[00:00] the cat command? [00:00] ok [00:00] no [00:00] the dhclient [00:00] oh, did ctrl+c not get you back? [00:01] it did [00:01] but i tried it again [00:01] ah ok [00:01] yeah i don't think that one will help [00:02] it tells me: No such file or directory [00:02] is it typed ok? [00:02] cat /etc/network/interfaces [00:02] i'm checking [00:02] oh there's a space i missed [00:03] by the way, saving these commands in a notepad file on your windows PC is a great way to make a 'cheat sheet' to learn from :) [00:03] yeah it has info in there [00:03] adress is wrong [00:03] does it have many lines after 'auto eth0' ? [00:03] ok :) [00:03] network too.. it's all my internet IP [00:03] gateway too [00:03] cool [00:03] so, what we want to do is edit those values to ones that will work [00:03] broadcast is also, just the last 3 digits are different (255 instead of 100) [00:04] ok so you're going to use your first CLI text editor :O [00:04] good or bad? :P [00:04] type 'sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces' [00:04] good, exciting! :D [00:04] let me get something to drink :P [00:04] i'm on beer #2 [00:04] i recommend this [00:04] :> [00:06] i'm on loud music and water :P [00:06] you helped me more then ubuntuforums in 4 days lol [00:06] XD [00:07] lets do this :D [00:07] happy to help the first steps \o/ [00:07] i'm not all that experienced but i know the basics of CLI [00:07] like a toddler [00:07] :P [00:07] ja baby steps ^_^ [00:08] if i can do anything for you (i'm a graphic designer) just email me at felix.wenzl[at] gmail[dot]com [00:09] oooo [00:09] do you make logos for companies at all? [00:09] and btw those 1u rack servers are damn loud. lol [00:09] haha yeah they are [00:09] i make a good amount of corporate identity yeah [00:09] sweet :) thanks [00:10] help for help :) [00:10] so let's continue :D [00:11] wow i added you in my gmail and it auto grabbed a Google+ pic [00:11] ok, so now you should be inside 'nano' the text editor [00:11] and looking at the contents of that configuration file [00:11] you can use your cursor keys to move around to the lines that are wrong [00:12] leolol: 1u servers aren't as loud as either 1) a rack full of 1u servers or 2) 4u servers [00:12] yeah google+ lol [00:12] so, i'm guessing you should have 'address' 'netmask' and 'gateway' [00:12] how do i get into nano?? [00:12] yeah i see those [00:12] type 'sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces' [00:12] you want 'gateway' to be 192.168.0.1, netmask to be '255.255.255.0' [00:13] and 'address' you kind of get to pick - i'd recommend '192.168.0.100' [00:13] nice and memorable [00:13] hopefully nothing is already using that address on the network... [00:13] nope can't do that.. it just gets me to my last used command [00:14] tried that [00:14] but ut always opens a new command line beginning [00:14] the sudo nano line? [00:14] *it [00:15] i type that cat /... etc. and i get the result, but i always makes a new line with felix@server [00:15] so i can't choose the things that i just got [00:15] yeah 'cat' just spits out the contents of the file [00:15] ok [00:15] sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces [00:15] so i gotta access it [00:15] ^ that opens the file with nano [00:15] ah ok [00:15] facepalm #3 [00:16] it also uses 'sudo' because we need to have the Linux equivalent of 'administrator' rights to edit this file :) [00:16] ok [00:16] so i start editing it [00:17] yep [00:17] you want 'gateway' to be 192.168.0.1, netmask to be '255.255.255.0', address to be '192.168.0.100' [00:18] now i need network, adress and broadcast [00:18] those actually won't be necessary [00:18] network and broadcast can be deleted or set to .0 and .255 respectively [00:18] well, address was [00:18] i'd put a # symbol in front of the network and broadcast [00:18] yeah got adress [00:19] ok [00:19] both to .0? [00:19] one sec i'll pastebin an example just so we're 100% ok [00:20] http://pastebin.com/Fg3sQd1Z [00:20] there you go i sort of just copied