[00:02] <petero983> the card works fine
[00:02] <petero983> I think it's nvidia
[00:02] <petero983> maybe I'll try nvidia driver
[00:03] <ObrienDave> make sure before you install the driver
[00:03] <petero983> but if that does not work, I'll wait for 14.04 and will use ubuntu with classic mode instead
[00:04] <ObrienDave> why not go for 13.04?
[00:04] <petero983> now I tried xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto --output DVI-0 --auto --right-of VGA-0 and everything was fine
[00:05] <ObrienDave> cool
[00:05] <petero983> then I put that command into autostart
[00:05] <petero983> and when logging in I end up with black screens and have no idea how to change that
[00:05] <petero983> ***
[00:06] <petero983> 13.04  will have the same problem, because it's still xfce4.10
[00:06] <petero983> it's for my father, therefore I need something stable, I don't want to change it every 9 months
[00:06] <ObrienDave> gotcha
[00:06] <petero983> but thank you
[01:47] <i3luefire_> help. i am having issues with my display constantly changing res and refresh rate. it is a 1080p hdtv and the signal is going through hdmi and through an surround sound reciever
[01:48] <SonikkuAmerica> It's changing resolutions? How?
[01:48] <i3luefire_> idk
[01:50] <i3luefire_> screen just keeps saying that the res is 1nnnX7nnn then another different one and so on. randomly like it cant guess the available modes of my tv
[01:50] <i3luefire_> 50hz 29hz 60hz 720p ...
[01:51] <i3luefire_> 1024x768
[01:51] <SonikkuAmerica> Have you tried [ xrandr -s $WIDTHx$HEIGHT ], where $WIDTH is width and $HEIGHT is height?
[01:51] <i3luefire_> i cant get anything typed in on the main screen... can it be done via ssh?
[01:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Try hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1
[01:53] <i3luefire_> mouse is also very very sluggish. this is the first time i have booted with a display. i had a standard ubuntu server until i installed xubuntu-desktop
[01:53] <i3luefire_> k
[01:54] <i3luefire_> ok im in
[01:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Logged in and such?
[01:55] <i3luefire_> yea
[01:55] <i3luefire_> it says cant open display
[01:55] <i3luefire_> when i did xrandr...
[01:55] <SonikkuAmerica> You might try another desktop environment... if there's another problem we can then trace it to the X server.
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> I'd try lubuntu-desktop first, since it's the lightest
[01:56] <i3luefire_> i have "4 zombie processes" too.
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> And they are...?
[01:57] <i3luefire_> how do i see them?
[01:57] <i3luefire_> htop
[01:57] <i3luefire_> ?
[01:57] <SonikkuAmerica> I think [ top ] alone will list them
[02:01] <i3luefire_> i cant figure it out. but lubuntu is isntalled now
[02:02] <i3luefire_> reboot?
[02:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah
[02:04] <i3luefire_> logged in. and no issue yet
[02:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Into Lubuntu?
[02:05] <i3luefire_> except sluggish mouse. and yes lubuntu
[02:05] <i3luefire_> 1024x76860hz
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> OK... was it just switching for the sake of switching, or don't you know?
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> i3luefire_: btw pop into #lubuntu
[02:07] <i3luefire_> i dont know but. it happened as soon as i clicked the update manager notification
[02:15] <Magicantian> Hi, I am trying to compile MAME 0.148 (Vanilla Source) on Xubuntu 13.04 x64. The following link is the error I am getting. ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136033&p=12654035#post12654035 )
[03:19] <xubuntu987> hi could someone help me with my xubuntu question?
[03:20] <Magicantian> xubuntu987:  just ask your question, dont ask to ask, someone whom may know the answer to it will respond as soon as possible.
[03:21] <xubuntu987> ok.... see I've installed Xubuntu 12.04 LTS on my computer (there's no windows anymore) and I have no problems to use it. However when I've done the first 130 and something updates, I restart then as ask and I can't access anymore to Xubuntu
[03:22] <xubuntu987> I had to reinstall it again
[03:24] <Magicantian> that's pretty odd. I would say try 13.04 to see if that helps any. Otherwise if you want to use 12.04 you might want to wait to see if anyone else has any idea. If no one responds in here, it also may help to post this on the Ubuntu forums.
[03:25] <xubuntu987> the reason why i wanted to use the 12.04 was for the LTS version
[03:25] <holstein> xubuntu987: i would try the older kernel.. if you update, and it wont boot, or is broken, try with the older kernel
[03:25] <holstein> xubuntu987: at this stage, i would have no issues installing 13.04.. especially if my system didnt work with 12.04 for some reason
[03:25] <xubuntu987> ok I'll try doing that tomorrow, it's way to late for that....
[03:26] <xubuntu987> will download the image and let's hope it was just with the 12.04 the problem
[03:26] <xubuntu987> thanks anyway guys :D
[03:26] <Magicantian> You're welcome.
[03:34] <Magicantian> holstein:  I wrote up above a problem i am having, with a link to the ubuntu forums, do you have an idea as to what i could try doing?
[03:35] <holstein> !info mame
[03:35] <holstein> Magicantian: i would just use the one from the repos
[03:36] <Magicantian> yes, that package is out of date, which is why i am trying not to go backwards.
[03:37] <Unit193> Could file a bug for it to be updated.
[03:37] <holstein> Magicantian: if its too out of date for you, then, you can look for a PPA version, otherwise its going to be up to whoever is supplying you the packages you are using to support it properly
[03:37] <Unit193> Otherwise apt-get build-dep mame  and that should at least get you started out with all you need to compile it.
[03:38] <Magicantian> in the forum post it states build-dep was attempted and still churned out said error.
[03:39] <Unit193> Aha, I didn't look at that (and only barely processed your question.)
[03:41] <Unit193> http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mame.html more up to date in debian exp. you can build a package off that.
[03:44] <Magicantian> I guess what I don't understand, is, I was able to compile this on 12.04, 12.10 of Lubuntu
[03:48] <Unit193> (Trying out a build, see if it works.)
