[00:02] <stef1a> does anyone have any idea why my touchpad might not be working in ubuntu 13.04?
[00:02] <stef1a> and unity? and sound?
[00:03] <phong_> ok vanishing
[00:03] <phong_> the worst i go back to 12.04
[00:03] <stef1a> phong_: me?
[00:03] <vanishing> ye
[00:04] <stef1a> oh
[00:04] <th0r> stef1a: you might look at the command line utility synclient. Among other things it can tell you how all the settings are set
[00:04] <phong_> vanishing, http://askubuntu.com/questions/290904/vmware-9-install-not-opening-after-extraction-on-13-04
[00:04] <Ari-Yang> phong_, well it wouldn't be the worst, especially if vmware works out just fine (not to mention it being LTS)
[00:05] <vanishing> phong_: ok..let me reconnect again
[00:05] <phong_> ok
[00:06] <phong_> same info
[00:06] <phong_> pass
[00:08] <noiro> any way to make window buttons/bars, etc bigger in KDE? They look oober tiny atm
[00:09] <nimbiotics> Hello evry1. I installed package, uninstalled it and now, when I try to install it again it just does not work. I get some warnings (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5698673/) and the program shows in the applications menu, but it just does not start. When i try to start from CL I get some warnings and finally a "not found"message (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5698679/). I already used "apt-get --purge...
[00:09] <nimbiotics> ...remove". Can some please help me solve this?? TIA!
[00:10] <Ari-Yang> noiro, there's a #KDE channel
[00:10] <Ari-Yang> in case nobody here knows the answer
[00:11] <th0r> nimbiotics: from the paste it looks like it pretty well completed
[00:11] <zisvv> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet. If you don't come I will kill myself. Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldz t f bvuxxciq ybidr
[00:11] <zisvv> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet. If you don't come I will kill myself. Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldolx qbxdgcg om hkrbgbahjl yhowroiyu
[00:11] <pnbjb> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet. If you don't come I will kill myself. Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldz t f bvuxxciq ybidr
[00:11] <pnbjb> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet. If you don't come I will kill myself. Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldolx qbxdgcg om hkrbgbahjl yhowroiyu
[00:11] <zisvv> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet. If you don't come I will kill myself. Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldzcqkqct o jnca l rb qnemdylib g ciojayopsq mjmrkqvqba
[00:11] <zisvv> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet. If you don't come I will kill myself. Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldbxgzpysopa lajqfm
[00:11] <pnbjb> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet. If you don't come I will kill myself. Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldzcqkqct o jnca l rb qnemdylib g ciojayopsq mjmrkqvqba
[00:11] <pnbjb> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet. If you don't come I will kill myself. Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldbxgzpysopa lajqfm
[00:11] <FloodBot1> zisvv: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <zisvv> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet. If you don't come I will kill myself. Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldsqoc l qpxxnlsd oip rkftoqne ryvzggag jvu nfv kbu
[00:11] <zisvv> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet. If you don't come I will kill myself. Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldabl itj nkrtkqmuww vluvnj
[00:11] <pnbjb> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet. If you don't come I will kill myself. Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldsqoc l qpxxnlsd oip rkftoqne ryvzggag jvu nfv kbu
[00:11] <pnbjb> i my name is GamerKitten, I'm 40 years old and I'm mother of two children. I have HIV and I would like to invite you to my channel #wrongplanet. If you don't come I will kill myself. Thank you -- Michelle Enfieldabl itj nkrtkqmuww vluvnj
[00:11] <FloodBot1> pnbjb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:12] <|s-a|> interesting
[00:13] <nimbiotics> th0r: No, it does not work, in spite of what it looks like
[00:15] <th0r> nimbiotics: have you tried starting it from the applications menu? It may require a start script that you aren't running from the command line.
[00:16] <nimbiotics> th0r: as I said in my original post; it does not start when I try the applications menu & I get no feedback whatsoever
[00:16] <binBlob> Hi, I've got a major problem, my frigging new lenovo y580 hangs after the syslinux 4.03 ... blabla H. Peter anvin if I try to boot a usb drive
[00:16] <th0r> nimbiotics: does the .desktop file call megacloud like you do in the paste?
[00:17] <nimbiotics> th0r: yes
[00:17] <Bernardes> Please, I need to replace mass accents in the names of my files how to do?
[00:17] <Bernardes> ex9t_: / home / john / Linkin Park - mÚiãT.mp3 to / home / john / link park muiat.mp3
[00:18] <Bernardes> can someone help me?
[00:18] <binBlob> sed could maybe help you
[00:18] <Bernardes> yes
[00:19] <Bernardes> more i dont have the script could help me?
[00:19] <binBlob> ufff sed is too difficult form me and the manpage is shit ;/ you have too google you way into this one
[00:20] <th0r> nimbiotics: the errors it throws regarding /usr/bin/megacloud are programming errors. Those things could be set up by a startup script before calling megacloud, but you say there is no call for one so....my guess would be that the package leaves something to be desired.
[00:21] <Bernardes> th0r, Sed you know?
[00:21] <th0r> Bernardes: nope
[00:21] <Bernardes> th0r, ok
[00:22] <Bernardes> Please, I need to replace mass accents in the names of my files how to do? ex: /home/john/LinkinPark-mÚiãT.mp3 to /home/john/link park muiat.mp3
[00:23] <cogy_> halo
[00:23] <th0r> I would love to find out why I keep getting dumped from irc
[00:23] <cogy_> why when i type sudo apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop
[00:23] <nimbiotics> th0r: no doubt about it ... but it was working before. I uninstalled trying to find out a the culprit for some other issue I was having
[00:23] <cogy_> its always Unable to locate package kde-plasma-desktop
[00:23] <cogy_> ?
[00:24] <cogy_> and the installation is fail
[00:24] <cogy_> is it repository problem??
[00:24] <cogy_> i use ubuntu 12.04
[00:25] <th0r> cogy_: it is in the universe repo I think. Make sure you have universe enabled
[00:25] <cogy_> some one help me
[00:26] <cogy_> hm
[00:26] <syntroPi> is it possible to disable rootwindow drawing in gnome 3 completely so i could let it draw eg with mplayer?
[00:27] <th0r> cogy_: no pm
[00:28] <tan2013> join #bullogger
[00:36] <daftykins> hrmm on server 12.04 what replaced 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' ? is it 'sudo service networking restart' or...?
[00:38] <elisa87> larsdoes this sound about right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5698755/
[00:39] <lykkelamen> Hello. I think I F'ed up my xorg.conf in some way, and now I can only boot into text-only mode
[00:40] <lykkelamen> Is there anything obvoius I could do to fix it?
[00:40] <|s-a|> lykkelamen , rm -f /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:41] <unknown__> try startx
[00:41] <binBlob> does s1 know how I can burn multiple bootable isos on one dvd ?
[00:42] <onitaL> Hello, if I select "Changes throught the day" in All Settings/Apparence, where does Unit pull the wallpapares from?
[00:42] <th0r> binBlob: I don't think that is possible
[00:42] <lykkelamen> when I run startx it says "Fatal server error, no screens found"
[00:42] <th0r> binBlob: you can store more than one if they are small enough, but you can't burn them
[00:42] <lykkelamen> |s-a|: Already tried that
[00:42] <IdleOne> binBlob: http://www.sarducd.it/multiboot-dvd-builder.html I used this once, worked pretty good.
[00:43] <|s-a|> lykkelamen , any errs before that no screens found ?
[00:44] <binBlob> IdleOne: thanks gonna look into this one
[00:44] <lykkelamen> |s-a|: A lot, but I cant scroll, so I cant see it
[00:45] <bobsamfredricks> ok, this is an embarrassingly lame question, but when i'm using the folder / file browser in ubuntu 12.04lts, how do i get it to show me details instead of icons? and i want it to be like this all the time, even when i log out / in
[00:45] <elisa87> is this line right? CC_FLAG = -g -fopenmp -O2 -static -lgomp -pthread
[00:45] <|s-a|> lykkelamen , sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/X.0.log
[00:46] <|s-a|> !pastebinit
[00:46] <|s-a|> nice :D
[00:46] <usr13> lykkelamen: You can't scoll up?  Did you try Shift-UpArrow or Shift-PageUp?
[00:47] <zykotick9> |s-a|: just a guess, but do you mean /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[00:47] <lykkelamen> |s-a|: paste.ubuntu.com/5698777
[00:47] <|s-a|> zykotick9 , yeah
[00:48] <|s-a|> !xorg-intel
[00:48] <usr13> lykkelamen: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log  #And send us resulting URL, we'll have a look.
[00:49] <lykkelamen> usr13: Just linked it to |s-a|.
[00:49] <lykkelamen> usr13: paste.ubuntu.com/5698777
[00:49] <sam113101> when I open the dash and click on photos, it's empty, which folder is it using?
[00:49] <|s-a|> !xserver-xorg-video-intel
[00:49] <sam113101> I have pictures inside my Pictures folder
[00:50] <lykkelamen> usr13, |s-a|: Does it work? I cant check it, no browser
[00:50] <|s-a|> lykkelamen , yeah , you have to install xorg-intel or something like that , maybe xserver-xorg-video-intel
[00:50] <lykkelamen> |s-a|: ok. I'll try that
[00:53] <usr13> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[00:53] <usr13> lykkelamen:   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^66
[00:54] <usr13> Should have been installed by default, I think.
[00:54] <sam113101> when I open the dash and click on photos, it's empty, which folder is it using?
[00:54] <sere> yea it installs by ddefault
[00:55] <usr13> sam113101: ~/Pictures   maybe?
[00:55] <sam113101> my Pictures folder isn't empty, though
[00:56] <usr13> sam113101: Well, I don't know what photos is in the dash but just try the file manager.
[00:56] <sam113101> "Search Photos"
[00:58] <usr13> sam113101: (Sorry but I use xfce/thunar and I guess it's a bit simpler for me :)
[00:59] <usr13> sam113101: (I don't Search Photos, I just view 'em.)
[01:00] <sam113101> I use my file manager too, but it just seems broken
[01:00] <sam113101> that's why I ask
[01:00] <IdleOne> Photos should be a symlink to ~/pictures
[01:00] <peyam> Hi
[01:00] <usr13> IdleOne: you mean ~/Pictures ?
[01:00] <peyam> Im using xubuntu 12.10 and every time want to see a youtube video firefox crashes
[01:01] <IdleOne> usr13: yeah.
[01:01] <peyam> while Im skyping
[01:01] <Guest23195> peyam , just launch firefox from terminal and when it crashes give us the errors
[01:01] <IdleOne> peyam: sounds like a flash issue. try www.youtube.com/html5 and see if it still crashes
[01:02] <peyam> IdleOne: You are not currently in the HTML5 trial.
[01:02] <IdleOne> peyam: join it :)
[01:02] <usr13> For questions about Firefox,  /join #firefox
[01:03] <binBlob> its more about flash than firefox i guess
[01:03] <peyam> IdleOne: not videos plays slowly and it doesnt  come any sound from it
[01:04] <IdleOne> peyam: :(
[01:04] <binBlob> kill the plugin container reload the site
[01:04] <peyam> shoudl I uninstall flashplayer?
[01:04] <IdleOne> no, skype needs it iirc
[01:05] <binBlob> see if the killing helps .. if not than you can try purging it
[01:05] <peyam> how do I kill it
[01:05] <binBlob> ctrl  + esc .. search for plugin container
[01:06] <peyam> I disable shockwave player
[01:06] <peyam> still nosound
[01:07] <binBlob> did you disable the flash plugin or did you kill the plugin container process ?
[01:08] <gabb> hi, I'm having problems installing ubuntu 2.04 from wubi, can anyone help me?
[01:08] <peyam> I disable shockwave player
[01:08] <peyam> I run xubuntu. ctrl+esc give ther xubuntu menu
[01:09] <binBlob> without flash there is no video and audio ... so you have to enable it again
[01:10] <peyam> binBlob: I did it now
[01:10] <binBlob> if flash still not does what it should you could try purging and reinstalling it ... but I don't think  this will solve your problem
[01:10] <elky> can someone tell me ow to get out of rhytmbox party mode plzkthx
[01:11] <peyam> binBlob: why can I hear anything while camming on skype?
[01:11] <peyam> that's the main issue
[01:11] <binBlob> peyam: thats not flash related than, check you audio settings
[01:12] <lasindi> Does anyone here use Empathy for IRC? When I try to add my account, it immediately shows a dialog that says applications can no longer access my freenode online account, and the "Grant access" button shows up again. (I guess this isn't an Empathy specific problem (more like a Unity settings problem), but that's the only reason I can see for doing this.)
[01:15] <binBlob> peyam: do you hear anything at all ?
[01:22] <peyam> How do I fix it
[01:22] <peyam> kils me
[01:25] <gabb> installed ubuntu on win 8 with wubi but it doesn't let me boot it? can anyone help?
[01:25] <branco> hi
[01:25] <ObrienDave> don't use wubi
[01:26] <branco> i use backbox
[01:27] <syntroPi> what on earth is wrong with alsa/pulse? there is one issue after the other...
[01:27] <ObrienDave> i don't know Win8 but why not just install via live cd?
[01:27] <branco> i am newbe
[01:27] <gabb> so shall i do the standard usb installation instead of wubi?
[01:28] <syntroPi> first no hdmi sound for nvidia drivers, then crackling sound with skype, now with updated skype no sound AT ALL :-/
[01:29] <syntroPi> Does someone use Skype 4.2.0.11 on x64 ubuntu raring with working pulse/alsa?
[01:29] <branco> so aiai
[01:29] <binBlob> your not alone peyam hase the same problem as it seems
[01:29] <ObrienDave> gabb: I did a dual boot with win7. rarely use Win anymore ;)
[01:30] <elisa87> I need to convert this alpha assembly to x86 assembly. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5698864/
[01:30] <ObrienDave> I run Xubuntu. haven't looked back in 2 years :))
[01:31] <ObrienDave> syntro: yes, i use skype that way
[01:31] <gabb> dual boot?
[01:31] <ObrienDave> gabb: yes, i have the option of booting either through GRUB
[01:32] <binBlob> well i always look back to win if i want to connect damn frigging second display ... not even talking about 3 or 4 ... ;(
[01:32] <ObrienDave> brb
[01:32]  * ObrienDave is away: Snoozin
[01:34]  * ObrienDave is back (gone 00:01:31)
[01:34] <ObrienDave> gabb: have you tried the live cd?
[01:37] <binBlob> IdleOne: sardu is damn nice ;)
[01:37] <FreezingCold> This is a really weird question, how can I just boot the kernel and then use a network drive as root?
[01:40] <branco> alguem fala porgugues?
[01:40] <dominic_> llo
[01:41] <dominic_> what would it change for me to learn how to control the shelll like terminal
[01:43] <binBlob> win shell like linux terminal ??
[01:44] <FreezingCold> dominic_: uh what...
[01:44] <ObrienDave> gabb: still there?
[01:44] <noiro> Ratio so far: 10 questions asked: 2 answered
[01:44] <FreezingCold> dominic_: using the terminal isn't harder, it's easier
[01:44] <FreezingCold> noiro: so?
[01:46] <dominic_> i dont see how
[01:47] <dominic_> if i want to change a setting , it takes me 2 sec with unity
[01:47] <ObrienDave> dominic: once you get used to it, it's easier
[01:47] <FreezingCold> donvito: bingo, then keep using Unity
[01:47] <FreezingCold> dominic_: don't use the terminal for the sake of using the terminal. Only use it if you actually want to
[01:48] <FreezingCold> as you use Linux longer and longer you'll probably find yourself there
[01:49] <dominic_> can i program with the terminal
[01:49] <rypervenche> dominic_: You sure can. Some programs have command line ways to do things, otherwise you can simply start the GUI program from the command line.
[01:49] <tanstaafl> dominic: yes you can, python console, vim, etc.  I find myself scripting there or quick fixing classes frequeently
[01:50] <branco> use g++  c language
[01:50] <jdubs> hey guys. i've run into a problem running xubuntu. installation was great, been using it for a couple days
[01:50] <tanstaafl> also, if you aren't ready to dive into vim, you can just use nano or pico
[01:50] <dominic_> what would be the first step
[01:50] <jdubs> upon reboot today, it went to memtest
[01:50] <jdubs> and im stuck there
[01:50] <jdubs> i can't boot back into xubuntu
[01:51] <tanstaafl> dominic: first step to programming in terminal?
[01:51] <dominic_> yes
[01:52] <tanstaafl> dominic: 1. learn how to program.  2.  build a dev environment that can work with terminal (gcc, g++, gdb), find a terminal editor you like (vim, nano, etc), then program
[01:52] <orangecat> Any python coders here?
[01:52] <ObrienDave> jdubs: you might need to re-configure GRUB
[01:52] <jdubs> using a usb booter, i've gotten into recovery.
[01:52] <jdubs> i have access to root
[01:53] <energizer> Hello. I'm trying to set up a media server. Unless I set my storage HDD  permissions to o=rx, MediaTomb won't find the files and folders, even though they're owned by energizer and chromium is owned by energizer. What am I missing?
