| Guest17487 | ubuntustudio13.4 media players tearing videos specially HD , can anyone help i did look around for answers have got something but need a fool proof way to fsum this up | 05:52 |
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| Guest17487 | using nvidia gt520m gfx card on my laptop | 05:52 |
| zequence | Guest17487: I haven't been messing with settings for video players myself, but perhaps VLC has an option for that. Something like, wait for vertical sync. However, XBMC does not have this problem | 05:54 |
| Guest17487 | chanserv?? could you please help | 05:54 |
| Guest17487 | thanks zequence | 05:54 |
| Guest17487 | this tearing happens on all the media players | 05:55 |
| Guest17487 | not only VLC | 05:55 |
| Guest17487 | xine | 05:55 |
| zequence | I know | 05:55 |
| zequence | But, some may have settings to prevent it | 05:55 |
| Guest17487 | so read this and this fixed the problem but display settings changed | 05:56 |
| Guest17487 | http://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=3045.0 | 05:56 |
| Guest17487 | the answer lies in compositing option in window manager setting | 05:57 |
| Guest17487 | can this be fixed permanently | 05:57 |
| zequence | Guest17487: Have you read this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/125245/how-do-i-stop-video-tearing-nvidia-prop-driver-non-compositing-window-manager | 06:01 |
| Guest17487 | reading thanks ze | 06:02 |
| zequence | I haven't investigated the problem myself at all really | 06:07 |
| zequence | I just know from my own experience, that XBMC does not have this tearing problem | 06:07 |
| zequence | I suppose because it's not a desktop program, and does its own graphics entirely (I'm assuming) | 06:08 |
| Guest17487 | thanks ze seems im facing an age old issue thanks for your inputs | 06:09 |
| === cub_ is now known as cub | ||
| brian__ | Hi does anyone know how to import music into Audacious? | 14:14 |
| brian__ | Ok it's alright. | 14:23 |
| famax8 | whats the new verion worth? | 14:41 |
| zequence | famax8: zillions | 14:49 |
| deemovic | hello | 14:54 |
| deemovic | I need help to set up more than one monitor display, but all I get is a mirror display on the second monitor | 14:56 |
| cub | deemovic, what kind of graphic card do you have? | 15:01 |
| cub | I needed to install ATI drivers to be able to run dual monitors on my setup | 15:02 |
| deemovic | onboard nvidia | 15:02 |
| deemovic | cub, please tell me how... I have an hp pavillion dv600 laptop, an old thing and it only has an onboard graphics card... how do I intall ATI drivers | 15:04 |
| DarkEra | did you install the nvidia drivers? If it's nvidia you don't need ATI at all | 15:05 |
| DarkEra | if you use the opensource driver Nouveau you can set it up in Arandr | 15:06 |
| cub | I don't know if the Nvidia drivers are in Proprietary drivers like for ATI cards? | 15:06 |
| DarkEra | if you want to use the nvidia drivers then open a terminal and do a: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current | 15:07 |
| DarkEra | reboot once it's finished | 15:07 |
| DarkEra | Once rebooted you need to run gksudo nvidia-settings in the terminal to adjust the settings and save them to the xorg.conf file from there | 15:09 |
| DarkEra | deemovic, ^ | 15:10 |
| deemovic | yes | 15:10 |
| deemovic | I tried to do those things yesterday but it messed up my resolutiion so I have had to reinstall ubuntu studio afresh this morning... can you help me out | 15:11 |
| deemovic | DarkEra, I will try your advice just one more time | 15:12 |
| DarkEra | ok | 15:12 |
| DarkEra | you also should be able to adjust the resolution in the nvidia-settings | 15:13 |
| DarkEra | if that's not working out i'd advice just to use the nouveau driver and set up a dual monitor through Arandr | 15:14 |
| deemovic | DarkEra, can you please explain the process of the Nouveau driver to me | 15:21 |
| DarkEra | how do you mean? | 15:22 |
| deemovic | how do I got about it | 15:22 |
| deemovic | go about it | 15:22 |
| DarkEra | if you don't have the nvidia drivers installed your system uses the Nouveau driver | 15:23 |
| deemovic | ok... right now I have successfully installed the nvidia-current via terminal as you suggested | 15:23 |
| DarkEra | right, now reboot | 15:23 |
| DarkEra | if you haven't done so already that is :) | 15:23 |
| deemovic | I see something depmod... and DKMS:Install completed | 15:24 |
