| daftykins | the cat command? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| leolol | ok | 00:00 |
| leolol | no | 00:00 |
| leolol | the dhclient | 00:00 |
| daftykins | oh, did ctrl+c not get you back? | 00:00 |
| leolol | it did | 00:01 |
| leolol | but i tried it again | 00:01 |
| daftykins | ah ok | 00:01 |
| daftykins | yeah i don't think that one will help | 00:01 |
| leolol | it tells me: No such file or directory | 00:02 |
| daftykins | is it typed ok? | 00:02 |
| daftykins | cat /etc/network/interfaces | 00:02 |
| leolol | i'm checking | 00:02 |
| leolol | oh there's a space i missed | 00:02 |
| daftykins | by the way, saving these commands in a notepad file on your windows PC is a great way to make a 'cheat sheet' to learn from :) | 00:03 |
| leolol | yeah it has info in there | 00:03 |
| leolol | adress is wrong | 00:03 |
| daftykins | does it have many lines after 'auto eth0' ? | 00:03 |
| daftykins | ok :) | 00:03 |
| leolol | network too.. it's all my internet IP | 00:03 |
| leolol | gateway too | 00:03 |
| daftykins | cool | 00:03 |
| daftykins | so, what we want to do is edit those values to ones that will work | 00:03 |
| leolol | broadcast is also, just the last 3 digits are different (255 instead of 100) | 00:03 |
| daftykins | ok so you're going to use your first CLI text editor :O | 00:04 |
| leolol | good or bad? :P | 00:04 |
| daftykins | type 'sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces' | 00:04 |
| daftykins | good, exciting! :D | 00:04 |
| leolol | let me get something to drink :P | 00:04 |
| daftykins | i'm on beer #2 | 00:04 |
| daftykins | i recommend this | 00:04 |
| daftykins | :> | 00:04 |
| leolol | i'm on loud music and water :P | 00:06 |
| leolol | you helped me more then ubuntuforums in 4 days lol | 00:06 |
| daftykins | XD | 00:06 |
| leolol | lets do this :D | 00:07 |
| daftykins | happy to help the first steps \o/ | 00:07 |
| daftykins | i'm not all that experienced but i know the basics of CLI | 00:07 |
| leolol | like a toddler | 00:07 |
| leolol | :P | 00:07 |
| daftykins | ja baby steps ^_^ | 00:07 |
| leolol | if i can do anything for you (i'm a graphic designer) just email me at felix.wenzl[at] gmail[dot]com | 00:08 |
| daftykins | oooo | 00:09 |
| daftykins | do you make logos for companies at all? | 00:09 |
| leolol | and btw those 1u rack servers are damn loud. lol | 00:09 |
| daftykins | haha yeah they are | 00:09 |
| leolol | i make a good amount of corporate identity yeah | 00:09 |
| daftykins | sweet :) thanks | 00:09 |
| leolol | help for help :) | 00:10 |
| leolol | so let's continue :D | 00:10 |
| daftykins | wow i added you in my gmail and it auto grabbed a Google+ pic | 00:11 |
| daftykins | ok, so now you should be inside 'nano' the text editor | 00:11 |
| daftykins | and looking at the contents of that configuration file | 00:11 |
| daftykins | you can use your cursor keys to move around to the lines that are wrong | 00:11 |
| penguin42 | leolol: 1u servers aren't as loud as either 1) a rack full of 1u servers or 2) 4u servers | 00:12 |
| leolol | yeah google+ lol | 00:12 |
| daftykins | so, i'm guessing you should have 'address' 'netmask' and 'gateway' | 00:12 |
| leolol | how do i get into nano?? | 00:12 |
| leolol | yeah i see those | 00:12 |
| daftykins | type 'sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces' | 00:12 |
| daftykins | you want 'gateway' to be 192.168.0.1, netmask to be '255.255.255.0' | 00:12 |
| daftykins | and 'address' you kind of get to pick - i'd recommend '192.168.0.100' | 00:13 |
| daftykins | nice and memorable | 00:13 |
| daftykins | hopefully nothing is already using that address on the network... | 00:13 |
| leolol | nope can't do that.. it just gets me to my last used command | 00:13 |
| leolol | tried that | 00:14 |
| leolol | but ut always opens a new command line beginning | 00:14 |