[01:53] <jdubs> in /boot/ all i see grub, memtest+86.bin and memtest86+_multiboot.bin
[01:53] <jdubs> how should i go about re-conf'ing grub?
[01:54] <dr_willis> energizer:  what fs is the storage hd using? is it a external usb hd?
[01:54] <ObrienDave> i'm not real real strong on GRUB, i use grub-customizer
[01:54] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[01:55] <energizer> dr_willis its attached in the machine. ext4.
[01:56] <dr_willis> energizer:  so its mounted via fstab to like /media/storage?
[01:56] <energizer> I'm pretty new at all this. Is MediaTomb/Plex (server programs) running as a user other than energizer?
[01:56] <energizer> dr_willis ya
[01:56] <dr_willis> Plex and medatomb are differnt services/tools.. I think they can run as a user. or as a stand alone service
[01:57] <dr_willis> theres also ushare, and minidlna   for upnp servers
[01:58] <dr_willis> ive been using plex lately, but on a windows machine.
[01:59] <dr_willis> xbmc can also work as a dlna/upnp server.
[01:59] <energizer> So I think I'm having a more fundamental problem than just the server software. if i run MediaTomb or Plex from Unity, it opens ip:port in chrome, and it fails to see any contents of the HDD unless HDD has Other permissions.
[02:00] <dr_willis> what other permissions? you set teh permissions once.. and gthey should stick
[02:00] <yujia0513> Hi,everybody
[02:01] <Random832> dr_willis: I think he meant Other as in User, Group, Other
[02:01] <energizer> ya
[02:01] <yujia0513> How can i search *news* in emphaty(i joined freenode irc room)
[02:02] <yujia0513> ubuntu 12.04 LTS,empathy 3.4.2.3,,,,
[02:02] <jdubs> i have an iso of the same xubuntu i installed. through it i go into recovery mode. i re-installed the grub with no effect. is there some way i can just recompile/install the kernel?
[02:02] <dr_willis> the dlna servers may be running as thir own seperate user. that would make sence for a service
[02:02] <dr_willis> jdubs:  tried the boot-repair tool ?
[02:03] <jdubs> boot-repair?
[02:03] <dr_willis> you can chroot into the installed system and install kernels and other packages..   but that  may not fix the grub issues
[02:03] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[02:03] <ObrienDave> that could work
[02:03] <dr_willis> boot-repair tool is mentioned in the fix grub wiki pages
[02:04] <jdubs> i already rreinstalled the grub boot loader
[02:04] <dr_willis> if you havent tried it.. thats the first thing i would try
[02:04] <yujia0513> LIST *news*
[02:04] <yujia0513> it doesn't work...
[02:04] <dr_willis> yujia0513:  what?
[02:04] <dr_willis> !alis
[02:04] <jdubs> yeah, i all ready tried that, dr_willis
[02:04] <ObrienDave> yujia: prefix commands with /
[02:04] <jdubs> no affect
[02:04] <yujia0513> I can't search rooms in empathy.
[02:05] <dr_willis> use the alis bot yujia0513
[02:05] <dr_willis> using the /list command can  be bad. ;) due to the HUGE size of list output
[02:06] <madprops> irssi requires you to add a -YES to use /list
[02:06] <madprops> precisely for that reason I guess
[02:06] <dr_willis> yep
[02:06] <madprops> I wonder if there's a command to filter the list, if not there should be
[02:07] <dr_willis> thats why the alis bot was invented. ;)
[02:07] <dr_willis> moves the filtering off to the alis bot/server
[02:08] <yujia0513> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService----------thanks very much,ubottu,it works.....thanks again...
[02:08] <dr_willis> !bot
[02:09] <daftykins> hey guys, how do i change the owner of folder 'x' to 'user'? "sudo chown..." ?
[02:10] <dr_willis> chown bubba.bubba folder
[02:10] <dr_willis> !permiaaions
[02:10] <daftykins> of course
[02:10] <dr_willis> !permissions
[02:10] <daftykins> thanks dr_willis :>
[02:10] <jrib> daftykins: use : instead of . (both will work but . is deprecated I believe)
[02:10] <dr_willis> this isent on a ntfs or vfat partition is it?
[02:11] <daftykins> jrib: ja, i did think that was what i used in the past - thanks
[02:12] <omnizya> hello
[02:12] <energizer> what does the plus mean in drwxr--r--+
[02:13] <omnizya> I wanna customize the menu on gnome-panel, can i get help?
[02:14] <dr_willis> customize in  wat way? you mean in the fallback gnome classic mode?
[02:15] <omnizya> i wanna change the menu
[02:15] <dr_willis> well yes.. customize would mean to change.. give us details would help us help you.
[02:15] <omnizya> make my own application list with categories
[02:15] <energizer> dr_willis what does the plus mean?  "drwxr--r--+ 2 energizer energizer 4096 May 19 19:52 f1"
[02:16] <dr_willis> energizer:  cant say ive ever noticed that
[02:16] <energizer> dr_willis aite thanks
[02:18] <omnizya> how the menu is organized automaticlly
[02:18] <dr_willis> omnizya:  im GUESSING you mean the 'applications' menu because you wont give details and ''menu' is vague..
[02:19] <dr_willis> omnizya:  everh menu item/app has a corasponding   .desktop file   ie:   gedit.desktop    gvim.desktop   gnome-terminal.desktop  that define the menu info for that application
[02:19] <blebaford> Hey guys I just tried to log out of my session and my computer is stuck at a black screen with some white text that says "* Checking battery state...", "* Stopping System V runlevel compatibility", followed 7 lines starting with [ OK ]. Theres a blinking cursor and I don't know what I should do.
[02:19] <dr_willis> i belive the format of the .desktop files is defined at the freedesktop.org site/specs
[02:20] <omnizya> yes
[02:20] <dr_willis> blebaford:  most likely its shut down.. but dident power off.. press/hold the power key to actually power off
[02:20] <genii-around> blebaford: Were you going to shut down or log in as another user?
[02:20] <energizer> Is it considered safe to set all the folders in a storage HDD to o+rx and all the files to o+r?
[02:20] <ObrienDave> bleabford: press CTRL-C
[02:21] <omnizya> all right
[02:21] <dr_willis> energizer:  a diretory has to be 'x' in order for people to access the contents.. so if you want 'others' to access whts IN the folder.. it HAS to be o+rx   i belive
[02:21] <blebaford> genii-around: I'm pretty sure I was just logging out to log back in.
[02:21] <genii-around> blebaford: ctrl-alt-f1, login to console. sudo restart lightdm
[02:22] <djapo> can't get keyboard to pair at boot i have bluetooth enabled via systemctl and i have added the keyboard to trusted in /var/lib/bluetooth/[bluetoothaddr]/trusted
[02:22] <deezed> hey guys, I had a problem with my ubuntu here, so I'm gonna reinstall it all, I was just wondering which directories should I backup to mantain my configurations?
[02:22] <blebaford> dr_willis: I wasn't intending to turn off the power, just log out. I could just hit the power button but I'd like to prevent this issue from recurring.
[02:22] <genii-around> blebaford: If f1 doesn't work, try f2
[02:22] <daftykins> deezed: just your /home
[02:22] <tanstaafl> is there a way to handle "dpkg: error processing icaclient:i386 (--configure):" without using dpkg --purge?
[02:22] <daftykins> deezed: unless you use any crazy programs that don't store user configuration in the user area :D
[02:22] <dr_willis> blebaford:  so you selected  'logout' ?  from the menus? if so see if theres still consoles running on alt-ctrl-f1 through f6
[02:23] <deezed> daftykins: thanks! so when I install it again all my configs will be safe, even desktop colors and keyboard shortcuts?
[02:23] <rmobenchain> upon bootup, I keep receiving the following message.  udevd [110]:timeout: 'sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sde' [319].  Have I killed my compuer?
[02:23] <dr_willis> blebaford:  ive seen some issues ages ago with some drivers that would crash on trying to exit X
[02:23] <daftykins> deezed: ooh, i'm not 100% about the desktop stuff actually. anyone else?
[02:23] <dr_willis> rmobenchain:  depends on wht 'sde' is..
[02:24] <yujia0513> there is other questions...can i close the "ChanServ" windows?
[02:24] <dr_willis> deezed:  all user settings are kept in the users home
[02:24] <blebaford> genii-around: was able to log in with the cli, then when I try sudo restart lightdm, I get "restart: Unknown instance:"
[02:24] <dr_willis> yujia0513:  yes. its just a bot msging you in a window.
[02:24] <genii-around> blebaford: So then sudo start lightdm
[02:24] <deezed> daftykins: oh, so my softwares will be safe? or will I have to reinstall them all as well?
[02:24] <dr_willis> blebaford:  'sudo service lightdm restart;'  perhaps
[02:24] <dr_willis> oops  no ;
[02:24] <omnizya> have you any idea to re-build customized version of ubuntu or debian distro?
[02:24] <genii-around> dr_willis: No, it's not a sysvinit job
[02:25] <deezed> dr_willis: thanks!
[02:25] <rmobenchain> <dr willis> well, I also get this error message.  Input/Output error read on /dev/sda
[02:25] <dr_willis> deezed:  user SETTING files arre in their home.. apps you instgalled on the system  via the package manager tools are NOT stored in the users home.
[02:25] <dr_willis> err.. i use 'sudo servicce lightdm restart' all the time
[02:25] <blebaford> genii-around: I did that and now I am taken back to the same screen I was stuck at, with the same text.
[02:25] <daftykins> deezed: you'd definitely need to know what packages you've installed, keeping /home just has the configuration files to make those programs run the same. for example if you use an IRC client Xchat, the config of what servers to connect to / channels to join will be in your /home but on a clean installation you'd need to reinstall Xchat
[02:26] <yujia0513> thanks dr_willis...
[02:26] <genii-around> blebaford: The login screen worked when you originally booted?
[02:26] <blebaford> genii-around: yes
[02:27] <deezed> Uhm!! got it!! thanks a lot u guys!
[02:27] <genii-around> blebaford: Did you run updates before logging out?
[02:27] <blebaford> genii-around: I think so
[02:28] <genii-around> blebaford: It's conceivable there was some update to lightdm, although unlikely. If you ctrl-alt-f1 (or f2) again and put apt-cache policy lightdm    ...it shows as installed?
[02:29] <blebaford> genii-around: yes it's installed. 1.2.3-0ubuntu2
[02:29] <yujia0513> I already favorite "#ubuntu" and "##English",and I can see the two rooms in "Manage Favorite Rooms",but I can't understand what is "Auto-connect" meanings....	
[02:30] <yujia0513> is it mean "when I starton ubuntu" or "when I starton empathy"...or elas
[02:31] <genii-around> blebaford: Does: ps -el | grep 'Z'        show anything?
[02:32] <blebaford> genii-around: just the header line with SZ in it (for size)
[02:32] <genii-around> OK, so no zombies
[02:33] <genii-around> blebaford: Does ps aux | grep lightdm    ...show it as currently running?
[02:34] <blebaford> genii-around: yes
sorry, had to make a call. u still there?
[02:35] <ObrienDave> sure
[02:35] <FearGod> did you know god can kill you?
[02:35] <FearGod> http://believeintheholybible.blogspot.com/
[02:36] <i3luefire_> fuk gawd
[02:36] <yujia0513> hi,guys,i need help with a very simple thing if I may close the "Topic:******************"
[02:36] <genii-around> blebaford: Sometimes it starts on console other than 7. Try ctrl-alt-  then with f6, then with f7 (normally the one it should be on) , then f8   . If no login on any of these, go back to the console you were in before
[02:36] <FearGod> you just blasphmed
[02:36] <i3luefire_> yep
[02:36] <yujia0513> may I ?
[02:36] <FearGod> your going to hell blaspheme is an unforgivable sin
[02:37] <i3luefire_> oh nos
[02:37] <tanstaafl> is there a way to handle "dpkg: error processing icaclient:i386 (--configure):" without using dpkg --purge?
[02:37] <gabb> Do I have to access mi BIOS to install from a live cd?
[02:37] <genii-around> i3luefire_: Also, please watch the profanity in here whether it's directed at deities or not
[02:37] <blebaford> genii-around: both f7 and f8 show the same screen which I was stuck at originally
[02:38] <i3luefire_> oops. sorry bout the language
[02:38] <ObrienDave> gabb, only to make it boot from the CD first. does it do that now?
[02:38] <rublind> how do I get it so the 'do-release-upgrade' message goes away? I'm already on 13.04...
[02:38] <genii-around> blebaford: OK. So I would try now: sudo stop lightdm   ... and then see if ps aux| grep lightdm      still shows it
[02:39] <yujia0513> :-O
[02:39] <ItsMeLenny> hello, I have this problem where my ubuntu keeps freezing, and I have to do a hard reboot, this seems to happen a lot sometimes then stops after some kernal updates then starts again after other ones (but im not actually sure if thats the problem)
[02:39] <blebaford> genii-around: after that, lightdm is gone
[02:39] <ObrienDave> gabb: will it boot from USB stick?
[02:40] <gabb> the thing is I tried to acces my Bios the other day on my ASUS laptop but I couldn't, even tried all the fkeys but didn't have luck
[02:40] <genii-around> blebaford: Ok. Very odd. Are you using proprietary video driver like fglrx or nvidia?
[02:40] <gabb> that's why I decided to use wubi
[02:41] <ObrienDave> you can try INS, HOME, DEL. could be any one of the keys
[02:41] <ObrienDave> gabb, have you booted from either USB or CD or DVD?
[02:41] <blebaford> genii-around: Not sure. I know I don't have nvidia graphics.
[02:42] <gabb> supposedly i should be able to access it with the f2 key, according tu asus support
[02:42] <gabb> no, haven't tried
[02:42] <bassam> hello guys, my chromium keeps refreshing
[02:42] <bassam> can you help?
[02:43] <genii-around> blebaford: Does:  grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf    ... show anything, or it says the file doesn't exist?
[02:43] <ObrienDave> gabb, try burning the ISO to DVD first. most 'puters are set up to boot from optical media already
[02:44] <blebaford> genii-around: doesn't exist
[02:44] <bassam> grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[02:44] <bassam> grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[02:44] <genii-around> blebaford: OK. So at this point I'm out of immediate ideas other than a reboot and then see if the problem persists
[02:45] <vn151502510> bassam: refreshing with all url?
[02:45] <genii-around> bassam: You have to put something in between the grep and the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:45] <blebaford> genii-around: alright I'll give it a go.
[02:45] <branco> ola pessoal nao consigo ligar a vidalia do tor time out
[02:45] <bassam> all sites
[02:45] <genii-around> blebaford: You can do: sudo sync && sudo shutdown -r now
[02:46] <gabb> ok, I'll unistall the ubuntu that I can't seem to boot and try the live cd option
[02:46] <gabb> thanks for your help
[02:46] <vn151502510> bassam: I dont get it. refresh like press F5?
[02:47] <ObrienDave> no, you can leave it there and use the live DVD to update your install
[02:47] <ObrienDave> just MAKE SURE you update the proper partition
[02:48] <ObrienDave> it should detect your current install. just make sure
[02:49] <ObrienDave> gabb, you catch that?
[02:50] <gabb> ok
[02:50] <ObrienDave> cool, good luck
[02:50] <gabb> I'm just worried I can't access my BIOS
[02:51] <ObrienDave> gabb, what brand and model # ?
[02:52] <ObrienDave> ok, you said ASUS, what model?
[02:52] <gabb> it's an asusQ500
[02:54] <ObrienDave> gabb, use DEL key to enter BIOS
[02:54] <ObrienDave> http://www.asus.com/999/html/events/mb/images/mb_features/ezflash01.gif
[02:55] <ObrienDave> gabb, sorry ALT-F2 then DEL
[02:56] <gabb> must be the combination 'cause i tried f2 and del, but none worked
[02:56] <blebaford> genii-around: well I did sudo reboot. now I am having a problem that I couldn't fix yesterday: I get a black screen at startup. The computer isn't responsive to anything but pressing the power button, which makes it show the ubuntu logo briefly before shutting down. I was in IRC last night for some time trying to fix this and I ended up giving up and reinstalling ubuntu. before doing that I tried the repairboot utility, repair b
[02:56] <blebaford> roken packages from recovery mode, apt-get update from recovery mode, and booting from a different kernel version. The problem started yesterday with the same issue I brought to you: it gave me a black screen with some text when I tried to logout/shutdown. I just wasn't patient and I hit the power button. Open to ideas.
[02:57] <ObrienDave> gabb: http://www.asus.com/999/html/events/mb/ezflash.htm
[02:58] <ObrienDave> gabb: just do NOT enter the flash BIOS util. you can brick your 'puter without the disk
[02:59] <ObrienDave> brb
[03:00] <genii-around> blebaford: Well, does the ctrl-alt-f1 work again to get into a console?
[03:02] <genii-around> blebaford: Your problem is almost certainly the nomodeset needs to be done, but we have to mess with config files, etc
[03:03] <gabb> ObrienDave: shall I follow these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI ?
[03:03] <blebaford> genii-around: unfortunately not. I could boot in recovery mode.
[03:04] <genii-around> blebaford: We can do it fropm there, so long as you have a command prompt.
