <giltron2000> can i change the amount of disk space ubuntu gets now?
[18:55] <Guest13729> ciao
[18:55] <BluesKaj> giltron2000, yeah ,but it's not a real linux experience
[18:55] <DJones> Guest13729: What do you need help with?
[18:56] <giltron2000> yeah, i know. i followed this tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Ycx2K2OeY
[18:56] <Honvai> can we give permission to open terminal in ipad ios 6.1.3?
[18:57] <Guest13729> !list
[18:57] <penguinmessiah> hey guys my words randomly are pixilated
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> Honvai: this is an ubuntu support channel mate
[18:58] <Honvai> i see
[18:58] <junix659> !list
[19:00] <junix659> can someone point in the right direction for stablility of the ubuntu repos?  I have no idea what multiverse is?  is that like testing for debian?
[19:01] <BluesKaj> !repositories | junix659,
[19:01] <penguinmessiah> can i get help with a display problem???
[19:02] <pro97> ciao
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> !it | pro97
[19:03] <genii-around> giltron200, lotuspsychje ... from Raring onwards Wubi has been dropped
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> genii-around: tnx for info mate, someone should remove trigger...
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> genii-around: or is it still active for 12.04 lts?
[19:04] <genii-around> lotuspsychje: It's still valid for previous versions which are still suypported
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> ic
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[19:04] <genii-around> lotuspsychje: Yes, just 13.04 onwards will be without it
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> genii-around: any alternatives for users wanting making an usb for ubuntu?
[19:05] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, ppl will still try it, best to have a factoid for a the time being...better than having to explain wubi manually
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: i know, and unetbooting is even worse for beginners
[19:06] <Anonymizer> hey all
[19:06] <genii-around> lotuspsychje: unetbootin  to make an usb image. But installing *buntu inside of Windows will no longer be an option
[19:06] <Anonymizer> i need some help in creating a batch file
[19:07] <Anonymizer> any smart people that can help me?
[19:07] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, I haven't tried unebootin , but I've seen plenty of trouble with it reported here
[19:07] <Mike3620> hping3: you must specify only one target host at a time  << how do I fix this. I am only pinging one host
[19:08] <genii-around> Anonymizer: If what you're thinking of is a shell script written in bash, you may want to enquire in the #bash channel
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> genii-around: i hope the future brings another alternative, to make ppl switch easy..
[19:09] <penguinmessiah> can i get some help with a visual issue?
[19:09] <Anonymizer> i want to create a batch file that pings a website and if there is no response it should dc and reconnect the internet connection again until it pings
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> penguinmessiah: ask your question here once in a while mate
[19:12] <Anonymizer> will it work in windows?
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> Anonymizer: this is an ubuntu support channel mate
[19:13] <lucjan> how to change channel?
[19:13] <DJones> Anonymizer: This is Ubuntu support, if you're looking for Windows support, you should ask in ##windows
[19:13] <roasted> lotuspsychje: ubuntu-offtopic is not a support channel...
[19:14] <lucjan> hello im first time here so if i can ask- how can i change channel
[19:14] <genii-around> lucjan: /join #channelname
[19:14] <lucjan> thx
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> roasted: i told vesayth he could 'discuss' this new feature, i did not send him for support..
[19:14] <lucjan> join #polen
[19:14] <genii-around> lucjan: You need the / in front :)
[19:15] <roasted> lotuspsychje: I understand. I just wanted to point that out. :)
[19:15] <Anonymizer> im getting ubuntu and backtrack soon
[19:15] <Honvai> hello. What is the command to format ipad?	
[19:16] <genii-around> Anonymizer: If you want a Windows batch file script, enquire in ##windows ... if you want a bash script for Ubuntu or other linux, enquire in #bash
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> Honvai: i already told you this is an ubuntu support channel, not for ipads
[19:16] <DJones> Honvai: This is Ubuntu support, not Apple/Ipad
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> lol ppl cant read anymore these days :p
[19:17] <BluesKaj> maybe he wants to format to ext4 and install u8ubuntu on his Ipad :)
[19:17] <Honvai> apple/ipad do not have support for my request i think
[19:17] <Anonymizer> thanks
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: :p
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Honvai
[19:18] <lucjan> 1 question more - how i can check system (CPU, HDD, RAM) on UBUNTU?
[19:19] <OerHeks> lucjan,  try a nice conky script
[19:19] <madel1> my netinst text-mode installer seems to do nothing when reaching the "download installer components" step. It reacts to key strokes but all that seems to be left functioning is restart...
[19:19] <OerHeks> !conky
[19:19] <lucjan> from terminal?
[19:19] <madel1> does that sond like something known to anyone?
[19:20] <lucjan> or i need download first?
[19:20] <OerHeks> !info conky
[19:20] <genii-around> lucjan: If you want fairly extensive iunformation: sudo lshw
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> lucjan: indicator-multiload is also cool
[19:23] <francesc1> è possibile abilitare i driver proprietari da terminale?
[19:23] <puff> I have an IBM thinkpad t520 with nvidia graphics, currently running ubuntu 12.4 LTS.  Historically I've needed the alternate installer to get ubuntu installed on this machine.  The alternate installer is discontinued since 12.10... is there a known solution for this?
[19:23] <DJones> !fr | francesc1
[19:23] <francesc1> you can enable the proprietary drivers from terminal? i'm italian
[19:24] <DJones> francesc1: Sorry, first glance I thought it was French
[19:24] <lucjan> THX  SUDO LSHW is very good i have what i need on more time thx
[19:24] <francesc1> DJones, ;)
[19:25] <jhutchins_wk> puff: The presumption is that the regular installer can now handle the things that the alternate installer was for.
[19:25] <jhutchins_wk> puff: This may or may not be true for you.
[19:26] <jhutchins_wk> !it
[19:27] <User123> tu
[19:28] <User123> Hello all, I seem to have a problem with apt-get update
[19:28] <puff> jhutchins_wk: Joy.
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> User123: can you pastebin the output here in channel?
[19:30] <Honvai> What is the command to format ipad, leaving only on screen keyboarn and dos using terminal?
[19:30] <DJones> Honvai: That is not an Ubuntu question, please stop asking
[19:30] <rymate1234> Wit
[19:30] <rymate1234> *wut
[19:31] <Diranged> why do my .changes files created with debuild always say 'Distribution: lucid-proposed'… regardless of what distro I build on?
[19:31] <nob> anyone use keepass?
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> nob: its better you just ask your issue in channel mate
[19:32] <blebaford> I've got Firefox 18 after running apt-get update. Is there an elegant/right way of upgrading to the latest version?
[19:32] <nob> Just wondering whether to use Keepass2 or KeepassX in ubuntu
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> nob: both packages show in info
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> nob: keepassx is cross platform
[19:35] <jhutchins_wk> !poll
[19:35] <nob> so which would you suggest?
[19:35] <Lloir> Hey guys, a friend of mine is having issues installing ubuntu, it gets to about 50/60% and the installer freezses
[19:35] <Lloir> *freezes
[19:36] <trism> Diranged: it takes the distribution from the top entry in debian/changelog
[19:36] <sere> blebaford: 21 should be in the repo
[19:36] <niel> The windows installer wont work I have the right bit http://pastebin.com/cuf6CDww
[19:36] <niel> I dont understand the errors
[19:36] <francesc1> please, I need to install a server with raid 0. is better than software-raid or fakeraid?
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> !raid | francesc1
[19:37] <nob> when i select a video driver should I choose
[19:37] <nob> AMD fglrx or fglrx-updates
[19:38] <sere> AMD fglrx
[19:38] <nob> what is the difference?
[19:38] <sere> updates
[19:39] <wurm> hey tich are u here?
[19:39] <wurm> ops wrong chan
[19:39] <nob> aren't updates good?
[19:39]  * zcul is confused.
[19:40] <blebaford> sere: so when I run sudo apt-get update, I should have the latest version? I just did it again and I still have Firefox 18.
[19:40] <shadows> In gedit Text Editor, I do View | Highlight Mode | Sources ...   but the sub menu has too many items, how do I select the ones that are off-screen?
[19:41] <nob> or is no updates more stable?
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> shadows: you want highlight coloured text sorting?
[19:42] <sere> blebaford: sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[19:42] <francesc1> lotuspsychje, thank you very much
[19:42] <shadows> lotuspsychje: ah, yes.  update... I just tried it and this time there's an Up/Down on the submenu context, so now I can access the one I want
[19:42] <OerHeks> blebaford, what ubuntu version?
[19:42] <trism> shadows: did you try again? there seems to be a bug in indicator-appmenu (or perhaps gtk) where the menu doesn't display the scrolling arrows until the second time you look at it
[19:42] <shadows> trism: correct you are!
[19:42] <shadows> trism: got a bug # handy?
[19:43] <bobsamfredricks> anyone willing to take a look at my mouse speed adjusting troubles posting and offer feedback? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/229234
[19:43] <trism> shadows: I do not, I just noticed it in okular when I have too many bookmarks, let me take a look
[19:43] <jhutchins_wk> blebaford: update only updates the catalog.
[19:44] <User123> I am on a 1.66GHz processor with 1024MB of RAM. Should I keep Xubuntu or try out Ubuntu? I need a friendly interface as I am not well-educated with Linux :)
[19:44] <shadows> trism: this is easy to reproduce problem, lets make sure it is reported
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> User123: i would go for ubuntu 13.04
[19:45] <jhutchins_wk> User123: I would recommend sticking with xubuntu.
[19:45] <sere> User123: if your looking to a like distro i would recommend lubuntu
[19:45] <shadows> User123: full Ubuntu experience is more dependent on RAM and GPU compatibility, you could try the livecd to see how well it works :)
[19:45] <sere> lite weight*
[19:46] <jhutchins_wk> User123: You don't have to reinstall, you can just add lxde for lubuntu or gnome for regular ubuntu.
[19:46] <SolarisBoy> +1 ^
[19:46] <szahrat> ubuntu
[19:47] <szahrat> im using ubuntu now but it was crashing a lot during installation
[19:47] <jenev> hey guys there's a driver for a networks adapter, that I used before, that was working on ubuntu 9.04
[19:47] <jhutchins_wk> User123: I have a box with a 2.8G processor and 1G of RAM and it's not very happy with Unity.
[19:47] <jenev> the driver is at76c503_usb
[19:47] <User123> I shall continue with Xubuntu. However, I am currently having an issue with apt-get upgrade. Could I post the pastebin?
[19:47] <jenev> but now it doesn't work on ubuntu >10
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> jhutchins_wk: what grafix card inside that box?
[19:47] <jhutchins_wk> User123: Use paste.debian.net, and give us a general summary here.
[19:48] <jenev> is there anyway to upgrade to ubuntu >10 and maintain the same driver?
[19:48] <jhutchins_wk> lotuspsychje: Intel 910
[19:48] <User123> http://paste.debian.net/6381/
[19:49] <shadows> jenev: I suggest you ask the at76c503a user forum
[19:49] <User123> I'm not sure when this began happening. I'm a new linux user and I am not educated in this field at all. I had my Xubuntu OS not booted for a couple weeks. I come back and try to update, and this is what I'm getting now
[19:50] <shadows> jenev: Ubuntu supports upstream drivers only, and personally I did a quick search to try and find help for you but I don't see any
[19:50] <jenev> shadows: what do you mean "upstream drivers"?
[19:51] <jenev> and a driver is present on version 10 and upwards it just seems to be buggy
[19:51] <szahrat> buggy in what way?
[19:51] <User123> Any thoughts? :o
[19:51] <jhutchins_wk> User123: dpkg-reconfigure --all
[19:52] <shadows> jenev: drivers must be accepted by the Linux Kernel developers or else, it is the responsibility of the manufacturer / author to make sure this happens or they update it themselves
[19:52] <shadows> jenev: in the case of a "rogue" driver and no one maintains it for newer Linux Kernel interfaces then you're just out of luck?  You could learn to program and update it yourself possibly
[19:52] <jenev> szahrat: I can't say exactly 'how' but the adapter doesn't connect to any networks
[19:53] <Diranged> trism: hmmm is there any way to make that dynamic?
[19:53] <Diranged> tirsm: because we use the same changelog to build the package on different platform
[19:53] <Diranged> s
[19:53] <shadows> jenev: hopefully there is another person out there who fixed it themselves and shared the improvements, but you have to find that with some research
[19:54] <jenev> shadows: ok, will search around some more
[19:54] <trism> Diranged: might ask in #ubuntu-packaging , I don't know how others do it, I just use a bit of sed to update the distribution
[19:54] <Diranged> ok
[19:54] <Diranged> thanks
[19:55] <nob> ok, I installed the fglrx drivers
[19:55] <nob> and now in the bottom right of my screen I have a watermark that says "AMD UNSUPPORTED HARDWARE"
[19:56] <trism> shadows: don't see a bug for it immediately, looking more like a gtk bug, since I can reproduce it with: UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 gedit;
[19:56] <shadows> trism: interesting
[19:57] <shadows> trism: would you kindly point me to the bug # if you file?