| deemovic | I will reboot now and it means this chat will cut off for a bit] | 15:24 |
| DarkEra | if it's completly done and nothing is happening then reboot | 15:24 |
| deemovic | should I attach the second display already or wait to do that after reboot? DarkEra | 15:25 |
| DarkEra | you could do that after the reboot | 15:25 |
| deemovic | I just checked my system setting and saw nvidia X server setting, I clicked on it and it gave me a box with this message ''You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.'' | 15:26 |
| DarkEra | did you reboot? | 15:26 |
| DarkEra | otherwise it doesn't work | 15:26 |
| deemovic | gonna do that now... just hope you will be here when i come back | 15:26 |
| DarkEra | sure ;) | 15:27 |
| deemovic | ok | 15:27 |
| deemovic | off I go | 15:27 |
| DarkEra | ok | 15:27 |
| famax8 | zequence, but one mid range in particular? | 15:34 |
| famax8 | zequence, sorry missunderstood - and i meant is it worth updating? | 15:35 |
| famax8 | anyone would know of a good external soundcard USB with MIDI | 15:37 |
| DarkEra | famax8, it sure is worth it. But i don't know what you plan to do, upgrade or fresh install (what i would recommend)? | 15:38 |
| famax8 | or how to use kaosspad as device for lmms | 15:38 |
| famax8 | DarkEra, update | 15:38 |
| DarkEra | note that upgrading doesn't work flawless most of the time. That's my experience | 15:39 |
| deemovic | DarkEra, are you there | 16:00 |
| DarkEra | i'm still here but having something to eat at the moment | 16:01 |
| deemovic | ok... no worries... when yu are done | 16:01 |
| DarkEra | ok, thanks :) | 16:01 |
| deemovic | DarkEra, | 16:42 |
| deemovic | you know what...I just quickly reinstall studio afresh a again... | 16:43 |
| DarkEra | did it went wrong? | 16:43 |
| deemovic | reason on that once I plug in the second monitor, it messes up the main monitor and reduced the resolution so much that fonts doubles in size | 16:44 |
| deemovic | so now its back to normal and we can begin the process again... | 16:44 |
| DarkEra | deemovic, what if you open nvidia-settings through the terminal: gksudo nvidia-settings | 16:45 |
| holstein | i usually just make a custom xorg.conf.. with the nvidia tools, you can get something close to what will work, and edit from there as needed | 16:45 |
| deemovic | hey holstein its me here again, Senator | 16:45 |
| DarkEra | deemovic, in there you should be able to adjust the monitors | 16:45 |
| DarkEra | heya holstein :) | 16:46 |
| holstein | DarkEra, deemovic o/ | 16:46 |
| deemovic | so guys tell me are you saying the same thing or different... which do I try | 16:46 |
| deemovic | I need to install the nvidia-current first right and what next? | 16:46 |
| holstein | deemovic: its on a hardware basis.. you'll just need to troubleshoot and do what works | 16:47 |
| deemovic | you know I went over to dreamstudio temporarily and just came back to Ubuntu studio yesterday, so I hope this works really | 16:47 |
| holstein | deemovic: ideally, its nvidia that would be helping you, since they make the software, but we can try | 16:47 |
| holstein | deemovic: go where you like.. the issue you are having is realting to your graphics hardware, and will likely be *very* similar on any version of linux | 16:48 |
| holstein | deemovic: the nice thing about ubuntu is the larger desktop user community, which is more likely to have used the *exact* hardware you are trying to use | 16:48 |
| deemovic | DarkEra, suggested something ealier on, he said I shd install nvidia current and if it dont work I can use the Nouveau driver visa ARand R | 16:48 |
| holstein | deemovic: you can use the vesa driver with one monitor | 16:49 |
| holstein | deemovic: and, thats what i might suggest.. stepping back a bit, and taking it easy | 16:49 |
| holstein | deemovic: what operating system are you coming from? | 16:49 |
| deemovic | ubuntu dreamstudio | 16:49 |
| deemovic | but it was 12.04 | 16:50 |
| holstein | deemovic: before that.. what are you used to. .windows? | 16:50 |
| deemovic | nope... ubuntu studio | 16:50 |
| holstein | deemovic: so, dual monitor is supported in 12.04? | 16:50 |
| deemovic | remember we always chatted here in the past, I was senator, now changed the name to deemovic | 16:50 |
| holstein | deemovic: why not just use 12.04? thats what my production machine is running... | 16:51 |