[03:04] <we6jbo> How do I prevent the screen from turning off when I'm on battery mode?
[03:05] <genii-around> we6jbo: put xset dmps force off     ...into /etc/rc.local
[03:05] <blebaford> genii-around: ok I got a root shell prompt
[03:05] <ObrienDave> gabb: not familiar with UEFI. seems logical though
[03:06] <genii-around> blebaford: OK. So, nano /etc/default/grub    and put this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset"
[03:06] <ObrienDave> gabb: see if you can get to BIOS first
[03:06] <genii-around> blebaford: Then ctrl-x to exit, it will ask about saving, just hit enter
[03:07] <genii-around> blebaford: Then:  update-initramfs -u && update-grub
[03:09] <gabb> ObrienDave: hopre it works
[03:09] <genii-around> blebaford: While we are here, should see what video card it uses. So: lshw -short -C video | tail -n1          ...will give us an idea
[03:09] <Erealz> hi everyone i need help real quick . i just installed debian 7 on my netbook but no wireless drivers were installed i believe it a brodcom i need to know what apt-get driver do i install to make wireless work. on ubuntu of course works out the box but i wonder what the driver it use be defoult
[03:09] <ObrienDave> gabb: try getting into BIOS first. see if you have UEFI. we'll go from there
[03:11] <blebaford> genii-around: nano is giving me the error: "Error writing /etc/default/grup: Read-only file system" may have something to do with recovery mode...
[03:11] <blebaford> genii-around: I tried sudo and all that but no luck
[03:12] <genii-around> blebaford: Yes. So:  mount -a -o remount,rw     ...and then try again
[03:13] <Erealz> hi everyone i need help real quick . i just installed debian 7 on my netbook but no wireless drivers were installed i believe it a brodcom i need to know what apt-get driver do i install to make wireless work. on ubuntu of course works out the box but i wonder what the driver it use be defoult
[03:13] <Erealz> broadcom bcm 4313 what driver those ubuntu use for wireless
[03:13] <genii-around> !bcm | Erealz
[03:14] <genii-around> Erealz: More than that, you need Debian support and not Ubuntu :)
[03:15] <blebaford> genii-around: still telling me Read-only file system
[03:17] <paulo_> oi
[03:17] <ObrienDave> Blebaford: are you root?
[03:17] <paulo_> good night guys...
[03:18] <genii-around> blebaford: OK. So then the other way would be to issue reboot, then get into the Grub menu, edit the line which has: quiet splash      in it by adding: nomodeset    to the end then try booting that
[03:18] <genii-around> ObrienDave: They are in recovery boot
[03:18] <blebaford> genii-around: I was root, but I was able to get to another prompt by choosing "resume normal boot" and typing ctl-alt-f1.
[03:18] <ObrienDave> ok
[03:18] <genii-around> blebaford: So in that case forget the reboot instructions and follow the original ones :)
[03:19] <genii-around> blebaford: I have to go grab a coffee, back in a few minutes
[03:20] <ObrienDave> gabb: read this please: http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-uefi-supported-windows-8-system
[03:24] <genii-around> blebaford: Back. Did you manage to complete any of the steps?
[03:24] <blebaford> genii-around: When I did sudo update-initramfs -u && update-grub, I get a line that says "grub-mkconfig: You must run this as root" ... does that mean it didn't work? I used sudo. su doesn't seem to work which may be a quirk of ubuntu?
[03:25] <genii-around> blebaford: Ah, yes. If you're at regular prompt now, all the commands require sudo in front
[03:25] <genii-around> blebaford: So in this case, sudo update-grub
[03:25] <ObrienDave> or you can try sudo -i to go root in current terminal
[03:26] <blebaford> gentii-around: I used sudo but still got "grub-mkconfig: You must run this as root". I didn't say "error" so maybe I'm fine?
[03:27] <blebaford> gentii-around: I did sudo -i as OD said. when I ran sudo update-initramfs -u && update-grub, I got some more lines ending with "done" so that must be a good sign.
[03:28] <genii-around> blebaford: The command: sudo update-initramfs -u && update-grub     ...is two commands, separated by the && which means only do the next thing if the first thing goes OK. So you needed either a sudo between the && and the update-grub, or just run sudo update-grub  by itself
[03:28]  * genii-around sips his coffee
[03:28] <blebaford> genii-around: ok that explains the behavior
[03:29] <gabb> ObrienDave: that's exactly my problem
[03:29] <gabb> though I did make a partition but I formatted it
[03:30] <genii-around> blebaford: While we are here, should see what video card it uses. So: lshw -short -C video | tail -n1 ...will give us an idea. It might be some oddball thing like Optimus
[03:30] <elisa87> why mount: mount point /mnt/tmp does not exist ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5699056/
[03:30] <genii-around> blebaford: sudo lshw -short -C video | tail -n1      ...rather ;)
[03:30] <gabb> f****** win8
[03:31] <genii-around> gabb: I feel your pain.
[03:31] <blebaford> genii-around: I'm getting "/0/100/2    display    2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller" .... It's Intel I think.
[03:31] <ObrienDave> gabb: that should not be a problem. when you made the ubuntu partition, did you make a swap partition as well?
[03:31] <genii-around> blebaford: Yup
[03:32] <blebaford> gentii-around: now... reboot?
[03:32] <genii-around> blebaford: Yes: sudo sync && sudo shutdown -r now    ....and see if we get login
[03:35] <matthew> hey?
[03:35] <gabb> no swap partition
[03:35] <Guest67339> hellow?
[03:35] <ObrienDave> gabb: LOL, that's why i gave up on Win period ;))
[03:35] <omnizya> hello
[03:35] <Guest67339> this is crazy.
[03:36] <Guest67339> just put this operation system in my broke computer
[03:37] <hackoo> My USB modem disconnects very frequently in Ubuntu 12.04. I am forced to use Windows 7, same modem do not get disconnected on Windows 7 with same laptop. Help to resolve it would be highly appreciated.
[03:37] <ObrienDave> gabb, that is probably the problem. boot the live DVD, run gparted, add a swap partition the same size as your memory to the END of your ubuntu partition
[03:37] <blebaford> genii-around: alright now slightly different behavior. I am stuck at a purple screen that says "Ubuntu" with dots below that aren't moving.
[03:37] <Biomechd> hey guys, got another issue. apparently my laptop can't detect my speakers this boot session, and i can't stream the sound through my headphones in chrome.
[03:37] <genii-around> blebaford: Well, give it a little while first then
[03:38] <ObrienDave> Biomechd: is the volume up? headphones have a different control. can't tell how how many times people have asked that ;))
[03:39] <blebaford> genii-around: I already waited 2 minutes or so. Could wait more. Pressing the power button makes the dots start to change color like it's starting up, then it turns off.
[03:39] <Biomechd> yes, the volume is up.
[03:39] <Biomechd> oh, i meant to say earphones, by the way.
[03:39] <genii-around> blebaford: OK. So the old ctrl-alt-f1 , login
[03:39] <ObrienDave> no biggie, same level control
[03:39] <Biomechd> and they don't have a little volume node thing on them either.
[03:40] <genii-around> blebaford: I suspect it's doing a file system check but not telling us. how large is the hard drive?
[03:41] <blebaford> genii-around: 320 GB but I'm only using a 200GB partition for ubuntu. The rest is free space.
[03:41] <genii-around> Phone, back in a few
[03:42] <blebaford> genii-around: back at the command prompt now.
[03:43] <surt> Hello. I am having trouble with my rtl8192ce compatible pci-e wifi card. I tried updating the driver manually but it still drops out regularly and won't reconnect. So I am now trying to update to the latest kernel (3.5.0-31-generic) after researching this to be a solution. However, I cannot get into my system because I get this error: unknown filesystem type reiserfs. I read this to be a failure of the system to finish "mkinitrd". But I don't k
[03:43] <surt> Can anyone help I'm DROWNING...in issues here.
[03:44] <dank101> help
[03:44] <dank101> i just installed Illumination Software Creator via the offical deb
[03:44] <dank101> it son't show up unity
[03:44] <dank101> *won't
[03:44] <dank101> AT ALL
[03:45] <gzy23> hello everyone
[03:46] <dank101> anyone willing to help me?
[03:46] <dank101> hi
[03:46] <gzy23> i've run into an issue with mounting a drive that was in an ext4 raid 1 configuration
[03:46] <genii-around> blebaford:OK. mount| grep ' / '       ...should tell you which partition we need to run fsck on.
[03:46] <gzy23> i had it in an synology nas which operates on some variant of debian linux
[03:46] <ObrienDave> dank: give it a minute, someone will help
[03:46] <genii-around> blebaford: Something like /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2   most likely
[03:46] <gzy23> i have two 1 tb wdblacks that were in raid 1
[03:47] <dank101> ...
[03:47] <blebaford> genii-around: got it /dev/sda1
[03:47] <dank101> well
[03:47] <dank101> when i ask a question noone answers it
[03:47] <dank101> someone elses
[03:47] <surt> Maybe my question was too complex so I might just rephrase: How do I trigger mkinitrd correctly after upgrading system in ubuntu?
[03:47] <dank101> 3,000,000 answers
[03:47] <genii-around> blebaford: sudo mount -o remount,ro /      ..... does this run OK ?
[03:48] <genii-around> blebaford: If so, then:  sudo fsck /dev/sda1 and grab a coffee ;)
[03:48] <hackoo> We don't have /var/log/messages in Ubuntu so what we have instead of it ?
[03:48] <dank101> what am i a ****ing ghost here?
[03:49] <blebaford> genii-around: it's telling me "mount: / is busy"
[03:49] <dank101> i take that as a yes
[03:49] <surt> c**t...
[03:49] <genii-around> surt: sudo update-initramfs -u
[03:49] <surt> thank you
[03:50] <ObrienDave> dank101: patience please. someone will help
[03:50] <crazyhorse> hi, i installed ubuntu via usb disk and the main drive is not bootable
[03:50] <surt> genii-around: "Warning: No support for locale: en_AU.utf8" - is that OK? Possible cause?
[03:50] <crazyhorse> I created a 200gb partition using ext4, a 2gb swap partition.. and installed ubuntu not he 200gb partition
[03:50] <genii-around> dank101: If no one has approached with an answer to your question, please wait 5-7 minutes then ask again. It's likely no one currently here knows the answer, so no one is responding
[03:50] <crazyhorse> after rebooting, chaging the bios boot priorities, it won't boot
[03:51] <genii-around> surt: I'm already occupied with assisting someone else currently. This sounds like some deeper issue
[03:51] <surt> OK. Thanks.
[03:51] <genii-around> blebaford: OK, so tedious but... reboot into recovery, get a console there, then issue:  fsck /dev/sda1
[03:52] <crazyhorse> is there any magic you have to do in ubuntu to make a particular partition bootable?
[03:53] <dank101> crazyhorse, in GParted there is a option in there
[03:53] <crazyhorse> doi'm in the installation
[03:53] <blebaford> genii-around: says it's clean
[03:53] <crazyhorse> i'm in the installation wizard
[03:54] <djapo> 53/join  xmonad
[03:54] <dank101> crazyhorse, then No
[03:54] <crazyhorse> agh do i have to mount it to /boot?
[03:54] <dank101> no lol
[03:55] <genii-around> blebaford: OK, good. I'd like to see now more info on the video card. So: lspci -nn  ... and then just tell me the number code that appears like ( 8086:107d)   for the line where the VGA adapter is
[03:58] <blebaford> genii-around: [8086:0126]
[03:58] <genii-around> blebaford: I'll look it up, one minute please
[04:00] <genii-around> blebaford: Looks like maybe this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1140716
[04:02] <genii-around> blebaford: At any rate, should reboot, then when it hangs, get a console again, we will do some tidying up with apt-get to see if there is some issue with packages
[04:03] <blebaford> genii-around: well it says Fix released for Precise, which I'm running.
[04:05] <blebaford> genii-around: I'm also running version 3.5.0-23 which is not one of the ones mentioned in that bug report. Anyways back at a command prompt now.
[04:06] <genii-around> blebaford: OK. So to try: sudo apt-get -f install     ...and see if anything is pending to be installed
[04:11] <blebaford> genii-around: looks like nothing's pending. It's giving me just a list of packages that were automatically installed but are no longer required.
[04:12] <WeThePeople> headphones not working when i reboot, but from shutdown they work, any ideas
[04:12] <genii-around> blebaford: OK. So now we ensure all updates are done:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:14] <WeThePeople> alsa and pulse installed
[04:15] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  you mean you only hear the shutdown sounds?
[04:15] <phong_> hi guys
[04:15] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, no, my headphones work when i turn the laptop on
[04:15] <WeThePeople> and dont work when i reboot
[04:16] <genii-around> blebaford: I have to leave soon, it is 12:15am here and I'm still at work, so it's likely this may not get resolved tonight
[04:16] <dr_willis> so they only work when you 'cold boot' from a totally powered off state ?
[04:16] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, yes
[04:17] <betrayd> WeThePeople you didn't use alsactl save did you, somewhere in the boot process
[04:17] <WeThePeople> betrayed, idk
[04:17] <WeThePeople> where is that at
[04:18] <surt> I'm still having trouble booting newly installed kernel 3.5.0-31-generic. I get this error and the system won't respond to allow me to skip: unknown filesystem type reiserfs.
[04:18] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  that is a little strange..  i recall ages ago a similer issue - but that was like 10+ yrs ago.. ;) the soundcard was not getting reset/setup properly from a warm boot..
[04:18] <betrayd> no, that means you didn't have to actually put it in (edit a script or someth)
[04:18] <blebaford> genii-around: OK, should I try and get ahold of you some time later? How confident are you this issue can be resolved? apt-get update is taking some time btw.
[04:19] <dr_willis> surt:  you are using reiserfs ?
[04:19] <genii-around> blebaford: I'm here weekdays 9:30-ish AM to 5PM EST
[04:19] <surt> dr_willis: 3 of my HDDs are reiserfs.
[04:19] <surt> dr_willis: And they are listed in fstab.
[04:19] <genii-around> blebaford: I may be around tomorrow afternoon 4-7 my time
[04:19] <dr_willis> surt:  does an older kernel work properly? it sounds liek reiserfs is not  in the  problem kernel to me.
[04:20] <surt> dr_willis: kernel 3.5.0-17-generic works. But presumably because when the system was installed 5 days ago it was set up correctly.
[04:20] <genii-around> dr_willis: Maybe no reiser in initramfs modules
[04:20] <blebaford> genii-around: ok... what is the likelihood this issue can be resolved?
[04:21] <surt> genii-around: I think I read something about that, what cmd can I issue to check?
[04:21] <genii-around> blebaford: I'm hopeful it can be resolved
[04:21] <dr_willis> !modules
[04:22] <blebaford> genii-around: do you think it's possible that this was caused by me using MATE?
[04:22] <genii-around> surt: Whatever the module name is, to put it in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules      and then sudo update-initramfs -u
[04:22] <dr_willis> hmm.. theres that makeinitrd command.. but not sure  on the details
[04:22] <camilo> help me: genome terminal not working in xfce... I have ubuntu 13.04
[04:22] <genii-around> blebaford: I'm not sure what that is
[04:23] <surt> genii-around: Where would I find this module? Surely reiserfs would be included...it seems unlikely, being such a fast and secure fs?
[04:23] <blebaford> genii-around: it's an unsupported desktop environment... fork of Gnome 2.
[04:23] <genii-around> blebaford: Yes, that may have something to do with it
[04:23] <dr_willis> blebaford:  best advice.. stop using mate or cinnimon or other gnome2 forks..  teh newer gnome 3.8  has its own  gnome-2 mode that will most likely become the standard wayt o do a gnome-2 look
[04:23] <surt> Do I need to install an additional package?
[04:24] <genii-around> surt: No, no additional packages. Just as I said the initrd has no reiser module is the most likely thing.
[04:24]  * dr_willis hasent really heard much about reiserfs lately, or any real reasons to use it over the other fs's out there.
[04:24] <surt> Well what does a module look like and where do I find it?
[04:24] <surt> Not in the package "linux-image-extra-3.5.0-31-generic"?
[04:26] <blebaford> dr_willis: Seems like Linux Mint will continue to support MATE for quite some time... I really prefer the true Gnome 2 feel over gnome panel.
[04:26] <Ben64> gnome 2 is dead, deal with it
[04:26] <blebaford> genii-around: alright thanks for your help, I may return. get some sleep.
[04:26] <camilo> help me: genome terminal not working in xfce... I have ubuntu 13.04
[04:27] <genii-around> surt: The idea here is to make it always be added to the initrd ... so:  sudo nano /etc/initramfs-tools/modules     ... put at the bottom one line saying just:  reiserfs    ...then save and exit. Then you rebuild the initramfs with the reiser support by:  sudo update-initramfs -u
[04:27] <genii-around> surt: But I have to go, is late here. thats the general gist though
[04:27] <genii-around> blebaford: Night!
[04:27] <surt> Alright I'll give it a stab. Thank you.
[04:28] <blebaford> Ben64: I am dealing with it by using MATE.
[04:29] <blebaford> Ben64: It doesn't seem like a good attitude to stop supporting MATE in anticipation of its failure.