[03:49] <Magicantian> Cool, thanks Unit193. May I ask what Distro you are using?
[03:49] <Unit193> Xubuntu. ;)
[03:49] <Magicantian> 13.04?
[03:49] <Unit193> It's a 64bit chroot of precise, I have raring setup too though.
[04:08] <i3luefire_> which gfx card vendor has the best drivers for linux. i may need a card for decompressing 1080p mkv videos on the fly
[04:15] <Unit193> Magicantian: How long did it take for you to compile?  Ad did you say that you haven't tried it on 64bit yet, then?
[04:15] <Magicantian> I am on x64, i am compiling it now and its still going.
[04:15] <Magicantian> i started compiling at 11:49 pm EST
[04:18] <Magicantian> the last time i compiled, which i think was yesterday, seemed to take around 40 min to an hr
[04:18] <Magicantian> it fails at the very end when it's linking the mame executable.
[04:28] <Magicantian> it just errored out.
[04:28] <Magicantian> confirming that build-dep does not resolve issue.
[04:30] <Magicantian> http://pastebin.com/wEZeD2Ci
[04:33] <Unit193> I take it you've seen http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.games.devel/23471 ?
[04:34] <Magicantian> I am not too familiar with this site nor the full depths of compilation. Everything in the past just went so straight forward.
[04:34] <Unit193> Debian Bug #708716
[04:36] <Magicantian> I guess i'll wait till 0.149 rolls out.
[04:36] <Unit193> Mine should fail too, unless I have the needed patch.
[04:44] <Unit193> Worked.
[04:44] <Magicantian> hm
[04:48] <Unit193> About how long until their next release?
[04:49] <Magicantian> could be a month or two till .149, just a rough guess as i've been following mame for a long time.
[04:50] <Unit193> (Wondering if I should bother trying again with raring amd64. :P )
[04:51] <Magicantian> well, if it compiled on precise, that kind of makes sense, cause it did work for me on Lubuntu 12.04 & 12.10
[04:51] <Magicantian> I have not tried Lubuntu 13.04
[04:51] <Magicantian> Xubuntu 13.04 only.
[04:54] <Unit193> Same gcc, so...
[04:58] <Magicantian> I guess if it comes down to it and get desperate enough, ill just use 12.04 till LTS is up.
[05:04] <Magicantian> ya, think im gonna go do that real quick, revert to 12.04, thanks anyways
[05:05] <Unit193> Hopefully not trying to "downgrade"?
[05:07] <Magicantian> I was hoping to not have to go back to an older version of xubuntu as i already have 13.04 installed. I have some issues with Lubuntu and I find that Xubuntu is suiting me at the moment so..
[05:41] <redderhs> Unit193: Magicantian here, got 12.04 on, compiling now =]
[05:48] <Unit193> Aha, now I know the nick.
[05:48] <redderhs> aww you remembered me <3
[05:51] <redderhs> bam. it worked. phew, now my brain will leave me alone about computer issues.
[07:28] <pirkil> Hi, I have upgraded to 13.04 . I have installed newest sw update today and encfs stopped working. Has anyone the same problem?
[08:33] <Caesi> Hi All. I'm using the latest Xubuntu and am trying to access my sound settings but can't. Can anyone help? Many thanks.
[08:33] <TheSheep> what error are you getting?
[08:35] <Caesi> TheSheep: I just can't access it when I click on it (under the sound symbol in the navigation menu)
[08:35] <Caesi> TheSheep: Nothing happens.
[08:37] <MrElg> sound settings, is it the volume controller in the panel you mean?
[08:39] <TheSheep> Caesi: see the errors in ~/.xsessionerrors
[08:40] <Caesi> MrElg: Yes
[08:40] <Caesi> TheSheep: OK, will do, thanks
[08:43] <Caesi> TheSheep: it doesn't say anything about sound in there
[08:50] <Caesi> Need to restart - will be back in 3 minutes
[09:09] <zdigger> Hi. First of all - great job with xubuntu 13.04, looks very fancy and more fancier with faenza icons. My question is - how do I add a daemon to automatically start? I know there is /etc/rc.local, but I know there is command to disable/enable startup scripts
[09:09] <zdigger> just can't recall it
[09:10] <Caesi> TheSheep: Do you know how I can change the audio output device from jack to USB speakers?
[09:11] <zdigger> update-rc.d - we still use this, right?
[09:18] <TheSheep> Caesi: with padevchooser
[09:18] <Unit193> (Removed from repos.)
[09:20]  * ObrienDave is away: Snoozin
[09:59] <Caesi> TheSheep: thanks very much
[10:08] <Sysi> has anybody tried making full backup with tar and succesfully booted it after restoring? (after reinstalling grub)
[10:29] <koegs> Sysi: with rsync, not tar, but should be the same, i think
[10:46] <dej_1> just one q...on win7 i had music in the music folder now i can't see none of it?
[10:49] <MrElg> what do you mean, dej_1?
[12:26] <Jay_> Hi, i'm completely new to xubuntu/unix and i'm running it from a persistent live usb stick installation. Now i wonder how i can skip the installation window after boot which asks me everytime if i want to install xubuntu or use it in testmode. I want to go into testmode by default.
[12:30] <MrElg> its going to ask you by default, its an installer you're trying, i just lets you install from within the os
[12:30] <MrElg> if you wish to run os from your stick, you should rather install the os to the usb, and then run the installed os from there
[12:33] <Jay_> Is there a quick way to do that without loosing my current setup with all the settings i made already?
[12:34] <knome> Jay_, you could backup your /home, then install to the usb stick and copy /home back
[12:37] <Jay_> I guess drivers are not included in /home dir so i have to reinstall them. Thanks for your help!