[19:57] <adamk> nob: Save this script and run it as root: http://pastebin.com/uqHsB1Mc
[19:58] <nob> screw it
[19:58] <nob> I'm just installing windows
[19:58] <adamk> Bye
[19:58] <nob> been inputting inumerable commands for the last day trying to get ubutu to work
[19:59] <nob> i'll try again in 5 years
[19:59] <shadows> nob: weird watermark, never heard of that one
[19:59] <nob> it's one of about 10 problems i have atm
[19:59] <nob> another is that i start the computer it says "/dev/maper/cryptswap1 not running or not read"
[19:59] <BlueEagle> nob: Please stop the rant and take it to off-topic.
[19:59] <shadows> nob: what graphics card?
[19:59] <nob> hd 7700 i think
[20:00] <jenev> shadows: is it possible to use ndis wrapper for the device?
[20:00] <jenev> note that the adapter is usb
[20:00] <shadows> jenev: Possibly... I've done that before for USB device
[20:00] <nob> maybe i will try reinstall one more time
[20:00] <nob> this will be the 3rd reinstall in 24hrs..
[20:01] <gordonjcp> nob: why do you keep reinstalling?
[20:01] <shadows> jenev: what's the make and model of your device?  would research that and "ndis wrapper" and say a recent 3.8.x kernel release of Ubuntu like uh  12.10
[20:01] <adamk> What do you think reinstalling is going to do for you?
[20:01] <nob> gordonjcp: ubuntu giving random errors and stuff not working
[20:01] <gordonjcp> nob: "random errors"?
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:01] <adamk> And why would reinstalling suddenly make things work, if it hasn't the first two times you installed.
[20:02] <gordonjcp> adamk: exactly
[20:02] <shadows> nob: may be a case of your hardware is "too new" and not all the issues have been triaged
[20:02] <gordonjcp> nob: no OS gives "random errors"
[20:02] <nob> gordonjcp: now it is telling me the swap file is not loading, adn the AMD hardware is unsupported
[20:02] <xatcon> not able to update 12.10 from 12.04
[20:02] <nob> shadows: this computer is at least a year old
[20:02] <gordonjcp> nob: pastebin the error message *verbatim*
[20:02] <adamk> As for the watermark, that's the fault of proprietary drivers, and I gave you a workaround for it.
[20:02] <nob> dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present
[20:02] <SolarisBoy> nob: did you check the driver supported hardware list before installing the flgrx?
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> xatcon: any errors mate?
[20:03] <shadows> nob: try a very boring install with say no encryption, ext3 (or ext4) filesystem, and mostly defaults don't try to tweak it too far
[20:03] <OCMURF> anybody have expiereince with installing ubuntu on a mac mini 2.1 (2007) with usb on a completely blank drive (no installed operating system on the drive im installing to start with)
[20:03] <gordonjcp> OCMURF: I've installed it on a Macbook of that sort of age
[20:03] <nob> shadows: yep, I don't want to tweak it, I just want to keep it simple and make it work
[20:03] <SolarisBoy> i get the same 'error' because i dont use a swap file on my home box that used encrypted home
[20:03] <xatcon> ya ...failed  to fetch
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> !mac | OCMURF
[20:03] <gordonjcp> nob: then, just go with all the defaults when you install
[20:03] <nob> the default gfx drivers are unusuable, everything just lags
[20:04] <gordonjcp> nob: don't mess about with encrypted drives
[20:04] <shadows> nob: well mate, you're welcome to query (privmsg) me here I wouldn't mind walking through it and determine if it's worth the trouble
[20:04] <gordonjcp> nob: what's your graphics card?
[20:04] <nob> it's an amd hd 7700 i think
[20:04] <SolarisBoy> get an encrypion error so dont use encryption?
[20:04] <SolarisBoy> odd advice
[20:04] <adamk> nob: Seriously, enough complaining about the graphics drivers. If you want to use the propietary driver, and want to remove the watermark, I told you how.
[20:04] <nob> I am now installing the fglrx-updates driver to see if it maeks a difference
[20:04] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: well, get it working first
[20:05] <nob> The standard driver is unusable
[20:05] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: encryption is stupid, anyway
[20:05] <SolarisBoy> gordonjcp: indeed
[20:05] <SolarisBoy> gordonjcp: completely disagree with you on that.
[20:05] <adamk> Sadly, the fglrx driver is known to put an unsupported watermak on supported hardware in some circumstances.
[20:05] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: about the only thing it's good for is ensuring you lose all your data if anything happens
[20:05] <OCMURF> do i just follow the mac 1.1 pages?
[20:05] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: and disks are slow enough as it is, without the crippling performance hit of encryption
[20:05] <gordonjcp> OCMURF: yes
[20:05] <|Slacker|> I keep getting the Unautenthicated sources msg everytime I use Ubuntu Software Center, any help?
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> xatcon: got router or proxy that blocks?
[20:06] <SolarisBoy> gordonjcp: this is your opinion?
[20:06] <nob> isn't encryption important...
[20:06] <gordonjcp> nob: not if you value speed
[20:06] <SolarisBoy> nob: it can be - it depends on your need - if you need it - make it work -
[20:06] <gordonjcp> OCMURF: you will need to create an EFI USB stick
[20:06] <nob> Well it shows this not ready thing
[20:06] <ichat> does anyone know / can tell me  how to remove the ubuntu one  [sub]menuś in nautilus,  i though i removed all of it via the software center just *not* that one,  im using dropbox and gDrive i dont want nor need yet a 3rd one
[20:06] <nob> Then it says continue to wait, or skip
[20:06] <shadows> "isn't having 100 wives important"  maybe for some men...
[20:06] <SolarisBoy> nob: gordonjcp i dont notice any difference on either of my encrypted drivs solid state or rotating disk -
[20:06] <gordonjcp> OCMURF: I don't know if you need to use something like Refind if you're not using OSX
[20:06] <nob> but if I wait 10 seconds its continued
[20:06] <xatcon> lotuspsychje : when getting new pakages .....suddenly abort
[20:06] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: it slowed my machine down to the point that it was unusable
[20:07] <nob> how can I erify if it loaded
[20:07] <SolarisBoy> so i think thats hogwash - if you did it - and it wasn't just because you wanted to explore the coolness of encryption - like you had a reason - then dont NOT DO IT BECAUSE IT DOESNT WORK - thats crazy - and to say encryption is useless - is silly -
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> xatcon: http://askubuntu.com/questions/281445/upgrade-from-12-04-lts-to-12-10-failed-forbidden-downloading
[20:07] <nob> Ok, I am using the fglrx-udates driver now and it does not show the watermark
[20:07] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: I tried it out to see if it made a difference to speed
[20:07] <lufusol> Hello
[20:07] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: it made a huge difference, so I wiped and reinstalled *without* encryption
[20:08] <SolarisBoy> the speed difference is a given - it's about the protection -
[20:08] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: you'd trade "protection" (from what, anyway) for data integrity?
[20:08] <SolarisBoy> when you say im going to encrypt a drive your accepting some speed draw back -
[20:08] <shadows> SolarisBoy: cool it, frood.  I gave advice directed to a newly Ubuntu user and to be clear our Ubuntu installer's idea of "encryption" is a joke that makes it difficult to determine what is working well and what is not
[20:08] <gordonjcp> shadows: yup
[20:09] <SolarisBoy> so provide faulted info to the user?
[20:09] <shadows> On a secondary note, I've used every manner of full disk and file-level encryption available to me
[20:09] <lufusol> I have an installation question/problem, where can I take it?
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> !ask | lufusol
[20:09] <SolarisBoy> to make it easier? what if he is a site where he require an encrypted drive? my last job allowed us to use ubuntu and required encryption on the drive/hom - so why is it a droppable issue?
[20:09] <xatcon> can i put large text if all dont mind
[20:09] <xatcon> W:Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-backports/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]
[20:09] <xatcon> , W:Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-backports/restricted/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]
[20:09] <xatcon> , W:Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-backports/universe/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]
[20:09] <xatcon> , W:Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-backports/multiverse/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]
[20:09] <xatcon> , W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/universe/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[20:09] <FloodBot1> xatcon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:09] <OCMURF> do you have anything to help me get through the process of creating an EFI stick
[20:09] <xatcon> , W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[20:09] <shadows> if you want my _opinion_ on which encryption method is most user friendly, !ask
[20:10] <SolarisBoy> no
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> !paste | xatcon
[20:10] <nob> Ok, now when I try to extend the display across my 2 monitors
[20:10] <nob> I get an error message
[20:10] <lufusol> dont ask to ask haha thats new to me, ok.  just trying to make sure this is the right place.
[20:10] <nob> with the Displays settings
[20:10] <gordonjcp> nob: stop saying things like "I get an erorr message"
[20:10] <nob> and the AMD control panel won't even load
[20:10] <gordonjcp> *error
[20:11] <gordonjcp> nob: say something like "I get this error message - <some error message copied verbatim>"
[20:11] <abc__> how to join channels over here?
[20:11] <nob> "THE SELECTED CONFIGURATION FOR DISPLAYS COULD NOT BE APPLIED. REQUIRED VIRTUAL SIZE DOES NOT FIT AVAILABLE SIE............... FAILED TO APPLY CONFIGURATION: %S"
[20:11] <SolarisBoy> you just said the driver doesn't support your video hardware is the message in the desktop nob - did you validate if that message is correct? is your card/model supported by the driver?
[20:11]  * ichat wondering what about truecrypt i never really used it other than with usb stick does it do FDE
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> !caps | nob
[20:11] <adamk> nob: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, and the output of 'amdcccle' when you run it from a terminal.
[20:11] <abc__> how to join channels over here?
[20:12] <gordonjcp> nob: wow, it prints the error message in allcaps?
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> abc__: type /join #channel
[20:12] <SolarisBoy> abc__: /join #channelname
[20:12] <abc__> and to change nickname?
[20:12] <lufusol> I installed 13.04 x64 from USB on a Lenovo X120e netbook, twice, both times selecting to wipe and use the whole hard drive, and checking LVM option.  I have BIOS set to UEFI boot only (legacy not enabled).  After installation system gives me "Operating System not found" each time, but all the partitions and data were created on the HDD (verified via live boot).  Am I flawed in doing something
[20:12] <lufusol> here?
[20:12] <SolarisBoy> abc__: /nick newnick
[20:13] <OCMURF>  gordonjcp: is there any particular walkthroughs of making an EFI stick for mac mini 1.1-2.1
[20:13] <shadows> lufusol: more likely a case of USB being confused with your hard disk and bootloader going to wrong place
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | lufusol
[20:13] <nob> i did amdcccle and it brought up the amd control panel
[20:13] <shadows> lufusol: also possibly you will have difficulty to boot from an LVM-only system
[20:13] <nob> then it told me to restart
[20:13] <sere> nob: learn how to use linux before you worry about full hd encryption...unless your in a corporate office or playing on hacking and pissing people off you will be fine
[20:13] <nob> so that's what i'm doing
[20:13] <xatcon> showed some sort of network prob
[20:13] <gordonjcp> OCMURF: what have you got running at the moment?
[20:13] <nob> sere: it asked me if I wanted encryption when I made my account, I said ok
[20:13] <shadows> sere: 10 minutes ago called....  weird, huh?
[20:13] <abc__> no luck...
[20:14] <nob> I use encryption on windows and mac with no difficulty
[20:14] <abc__> not even nick name is changed
[20:14] <SolarisBoy> lol you guys are faulting him for his encryption error
[20:14]  * shadows :)
[20:14] <SolarisBoy> thats wicked
[20:14] <wN> lotuspsychje: is that lvm link helpful at all? it soundsl ike he has a grub problem to me.
[20:14] <nob> i thoguht this was meant to be user friendly
[20:14] <abc__> and from where I get the drop doin list channels?
[20:14] <OCMURF> No operating system as the drive i was using has completely crashed
[20:14] <sere> nob: if you have to encrypt a file or folder to secure/hide your data just use seahorse :)
[20:14] <SolarisBoy> nob: ubuntu is - not everyone here helping you is though -
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> wN: if he enables lvm at setup, might be handy to ready lvm tricks aswell
[20:14] <nob> sere: I just wanted to encrypt because this is a shared computer
[20:14] <SolarisBoy> nob: you should also do more to provide exact errors - have you pastied anything yet?
[20:14] <gordonjcp> OCMURF: right, but have you got some means of downloading and burning a CD, or writing a USB stick?
[20:15] <abc__> no luck....
[20:15] <wN> !grub2
[20:15] <gordonjcp> nob: that's not how disk encryption works
[20:15] <SolarisBoy> nob: which makes a lot of sense nob  - a lot - but i guess in this room its a taboo =)
[20:15] <wN> !grub2 | lufusol
[20:15] <abc__> cudn't change ma nick name....................
[20:15] <shadows> nob: there's a pretty big difference in attitude between complaining about something you'd normally pay $ for and complaining about something that is your responsibility to learn about, we're not paid to help you.
[20:15] <SolarisBoy> cop out
[20:15] <wicked> SolarisBoy: sure it is :)
[20:15] <sere> nob: you can pay me if you want :p
[20:15] <shadows> in that we're even here is more to do with other people who treat eachother with respect :)
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> man users are crazy today..