| daftykins | the sudo nano line? | 00:14 |
| leolol | *it | 00:14 |
| leolol | i type that cat /... etc. and i get the result, but i always makes a new line with felix@server | 00:15 |
| leolol | so i can't choose the things that i just got | 00:15 |
| daftykins | yeah 'cat' just spits out the contents of the file | 00:15 |
| leolol | ok | 00:15 |
| daftykins | sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces | 00:15 |
| leolol | so i gotta access it | 00:15 |
| daftykins | ^ that opens the file with nano | 00:15 |
| leolol | ah ok | 00:15 |
| leolol | facepalm #3 | 00:15 |
| daftykins | it also uses 'sudo' because we need to have the Linux equivalent of 'administrator' rights to edit this file :) | 00:16 |
| leolol | ok | 00:16 |
| leolol | so i start editing it | 00:16 |
| daftykins | yep | 00:17 |
| daftykins | you want 'gateway' to be 192.168.0.1, netmask to be '255.255.255.0', address to be '192.168.0.100' | 00:17 |
| leolol | now i need network, adress and broadcast | 00:18 |
| daftykins | those actually won't be necessary | 00:18 |
| diddledan_ | network and broadcast can be deleted or set to .0 and .255 respectively | 00:18 |
| daftykins | well, address was | 00:18 |
| daftykins | i'd put a # symbol in front of the network and broadcast | 00:18 |
| leolol | yeah got adress | 00:18 |
| leolol | ok | 00:19 |
| leolol | both to .0? | 00:19 |
| daftykins | one sec i'll pastebin an example just so we're 100% ok | 00:19 |
| daftykins | http://pastebin.com/Fg3sQd1Z | 00:20 |
| daftykins | there you go i sort of just copied mine and edited it as an example to how yours should look | 00:20 |
| daftykins | it shouldn't matter what order the lines are in | 00:20 |
| leolol | x.x.x. or just .0? | 00:21 |
| daftykins | with the # at the start of the lines, we're telling it 'ignore this line' so it doesn't matter :) | 00:21 |
| daftykins | you could put 'broadcast BEER' and it won't care :D | 00:21 |
| * daftykins broadcasts beer to diddledan_ | 00:22 | |
| leolol | ah ok thought so | 00:22 |
| diddledan_ | \o/ | 00:22 |
| leolol | wht kinda beer btw? :D | 00:22 |
| leolol | *what | 00:22 |
| daftykins | i'm just drinking some horrible stuff a friend left at my house | 00:23 |
| daftykins | Fosters :( | 00:23 |
| daftykins | normally i like ales | 00:23 |
| diddledan_ | "good call" "huru" | 00:23 |
| diddledan_ | I asked an aussie friend whether she knew the term huru and she'd never heard of it | 00:23 |
| leolol | ales are the brigher colored ones? | 00:23 |
| daftykins | i like dark ales 8) | 00:24 |
| leolol | not familiar with the english terms for beer | 00:24 |
| daftykins | schwarz ale 8D | 00:24 |
| leolol | ok | 00:24 |
| daftykins | leolol: so once you're happy, press ctrl + X to save | 00:24 |
| leolol | like a dark ale is a bit strnger then a regular beer? (not talking about those light light light american beers) | 00:24 |
| daftykins | yeah strong with a specific taste | 00:25 |
| leolol | what should i change the dns nameserver too? | 00:25 |
| daftykins | oh it's got more | 00:25 |
| daftykins | 192.168.0.1 as well | 00:25 |
| leolol | yeah we got awesome beer in austria :) | 00:25 |
| daftykins | interesting... | 00:26 |
| daftykins | do you have any local ale events? | 00:26 |
| leolol | i think isaved it | 00:26 |
| leolol | mhmm in vienna for sure | 00:27 |
| leolol | but also in the countryside | 00:27 |
| daftykins | yeah it should have asked you Y/N/cancel | 00:27 |
| daftykins | so Y for yes of course | 00:27 |
| daftykins | then it asks to confirm the file name | 00:27 |
| leolol | a restaurant i go topretty often when i'm visiting family | 00:27 |
| leolol | has like 40 beers | 00:27 |
| leolol | i confirmed | 00:27 |
| daftykins | "File Name to Write: interfaces" | 00:27 |
| daftykins | then you just hit enter | 00:27 |