[12:38] <knome> Jay_, no, they are not
[12:38] <MrElg> drivers and the programs you have are not in home
[12:38] <knome> Jay_, and no problem; enjoy
[12:38] <knome> yes, just settings, but that helps most people a lot
[12:38] <knome> installing apps and drivers is easy enough
[12:38] <MrElg> sure, at least a lot easier than win
[12:56] <xubuntu638> Hi! I have a quick question that someone here may be able to answere. I am trying to install MATLAB on my xubuntu machine. I'm using a thinkpad x1 carbon that has dual-boot windows and xubuntu. During activation matlab requires an "eth" device - however, my laptop doesn't have an ethernet card or connector. Is there any way I can mimic an eth device that MATLAB can use for activation? Thanks a lot.
[12:57] <knome> xubuntu638, is it unable to use any other devices like wlan0 ?
[12:58] <xubuntu638> Yes - it needs an eth device unfortunately
[12:58] <xubuntu638> could i rename wlan0 into eth0 or something like that?
[13:00] <knome> you might be able to set up a "fake" eth device that's piped to wlan0, but i have no idea how you'd do that
[13:00] <xubuntu638> OK, I will try and look for a solution like that
[13:01] <knome> good luck
[13:03] <Fedor_Mihalych> hi there, i am completely new to linux and xubuntu. have some questions. first of all. i have 5 buttons mouse, xubuntu see it like 3 buttons mouse. How can i change it and remap 2 additional buttons?
[13:03] <Fedor_Mihalych> xubuntu 13.04
[13:04] <Fedor_Mihalych> is there some kind of gui utilite or something?
[13:08] <Fedor_Mihalych> or step to step how-to...
[13:08] <MrElg> there should be a way, but i havent done it in xubuntu before
[13:09] <MrElg> let me check
[13:10] <MrElg> see if this helps you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[13:12] <xubuntu456> hh
[13:12] <Fedor_Mihalych> lets see..
[13:17] <Sysi> using xinput like this guide might be easier https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Logitech_Marblemouse_USB
[13:24] <Yanakin> I have a little problem installing xubuntu. anyone can help ?
[13:25] <knome> !ask | Yanakin
[13:26] <Yanakin> -e-after installing xubuntu I reboot my computer and then i get an error message saying: error: no such device: 5f701740-e935-4d2a-8ceb-2a3d9a6d1adb grub rescue> what can I do to fix that ?
[13:27] <GridCube> Yanakin, you installed from an usb?
[13:27] <Yanakin> xubuntu is on a dvd in my usb dvd drive
[13:28] <GridCube> was there an usb pendrive in the machine?
[13:28] <GridCube> while you installed?
[13:28] <Yanakin> no. all i have is a remote hard drive plugged in the usb port
[13:28] <GridCube> thats the same
[13:29] <Yanakin> should i remove it while installing ?
[13:29] <GridCube> its plugged now?
[13:29] <Yanakin> yes while im installing
[13:29] <GridCube> boot from the livecd again and install boot-repair
[13:30] <GridCube> use it to choose from wich drive you want to boot
[13:30] <GridCube> try to see that it does NOT install grub on the external disk, unless ofcourse thats what you want
[13:30] <Yanakin> how do i install boot-repair ?
[13:30] <GridCube> !boot-repair
[13:30] <GridCube> great
[13:31] <GridCube> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[13:31] <Yanakin> all right! got it ! Ill do that right away. thank you very much my friend.
[13:35] <tech1337> anyone able to help with a non booting xubuntu after upgrade
[13:35] <tech1337> 12 - 13.04?
[13:35] <GridCube> !details | tech1337
[13:37] <Fedor_Mihalych> well.. that Sysi's tutorial is kinda hard for me..      http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Mice-and-Pointing-Devices/M570-and-Linux/m-p/557682/highlight/true#M31605   in this post it looks easier, but there is no such place "/etc/X11/xorg.conf " in xubuntu. is it "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" ?
[13:37] <tech1337> I have a problem after upgrading xubuntu 12.10 to 13.04, boot hangs and stops at * Starting Bridge Socket Events into Upstart
[13:38] <GridCube> no, Fedor_Mihalych , you have to generate a new xorg.conf, its not there by default
[13:38] <Fedor_Mihalych> GridCube, how to do it?
[13:39] <GridCube> !xorg.conf
[13:41] <knome> Fedor_Mihalych, 'Xorg :1 -configure' should create one
[13:43] <Fedor_Mihalych> knome, after this command it says: Fatal server error:
[13:43] <Fedor_Mihalych> Server is already active for display 0
[13:43] <Fedor_Mihalych> 	If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[13:43] <Fedor_Mihalych> 	and start again.
[13:45] <Fedor_Mihalych> should i remove that .X0-lock first?
[13:46] <knome> Fedor_Mihalych, try replacing :1 with :0
[13:48] <Fedor_Mihalych> same: :~$ Xorg :0 -configure
[13:48] <Fedor_Mihalych> Fatal server error:
[13:48] <Fedor_Mihalych> Server is already active for display 0
[13:48] <Fedor_Mihalych> 	If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[13:48] <Fedor_Mihalych> 	and start again.
[13:49] <knome> try with sudo then
[13:51] <Fedor_Mihalych> like this? sudo X -configure
[13:51] <knome> yes
[13:52] <Fedor_Mihalych> absolutely same result
[13:53] <GridCube> you need to kill your session and do it from a tty
[13:53] <Fedor_Mihalych> what is tty?
[13:54] <GridCube> close you session, go to a tty, do sudo service lightdm stop and then sudo Xorg -configure then restart the lightdm  service
[13:54] <GridCube> a tty its one of the 6 termianls you can access by pressing ctrl-alt-F1 to F6
[13:54] <GridCube> in F7 there is the gui you are using now
[13:54] <GridCube> you can cycle trhought them all now
[13:55] <Fedor_Mihalych> to restart lightdm - sudo service lightdm start?
[13:56] <GridCube> im pretty sure that is yes
[14:08] <Fedor_Mihalych> it was said configuration failed in the end, but there was a  short list of hardware before
[14:08] <JohnC> I have Xubuntu LTS 12.04 running well with a couple of annoyances. In particular, when I attach a USB memory stick I can only access that as root.  As a user when I cd to /media/memstick it says "permissions denied"
[14:09] <GridCube> Fedor_Mihalych, if you just want to add the settings for the mouse you could try just making an empty xorg.conf file and add the settings
[14:10] <Fedor_Mihalych> in etc/x11/ ?