[20:15] <SolarisBoy> =) lol did i hilight you? sorry man
[20:15] <gordonjcp> nob: anyway, keep it simple to begin with; if you have a *really* messed-up install then maybe wiping and reinstalling *and leaving off the binary drivers and encryption* would be a good place to start
[20:15] <nob> so you're saying it's free so I should accept that it is full of errors and bugs
[20:16] <nob> great pitch for linux
[20:16] <wicked> SolarisBoy: no problem ;)
[20:16] <gordonjcp> nob: you're full of errors and bugs ;-)
[20:16] <abc__> solarisboy : I was not able to change my user name....
[20:16] <SolarisBoy> - ok
[20:16] <gordonjcp> nob: Ubuntu works just great for most people, who don't mess about with stuff they don't fully understand when they install for the first time...
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> !repeat | abc__
[20:16] <SolarisBoy> abc__: so you're saying it's free
[20:16] <lufusol> I'm going to check out the restore grub2 link and see if I can resolve thanks :)
[20:16] <OCMURF> yeah ive a windows pc and a ubuntu system with no internet
[20:16] <SolarisBoy> oops dang paste bin =)
[20:16] <shadows> nob: I'm saying that you're being somewhat combative, and it's unattractive.   Want help?  Be more... amicable
[20:16] <sere> nob: i believe linux is more stable and secure than winblows.. just my opinion though
[20:16] <SolarisBoy> abc__: http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html
[20:16] <gordonjcp> OCMURF: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[20:17] <nob> gordonjcp: seriously? I went thru the normal install process, it said make your account, select a tick box to encrypt
[20:17] <gordonjcp> OCMURF: that suggests that burning a CD is probably the best method for now
[20:17] <nob> this is hardly messing with stuff I don't understand
[20:17] <gordonjcp> nob: yeah, leave that off for now
[20:17] <SolarisBoy> here check that page out - look for nick on it - make sure your using it properly and make sure the nickserv isn't giving you a warn/error statement in another window not sure what client your using -
[20:17] <abc__> thank you guzzzzz
[20:17] <nob> ok, so I should reinstall again?
[20:17] <sere> nob: yes! and click NO!
[20:17] <OCMURF> the Disc drive is F***ed it eat a cd and wont return it now
[20:17] <ichat> anyone knowing how to remove the nautilus ´ubuntu one´  menuś  and options  removed all the rest but thisone is hidden somewhere
[20:18] <gordonjcp> OCMURF: okay, then it gets complicated
[20:18] <OCMURF> ate*
[20:18] <abc__> solarisboy : thanks
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> yw abc__
[20:18] <nob> How can I check if the swap was loaded?
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> nob: swapon -l
[20:18] <nob> maybe it just gives that message because it is takign a while
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> nob: i get the same "error"
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> i dont use swap but do use encrrypted hom -
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> *home
[20:19] <sere> OCMURF: shutdown the computer and then try...if still not opening, take out and trying to manual release button
[20:19] <nob> swapon -l invalid option
[20:19] <sere> OCMURF: the drive could be goind bad...or just hungry
[20:19] <Myrtti> xatcon: Floodbot's a bot and can't help you
[20:19] <SolarisBoy> nob: sorry sir - swapon -s typo'd
[20:19] <Myrtti> xatcon: just ask your question on the channel with the pastebin link
[20:19] <nob> ok
[20:19] <SolarisBoy> nob: also check your /etc/fstab and see if you have an entry to mount swap -
[20:19] <xatcon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5698135/plain/
[20:20] <gordonjcp> OCMURF: I'm kind of struggling to find out how to create a bootable Mac USB stick on Linux, I did it from OSX
[20:20] <nob> the /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is there\but it is not used (USED :0)
[20:20] <SolarisBoy> nob: then figure out the model numbe rof your graphics card - and let someone know and the version of the fglrx you installed and what driver you tried before? etc - maybe someone can help
[20:20] <xatcon> got error on upgrading my 12.04 to 12.10
[20:20] <xatcon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5698135/plain/
[20:20] <nob> what is the command to get the model number of my gfx card
[20:20] <sere> nob: lspci
[20:21] <nob> radeon hd 7770 ghz edition
[20:21] <shadows> xatcon: network error?
[20:22] <xatcon> ya
[20:22] <nob> I am going to reinstall now without encryption
[20:22] <xatcon> so every time
[20:22] <abc__> guzz no mirc command is running
[20:22] <nob> the only reason I selected it, because there is a windows partition on this computer belonging to someone else that is full with malware
[20:22] <shadows> xatcon: oh!  that's because if you look, those paths are not on the server
[20:22] <xatcon> so what to do sir
[20:23] <wauf> testing 1 2 3
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> !test | wauf
[20:23] <shadows> xatcon: weird.   Well, in any eventuality you could always download the ISO and there's a method to upgrade using that
[20:23] <sere> nob: if you dont want to use that partition, just dont mount it :o
[20:23] <nob> SolarisBoy: what do you mean you get the same "error" -- is it an error? And how is it you don't use swap
[20:24] <xatcon> hows that
[20:24] <shadows> xatcon: can't remember the HOWTO instructions off hand
[20:24] <nob> sere: but I am worried, maybe some malware can run on the windows and haxor my data if it is not encyrpted
[20:24] <SolarisBoy> nob: i dont use a swap drive but like i said it could be latency to mount it so forth
[20:24] <gordonjcp> OCMURF: this is for Arch Linux but might help -> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/UEFI#Create_UEFI_bootable_USB_from_ISO
[20:24] <nob> SolarisBoy: I thought a swap drive was required
[20:24] <SolarisBoy> nob: it isn't
[20:25] <SolarisBoy> nob: in your case you have one but it wasn't available at the time of mount - that may have something to do with your hardware (or not) but in any event thats what the deal is -
[20:25] <nob> SolarisBoy: when I installed, it said I needed to make a partition for /swap
[20:25] <sere> nob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[20:25] <SolarisBoy> you dont you can skip it -
[20:25] <xatcon> shadows: any solution
[20:25] <SolarisBoy> it wont kill anyone
[20:25] <gordonjcp> OCMURF: if you fancy an "interesting project", I believe that Intel Macs can boot from PXE...
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> xatcon: i pasted you an askbuntu link before with solution
[20:25] <auronandace> nob: only root partition is strictly required (swap is often recommended)
[20:25] <SolarisBoy> swap is not a neccessity it will just say "your not making a swap drive" and let you go ahead - not suggesting it - i do it for a reason - but anyway
[20:25] <lufusol> nob: a bit paranoid to think some windows-based malware is going to look for your pr0n collection on your linux partition and email it to your grandma don't you think?
[20:26] <SolarisBoy> lol
[20:26] <SolarisBoy> well i liked it better when it protected someone from picking up your computer walking away disconnecting the drive - and accessing your data like it was theire @encryption
[20:26] <nob> lufusol: I am more worried about financial stuff and personal details that could be used to rip me off
[20:26] <SolarisBoy> nob: then again - yes - encrypt -
[20:27] <lufusol> nob: was half joking there but srsly that sounds like some pretty specific malware
[20:27] <OCMURF> im in no rush since im done with college so an interesting project would do fine
[20:27] <shadows> xatcon: looked around a bit, in theory if you just try again it should pick a different mirror
[20:27] <xatcon> lotuspsychje : i dont understand
[20:27] <SolarisBoy> nob: did you confirm that the swap entry is in /etc/fstab?
[20:27] <xatcon> ok i will try
[20:27] <SolarisBoy> nob: if so you can try to mount it with -v and see if it throws an error -
[20:28] <nob> ok how do I try to mount it
[20:28] <nob> how can I read /etc/fstab
[20:28] <SolarisBoy> nob: cat /etc/fstab and look for the cryptswap drive - is one way
[20:29] <SolarisBoy> nob: and you can simply sudo mount -av and that should try to mount everything in fstab warning on things that are mounted already -
[20:30] <nob_> ok
[20:30] <nob_> http://pastebin.com/C3YN8DHS
[20:30] <trism> shadows: not going to file a bug on it at the moment, but would be interested in subscribing if you do
[20:30] <nob_> sorry I lost the last thongs you said
[20:30] <SolarisBoy> its ok - let me check your pastebin out..
[20:31] <plasma_> Is there an ubuntu touch channel?
[20:31] <SolarisBoy> #/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0 this is the entry for swap in fstab for the record nob
[20:31] <auronandace> !touch | plasma_
[20:31] <bazhang> #ubuntu-touch plasma_
[20:31] <plasma_> auronandace, bazhang, thanks!
[20:31] <nob_> ok
[20:32] <SolarisBoy> nob: can you do this - and paste the output "df -ah"
[20:32] <SolarisBoy> nob: can you append to that the output of swapon -s thanks
[20:33] <nob_> SolarisBoy: http://pastebin.com/5As8Dpvs
[20:33] <nob_> SolarisBoy: http://pastebin.com/pVNscEuj
[20:34] <SolarisBoy> nob_: try this quickly 'sudo swapon /dev/mapper/cryptswap1'
[20:35] <nob_> swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: swapon failed: Device or resource busy
[20:35] <SolarisBoy> ok your swap seems to be in use then - its active
[20:36] <SolarisBoy> well its not being used because its used size is 0 but yea -
[20:36] <SolarisBoy> nob_: that message you get is probably at boot time and transient
[20:36] <nob_> ok
[20:36] <SolarisBoy> your next issue?
[20:36] <SolarisBoy> do you have the model number of your card (graphics)?
[20:36] <nob_> Well the display issue seems to be resolved now
[20:36] <nob_> it is an HD 7770 Ghz edition
[20:37] <SolarisBoy> ok then - still feel like reinstalling?
[20:37] <nob_> I switched to the flgrx-updates driver
[20:37] <shadows> trism: it's been mentioned "in the wild" https://github.com/fossfreedom/coverart-browser/issues/126
[20:37] <nob_> it seems to work properly now :)
[20:37] <nob_> tx
[20:37] <SolarisBoy> nice work
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> SolarisBoy: another happy ubuntu user :p
[20:37] <nob_> SolarisBoy: the only thing that doesn't work is the Dash and Web apps
[20:37] <SolarisBoy> nob_: take your time in the future and retain the info you got today - you will likely need it again
[20:37] <nob_> but I guess it's not a big deal
[20:38] <shadows> trism: I don't have the technical know-how to file the bug in the correct category ;  is it clearly GTK bug or Ubuntu specific?
[20:38] <SolarisBoy> nob_: no clue about dash/webapps (or why that makes sense ;>) i disable most of those dash plugins when i install =)
[20:38] <SolarisBoy> im too old for that crap
[20:38] <nob_> I hope one day Ubuntu will run without having to input cryptic commands into the terminal
[20:38] <SolarisBoy> nob_: it does that fine now - those crytpic commands are the base of Linux based systems - learn them
[20:39] <SolarisBoy> its your one up over a Window dude -
[20:39] <SolarisBoy> *Windows
[20:39] <nob_> Sure, but if Ubuntu wants to be taken up by the masses
[20:39] <SolarisBoy> - and do trust that when you learn these commands and the underlying system it's not just useful on Linux based systems - you will find that going back to windows you will be empowered with the underlying workings of things -
[20:39] <lotuspsychje> nob_: its already used by the masses
[20:39] <SolarisBoy> nob_: ^ exactly
[20:39] <nob_> Everyone uses Android
[20:40] <SolarisBoy> exactly
[20:40] <nob_> but on android you don't need to enter commands
[20:40] <nob_> it "just works"
[20:40] <SolarisBoy> because they nailed the user experience - its google
[20:40] <nob_> Yeah
[20:40] <nob_> Hopefully Google buys Ubuntu
[20:40] <lufusol> nob_ try rooting your phone and installing an unsupported version of android then tell me it "just works" lol
[20:40] <SolarisBoy> just like Apple nailed there user experience *on top of that bsd shell*
[20:40] <lauratika> is there a way to open application in the background?, now when i start an application opens on top of the application im using which is quite anoying is there a way to change this behvaiour
[20:40] <SolarisBoy> lufusol: haha good one
[20:40] <puff> Lloir: Does the GUI freeze?  If so, sounds like the problem I've historically had trying to install ubuntu onto my thinkpad t520 with nvidia graphics.
[20:40] <lotuspsychje> keep ontopic guys
[20:41] <lufusol> soz
[20:41] <puff> Lloir: In the past, I've had to use the alternate installer CD.  Now there is no alternate installer CD, so I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
[20:41] <SolarisBoy> lauratika: a gui application?
[20:42] <puff> jhutchins_wk: lxde?
[20:42] <sere> lufusol: i like my rooted drid :o
[20:42] <quidnunc> Anyone know how I can get a recent (canary) build of chrome or chromium?
[20:42] <bsmith093> is filezilla guaranteed to grab everything in a directory recurisively, becaue im watching the queue , and the subfolder scanning seems very scattershot, like its missing things?
[20:42] <lauratika> SolarisBoy		: well any application lets say im in opera and open skype or libreoofice or clementine
[20:43] <DJones> puff: You can use the minimal install disk instead of the alternate disk
[20:43] <ssi> how can I get a terminal window to open and execute a script at startup in 13.04 with default environment?