| holstein | deemovic: also, you can grab the xorg.conf that the nvidia utility makes for you in 12.04, and try it in 13.04 | 16:51 |
| deemovic | in the dreamstudio, it somehow worked... sometimes the mouse ghets stuck at the edge of one screen but when i repeatedly drag it it crosses over to the next one | 16:51 |
| holstein | deemovic: i would have no issues installing 12.04 right now, if it fit my needs better than 13.04 | 16:51 |
| holstein | deemovic: you can grab information from dreamstudio | 16:52 |
| holstein | deemovic: first thing. if "dreamstudio" is based on 12.04.. that is a different kernel. and a different nvidia driver | 16:52 |
| holstein | also, you can get that *exact* xorg.conf .. have it with you as a "known-good" config | 16:52 |
| holstein | otherwise, it will be a matter of troubleshooting | 16:52 |
| holstein | what would i do? | 16:52 |
| deemovic | holstein, in the dreamstudio, it somehow worked... sometimes the mouse ghets stuck at the edge of one screen but when i repeatedly drag it it crosses over to the next one, so the issue was not tatally sorted but I managed somehow to live with it | 16:52 |
| holstein | deemovic: that likely to do with the way you had the nvidia driver setup.. where the mouse would get stuck | 16:53 |
| deemovic | ok holstein, DarkEra ... can we try here first and see what we can achieve | 16:53 |
| holstein | deemovic: what would i do? install 13.04... upgrade *all* packages.. install the nvidia driver | 16:53 |
| holstein | if it doesnt work, i would take my known-good xorg.conf from dreamstudio and drop it in 13.04 | 16:54 |
| deemovic | I have just done the upgrade now, its asking me to restart | 16:54 |
| holstein | !nvidia | 16:54 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 16:54 |
| deemovic | I have already cleaned out dreamstudio | 16:54 |
| holstein | ^^ states, by model, what driver to use | 16:54 |
| deemovic | wiped it | 16:54 |
| holstein | deemovic: sure.. and if you hit a wall here, you can reinstall dreamstudio, or 12.04 and make notes about what is supporting your hardware, and why | 16:55 |
| deemovic | so lets go ahead here first... right... I have installed all package upgrade, now it needs me to restart... do I do that now and come back to you | 16:55 |
| holstein | deemovic: you will need to reboot to be running the latest kernel | 16:56 |
| holstein | deemovic: its not really a matter of "this is what you do, and it will work" | 16:56 |
| holstein | it will be a process by which volunteers make suggestions, and you try them | 16:56 |
| DarkEra | install ---> update --> reboot --> install the drivers. That's how it's done | 16:57 |
| holstein | you are upgraded, and booting the latest kernel, and installing the latest drivers | 16:57 |
| holstein | then, we go from there | 16:57 |
| deemovic | I know... I ynderstand, I just wanted to get away the basic thing off the table, then get into troubleshoot... so let me do that now | 16:57 |
| holstein | deemovic: this is not "basic" | 16:58 |
| holstein | deemovic: we, the volnuteers in this channel, are going to to our best to help you with software that we do not, and cannot maintatain | 16:58 |
| holstein | IE, the proprietary nvidia driver | 16:58 |
| holstein | i use it.. so does DarkEra it seems | 16:58 |
| DarkEra | holstein, yep | 16:59 |
| deemovic | ok but let me begin from there now... I have installed studio, now upgraded packages... so let me reboot now guys | 16:59 |
| deemovic | then come chat yu about how to install nvidia drivers etc and see where it leads me | 17:00 |
| holstein | yes.. reboot to the current most up to date kernel.. and install the current most up to date nvidia driver | 17:00 |
| holstein | !nvidia | deemovic | 17:00 |
| ubottu | deemovic: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 17:00 |
| holstein | deemovic: you can reference the link above for "how to install the driver" | 17:00 |
| holstein | deemovic: thats what i use | 17:00 |
| holstein | its by model # | 17:00 |
| deemovic | lspci | GREP vga output is VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c) | 17:02 |
| holstein | ? | 17:02 |
| deemovic | the link you gave | 17:03 |
| holstein | why are we discussing the nvidia driver then? | 17:03 |
| holstein | deemovic: you dont have nvidia hardware | 17:03 |
| deemovic | I see | 17:03 |
| holstein | deemovic: the intel chip should be supported out of the box | 17:03 |