| daftykins | then you're out and back at the prompt yep? | 00:28 |
| daftykins | 40 beers :O sounds great | 00:28 |
| leolol | yiha | 00:28 |
| daftykins | i love trying new ales | 00:28 |
| leolol | out of that notepad thingy too | 00:28 |
| daftykins | cool | 00:28 |
| daftykins | so now we want to tell it to reconfigure the network interface with those new values | 00:28 |
| leolol | from dark, to bright everything :D | 00:28 |
| leolol | one's called "deer beer" :P | 00:28 |
| daftykins | 'sudo service networking restart' should do it | 00:29 |
| leolol | ok | 00:29 |
| daftykins | hehehe | 00:29 |
| leolol | so what command? :) | 00:29 |
| leolol | ok | 00:29 |
| leolol | it isn't scrolling automatically here.. | 00:29 |
| daftykins | i think it's 'networking', might be 'network' | 00:29 |
| daftykins | did it go off the bottom of the screen? | 00:29 |
| leolol | one says unknown instance (netowkring) | 00:31 |
| leolol | and the other one says unrcognized service | 00:31 |
| daftykins | hrmmph | 00:31 |
| leolol | the website? | 00:31 |
| leolol | yeah it's not auto scrlooing | 00:31 |
| leolol | scrolling | 00:32 |
| daftykins | so when you type new commands is it just becoming unreadable? | 00:32 |
| daftykins | i'm not sure i understand what's happening | 00:32 |
| leolol | no | 00:32 |
| leolol | i can read it | 00:32 |
| daftykins | ok instead of above, try 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' | 00:33 |
| leolol | talking about the website here not ubuntu | 00:33 |
| leolol | :) | 00:33 |
| daftykins | oh ok | 00:33 |
| leolol | it is reconfiguring the interfaces | 00:34 |
| daftykins | sweet | 00:34 |
| daftykins | ping 192.168.0.1 should work now :O | 00:34 |
| leolol | ok | 00:34 |
| leolol | it says | 00:34 |
| leolol | running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces | 00:35 |
| leolol | dono if that's normal | 00:35 |
| leolol | ^^ | 00:35 |
| daftykins | yeah, that's ok, it's basically saying 'daftykins doesn't know the real command, he's a BAD person' | 00:35 |
| leolol | ok i try that | 00:35 |
| leolol | nope | 00:36 |
| leolol | it had something with 192.168.0.1 but now it is on .100 and says unreachable | 00:36 |
| daftykins | do you have a smartphone / camera you can take pictures of the screen with and upload to imgur.com or some similar site? | 00:37 |
| leolol | noep nothing | 00:37 |
| leolol | sure | 00:37 |
| daftykins | if you type 'ifconfig -a' | 00:37 |
| daftykins | then take a picture please | 00:37 |
| leolol | you got skype? | 00:37 |
| daftykins | yep | 00:38 |
| leolol | i could point a webcam at what i do | 00:38 |
| daftykins | sounds good \o/ | 00:38 |
| daftykins | <-- username | 00:38 |
| leolol | added | 00:38 |
| daftykins | he wasn't joking | 00:50 |
| daftykins | it's loud ^_^ | 00:50 |
| daftykins | http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-035-OC | 03:35 |
| daftykins | 100GB 'SATA 2' SSD for £49.99 inc | 03:35 |
| ali1234 | nice | 03:35 |
| ali1234 | you can get 1TB HDD for same price now too | 03:36 |
| ali1234 | seems the prices are finally starting to drop again | 03:36 |
| ball | ...and there's me juggling files to free up space on a 20G PATA drive. | 03:37 |
| ali1234 | haha | 03:37 |
| daftykins | oh hey ball. long time no see | 03:37 |
| daftykins | you were penguin42's partner in crime for running ancient hardware right? :D | 03:38 |
| ali1234 | i spent the last two days juggling files across about 3TB of total space so i could image a 500GB drive for recovery | 03:38 |
| ball | Probably :-) | 03:38 |
| ali1234 | and then it turned out to be the wrong drive anyway | 03:38 |
| daftykins | you know, HD films make saturated gigabit LAN feel slow :( | 03:38 |
| === feisar is now known as Guest63193 | ||
| MooDoo | morning all | 08:09 |