[04:31] <camilo> :-(
[04:33] <dr_willis> blebaford:  have you even tried the gnome2 mode in 3.8?
[04:33] <dr_willis> the main issue blebaford  is that MATE is not really sypporteed by this channel..
[04:34] <dr_willis> so we are not  'stopping support of mate' it has never been supported by us
[04:35] <camilo> help me:
[04:36] <camilo> :-)
[04:36] <lasers> blebaford: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MATE-Desktop -- It looks like Fedora supports MATE. :)
[04:36] <dr_willis> camilo:  give us details..
[04:36] <camilo> help me: genome terminal not working in xfce... I have ubuntu 13.04
[04:36] <dr_willis> camilo:  give us DETAILS
[04:36] <dr_willis> open a xfce-terminal and run it and see if any errors show up?
[04:36] <blebaford> dr_willis: it seemed like Ben64 was suggesting that I stop supporting MATE, so what I meant was that it doesn't seem right for *me* to stop supporting MATE simply because some people think it's days are numbered.
[04:37] <dr_willis> 'everything' has its days numbered. ;)
[04:37] <dr_willis> some are just a lot lower numbered then others.
[04:37] <borys> PUSI LOVERS
[04:39] <blebaford> lasers: I was aware. Might move over to the dark side or just back to Linux Mint...
[04:39] <camilo> genome terminal spear   black screen
[04:40] <dr_willis> camilo:  err. what is your native language?
[04:41] <camilo> spanish
[04:41] <blebaford> dr_willis: though I may checkout the gnome2 mode in 3.8... Is that different from the "Gnome Panel" that was available a few months ago?
[04:43] <clearview> i got ubuntu to install in virtual pc 2007, all works except usb network, thinking there may be a better vm now?
[04:44] <ObrienDave> try VirtualBox
[04:44] <dr_willis> blebaford:  i only used it for about 30 min,. and to be honesst. its been so long since ive last used gnome-2 - i dident even notice any differances that i can rember..
[04:45] <kexul> VirtualBox,good
[04:45] <dr_willis> blebaford:  main differance it its the ''official from gnome-devs' gnome2 mode/theme. so it will be avaiable in all the gnome-3 setups i imagine from 3.8+
[04:45] <dr_willis> !es | camilo
[04:47] <aznblur> Has anyone have a tiling window manager working with 13.04 without getting rid of the top Unity panel?
[04:47] <youngblackkid> Has anyone have a tiling window manager working with 13.04 without getting rid of the top Unity panel?
[04:47] <camilo> gracias :-/  chanel ubuntu-es is empty
[04:47] <youngblackkid> gracias :-/  chanel ubuntu-es is empty
[04:47] <blebaford> dr_willis: alright thanks for the info. Probably will just go to Linux Mint w/ MATE but I'll keep the option in mind.
[04:47] <youngblackkid> dr_willis: alright thanks for the info. Probably will just go to Linux Mint w/ MATE but I'll keep the option in mind.
[04:47] <camilo> no hlp me in ubuntu-es
[04:47] <youngblackkid> no hlp me in ubuntu-es
[04:48] <dr_willis> aznblur:  since unity is a plugin for compiz, im not sure thats possible
[04:48] <youngblackkid> aznblur:  since unity is a plugin for compiz, im not sure thats possible
[04:48] <sam113101> yo llevo una falda roja
[04:48] <youngblackkid> yo llevo una falda roja
[04:49] <camilo> you speak in spanish
[04:49] <camilo> ?
[04:49] <camilo> help me
[04:49] <youngblackkid> you speak in spanish
[04:49] <youngblackkid> ?
[04:49] <youngblackkid> help me
[04:49] <ObrienDave> oh geez, a 9 year old playing repeater
[04:49] <youngblackkid> cierras tus ojos y abre tu boca
[04:49] <aznblur> dr_willis, youngblackkid: oh, that's annoying, i'd like to keep the top panel
[04:49] <dr_willis> poor troll is poor
[04:49] <youngblackkid> te voya dar ayuda en un momento
[04:50] <camilo> ok thanks
[04:52] <dr_willis> aznblur:  i might have seen some guides on getting  the 'global menu panel' working in xfce. but i never really looked at them.
[04:52] <dr_willis> there might be a way to adapt that method to other wm's
[04:53] <aznblur> dr_willis: cheers, i'll have a dig
[04:53] <camilo> my gnome terminal no cursor, can not write, is only black screen
[04:53] <dr_willis> camilo:  try changeing its thermes/profile/colors?
[04:53] <ObrienDave> camilo, change the colors
[04:53] <dr_willis> therme
[04:53] <dr_willis> theme
[04:55] <camilo> hooooo.. this is magi
[04:55] <camilo> mgc
[04:55] <camilo> magic
[04:55] <ObrienDave> we got it :))
[04:55] <camilo> thank you
[04:56] <ObrienDave> por nada
[04:56] <camilo> jajajaj
[04:56] <camilo> :-D
[04:57] <dr_willis> black text on black background - poor  for reading.. ;)
[04:57] <dr_willis> use hot pink, on fusha...
[04:58] <ObrienDave> amazing how hard it is to read when foreground and background colors are the same LOL
[04:58] <aznblur> dr_willis: I think I'll just install xfce4 and get xmonad working with that then
[04:58] <dr_willis> unless you 'select'all the text to invert it. ;)
[04:58] <camilo> to dream with woman angel... I'm happy good nigth
[04:59] <camilo> master
[04:59] <camilo> bye
[05:00] <ObrienDave> had a friend tell me once, all the files had disappeared from the file requester window. guess what the problem was LMAO
[05:00] <dr_willis> everytime i ever try a 'dark' theme - i  always seem to get unreadable txt somewhere
[05:00] <ObrienDave> yup :)
[05:01] <dr_willis> whats really sad is i  recall such neat  'theme'  features on my old old old amiga and the 'MUI'  widget/libraries...
[05:01] <ObrienDave> why, oh why, do they insist on 90% gray on a black background???
[05:01] <ItsMeLenny> it
[05:01] <dr_willis> seems we are constantly reinventing the  wrong parts of the gui.
[05:02] <ItsMeLenny> it's because everything is so sperate
[05:02] <ItsMeLenny> separate*
[05:02] <ObrienDave> oh geez, i sitll have my Amiga 1000 from 1985 LMAO
[05:02] <ItsMeLenny> theres no one location for everything to choose text colour from, or font, etc tec
[05:02] <ItsMeLenny> i have my first computer, its not that old tho, 386, 1994?
[05:03] <dr_willis> ObrienDave:  i finally got rid of all mine.. just to much junk to keep around.
[05:03] <ObrienDave> keeping mine for 'posterity' LOL
[05:03] <dr_willis> my android phone can emulate  the amiga and be 10000x faster at doing it.. ;l)
[05:04] <ObrienDave> oh, i'm sure. nothing like firing it up with the 'kickstart' disk :)
[05:04] <ItsMeLenny> dr_willis, i just dumped my 2nd computer, and a whole heap of other stuff, ewaste, they should get recycled for most part, although it terribly upsets me everytime a think about it
[05:05] <dr_willis> all these failed os's from my past.. make me  a cynic with new stuff. ;)
[05:05] <dr_willis> great features from AmigaOS and BeOS and even GeOS  - tossed out.
[05:06] <ObrienDave> like OS2 warp???
[05:07] <dr_willis> never eally messed with Os2 - but i really miss the idea of 'rexx' ports in apps from amigaos. and beos's use of meta-data  along with the files actual data for  some interesting features.
[05:09] <ObrienDave> could be worse, could still have my VIC-20 lol
[05:11] <dr_willis> got rid of avic20  2yrs ago
[05:12] <ObrienDave> boat anchor???
[05:13] <dr_willis> it worked. gave it to a ham radio guy  for his morese code station
[05:14] <ObrienDave> cool. MANY years ago, i knew a merchant marine. he used a VIC-20 to measure torque on the propeller shaft
[05:15] <youngblackkid> are merchant marines civilians
[05:15] <youngblackkid> i still dont know
[05:15] <ObrienDave> yes, sort of
[05:18] <recursion> oops, i'm installing 11.10
[05:19] <ashish_> my system takes too much time in shutdown after installing xfce in ubuntu13.04
[05:19] <Ben64> recursion: 11.10 is no longer supported, choose a newer version
[05:19] <mordonez> Hi guys, I am having troubles with the sound card
[05:19] <mordonez> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=840587802ca0f3f1d19751fa20cabe5b6cb0db89
[05:19] <mordonez> that is my alsa report
[05:19] <FloodBot1> mordonez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:21] <crazyhorse> hey
[05:21] <Guest63193> Hi, I'm getting an unmet dependencies error on 12.04:
[05:21] <Guest63193> linux-image-generic-pae : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae but it is not installed
[05:21] <crazyhorse> i've tried installing ubuntu 12.04 3 times now and i can not get it too boot
[05:22] <crazyhorse> after i install i always get "Reboot and Select proper Boot device"
[05:22] <ashish_> my system takes too much time in shutdown after installing xfce in ubuntu13.04
[05:22] <Guest63193> but apt-get -f install does not work: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:22] <crazyhorse> I assumed it would just be like windows.. i.e. stick the usb stick in.. click next next next.. reboot
[05:23] <lasers> crazyhorse: How did you install? Via netcat? Details, please. Disc? USB? Ran md5sum?
[05:23] <crazyhorse> laser: Usb
[05:23] <crazyhorse> lasers: ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.img.dmg installed to usb disk
[05:23] <lasers> crazyhorse: DMG is for mac.
[05:23] <crazyhorse> yes that's correct
[05:23] <Ben64> Guest63193: pastebin the whole thing, also... "uname -a" and  "lsb_release -r"
[05:23] <crazyhorse> i built the USB stick on a mac
[05:24] <crazyhorse> I then boot from the USB
[05:24] <mordonez> This is right place to ask for sound card help?
[05:24] <mordonez> When I plug my headphones
[05:24] <lasers> crazyhorse: You did something like this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[05:24] <crazyhorse> create an ext4 partition of 200,000 with a mount point of / and a swap partition of 2000mb
[05:24] <mordonez> the sound stills goes for the speakers
[05:24] <crazyhorse> lasers: yeah that exact guide
[05:25] <crazyhorse> the usb boots fine... i can get into the ubuntu live.. it goes through the entire install procedure, it spend 20 mins downloading all the updates
[05:25] <crazyhorse> and then when i reboot it's like it can find the master boot loader (like grub or whatever)
[05:25] <betrayd> can or can't
[05:25] <crazyhorse> sorry can't
[05:26] <Guest63193> Ben64: thanks, just running..
[05:26] <lasers> crazyhorse: You tried it three times? So basically you converted/dd to usb 3 times?
[05:26] <crazyhorse> lasers: no
[05:26] <crazyhorse> i've tried installing it 3 times
[05:26] <crazyhorse> like i said the USB works fine
[05:26] <crazyhorse> if the USB didn't load, or came up with some corruption message i would try redoing the USB
[05:26] <ashish_> my system takes too much time in shutdown after installing xfce in ubuntu13.04. please help anybody
[05:27] <Guest63193> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/0e2Xwnsf
[05:27] <crazyhorse> I had assumed it's because i was setting up custom partitions that caused it not too boot
[05:27] <lasers> crazyhorse: Okay. I'm asking because I had non-mac-related experiences installing via USB. USB sometimes will install grub to the usb drive instead of hard drive.
[05:27] <crazyhorse> lasers: ohhhh
[05:28] <crazyhorse> :/
[05:28] <crazyhorse> right
[05:28] <crazyhorse> yeah the device is showing up as /dev/sdb in the partitioning menu
[05:28] <Or1on> settings for several desktop applications seem to be gone. I have a folder called u on my home folder with several folders with names of applications. has anyone seen anything like this? it just happened today
[05:28] <Ben64> Guest63193: sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae
[05:29] <crazyhorse> lasers: in the partitioning menu there is a option "Device for boot loader installation"  i've got it set to the SSD
[05:30] <lasers> crazyhorse: The usb device? Are you sure? Certainty? I stick to manual point where the hard drive is. Need to remember where the hard drive is in partition menu. Other than that, I don't know.
[05:30] <Guest63193> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/PK3U6zE8
[05:30] <crazyhorse> i'll try a 4th time :/
[05:31] <lasers> crazyhorse: Bad grammar. Make note of the SSD path and USB path. At end of installation, it asks about grub. Don't do it automatically. Select where the hard drive is. Hope for the best.
[05:32] <lasers> crazyhorse: (and if it had md5sum, run that. Only few minutes to ensure that it's not bad)
[05:32] <crazyhorse> ok
[05:33] <recursion> any heard of dht crawling by Scott Wolchok?
[05:34] <Ben64> Guest63193: try deleting the file from /var/cache/apt/archives and try again
[05:34] <mordonez> Hi guys, anyone can help me with my headphones problem?
[05:34] <mordonez> I just can't get my headphones working
[05:35] <mordonez> when I plug them in the sound still outputs for speakers
[05:35] <Guest63193> Ben64: same result unfortunately (thanks for the help btw)
[05:36] <Ben64> Guest63193: same same? error unpacking?
[05:36] <cockatrice> Hey, when I try to install any package, it gives me crap about oracle-java7-installer because the sha256sum wasn't the same when it downloaded it
[05:37] <cockatrice> Is there any way I can get it to stop saying that? I tried to uninstall it but it wouldn't do that eitehr.
[05:37] <cockatrice> *either
[05:37] <ObrienDave> cockatrice, probably a bad d/l. try again
[05:37] <cockatrice> I've done it three times
[05:38] <galtamiche> your welkomm
[05:39] <cockatrice> Oh wait. I'm no expert but I looked more into the results it was giving and it looks like the page it's trying to download from isn't the right one.
[05:39] <Guest63193> Ben64: here's the result: http://pastebin.com/78yfRL7U
[05:39] <ObrienDave> cockatrice, try using 'fix broken packages' with synaptic
[05:39] <cockatrice> It got a response in text/html but it saved it as a .tar.gz. Is there any way to make it stop trying to download it?
[05:40] <cockatrice> Thanks, ObrienDave
[05:41] <galtamiche> !list
[05:41] <galtamiche> !alis
[05:42] <mordonez> Guys anyone that can help me with the sound problems?
[05:42] <ObrienDave> ask again, sorry
[05:42] <recursion> bot, you're not exactly DeepBlue are ya?
[05:43] <ObrienDave> not even close LOL
[05:44] <crazyhorse> is there anyway i can get ubuntu NOT to download anything during the install
[05:44] <betrayd> more like a cyan
[05:44] <ObrienDave> yes, don't check 'install updates during install'
[05:44] <mordonez> WHen I plug the headphones the sound stills outputs through speakers
[05:44] <histo> crazyhorse: don't check updates during install or unplug the cable
[05:45] <histo> mordonez: jack sense isn't working or enabled
[05:45] <crazyhorse> lol. yeah i didn't check it
[05:45] <rohitsz> crazyhorse: disconnect your system from the internet! :-)
[05:45] <ObrienDave> mordonez, sounds like a bad headphone jack
[05:45] <crazyhorse> again!
[05:45] <crazyhorse> jesus
[05:45] <crazyhorse> i can't get this to install
[05:46] <crazyhorse> whatever i do
[05:46] <crazyhorse> it will not boot
[05:46] <FloodBot1> crazyhorse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <ObrienDave> what system are you trying to install with? win8?
[05:46] <betrayd> gnite everyone
[05:46] <crazyhorse> From a USB
[05:47] <ObrienDave> what is already on the comp?
[05:47] <crazyhorse> nothing
[05:47] <Or1on> my /home/[USER]/.config seemed to have been erased or moved to /home/[user]/u has anyone seen this happen?
[05:47] <crazyhorse> and everytime i redo it, i repartition the drive
[05:47] <Or1on> most of my desktop settings seem to be gone
[05:47] <ObrienDave> it is a blank, virgin hard drive?
[05:47] <crazyhorse> 200gb Ext4 / 2gb swap  ... ext4 mounted to /     i then select the SSD to boot form
[05:48] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: It was the first time, the 2nd, 3rd and 4th times i repartitioned
[05:48] <ObrienDave> how much RAM on comp?
[05:48] <crazyhorse> and ticked the format box
[05:48] <crazyhorse> 32gb
[05:48] <recursion> removing the usb after the install?
[05:48] <ObrienDave> make the swap file same size as memory
[05:49] <Or1on> i'm going to try something. brb
[05:49] <Guest63193> I'm getting dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae_3.2.0-41.66_i386.deb whenever I try to upgrade my ubuntu server, I have tried apt-get clean, is anyone able to help?
[05:49] <crazyhorse> 32gb of swap??
[05:49] <ObrienDave> yes
[05:49] <crazyhorse> it's too big
[05:49] <crazyhorse> i've only got 256gb SSD
[05:49] <crazyhorse> this is a boot issue, why do i need 32gb of swap
[05:49] <lasers> ObrienDave: Mac too.
[05:50] <mordonez> What can I do to make it work ObrienDave ?
[05:51] <crazyhorse> ohh i got it too boot
[05:51] <ObrienDave> mordonez, get the physical jack fixed
[05:51] <crazyhorse> shit.. it's still the USB drive
[05:52] <lasers> crazyhorse: You boot it?