mine and edited it as an example to how yours should look [00:20] it shouldn't matter what order the lines are in [00:21] x.x.x. or just .0? [00:21] with the # at the start of the lines, we're telling it 'ignore this line' so it doesn't matter :) [00:21] you could put 'broadcast BEER' and it won't care :D [00:22] * daftykins broadcasts beer to diddledan_ [00:22] ah ok thought so [00:22] \o/ [00:22] wht kinda beer btw? :D [00:22] *what [00:23] i'm just drinking some horrible stuff a friend left at my house [00:23] Fosters :( [00:23] normally i like ales [00:23] "good call" "huru" [00:23] I asked an aussie friend whether she knew the term huru and she'd never heard of it [00:23] ales are the brigher colored ones? [00:24] i like dark ales 8) [00:24] not familiar with the english terms for beer [00:24] schwarz ale 8D [00:24] ok [00:24] leolol: so once you're happy, press ctrl + X to save [00:24] like a dark ale is a bit strnger then a regular beer? (not talking about those light light light american beers) [00:25] yeah strong with a specific taste [00:25] what should i change the dns nameserver too? [00:25] oh it's got more [00:25] 192.168.0.1 as well [00:25] yeah we got awesome beer in austria :) [00:26] interesting... [00:26] do you have any local ale events? [00:26] i think isaved it [00:27] mhmm in vienna for sure [00:27] but also in the countryside [00:27] yeah it should have asked you Y/N/cancel [00:27] so Y for yes of course [00:27] then it asks to confirm the file name [00:27] a restaurant i go topretty often when i'm visiting family [00:27] has like 40 beers [00:27] i confirmed [00:27] "File Name to Write: interfaces" [00:27] then you just hit enter [00:28] then you're out and back at the prompt yep? [00:28] 40 beers :O sounds great [00:28] yiha [00:28] i love trying new ales [00:28] out of that notepad thingy too [00:28] cool [00:28] so now we want to tell it to reconfigure the network interface with those new values [00:28] from dark, to bright everything :D [00:28] one's called "deer beer" :P [00:29] 'sudo service networking restart' should do it [00:29] ok [00:29] hehehe [00:29] so what command? :) [00:29] ok [00:29] it isn't scrolling automatically here.. [00:29] i think it's 'networking', might be 'network' [00:29] did it go off the bottom of the screen? [00:31] one says unknown instance (netowkring) [00:31] and the other one says unrcognized service [00:31] hrmmph [00:31] the website? [00:31] yeah it's not auto scrlooing [00:32] scrolling [00:32] so when you type new commands is it just becoming unreadable? [00:32] i'm not sure i understand what's happening [00:32] no [00:32] i can read it [00:33] ok instead of above, try 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' [00:33] talking about the website here not ubuntu [00:33] :) [00:33] oh ok [00:34] it is reconfiguring the interfaces [00:34] sweet [00:34] ping 192.168.0.1 should work now :O [00:34] ok [00:34] it says [00:35] running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces [00:35] dono if that's normal [00:35] ^^ [00:35] yeah, that's ok, it's basically saying 'daftykins doesn't know the real command, he's a BAD person' [00:35] ok i try that [00:36] nope [00:36] it had something with 192.168.0.1 but now it is on .100 and says unreachable [00:37] do you have a smartphone / camera you can take pictures of the screen with and upload to imgur.com or some similar site? [00:37] noep nothing [00:37] sure [00:37] if you type 'ifconfig -a' [00:37] then take a picture please [00:37] you got skype? [00:38] yep [00:38] i could point a webcam at what i do [00:38] sounds good \o/ [00:38] <-- username [00:38] added [00:50] he wasn't joking [00:50] it's loud ^_^ [03:35] http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-035-OC [03:35] 100GB 'SATA 2' SSD for £49.99 inc [03:35] nice [03:36] you can get 1TB HDD for same price now too [03:36] seems the prices are finally starting to drop again [03:37] ...and there's me juggling files to free up space on a 20G PATA drive. [03:37] haha [03:37] oh hey ball. long time no see [03:38] you were penguin42's partner in crime for running ancient hardware right? :D [03:38] i spent the last two days juggling files across about 3TB of total space so i could image a 500GB drive for recovery [03:38] Probably :-) [03:38] and then it turned out to be the wrong drive anyway [03:38] you know, HD films make saturated gigabit LAN feel slow :( === feisar is now known as Guest63193 [08:09] morning all [08:37] irc.UK-IRC.net [09:21] good morning everyone, [09:27] morning [09:28] morning MooDoo [09:43] hey brobostigon [09:43] morning knightwise === dogmatic69_ is now known as dogmatic69 [12:27] hi [12:27] i cant do "cat /dev/video0" i get "cat: /dev/video0: Invalid argument" [12:31] I'm not sure what the mechanisms for reading video are - not all devices have to respond to normal read/writes [12:33] first-time-here: The package 'motion' is a way that has worked for me for recording video easily before [12:34] penguin42: i want to make stream of my webcam [12:34] hello! it's me again. is there anyone who would know how to fix this please: http://askubuntu.com/questions/299789/experiencing-problems-while-trying-to-upgrade-to-pangolin [12:39] hi AndreAM I would definitely go for a reinstall, without overwriting the home directory - and backup first [12:39] first-time-here: Yeh, I used motion to do that [12:40] first-time-here: Also try guvcview [12:41] or vlc, you can stream a webcam with vlc [14:22] you can stream anything with vlc :) [14:31] is it june yet? [15:31] boo! [15:35] waaa D: [15:43] eeee! [15:46] ^_^ [15:48] so cool to have a 3 day break instead of working [what seems like] most weekends as as weekdays :) [15:49] SuperEngineer: I've had 2 weeks (+ 2 days) off, have to work again on Monday :| [15:49] :D [15:50] MartijnVdS: Monday? tell them it's a bank hol in UK and to be politically coorect you need to observe it! [15:50] SuperEngineer: nah we had one last Monday.. and the thursday the week before that [15:50] lucky whatits# [15:51] *whatsits [15:51] SuperEngineer: blame it on the Catholics ;) [15:51] :) [15:51] ascension day and "the day after pentecost" [15:52] "the day after pentecost"??? [15:52] SuperEngineer: yeah we extend easter and pentecost by one day, so you get the Monday off work [15:52] it's our version of your bank holidays really [15:52] typical - to laid back to do it on the day ;) [15:52] but more catholic [15:54] guys, i was asked to help out with this person doing an EFI install of ubuntu 13.04 [15:54] apparently 12.04 worked fine in the past [15:55] i noticed from repeated questioning and experimentation that, in their two drive setup, the intended boot drive (an SSD) is attached to a Marvell 6Gb SATA controller, whilst the 3TB storage drive is attached to the 3Gb SATA ports provided by the intel chipset [15:56] warning bells go off for me for mixing SATA controller, i'd rather have had the SSD on the intel provided 6Gb SATA not the external Marvell controller [15:56] that might be the problem.. shouldn't be, but might be [15:56] any thoughts? [15:56] I'd put it on the intel and try again [15:56] apparently 13.04 installs, but at boot time GRUB says something like 'no such partition' [15:57] yeah - i was having a hard time convincing this person to feel up to touching the hardware ;x [15:57] based on the very acceptable view that 'it worked with 12.04' [15:57] well yes [15:57] although of course kernel support for the different controllers could be what's going wrong [15:57] maybe the system is confused (or the EFI partition is confused?) [15:58] yeah, there is a total GPT/MBR headache going on too [15:58] i want the 3TB disk to be disconnected completely for the install [15:58] so that the SSD is there on its' own [15:58] because throughout the whole thing (i'm like the 4th person getting involved or something) the SSD has been sdb [15:59] i tend to be pretty perfectionist about all OS installs, you'd never get me allowing my OS drive to be anything other than the primary [16:03] it should