[00:05] <jrwren> the tl;dr depends on your values. there are a couple things bad about monstanto.
[00:05] <jrwren> for IP freedom, they patented a gene and got away with it. their gene patent case went to SCOTUS and basically SCOTUS ruled that yes, genes are patentable
[00:05] <jrwren> so if you like freedom of property, monstanto sucks.
[00:07] <jrwren> #2 as a result of this, they are allowed to sue farmers for patent infringement EVEN IF the farmer was never a monstanto customer. the soybeans germinate and the patented gene ends up in a soy field which previously was soy which did not have the patented gene.
[00:07] <jrwren> #3 round up is poison very bad for the environment (maybe?)
[00:07] <jrwren> #4 no one know the long term effects of all this GMO
[00:14] <jrwren> that written, I'd love to read greg-g's thought on the matter.
[00:26] <snap-l> GMO has veen going on long before monsanto; they just ccalled it breeding back then
[00:27] <snap-l> that said, I find monsanto disgusting on almost all other counts
[00:34] <jrwren> selective breeding v. gene splicing are very different
[02:55] <snap-l> jrwren: REsults are quite similar, even if the methods aren't shared.
[03:44] <jrwren> i disagree
[12:33] <snap-l> Interesting re: Google Buzz being automatically saved into Google Drive
[23:37] <snap-l> Well, I have successfully fucked my computer
[23:37] <snap-l> and it's all my fault.
[23:37] <snap-l> Replaced the power supply with a Thermaltake modular supply
[23:38] <snap-l> thought "I'll just leave the old connectors in there, as they should work"
[23:38] <snap-l> Rule #1: Double check, lest you release the sacred smoke
[23:38] <snap-l> and poof, the sacred smoke was released.
[23:45] <jrwren> how in the heck did you do that?
[23:52] <rick_h_> ruh roh