| bigmonkey | irc.UK-IRC.net | 08:37 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 09:21 |
| MooDoo | morning | 09:27 |
| brobostigon | morning MooDoo | 09:28 |
| knightwise | hey brobostigon | 09:43 |
| brobostigon | morning knightwise | 09:43 |
| === dogmatic69_ is now known as dogmatic69 | ||
| first-time-here | hi | 12:27 |
| first-time-here | i cant do "cat /dev/video0" i get "cat: /dev/video0: Invalid argument" | 12:27 |
| penguin42 | I'm not sure what the mechanisms for reading video are - not all devices have to respond to normal read/writes | 12:31 |
| penguin42 | first-time-here: The package 'motion' is a way that has worked for me for recording video easily before | 12:33 |
| first-time-here | penguin42: i want to make stream of my webcam | 12:34 |
| AndreAM | hello! it's me again. is there anyone who would know how to fix this please: http://askubuntu.com/questions/299789/experiencing-problems-while-trying-to-upgrade-to-pangolin | 12:34 |
| AlanBell | hi AndreAM I would definitely go for a reinstall, without overwriting the home directory - and backup first | 12:39 |
| penguin42 | first-time-here: Yeh, I used motion to do that | 12:39 |
| penguin42 | first-time-here: Also try guvcview | 12:40 |
| AlanBell | or vlc, you can stream a webcam with vlc | 12:41 |
| MartijnVdS | you can stream anything with vlc :) | 14:22 |
| MartijnVdS | is it june yet? | 14:31 |
| SuperEngineer | boo! | 15:31 |
| daftykins | waaa D: | 15:35 |
| MartijnVdS | eeee! | 15:43 |
| daftykins | ^_^ | 15:46 |
| SuperEngineer | so cool to have a 3 day break instead of working [what seems like] most weekends as as weekdays :) | 15:48 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: I've had 2 weeks (+ 2 days) off, have to work again on Monday :| | 15:49 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:49 |
| SuperEngineer | MartijnVdS: Monday? tell them it's a bank hol in UK and to be politically coorect you need to observe it! | 15:50 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: nah we had one last Monday.. and the thursday the week before that | 15:50 |
| SuperEngineer | lucky whatits# | 15:50 |
| SuperEngineer | *whatsits | 15:51 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: blame it on the Catholics ;) | 15:51 |
| SuperEngineer | :) | 15:51 |
| MartijnVdS | ascension day and "the day after pentecost" | 15:51 |
| SuperEngineer | "the day after pentecost"??? | 15:52 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: yeah we extend easter and pentecost by one day, so you get the Monday off work | 15:52 |
| MartijnVdS | it's our version of your bank holidays really | 15:52 |
| SuperEngineer | typical - to laid back to do it on the day ;) | 15:52 |
| MartijnVdS | but more catholic | 15:52 |
| daftykins | guys, i was asked to help out with this person doing an EFI install of ubuntu 13.04 | 15:54 |
| daftykins | apparently 12.04 worked fine in the past | 15:54 |
| daftykins | i noticed from repeated questioning and experimentation that, in their two drive setup, the intended boot drive (an SSD) is attached to a Marvell 6Gb SATA controller, whilst the 3TB storage drive is attached to the 3Gb SATA ports provided by the intel chipset | 15:55 |
| daftykins | warning bells go off for me for mixing SATA controller, i'd rather have had the SSD on the intel provided 6Gb SATA not the external Marvell controller | 15:56 |
| MartijnVdS | that might be the problem.. shouldn't be, but might be | 15:56 |
| daftykins | any thoughts? | 15:56 |
| MartijnVdS | I'd put it on the intel and try again | 15:56 |
| daftykins | apparently 13.04 installs, but at boot time GRUB says something like 'no such partition' | 15:56 |
| daftykins | yeah - i was having a hard time convincing this person to feel up to touching the hardware ;x | 15:57 |
| daftykins | based on the very acceptable view that 'it worked with 12.04' | 15:57 |