| holstein | deemovic: is that a netbook? | 17:03 |
| deemovic | laptop | 17:03 |
| holstein | you should be able to install and use arandr and setup the dual head | 17:04 |
| DarkEra | so it's not a onboard nvidia card | 17:04 |
| holstein | DarkEra: apparently not nvidia hardware at all | 17:04 |
| deemovic | hmmm, I see | 17:05 |
| deemovic | its intel right? but its onboard | 17:05 |
| deemovic | so how do you suggest I proceed | 17:05 |
| holstein | deemovic: all intel are integrated | 17:05 |
| holstein | deemovic: i suggested installing arandr, after suggesting upgrading and rebooting the new kernel.. are you up to date? | 17:06 |
| deemovic | I believe so, just that once I plug in the second monitor, it messes up the view of the first and the resolution changes | 17:06 |
| deemovic | I havent rebooted yet cos we ar here chastting | 17:06 |
| deemovic | chatting | 17:06 |
| holstein | deemovic: open a terminal... type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and report any errors | 17:06 |
| holstein | deemovic: then, "sudo apt-get install arandr" | 17:07 |
| deemovic | but if you will excuse me a few moment... I will reboot now... No errors | 17:07 |
| deemovic | for the arandr, no errors there too, 0 upgrade, 0 new ,0 to remove and 0 not upgraded | 17:09 |
| holstein | deemovic: are you rebooted into the latest kernel? | 17:09 |
| holstein | deemovic: if not, reboot... | 17:09 |
| deemovic | ok i will do that now... be right back | 17:10 |
| DarkEra | holstein, i assumed that he had nvidia because he mentioned it himself. I will make sure the next time asking for a output first before giving further support | 17:13 |
| famax8 | so anyone knows of a good external soundcard for UBS 12.10 or a way to get a kaosspad working with lmms via midi or usb | 17:21 |
| holstein | famax8: for me, i argue external USB sound cards are never good | 17:21 |
| holstein | i have a lexicon omega that is plug and play... decent pre's.. the beringer USB devices are cheap and work out of the box.. $30us | 17:22 |
| holstein | famax8: the kaosspad should work with any midi.. i have some very cheap midi to USB cables... like $6us | 17:22 |
| famax8 | holstein, i need something wiht MIDI | 17:22 |
| holstein | famax8: *all* of what i have mentioned above (except the cheap beringer) has midi | 17:23 |
| holstein | famax8: i have a tascam USB that only the midi works, not the audio | 17:23 |
| holstein | famax8: my presonus firepod has midi, but i have never tested it | 17:23 |
| famax8 | holstein, u got a link for that cable? | 17:23 |
| holstein | famax8: i would just get whatever is cheap , and save the reciepts | 17:24 |
| holstein | famax8: i just got some cheap-o's from amazon | 17:24 |
| holstein | literally the cheapest ones | 17:24 |
| holstein | i was arguing about midi device quality in here before.. but since the sounds are not generated by, nor traveling through the midi devices, i just go with the cheapest | 17:25 |
| holstein | for the audio path, i spend money | 17:25 |
| holstein | any all-in-one kind of maudio or whatever would do you right.. | 17:25 |
| holstein | famax8: are you using an internal sound card? | 17:25 |
| famax8 | holstein, i use an internal yes id like to use the kaosspad as midi controller for lmms | 17:26 |
| famax8 | but if i could have a card with midi would be better no stress to have the usb compatibility issue | 17:27 |
| holstein | famax8: you should be able to enulate that with the touchpad.. but what im suggesting is, for not a lot more $$, you can probably find something used with usb audio and midi | 17:27 |
| holstein | famax8: lol | 17:27 |
| holstein | famax8: the stress has nothing to do with US.. or ALSA | 17:27 |
| famax8 | i rather avoid it | 17:27 |
| holstein | famax8: if you can get a vendor to say "out of the box alsa support" or "supports linux" then, you will have no stress | 17:27 |
| famax8 | and i already own a kaosspad i dont really wanna spend again some money | 17:28 |
| holstein | otherwise, *any* kernel or alsa update can break support | 17:28 |
| holstein | anyteim | 17:28 |
| holstein | anytime* | 17:28 |
| holstein | famax8: then get the *cheapest* midi cable you see | 17:28 |
| holstein | famax8: otherwise, my suggestion is, for a little more $$, you could get something that would improve your audio signal, and add midi | 17:28 |