[05:52] <crazyhorse> nah.. it booted of the USB
[05:52] <crazyhorse> i take the USB out and it's back to Reboot and Select proper Boot Device
[05:52] <mordonez> but how you are sure the physical is bad?
[05:52] <Guest63193> how can I force a filesystem check on all filesystems on boot?
[05:52] <lasers> crazyhorse: ... Plug the USB in and reboot.
[05:52] <mordonez> why it can't be the software?
[05:53] <histo> Guest63193: with fsck
[05:53] <crazyhorse> lasers: ok doing that now
[05:53] <crazyhorse> ok it boots straight away
[05:53] <lasers> crazyhorse: When it boot up, you're at installation or just straight to Ubuntu?
[05:53] <Guest63193> histo: thanks but how?
[05:53] <crazyhorse> lasers: straight into ubuntu.. with a do you want to install ubuntu or try ubuntu
[05:53] <ObrienDave> mordonez, the jack has a physical switch built in that disconnects the speakers.
[05:54] <Or1on> I got my settings back by moving the folders from u to .config I still don't know why this happened. I just hope no one is playing with my computer
[05:54] <histo> Guest63193: which drive or directory is the drive mounted to?
[05:54] <lasers> crazyhorse: Try Ubuntu. "sudo fdisk -l"
[05:54] <lasers> (In the terminal0
[05:54] <lasers> )
[05:54] <crazyhorse> yep
[05:54] <histo> Guest63193: you can touch /forcefsck  to check root on the next reboot. Or you can shutdown -rF now
[05:54] <mordonez> but when I connect the sound mutes
[05:55] <mordonez> but when I volume up the sound is still output from the speakers
[05:55] <mordonez> so
[05:55] <Guest63193> histo: thanks
[05:55] <crazyhorse> lasers: ok it doesn't show the SSD
[05:55] <mordonez> when the headphone is connected the system can detect it
[05:55] <cebor> how can i access a windows share via the console? i just authanticaed and mounted the share via my nautilus
[05:56] <ObrienDave> mordonez, ok, switch is working. try the volume controls. headphones are on a different control
[05:56] <Parsi> can i create a system image of ubuntu?
[05:56] <mordonez> yeah I am trying that
[05:56] <mordonez> let's hope I can find something
[05:56] <mordonez> brb I have to reboot
[05:57] <crazyhorse> lasers: http://goo.gl/MWFG7
[05:57] <ObrienDave> Parsi, yes you can
[05:58] <Parsi> ObrienDave: i'm talking about my ubuntu on VMware
[05:58] <Parsi> i want to restore it in real computer
[05:58] <Parsi> a real machine
[05:58] <Fudge> not sure vmware supports that feature
[05:58] <lasers> crazyhorse: Oic. At least we're getting somewhere.
[05:59] <lasers> What is /dev/sda?
[05:59] <Senjai_> I'm having a hard time finding where the default file extensions on my system are stored
[05:59] <Senjai_> file associations*
[05:59] <Ben64> Parsi: you can get a drive image from vmware with some vmware tools
[05:59] <ObrienDave> hmm, not sure about that.
[05:59] <Senjai_> defaults.list and mimeapps.list dont exist
[05:59] <Senjai_> in /usr/share/applications/
[05:59] <crazyhorse> lasers: it is a Plextor 256GB SSD
[05:59] <lasers> Senjai_: ~/.local/share/applications/omg
[05:59] <Fudge> lasers:  most likely your hard drive
[05:59] <ObrienDave> lasers: main partition of first hard drive
[06:00] <ObrienDave> lasers: would then be divided into sda1, sda2, etc.
[06:00] <Guest63193> Ben64: that is so strange, I have just re-run sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae for about the 6th time and it's worked
[06:00] <Fudge> sda is the drive itself
[06:00] <crazyhorse> lasers: /dev/sda1 is a 186.26GB ext4 partition (5.54gb) used.  /dev/sda2 is linux-swap (1.86gb)
[06:00] <crazyhorse> unallocated 50.35gb
[06:00] <lasers> Fudge: Thank you. :)
[06:01] <Senjai_> oh, .local
[06:01] <Senjai_> Thank you
[06:01] <lasers> Fudge: (I was having that question to crazyhorse ;))
[06:01] <Fudge> np lasers
[06:01] <lasers> asking*
[06:01] <lasers> Senjai_: Np
[06:01] <Fudge> understood
[06:01] <crazyhorse> I've opened up gparted and it does not have the boot flag ticked.. should it?
[06:02] <ObrienDave> yes, you want it to show /
[06:02] <lasers> Fudge: Maybe you want to figure out why crazyhorse can't install Ubuntu on his Mac via USB. ;)
[06:02] <crazyhorse> lasers: it's not a mac
[06:02] <lasers> crazyhorse: You said it was?
[06:03] <crazyhorse> no i didn't.. i said i create the USB disk from a mac
[06:03] <lasers> crazyhorse: Ah. And the empty machine isn't mac?
[06:03] <crazyhorse> it's a Z77 chipset with a I5-3570
[06:03] <crazyhorse> nah standard pc hardware
[06:03] <lasers> crazyhorse: Just use normal ISO. :)
[06:04] <histo> crazyhorse: I missed your original issue... What are you trying to do?
[06:04] <crazyhorse> i think i am using the normal ISO
[06:04] <crazyhorse> histo: install ubuntu on a pc
[06:04] <crazyhorse> empty pc
[06:04] <lasers> crazyhorse: I'm checking.
[06:04] <histo> crazyhorse: via what?
[06:04] <ObrienDave> not if the extension is DMG
[06:04] <crazyhorse> histo: via a USB disk
[06:04] <histo> crazyhorse: what's the issue?
[06:04] <crazyhorse> histo: after installation, it will not boot
[06:04] <Fudge> mac images require 64bit image dont they?
[06:05] <crazyhorse> just to make it very clear.. i am NOT installing this on a mac.. a mac is just the laptop i'm using to chat to you guys while i setup these machines :)
[06:05] <histo> Fudge: some mac's have a 32bit efi but are 64bit machines. You have to use some jacked up refi something or other to get it to even boot
[06:05] <histo> crazyhorse: What happens after the install and reboot?
[06:05] <crazyhorse> it's says "insert correct boot media and reboot" or something like that
[06:06] <crazyhorse> i.e. what you get when there is no boot-loader
[06:06] <Parsi> Ben64: i want to move my ubuntu from vmware to physical partition (i'm using mac)
[06:06] <cockatrice> Okay, I still can't remove oracle-java7-installer. I installed synaptic to use the fix broken packages feature but it didn't wokr.
[06:06] <crazyhorse> i've also try to resintall 4 times and I am using custom partitions
[06:06] <Fudge> crazyhorse  so what is the machine you are installing to? does it have uefi?
[06:06] <crazyhorse> Fudge: i'm pretty sure it does
[06:07] <recursion> i think he downloaded a pc version of ubunto to the mac and used something to write it to his thumb drive, ya?
[06:07] <histo> crazyhorse: Are you installing the 64bit version or 32bit version of ubuntu?
[06:07] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: what is the extension of the file you installed on the USB?
[06:07] <Fudge> so you want a 64 bit image anyway, which partition scheme are you using
[06:07] <crazyhorse> histo: 64 bit
[06:07] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: following the guide i started with ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:07] <histo> crazyhorse: did you install grub to the mbr of the hard drive when you installed ubuntu?  Or are you using efi?
[06:07] <crazyhorse> then i used DD to create ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.img.dmg
[06:07] <ObrienDave> cool
[06:08] <Fudge> as histo  asked
[06:08] <crazyhorse> sorry i used some other conversion tool to create ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.img.dmg and then i used dd to create it to the drive
[06:08] <histo> crazyhorse: why?  you could just have dd'ed the iso to the thumb drive.
[06:08] <ObrienDave> NO!!!! just install the iso to USB
[06:08] <Fudge> thats not the problem, its how you are installing it, the image boots live
[06:08] <histo> Fudge: shouldn't matter
[06:08] <Fudge> crazyhorse  you said custom partitioning? so what did yo uspecify including boot loader
[06:08] <ObrienDave> Fudge: it only matters for dual boot
[06:09] <crazyhorse> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx << ObrienDave: i was following this guide
[06:09] <histo> ObrienDave: It doesn't matter in his case.
[06:09] <Fudge> ObrienDave  for example if he installed grub to sda5?
[06:09] <crazyhorse> Fudge: ion the installation it asks me which drive i want the boot loader on
[06:09] <histo> crazyhorse: What "custom" partitions are you creating?
[06:09] <crazyhorse> i specified the plextor
[06:09] <ObrienDave> that is for installing on a MAC
[06:09] <crazyhorse> histo:  a 200gb Ext4 and a 2gb swap
[06:09] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: Ohhhh
[06:09] <histo> crazyhorse: what is the plextor?
[06:09] <Fudge> mate why not start fresh and use the entire drive, use guided
[06:09] <crazyhorse> Fudge: i want to dual boot into windows later
[06:10] <lasers> crazyhorse: No spare discs, right?
[06:10] <Fudge> if you dont mind wiping the drive, you may be making things to complicated for yourself
[06:10] <Fudge> oh crazyhorse  so windows is already installeD?
[06:10] <crazyhorse> no windows is not installed
[06:10] <pero_p> hi
[06:10] <Fudge> well go do that first, then install ubuntu along side
[06:10] <EmLeX> is it just me or is the ubuntu kernels coming so often
[06:10] <crazyhorse> i don't have time to setup windows.. i don't even have it.. i just want to setup ubuntu
[06:11] <Fudge> run a vm of windows possibly then
[06:11] <pero_p> which library i should include in gcc to compile libflac? i tried -lflac but no luck!
[06:11] <histo> crazyhorse: What is the plextor you are installing grub to? is that the disk you are installing ubuntu to?
[06:11] <Fudge> so crazyhorse  install to the entire drive, report if a guided partioning scheme still does not boot
[06:11] <crazyhorse> histo: that's the disk.. i'm not doing any manual installation of grub
[06:11] <crazyhorse> it's a 256GB SSD
[06:12] <crazyhorse> Fudge: yeah.. but i don't want to use up the entire drive
[06:12] <crazyhorse> because then i can't install windows later
[06:12] <histo> crazyhorse: make sure you are installing grub to the mbr of the 256GB SSD
[06:12] <histo> crazyhorse: unless you have efi booting machine
[06:12] <crazyhorse> histo: in the installation i don't think it even mentions crub
[06:12] <crazyhorse> grub
[06:12] <crazyhorse> ah yeah
[06:12] <histo> crazyhorse: it should at the end. unless they've changed it.
[06:12] <BadPerson> Hey guys. I'm having some problems with 13.04 and partition handling. First, changes don't appear in disks; Deletes, additions, changes, new drives and removed drives don't show up. Second, New drives don't show up in the system and disconnected drives never disappear.
[06:12] <crazyhorse> this motherboard is a UEFI bios
[06:13] <BadPerson> My system drive is an SSD if it matters at all.
[06:13] <crazyhorse> histo: it doesn't mention it at all
[06:13] <histo> crazyhorse: well for that to work you need to boot the installation media in efi mode.
[06:13] <histo> !efi | crazyhorse
[06:13] <bignob> Hey, I have some problems with youtube
[06:13] <histo> crazyhorse: also you will need a /boot partition to hold the efi stuff
[06:14] <crazyhorse> i'm so confused
[06:14] <bignob> 1. If I am watching a youtube video on fullscreen, after about 10mins the screen goes black and I have to type my password in again
[06:14] <bignob> so annoying
[06:14] <crazyhorse> shouldn't this be stick it.. next next next install?
[06:14] <ObrienDave> that would be your screensaver settings
[06:14] <histo> bignob: turn off screen blanking
[06:14] <bignob> histo: how do I do this
[06:14] <histo> crazyhorse: depends how your efi is set. Read the page from ubottu
[06:15] <crazyhorse> k
[06:15] <BadPerson> bignob: Changing your screensaver settings will work, as will jiggling your mouse every so often.
[06:15] <bignob> ok I gfound the option
[06:15] <histo> crazyhorse: typically it should be next next install. But if you have some jacked up setting it won't. Or if you delete the boot partition it wants to create
[06:15] <bignob> but I think if a movie is playing full screen it shouldn't lock
[06:15] <ObrienDave> bignob: settings, screensaver
[06:15] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: are you sure i used the wrong image. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx   this just looks like its about creating generic bootable usb sticks?
[06:15] <histo> bignob: agree but it is for some reason.
[06:16] <crazyhorse> histo: ok
[06:16] <pizzadude> Hi. Does anyone know what this changelog for the precise kernel means? "UBUNTU: Update *current* to reference Raring"
[06:16] <BadPerson> bignob: If you are using the movie player, it actually won't sleep, ever. But Flash doesn't have a way to tell the OS that media is playing.
[06:16] <histo> crazyhorse: you just need to use the 64bit image of anything 12.04+ for EFI to work and need a /boot partition formatted fat32 which you don't have. Because of your "custom" options.
[06:16] <pizzadude> does that mean they are backporting changes from raring?
[06:16] <lasers> bignob: It's a web browser, not a media player. Some media player will inhibit.
[06:16] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: the mistake is you converted it to MAC format. the ISO works fine on a PC
[06:16] <recursion> screensaver only consider input like mouse and keyboard as sign of activity
[06:17] <bignob> In windows it works
[06:17] <ShawnMcCool> ubuntu popped up a 'you should upgrade this software window' (13.04) and i said ok, then restarted. now every time i boot it's to a black screen with a blinking white text cursor and a white mouse cursor. i cant switch to another terminal but, no matter how many times i reboot it's the same.
[06:17] <histo> pizzadude: for added hardware support the raring kernel was pushed back. You don't have to use it though.
[06:17] <ItsMeLenny> is there a way to compile and install something and have the package manager recognise it"
[06:17] <bignob> Windows doesn't lock qhile you are watching FS youtube
[06:17] <ObrienDave> bignob: you are NOT running windows
[06:17] <silv3r_m00n> I have 2 internet connections available, 1 is a wired adsl broadband, another is a cdma mobile broadband, when i switch from mobile to adsl, i am able to ping any ip, but ping google.com does not work, I have to restart the system, tried adding nameservers to /etc/resolv.conf but still it does not work unless the system is restarted, what could be the reason ?
[06:17] <crazyhorse> ObrianDave: i'm on a mac.. right.. and i need to get the thing onto a USB drive.. considering the entire USB is bootable on the PC.. i don't see what the issue is
[06:17] <pizzadude> newer kernels tend to break my wireless
[06:18] <silv3r_m00n> the connection is switched using the gnome network applet
[06:18] <pizzadude> or make it crappier
[06:18] <crazyhorse> histo: what's the advantage of this EFI stuff?
[06:18] <crazyhorse> secureboot?
[06:18] <bignob> Yeah but it's a prtty basic feature maybe linux will implement it in 2020
[06:18] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: the PC you are trying to install to will NOT read the mac format
[06:19] <Ben64> bignob: except flash is dying
[06:19] <bignob> ok, the next problem is, I've got 2 monitors and my display extended across both, if I have youtube fullscreened in one monitor
[06:19] <bignob> then I click on the browser in the other monitor, it cancels the fullscreen
[06:19] <bignob> really annoying
[06:19] <crazyhorse> ObrianDave: I think your confused.  This page is about install a ubuntu live usb on a mac http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[06:19] <bignob> I like to watch a movie ine one monitor wile I browse in the other
[06:19] <crazyhorse> it has nothing about having to use that USB on a mac after you've created it
[06:20] <bignob> how do I fix that
[06:20] <bazhang> !checkinstall | ItsMeLenny
[06:20] <Ben64> bignob: stop using youtube and flash?
[06:20] <EmLeX> Ben64: wins the best answer of the day award
[06:20] <bignob> Yep. So I use linux so I need to change the websites I visit  because linux can't handle them
[06:20] <aznblur> bignob: I had the same problem and just used vlc to watch youtube videos
[06:20] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: you are trying to install ubuntu on a PC not a MAC, correct?
[06:20] <bignob> great suggestion
[06:20] <recursion> pray flash dies faster and they finish the html5 beta
[06:20] <bignob> how can I use vlc to watch youtube?
[06:21] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: yes
[06:21] <Ben64> bignob: download the videos from youtube and play em in mplayer
[06:21] <aznblur> bignob: ctrl+n, paste in youtube linx
[06:21] <aznblur> *link
[06:21] <ItsMeLenny> ah, thanks bazhang i'll look into it
[06:21] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: then do NOT convert the ISO to DMG
[06:21] <bignob> ctrl+n makes a new window
[06:21] <aznblur> In settings, advanced, if you go to Input / Codec, you can set the default quality
[06:21] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: there is no DMG on the USB stick
[06:21] <recursion> youtube gives me an option to view in html5 or flash on some videos
[06:21] <ItsMeLenny> at the same time i have found some deb packages, how do i find out if im on 12.04.2 or 12.04.4
[06:22] <lasers> bignob: Try extension or scripts that will stretch the video instead of flash's full-screen feature.
