| jrwren | the tl;dr depends on your values. there are a couple things bad about monstanto. | 00:05 |
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| jrwren | for IP freedom, they patented a gene and got away with it. their gene patent case went to SCOTUS and basically SCOTUS ruled that yes, genes are patentable | 00:05 |
| jrwren | so if you like freedom of property, monstanto sucks. | 00:05 |
| jrwren | #2 as a result of this, they are allowed to sue farmers for patent infringement EVEN IF the farmer was never a monstanto customer. the soybeans germinate and the patented gene ends up in a soy field which previously was soy which did not have the patented gene. | 00:07 |
| jrwren | #3 round up is poison very bad for the environment (maybe?) | 00:07 |
| jrwren | #4 no one know the long term effects of all this GMO | 00:07 |
| jrwren | that written, I'd love to read greg-g's thought on the matter. | 00:14 |
| snap-l | GMO has veen going on long before monsanto; they just ccalled it breeding back then | 00:26 |
| snap-l | that said, I find monsanto disgusting on almost all other counts | 00:27 |
| jrwren | selective breeding v. gene splicing are very different | 00:34 |
| snap-l | jrwren: REsults are quite similar, even if the methods aren't shared. | 02:55 |
| jrwren | i disagree | 03:44 |
| snap-l | Interesting re: Google Buzz being automatically saved into Google Drive | 12:33 |
| snap-l | Well, I have successfully fucked my computer | 23:37 |
| snap-l | and it's all my fault. | 23:37 |
| snap-l | Replaced the power supply with a Thermaltake modular supply | 23:37 |
| snap-l | thought "I'll just leave the old connectors in there, as they should work" | 23:38 |
| snap-l | Rule #1: Double check, lest you release the sacred smoke | 23:38 |
| snap-l | and poof, the sacred smoke was released. | 23:38 |
| jrwren | how in the heck did you do that? | 23:45 |
| rick_h_ | ruh roh | 23:52 |
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