| famax8 | and so internal card better yeah which one as midrange price | 17:28 |
| holstein | famax8: i dont see any reason to get mid or high range midi | 17:29 |
| famax8 | i mean soundcard | 17:29 |
| holstein | just get the cheapest.. otherwise, get a decent used usb soundcard with midi support | 17:29 |
| holstein | the lexicon omega is all i have here that i can personally say works | 17:29 |
| holstein | http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main is what i refer to | 17:30 |
| famax8 | id really like to have the plugs directly | 17:30 |
| deemovic | back now... holstein | 17:30 |
| holstein | famax8: right. via USB | 17:30 |
| deemovic | DarkEra, | 17:30 |
| famax8 | holstein, via midi ^^ | 17:30 |
| holstein | famax8: i think i understand you.. otherwise, you 'll need to elaborate what you mean by "plugs right in" | 17:30 |
| holstein | famax8: i dont follow then | 17:30 |
| famax8 | holstein, midi for midi usb for usb | 17:30 |
| holstein | famax8: right.. i do *not* understand | 17:31 |
| holstein | famax8: the omega plugs in USB.. and has midi | 17:31 |
| famax8 | holstein, haha i want a midi IN on the soundcard | 17:31 |
| holstein | famax8: right. the omega has that | 17:31 |
| famax8 | holstein, as there is a midi out on the kaosspad | 17:31 |
| holstein | famax8: lots of maudio cheaper cards on that list i linked have that | 17:31 |
| holstein | famax8: right.. i understand.. that is what i was saying | 17:32 |
| holstein | famax8: there willl be nothing else for it to connect to | 17:32 |
| famax8 | yes i saw one like 40 quids here as well | 17:32 |
| holstein | we are talking about adding a USB device for midi connection | 17:32 |
| famax8 | about 60$ if i convert well | 17:32 |
| holstein | thta can be done with a midi USB cable , or an interface with midi | 17:32 |
| holstein | that is the 2 options we are discussing | 17:32 |
| famax8 | yes | 17:32 |
| famax8 | yes | 17:32 |
| famax8 | but apparently better an iterface | 17:32 |
| holstein | my argument is, the USB audio device is doing more good for your setup | 17:32 |
| holstein | !better | famax8 | 17:33 |
| ubottu | famax8: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots. | 17:33 |
| holstein | better is up to you.. if you like your internal card.. or prefer it.. or, just want to spend less $$ | 17:33 |
| famax8 | holstein, oh right sorry i understood you said USB is never a good choice | 17:33 |
| holstein | deemovic: DarkEra and i see you, as well as the other volunteers.. you will need to post a question for us to respond | 17:34 |
| holstein | famax8: correct | 17:34 |
| holstein | famax8: i personally think its not "better" in any scenario, so i avoid it | 17:34 |
| holstein | thats my opinion | 17:34 |
| famax8 | holstein, are you trolling me??? :O | 17:34 |
| holstein | famax8: ? | 17:35 |
| famax8 | oh right | 17:35 |
| famax8 | :P | 17:35 |
| holstein | famax8: no.. im saying, i do not use, nor suggesting using USB | 17:35 |
| holstein | with that in mind, here are the links to the USB supported devices you want | 17:35 |
| famax8 | i thought internal too coz the whole USB adaptation can always create issues | 17:35 |
| holstein | famax8: i dont use internal cards for anything other than testing | 17:35 |
| famax8 | ? | 17:35 |
| famax8 | why not? | 17:35 |
| deemovic | ok | 17:36 |
| holstein | famax8: the above mentioned quality | 17:36 |
| holstein | famax8: the quality of internal sound cards for creating audio, and getting audio into the machine is sub-par | 17:36 |
| famax8 | is better via usb then? | 17:36 |
| holstein | famax8: also, i personally avoid USB for the same reason, though, that is changing.. and folks use USB all the time with "good" results | 17:36 |
| holstein | famax8: *better* is a matter of opinion, brother | 17:36 |
| famax8 | well yes im asking u | 17:37 |
| holstein | famax8: there is "this fits my needs" or, "this doesnt" | 17:37 |
| holstein | famax8: on a budget, the USB gear you are discussing is a good, affordable solution for you | 17:37 |
| famax8 | o u dont use any card? | 17:37 |
| holstein | famax8: to see about support, check the link i gave at alsa, or ask in #opensourcemusicians | 17:37 |
| famax8 | u being very confusing | 17:38 |
| holstein | famax8: i test with my internal sound cards.. for support reasons.. i use a few us devices for support purposes and testing | 17:38 |