[06:22] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: i have a "working" 64bit live usb disk with which to do with it..  the fact i created it on the mac i don't think should make a difference
[06:22] <Ben64> ItsMeLenny: lsb_release -d
[06:22] <ItsMeLenny> recursion, http://www.youtube.com/html5
[06:22] <crazyhorse> the guide i pasted is how you setup usb sticks on a mac
[06:22] <ItsMeLenny> thanks Ben64
[06:22] <crazyhorse> not for a mac
[06:22] <Ben64> crazyhorse: no, its for mac
[06:22] <crazyhorse> really :/
[06:22] <Ben64> yes really
[06:22] <ObrienDave> ok, sorry, the 'live' part boot fine, yes?
[06:22] <bignob> well that sux so there's no reasonable solution
[06:22] <ItsMeLenny> hmm i'm on .2
[06:22] <aznblur> bignob: media -> open network stream
[06:23] <crazyhorse> documentation needs to be worded more carefully then it says "›Create a bootable USB stick on OS X"
[06:23] <recursion> doesnt matter where u made if you got it to go through the installation
[06:23] <EmLeX> aznblur: i did actually not know you could just take a youtube url and past it into vlc. its so mutch more stable lol
[06:23] <Ben64> crazyhorse: it's fairly clear
[06:23] <EmLeX> thank you
[06:23] <bignob> what is the default video player for ubuntu
[06:23] <Ben64> totem i think
[06:23] <bignob> Ok cool
[06:24] <crazyhorse> Ben64: it's not at all clear.. from the title it makes it sound like "if you want to create an ubuntu live usb" and you happen to what to create the usb from a mac.. use this guide
[06:24] <bignob> it works in totem guys
[06:24] <aznblur> EmLeX: yep! no crazy CPU usage as well. Go to Input / Codecs in advanced options to set default quality
[06:24] <histo> crazyhorse: even on a mac the iso files are hybrid files now. So you can just dd the iso to the usb stick and boot it in another machine.
[06:24] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: does the USB boot into 'live' mode now???
[06:24] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: yes
[06:24] <recursion> ya, youtube dont want you to miss out on their ads by using videolan
[06:24] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: and it runs the installer fine
[06:24] <bignob> but fast forward doesn't work very well
[06:24] <bignob> I have adblock o nfirfox anyway
[06:24] <histo> Is the server kernel any different from the desktop now?  I just want to install a friggen cli system and the mini.iso is hanging.
[06:24] <lasers> bignob: Stupid hack is to make a xdotool script that will move your mouse a bit every 5 minutes. Boom! No blank screen. :O
[06:24] <Ben64> i find it easier to just download youtube vids
[06:25] <bignob> lasers: well you can turn off lock the screen in the settings
[06:25] <bignob> but I want it to lock if there is no movie playing
[06:25] <riddrib> How can remote pc in ubunut?
[06:25] <bignob> just if there is a movie playing it shouldn't lck
[06:25] <bignob> i watch the movie from my bed so it is annoying to get up
[06:25] <Ben64> riddrib: ssh
[06:25] <EmLeX> aznblur: im there but where do i set def quality
[06:26] <lasers> bignob: If you can disable screensaver via commands, then make aliases so you don't have to change settings every time you want to watch a movie.
[06:26] <EmLeX> nvm found it
[06:27] <bignob> i'll just set it to 1hour
[06:27] <Braden`> Hello
[06:27] <Braden`> I am using VirtualBox, and I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 as my guest OS, and installed the VBoxGuestAdditions, but whenever I try to boot into xwindows, I just see a flashing blank cursor and nothing else.  How do I fix this?
[06:28] <ObrienDave> *head spinning, need smoke break*
[06:28]  * ObrienDave is away: Snoozin
[06:29] <Parsi> ObrienDave: can i make a disk image and restore it to another machine?
[06:31] <recursion> vmware could be considered way beyone the scope of ubuntuhelp
[06:31] <Braden`> If anyone said anything, I missed it
[06:31] <Braden`> Got disconnected
[06:34] <ObrienDave> Parsi, i would think so. not sure how to, though
[06:37] <cristian_c> Hi
[06:37] <cristian_c> There is a mysterious problem with my laptop. I mean, when I run the suspension, after the restore there are problems. The first of which is that the Chromium browser will no longer open (but it also does with Chrome) and if you launch it from the terminal, an error is returned.
[06:38] <first-time-here> hi
[06:38] <crazyhorse> if i install ubuntu.. can i repartition the drive later to make room for windows without deleting anything?
[06:38] <cristian_c> Also, when I try to logout or reboot the pc freezes, meaning that when I try to restart, the screen goes black and hangs there indefinitely (in the case of the log, it appears the shell with the messages, but it hangs too) and I have to brutally shut down the pc.
[06:38] <cristian_c> I tried several solutions, from uswsusp to tuxonice, to create a special file in /etc/pm/config.d/, but these attempts have not been successful. I also checked the syslog, but also did not provide significant information about the origin of the problem
[06:38] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[06:39] <first-time-here> i'm trying to compile Samplicate and i'm not sure if i'm do it ok, this is what i get http://pastebin.com/NxmKadaH
[06:39] <ItsMeLenny> cristian_c, there are ways to repartition the drive later, but it has the potential of corrupting data
[06:39] <cristian_c> ItsMeLenny, I don't undestand
[06:39] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: there is a utility to do that. don't remember the name
[06:40] <cristian_c> *understand
[06:40] <recursion> search ubuntu shrink partition?
[06:40] <cristian_c> ItsMeLenny, I've got problems with suspension
[06:40] <ItsMeLenny> cristian_c, whats not to understand
[06:40] <ItsMeLenny> "can i repartition the drive later to make room for windows without deleting anything"
[06:40] <cristian_c> ItsMeLenny, I've not to repart my drive
[06:41] <cristian_c> ItsMeLenny, my partitons are good :)
[06:41] <ObrienDave> Lenny, that was crazyhorse who asked that question
[06:41] <cristian_c> *partitions
[06:41] <recursion> to nick that begin with cr
[06:42] <recursion> two*
[06:42] <histo> recursion: you can use <tab> to autocomplete the nick
[06:42] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: partitionmanager will do that. as always, there is a risk
[06:43] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, cristian_c, my bad, i just looked at the c's and they were the same lengtj
[06:43] <recursion> not if you're using Hexchat in windows like me
[06:43] <crazyhorse> obriandave; ah ok.. well
[06:43] <crazyhorse> i can't get the thing to boot..
[06:43] <Rannamaari> what thing to boot ?
[06:43] <crazyhorse> Rannamaari: long story...
[06:43] <Rannamaari> haha  okay
[06:44] <ObrienDave> AFAIK ubuntu uses half your memory as a ramdisk
[06:44] <crazyhorse> ok.. i just reinstalled again for the 5th time
[06:44] <crazyhorse> except this time without any customisation options
[06:44] <crazyhorse> and the machine just booted
[06:44] <ObrienDave> YAY!!!
[06:44] <crazyhorse> so if i got to customised the partitions
[06:44] <crazyhorse> it won't boot
[06:44] <Rannamaari> c'mon
[06:44] <Rannamaari> what won't boot
[06:45] <histo> crazyhorse: create a /boot partition 200MB or so formatted fat32  hopefuly the installer will put the EFI stuff there.
[06:45] <ObrienDave> now, install gparted and see what size your swap is
[06:45] <histo> crazyhorse: I've told you that you have an EFI system and you need a /boot partition.
[06:45] <WeThePeople> hi
[06:45] <histo> WeThePeople: hola
[06:46] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: 31.69GB
[06:47] <ObrienDave> see??? i said something about swap being the same size as memory ;))
[06:47] <crazyhorse> that's a lot of disk-space :9
[06:47] <crazyhorse> :(
[06:47] <crazyhorse> why does it need "any" swap/
[06:47] <histo> crazyhorse: It doesn't have to be that big. Only if you want to hibernate
[06:47] <crazyhorse> histo: nah, never want to hibernate
[06:48] <crazyhorse> i was thinking of just giving it 1gb
[06:48] <crazyhorse> since it shoul never use it anwyay
[06:48] <ObrienDave> how many partitions on drive now?
[06:48] <histo> crazyhorse: Once RAM fills it will use swap to avoid the system running out of RAM. It will also cache data there that is not needed as much
[06:48] <recursion> unless its a Hadoop machine
[06:48] <jackbrown> how can i force a  vmware machine to use a specific AUDIO IN/OUT ?
[06:48]  * histo bets there is a /boot partition now
[06:49] <crazyhorse> 2.. /dev/sda1 ext4, /dev/sda2 extended... subone at /dev/sda5 linux-swap
[06:49] <ObrienDave> nope. PFFFFFT!!! LOL
[06:49] <histo> crazyhorse: pastebin the output of parted -l
[06:49] <crazyhorse> the ext4 has a mount point of / and a boot flag
[06:49] <ObrienDave> YAY!
[06:49] <histo> crazyhorse: you probably weren't marking / as bootable or something silly before.
[06:50] <crazyhorse> http://goo.gl/rWfAS
[06:50] <crazyhorse> histo: / before wasn't marked as bootable
[06:51] <crazyhorse> but there are no options to do that in the installation
[06:51] <histo> crazyhorse: yes there are.. when you created your "custom" partitionis
[06:51] <crazyhorse> i'd have to create the partion, install, then go back into the lived.. open up gparted and mark it as bootable
[06:51] <crazyhorse> ok i'll reboot and have a check
[06:52] <histo> crazyhorse: also if this is an ssd you may want to add the noatime,discard options to fstab. And think about mounting /tmp and browsers cache to tmpfs in ram
[06:52] <ObrienDave> nope, when you use 'something else', you can select bootable
[06:52] <crazyhorse> oh ok
[06:52] <crazyhorse> i'll try again
[06:52] <crazyhorse> histo: ohh nice..
[06:52] <crazyhorse> histo: is that because i've got tons of ram?
[06:54] <histo> crazyhorse: no it's to preserve your SSDs from a ton of writes they don't need.
[06:54] <crazyhorse> obriandave: ok.. i'm resintalling now.. i can't see any option for boot
[06:54] <crazyhorse> except for the drop down menu that says "Device for boot loader installation"
[06:55] <crazyhorse> which i have selected /dev/sda
[06:55] <histo> crazyhorse: when you create the partition there is a flag to make it bootable
[06:55] <crazyhorse> histo: i'm in the installer... there are no flags anywhere to set it as bootable
[06:56] <crazyhorse> i'm not in gparted
[06:56] <ObrienDave> yes, you are. do you see the partition map? that's gparted
[06:56] <histo> crazyhorse: edit hte partition you are creating.
[06:57] <crazyhorse> histo: ok.. i did that
[06:57] <crazyhorse> it has 3 options
[06:57] <crazyhorse> Use As: (file sytemt type).  Format the partition: (greyed out tick box) and Mount point: /
[06:57] <ObrienDave> yup, that's it
[06:58] <ObrienDave> leave mount point as /
[06:58] <crazyhorse> yep i've done that
[06:58] <crazyhorse> there's nothing about marking at as bootable or adding any tags though?
[06:58] <ObrienDave> should be. hang on a sec
[06:58] <histo> crazyhorse: there should be a box to check and make it bootable.
[06:59] <crazyhorse> histo: there's not.. there is a drop down list
[06:59] <crazyhorse> labeled "Device for boot loader installation" .. thats it
[06:59] <crazyhorse> iv'e clicked through every menu option
[07:00] <ObrienDave> right click on the MAIN drive partition
[07:00] <crazyhorse> there is no right click option
[07:00] <crazyhorse> i'm in the installer remember and NOT gparted
[07:00] <crazyhorse> is there a website i can post screenshots from my phone?
[07:01] <ObrienDave> it's using gparted to do the work
[07:01] <Senjai_> crazyhorse: imgur.com
[07:02] <crazyhorse> obraindave: yeah it's not giving me any options
[07:02] <WeThePeople> cool computer company = pssclabs.com
[07:02] <ObrienDave> give me a minute to fire up Vbox
[07:02] <crazyhorse> :D
[07:03] <ObrienDave> let me fire up an install disk in Vbox. brb
[07:04] <crazyhorse> i'm installing imgur on my phone so at least i can take screenshots of the UI
[07:04] <isaias> hello. What is ubuntu's channel for...uhhh, arm? I need more information about nexus 7 and ubuntu
[07:04] <ObrienDave> this channel is for Ubuntu support
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> isaias, #ubuntu-touch has images
[07:05] <histo> !phone | isaias
[07:06] <triforce> hjhj
[07:08] <WinterXorg> Hey guys
[07:08] <WinterXorg> Is it possible to set the permissions for a file in order to allow read/write but not delete?
[07:08] <WinterXorg> Also the file is in my home folder
[07:09] <qin> WinterXorg: sticky bit?
[07:10] <WinterXorg> ?
[07:10] <crazyhorse> http://imgur.com/tmFKrdY
[07:10] <histo> WinterXorg: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/869536/linux-directory-permissions-read-write-but-not-delete
[07:10] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: dang, your right. you can only select which partition for installing grub
[07:10] <histo> WinterXorg: although if they have write access to a file they could just delete the contents. So your situation is silly
[07:11] <crazyhorse> ObrianDave: ok.. so how about this
[07:11] <crazyhorse> install
[07:11] <crazyhorse> reboot into livecd.. then go and modify the partition?
[07:11] <WinterXorg> It's an archive
[07:11] <crazyhorse> histo: it's good for accidental deletions
[07:12] <crazyhorse> histo: i've got the policy on a few of my servers
[07:12] <qin> WinterXorg: very sweet link histo has send you, atr may be even more usefull
[07:12] <histo> crazyhorse: click on /dev/sda1  and do you have an options button
[07:12] <WinterXorg> Yeah thank you histo. Reading right now
[07:12] <azar> how to find out a file is a system file??
[07:12] <crazyhorse> histo: just change
[07:12] <qin> azar: locate or find
[07:13] <azar> qin: let me see!
[07:13] <histo> azar: file /path/to/whatever
[07:13] <crazyhorse> WinterXorg: if you need anything more advanced look at the ACL extensions (setfacl/getfacl) ... awful error messages .. but it works
[07:14] <qin> azar: omg, misreaded you...
[07:14] <histo> WinterXorg: I think making the directory r-x and the files rw- could possibly work for your situation and be easiest
[07:14] <histo> WinterXorg: but you won't be able to make anything new
[07:14] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: now that looks correct. it might cough without a swap partition. but i agree with histo, you want to keep tmp stuff in ramdisk
[07:14] <Ben64> WinterXorg: what are you trying to accomplish?
[07:14] <WinterXorg> Prevent the deletion of a Firefox extension
[07:15] <crazyhorse> ObrianDave: yeah.. if it makes it faster.. that sounds great.  Is there any downside?
[07:15] <WinterXorg> It's stored in a .xpi file which is basically a renamed zip
[07:15] <Ben64> WinterXorg: why would you delete it?
[07:15] <azar> qin: I though you mean "locate" or "find" command, am I wrong??
[07:15] <ObrienDave> not really if only for temp things
[07:15] <WinterXorg> The extension restricts acces to onlly a couple of sites for a period of time (in my case study websites)
[07:16] <WinterXorg> So I need to make sure it's not trivial to bypass it
[07:16] <qin> azar: do you want to find a file or find out if file is system file?
[07:16] <ObrienDave> with all of your ram there should not be a problem
[07:16] <azar> second one :)
[07:16] <crazyhorse> ObrienDave: is there an online guide for doing that?
[07:16] <azar> qin: the second one I mean
[07:16] <histo> WinterXorg: put it in the system wide plugins directory and the users aren't the owner. Rather than putting it in their respective homes
[07:17] <crazyhorse> or do i just create a "ramdisk" of maybe 2 or 3gb and then start setting up apps to use it
[07:17] <qin> azar: then: file /path/to/file
[07:17] <ObrienDave> hmm, not sure. maybe you can talk histo into telling you again
[07:17] <WinterXorg> That should work
[07:17] <histo> crazyhorse: What's that? tmpfs?
[07:17] <Ben64> winterxorg: or make root the owner
[07:17] <crazyhorse> histo: yeah
[07:18] <ObrienDave> histo> crazyhorse: also if this is an ssd you may want to add the noatime,discard options to fstab. And think about mounting /tmp and browsers cache to tmpfs in ram
[07:18] <WinterXorg> but that would require starting firefox with root privileges
[07:18] <histo> crazyhorse: let me find you a guide for it. you just create mounts in your fstab.  Also make sure you use noatime and discard options there since you are on SSD
[07:18] <Ben64> noit wouldn't...
[07:18] <crazyhorse> ok.. is this in gparted?
[07:18] <histo> WinterXorg: No system wide plugins directory
[07:18] <histo> crazyhorse: no in your fstab
[07:18] <ObrienDave> no, this is different
[07:19] <histo> crazyhorse: let me paste my fstab hodl up
[07:19] <crazyhorse> k
[07:19] <crazyhorse> thanks :D
[07:19] <Ben64> system plugin directory is better, but people can still block extensions locally in firefox
[07:19] <Braden`> How do I set the system to load lightdm at boot?
