[00:02] the card works fine [00:02] I think it's nvidia [00:02] maybe I'll try nvidia driver [00:03] make sure before you install the driver [00:03] but if that does not work, I'll wait for 14.04 and will use ubuntu with classic mode instead [00:04] why not go for 13.04? [00:04] now I tried xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto --output DVI-0 --auto --right-of VGA-0 and everything was fine [00:05] cool [00:05] then I put that command into autostart [00:05] and when logging in I end up with black screens and have no idea how to change that [00:05] *** [00:06] 13.04 will have the same problem, because it's still xfce4.10 [00:06] it's for my father, therefore I need something stable, I don't want to change it every 9 months [00:06] gotcha [00:06] but thank you [01:47] help. i am having issues with my display constantly changing res and refresh rate. it is a 1080p hdtv and the signal is going through hdmi and through an surround sound reciever [01:48] It's changing resolutions? How? [01:48] idk [01:50] screen just keeps saying that the res is 1nnnX7nnn then another different one and so on. randomly like it cant guess the available modes of my tv [01:50] 50hz 29hz 60hz 720p ... [01:51] 1024x768 [01:51] Have you tried [ xrandr -s $WIDTHx$HEIGHT ], where $WIDTH is width and $HEIGHT is height? [01:51] i cant get anything typed in on the main screen... can it be done via ssh? [01:52] Try hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1 [01:53] mouse is also very very sluggish. this is the first time i have booted with a display. i had a standard ubuntu server until i installed xubuntu-desktop [01:53] k === Suave_ is now known as Suave [01:54] ok im in [01:54] Logged in and such? [01:55] yea [01:55] it says cant open display [01:55] when i did xrandr... [01:55] You might try another desktop environment... if there's another problem we can then trace it to the X server. [01:56] I'd try lubuntu-desktop first, since it's the lightest [01:56] i have "4 zombie processes" too. [01:56] And they are...? [01:57] how do i see them? [01:57] htop [01:57] ? [01:57] I think [ top ] alone will list them [02:01] i cant figure it out. but lubuntu is isntalled now [02:02] reboot? [02:02] Yeah [02:04] logged in. and no issue yet [02:05] Into Lubuntu? [02:05] except sluggish mouse. and yes lubuntu [02:05] 1024x76860hz [02:06] OK... was it just switching for the sake of switching, or don't you know? [02:06] i3luefire_: btw pop into #lubuntu [02:07] i dont know but. it happened as soon as i clicked the update manager notification [02:15] Hi, I am trying to compile MAME 0.148 (Vanilla Source) on Xubuntu 13.04 x64. The following link is the error I am getting. ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136033&p=12654035#post12654035 ) === NePtUnO is now known as NePtUnO|Off [03:19] hi could someone help me with my xubuntu question? [03:20] xubuntu987: just ask your question, dont ask to ask, someone whom may know the answer to it will respond as soon as possible. [03:21] ok.... see I've installed Xubuntu 12.04 LTS on my computer (there's no windows anymore) and I have no problems to use it. However when I've done the first 130 and something updates, I restart then as ask and I can't access anymore to Xubuntu [03:22] I had to reinstall it again [03:24] that's pretty odd. I would say try 13.04 to see if that helps any. Otherwise if you want to use 12.04 you might want to wait to see if anyone else has any idea. If no one responds in here, it also may help to post this on the Ubuntu forums. [03:25] the reason why i wanted to use the 12.04 was for the LTS version [03:25] xubuntu987: i would try the older kernel.. if you update, and it wont boot, or is broken, try with the older kernel [03:25] xubuntu987: at this stage, i would have no issues installing 13.04.. especially if my system didnt work with 12.04 for some reason [03:25] ok I'll try doing that tomorrow, it's way to late for that.... [03:26] will download the image and let's hope it was just with the 12.04 the problem [03:26] thanks anyway guys :D [03:26] You're welcome. [03:34] holstein: I wrote up above a problem i am having, with a link to the ubuntu forums, do you have an idea as to what i could try doing? [03:35] !info mame [03:35] mame (source: mame): Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator (MAME). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.146-5 (raring), package size 19567 kB, installed size 67324 kB [03:35] Magicantian: i would just use the one from the repos [03:36] yes, that package is out of date, which is why i am trying not to go backwards. [03:37] Could file a bug for it to be updated. [03:37] Magicantian: if its too out of date for you, then, you can look for a PPA version, otherwise its going to be up to whoever is supplying you the packages you are using to support it properly [03:37] Otherwise apt-get build-dep mame and that should at least get you started out with all you need to compile it. [03:38] in the forum post it states build-dep was attempted and still churned out said error. [03:39] Aha, I didn't look at that (and only barely processed your question.) [03:41] http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mame.html more up to date in debian exp. you can build a package off that. [03:44] I guess what I don't understand, is, I was able to compile this on 12.04, 12.10 of Lubuntu [03:48] (Trying out a build, see if it works.) [03:49] Cool, thanks Unit193. May I ask what Distro you are using? [03:49] Xubuntu. ;) [03:49] 13.04? [03:49] It's a 64bit chroot of precise, I have raring setup too though. [04:08] which gfx card vendor has the best drivers for linux. i may need a card for decompressing 1080p mkv videos on the fly [04:15] Magicantian: How long did it take for you to compile? Ad did you say that you haven't tried it on 64bit yet, then? [04:15] I am on x64, i am compiling it now and its still going. [04:15] i started compiling at 11:49 pm EST [04:18] the last time i compiled, which i think was yesterday, seemed to take around 40 min to an hr [04:18] it fails at the very end when it's linking the mame executable. [04:28] it just errored out. [04:28] confirming that build-dep does not resolve issue. [04:30] http://pastebin.com/wEZeD2Ci [04:33] I take it you've seen http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.games.devel/23471 ? === mnepton is now known as mneptok [04:34] I am not too familiar with this site nor the full depths of compilation. Everything in the past just went so straight forward. [04:34] Debian Bug #708716 [04:34] Debian bug 708716 in mame "mame: ftbfs with eglibc-2.17" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/708716 [04:36] I guess i'll wait till 0.149 rolls out. [04:36] Mine should fail too, unless I have the needed patch. [04:44] Worked. [04:44] hm [04:48] About how long until their next release? [04:49] could be a month or two till .149, just a rough guess as i've been following mame for a long time. [04:50] (Wondering if I should bother trying again with raring amd64. :P ) [04:51] well, if it compiled on precise, that kind of makes sense, cause it did work for me on Lubuntu 12.04 & 12.10 [04:51] I have not tried Lubuntu 13.04 [04:51] Xubuntu 13.04 only. [04:54] Same gcc, so... [04:58] I guess if it comes down to it and get desperate enough, ill just use 12.04 till LTS is up. [05:04] ya, think im gonna go do that real quick, revert to 12.04, thanks anyways [05:05] Hopefully not trying to "downgrade"? [05:07] I was hoping to not have to go back to an older version of xubuntu as i already have 13.04 installed. I have some issues with Lubuntu and I find that Xubuntu is suiting me at the moment so.. [05:41] Unit193: Magicantian here, got 12.04 on, compiling now =] [05:48] Aha, now I know the nick. [05:48] aww you remembered me <3 [05:51] bam. it worked. phew, now my brain will leave me alone about computer issues. === religion is now known as religion__ === religion__ is now known as religion [07:28] Hi, I have upgraded to 13.04 . I have installed newest sw update today and encfs stopped working. Has anyone the same problem? === luca___ is now known as Caesi [08:33] Hi All. I'm using the latest Xubuntu and am trying to access my sound settings but can't. Can anyone help? Many thanks. [08:33] what error are you getting? [08:35] TheSheep: I just can't access it when I click on it (under the sound symbol in the navigation menu) [08:35] TheSheep: Nothing happens. [08:37] sound settings, is it the volume controller in the panel you mean? [08:39] Caesi: see the errors in ~/.xsessionerrors [08:40] MrElg: Yes [08:40] TheSheep: OK, will do, thanks [08:43] TheSheep: it doesn't say anything about sound in there [08:50] Need to restart - will be back in 3 minutes [09:09] Hi. First of all - great job with xubuntu 13.04, looks very fancy and more fancier with faenza icons. My question is - how do I add a daemon to automatically start? I know there is /etc/rc.local, but I know there is command to disable/enable startup scripts [09:09] just can't recall it === luca____ is now known as Caesi [09:10] TheSheep: Do you know how I can change the audio output device from jack to USB