[14:10] <GridCube> then restart the x server and see, if the x server doesnt boot back you can go to a tty and do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[14:10] <GridCube> yes
[14:13] <Fedor_Mihalych> permisson denied
[14:14] <Fedor_Mihalych> or what command to create it in console?
[14:15] <MrElg> permission denied, did you start with sudo?
[14:15] <Fedor_Mihalych> nope, i dont know how sudo use in this case
[14:16] <Fedor_Mihalych> how to use
[14:16] <MrElg> what are the command you're typing?
[14:17] <MrElg> use sudo before it
[14:17] <Fedor_Mihalych> i ve tried via file manger
[14:17] <brainwash> Fedor_Mihalych: is your system not able to detect the extra buttons or are you just not able to map these buttons without a gui?
[14:17] <MrElg> oh, file manager isn't in root, use terminal
[14:18] <brainwash> Fedor_Mihalych: you can run "xev" in a terminal window and test your mouse buttons inside the window which pops out
[14:20] <Fedor_Mihalych> brainwash, how to check it? in system settings it - logitech unyfying device with no settings for remapping, and that 2 additional buttons arent work at all
[14:21] <Fedor_Mihalych> MrElg, what comand to create a file with sudo, is it just sudo /etc/x11/xorg.conf ?
[14:24] <MrElg> sudo mousepad  /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[14:24] <Myrtti> gksudo.
[14:25] <MrElg> if you use the basic text editor shipped with xubuntu, Fedor_Mihalych
[14:25] <Myrtti> my eyes start to twitch whenever someone suggests using sudo with graphical apps
[14:25] <Myrtti> use gksudo or little kittens will cry
[14:26] <MrElg> ;)
[14:26] <brainwash> but.. some people like to live dangerously :D
[14:26] <genii-around> !gksu
[14:30] <GridCube> its X11 no x11
[14:31] <GridCube> !case
[14:31] <Fedor_Mihalych> yep, now it saved
[14:32] <GridCube> Fedor_Mihalych, you used X11 right, no x11?
[14:32] <Fedor_Mihalych> so will it be enough - Section "InputDevice"
[14:32] <Fedor_Mihalych>     Identifier  "Mouse0"
[14:32] <Fedor_Mihalych>     Driver      "mouse"
[14:32] <Fedor_Mihalych> Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
[14:32] <Fedor_Mihalych>     Option        "Device" "/dev/mouse"
[14:32] <Fedor_Mihalych> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[14:32] <Myrtti> gah
[14:32] <Fedor_Mihalych> Option "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3 6 7 10 11"
[14:32] <Fedor_Mihalych> Option "Emulate3Buttons" "false"
[14:32] <Fedor_Mihalych> EndSection    ?
[14:32] <GridCube> no
[14:32] <Myrtti> pastebin
[14:32] <GridCube> !pastebin
[14:33] <GridCube> and yes, that should do that
[14:33] <Fedor_Mihalych> GridCube, yes, X11
[14:33] <GridCube> ok
[14:33] <Fedor_Mihalych> it didnt allow to save file with x11 as i typed first )
[14:34] <Fedor_Mihalych> fool proof in action )
[14:34] <GridCube> in this case
[14:37] <Fedor_Mihalych> to  restart the x server is it enough just close session and enter again or it need reboot system?
[14:37] <Fedor_Mihalych> just asking for the future..
[14:38] <genii-around> If logout to main login screen, ctrl-alt-f1  and login to command prompt then usually sudo restart lightdm
[14:41] <Fedor_Mihalych> and last moment before restart.  in this command ' sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old'   mv means move?  is it ok that there is no xorg.conf.old in X11?
[14:42] <Fedor_Mihalych> should i create the empty one before restart?
[14:43] <Myrtti> it's to make a backup of the file you have
[14:43] <Myrtti> I'd probably use cp myself tho
[14:44] <Fedor_Mihalych> what is cp?
[14:44] <Myrtti> copy
[14:45] <Fedor_Mihalych> cp instead of mv in that command? didnt get
[14:47] <GridCube> no
[14:47] <GridCube> mv its the one, you want to remove it in case something fails
[14:47] <GridCube> Fedor_Mihalych,
[14:48] <GridCube> cp will leave it there and you wont be able to boot, mv its for renaming it to .old
[14:48] <GridCube> so you will be able to boot
[14:48] <Fedor_Mihalych> i see, thanks
[14:49] <GridCube> Fedor_Mihalych, if it boots properly you dont need to do that
[14:52] <Fedor_Mihalych> ok, seems that 2 buttons are working, first part is done
[14:53] <Fedor_Mihalych> now how to remap em to midlle click and double click instead of back \ forward
[15:16] <L30> hello
[15:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Hello
[15:24] <L30> quick question. If I installed Lubuntu as an OS can I remove Lubuntu-desktop sicne I now use Xubuntu?
[15:34] <knome> !purexubuntu | L30
[15:34] <knome> hmm...
[15:34] <knome> that page needs updating
[15:35] <genii-around> Yes :(
[15:40] <Fedor_Mihalych> so, what i should change here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5697353/   to double midlle click buton and double left click instead back and forward  ?
[15:53] <xubuntu338> Hello, I'm new to linux and wanted to install xubuntu on my old thinkpad machine.  I copied the image 12.4 onto CD, and set my BIOS to boot from it.  However, it keeps booting from windows.  Anybody out there have any suggestions?
[15:54] <MrElg> is there any boot boost or security boot on? they often has to be turned of
[15:55] <xubuntu338> let me get back to bios and i'll let you know.
[15:55] <genii-around> Also, did you just copy the ISO file to a CD/DV D or did you burn it as an image ?