not be a problem [16:04] as long as the 3TB disk doesn't have an EFI partition (and the SSD does) [16:04] apparently the 3TB is GPT'd also - it has evidence of having had Windows on it before [16:04] and the 3 partition setup [16:07] 3TB has to be GPT, I think? because MBR only supports up to 2TB? [16:07] yep [16:07] but GPT isn't the issue, the EFI boot partition is [16:07] i'd rather run the install with just the SSD connected just to rule it out personally [16:07] if both disks have EFI partitions, one with "old" 12.04 grub, one with "new" 13.04 grub, it'll probably confuse itself [16:08] yeah that's the other thing, we don't 100% know the 'state' of each disk [16:08] Time to break out the backup disks and wipe before reinstalling ;) [16:08] the Asus motherboard's boot options refer to the Windows Loader being present, so there might be remnants of a Windows 7/8 install on the 3TB i think [16:08] hehe, yeah apparently the SSD is easily nuked [16:08] so that should make some of it easy [16:09] i was almost tempted, in googling about, to ask them to run this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ [16:09] good idea [16:10] whoopee! just found why the last few kernel updates have done the headers but not the kernel! [16:10] :o? [16:10] the generic package is no longer installed [probably removed during an over zealous clear up long time ago] [16:10] hehe oops [16:10] but which should I reinstall? [16:10] so you were getting the latest version header package but staying on the oldest kernel you had on? [16:11] linux-generic? [16:11] linux image-generic? [16:11] may as well [16:11] linux-generic = ok [16:11] unless any more specific flavour benefits you [16:11] MartijnVdS: thanks [16:11] daftykins: (hint: probably not ;)) [16:12] :D [16:12] daftykins: only if there is a "banana" or "coffee" flavour ;) [16:12] mmm coffee [16:12] i just had a late lunch from Costa [16:12] the carrot cake is still sat on my desk... [16:12] SuperEngineer: speaking of coffee: http://www.vandestreek-bier.nl/bieren/ [16:12] the caramel latte was great as always \o/ [16:13] this is the trouble with living right on the high street of the islands capital [16:13] the Costa and 3 other cofffe shops are all within 50m of my front door [16:13] :> [16:13] SuperEngineer: My brothers made those beers, one has coffee in it (they used 8l on a 300l tank) [16:13] daftykins: which island is that? or are you rich? ;) [16:14] lol no not rich [16:14] Guernsey [16:14] we're in the news a lot for Cameron being angry at tax havens [16:14] Also, I wonder what "the high street" of London would be [16:14] :D [16:14] it seems to have several [16:14] ours is a road literally called 'High Street' XD [16:15] http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=49.456106,-2.536581&spn=0.0034,0.003932&t=m&z=18 [16:15] \o/ [16:16] MartijnVdS: hmm your brothers and I have something in common [16:16] daftykins: lots of noms de rues françaises [16:16] SuperEngineer: coffee and beer? [16:16] indeed, 'tis a very French influenced place :) [16:17] hearing English / tourists pronounce place names is hilarious [16:17] daftykins: it's probably like my GPS [16:17] * SuperEngineer used to be a [rather good] brewer [16:17] MartijnVdS: hehehe [16:17] daftykins: when I was driving to Cornwall, its Dutch voice was pronouncing all the names [16:17] lmao [16:17] daftykins: and that makes lots of place names come out French-ish [16:19] (places ending in "-mouth" come to mind) [16:19] XD [16:19] hrmm [16:20] i was over at my parents last night, doing stuff on their ancient Athlon XP + nforce2 setup i put together years ago from spares [16:20] the hard disk is streaming hardware ECC errors in its' SMART info [16:20] i changed the PATA ribbon cable first naturally, but it kept going - probably going to die catastrophically some day isn't it? :D [16:20] eeeek [16:20] Once SMART starts to cry, you run to the store [16:21] *nod* [16:21] too true [16:21] although PATA - won't be buying anything fresh of that :D [16:21] sadly it's one of the two Abit NF7 boards that doesn't have the Silicon Image 3112a based SATA ports :< [16:21] but.. they've been saving money for a new computer.. right? :) [16:21] hahaha [16:21] * SuperEngineer loves the phrase "donker bier" [even if he does know the tanslation - it sounds good ;) [16:21] blowing it on constant home 'improvements' =/ [16:22] SuperEngineer: "donker" = dark [16:22] crazy old girl is after replacing the entire kitchen again [16:22] there's nothing wrong with it >_< [16:23] SuperEngineer: They've just "gone pro" after a crowd-funding run among friends and family, these are their first 2 beers (after brewing almost 50 one-off homebrews) [16:24] MartijnVdS: I wish the the very best of luck [16:26] all free samples this way please - purely for quality control of course ;) [16:26] SuperEngineer: they'll be in the UK in August I think [16:28] MartijnVdS: cool [16:28] * SuperEngineer looks forward to free samples ;() [16:35] back in 90 minutes - f1 qualifying replay time :-) [16:36] MartijnVdS: have you got any experience with uEFI Ubuntu installs at all? i'm wondering if you can tell / choose whether you boot 13.04 in legacy mode [16:42] daftykins: I did one once.. but it was a clean install on a clean system [16:45] i wonder if i can EFI install in a VM [16:45] probably not [16:45] daftykins: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/OVMF [16:46] daftykins: + http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/52996/how-to-boot-efi-kernel-using-qemu-kvm [16:46] ah i don't run Linux on the desktop [16:47] VMWare can do EFI guestsd [16:47] vbox seems to be able to do efi guests as well [16:47] hmmz [16:51] time to download 13.04 for fun [17:02] wow 13.04 still has the same ugly boot logo and menu on the liveCD [17:05] < Parsi> sudo dd if=/usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin of=/dev/sda6 [17:06] got some guy that ran that on his windows partition :X [17:41] hmm, indeed there appears to be no information regarding what *form* of partition table ubuntu creates during install [18:06] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [18:06] ok this has been pretty handy to learn a bit more [18:10] ¡ola! [18:10] hi popey [18:10] oops nearly called you pipey [19:17] put that in your pope and smoke it [19:28] Laney: :D [19:28] pub time [19:57] trying to sort out my ISAs ...what a pain [19:58] not looking forward to having to transfer mine later this year [19:58] stupid bonus periods [19:59] modern life is stressful [19:59] 1 day per year to sort out ISA [19:59] another to sort out home insurance [19:59] then car insurance, etc, etc [20:00] because everything is designed to rip you off [20:00] not to mention phone line/broadband [20:02] nationwide isa.interest rate 2.25% until sep 2014..then 0.5% [20:04] mungbean: THey normally get a bit more desperate at the end of the tax year [20:09] this is cool flight sim vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hipWoINtJX0 [20:35] Is there software for Ubuntu or Xubuntu that can write music files to an Apple iPod Nano (in a form that it can play)? [20:36] rhythmbox? [20:36] just drag the file to the device? [20:36] maybe banshee? [20:37] Oh. I thought the iPod needed some sort of database "thing" made on it before it would play the files. [20:37] it does [20:38] and banshee knows how to handle that [20:38] and rhythmbox [20:38] Oh. [20:38] if it's not the newest possible version [20:38] I'll see if I can install one of those on her PC then. [20:38] sometimes the very latest versions don't work [20:38] because Apple wants you to use Apple hard/software ONLY [20:39] * ball nods [20:39] vendor lock-in. [20:40] If I were buying her a music player, it wouldn't be an iPod. Her mum has an old one though. [20:40] iPod Nano 4th gen. I think. [20:40] old ones tend to be fine (because they've been reverse-engineered) [20:40] Too new for Rockbox but hopefully old enough for Rhythmbox [21:33] Good evening peeps :) [21:40] * ball waves [22:29] * penguin42 yawns