speakers? [09:11] update-rc.d - we still use this, right? [09:18] Caesi: with padevchooser [09:18] (Removed from repos.) [09:20] * ObrienDave is away: Snoozin [09:59] TheSheep: thanks very much [10:08] has anybody tried making full backup with tar and succesfully booted it after restoring? (after reinstalling grub) [10:29] Sysi: with rsync, not tar, but should be the same, i think [10:46] just one q...on win7 i had music in the music folder now i can't see none of it? [10:49] what do you mean, dej_1? [12:26] Hi, i'm completely new to xubuntu/unix and i'm running it from a persistent live usb stick installation. Now i wonder how i can skip the installation window after boot which asks me everytime if i want to install xubuntu or use it in testmode. I want to go into testmode by default. [12:30] its going to ask you by default, its an installer you're trying, i just lets you install from within the os [12:30] if you wish to run os from your stick, you should rather install the os to the usb, and then run the installed os from there [12:33] Is there a quick way to do that without loosing my current setup with all the settings i made already? [12:34] Jay_, you could backup your /home, then install to the usb stick and copy /home back [12:37] I guess drivers are not included in /home dir so i have to reinstall them. Thanks for your help! [12:38] Jay_, no, they are not [12:38] drivers and the programs you have are not in home [12:38] Jay_, and no problem; enjoy [12:38] yes, just settings, but that helps most people a lot [12:38] installing apps and drivers is easy enough [12:38] sure, at least a lot easier than win [12:56] Hi! I have a quick question that someone here may be able to answere. I am trying to install MATLAB on my xubuntu machine. I'm using a thinkpad x1 carbon that has dual-boot windows and xubuntu. During activation matlab requires an "eth" device - however, my laptop doesn't have an ethernet card or connector. Is there any way I can mimic an eth device that MATLAB can use for activation? Thanks a lot. [12:57] xubuntu638, is it unable to use any other devices like wlan0 ? [12:58] Yes - it needs an eth device unfortunately [12:58] could i rename wlan0 into eth0 or something like that? [13:00] you might be able to set up a "fake" eth device that's piped to wlan0, but i have no idea how you'd do that [13:00] OK, I will try and look for a solution like that [13:01] good luck [13:03] hi there, i am completely new to linux and xubuntu. have some questions. first of all. i have 5 buttons mouse, xubuntu see it like 3 buttons mouse. How can i change it and remap 2 additional buttons? [13:03] xubuntu 13.04 [13:04] is there some kind of gui utilite or something? [13:08] or step to step how-to... [13:08] there should be a way, but i havent done it in xubuntu before [13:09] let me check [13:10] see if this helps you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto [13:12] hh [13:12] lets see.. [13:17] using xinput like this guide might be easier https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Logitech_Marblemouse_USB [13:24] I have a little problem installing xubuntu. anyone can help ? [13:25] !ask | Yanakin [13:25] Yanakin: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [13:26] -e-after installing xubuntu I reboot my computer and then i get an error message saying: error: no such device: 5f701740-e935-4d2a-8ceb-2a3d9a6d1adb grub rescue> what can I do to fix that ? [13:27] Yanakin, you installed from an usb? [13:27] xubuntu is on a dvd in my usb dvd drive [13:28] was there an usb pendrive in the machine? [13:28] while you installed? [13:28] no. all i have is a remote hard drive plugged in the usb port [13:28] thats the same [13:29] should i remove it while installing ? [13:29] its plugged now? [13:29] yes while im installing [13:29] boot from the livecd again and install boot-repair [13:30] use it to choose from wich drive you want to boot [13:30] try to see that it does NOT install grub on the external disk, unless ofcourse thats what you want [13:30] how do i install boot-repair ? [13:30] !boot-repair [13:30] great [13:31] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [13:31] all right! got it ! Ill do that right away. thank you very much my friend. [13:35] anyone able to help with a non booting xubuntu after upgrade [13:35] 12 - 13.04? [13:35] !details | tech1337 [13:35] tech1337: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [13:37] well.. that Sysi's tutorial is kinda hard for me.. http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Mice-and-Pointing-Devices/M570-and-Linux/m-p/557682/highlight/true#M31605 