[07:19] <WinterXorg> Not this one. It's pretty much bulletproof from within the application
[07:20] <Ben64> about:addons ... diable
[07:20] <histo> crazyhorse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5699390/  this is my /etc/fstab on my SSD box.
[07:20] <histo> crazyhorse: I also have the swappiness set to 1 to avoid using swap on my SSD
[07:21] <WinterXorg> about:addons, about:config and about:support are disabled
[07:21] <Ben64> or so you think
[07:21] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: you want to minimize writes to a SSD as much as possible. writes will burn up the chips eventually
[07:21] <WinterXorg> They realy are :)
[07:22] <Ben64> 20 seconds and i'd be past it
[07:22] <deckard> between lubuntu and xfce which is lighter on resources?
[07:22] <Ben64> but if you want to use an extension to replace what should be a network based thing, thats cool
[07:22] <ObrienDave> lubuntu probably
[07:22] <Ben64> lubuntu deckard
[07:22] <deckard> ty
[07:23] <WinterXorg> Ok. I'm using a modified leechblock extension. Select prevent opening about:config in the options then go into lockdown mode
[07:23] <histo> WinterXorg: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[07:23] <deckard> do you think it would adversely affect gaming?
[07:23] <Ben64> no, its still ubuntu
[07:23] <ObrienDave> depends on the requirements of the game
[07:23] <histo> WinterXorg: put the .so in there owned by root:root with -rw-r--r--
[07:25] <WinterXorg> It's an extension so I have to convert it into a plugin. Is that possible?
[07:26] <deckard> the game can be very graphic intensive if set to it. i generally thought that lubuntu being the lightest would allow the game to take advantage of the surplus . I am wrong?
[07:26] <ObrienDave> no, you are not wrong
[07:27] <qin> WinterXorg: If you want temporarly allow only few site and irc, you probably want to use ufw and disable sudo.
[07:27] <SENSORI> ciao
[07:27] <deckard> does anybody have that link to the resource usage graph for the competing desktop
[07:27] <Ben64> deckard: what game
[07:28] <deckard> Second Life
[07:28] <SENSORI> !list
[07:28] <Ben64> well not having unity couldn't hurt
[07:28] <Ben64> SENSORI: why always !list ????
[07:29] <WinterXorg> reading about ufw now
[07:30] <ObrienDave> i've had trouble with secondlife and OpenGL since 12.04
[07:32] <WinterXorg> Silly me there was a global extensions folder togheter with the plugins one
[07:36] <moses> should I install 12 or 13?
[07:37] <ObrienDave> moses: 12.04 is the current LTS version. 13.04 is the current version
[07:37] <moses> I will be using fortran and binaries and coding a lot
[07:38] <moses> I am relativly new to linux as wel
[07:38] <moses> well
[07:39] <savagecroc> moses: fortran what, 77?
[07:39] <moses> advice?
[07:39] <jjosh> for desktop, i'd say 13.04
[07:39] <moses> fortran 95
[07:39] <moses> I will be remotely accessing this a lot
[07:39] <recursion> i dont get why the software center shows such an old version of Qt 2
[07:39] <moses> so 13 is better?
[07:40] <savagecroc> i always stick with the LTS versions
[07:40] <Braden`> I have xwindows loaded.  I started it using lightdm.  If I leave it alone, the lock screen appears correctly, but when I enter my password I only see a black screen with my mouse cursor.
[07:40] <Ben64> 13.04 is newer, 12.04 is supported for much longer
[07:40] <Braden`> 13.04 is buggy as hell
[07:41] <ObrienDave> 13.04 gives you newer versions, 12.04 is a bit more stable
[07:41] <moses> I thought 12 was buggy and 13 had less bugs?
[07:41] <Braden`> From the xwindows video problems to the installer's partitioning system getting stuck in an endless error loop... yea
[07:41] <Ben64> 12.04 is LTS and is more stable
[07:41] <Ben64> and its 12.04, not just "12"
[07:41] <Ben64> because there is also a 12.10
[07:41] <Braden`> 12.10 is good
[07:41] <savagecroc> what's the next LTS version?
[07:42] <ObrienDave> and a 12.04.2
[07:42] <Ben64> every 2 years. 12.04 -> 14.04 are LTS
[07:42] <gijoe73> !list
[07:43] <savagecroc> what do i use for editing config files on ubuntu? (i.e. just plain txt)
[07:43] <Braden`> I have xwindows loaded.  I started it using lightdm.  If I leave it alone, the lock screen appears correctly, but when I enter my password I only see a black screen with my mouse cursor.
[07:43] <Braden`> Does anyone know how to fix that?
[07:43] <Ben64> savagecroc: nano, gedit, vim, edit, and tons more
[07:44] <savagecroc> .. yeah i meant GUI
[07:44] <Ben64> Braden`: what exactly do you mean xwindows and started it with lightdm
[07:44] <savagecroc> ah gedit :)
[07:45] <recursion> sublime unlimited trail?
[07:45] <recursion> trial^
[07:45] <Braden`> Ben64:  I am using Ubuntu installed as a guest OS in virtualbox.  I installed Ubuntu 13.04, installed guest additions, restarted ubuntu, and when it tries to load xwindows, I get a black screen with a blinking cursor.  If I use the console and run lightdm, then I get the login screen in xwindows, but when I try to log in, I get a blank black screen with only the mouse cursor
[07:46] <Ben64> Braden`: just so you know... xwindows doesn't exist anymore
[07:47] <ObrienDave> Braden: that is probably a Vbox configuration problem, not an Ubuntu problem
[07:47] <moses> can you SSH into a ubuntu desktop
[07:47] <moses> box
[07:47] <moses> ?
[07:47] <recursion> xfiles either?
[07:47] <Braden`> ObrienDave:  I don't see how
[07:48] <Ben64> moses: if you install ssh server, sure
[07:48] <Braden`> Ben64:  What do you call it then?
[07:48] <Ben64> xorg
[07:48] <Braden`> The GUI?
[07:48] <moses> perfect
[07:48] <Braden`> Ah ok
[07:48] <Braden`> xorg
[07:48] <Ben64> anyway, its probably because of 3d unity that you can't get to anything
[07:48] <Braden`> Ben64:  I would actually be happy with a 2d gui
[07:48] <Ben64> try installing a different DE or maybe unity 2d or something
[07:48] <Braden`> Can I install gnome shell?
[07:49] <Ben64> !info gnome-shell
[07:49] <Ben64> yep
[07:49] <ObrienDave> Braden: what is the host OS?
[07:49] <Braden`> Windows 8
[07:49] <Braden`> So if I want to install gnome, I use gnome-shell?
[07:50] <Braden`> err I install the gnome-shell package?
[07:50] <Ben64> yeah, should work
[07:50] <Braden`> Ok, thanks
[07:52] <histo> !notunity | Braden`
[07:55] <recursion> does the bot know anything about Qt?
[07:55] <ObrienDave> not sure
[07:55] <ObrienDave> !qt
[07:55] <Braden`> Thank you
[07:57] <recursion> !codeblocks
[07:58] <mapps> hi
[07:58] <mapps> could someone help me please
[07:58] <mapps> :D
[07:58] <ObrienDave> mapps: just ask :)
[07:58] <Ben64> not until you ask a question
[07:59] <arquebus> recursion, what do you want to know about qt?
[07:59] <mapps> ok ...i cannot get my ubjntu machine to resolve any domains or ping any external IPS..ive checked the output of route..also checked ifconfig and I also checked resolvconf and set 2 NS (2 opendsns nameservers0
[07:59] <mapps> but
[07:59] <mapps> still cant reach any external hosts ping google.com / nslookup ec all fails
[08:00] <ObrienDave> wired or wireless connection?
[08:00] <mapps> but i can ping local machines so packets arent getting out of the network - im stuck with what to do/look at now
[08:00] <mapps> wireless
[08:00] <mapps> also checked iptables -L and nothing that could stop it
[08:00] <aeon-ltd> mapps: disable iptables and check
[08:00] <aeon-ltd> unless security is a huge concern
[08:00] <mapps> thee's no chains on it..its a fresh install
[08:01] <mapps> also not sure how to disable it as such
[08:01] <ObrienDave> firewall issue?
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> iptables^
[08:01] <mapps> well i dont see how there's no firewall -- ive got no chains/rules set in iptables
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> unless other machines on the network can't get outside either
[08:01] <mapps> na they can
[08:02] <crazyhorse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5699390/
[08:02] <mapps> how can i disable iptables then? as it shows no rules
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> mapps: probably not worth trying if there are no rules
[08:02] <mapps> ok
[08:02] <mapps> so what else:)
[08:03] <Ben64> mapps: can you ping 4.2.2.2
[08:03] <ObrienDave> crazyhorse: looks good. i'm NOT a fstab guru
[08:03] <mapps> nbope
[08:03] <mapps> cant ping any IP/domain outside the LAN
[08:03] <Ben64> mapps: then you have a networking problem, doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue
[08:04] <savagecroc> obriandave: sorry,  that was just a copy paste
[08:04] <savagecroc> this is me on the actual ubuntu machine
[08:04] <mapps> but how? my other machines are fine - and the machine can reach other machines
[08:04] <mapps> so i can connect to ubuntu from my netbook and ping other local machines from ubuntu
[08:04] <ObrienDave> maybe your router is at its IP address limit?
[08:05] <FlowerPot> hi, i have multiple screens .. is it possible to choose the position of the unity bar for each screen?
[08:05] <ObrienDave> no, guess not
[08:05] <mapps> na ive only got like 3 machnes connecyed and it's also reaching local IPs
[08:05] <BadPerson> My install is being strange... for each second, the first half-second is frozen, and the final half-second it updates normally.
[08:05] <Ben64> mapps: what is the output of "route"
[08:05] <walltender>  Is there a utility that specify power threshold and whne it exceed, shut down the corresponding application?
[08:06] <dr_willis> FlowerPot:  you can have it show or not show on other monitors.. but you dont move it to the bottom/top
[08:06] <ObrienDave> savagecroc: cool, working good for you, so far?
[08:06] <savagecroc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5699474/  << should i be adding discard to the / drive?
[08:07] <ObrienDave> savagecroc: not sure. don't know a thing about fstab
[08:07] <savagecroc> if i want to setup an identical computer to this one should i just run through all the installation procedures again.. or can i do some copy/paste migration thing and then rename the user account?
[08:07] <sianhulo> there is a tool in ubuntu that tests your connection with diferent dns servers and make a graph afterwards. However, I don't remember its name, does someone knoe the name?
[08:07] <FlowerPot> my i idea was to have it on the left screen on the left side and on the right screen on the right side .. but w/e just thinking of how to make my workstation perfect :D
[08:07] <histo> !clone | savagecroc
[08:08] <dr_willis> FlowerPot:  you cant move the left side panel.
[08:08] <savagecroc> histo: thanks
[08:08] <savagecroc> histo: do you know if i need to add the discard option?
[08:08] <histo> savagecroc: is it an SSD?
[08:08] <ObrienDave> histo: learn something new EVERY day :))
[08:08] <savagecroc> histo: yeah
[08:08] <savagecroc> i only have a single ssd in the machine
[08:08] <mapps> Ben64,  http://pastebin.com/0Asp4yb3
[08:08] <histo> savagecroc: then I would add it.
[08:08] <mapps> all looked fine to me
[08:08] <FlowerPot> okay, thanks anyways :)
[08:09] <histo> Savage_CL: http://www.howtogeek.com/62761/how-to-tweak-your-ssd-in-ubuntu-for-better-performance/
[08:10] <isaias> hello. What is ubuntu's channel for...uhhh, arm? I need more information about nexus 7 and ubuntu
[08:10] <ObrienDave> shouldnt 192.168.1.0 be a gateway also?
[08:10] <dr_willis> !arm
[08:10] <dr_willis> !touch
[08:10] <Ben64> mapps: except you don't have a gateway
[08:10] <ObrienDave> isaias: told you that once before
[08:11] <mapps> ah damnit sorry i typed it out wrong
[08:11] <mapps> i had to type it anually
[08:11] <mapps> default has a gateway of 192.168.1.1
[08:11] <crazyhorse> histo: should i create one for /tmp as well?
[08:12] <Ben64> mapps: and 1.1 is your router?
[08:12] <mapps> yep
[08:12] <Ben64> then... dunno whats going on
[08:12] <mapps> damnit
[08:12] <mapps> this sucks
[08:13] <Ben64> try ethernet?
[08:13] <mapps> ive checked route/ifconfig /retsrated networking ..ive checked resolvconf and changed ns
[08:13] <mapps> i cant router downstairs
[08:13] <Ben64> just to test
[08:13] <dr_willis> test with a live cd . if that also fails.. it may be some odd hardware issue
[08:14] <mapps> it worked yesterday see i then shutdown went t work..come back ran apt-get update and it failed
[08:14] <mapps> no idea why
[08:14] <expert> hi
[08:14] <mapps> weird
[08:14] <expert> guys
[08:14] <dr_willis> mapps:  try the older kernels in the grub menus.. see if any of those woork.. would alsobe a good test to try
[08:14] <mapps> ok
[08:14] <mapps> thanks
[08:14] <Guest74289> how to create a customize a ubuntu installation disk
[08:15] <dr_willis> !remasterr
[08:15] <dr_willis> !remaster
[08:15] <appy_kudos> remastersys
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> sianhulo: there are few dns tools in software centre you might wanna checkout
[08:16] <Guest74289> can we modify the ubuntu looks with it?
[08:17] <mapps> hmm
[08:17] <mapps> wtf
[08:17] <SigmaArcher> What's up?
[08:17] <xeno-k> nothing
[08:17] <mapps> damnit still nothing
[08:18] <mapps> um
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> !language | mapps
[08:18] <sianhulo> lotuspsychje, found it, its name is "namebench"
[08:18] <mapps> dr_willis,  i cant no older kernels listed when i boot
[08:18] <mapps> sorry
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> !yay | sianhulo
[08:18] <dr_willis> mapps:  you did look in that sub menu under grub?
[08:18] <sianhulo> ubottu, lotuspsychje, thanks
[08:18] <mapps> rebooted and it comes up ubuntu / win7 and memtest
[08:18] <mapps> didnt see anything else
[08:19] <xeno-k> can i double boot winxp with lubuntu
[08:19] <dr_willis> mapps:  you could install some older kernels i guess as a test.. but  thats odd you have none.. unless its a brand new install
[08:19] <mapps> yes xeno-k
[08:19] <mapps> ya it is
[08:19] <dr_willis> mapps:  you are using a wubi install?
[08:19] <mapps> a new install few days old
[08:19] <mapps> nope
[08:19] <mapps> ubuntu 13.04 server install
[08:20] <xeno-k> all the ping timeouts remember me an pseydo-hacker...
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | xeno-k
[08:20] <dr_willis> and networking works  in win7 properly?
[08:20] <mapps> yea
[08:20] <recursion> lol, i think upgrade for 12.04 is replacing the entire installation
[08:20] <mapps> and it did work yeserday dr_willis  it worked then i turned it on ran update and now wont work
[08:21] <dr_willis> id see if a live cd works.. and jot down its settings. if it does.  ;)
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> recursion: not interesting tryin 13.04 clean?
[08:21] <crazyhorse> .
[08:22] <mapps> ok what settings yto check just so I know - I checked resolve.conf and ythe networking settings i cant see what else to check
[08:22] <mapps> on a livecd
[08:22] <mapps> to compare to this install
[08:22] <dr_willis> i just use network manager and see what ip and other info it gets.
[08:22] <dr_willis> i alwys use dhcp ;)
[08:23] <dr_willis> my router assigns ip and info  to each  mac address.. so mu stuff rareely changes
[08:23] <recursion> so does my neighbors
[08:23] <xeno-k> first part
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[08:24] <FloodBot1> xeno-k: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:24] <Ben64> xeno-k: don't do that in here
[08:24] <xeno-k> sorry
[08:25] <xeno-k> its my first time in irc
[08:26] <Name141> Is there still a super duper fast way to install Spotify?
[08:26] <mapps> ok thanks
[08:27] <xeno-k> how i ping on ubuntu??
[08:27] <histo> xeno-k: ping someip
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> Name141: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-install-spotify-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10
[08:30] <MestreLion> how can I know for how long a given session is idle (no user input)? all sources indicate D-Bus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver, but I don't have such method here, only org.gnome.ScreenSaver, and it has things like Inhibit and set_active, but thing that looks like an idle counter
[08:31] <MestreLion> but *nothing* that looks like an idle counter
[08:33] <MestreLion> btw, using 12.04
[08:36] <Naranek> I'm running kubuntu 12.04 and I see that bug 256242 is finally solved, but the fix will be released with KDE 4.11. If I want to have the fix earlier I need to build the program (kwin) from source, right?
[08:36] <Naranek> not that bug, the kde bug :) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=256242
[08:37] <MestreLion> anyone?
[08:37] <Name141> lotu.. oh he left
[08:37] <Naranek> I'd like some pointers about how to go forward with this..
[08:38] <Naranek> I'm thinking that there must be many ways to get there, but what's the best one? :)
[08:41] <dr_willis> Naranek:  or find a ppa with newer versions
[08:42] <MestreLion> also, who is supposed to provide org.freedesktop.Screensaver ? was it removed in 12.04 ?