| holstein | i have a firewise device i mentioned above that i do my production on | 17:38 |
| holstein | famax8: its quite simple | 17:38 |
| holstein | famax8: if you want quality, it cost $$ | 17:38 |
| famax8 | i dont go by that moto ^^ | 17:39 |
| holstein | famax8: if you dont want to spend $$, i can discuss some alternatives that are compromises | 17:39 |
| holstein | famax8: you dont have to | 17:39 |
| famax8 | but u got one deice assigned to one use right? | 17:39 |
| holstein | famax8: but, there is a level of quality that can *not* be attainted with an internal card | 17:39 |
| holstein | when getting audio into the machine | 17:39 |
| deemovic | ok guys, here is my challenge, I have installed ubuntustudio and I am having issues with dual display, what happens is that once I plug in the second monitor all I get is a mirror view and the second monitor kinda messes up the resolution of the main laptop which is running intel VGA. | 17:39 |
| famax8 | setup your screen config?? | 17:40 |
| holstein | famax8: if you are not creating audio outside the box, and just doing midi, you can get away with cheaper interfaces, which i am discussing with yuo | 17:40 |
| holstein | if you are only creating sounds "in the box" then the sound card quality is more irrelevant | 17:40 |
| holstein | in which case, the usb midi cable would be appropriate... | 17:40 |
| famax8 | holstein, is ok i just need midi to control at the moment i'll go with internal to play then live and export the sound i will see later with a luna o so but now is really about controlling and using the kaosspad pad as controller | 17:41 |
| holstein | famax8: understand?.. neither of those fit my personal needs.. since i dont do midi, and i track 8+ channels at once | 17:41 |
| holstein | famax8: if those devices, that personally dont fit my needs, fit your needs... above is where to find information about the support in ALSA.. and mabye someone who owns one in #opensourcemusians | 17:42 |
| famax8 | and u use all external devices plugged via what then? | 17:43 |
| famax8 | jack? | 17:43 |
| holstein | famax8: if you just need to add midi control.. the midi USB cable i have was like $6us, and works great.. for about $60, i think you could get a used usb audio device that would do midi, and increase your audio quality | 17:43 |
| holstein | famax8: i use JACK on my firewire audio device | 17:43 |
| famax8 | then all into the fire wire i guess? | 17:43 |
| holstein | famax8: correct | 17:44 |
| famax8 | ahhhhhh | 17:44 |
| famax8 | now i get it!!!! | 17:44 |
| holstein | but, i have a USB device that i test with ubuntu for support purposes that i think would fit your needs.. or one similar to it | 17:44 |
| famax8 | ok and so according to you i shouldnt get troubles using and cable adapter thingy usb to midi and can use the pad in lmms or so? | 17:44 |
| holstein | i think you should be able to get one for $50 or so US | 17:44 |
| holstein | famax8: thats what im saing.. *any* software update can give you "troubles" | 17:45 |
| holstein | famax8: you are not buying a device that says "works with ubuntustudio" or "linux" | 17:45 |
| famax8 | well starting from taht fact i dont go out of me gaff! :) | 17:45 |
| holstein | famax8: i can say this.. nothing ubuntustudio is doing will give you troubles with any device | 17:45 |
| famax8 | no but sometimes when is not "native" is always a bit dodgy | 17:46 |
| holstein | famax8: usb is not native | 17:46 |
| holstein | famax8: if you mean, not supported by the kernel. thats why i linked the alsa matrix | 17:46 |
| holstein | but, that is just alsa.. right now.. the audio hardware support for alsa | 17:46 |
| famax8 | holstein, hahaha u can sasy that yes but since 12.10 i dont believve u!! :O | 17:46 |
| holstein | famax8: what are you talking about? | 17:47 |
| famax8 | nothing will gimme troubles ^^ | 17:47 |
| holstein | famax8: ubuntutsudio doesnt suppport *any* hardare | 17:47 |
| holstein | hardware* | 17:47 |
| holstein | famax8: we use a kernel.. it has support for what it has support for | 17:47 |
| holstein | famax8: its really up to the vendors to get the information to alsa so that it can be suppported | 17:47 |
| holstein | when that doesnt happen, and it doesnt, support gets "dodgy" | 17:48 |