in this post it looks easier, but there is no such place "/etc/X11/xorg.conf " in xubuntu. is it "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" ? [13:37] I have a problem after upgrading xubuntu 12.10 to 13.04, boot hangs and stops at * Starting Bridge Socket Events into Upstart [13:38] no, Fedor_Mihalych , you have to generate a new xorg.conf, its not there by default [13:38] GridCube, how to do it? [13:39] !xorg.conf [13:39] The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax. [13:41] Fedor_Mihalych, 'Xorg :1 -configure' should create one [13:43] knome, after this command it says: Fatal server error: [13:43] Server is already active for display 0 [13:43] If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock [13:43] and start again. [13:45] should i remove that .X0-lock first? [13:46] Fedor_Mihalych, try replacing :1 with :0 [13:48] same: :~$ Xorg :0 -configure [13:48] Fatal server error: [13:48] Server is already active for display 0 [13:48] If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock [13:48] and start again. [13:49] try with sudo then [13:51] like this? sudo X -configure [13:51] yes [13:52] absolutely same result [13:53] you need to kill your session and do it from a tty [13:53] what is tty? [13:54] close you session, go to a tty, do sudo service lightdm stop and then sudo Xorg -configure then restart the lightdm service [13:54] a tty its one of the 6 termianls you can access by pressing ctrl-alt-F1 to F6 [13:54] in F7 there is the gui you are using now [13:54] you can cycle trhought them all now [13:55] to restart lightdm - sudo service lightdm start? [13:56] im pretty sure that is yes [14:08] it was said configuration failed in the end, but there was a short list of hardware before [14:08] I have Xubuntu LTS 12.04 running well with a couple of annoyances. In particular, when I attach a USB memory stick I can only access that as root. As a user when I cd to /media/memstick it says "permissions denied" [14:09] Fedor_Mihalych, if you just want to add the settings for the mouse you could try just making an empty xorg.conf file and add the settings [14:10] in etc/x11/ ? [14:10] then restart the x server and see, if the x server doesnt boot back you can go to a tty and do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old [14:10] yes [14:13] permisson denied [14:14] or what command to create it in console? [14:15] permission denied, did you start with sudo? [14:15] nope, i dont know how sudo use in this case [14:16] how to use [14:16] what are the command you're typing? [14:17] use sudo before it [14:17] i ve tried via file manger [14:17] Fedor_Mihalych: is your system not able to detect the extra buttons or are you just not able to map these buttons without a gui? [14:17] oh, file manager isn't in root, use terminal [14:18] Fedor_Mihalych: you can run "xev" in a terminal window and test your mouse buttons inside the window which pops out [14:20] brainwash, how to check it? in system settings it - logitech unyfying device with no settings for remapping, and that 2 additional buttons arent work at all [14:21] MrElg, what comand to create a file with sudo, is it just sudo /etc/x11/xorg.conf ? [14:24] sudo mousepad /etc/x11/xorg.conf [14:24] gksudo. [14:25] if you use the basic text editor shipped with xubuntu, Fedor_Mihalych [14:25] my eyes start to twitch whenever someone suggests using sudo with graphical apps [14:25] use gksudo or little kittens will cry [14:26] ;) [14:26] but.. some people like to live dangerously :D [14:26] !gksu [14:26] If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) [14:30] its X11 no x11 [14:31] !case [14:31] File names in Ubuntu are case sensitive, MyFile is not the same as myfile, and if you put spaces in there and use a console you need to "escape" the space, thus "gedit My\ File.txt" [14:31] yep, now it saved [14:32] Fedor_Mihalych, you used X11 right, no x11? [14:32] so will it be enough - Section "InputDevice" [14:32] Identifier "Mouse0" [14:32] Driver "mouse" [14:32] Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" [14:32] Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" [14:32] Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" [14:32] gah [14:32] Option "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3 6 7 10 11" [14:32] Option "Emulate3Buttons" "false" [14:32] EndSection ? [14:32] no [14:32] pastebin [14:32] !pastebin [14:32] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [14:33] and yes, that should do that [14:33] GridCube, yes, X11 [14:33] ok [14:33] it didnt allow to save file with x11 as i typed first ) [14:34] fool proof in action ) [14:34] in this case [14:37] to restart the x server is it enough just close session and enter again or it need reboot system? [14:37] just asking for the future.. [14:38] If logout to main login screen, ctrl-alt-f1 and login to command prompt then usually sudo restart lightdm === NePtUnO|Off is now known as NePtUnO [14:41] and last moment before restart. in this command ' sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old' mv means move? is it ok that there is no xorg.conf.old in X11? [14:42] should i create the empty one before restart? [14:43] it's to make a backup of the file you have [14:43] I'd probably use cp myself tho [14:44] what is cp? [14:44] copy [14:45] cp instead of mv in that command? didnt get [14:47] no [14:47] mv its the one, you want to remove it in case something fails [14:47] Fedor_Mihalych, [14:48] cp will leave it there and you wont be able to boot, mv its for renaming it to .old [14:48] so you will be able to boot [14:48] i see, thanks [14:49] Fedor_Mihalych, if it boots properly you dont need to do that [14:52] ok, seems that 2 buttons are working, first part is done [14:53] now how to remap em to midlle click and double click instead of back \ forward [15:16] hello [15:16] Hello [15:24] quick question. If I installed Lubuntu as an OS can I remove Lubuntu-desktop sicne I now use Xubuntu? [15:34] !purexubuntu | L30 [15:34] L30: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [15:34] hmm... [15:34] that page needs updating [15:35] Yes :( [15:40] so, what i should change here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5697353/ to double midlle click buton and double left click instead back and forward ? [15:53] Hello, I'm new to linux and wanted to install xubuntu on my old thinkpad machine. I copied the image 12.4 onto CD, and set my BIOS to boot from it. However, it keeps booting from windows. Anybody out there have any suggestions? [15:54] is there any boot boost or security boot on? they often has to be turned of [15:55] let me get back to bios and i'll let you know. [15:55] Also, did you just copy the ISO file to a CD/DV D or did you burn it as an image ? [15:59] my system has a "boot mode" function with options for "quick" which is "intended to boot the operating system as soon as possible by reducing the POST elapsed time" and "Diagnostics" which is used for problem determination, but I don't see any security or boost boot options [16:00] did you do like genii said? burn image files [16:00] or just as iso file [16:01] I downloaded the image, unzipped it and copied it to my CD write "prep" folder and hit copy [16:02] at boot screen, did you press esc or something to get to boot menu, or does nothing happen [16:02] i had two options when it wrote to the disk, one I think allowed me to use the disk as a USB drive type storage device [16:02] F1 it is [16:03] I might have to burn it the other way [16:03] I used f1 to get to the BIOS set up screen [16:03] oh, i dont know how you burned it, anyways, if you have an usb drive available, its just as easy to boot from that as from the disc, just use unetbootin [16:04] I think I still have to burn it as an image [16:04] thanks for the help guys [16:04] not the bios setup, the boot menu, try F12 [16:54] Hi this isn't a xubuntu question, but radiotray related [16:54] or for that matter any media player that has radio [16:55] Want to know how to get radio that is embedded in a website so i can add to my radio app [16:55] for instance: http://528records.com/radio how would I get the radio url? I've looked in 'source' but don't see it [16:55] livingdaylight: i would ask the maintainer of the web service.. maybe try one of the *-offtopic channels [17:04] The music is called by /files/radio-player/muses-config.swf in line 55 of the source code. Whatever options they are feeding it determine the source of the music. Eg: SWFObject("/files/radio-player/muses-config.swf", "sotester", "407", "26", "9", "#E5E5E5"); is using sotester, and whatever the variables of 407, 26, 9, and #E5E5E5 mean internally to the Muses flash player [17:08] thx, genii-around [17:08] i found an add on for FF which should give me the embedded url of streams. just testing it now [17:08] DownloadHelper firefox extension shows the url for the default radio station here as 528records.com:8000/main_station_free?1369414634082.mp3 but of course since it's streaming, putting the url in the bar just times out since it tries to download it instead of just playing it as it arrives [17:10] and mplaying it? [17:11] UnPlug addon not working for me