[20:43] <SolarisBoy> lauratika: if your in the standard ubuntu with gnome i believe compiz has a window placement feature
[20:43] <trism> shadows: it would appear to be a gtk3 bug, but it may be an ubuntu specific one, I don't have any other distros set up to test at the moment
[20:43] <SolarisBoy> lauratika: if not there is another thing called devilspie that makes rules for where windows go - it is something you need to configure and doesn't just work - i did hear about a gui for devilspie to assist with configuration
[20:43] <shadows> trism: reporting now
[20:44] <lauratika> SolarisBoy: tahnx!
[20:44] <guntbert> puff: there are at the moment two possible approaches: 1) install server, then add ubuntu.desktop
[20:44] <lauratika> i think i have compiz
[20:44] <SolarisBoy> your welcome lauratika
[20:44] <guntbert> 2) install via minmal CD, puff
[20:44] <elisa87> I have nothing using my resources. What should I do? E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:44] <SolarisBoy> cool so you can see if you have that ccsm (settings manager) and take a look around
[20:44] <SolarisBoy> elisa87: are you privilidged to run the command?
[20:44] <lauratika> SolarisBoy:but will this prevent applications opening on top of another application?
[20:45] <elisa87> yes
[20:45] <elisa87> SolarisBoy: yes
[20:45] <SolarisBoy> lauratika: yes you set the rules to do that
[20:45] <lauratika> SolarisBoy: how do i know if i have compiz installed?!
[20:45] <SolarisBoy> lauratika: for instance you say "i want firefox to always open here" and you set attributes like always on top, or maybe pin to all desktops etc etc
[20:45] <diverdude> Hi, How can rsyslog be running but not listening to a port?
[20:45] <SolarisBoy> lauratika: dpkg -l '*compiz*'
[20:45] <gordonjcp> diverdude: not configured to listen on the port you think it's listening on?
[20:46] <lufusol> Booted from LiveUSB, got boot-repair, followed instructions, ta-da.  Now I just have to figure out how to configure grub to go straight into ubuntu without prompt, but thank you guys (&/or gals)!!
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> im looking for an ubuntu desktop notification script in python that can list msg qeue
[20:46] <SolarisBoy> lauratika: dpkg -l '*compiz*' |egrep '^ii'
[20:46] <SolarisBoy> better ^
[20:46] <nob_> How can I manually install the facebook web app
[20:46] <nob_> it didn't install for some reason
[20:46] <SolarisBoy> nob_: stop installing web apps!
[20:46] <Informaticar86> Does anyone have a sound  problems on youtube with the latest version of Chrome on Ubuntu 13.04?
[20:46] <SolarisBoy> lol j/p do you what you must
[20:46] <nob_> Solarisboy: web apps are the future
[20:46] <lauratika> compiz will belaunched on terminal if i type compiz?
[20:46] <diverdude> gordonjcp, but its standard configuraton...
[20:46] <SolarisBoy> nob_: yea and they belong in the browser!!!
[20:47] <auronandace> lauratika: unity uses compiz by default
[20:47] <nob_> SolarisBoy: I use facebook so much I should probably just get it integrated into my brain
[20:47] <gordonjcp> nob_: web apps are not the future
[20:47] <SolarisBoy> lol
[20:47] <OerHeks> nob_, some webapps or lenses wants you to logout/login to activate
[20:47] <gordonjcp> nob_: for example, how would you do multi-track audio editing as a web app?
[20:48] <guntbert> elisa87: please !pastebin the complete command and its output
[20:48] <guntbert> !anyone | Informaticar86
[20:48] <SolarisBoy> you write classes that hdnale the back end and you make an API gordonjcp
[20:48] <SolarisBoy> that simple
[20:48] <nob_> gordonjcp: at least for web stuff web apps make senes - google products, facebook, etc
[20:48] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: how would that work, exactly?
[20:49] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: bear in mind that you're trying to shove maybe 40 or 50 channels of audio across in both directions at the same time
[20:49] <SolarisBoy> gordonjcp: distrubuted processing
[20:49] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: okay
[20:49] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: and how would you connect that to the "web"?
[20:49] <SolarisBoy> gordonjcp: the api
[20:49] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: okay
[20:49] <SolarisBoy> =)
[20:50] <gordonjcp> and how does 40 channels of 96kHz 24-bit audio get to that API?
[20:50] <SolarisBoy> file upload widget?
[20:50] <SolarisBoy> stream?
[20:50] <SolarisBoy> many ways dude - any thing else?
[20:50] <gordonjcp> "file upload widget"
[20:50] <gordonjcp> riiiiight
[20:50] <gordonjcp> you don't really get the concept, do you?
[20:50] <SolarisBoy> yes? umm uploading a file via a button - common thing
[20:50] <SolarisBoy> i do but i dont get yours
[20:51] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: look at something like Ardour
[20:51] <gordonjcp> how would you make that a web app?
[20:51] <SolarisBoy> lol.. im going to explain something to help you clear this up -
[20:51] <SolarisBoy> sure you can - do you want to is the question?
[20:51] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: consider that a typical use case might be recording and mixing 40 or so audio channels
[20:51] <guntbert> !ot | SolarisBoy gordonjcp
[20:51] <SolarisBoy> web apps should not hinder a process - they should make it easier - why and who would be using ardour (a full production studio software) from a web interface? how realistic is it?
[20:52] <SolarisBoy> and mind you - i use ardour a lot
[20:52] <bazhang> SolarisBoy, chit chat elsewhere please
[20:52] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: this can easily saturate a SATA2 connection.  How fast is your ADSL?
[20:52] <gordonjcp> SolarisBoy: which is why I said that web apps are not the future ;-)
[20:52] <SolarisBoy> bazhang: what do you mean by that?
[20:52] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[20:52] <SolarisBoy> gordonjcp: agree with you on that one point - that everything should not be a web app
[20:52] <bazhang> webapps pro and con to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:53] <SolarisBoy> bazhang: im done - you can stop now -
[20:54] <nob> is there a built in IRC client for ubuntu ?
[20:54] <SolarisBoy> no
[20:54] <auronandace> nob: empathy is installed by default
[20:54] <lauratika> SolarisBoy: sorry got disconetcted
[20:54] <SolarisBoy> np
[20:54] <lauratika> where is compiz now in 12.04
[20:55] <auronandace> lauratika: unity uses compiz by default
[20:55] <lufusol> ubuntu has one up on me, it took me many years to install empathy
[20:55] <SolarisBoy> ill be right back - totalatarian admins make me salty -
[20:55] <guntbert> nob: either use xchat (**not** xchat-gnome) or a CLI based program (like irssi)
[20:55] <nob> empathy does IRC?
[20:55] <lauratika> so where the windows options will be?
[20:55] <auronandace> nob: yes, but i prefer a proper irc client
[20:55] <noslin005> recomended IDE for Php debelopment in ubuntu?
[20:55] <nob> ok
[20:56] <auronandace> nob: empathy was primarily designed with instant messaging in mind and irc was added on
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> noslin005: many ide and dev tools in software centre
[20:56] <nob> auronandace: ok
[20:57] <puntu> HI
[20:57] <puntu> FUCKKKKKKKKKKK
[20:57] <nob> I used to use Chatzilla which was pretty good
[20:57] <genii-around> !language | puntu
[20:57] <DJones> puntu: No cursing in the channel
[20:58] <puntu> yes maam
[20:58] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:58] <puntu> love you ;P
[20:58] <guntbert> !lol | lotuspsychje
[20:58] <puntu> i dont mind
[20:59] <lauratika> nob: opera has a pretty decent IRC client
[20:59] <puntu> ubot!!!!!!!!! GTG CYA LT8R
[20:59] <nob> ktxbai
[20:59] <nob> Ok
[20:59] <nob> Chatzilla is about the best one available for windows I think
[21:01] <erming> irc client for windows? mirc!
[21:01] <genii-around> nob: If you like Chatzilla you can keep using it in Firefox under Ubuntu
[21:02] <SolarisBoy> IDE==vim
[21:04] <BauerUK> i'm looking for a tool to expose scp or rsync transfers as a web user interface. similar to a traditional ftp client (remote|local panes) -- anyone have suggestions?
[21:06] <marko-_-> Hey guys. I am searching for a new laptop and i have no idea what should i buy. These are the requirements: it needs to be solid and made out of good material (not easily breakable), i5 cpu, silent fan, good battery (>2hours) 6gb ram, >500gb hdd, num pad, big enter. I will need it For work, school work, programming, home use, internet, watching movies. It needs linux support. 600€ is my budget
[21:06] <shadows> trism: launchpad bug 1184007
[21:07] <jrib> marko-_-: try ##hardware maybe; this isn't an ubuntu question
[21:07] <jrib> !laptops | marko-_-
[21:08] <lotuspsychje> !info secpanel | BauerUK
[21:08] <BauerUK> lotuspsychje: looks good. i'm looking specifically for a web ui though.
[21:08] <shadows> trism: could you comment to that bug report and make any changes needed or more information?
[21:09] <OCMURF> anybody got a recommendation for a remote control to use with ubuntu and xbmc for a media center im making for my parents gym would need to be simple with few buttons and easy to use
[21:10] <gordonjcp> OCMURF: have they got android devices?
[21:10] <shadows> OCMURF: any old remote they have?  or yeah their cell phone
[21:10] <gordonjcp> OCMURF: for XBMC I thoroughly recommend Yatze
[21:12] <veleno> hello. is there some cluster monitoring tool that shows the current load (as given by htop) on a set of machines (to which I connect via ssh)  ?
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> BauerUK: web ui ftp also good?
[21:13] <OCMURF> nope were all pretty much either Apple iphone or  indestructable workmen phones
[21:14] <shadows> OCMURF: what's your $ budget
[21:14] <BauerUK> lotuspsychje: in a pinch, yeah. i'm using lftp at the moment on the comand line (over ssh) but yeah, ftp would suffice.
[21:15] <OCMURF> 20-30 but im from the uk
[21:15] <shadows> okay lbs then
[21:15] <shadows> OCMURF: I was thinking what about a Wii remote
[21:15] <OCMURF> ha
[21:16] <lotuspsychje> BauerUK: net2ftp
[21:16] <shadows> surely someone has documented using a Wii remote with xbmc
[21:16] <TheMaker> Hiya. Could I get some help, please?
[21:16] <OCMURF> really?
[21:16] <BauerUK> lotuspsychje: great. i'll check that out.
[21:17] <shadows> OCMURF: well in favor of Wii remote is it is easy to find accessories at the store for it in any big box store
[21:17] <OCMURF> how do you connect to the computer with it
[21:17] <OCMURF> is it IR or Bluetooth
[21:17] <shadows> OCMURF: it's standard bluetooth
[21:18] <TheMaker> I'mma just come out and say it. Basically, I'm trying to connect up my Windows machine to my Linux machine using SSH (PuTTy) and I can't seem to connect. And I dunno whattado :(
[21:18] <shadows> OCMURF: some of the protocol stuff needed reverse engineering but that's already popularly available
[21:18] <TheMaker> And I can't edit the etc/ssh/ssh_config file because apparently I'm not owner
[21:18] <siegie> TheMaker: is openssh-server installed?
[21:19] <TheMaker> Uhh
[21:19] <shadows> TheMaker: are you connecting to a LiveCD or an installed system?
[21:19] <TheMaker> I dunno, I literally just installed it
[21:19] <shadows> oh okay
[21:19] <shadows> sudo apt-get install ssh
[21:19] <shadows> it will pull in the packages for both client and server
[21:20] <OCMURF> i guess since it will be used on a tread mill a wii remote would be good since i know them things can take a beating
[21:20] <shadows> try "ssh localhost" from your Ubuntu machine to prove that it is running
[21:20] <TheMaker> Yeah, but I dunno how to do the commands without being connected to the SSH.
[21:20] <Mayank> Hi, if I ping to a website/domain is working but if I wget to the same website , there is no response. I am using ubuntu server 12.04.1
[21:20] <shadows> OCMURF: wii remote looks very nice and so, good luck to you!
[21:21] <TheMaker> I've only ever accessed a Linux machine via SSH before, I've not actually had Linux until now
[21:22] <OCMURF> any protips for using or setting up xbmc
[21:22] <lufusol> thx again for the help which actually helped :) you pointed me to the right FM to R
[21:22] <lufusol> :)
[21:22] <shadows> TheMaker: ah okay... does your Ubuntu installed system have keyboard / mouse / display ?
[21:22] <lufusol> byebye
[21:22] <TheMaker> Yeah
[21:23] <shadows> OCMURF: outside of the scope of this discussion, mate...  lots of XBMC community support though go and research it
[21:24] <OCMURF> well thanks, tip on the wii remote i'd not have thought of that
[21:24] <cmars232> just thought I'd ask, before I go and make it. has anyone ever made a virtual package that conflicts with annoying stock desktop stuff like advertising lenses, stuff like that?
[21:25] <puff> DJones, guntbert: thanks.
[21:25] <Noiro> in gimp, do you know how to select brush size?
[21:26] <shadows> Noiro: great question ha
[21:26] <Noiro> I seriously can't find it. :P Window setup has me confused as anything.
[21:26] <th0r> Noiro: there are a lot of good tutorials online regarding gimp
[21:27] <shadows> Noiro: on Ubuntu w/ GIMP 2.8.4 there's two options;   you can select the Brush (which also impacts size) and then you can scale the size of the selected brush
[21:27] <shadows> it's part of generic Tool Options dialog
[21:27] <shadows> though, yeah look to th0r
[21:28] <Noiro> That's the issue, I don't think I have generic tool options. I set correct brush, but all I see is spacing and opacity, both of which are meh. I am following a tutorial and I just need to make a quick 16x16
[21:28] <sere> go th0r!