| holstein | famax8: if you are asking me "what audio hardware is guaranteed to work with ubuntustudio?" this is my answer.. ubuntustudio is doing nothing to facilitate, nor prevent the support of *any* devices being provided to you or anyone | 17:48 |
| holstein | i, nor anyone else can guarantee you that a device will work.. the vendor can, and is encouraged to do that for you | 17:49 |
| holstein | what do i do? i save my reciepts, and try and find someone with the *exact* hardware.. which can be challenging | 17:49 |
| holstein | since chipsets can change on hardware, and the *exact* hardware would be working fine with linux, but another piece of the same hardware could have a different unsupported chipset | 17:50 |
| holstein | famax8: i can only give you links to alsa and ubuntu friendly and #opensourcemusicians.. but, there are no guarantees.. | 17:51 |
| holstein | i can personally guarantee that http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Lexicon-Omega-Recording-Workstation-/70304739 works, since i have it and have tested in first-hand, assuming the chipsets and internal hardware are the same.. | 17:52 |
| holstein | famax8: sorry for any confusion with the wall-o-text.. im just trying to clearly state facts.. ubuntustudio nor linux are directly responsible for the hardware support which is or can potentially give you troubles | 17:59 |
| tehowe | Has anyone else been having kernel panics with the 3.8 PREEMPT kernel that got pushed out through the repo a couple days ago? | 18:05 |
| holstein | tehowe: might want to mention that you are on 12.04? correct? and i personally dont update my production machine running 12.04... though, i can for testing purposes if that will help you | 18:14 |
| famax8 | holstein, and so just to use a controller via midi the cheapest will do right? for the sound tranfers and recording i will use different or keep on the way i use so far which is MD->line in - record via ardour | 18:15 |
| tehowe | Hello again holstein :) Yes, I'm on 12.04 | 18:15 |
| holstein | famax8: the cheapest midi to USB is acceptable to me, since that cable is not transfering audio data.. just note on or off messages | 18:16 |
| famax8 | holstein, so USB would be better than interface direct ok | 18:17 |
| holstein | famax8: you cant interface midi direct | 18:17 |
| holstein | famax8: usb audio is arguably "better" than internal audio | 18:18 |
| famax8 | holstein, no soundcards or any cards would have midi in interface? | 18:18 |
| famax8 | no audio only control | 18:18 |
| holstein | famax8: the one i mentioned has that.. | 18:18 |
| tehowe | I think I'm supposed to help you, but here's what came up on the screen http://imgur.com/sRXrpS8 http://imgur.com/xTtVkam | 18:18 |
| tehowe | Thankfully only on my laptop so far and not on my desktop | 18:18 |
| holstein | famax8: i give 2 options to you.. one is a cable that is cheap that has midi in/out on one end, and usb on the other | 18:19 |
| holstein | the other is an audio interface, that is arguably "better" than your current audio situation, that would have midi on/out included | 18:19 |
| famax8 | i'llea cable the time i geet a card | 18:20 |
| famax8 | haha | 18:20 |
| famax8 | im just not feeling safe with the managment of midi over usb without going through some latency ttroubles at some point which is like crucial for me | 18:21 |
| holstein | famax8: *both* the options above "go through" usb | 18:21 |
| holstein | famax8: midi is not the issue though.. its nothing.. the date is literally "note on note off" | 18:21 |
| famax8 | again is really about controlling and use the pad with a program in lmms | 18:21 |
| holstein | famax8: audio date is *not* transmitted via MIDI | 18:22 |
| holstein | famax8: plus, you likely have no other resonably affordable way to add midi to your situation | 18:22 |
| famax8 | no internaal cards then? | 18:22 |
| holstein | famax8: correct | 18:22 |
| famax8 | i was thinking about this | 18:22 |
| famax8 | internal card | 18:22 |
| famax8 | directly into the mainboard shouldnt be any troubles | 18:23 |
| famax8 | innit? | 18:23 |
| holstein | famax8: if you dont have midi now, i would suggest usb midi.. | 18:23 |
| holstein | midi is nothing.. its not a load to worry about with latency... its small data | 18:24 |
| famax8 | yeah but rather be safe than sorry ^^ | 18:24 |
| holstein | famax8: sure | 18:24 |
| holstein | ShapeShifter499: *either* device can make you sorry, so try which ever you like | 18:24 |
| famax8 | ok so whichever way will do.. | 18:24 |