[15:59] <xubuntu338> my system has a "boot mode" function with options for "quick" which is "intended to boot the operating system as soon as possible by reducing the POST elapsed time" and "Diagnostics" which is used for problem determination, but I don't see any security or boost boot options
[16:00] <MrElg> did you do like genii said? burn image files
[16:00] <MrElg> or just as iso file
[16:01] <xubuntu338> I downloaded the image, unzipped it and copied it to my CD write "prep" folder and hit copy
[16:02] <MrElg> at boot screen, did you press esc or something to get to boot menu, or does nothing happen
[16:02] <xubuntu338> i had two options when it wrote to the disk, one I think allowed me to use the disk as a USB drive type storage device
[16:02] <MrElg> F1 it is
[16:03] <xubuntu338> I might have to burn it the other way
[16:03] <xubuntu338> I used f1 to get to the BIOS set up screen
[16:03] <MrElg> oh, i dont know how you burned it, anyways, if you have an usb drive available, its just as easy to boot from that as from the disc, just use unetbootin
[16:04] <xubuntu338> I think I still have to burn it as an image
[16:04] <xubuntu338> thanks for the help guys
[16:04] <MrElg> not the bios setup, the boot menu, try F12
[16:54] <livingdaylight> Hi this isn't a xubuntu question, but radiotray related
[16:54] <livingdaylight> or for that matter any media player that has radio
[16:55] <livingdaylight> Want to know how to get radio that is embedded in a website so i can add to my radio app
[16:55] <livingdaylight> for instance: http://528records.com/radio how would I get the radio url? I've looked in 'source' but don't see it
[16:55] <holstein> livingdaylight: i would ask the maintainer of the web service.. maybe try one of the *-offtopic channels
[17:04] <genii-around> The music is called by /files/radio-player/muses-config.swf in line 55 of the source code. Whatever options they are feeding it determine the source of the music. Eg: SWFObject("/files/radio-player/muses-config.swf", "sotester", "407", "26", "9", "#E5E5E5");          is using sotester, and whatever the variables of 407, 26, 9, and #E5E5E5  mean internally to the Muses flash player
[17:08] <livingdaylight> thx, genii-around
[17:08] <livingdaylight> i found an add on for FF which should give me the embedded url of streams. just testing it now
[17:08] <genii-around> DownloadHelper firefox extension shows the url for the default radio station here as 528records.com:8000/main_station_free?1369414634082.mp3 but of course since it's streaming, putting the url in the bar just times out since it tries to download it instead  of just playing it as it arrives
[17:10] <GridCube> and mplaying it?
[17:11] <livingdaylight> UnPlug addon not working for me on this particular url
[17:12] <livingdaylight> 528records.com:8000/main_station_free?1369414634082.mp3 doesn't work when I insert it into radiotray
[17:13] <genii-around> Yes, as I explained, it wants to download it first and then play it. But it will hang because it can never finish downloading since it's continuously streaming
[17:29] <livingdaylight> genii-around, ok, i thought you were experience was in reference to that particular extension (Downloadhelper) and might otherwise work if I put the url in a radioapp like radiotray
[17:51] <livingdaylight> http://528records.com:8000/main_station_free now works... the ?1369...mp3 was superfluous
[17:54] <genii-around> Interesting
[17:56] <firehawk> hello
[19:08] <aiena> hi koegs
[19:08] <aiena> suppose i have partially downlaoded dependencies for a software (not installed any) and i want to cleanup is there a way ?
[19:09] <aiena> e.g. if i run sudo apt-get install xxx and then i press ctrl+c in terminal because i decided i don't want it ?
[19:10] <knome> aiena, sudo apt-get clean
[19:10] <aiena> thanks a lot :)
[19:10] <aiena> so that will clean paritally doenloaded files too
[19:10] <aiena> knome:
[19:10] <knome> yes.
[19:11] <aiena> great
[19:17] <aiena> knome: will the libreoffice package 4.0 package directly from the site work on xubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[19:17] <aiena> *libreoffice 4.0 package
[19:17] <koegs> there is a ppa for 4.x
[19:17] <aiena> hmm
[19:17] <aiena> but that ppa is alpha ans betas
[19:17] <koegs> nope
[19:17] <aiena> I am taking about the 4.0 release
[19:18] <aiena> hmm
[19:18] <aiena> koegs which one ?
[19:18]  * aiena is very interested
[19:18] <Unit193> Anything outside of the main repos isn't officially supported, so YMMV.
[19:18] <aiena> Unit193: I know most ppa's arent anyways
[19:18] <koegs> https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-4-0
[19:21] <aiena> koegs thats not in typical ppa format
[19:21] <aiena> do you add it as ppa:https://....
[19:21] <koegs> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa
[19:22] <aiena> is this maintained by libreoffice themselves ?
[19:22] <aiena> hmm seems so :)
[19:27] <User123> Hello all, I seem to have a problem with apt-get upgrade
[19:27] <Juanqui13> hi
[19:28] <Juanqui13> i have a low resources pc, pentium 300 Mhz, 128MB RAM and  would like to install xubuntu on it, will it work? barely?
[19:28] <genii-around> User123: A more specific description of the problem will help us to help you
[19:28] <Juanqui13> breakaly? XD
[19:29] <aiena> User123: What is the problem ?
[19:29] <Juanqui13> I can't sell it, y can't trash it (don't like trashing) i need to make some kind of use of it
[19:29] <toast> so i messed up somewhere and now whenever i try to sudo anything i get that im not in the sudo list any ideas?
[19:29] <User123> Processing was halted because therE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[19:30] <aiena> Juanqui13: yes it will the basic ubuntu
[19:30] <aiena> *xubunut
[19:30] <aiena> Juanqui13: but you should use lubuntu
[19:30] <aiena> better for that pc me thinks
[19:30] <User123> I get that error when trying "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[19:30] <knome> User123, do you have another package manager running?
[19:31] <Juanqui13> right... can't thank you enough :) bye bye
[19:31] <aiena> User123: try http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-985232.html
[19:32] <User123> aiena: I have already tried everything in that thread. Thank you for the link, though
[19:32] <User123> knome: I don't believe so. I am new to linux, however. How could I be sure I do not have another package manager running?
[19:32] <aiena> is synaptics open ?