[21:28] <shadows> you'll want a tutorial specific to your major version (i.e. GIMP 2.8.x) because these methods changed a bit over the years
[21:29] <puff> DJones, guntbert: Where do I find the minimal?  http://www.ubuntu.com/download only lists desktop, server, cloud and something in kanji.
[21:29] <shadows> P.S. I'm a GIMP hater for icon editing.... good luck on that
[21:30] <Noiro> It's actually for a MC mod. :P
[21:30]  * puff finds https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:31] <elisa87> how can I fix this? RuntimeError: the sip module implements API v9.0 to v9.2 but the PyQt4.QtCore module requires API v8.1
[21:31] <jbinstalls> how do i install a linux version of multiwii?
[21:32] <jbinstalls> i forgot the name of the tool to install jar files
[21:33] <shadows> bailing. take care everyone
[21:33] <Noiro> Found it. The Window is called Tool Options
[21:33] <th0r> jbinstalls: I don't think you install them, you use java to run them
[21:34] <puff> jbinstalls: th0r is correct.
[21:34] <jbinstalls> is java tool  on 12.04
[21:35] <puff> jbinstalls: jar files are similar to tar or zip files, but they contain compiled java programs.  You need java to do anything useful with them.
[21:35] <puff> jbinstalls: Yes, java is available for 12.04.
[21:35] <jbinstalls> got you so i need to actually find java installer?
[21:35] <sergio> hello everyone
[21:35] <puff> jbinstalls: one moment.
[21:36] <williammanda> Does anyone know how to access the panel via the mouse while using mythtv...not using the keyboard?
[21:36] <Guest63820> i hope that every one are safe
[21:36] <puff> jbinstalls: Try "sudo aptitude install openjdk-7-jre"
[21:36] <th0r> jbinstalls: you should be able to run them using either the Java Developement Kit (jdk) or the runtime environment (jre)
[21:36] <jbinstalls> openjdk java is on my bvuild
[21:36] <Nexuus> boy these Nvidia drivers are a pain..
[21:36] <puff> jbinstalls: I need a little mor econtext.
[21:36] <puff> Nexuus: You're telling me... if I never buy nvidia again, it'll be too soon.
[21:37] <Nexuus> took a while, but finally got them working.
[21:37] <Guest63820> i have a problem i just install ubuntu mix Cinnamon 12.04
[21:37] <Nexuus> i guess we're better off with intel?
[21:37] <puff> jbinstalls: Normally you would double-click on the jar file icon and that would cause ubuntu to use java to run the jar file.
[21:37] <Guest63820> [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmpMbve6L/metadata.json'
[21:37] <sere> Nexuus: nvidia drivers couldnt be any easier :x
[21:37] <k-stz> Nexuus: the ones on nvidia's site?
[21:37] <jbinstalls> tried that no joy tried to unzip it
[21:37] <puff> jbinstalls: Or you could try opening a terminal window and typing "java -jar yourjarfile.jar"
[21:38] <Nexuus> I was just about to just give up and stay on Nouveau..
[21:38] <puff> jbinstalls: Unzipping it will not be useful.
[21:38] <puff> jbinstalls: Why are you trying to run a jar file?
[21:38] <puff> sere: Quite easy, also quite useless...
[21:38] <Guest63820> i am trying to install an application online
[21:38] <jbinstalls> trying to run multiwii 2.2 to configure a flight board
[21:38] <Nexuus> Yeah I tried from the software update...but that didn't go over so well.
[21:38] <puff> jbinstalls: I need more context in order to be able to help you.
[21:38] <RiXtEr> Hey guys can anyone tell me how to find the maintainer of a package?
[21:39] <sere> puff: agreed\
[21:39] <Nexuus> so I wound up going to Nvidia's site.
[21:39] <jbinstalls> multii 2.2 is a configuration tool for mwc flight control boards
[21:39] <puff> jbinstalls: What have you done so far?
[21:39] <puff> jbinstalls: multii or multiwii?
[21:39] <jbinstalls> they have a linux version of the software that runs unde java
[21:40] <jbinstalls> multiwii 2.2
[21:40] <puff> jbinstalls: Do you have a link?
[21:40] <jbinstalls> second
[21:40] <jbinstalls> http://code.google.com/p/multiwii/downloads/detail?name=MultiWii_2_2.zip&can=2&q=
[21:40] <genii-around> elisa87: Is this error when you try to open the software center?
[21:41] <Killcraft> is compiling programs better than adding random PPAs from the net?
[21:41] <Nexuus> everytime I get kernel updates now, do I need to be worried about these stupid drivers?
[21:41] <jbinstalls> i have it unzipped but it wont open, i just use linux i dont build it
[21:41] <puff> jbinstalls: Do you have a link to a page that explains how to set up multiwii?
[21:41] <elisa87> genii-around: no I didn't use software center
[21:41] <Mayank> I am trying to open ubuntu.com via lynx. It gets stuck at Making HTTP connection to ubuntu.com .. ping is giving response, but wget is not able to connect. what could be the issue?
[21:41] <genii-around> elisa87: When does this error occur?
[21:41] <jbinstalls> went round n round with a windows version wanted to try linux version
[21:42] <jbinstalls> no data found for how to install the linux version
[21:42] <k-stz> Killcraft: I'd say knowing how to compile your programs is a splendid skill, but they're not packaged then though.
[21:42] <Guest63820> hello
[21:42] <jbinstalls> guess they think all linux users are compilers
[21:42] <grmpy> Mayank: Try "telnet ubuntu.com 80" to get an answer. A ping is no valid test to access a website due these are different protocols.
[21:43] <jbinstalls> puff did u se the download link?
[21:43] <puff> jbinstalls: Hm, you might be better off asking on an arduino channel.
[21:43] <puff> jbinstalls: Hm, there's #arduino.
[21:43] <daftykins> kristenbb: o/
[21:43] <Guest63820> i am getting this message by trying to install an application,,[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmpMbve6L/metadata.json'
[21:43] <jbinstalls> arduino works apparently just cant get multiwii to see the board
[21:44] <puff> jbinstalls: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1432577
[21:44] <grmpy> Mayank: A ping is using ICMP as a network protocol while lynx and wget are trying to connect via TCP, the default port is 80 (for HTTP). With "telnet <host/ip> <port>" you can simulate connects to a host/ip on a given port via TCP.
[21:44] <jbinstalls> i just need a hint on making a linux installation of multiwii
[21:44] <Mayank> grmpy: It says Connected to ubuntu.com. Escape character is '^]'.
[21:45] <puff> jbinstalls: Yes, but this is a very funky, specialized piece of software, you're more likely to find people on #arduino who have figured out how to make MultiWiiConf work with ubuntu than to find people on #ubuntu who have happened to try out MultiWiiConf.
[21:45] <puff> jbinstalls: Check out the link I just pasted.
[21:45] <jenev> hey
[21:45] <jbinstalls> thnks wiull try to sort out how to find arduino channel
[21:45] <puff> jbinstalls: Did you look at the link I just pasted?
[21:45] <puff> jbinstalls: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1432577
[21:46] <jenev> I'm running and intel 64bit processor so does that mean I can use the ubuntu 64 bit iso?
[21:46] <BillJobs> How can I check and see if my drivers are up to date in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[21:46] <sammy> Mayank: try responding with `GET /index.html HTTP/1.1 host: www.ubuntu.com`
[21:46] <BillJobs> for my video card
[21:46] <jenev> because I notice it says "amd64"
[21:46] <puff> jbinstalls: Open up your favorite text editor, create a file named "run.sh" in the directory where you unzipped MultiWiiConf.
[21:46] <Mayank> sammy: <!DOCTYPE: command not found
[21:47] <jbinstalls> thanks puff will endeavor further
[21:47] <sammy> Mayank: well it sounds like you're getting a response of some sort. I'd move on to using wget/curl and adding some debug flags.
[21:47] <sammy> Mayank: and as a personal note, when web browsing in a text terminal (like I happen to be now), I use links2 instead of lynx
[21:47] <puff> jbinstalls: Let's have this convo on #arduino, it's pretty quiet there and this is probably more on-topic there.
[21:48] <wim_> hoi
[21:48] <BillJobs> hello there
[21:49] <Mayank> sammy: yeah, but that does appear to be the issue here. any pointers on what wget/curl debug flags I could use? both curl and wget timeout without the debug flags
[21:49] <wim_> Dutch???
[21:49] <BillJobs> How can I check and see if my drivers are up to date in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS for my video card?
[21:49] <Mayank> grmpy: but if telnet google.com 80 . it gets stuck at trying [ip address]
[21:49] <Guest63820> hello i need help i am trying to install an application but i get this message,, [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmpMbve6L/metadata.json'
[21:50] <sammy> Mayank: timeout? really? thats odd. try enclosing the whole url in double quotes -> "
[21:50] <sammy> Mayank: is it possible there's a proxy involved? are you at home, or at work/school or some other corporate network?
[21:51] <Mayank> sammy: I am behind a firewall at the work place. All the other systems behind the same firewall are able to wget / curl normally
[21:51] <sammy> Mayank: try wget with --verbose
[21:51] <Guest63820> hi
[21:51] <elisa87> How can I run build.py ? Not trusting file /research/jalal/pkg/sip/.hg/hgrc from untrusted user nobody, group nogroup
[21:51] <grmpy> Mayank: Are you using a http-proxy?
[21:52] <Mayank> grmpy: no
[21:52] <Guest63820> hi
[21:52] <BillJobs> Or maybe does anyone know how to setup a custom resolution? The standard display settings aren't recognizing the native resolution of the monitor.
[21:52] <grmpy> Mayank: Are you using IPv6?
[21:53] <Mayank> grmpy: I am not sure, how do I test that?
[21:53] <Guest63820> can some one help me with this problem that am getting: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmpMbve6L/metadata.json'
[21:53] <BillJobs> hello?
[21:54] <szahrat> are the updates of the islamic software in ubuntu ME available in the ubuntu repositories?
[21:54] <Mayank> sammy, grmpy: wget on unbuntu.com is giving a valid response. But it fails on google.com - why?
[21:54] <jrib> Guest63820: without context no one can help you
[21:54] <grmpy> Mayank: For example "ifconfig -a | grep inet6" as root. If you get any addresses you may have configured IPv6 for your device.
[21:54] <sere> jbinstalls: I was looking into those flight controllers for quads and they look really cool, have you build anything like that?
[21:55] <Guest63820> jrib what do you mean, i am trying to install an application get more online and i am getting this message:  [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmpMbve6L/metadata.json'
[21:55] <grmpy> Mayank: When I try to connect to ubuntu.com it replies with a IPv4-address while google.com replies with a IPv6-address. Maybe there is a IPv6-problem on your system/network/firewall
[21:55] <jrib> Guest63820: give more information in your question
[21:55] <szahrat> pick one: ubuntu ce / ubuntu me / ubuntu se
[21:55] <szahrat> :D
[21:56] <Guest63820> well i am trying to install an application and it giving me this message:  [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmpMbve6L/metadata.json'
[21:56] <MelRay> Anyone point me to an easy dummy style howto for setting up dns?
[21:56] <Mayank> grmpy: No thats not set. I am not using IPv6.
[21:57] <jrib> Guest63820: what application?  Installing how exactly? Is that the full output? etc.
[21:57] <sammy> Mayank: thats a good question. I can `wget google.com` and I get a response no problem. if I had to guess, I'd say maybe its a useragent issue? and the proxy is acting weird because youre using wget/curl/lynx etc and not firefox or ie or chrome
[21:57] <szahrat> Guest63820 are you using ubuntu 32 bit or 64 bit?
[21:57] <sammy> Mayank: but it works with ubuntu.com hmm...
[21:57] <Guest63820> i am 64bit
[21:58] <sammy> Mayank: does wget with --verbose give any indication why it falis trying to get from google.com?
[21:58] <Mayank> sammy: it works with ubuntu.com and Google.com on lynx opens fine on another machine
[21:58] <szahrat> Guest63820 do "apt-get install ia32-libs" and it might work
[21:58] <mike> hy
[21:58] <Guest63820> i will try that
[21:59] <szahrat> Guest63820 do it now and let me know
[21:59] <Guest38057> Someone who can help me pl?
[21:59] <Mayank> sammy: nopes, it just says connecting
[21:59] <Guest38057> ok
[21:59] <szahrat> Guest38057 ask
[21:59] <Guest38057> thx
[21:59] <Guest38057> well
[22:00] <Guest38057> I have a big question
[22:00] <Guest38057> I search over the internet days
[22:00] <Mayank> grmpy: I get this as the output - inet6 addr: fe80::92b1:1cff:fe21:b946/64 Scope:Link. So there is a blank for addr: right?
[22:01] <Guest38057> How can I make my ubuntu server visible in public network internet?
[22:01] <szahrat> do you have a static IP?
[22:01] <Guest38057> After I configure my server
[22:01] <Guest38057> I don t really know
[22:02] <Guest38057> my IP is started with... wait a mom
[22:02] <szahrat> have you installed the server properly? any guide that you followed?