on this particular url [17:12] 528records.com:8000/main_station_free?1369414634082.mp3 doesn't work when I insert it into radiotray [17:13] Yes, as I explained, it wants to download it first and then play it. But it will hang because it can never finish downloading since it's continuously streaming [17:29] genii-around, ok, i thought you were experience was in reference to that particular extension (Downloadhelper) and might otherwise work if I put the url in a radioapp like radiotray [17:51] http://528records.com:8000/main_station_free now works... the ?1369...mp3 was superfluous [17:54] Interesting [17:56] hello [19:08] hi koegs [19:08] suppose i have partially downlaoded dependencies for a software (not installed any) and i want to cleanup is there a way ? [19:09] e.g. if i run sudo apt-get install xxx and then i press ctrl+c in terminal because i decided i don't want it ? [19:10] aiena, sudo apt-get clean [19:10] thanks a lot :) [19:10] so that will clean paritally doenloaded files too [19:10] knome: [19:10] yes. [19:11] great [19:17] knome: will the libreoffice package 4.0 package directly from the site work on xubuntu 12.04 LTS ? [19:17] *libreoffice 4.0 package [19:17] there is a ppa for 4.x [19:17] hmm [19:17] but that ppa is alpha ans betas [19:17] nope [19:17] I am taking about the 4.0 release [19:18] hmm [19:18] koegs which one ? [19:18] * aiena is very interested [19:18] Anything outside of the main repos isn't officially supported, so YMMV. [19:18] Unit193: I know most ppa's arent anyways [19:18] https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-4-0 [19:21] koegs thats not in typical ppa format [19:21] do you add it as ppa:https://.... [19:21] sudo apt-add-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa [19:22] is this maintained by libreoffice themselves ? [19:22] hmm seems so :) [19:27] Hello all, I seem to have a problem with apt-get upgrade [19:27] hi [19:28] i have a low resources pc, pentium 300 Mhz, 128MB RAM and would like to install xubuntu on it, will it work? barely? [19:28] User123: A more specific description of the problem will help us to help you [19:28] breakaly? XD [19:29] User123: What is the problem ? [19:29] I can't sell it, y can't trash it (don't like trashing) i need to make some kind of use of it [19:29] so i messed up somewhere and now whenever i try to sudo anything i get that im not in the sudo list any ideas? [19:29] Processing was halted because therE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [19:30] Juanqui13: yes it will the basic ubuntu [19:30] *xubunut [19:30] Juanqui13: but you should use lubuntu [19:30] better for that pc me thinks [19:30] I get that error when trying "sudo apt-get upgrade" [19:30] User123, do you have another package manager running? [19:31] right... can't thank you enough :) bye bye [19:31] User123: try http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-985232.html [19:32] aiena: I have already tried everything in that thread. Thank you for the link, though [19:32] knome: I don't believe so. I am new to linux, however. How could I be sure I do not have another package manager running? [19:32] is synaptics open ? [19:33] No, it's not [19:33] knome: but then a different error would have shown if a package manager was open [19:33] not that [19:33] right [19:34] Should I pastebin the output and you could take a look? [19:34] knome: the error would be " Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" right [19:35] http://pastebin.com/460b8MJJ [19:35] User123: one way to fix such a bug would be to backup and reinstall xubuntu but that is last resort if everything esle does not work. [19:35] Yes, I have considered reinstalling but I've not yet gotten that desperate [19:35] i mean backup all data + make a list of installed software and ppa's and configs are overwrite whatever is messed up. [19:36] i just cleaned up my xubuntu partition because i had a lot of junk and messed up configs eating up space. [19:37] how do i readd my name to the sudoers list? [19:37] I was just going to completely reinstall Xubuntu. If I do indeed have to reinstall, I'll not worry about backing up the little data I have [19:41] Any advice? :/ [19:41] hmm go for a reinstall [19:41] I think that if you leave it like this more things will break over time [19:42] Is there any way to fix the current issue? Should fix everything else, right? [19:42] the worst thing is that it is difficult to know the cause only the symptoms are visible [19:42] Unit193: I don't know - as knome [19:42] *ask [19:42] myshit [19:43] sorry didnt mean to put that there [19:43]