[19:33] <User123> No, it's not
[19:33] <aiena> knome: but then a different error would have shown if a package manager was open
[19:33] <aiena> not that
[19:33] <aiena> right
[19:34] <User123> Should I pastebin the output and you could take a look?
[19:34] <aiena> knome: the error would be  " Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" right
[19:35] <User123> http://pastebin.com/460b8MJJ
[19:35] <aiena> User123: one way to fix such a bug would be to backup and reinstall xubuntu but that is last resort if everything esle does not work.
[19:35] <User123> Yes, I have considered reinstalling but I've not yet gotten that desperate
[19:35] <aiena> i mean backup all data + make a list of installed software and ppa's and configs are overwrite whatever is messed up.
[19:36] <aiena> i just cleaned up my xubuntu partition because i had a lot of junk and messed up configs eating up space.
[19:37] <toast> how do i readd my name to the sudoers list?
[19:37] <User123> I was just going to completely reinstall Xubuntu. If I do indeed have to reinstall, I'll not worry about backing up the little data I have
[19:41] <User123> Any advice? :/
[19:41] <aiena> hmm go for a reinstall
[19:41] <aiena> I think that if you leave it like this more things will break over time
[19:42] <User123> Is there any way to fix the current issue? Should fix everything else, right?
[19:42] <aiena> the worst thing is that it is difficult to know the cause only the symptoms are visible
[19:42] <aiena> Unit193: I don't know - as knome
[19:42] <aiena> *ask
[19:42] <toast> myshit
[19:43] <toast> sorry didnt mean to put that there
[19:43] <aiena> toast: sudo adduser <username> sudo
[19:43] <User123> I am on a 1.66GHz processor with 1024MB of RAM. Should I keep Xubuntu or try out Ubuntu? I need a friendly interface as I am not well-educated with Linux :)
[19:44] <toast> im not in the udoers list so i cant do that
[19:44] <aiena> hmm keep xubuntu
[19:44] <aiena> User123: ubuntu hogs resources unnecessarily
[19:44] <aiena> xfce is lighter and very user freindly compared to unity
[19:44] <aiena> so you can do more with the same hardware specs
[19:45] <User123> That is why I used Xubuntu in the first place. Ubuntu looks a bit more user friendly though :p
[19:45] <aiena> I have 4gb ram and a a 2.4 ghz i5 but i run xubuntu because it leaves more cpu and ram for graphics etc.
[19:45] <aiena> User123: its a personal choice
[19:46] <User123> Hmm, I am looking for speed and such. I will keep Xubuntu for now. I would definitely prefer Ubuntu's GUI though :P
[19:46] <aiena> e.g. I hate pidgin and love kvirc so much so that i compiled the latest from source but i know there are loads of users who love pidgin
[19:48] <Pwnna> is there a way to specify the panel's screen
[19:48] <Pwnna> via shell?
[19:49] <aiena> User123: do you have a lot to loose by installing xubuntu from scratch ?
[19:50] <User123> Not data-wise. I just don't have the time right now :) I will probably end up doing a clean install, though
[19:50] <aiena> yeah i agree it takes time
[19:51] <aiena> to pull everything again a day or 2
[19:52] <aiena> toast: see if http://www.ehow.com/how_7310279_root-password-ubuntu.html helps
[19:55] <aiena> knome: ho do i install the latest flash on my system ?
[19:55] <aiena> *how
[19:56] <knome> aiena, toast: please don't enable the root account.
[19:56] <aiena> knome: i do not wish to
[19:56] <aiena> toast has been locked out
[19:56] <aiena> by removing sudo priviliedges from his own account
[19:57] <aiena> so that seems the only logical way i guess
[19:57] <knome> with the recovery mode one should be able to recover the password without enabling the root account
[19:57] <knome> !rootsudo
[19:57] <aiena> wehn he cannot use sudo adduser <username> sudo
[19:57] <aiena> toast: try that
[19:57] <aiena> what knome said
[19:58] <toast> im lost
[19:58] <aiena> knome: can you guide toast
[19:58] <aiena> giver him a step by step
[19:59] <aiena> *him/her
[19:59] <toast> him
[19:59] <knome> toast, the last link in the factoid i just posted should guide you through it
[20:00] <aiena> toast: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo link
[20:00] <aiena> knome: any idea how to install the latest flash on xubuntu ?
[20:00] <toast> im there looking
[20:01] <knome> aiena, if you mean the absolutely latest, i don't think you can get it without having chrome
[20:01] <knome> and i don't know chrome/their stuff enough to know if even they'll be able to install the latest latest flash
[20:02] <aiena> hmm on the flash website i can only find a tarball and something for the yum package manager
[20:05] <Sysi> ubuntu flash packages download flash from addobe, linux versions just are behind
[20:06] <Sysi> I don't know if even chrome has the new flash
[20:08] <aiena> knome: should i install ubuntu-restricted-extras or xubunt-restricted-extras is enough to get it ?
[20:08] <aiena> *xubuntu
[20:09] <Sysi> you don't need the whole restricted-extras, but that does contain it
[20:09] <Sysi> single package is flashplugin-installer
[20:11] <aiena> thanks a lot
[20:11] <aiena> i did not want to install all the rest
[20:11] <aiena> besides it was removing libavcodec and libavutil needed by vlc
[20:16] <peyam> hi people
[20:16] <peyam> what is the deal. you release new kernels everyday
[20:17] <peyam> I updated to 3.5.30 yestarday and today to 31
[20:17] <knome> peyam, we don't want your pc to leak like a broken umbrella.
[20:17] <knome> peyam, if you don't want to upgrade... don't upgrade.
[20:18] <peyam> yeah! but why not release the latest one!
[20:19] <knome> because maybe it wasn't avilable yesterday.
[20:19] <knome> peyam, and please calm down
[20:19] <peyam> im calm! ? :D
[20:20] <knome> your exclamation marks give a different impression
[20:20] <aiena> lol
[20:21] <peyam> I'm pretty calm actully! I inactivate the automatic updates.so iI do it manually. i was surprised
[20:21] <aiena> peyam but you are using raring i guess if you are using 3.5.x kernel
[20:21] <peyam> what is raring?