[22:02] <Guest38057> with 188.....
[22:02] <Guest38057> yep
[22:02] <Guest38057> my server I can access through my local network
[22:02] <bazhang> !enter | Guest38057
[22:03] <Guest38057> but I cannot allocate a domain
[22:03] <Guest38057> sorry
[22:03] <sammy> Mayank: hrm. at this point I'd want to look at a dump of the actual TCP conversation in something like wireshark
[22:03] <erming> sounds like you need to open the ports on your router
[22:04] <fathands> erming: yep firewall
[22:04] <erming> Guest10813 if you want someone to reach your server from the internet, on your IP-address, you need to tell your router to listen on, for example, port 80 and send that request to your Ubuntu server (point it at the local IP-address)
[22:04] <Guest38057> NOW I learn about portforwording, but I don t know if I config correctly that on my IpTime Router
[22:05] <szahrat> Guest38057 i see... then you probably don't have a static IP... get one from your ISP or you might try to find a free dynamic dns service from the net (your question is not ubuntu related though)
[22:05] <qpucka> can anyone help me with a 12.04 vbox install. i'm getting errors that i cant resolve.
[22:06] <ascidia> hi ubuntu
[22:06] <sammy> Mayank: but I assume if you're using lynx and wget you don't have X windows running? i guess tcpdump could be used. id have to do some googlefoo to find the right commandline. something seems terribly fishy.
[22:06] <bazhang> !find xboxdrv | qpucka
[22:06] <bazhang> whoops
[22:06] <fathands> qpucka: ask erming he is me know it all
[22:06] <Mayank> sammy: looks like this is a ipv6 issue only.
[22:06] <Guest38057> I have a PPPoE connection from my ISP and that go in my router, my server is attach to that router.
[22:06] <bazhang> qpucka, its in vboxdrv-dkms
[22:06] <Guest63820> thank you szahrat it worked you are the men
[22:07] <szahrat> wc
[22:07] <sammy> Mayank: oooooh. I know you can force wget and curl to use ipv4.I bet you can do the same for lynx. thanks for the heads up- I was stumped :P
[22:08] <qpucka> bazhang: i don't see that package "vboxdrv-dkms"
[22:08] <bazhang> virtualbox-dkms   qpucka my error
[22:09] <qpucka> bazhang: should i install that package instead of virtualbox-4.2 ?
[22:10] <newbuntu> For some reason, none of my network interfaces work. Is there a way to reset the ip's and get new ones? I currently have a wifi dongle plugged in, and have 2 ethernet cables plugged into 2 ethernet ports.
[22:10] <bazhang> qpucka, alongside
[22:10] <qpucka> bazhang: thank you. trying now.
[22:11] <Mayank> sammy: thanks for the help.
[22:11] <sammy> newbuntu: in Xwindows or at the command line? you could try something like `sudo service network-manager restart` which would try to restart all networking connections set to be managed automagically
[22:11] <Ari-Yang> hey all, I have a question. why is that hdmi isn't working all of a sudden?
[22:12] <th0r> Ari-Yang: the cable fell out
[22:12] <Ari-Yang> It was working fine last week, I just hook up with hdmi and run xrandr --auto in terminal to get picture on the tv, then simply change the sound
[22:12] <Ari-Yang> lol th0r, I don't think that's it :b
[22:12] <Mayank> grmpy: I disabled ipv6, but now ubuntu.com or google.com both of them are not working. Do I need to restart the networking? - cannot do it right now, I am on ssh and I am afraid if it will come back.
[22:12] <Ari-Yang> but it's strange, xrandr says that hdmi is connected when I run: xrandr in terminal....
[22:13] <newbuntu> sammy: Well. I'm last night my wlan0 was working. After compiling some kernel packages, only lo interface showed up. Currently I've booted into the last kernel and can see my interfaces. However, I can't seem to figure out how to connect to any wifi acesspoints. The icon in the corner doesn't show up.
[22:14] <newbuntu> sammy: nvm.. restarting the network-manager seems to have done the trick to some degree
[22:16] <genii-around> newbuntu: sudo dhclient -r wlan0 to release the dhcp ip it should be getting (or whatever the inteface name is that you see in ifconfig for the adapter you want)   then sudo dhclient wlan0 (or other interface name) to renew the ip. This assumes it is somehow already connected to the AP
[22:18] <newbuntu> genii-around: so now i'm connected to the router.. but DNS seems to fail.. is there a way to manually refresh the DNS cache.. or will tdhclient do that also?
[22:20] <ryanturner> Hi, Im trying to install Ubuntu 13.04 and it's hanging
[22:20] <ryanturner> I'm currently booted live on a thumbdrive, the install is hung on "Who are you?" but there is nno progress bar at the bottom
[22:20] <genii-around> newbuntu: If it's not resolving dns properly, it's likely some setting on your router. Because it's supposed to give that info to your computer at the same time it assigns an ip by dhcp. For expediency if you need immediately, you can always put the Google public DNS ip numbers into /etc/resolv.conf
[22:20] <ryanturner> I pressed Continue and now the buttons are disabled
[22:21] <ryanturner> All fields have checkboxes beside them, as if they were filled out properly.
[22:21]  * wallbrik Image Share -> http://picshare.web.vu
[22:21] <elisa87> I have installed Qtv5.02 but now I receive this error: PyQt5 requires Qt v5.0 or later . what should I do?
[22:21] <newbuntu> genii-around: It works on my other machines. I'll try finnagling it around. IP's do work but it seems the DNS is a little messed up. This is fine for now. Thanks
[22:21] <ryanturner> Here is an image of my 13.04 install hanging... any ideas?
[22:22] <ryanturner> doh
[22:22] <ryanturner> didnt copy
[22:22] <ryanturner> http://i.imgur.com/PHMsZ3p.jpg
[22:22] <nerp> what would the best way be of acquiring an outdated apt package? I need nginx 1.2.8 but all the repositories I am looking in only have the latest version.
[22:23] <Guest38057> please can I talk with a friend fom here about a problem who I have for my server IP in privat>?
[22:24] <ascidia>  /server irc.sorcery.net
[22:24] <meLon> I can `cat /proc/cpuinfo` to get my CPU information, but I have an i3 (Ivy Bridge) and I don't see any information about the graphics.  I want to figure out to which 'HD Series' it belongs.  Any suggestions?
[22:24] <ryanturner> Hi, will someone help me troubleshoot a frozen 13.04 installation? Im installing offf of a thumbdrive. Currently running live off of it, running installer within the live. Trying to install / to a SSD and /home to a 1.5tb HD. The installation is frozen on the "Who are you?" page after I pressed continue, as pictured here: http://i.imgur.com/PHMsZ3p.jpg  Any ideas what to do?
[22:24] <szahrat> guest38057 go ahead
[22:25] <ryanturner> szahrat: can you help me with my install problem?
[22:25] <szahrat> nerp why don't get the older version source of nginx from website and compile it urself?
[22:26] <szahrat> ryanturner ask
[22:26] <ryanturner> Hi, will someone help me troubleshoot a frozen 13.04 installation? Im installing offf of a thumbdrive. Currently running live off of it, running installer within the live. Trying to install / to a SSD and /home to a 1.5tb HD. The installation is frozen on the "Who are you?" page after I pressed continue, as pictured here: http://i.imgur.com/PHMsZ3p.jpg  Any ideas what to do?
[22:26] <ryanturner> szahrat:  ^^
[22:26] <Noiro> can you not drop items into a .zip? I'm not seeming able to, I always get "An error occured
[22:26] <Ari-Yang> do does anybody have an idea why I don't get any picture with hdmi?
[22:26] <Ari-Yang> I'm on ubuntu 12.10
[22:27] <genii-around> meLon: sudo lshw -C display
[22:27] <Noiro> it won't even give me which error
[22:27] <Ari-Yang> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=1Z7n0sG7 this is the output of xrandr with hdmi hooked up
[22:27] <meLon> Thanks genii-around.  That gives me the same info as when I did `lshw -C video`.  They both just say it's  Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller and that is all
[22:28] <szahrat> ryanturner whats ur specs
[22:28] <meLon> genii-around: I want to know if it's HD3000, HD4000, etc?
[22:28] <nerp> szahrat, Installing with puppet and time is an issue. Puppet is set up to pull from apt at the moment and I dont want to rework it right now.
[22:28] <Guest63820> question, do you know, where can i watch movies for free, i know this one www.vheed.com
[22:28] <bazhang> !ot | Guest63820
[22:29] <kostkon> Noiro, under normal circumstances you can. check the file's permissions
[22:29] <adie> hi, is there a built-in way to test for 3d acceleration support in 13.04?
[22:29] <ryanturner> szahrat:  core i5, 16gb ram, 256gb SSD and 1.5tb HD, trying to install "/" on the SSD and "/home" on the HD. I've run ubuntu 12 on this setup before. I switched to windows 8 for work and am trying to switch back now. The installer just wont finish. :/
[22:29] <genii-around> meLon: If you do lspci -nn    it should give you the vendor:product code, something like 8086:abcd    which you can then look up for exact model
[22:30] <Ari-Yang> brb, I'm going to restart
[22:30] <Noiro> kostkon: I have full read/write permissions. It says I can't add an archive to itself, I'm just adding 2 folders. :/
[22:30] <meLon> genii-around: `lspci -nn | grep Intel` shows VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller [8086:0162] (rev 09)
[22:31] <genii-around> meLon: Yes, so here the vendor:device is 8086:0162
[22:31] <kostkon> Noiro, and you are sure that none of these folders contain the zip file in question
[22:31] <meLon> genii-around: When I google '8086:0162 intel' I get http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/h5v3r/ but I don't know if that's really trustworthy
[22:31] <meLon> Thanks for the help genii-around
[22:31] <Noiro> kostkon: one folder is empty, the other only has a png
[22:31] <diverdude> !next
[22:31] <ryanturner> Anyone able to help me troubleshoot my installation issues?
[22:31] <Guest38057> Please someone help me with my server to can access him from public networks
[22:32] <Noiro> I can't drag the png into the proper place either
[22:32] <ryanturner> I just dont know how to even get an error out of this darn Ubuntu installer :/
[22:32] <genii-around> meLon: Better place to look them up is http://pci-ids.ucw.cz/
[22:32] <kostkon> Noiro, ok. have you tried adding other files to it? just pick some at random and try to add them
[22:32] <szahrat> ryanturner try to install again, this time erase your partitions first using gparted (if you want to use ubuntu only); also don't select install updates during installation if you don't need to
[22:32] <ryanturner> szahrat:  I've done that
[22:33] <Noiro> I can add other files, yes.
[22:33] <ryanturner> tried to run the install 4 times
[22:33] <ryanturner> Im not installing updates or extras.
[22:33] <ryanturner> Maybe its the encryption across multiple drives or something? IDK.
[22:33] <meLon> genii-around: http://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/8086/0162 Thanks
[22:33] <ryanturner> quit the installer, going to try it again...
[22:33] <kostkon> Noiro, check again the folder's permissions.
[22:33] <genii-around> meLon: You're welcome
[22:34] <ryanturner> Wont let me quit the installer now.
[22:34] <szahrat> are u encrypting ur installation?
[22:34] <ryanturner> szahrat:  I was trying to, yeah.
[22:34] <szahrat> try it without that
[22:34] <Guest38057> NEED A LITTLE HELP PLEASE
[22:34] <ryanturner> Guest38057:  you're not asking your question
[22:35] <ryanturner> You keep saying "help me in PM"
[22:35] <ryanturner> they probably wont do that.
[22:35] <szahrat> if ur not desperate about encryption that is
[22:35] <Guest38057> MY ENGLISH IS BAD
[22:35] <ryanturner> szahrat:  I guess I can get by without it... I dislike not having it.
[22:35] <Noiro> The folder I'm pulling from has Create and Delete files. I reallly don't want to have to close Eclipse, he never closes in the Tutorial....
[22:35] <Guest38057> BECAUSE I AM NOT FROM THAT PARTS
[22:35] <ryanturner> Guest38057:  stop all caps man
[22:35] <th0r> Guest38057: please stop shouting
[22:36] <duxb> is there a command line  media/mp3 player program that accepts media controls, eg from a keyboard's media controls? or is that impossible because those are handled by X?
[22:36] <ryan_turner> lol the live froze...
[22:36] <speccy88> hi
[22:36] <ryan_turner> This is ridiculously frustrating.
[22:37] <ryan_turner> Guess Im going to reboot szahrat
[22:37] <szahrat> hmmm...
[22:37] <ryan_turner> the installer is totally frozen, I cant quit it, and I dont wanna do a kill -9 with risking some other process being involved.
[22:37] <ryan_turner> So, Im going to reboot, reload hte live, join back in here, and try to restart the installer again.
[22:37] <ryan_turner> BRB szahrat
[22:38] <JP_> hi
[22:39] <stef1a> using ubuntu 13.04. I recently removed some packages, and unity now only works on my "guest" account. Also, my mouse no longer works. Help?
[22:39] <duxb> anybody? something in between mpg123 and mpd?
[22:39] <JP_> I am not able stream videos on ubuntu
[22:39] <ryanturner_> Ok, back, going to restart the installer.