| MartijnVdS | well yes | 15:57 |
| daftykins | although of course kernel support for the different controllers could be what's going wrong | 15:57 |
| MartijnVdS | maybe the system is confused (or the EFI partition is confused?) | 15:57 |
| daftykins | yeah, there is a total GPT/MBR headache going on too | 15:58 |
| daftykins | i want the 3TB disk to be disconnected completely for the install | 15:58 |
| daftykins | so that the SSD is there on its' own | 15:58 |
| daftykins | because throughout the whole thing (i'm like the 4th person getting involved or something) the SSD has been sdb | 15:58 |
| daftykins | i tend to be pretty perfectionist about all OS installs, you'd never get me allowing my OS drive to be anything other than the primary | 15:59 |
| MartijnVdS | it should not be a problem | 16:03 |
| MartijnVdS | as long as the 3TB disk doesn't have an EFI partition (and the SSD does) | 16:04 |
| daftykins | apparently the 3TB is GPT'd also - it has evidence of having had Windows on it before | 16:04 |
| daftykins | and the 3 partition setup | 16:04 |
| MartijnVdS | 3TB has to be GPT, I think? because MBR only supports up to 2TB? | 16:07 |
| daftykins | yep | 16:07 |
| MartijnVdS | but GPT isn't the issue, the EFI boot partition is | 16:07 |
| daftykins | i'd rather run the install with just the SSD connected just to rule it out personally | 16:07 |
| MartijnVdS | if both disks have EFI partitions, one with "old" 12.04 grub, one with "new" 13.04 grub, it'll probably confuse itself | 16:07 |
| daftykins | yeah that's the other thing, we don't 100% know the 'state' of each disk | 16:08 |
| MartijnVdS | Time to break out the backup disks and wipe before reinstalling ;) | 16:08 |
| daftykins | the Asus motherboard's boot options refer to the Windows Loader being present, so there might be remnants of a Windows 7/8 install on the 3TB i think | 16:08 |
| daftykins | hehe, yeah apparently the SSD is easily nuked | 16:08 |
| daftykins | so that should make some of it easy | 16:08 |
| daftykins | i was almost tempted, in googling about, to ask them to run this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ | 16:09 |
| MartijnVdS | good idea | 16:09 |
| SuperEngineer | whoopee! just found why the last few kernel updates have done the headers but not the kernel! | 16:10 |
| daftykins | :o? | 16:10 |
| SuperEngineer | the generic package is no longer installed [probably removed during an over zealous clear up long time ago] | 16:10 |
| daftykins | hehe oops | 16:10 |
| SuperEngineer | but which should I reinstall? | 16:10 |
| daftykins | so you were getting the latest version header package but staying on the oldest kernel you had on? | 16:10 |
| SuperEngineer | linux-generic? | 16:11 |
| SuperEngineer | linux image-generic? | 16:11 |
| daftykins | may as well | 16:11 |
| MartijnVdS | linux-generic = ok | 16:11 |
| daftykins | unless any more specific flavour benefits you | 16:11 |
| SuperEngineer | MartijnVdS: thanks | 16:11 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: (hint: probably not ;)) | 16:11 |
| daftykins | :D | 16:12 |
| SuperEngineer | daftykins: only if there is a "banana" or "coffee" flavour ;) | 16:12 |
| daftykins | mmm coffee | 16:12 |
| daftykins | i just had a late lunch from Costa | 16:12 |
| daftykins | the carrot cake is still sat on my desk... | 16:12 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: speaking of coffee: http://www.vandestreek-bier.nl/bieren/ | 16:12 |
| daftykins | the caramel latte was great as always \o/ | 16:12 |
| daftykins | this is the trouble with living right on the high street of the islands capital | 16:13 |
| daftykins | the Costa and 3 other cofffe shops are all within 50m of my front door | 16:13 |