[20:21] <aiena> so you would expect frequent updates
[20:21] <aiena> ubinti 13.04
[20:21] <knome> aiena, 3.8.x in raring...
[20:22] <aiena> ok
[20:22] <aiena> peyam sorry
[20:22] <peyam> no I use 12.10. I installed 13.04 and I felt that lxubuntu 12.10 was much more stable and nicer.
[20:22] <aiena> ok
[20:23] <aiena> but yes still higher than the lts
[20:23] <peyam> 12.10 is better than lts and 13.04 so far
[20:23] <peyam> let see what updates do to 13.04
[20:24] <knome> peyam, if you want to avoid as much updates as possible, stick with the lts and disable most repositories (including proposed, backports, etc)
[20:24] <peyam> :P
[20:24] <peyam> peyam <3 12.10
[20:24] <knome> that will naturally also give you older software versions, but you'll avoid updates
[20:25] <aiena> hehe
[20:25] <peyam> if I run 12.10 will the software not be updated?
[20:25] <aiena> knome: but there is a ppa for what you need in that case topo
[20:25] <aiena> *too
[20:25] <aiena> thats one thing i like about ubuntu
[20:25] <aiena> want xfce 4.10 on lts and you can still have it :)
[20:26] <knome> aiena, why would you disable supported updates and then add a ppa? :P
[20:26] <aiena> i wouldnt
[20:26] <aiena> i could actually
[20:26] <knome> peyam, that's not what i'm saying.
[20:27] <aiena> peyam: software would be updated way more me thinks
[20:27] <knome> peyam, but ultimately, when the support period is over, you won't get updates and you're also not able to upgrade to later versions.
[20:27] <aiena> LTS would only be security fixes and maybe upgrades to the latest FF browser
[20:27] <sketch_> hey this is toast and on my rm's pc, so i got into the recovery and tried to add user and i get gpasswd: cannot lock any ideas?
[20:28] <aiena> knome: ??
[20:28] <knome> sketch_, did you follow the url at all?
[20:28] <peyam> knome: I still dont understand! so in few years I can have the latest version of FF if I still run 12.10?
[20:28] <knome> peyam, no.
[20:28] <peyam> dåligt
[20:29] <aiena> no peyam in the LTS you always have the latest FF
[20:29] <sketch_> yeah i believe i did... send me the link again
[20:29] <peyam> aiena: so how do I update my softwares?
[20:29] <sketch_> please
[20:29] <aiena> sketch http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[20:29] <knome> peyam, it isn't. that's the release schedule, and if you're installing a normal release, there will be no updates after 9 months.
[20:29] <aiena> *sketch_
[20:29] <aiena> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[20:29] <knome> peyam, you don't. if you stay with 12.10 for more than 9 months, you're on your own
[20:30] <sketch_> ok im there
[20:30] <aiena> are you in the main root account ?
[20:30] <peyam> wel.. åhhh. my dropbox and everything.. such a pain in the ass
[20:30] <knome> peyam, please watch the language.
[20:30] <aiena> lol yes
[20:30] <aiena> but thats the price you pay
[20:30] <aiena> for not using LTS
[20:31] <aiena> and everyong who lives on the bleeding edge doesnt minf
[20:31] <aiena> *mind
[20:31] <knome> exactly.
[20:31] <peyam> LTs is ugly
[20:31] <sketch_> duh... i forgot to do the remount
[20:31] <aiena> peyam: you signed yourself up for the bleeding edge
[20:31] <aiena> so thats what you get
[20:31] <peyam> yeah. hahaha
[20:31] <aiena> if you dont like it stick to LTS and use ppa's for the latest backports
[20:31] <knome> aiena, well not the bleeding edge... ;) but at least regular updates/upgrades.
[20:32] <aiena> knome: i know bleeding edge is fedora or ringtail atm
[20:32] <peyam> knome: aiena when will the latest updates for 12.10 be released?
[20:32] <aiena> but yeah peyam isnt far behind
[20:32] <aiena> peyam better to upgrade to raring
[20:32] <aiena> and watch as it gets better
[20:32] <aiena> if you dont like 12.04
[20:33] <peyam> aiena: yeah but the main menu had someproblem! and one more issue that I dont remember
[20:33] <Sysi> peyam: you can install theme of 12.10 to 12.04 from shimmerproject ppa
[20:33] <knome> october 2012 + 18 months (9 months for normal releases starting with 13.04). so april 2014.
[20:33] <aiena> if you prefer stability and peace of mind then stick to older  but well tried and tested 12.04 with a lot of experience at its hands.
[20:33] <knome> peyam, if there are bugs in software, report them and the developers can fix them.
[20:33] <peyam> great. knome so the updates for all softwares will be released and not just the kernel?
[20:34] <aiena> yes
[20:34] <aiena> thats the pro fo ringtail
[20:34] <knome> bug fixes mostly
[20:34] <peyam> knome:  the problem is that i cant wait for solutions.. thats why I wait untill the raring is optimal before I install it. then I can directly install the updates.
[20:34] <aiena> yes but you get the latest audacity and all the gizmos :)
[20:34] <knome> a new major release of xfce isn't something the xubuntu team would be porting for a normal release
[20:35] <knome> peyam, that sounds much like you should stick with the LTS releases.
[20:35] <knome> peyam, theming is always fixable
[20:35] <aiena> yes peyam
[20:35] <aiena> but peyam you seem to be in limbo
[20:35] <peyam> I guess i will wait. since I 'm in examinationperiod and later in summer I will upgrade
[20:35] <peyam> aiena: what is a limbo?
[20:36] <aiena> you dont want the bleeding edge you want a lot of support and are not happy with the currentl LTS
[20:36] <aiena> peyam: its the place between heaven and hell
[20:36] <aiena> in this context it means you have 2 opposites tearing at you and dont know where to go.
[20:36] <peyam> aiena: well I have the 12.10 . If I want to change the os I will rather upgrade to 13.04.