[22:39] <ryanturner_> no 3rd party or updates
[22:39] <ryanturner_> no encryption
[22:39] <usr13> stef1a: So what all did you remove?
[22:40] <ryanturner_> still /home on the hd, swap on the hd, and / on the SSD
[22:40] <usr13> duxb: What is your question?
[22:40] <betrayd> ryanturner how are you able to chat and install at teh same time though
[22:40] <stef1a> usr13: i don't remember. flgrx (or fglrx? not sure) may have been one
[22:40] <ryanturner_> (the installer detected the existing ubuntu13)
[22:40] <Noiro> nvm, I can barely add any file to this .jar wtf?
[22:40] <ryanturner_> betrayd:  running live version
[22:40] <Ari-Yang> okay, I'm going to test hdmi again(after installing updates like updating the kernel)
[22:40] <stef1a> usr13: currently I'm using Win7 because I can't really use ubuntu without a mouse.
[22:40] <ryanturner_> betrayd:  and then rrunning installer within the live
[22:40] <szahrat> ryanturner erase is completely
[22:41] <usr13> stef1a: You obviously did something rather drastic if only the guest acount works.
[22:41] <stef1a> Also I've reinstalled ubuntu twice and it hasn't worked.
[22:41] <duxb> usr13: I'm wanting to know if there is a command line media player that accepts media control functions from a keyboard's media keys
[22:41] <ryanturner_> szahrat:  Im just using the installation partition management tool
[22:41] <ryanturner_> deleting the old partitions, checking the format boz.
[22:41] <ryanturner_> box*
[22:41] <usr13> stef1a: So you can't use ubuntu without a mouse?
[22:41] <th0r> Noiro: I thought you had the idea. You don't add to a jar file, you don't install a jar file, you simply run it with java
[22:41] <JP_> anyone need help with chromium
[22:41] <usr13> duxb: mplayer ?
[22:42] <Ari-Yang> yeah, hdmi just stopped working =/
[22:42] <stef1a> usr13: I can. It's just frustrating. For instance, I can't use alt + tab to cycle between open windows, so if I were to get help in irc, I wouldn't be able to input commands simultaneously.
[22:42] <duxb> usr13: can it run without X running?
[22:42] <Noiro> th0r: I'm trying to add to the minecraft.jar. :P He does it fine on the video in winRar? Why not Ubuntu?
[22:42] <usr13> duxb: yes
[22:42] <duxb> usr13: awesome, thanks!
[22:43] <usr13> stef1a: Well, one thing is for sure, it is not going to be possible to fix Ubuntu while your logged into Win7
[22:43] <wollas77> cia
[22:43] <wollas77> ciao
[22:43] <wollas77> !list
[22:43] <stef1a> usr13: I understand.
[22:43] <ryanturner_> szahrat: Ok, it was the encryption...
[22:43] <usr13> stef1a: Nor trobuleshoot
[22:43] <ryanturner_> apparently it wont let me encrypt my home dir in the install for some reason...
[22:44] <usr13> stef1a: Do you know how to use irssi?
[22:44] <Noiro> I'm just trying to add a png to the items folder. :/
[22:44] <szahrat> :)
[22:44] <stef1a> usr13: yes. I also have another computer. I suppose I could use both at the same time
[22:44] <usr13> stef1a: sudo apt-get install irssi
[22:44] <stef1a> usr13: I'll come back later / tomorrow and do that, because I have some work I need to do right now.
[22:44] <betrayd> ryanturner maybe its trying to lock out the drive you happen to be using...
[22:44] <stef1a> usr13: I know how to, and have long been, using irssi.
[22:44] <ryanturner_> betrayd:  nothing is mounted
[22:44] <ryanturner_> betrayd:  so thats impossible :P
[22:45] <usr13> stef1a: Okey Dokey.  We'll be glad to help.
[22:45] <JP_> need help with my chromium
[22:45] <th0r> Noiro: you would have a much better chance of finding help on a java irc channel
[22:45] <JP_> please help
[22:45] <Noiro> But this is Ubuntu, and it is the default Archive Manager stopping me, not Java
[22:45] <vanishing> JP_: state the problem first?
[22:46] <JP_> my internet connection drops when trying to stream videos
[22:46] <Noiro> windows WinRAR works fine. :P
[22:46] <usr13> JP_:  /join #chromium
[22:46] <vanishing> JP_: anything in dmesg?
[22:46] <betrayd> ryanturner did you get to the part to set partitions though?
[22:46] <usr13> JP_: That does not sound like a browser problem. (I could be wrong, but...)
[22:47] <JP_> vanishing :cannot load web page at this time, try after some time pretty generic though
[22:47] <Ari-Yang> so hdmi doesn't work, even when xrandr says it's connected and I don't get 'no signal' on the samsung tv, it even says it's connected.
[22:47] <Ari-Yang> I just don't get a picture
[22:47] <Ari-Yang> any suggestions?
[22:48] <elisa87> How should a python.h not found error be fixed in installing PyQt? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5698529/
[22:48] <Ari-Yang> hope it has nothing to do with me installing WINE....
[22:48] <vanishing> JP_: by dmesg i mean type dmesg in a terminal and read the output
[22:50] <DrNoNeck>   /part
[22:51] <Ari-Yang> how do you change the hdmi output resolutions with xrandr and how do I know what the resolution output is set to?
[22:52] <Ari-Yang> maybe hdmi stopped working because it's using and unsupported resolution?
[22:52] <daftykins> Ari-Yang: HDMI should 'just work' if you have good graphics drivers on
[22:53] <Ari-Yang> daftykins, yeah, it was working last well like I said, with me just having to run xrandr --auto in terminal
[22:53] <Ari-Yang> xrandr says hdmi is connected, but there is not picture on the tv
[22:54] <Ari-Yang> and the tv is acting like it's getting a picture and everything is fine (there's no 'no signal' message)
[22:54] <Ari-Yang> there's just no picture =/
[22:54] <Ari-Yang> no sound either
[22:55] <daftykins> Ari-Yang: did you do anything different in the order you turned on the TV + computer?
[22:56] <Ari-Yang> no, not at all....
[22:56] <Ari-Yang> did the exact same order
[22:56] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: kernel version?
[22:56] <Ari-Yang> only thing that changed on this laptop is WINE being installed
[22:56] <Ari-Yang> OS: Linux 3.5.0-31-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "quantal" 12.10
[22:57] <Ari-Yang> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=1Z7n0sG7 <--- output of xrandr with hdmi being connected
[22:58] <daftykins> Ari-Yang: laptop - does it normally swap to TV only, clone onto both, or is it both displays at once?
[22:59] <Ari-Yang> only problem I had last time with hdmi was getting sound to work, I fixed it by adding radeon.audio=1 to the appropriate line in GRUB
[22:59] <adie> Does chromium not exist anymore?
[22:59] <adie> chromium downloads lead me to chrome
[22:59] <Ari-Yang> daftykins, last time I used hdmi, both laptop and tv screen were on and displaying picture
[23:00] <Ari-Yang> right now the tv is a black screen thinking hdmi is hooked up (it is, it just not showing any picture) and the laptop screen is working fine right now
[23:01] <erming> adie you sure? i just installed chromium 30mins ago
[23:01] <betrayd> ari-yang does your laptop have Fn keys of a different color
[23:01] <erming> you can try the "apt-get install chromium-browser"
[23:01] <Ari-Yang> FN key? yeah it does, betrayd
[23:01] <Ari-Yang> it's blue FN key
[23:01] <daftykins> Ari-Yang: stupid question, i take it you tried a reboot to see if it'd do anything different after
[23:01] <Ari-Yang> yeah I did
[23:01] <Ari-Yang> did nothing =/
[23:02] <daftykins> does it do much pulling and replugging?
[23:02] <Ari-Yang> yeah, I unhooked it and hooked it up back again
[23:02] <Ari-Yang> I just hooked it up now
[23:02] <Ari-Yang> tv says 'no signal'
[23:02] <Ari-Yang> I didn't run xrandr --auto in terminal yet
[23:03] <Ari-Yang> I ran xrandr --auto, HDMI is "working" now, says 'no signal' on the TV, again, just no picture :S
[23:03] <betrayd> Ari-Yang the Fn (blue keys) + the video mode has 3 settings like daftykins said, laptop only, laptop+external or external only
[23:03] <erming> Ari-Yang, i've not followed the discussion, but: System Settings > Displays
[23:03] <erming> is the external monitor visible there?
[23:04] <Ari-Yang> erming, http://gyazo.com/8845763cb93b91fea1133ce1b9085e46
[23:04] <Ari-Yang> betrayd, I hit the FN key but nothing happens...
[23:04] <Ari-Yang> am I suppose to hit something else along with the FN key?
[23:04] <erming> an old computer i had, required fn+ some of the F<num> buttons
[23:05] <erming> which had a little sign of a computer monitor
[23:05] <mindless_chaos> try it with F4
[23:05] <erming> that thing, which seemed to be built into the motherboard/whatever, could activate the different ports
[23:05] <qpucka> bazhang: i couldn't install -dkms alongside -4.2 so i removed -4.2 and installed -dkms with the appropriate extpack. usb error is gone but guest installation now hangs. i'm not sure what's going on now.
[23:05] <betrayd> Ari-Yang there is a blue disply mode icon like erming desribed
[23:05] <mindless_chaos> the fn key and functions usually control hardware aspects of the machine
[23:06] <mindless_chaos> such as monitor switching
[23:06] <Ari-Yang> no nothing happens =/
[23:06] <betrayd> The blue Fn keys work at BIOS/BOOt time Ari-Yang (common rookie whine: they don't work)
[23:06] <mindless_chaos> try all of the function keys with FN
[23:07] <Ari-Yang> but I never had to mess with FN before....
[23:07] <Ari-Yang> are you sure that's the problem? all I had to do before was run xrandr --auto and everything worked fine
[23:07] <betrayd> this will elimintate 'no signal'
[23:08] <thpe_> I am trying to mount an hfs+ volume so that I can read files on it that I do not have permissions for. I tried mount uid=myuidhere /dev/sdc6 myfilesdirectory/ and it doens't work, it just lists the man page
[23:08] <thpe_> is there any obvious syntax error?
[23:08] <daftykins> thpe_: trailing slash on your mount point isn't necessary i don't think
[23:08] <Ari-Yang> well I hit FN with all Fs (F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 F10 F11 F12)
[23:08] <daftykins> thpe_: plus /full/mount/path may be best
[23:08] <thpe_> daftykins, you are right,but I get the same error without it
[23:09] <Ari-Yang> no go :S
[23:09] <thpe_> err: lack of error
[23:09] <Ari-Yang> just unplugged hdmi
[23:09] <mindless_chaos> hum.. well auto worked b4 on the same machine?
[23:09] <betrayd> Ari-Yang it works at BIOS/BOOT time, so you have to hit the key to prolong BIOS time
[23:10] <betrayd> don't hit it while you're chatting
[23:10] <daftykins> thpe_: have you looked at the output of 'dmesg | tail' to see if it's commenting about what went wrong?
[23:10] <mindless_chaos> you may have to specify the rez etc in the xrandr
[23:10] <Ari-Yang> mindless_chaos, was that question directed to me? if it is yes, it worked just fine last week
[23:10] <thpe_> I don't see anything obvious.
[23:11] <Ari-Yang> betrayd, you want me to try all F1-12 keys with hdmi hooked up?
[23:12] <erming> Ari-Yang you dont see any icons on your f<num> keys?
[23:12] <erming> hold FN and just click your way through them, worth a shot :)
[23:12] <betrayd> ari-yang but at BIOS boot time, not while in session. once you get boot progress showing on both, work on xrandr
[23:13] <Ari-Yang> erming, there are icons, I did that already.... and yes there are icons
[23:13] <Ari-Yang> betrayd, so you want me to restart my computer
[23:13] <Ari-Yang> and when the bios message pops up, what do I have to hit, f12?
[23:14] <histo> Ari-Yang: do you have another display hooke dup to this box?
[23:14] <betrayd> then AriYang hit whatever key gets you in BIOS setup, that way the blue FN combo kleys can work longer
[23:14] <Ari-Yang> histo, another display hooked up? no not at all
[23:15] <Ari-Yang> betrayd, I think I see what you're saying, but I'm having a feeling that isn't necessary, how is it connected to this problem?
[23:15] <Noiro> So does anyone know how to add files to a jar? I always get errors but Winrar for Windows does it fine. Why wouldn't archive manager? #java is invite-only
[23:15] <betrayd> Ari-yang no signal is what you get now right, get rid of it first
[23:16] <daftykins> Noiro: i'm sure there are more archivers?
[23:16] <Noiro> daftykins: do you know of a working one?
[23:16] <betrayd> there is rar for nix
[23:16] <vanishing> Noiro: basicly any would work
[23:17] <Ari-Yang> betrayd, so you want me to go into BIOS with hdmi hooked up?
[23:17] <daftykins> Noiro: i'm afraid not, but i'd hope a quick google might say what works
[23:17] <Ari-Yang> http://www.technoish.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Dell-Inspiron-N5010-Keyboard.jpg there's this laptop's keyboard layout
[23:18] <betrayd> Ari-Yang on some laptops the BIOS menu will also ask for display setup. (laptop only, ext+lap or ext only). The shortcut combos can do that, but only during a limited interval
[23:21] <phong_> hi guys, why i can't run vmware 9 after installing on ubuntu 13.04???