| daftykins | :> | 16:13 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: My brothers made those beers, one has coffee in it (they used 8l on a 300l tank) | 16:13 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: which island is that? or are you rich? ;) | 16:13 |
| daftykins | lol no not rich | 16:14 |
| daftykins | Guernsey | 16:14 |
| daftykins | we're in the news a lot for Cameron being angry at tax havens | 16:14 |
| MartijnVdS | Also, I wonder what "the high street" of London would be | 16:14 |
| daftykins | :D | 16:14 |
| MartijnVdS | it seems to have several | 16:14 |
| daftykins | ours is a road literally called 'High Street' XD | 16:14 |
| daftykins | http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=49.456106,-2.536581&spn=0.0034,0.003932&t=m&z=18 | 16:15 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 16:15 |
| SuperEngineer | MartijnVdS: hmm your brothers and I have something in common | 16:16 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: lots of noms de rues françaises | 16:16 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: coffee and beer? | 16:16 |
| daftykins | indeed, 'tis a very French influenced place :) | 16:16 |
| daftykins | hearing English / tourists pronounce place names is hilarious | 16:17 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: it's probably like my GPS | 16:17 |
| * SuperEngineer used to be a [rather good] brewer | 16:17 | |
| daftykins | MartijnVdS: hehehe | 16:17 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: when I was driving to Cornwall, its Dutch voice was pronouncing all the names | 16:17 |
| daftykins | lmao | 16:17 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: and that makes lots of place names come out French-ish | 16:17 |
| MartijnVdS | (places ending in "-mouth" come to mind) | 16:19 |
| daftykins | XD | 16:19 |
| daftykins | hrmm | 16:19 |
| daftykins | i was over at my parents last night, doing stuff on their ancient Athlon XP + nforce2 setup i put together years ago from spares | 16:20 |
| daftykins | the hard disk is streaming hardware ECC errors in its' SMART info | 16:20 |
| daftykins | i changed the PATA ribbon cable first naturally, but it kept going - probably going to die catastrophically some day isn't it? :D | 16:20 |
| MartijnVdS | eeeek | 16:20 |
| MartijnVdS | Once SMART starts to cry, you run to the store | 16:20 |
| daftykins | *nod* | 16:21 |
| daftykins | too true | 16:21 |
| daftykins | although PATA - won't be buying anything fresh of that :D | 16:21 |
| daftykins | sadly it's one of the two Abit NF7 boards that doesn't have the Silicon Image 3112a based SATA ports :< | 16:21 |
| MartijnVdS | but.. they've been saving money for a new computer.. right? :) | 16:21 |
| daftykins | hahaha | 16:21 |
| * SuperEngineer loves the phrase "donker bier" [even if he does know the tanslation - it sounds good ;) | 16:21 | |
| daftykins | blowing it on constant home 'improvements' =/ | 16:21 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: "donker" = dark | 16:22 |
| daftykins | crazy old girl is after replacing the entire kitchen again | 16:22 |
| daftykins | there's nothing wrong with it >_< | 16:22 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: They've just "gone pro" after a crowd-funding run among friends and family, these are their first 2 beers (after brewing almost 50 one-off homebrews) | 16:23 |
| SuperEngineer | MartijnVdS: I wish the the very best of luck | 16:24 |
| SuperEngineer | all free samples this way please - purely for quality control of course ;) | 16:26 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: they'll be in the UK in August I think | 16:26 |
| SuperEngineer | MartijnVdS: cool | 16:28 |
| * SuperEngineer looks forward to free samples ;() | 16:28 | |
| SuperEngineer | back in 90 minutes - f1 qualifying replay time :-) | 16:35 |