[20:36] <aiena> well then do that
[20:36] <aiena> and watch 13.0.4 get better
[20:37] <aiena> as it gradually evolved into the next LTS
[20:37] <aiena> *evolves
[20:37] <aiena> or stick to 12.04 :P
[20:37] <peyam> I want to upgrade but when the updates are pretty good. so I wont get problems with stuff. becouse the smallest thing can make me very upset
[20:37] <aiena> and wait for the next LTS - limbo
[20:37] <peyam> is Limbo a bad word?
[20:38] <knome> peyam, again, it sounds like the LTS release would be optimal for you.
[20:38] <aiena> knome would have asked me to watch my language in that case - no
[20:38] <elfy> though it's all getting a bit offtopic
[20:38] <peyam> knome: but it is ugly and especially the installations process :P
[20:38] <aiena> limbo is not a bad word.
[20:38] <aiena> elfy indeed
[20:38] <peyam> aiena: then we both are limbos
[20:39] <aiena> peyam hop onto xubuntu-offtopic
[20:39] <peyam> okej
[20:39] <peyam> before the boss get angry
[20:39] <knome> peyam, as i said, theming is fixable. also, you're not looking at the installation every day, are you?
[20:39] <aiena> peyam: this is a support channel and this fun convo is getting too long :)
[20:39] <knome> starting to get repeating, ok otherwise ;)
[20:59] <Sysi> can I use same port for two different applications? other needs TCP and other UDP
[21:20] <genii-around> Sysi: I think you'd have to use xinetd to pass it off to some packet inspection routine which would then figure out what app should get what packets
[21:22] <Sysi> I guess I'll just try and see
[22:17] <xubuntu750> hello , can someone help me with activating the mic for using skype? just installed xubuntu and touched all buttons of pavucontrol but i don t know anything about it
[22:18] <TheSheep> !skype
[22:18] <TheSheep> see 'troubleshooting skype' link in there
[22:19] <xubuntu750> skype is installed already
[22:19] <xubuntu750> i don't want to record, i just want the mic to work
[22:20] <MrElg> doesn't the input devices in the control work?
[22:21] <xubuntu750> no, it s written 'no input device available'
[22:21] <MrElg> probably a driver issue then, it seems like it isn't installed
[22:22] <xubuntu750> what do i need to do then?
[22:25] <MrElg> sorry, try google for it, not sure if i can help properly, do you use mic through usb? or through mini jack
[22:25] <xubuntu750> mini jack
[22:26] <MrElg> try to run alsamixer from the terminal, how does it work?
[22:27] <TheSheep> xubuntu750: that page has hints for troubleshooting, not just installation
[22:29] <xubuntu750> ok. i don't know. any suggestions are welcome
[22:32] <th0r> xubuntu750: I had some issues a while back that I traced to pulse audio. I have made it a practice since to not use pulse, just alsa. I am not saying this will solve your problem, but if you are looking for straws to grab onto.....
[22:33] <MrElg> pulse audio has a lot of issues, i had to fix some on my bodhi related to pcm not long ago
[22:33] <MrElg> if you enter the terminal, type alsamixer, press F4, what does it say, can you detect there
[22:34] <MrElg> which computer do you have, there is a lot of similar errors described on google
[22:37] <xubuntu750> intel ICH6 realtech ALC 655 rev 0
[22:38] <xubuntu750> i don  t know what info is needed
[22:43] <MrElg> i cannot say what the problem is, there is many different troubleshooting options out there, the simplest being just reinstall alsamixer and drivers, search for 'microphone not detected linux' and you'll probably be the best one to find what matches your case
[23:22] <dado33> good evening i hace this problem
[23:22] <dado33> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.10
[23:22] <dado33> [sudo] password for dado33:
[23:22] <dado33> You are about to add the following PPA to your system:
[23:22] <dado33>  Xfce 4.10 packages for Xubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin).
[23:22] <dado33> Please note that only Xfce 4.8 is officially supported on Xubuntu 12.04. Therefore, any bug report filed with this PPA enabled is likely to get rejected, or you may be asked to reproduce the issue with Xfce 4.8. The first Xubuntu release to feature Xfce 4.10 will be Xubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal).
[23:22] <dado33>  More info: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10
[23:22] <dado33> Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it
[23:22] <dado33> Exception in thread Thread-1:
[23:22] <dado33> Traceback (most recent call last):
[23:22] <dado33>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/threading.py", line 551, in __bootstrap_inner
[23:22] <dado33>     self.run()
[23:22] <dado33>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/softwareproperties/ppa.py", line 99, in run
[23:22] <dado33>     self.add_ppa_signing_key(self.ppa_path)
[23:22] <dado33>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/softwareproperties/ppa.py", line 132, in add_ppa_signing_key
[23:22] <dado33>     tmp_keyring_dir = tempfile.mkdtemp()
[23:22] <dado33>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/tempfile.py", line 322, in mkdtemp
[23:22] <dado33>     name = names.next()
[23:23] <dado33>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/tempfile.py", line 141, in next
[23:23] <dado33>     letters = [choose(c) for dummy in "123456"]
[23:23] <dado33>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/random.py", line 274, in choice
[23:23] <dado33>     return seq[int(self.random() * len(seq))]  # raises IndexError if seq is empty
[23:23] <th0r> dado33: nice flood
[23:23] <dado33> ValueError: cannot convert float NaN to integer
[23:23] <dado33> sorry :D
[23:24] <koegs> do you use a proxy?
[23:24] <dado33> no t..
[23:24] <dado33> i don use
[23:25] <dado33> no, i dont use
[23:26] <nantou> alll my local goldendict dictionaries have disappeared, but the local folder is instact, any tips?
[23:27] <nantou> its been like that since the upgrade to 13.04
[23:40] <peyam> knome: can you change the log in screen in 13.04?
[23:41] <peyam> so ugly
[23:42] <peyam> why cant I hear anything from youtube while chatting on skype?
[23:53] <Inoki> Hi all, did anyone manage to get Bluetooth working?
[23:53] <Inoki> I'm on 12.10