[23:21] <phong_> any fix?
[23:21] <phong_> please help thanks.
[23:21] <betrayd> so Ari-Yang navigate the BIOS settings for display if you can, if they're not there go use the combo keys. You're trying to get a signal but as far as the screen sees it, its unplugged. Trivial to fix then work on xrandr
[23:21] <phong_> I love ubuntu 13.04,
[23:21] <Ari-Yang> betrayd, okay, I see what you're saying. But why is that I get the feeling this has nothing to do with hdmi? :S
[23:22] <phong_> vmware 9 workstation on ubuntu 13.04 complain about kernel thing....help me how to get it running. please
[23:22] <betrayd> Ari-Yang sure feel free to ignore me, but I'm trying to eliniate 'no signal' which is your first problem. Surem ignore this, and I'll still see you next week =)
[23:23] <Ari-Yang> betrayd, no need for the sarcastic 'smile' =/ I didn't say I won't do it, I just said that I don't think this has anything to do with HDMI, I'll try it in a few min. saving some stuff before restarting.
[23:23] <cano> can anybody help me out with xubuntu 13.04
[23:23] <Ari-Yang> wait, should I disconnect hdmi when I go into bios?
[23:23] <Ari-Yang> or unplug it?
[23:24] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: I'd leave it connected
[23:24] <betrayd> Ari-Yang yes^
[23:24] <Ari-Yang> alright
[23:24] <vanishing> cano: no one can help you unless you state the problem..:D
[23:25] <betrayd> Ari-Yang ok glad you keep an open mind.
[23:25] <vanishing> cano: besides, /join #xubuntu might be a better idea
[23:26] <cano> i've just installed xubuntu but when i restart i can,'t load it
[23:26] <root______> cano , what is the error message ?
[23:27] <vanishing> cano: error messages?
[23:27] <memand> What do you guys think the life expectancy would be of a system installed on a USB flash drive?
[23:27] <betrayd> Ari-Yang these folks may have dealt with it too, so keep your options open
[23:27] <memand> Or to put it another way, would it fry the chip due to exessive read write cycles?
[23:27] <root______> memand , large
[23:28] <memand> root______: Large, beeing the life expectancy?
[23:28] <root______> memand , infinit
[23:29] <genii-around> memand: Most flash drives get 20-30,000 write cycles. So just don't put your swap on it
[23:29] <phong_> please how to install vmware 9 to work with ubuntu 13.04
[23:29] <Noiro> Ok figured it out, turns out I need to roll back file-roller since the newest one is a dud
[23:29] <Ari-Yang> betrayd, I found nothing in bios dealing with displays
[23:30] <betrayd> when you absoluely have to have to open a file, that would be the end of its life expectancy
[23:30] <Ari-Yang> and now my screen resolution is messed up O__o
[23:30] <memand> btw, I'm not talking about doing this http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu but rather doing a "propper" install on the stick
[23:31] <vanishing> memand: any particular reason for that?
[23:32] <phong_> come on guys
[23:32] <memand> vanishing: So that I can have everything other than the grub patition encrypted with LUKS
[23:33] <Ari-Yang> alright, got my display back
[23:33] <Ari-Yang> welp, that didn't work :S
[23:34] <phong_> can someone tell me how to install vmware 9 in ubuntu 13.04????? it does install but not working...gosh
[23:34] <vanishing> phong_: im not farmiliar with vmware 9
[23:35] <vanishing> but try to run it from terminal
[23:35] <vanishing> and see if there are any output
[23:35] <phong_> vanishing, u want to remote to my pc?
[23:35] <vanishing> phong_: :|
[23:35] <Ari-Yang> lol
[23:35] <vanishing> not really...
[23:35] <Ari-Yang> teamviewer?
[23:35] <phong_> i really need to get it going
[23:35] <phong_> yes teamviewer
[23:35] <phong_> can u make it work?
[23:36] <phong_> Ari-Yang, ?
[23:36] <Ari-Yang> ?
[23:36] <phong_> Ari-Yang,  828 916 464
[23:36] <phong_> i pm u the password
[23:36] <Ari-Yang> I'm confused lol
[23:36] <phong_> hold on
[23:36] <diverdude> Hi, I have verified that haproxy sends a log message to syslog on localhost which is listening on udp port 514. However the message is not written to the logfile from syslog. Why is that? I have created /etc/rsyslog.d/10-haproxy.conf with the lines: $ModLoad imudp   $ServerAddress 127.0.0.1  $UDPServerRun 514. What am I missing?
[23:36] <Ari-Yang> phong_, oh you want to see if you can help me out with hdmi not working?
[23:36] <phong_> Ari-Yang, you help me
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> with what?
[23:37] <phong_> vmware 9
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> oh, sorry I can't
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> not sure what the problem is
[23:37] <Noiro> can someone help me roll back file-roller? I have the .deb, but it has dependencies upon trying to install
[23:37] <th0r> Ari-Yang: you could charge by the hour
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> nor do I know about 13.04
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> lol th0r xD
[23:37] <erming> Ari-Yang he want to lay back in his chair and let you fix his problems :)
[23:37]  * Ari-Yang has his own problem to try and fix XD;
[23:37] <phong_> man, vmware 9 is not working in ubuntu 13
[23:38] <phong_> freaking vmware
[23:38] <Ari-Yang> phong_, maybe use another VM?
[23:38] <phong_> no, i'm used to vmware
[23:38] <vanishing> phong_: have you tried running it from a terminal?
[23:38] <phong_> vanishing, why dont u remote in
[23:38] <phong_> i did try it
[23:39] <vanishing> phong_: no error messages?
[23:39] <phong_> it ask to install something
[23:39] <phong_> not sure what it is ,, i click install and nothing work
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> phong_, what did it ask you to install?
[23:39] <diverdude> anyone?
[23:39] <phong_> if u can remote in ... man
[23:39] <phong_> i dont mind....please help me
[23:39] <phong_> i'm using teamviewer
[23:39] <erming> phong_ why would he want that
[23:40] <erming> you will have to solve your problem by your own
[23:40] <Ari-Yang> phong_, you'd want someone who knows what he/she is doing to remote in? not just anybody =/
[23:40] <erming> help != people will do stuff FOR you
[23:40] <phong_> erming, i dont know much ubuntu man
[23:40] <elisa87> Why? /usr/bin/python3: can't open file '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/eric5/eric5_configure.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[23:40] <stef1a> hello all
[23:40] <erming> phong_ heh, why do you want vmware on it?
[23:40] <Ari-Yang> anyways, I'll do some more googling with this hdmi problem. shame though it just stopped working out :V
[23:40] <phong_> to run some vmware stuff
[23:40] <erming> Ari-Yang i wish you good luck!
[23:41] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: I didnt get the whole chat
[23:41] <erming> phong_ to run what? :)
[23:41] <phong_> win os
[23:41] <stef1a> i'm using ubuntu 13.04 and my mouse and unity don't work. There is no dash and no launcher. I'm using an HP ProBook 4535s laptop. I've tried reinstalling over my old 13.04 when the problem first came up, but it hasn't helped. Help?
[23:41] <vanishing> but, would you think its a graphic driver problem?
[23:41] <stef1a> usr13: I'm back! and I'm on ubuntu now!
[23:41] <Ari-Yang> I doubt it
[23:42] <Ari-Yang> I didn't change my graphics driver nor mess with them :o
[23:42] <erming> phong_ i would go the other way around by the way. vmware have alot better support actually running on windows
[23:42] <Ari-Yang> thanks erming for the good luck wish
[23:42] <erming> as far as i know
[23:42] <erming> Ari-Yang :D
[23:42] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: anything in logs?
[23:43] <Ari-Yang> vanhelsing_, I'll say it again in case you missed it. last week I got hdmi just fine by hooking up the hdmi cable, then running xrandr -auto to get picture, then switching sound settings to hdmi output, done. everything worked out
[23:43] <vanishing> phong_: alright...installed teamviewer
[23:43] <vanishing> lol
[23:43] <Ari-Yang> logs? what logs should I look at?
[23:43] <phong_> ok
[23:43] <phong_> need my id?
[23:43] <phong_> vanishing, 828 916 464
[23:43] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: dmesg, syslog..you know..the usual suspect
[23:43] <phong_> vanishing, pass is: k1x78d
[23:43] <Ari-Yang> ah
[23:43] <vanishing> ~.~..why did you give out all the info in public
[23:43] <vanishing> lol
[23:43] <phong_> oh
[23:44] <phong_> let me change pass then
[23:44] <Noiro> does KDE have a better ifle manager?
[23:44] <phong_> forgot about it
[23:44] <Ari-Yang> meh, doubt anybody cares
[23:44] <phong_> just log
[23:44] <MonkeyDust> Noiro  better depends n what you prefer
[23:44] <phong_> i dont think anyone care
[23:44] <stef1a> help, please, anyone?
[23:44] <phong_> vanishing, go ahead and log in
[23:44] <Noiro> MonkeyDust: Current version of file-roller in Gnome does not work. Does KDE have a different one?
[23:44] <Ari-Yang> vanhelsing_, the dmesg log I should check is under /var/log right?
[23:44] <MonkeyDust> Noiro  "not work" meaning?
[23:45] <Ari-Yang> hmm... I see dmesg and dmesg.0
[23:45] <Ari-Yang> I'll check dmseg
[23:45] <Noiro> Current version does not allow dragging files into zip directories.
[23:45] <MonkeyDust> Noiro  install KDE and try
[23:45] <erming> vanishing someone should just learn him a lesson.. log in and shut down his IRC :)
[23:46] <Ari-Yang> erming, you mean 'teach him a lesson' lol
[23:46] <erming> oh, yeah
[23:46] <Noiro> I'd rather just switch out the file manager KDE uses for file-roller, is that possible or is it dependant on KDE?
[23:46] <betrayd> that'll learn ya
[23:47] <erming> :D
[23:47] <MonkeyDust> Noiro  install whatever you need and try, you would then be the expert o the matter
[23:47] <Ari-Yang> hmmm
[23:47] <Ari-Yang> so I guess I should paste my dmesg and syslog...
[23:47] <erming> to my defence: it's late here, and learn/teach is the same word in my language
[23:47] <Ari-Yang> ah, I see erming
[23:47] <erming> :D
[23:47] <TheMaker> Got UnrealIRCd installed and running correctly, any ideas why I can't connect to it? O.o
[23:47] <Noiro> I don't know the name it uses, and I'm sure plenty of others have needed to develop in Java and run into this
[23:48] <stef1a> also my audio doesn't work (using cvlc)
[23:50] <stef1a> is there a driver-updater i can run from the terminal? because i can't use dash...
[23:52] <syntroPi> arent drivers normal deb packages from the subscribed repos? "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> omg
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> hdmi is working
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> :O
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> all I did was hook it up to a laptop that I know it would work (windows) unplugged it and hooked it up quickly to mine
[23:53] <Inoki> Hi folks, anybody managed to get Bluetooth to work on Xubuntu? I'm on 12.10
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> god, I just hope sound is a-okay
[23:54] <Ari-Yang> yes
[23:54] <Ari-Yang> everything is working!
[23:54] <daftykins> \o/
[23:54] <daftykins> Ari-Yang: congrats
[23:55] <Ari-Yang> thanks lol
[23:55] <Ari-Yang> I blame hdmi signals :X
[23:55] <th0r> and we now have an hdmi expert
[23:55] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: what was the problem?
[23:55] <stef1a> i'm using ubuntu 13.04 and my mouse and unity don't work. There is no dash and no launcher. I'm using an HP ProBook 4535s laptop. I've tried reinstalling over my old 13.04 when the problem first came up, but it hasn't helped. Help? (also, audio isn't working)
[23:55] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: glad you figured it out
[23:56] <Ari-Yang> vanishing, I just hooked it up to a laptop (with windows on it), hdmi worked fine on it, quickly unplugged the hdmi and hooked it to mine, ran xrandr --auto and it sensed my laptop
[23:56] <betrayd> whoa that's a wrap \o/ Ari-Yang, make a note of it
[23:56] <Ari-Yang> lol yeah xD
[23:57] <phong_> not working
[23:57] <stef1a> also why do i continually get "continue without verification?" from apt-get?
[23:57] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: lol..thats the weirdest solution
[23:57] <phong_> vanishing, not working
[23:57] <Ari-Yang> aye, indeed
[23:57] <vanishing> phong_: ok..umm
[23:57] <phong_> should i install 12.04 ?
[23:57] <vanishing> phong_: /msg me the connection info again
[23:57] <phong_> lol
[23:57] <phong_> oh
[23:57] <betrayd> vanishing 'It sounds so crazy it just might work!'
[23:58] <vanishing> betrayd: haha..ye
[23:58] <phong_> people got it work man
[23:58] <stef1a> and can people see my text?
[23:58] <phong_> vanishing, i saw ubuntu support
[23:58] <betrayd>  we need more  'pioneers' like Ari
[23:58] <th0r> stef1a: no
[23:58] <stef1a> th0r: :-)