| daftykins | MartijnVdS: have you got any experience with uEFI Ubuntu installs at all? i'm wondering if you can tell / choose whether you boot 13.04 in legacy mode | 16:36 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: I did one once.. but it was a clean install on a clean system | 16:42 |
| daftykins | i wonder if i can EFI install in a VM | 16:45 |
| daftykins | probably not | 16:45 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/OVMF | 16:45 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: + http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/52996/how-to-boot-efi-kernel-using-qemu-kvm | 16:46 |
| daftykins | ah i don't run Linux on the desktop | 16:46 |
| MartijnVdS | VMWare can do EFI guestsd | 16:47 |
| MartijnVdS | vbox seems to be able to do efi guests as well | 16:47 |
| daftykins | hmmz | 16:47 |
| daftykins | time to download 13.04 for fun | 16:51 |
| daftykins | wow 13.04 still has the same ugly boot logo and menu on the liveCD | 17:02 |
| daftykins | < Parsi> sudo dd if=/usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin of=/dev/sda6 | 17:05 |
| daftykins | got some guy that ran that on his windows partition :X | 17:06 |
| daftykins | hmm, indeed there appears to be no information regarding what *form* of partition table ubuntu creates during install | 17:41 |
| daftykins | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 18:06 |
| daftykins | ok this has been pretty handy to learn a bit more | 18:06 |
| popey | ¡ola! | 18:10 |
| daftykins | hi popey | 18:10 |
| daftykins | oops nearly called you pipey | 18:10 |
| Laney | put that in your pope and smoke it | 19:17 |
| daftykins | Laney: :D | 19:28 |
| daftykins | pub time | 19:28 |
| mungbean | trying to sort out my ISAs ...what a pain | 19:57 |
| Laney | not looking forward to having to transfer mine later this year | 19:58 |
| Laney | stupid bonus periods | 19:58 |
| mungbean | modern life is stressful | 19:59 |
| mungbean | 1 day per year to sort out ISA | 19:59 |
| mungbean | another to sort out home insurance | 19:59 |
| mungbean | then car insurance, etc, etc | 19:59 |
| mungbean | because everything is designed to rip you off | 20:00 |
| mungbean | not to mention phone line/broadband | 20:00 |
| mungbean | nationwide isa.interest rate 2.25% until sep 2014..then 0.5% | 20:02 |
| penguin42 | mungbean: THey normally get a bit more desperate at the end of the tax year | 20:04 |
| mungbean | this is cool flight sim vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hipWoINtJX0 | 20:09 |
| ball | Is there software for Ubuntu or Xubuntu that can write music files to an Apple iPod Nano (in a form that it can play)? | 20:35 |
| MartijnVdS | rhythmbox? | 20:36 |
| MartijnVdS | just drag the file to the device? | 20:36 |
| MartijnVdS | maybe banshee? | 20:36 |
| ball | Oh. I thought the iPod needed some sort of database "thing" made on it before it would play the files. | 20:37 |
| MartijnVdS | it does | 20:37 |
| MartijnVdS | and banshee knows how to handle that | 20:38 |
| MartijnVdS | and rhythmbox | 20:38 |
| ball | Oh. | 20:38 |
| MartijnVdS | if it's not the newest possible version | 20:38 |
| ball | I'll see if I can install one of those on her PC then. | 20:38 |
| MartijnVdS | sometimes the very latest versions don't work | 20:38 |
| MartijnVdS | because Apple wants you to use Apple hard/software ONLY | 20:38 |
| * ball nods | 20:39 | |
| ball | vendor lock-in. | 20:39 |
| ball | If I were buying her a music player, it wouldn't be an iPod. Her mum has an old one though. | 20:40 |
| ball | iPod Nano 4th gen. I think. | 20:40 |
| MartijnVdS | old ones tend to be fine (because they've been reverse-engineered) | 20:40 |
| ball | Too new for Rockbox but hopefully old enough for Rhythmbox | 20:40 |
| bigcalm | Good evening peeps :) | 21:33 |
| * ball waves | 21:40 | |
| * penguin42 yawns | 22:29 | |
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