| holstein | famax8: ^^ | 18:25 |
| holstein | ShapeShifter499: sorry | 18:25 |
| holstein | famax8: either the internal card, or the USB midi can be unsupported | 18:25 |
| holstein | famax8: the external USB/midi would be the "best" quality | 18:25 |
| famax8 | holstein, dont be so negative | 18:25 |
| holstein | famax8: im not.. im being realistic | 18:25 |
| famax8 | merp | 18:26 |
| famax8 | i say that too | 18:26 |
| holstein | famax8: an internal sound card added to your system will not increase the quality of your audio any.. though it will add midi support | 18:26 |
| famax8 | but yeah then to export the sound and play live i would use an internal card as well i guess | 18:26 |
| holstein | famax8: no | 18:26 |
| holstein | famax8: you can export without *any* sound card.. you just cant monitor in the process | 18:27 |
| famax8 | yean live set dont need to be monintored but i pass then through a mixer so is a channel on it is ok i can monitor there | 18:27 |
| holstein | thats why im saying, if you are creating all the sounds "in the box" via midi, then the sound card quality is irrelevant.. | 18:27 |
| famax8 | sound is coming from lmms | 18:27 |
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| studio-user840-n | hi | 21:07 |
| studio-user840-n | i currently installing ubuntu studio. the second attempt. it seems that it failed to install the bootloader the first time. is it because the windows is on a other partition? | 21:07 |
| holstein | studio-user840-n: could be due to misconfiguration from trying not to break something on the hard drive | 21:08 |
| holstein | !grub | 21:08 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 21:08 |
| holstein | i would just reinstall grub from a live CD | 21:08 |
| studio-user840-n | grub | 21:09 |
| studio-user840-n | sounds like a good answer | 21:09 |
| studio-user840-n | i ll try | 21:09 |
| studio-user840-n | i guess the command would be: sudo apt-get install grub | 21:09 |
| holstein | studio-user840-n: sometimes i just dont install grub, and do it manually afterward.. it just depends | 21:09 |
| studio-user840-n | right? | 21:09 |
| holstein | studio-user840-n: i follow the wiki i linked.. and usually just use the GUI that can be installed on the live instance | 21:09 |
| holstein | i did it in the command line a few times, and it looked like that, but i remember specifying where.. /dev/sda1 or whatever | 21:10 |
| studio-user840-n | k | 21:10 |
| studio-user840-n | thanks | 21:10 |
| holstein | studio-user840-n: good luck! | 21:10 |
| studio-user840-n | i m so exited! | 21:10 |
| studio-user840-n | have been thinking of changing too linux since soemthing like 7 years now... but i m finally doing it. :) | 21:11 |
| studio-user840-n | to | 21:11 |
| holstein | check out #opensourcemusicians ..that commuinty really helpedme transtition | 21:12 |
| studio-user840-n | i guess my main problem is going to be all the adobe after effect and premiere projects i still have on windows... | 21:13 |
| studio-user840-n | is there a maybe a channel like #opensourcefilmmakers or #opensourcevideographers or #opensourcecinematographers ? | 21:15 |
| holstein | studio-user840-n: you can search freenode for whatever chanels you seek | 21:17 |
| studio-user840-n | how do i do that? | 21:17 |
| holstein | studio-user840-n: i had a lot of projects in cubase, and i dont miss windows or cubase anymore | 21:18 |
| holstein | studio-user840-n: do what? search for a channel? | 21:18 |
| holstein | you can just try joining it | 21:18 |
| studio-user840-n | oh yeah. i try that... so channels are emtpy... thats why i m asking | 21:18 |
| holstein | but, you can ask in the channel that *does* exist that i did suggest.. or google | 21:18 |
| holstein | or google how to search freenode or whatever server you are on using whatever client you are using | 21:19 |
| holstein | cheers! gotta run.. enjoy! | 21:19 |
| studio-user840-n | okey... well. lets try this one : #ubuntustudio | 21:19 |
| holstein | studio-user840-n: thats the one you are on | 21:19 |
| holstein | i suggest you try #opensourcemusicians ..but you dont have | 21:19 |
| holstein | to | 21:19 |
| studio-user840-n | lol | 21:19 |
| holstein | .. cheers! | 21:19 |
| studio-user840-n | ups | 21:19 |
| studio-user840-n | :) | 21:19 |
| studio-user840-n | thx | 21:20 |
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