[08:43] <dr_willis> gnome devs  and ubuntu devs perhaps. have been slowly trimming out screensavers it seems with each release
[08:47] <Naranek> dr_willis: That would do it yes... but didn't find any. 4.11 is very early in development
[08:49] <MestreLion> dr_willis: "providing" as in which package installs org.freedesktop.Screensaver D-Bus?
[08:50] <MestreLion> (or any  other method that givs me the session idle time?)
[08:50] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com might have some info on getting idle time..  other then that. no idea
[08:51] <dr_willis> or  parent of askubuntu.com for more general linux/systemadmin type questions may have a broadere base and a way.
[08:51] <MestreLion> dr_willis: I did already... all answers point org.freedesktop.Screensaved D-Bus
[08:51] <MestreLion> the "broader" method seems to be this D-Bus call, which is pointed out in most answers since 2009
[08:52] <dr_willis> stackexchange.com or  whatever  its called.. often i find  some obsure old skool way to do things at some of the admin  type question sitees
[08:52] <MestreLion> so I guess Ubuntu 12.04 is the exception... and I wonder what is the scenario with that particular release
[08:52] <dr_willis> wonder if theres a d-bus channel  -  i dont code any more. so dont get into it.
[08:52] <MestreLion> but that's not a D-Bus question... its about how Ubuntu 12.04 is set up...
[08:52] <dr_willis> there was some chanves from dconf to gconf? or was it the other way?
[08:54] <MestreLion> it looks like all other distros (or previous versions of ubuntu), and also KDE, use the org.freedesktop.Screensaver D-Bus API for that
[08:54] <MestreLion> dr_willis: gconf was deprecated in favor of dconf (actually, in favor of gsettings which uses dconf as a backbone)
[08:57] <tortik> Why are some packages in ubuntu's repos not updated (app's old version) and can I build new package and send it to repo?
[08:57] <histo> tortik: stability
[08:58] <histo> tortik: you can build a new version for the next release of ubuntu if the package isn't being maintained. /j #ubuntu-dev
[08:59] <tortik> histo: but in official sites of some apps there are new stable versions. Thanks for direction
[08:59] <ObrienDave> torkit: you can also install the PPA for 'bleeding edge" apps if you like
[08:59] <CasW> Hey guys, the latest kernel update has broken my setup again, no Unity... How do I revert to the previous kernel?
[09:00] <ObrienDave> select the older kernel from the grub menu
[09:01] <MonkeyDust> CasW  !
[09:01] <bekks> CasW: Or fix the graphics driver installation.
[09:01] <CasW> MonkeyDust!
[09:01] <CasW> Bekks: I have tried different driver installations, didn't fix it last time
[09:02] <bekks> CasW: So which driver are you using then?
[09:02] <Name141> Speaking of drivers, I thought there was offical AMD drivers for the ATi 4670 still in 12.04 ?
[09:02] <CasW> At the moment I'm using fglrx-updates, but I have tried to set it to xorg-driver-etcetera-ati and that didn't fix it...
[09:03] <Name141> or did they decide to take it out of the LTS as well ?
[09:03] <bekks> CasW: With ATI/fglrx, I'm sorry, I'm out of help.
[09:04] <CasW> Hm, thanks anyway
[09:06] <dr_willis> unity/compiz seems way to fragile at times with video drivers.. had issues withmy nvidia systems (no unity panels) but the 3d drivers were definatly working according to nvidia-settings, and  gnome-shell and kde, and the 3d games. ;)   then it started working again a few days later.. i never did figure out why it was  goofing up
[09:08] <moses> hey
[09:08] <moses> how come sudo apt-get install chntpw isnt working?
[09:08] <CasW> Yeah, well, that might be, but I don't want to have to wait a few days before I can use my computer again ;-)
[09:08] <appy_kudos> how to setup scim in Ubuntu 13.04?
[09:09] <appy_kudos> i just installed scim and related packages but icon doesnt appear on panel.??
[09:10] <moses> ok i need help
[09:10] <moses> I booted from a live CD
[09:10] <moses> can i ask ubuntu to get programs from the internet
[09:10] <moses> because when i type apt-get it looks to the drive :/
[09:11] <appy_kudos> moses: try sudo apt-get update during live session
[09:11] <appy_kudos> how to setup scim in Ubuntu 13.04?
[09:11] <appy_kudos> Has anyone tried to replace ibus with scim?
[09:11] <dr_willis> !info chntpw
[09:12] <moses> what did that do?
[09:12] <moses> is chntpw already part of the live cd?
[09:12] <appy_kudos> moses: it will download package information from ubuntu servers to your computer..
[09:12] <dr_willis> moses:  i would doubt that.. its in the universe repo. be sure that repository is enabled
[09:13] <dr_willis> always try a 'sudo apt-get update'  befor installing stuff. (or at least once a day ) ;) if installing lots of stuff
[09:13] <willem> hi i have a question i want to change my window theme how can i do that ?
[09:13] <willem> i don't like adwaita
[09:13] <moses> its trying to update from the cdrom E:
[09:13] <moses> how do i make it look to the internet?
[09:13] <CasW> Hm, setting the drivers to fglrx and then re-enabling unity worked! :-D I only have this little box that says 'unsupported hardware' :-P (It's an AMD Radeon HD6790, by the way)
[09:13] <moses> what should i google for this?
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> !themes | willem use unity-tweak-tool or gnome-tweak-tool
[09:14] <dr_willis> moses:  remove the cd from your sources - using the source editor tool.. is one way to fix that
[09:14]  * dr_willis wonders if ubuntu is really calling  the cdrom    E:   
[09:14] <willem> i know how to change my themes but which do i need for my window theme ? and do i need to put theme in my themes folder ?
[09:14] <appy_kudos> dr_willis: have you tried scim?
[09:15] <moses> I promise you it is
[09:15] <moses> It says E: Unable to locate package chntpw
[09:15] <dr_willis> appy_kudos:  not that i am aware of.. if its supposed to have a system tray icon - thats basically disabled in 13.04 - in favor of indicator applets
[09:15] <dr_willis> moses:  E: ---> error
[09:15] <moses> oh
[09:15] <moses> oh
[09:15] <dr_willis> W: --> warning
[09:15] <moses> TY!
[09:15] <dr_willis> you need to do a sudo apt-get update,
[09:15] <moses> i did
[09:15] <dr_willis> or be sure the universe repo is enabled.
[09:16] <dr_willis> (and be sure)
[09:16] <histo> !info chntpw | moses
[09:16] <CasW> Hm, the window decoration is still missing, though, the borders...
[09:16] <dr_willis> CasW:  if compiz crashes.. then no decorations
[09:16] <MonkeyDust> willem  explore the tools I mentioned and see which button changes the window theme
[09:16] <moses> it says W: duplicate sources.lost entry cdrom://Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS blah blah blah and then says it again about packages
[09:17] <moses> sources.list*
[09:17] <CasW> Well, compiz doesn't crash anymore, that's the thing
[09:17] <dr_willis> moses:  you hve one or more entries  in your sources.list  pointing to the CDrOM. you need to remove them.
[09:17] <dr_willis> THEN rerun sudo apt-get update
[09:17] <moses> how do i access that list?
[09:17] <moses> i can google that
[09:17] <willem> in gnome tweak tool it's window theme but whic theme catagorie must i download on the site ?$
[09:17] <dr_willis> use the software-soures gui tool  that was mentioned earlier
[09:18] <moses> where would that gui tool me?
[09:18] <moses> be
[09:18] <dr_willis> willem:  use t he various repositories. and  ppa's to instsll extra themes.. such as webupd8 and omgubuntu
[09:19] <dr_willis> moses:  use the dashs's search feature.
[09:19] <dr_willis> or its a menu under the software-center i recall
[09:19] <moses> i googled
[09:19] <CasW> Ah, it was just disabled in compiz... xD
[09:19] <willem> okay i will try that does that work to in debian stable ?
[09:19] <dr_willis> willem:  no idea. i dont use debian.. i use Ubuntu. ;) thats why im in Ubuntu Support
[09:20] <MonkeyDust> dr_willis  too obvious ;)
[09:20] <moses> i love you
[09:20] <moses> it worked!
[09:20] <willem> okay
[09:21] <dr_willis> MonkeyDust:  Obviousman is obvious.
[09:21] <willem> oh i'm in the wrong channel :) sorry guys !
[09:21] <dr_willis> !manual | moses
[09:21] <dr_willis> that factoid amuses in how little it really says...
[09:21] <cristian_c> An other question
[09:22] <cristian_c> How can I switch audio from mono to stereo?
[09:22] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:23] <dr_willis> check the settings thing under the speaker icon.
[09:23] <dr_willis> or pavucontrol
[09:23] <dr_willis> pr was ot pauvcontrol
[09:23] <dr_willis> !info pavucontrol
[09:24] <calamity> Hey all, via the console, is there a command to end a specific user session? (assuming that a user is logged on multiple times)
[09:24] <cristian_c> dr_willis, I've checked pavucontrol, but I don't know how to do
[09:24] <dr_willis> calamity:  you could kill their  pid of the  users  initial login shell.. but thats a bit overkill
[09:24] <dr_willis> cristian_c:  no idea  then. Im not on a ubuntu pc to look.
[09:25] <calamity> Haha. is there a more graceful option? :p
[09:25] <cristian_c> dr_willis, ok
[09:25] <dr_willis> could be its under speaker settings also.
[09:25] <dr_willis> calamity:  reboot.. ;P
[09:25] <cristian_c> dr_willis, I don'tfind them
[09:25] <CasW1> There, I believe everything works again :-)
[09:28] <emirgian> hi
[09:28] <calamity> hi
[09:29] <emirgian> Does anyone know how to create a irc server on my pc?
[09:29] <dr_willis> install an os.. install an irc server on thst os...
[09:29] <emirgian> q
[09:29] <dr_willis> read and follow the directorins for the irc server. ;)
[09:30] <dr_willis> you can have very tiny irc servers.. or huge complex ones..
[09:30] <dr_willis> why do you want to run your own irc server? you can make channels for personal use here if you want to
[09:30] <dr_willis> apt-cache search ircd      should show several irc servers in the repos
[09:38] <azar> what attribute in "file" command shows a file is a system file??
[09:38] <bekks> azar: No one.
[09:39] <bekks> azar: "hidden" is not a file attribute (not an attrubute of the content) but just of the file name.
[09:39] <bekks> azar: ".config" is hidden, "config" isnt.
[09:40] <azar> bekks: so, how to know a file is a system file or not?
[09:40] <jatt> what is a system file?
[09:40] <bekks> azar: "system files" are meaningless in Linux.
[09:40] <bekks> azar: a hidden file is a file with a . as the first charecter of the file name.
[09:42] <thecodeischaos> you can get hidden folders too
[09:42] <azar> bekks: how to find out a file is part of the operating system or other control program?
[09:43] <azar> how to find out a file is part of the operating system or other control program?
[09:44] <klemzy> hello
[09:45] <klemzy> i need help with network
[09:45] <Naranek> azar: you can get pretty far looking at the location of the file
[09:46] <klemzy> why?
[09:46] <Naranek> all your own files are under /home
[09:46] <Naranek> if it's somewhere else, it's probably a "system file"
[09:46] <klemzy> you talk to me?
[09:47] <Naranek> klemzy: what kind of help?
[09:47] <azar> Naranek: ok, Thx
[09:47] <azar> Naranek: ;)
[09:48] <klemzy> network
[09:48] <klemzy> and that stuff
[09:48] <Naranek> azar: no problem. also if the file is owned by root you should probably keep your hands off ;)
[09:49] <Naranek> klemzy: well... if you have a specific problem, tell us and we might be able to help. for general network knowledge you're better off googling it :)
[09:49] <klemzy> ok
[09:50] <klemzy> here we go
[09:50] <flexd> Hi, I have an odd problem
[09:50] <flexd> sudo hangs
[09:50] <flexd> :-/
[09:50] <gordonjcp> flexd: that *is* pretty odd
[09:50] <gordonjcp> flexd: can you think of anything that may have changed, that could cause this to happen?
[09:50] <flexd> It was possible to do sudo -i to get a root shell, but any sudo command as my normal user hangs.. I have not reinstalled anything or rebooted it
[09:50] <gordonjcp> flexd: have you done an update, but not rebooted yet?
[09:50] <klemzy> i cant apt-get update because my network or repos are fucked up
[09:50] <flexd> There is no change as far as I know, but I might be able to look at logwatch mails to see
[09:50] <flexd> Uh
[09:51] <flexd> I do have unattended-upgrades installed
[09:51] <IdleOne> !language | klemzy
[09:51] <timClicks> hi, I have a strange problem connecting to wireless. My laptop can get an IP address from the router but no packets seem to get anywhere.
[09:52] <Naranek> klemzy: do you get an error message? can you surf the internet with the same computer?
[09:52] <timClicks> e.g. the network connnects, but I can't even visit http://192.168.1.1/
[09:52] <timClicks> other computers in the house work just fine
[09:52] <flexd> gordonjcp: How can I check if an update has been done ?
[09:52] <jatt> what does
[09:52] <jatt> sudo route
[09:52] <jatt> say?
[09:52] <flexd> I guess I could try a reboot.
[09:52] <flexd> jatt: as root or as the unprivileged user?
[09:52] <klemzy> no, but it is in the same lan
[09:53] <klemzy> it has 2 eth cards
[09:53] <afo> Hi all, I have Question. Why I should open gmail in browser to get the notification on message indicator?  It is bettur to get the notification while the browser is closed.
[09:53] <flexd> jatt: nevermind, not for me :-P
[09:53] <flexd> gordonjcp: I will try rebooting it.
[09:53] <klemzy> one of them is connected to router
[09:55] <klemzy> ping 8.8.8.8 with no problem
[09:55] <flexd> gordonjcp: Rebooting seems to have done the trick.. I wonder what was wrong
[09:56] <klemzy> i think the problem is the in priority of those 2 cards
[09:57] <Naranek> klemzy: well... networking should be pretty much plug and play. you can try to connect the network cable to the other card and see if that helps
[09:58] <Naranek> generally you should get some kind of reaction when you plug or disconnect the cable
[09:59] <klemzy> i have already set up static ip on the other one
[09:59] <Naranek> ok, well this might help http://senecacd.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/howto-troubleshoot-network-problems-ubuntu-linux-command-line/
[10:00] <notfowl> hi can someone please explain how this useless wubi is supposed to install anything? all it does is tell me to put the cd in my drive and reboot.. how useless. http://i.imgur.com/sQwuG4q.png
[10:00] <klemzy> i could ping anyone without response error
[10:00] <num7> Hi, what are .kwl file and how can i run them?
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> num7  why do you want to run them if you don't know what they are?
[10:03] <jatt> num7: try
[10:03] <jatt> file yourfile.kwl
[10:03] <jatt> maybe it tells you what format is that file
[10:04] <num7> MonkeyDust: Both :) I want to format a source code with that (keywords are in the kwl file) and i want the word which are in the kwl-file to be highlighted...
[10:05] <num7> jatt: it says C++ source, ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators
[10:05] <num7> nice but how can i highlight the keywords ?
[10:05] <notfowl> is wubi a joke?
[10:06] <notfowl> i get it if it is, pretty funny
[10:06] <k1l_> notfowl: dont use wubi
[10:07] <k1l_> notfowl: do a real install with real partitions. or use a usb-stick or a cd for testing purposes
[10:07] <jatt> google about those files, look like configuration files of some geo-software
[10:08] <notfowl> k1l_: is there a reason i shouldn't use it
[10:08] <k1l_> notfowl: its very difficult to support if something goes wrong. and most cases here show that something will go wrong
[10:09] <il_medico> ciao a tutti
[10:11] <notfowl> ok thanks
[10:11] <nikolam> Hi, anyone knows if there is a way to pass to kernel multiple memory ranges not to use during the boot (memmap=128M512M to not use 128M after 512MB) but multiple times?
[10:12] <nikolam> Or If I use GRUB2 GRUB_BADRAM="startadderss,hexmask" , would kernel use both GRUB address range to avoid and memmap , too?
[10:13] <nikolam> (I have 2 ranges that behave bad on same RAM Stick)
[10:14] <diverdude> Hi, is it possible to have a kind of ftp proxy which is able to forward different requests to different ftp servers? like ftp://server1.mydomain.com goes to server 1 and ftp://server2.mydomain.com goes to server2 etc ?
[10:18] <il_medico> che disagio gente
[10:31] <nikolam> diverdude, does 2 ftp sites can have 2 different IP addresses?
[10:33] <nikolam> diverdude, gess that's the job for 1 virtual network adapters and 2 ftp servers I think.
[10:33] <nikolam> for 2 virtual n. adapters, sorry.
[10:35] <nikolam> e.g. creating one additional virtual adapter for ftp2 service
[10:43] <moses> I cant get chntpw to work :(
[10:43] <moses> it deletes my profile but keeps a password lock at the beginning of the screen :(
[10:43] <moses> ideas?
[10:48] <petoo> hi
[10:49] <petoo> How to change my screensaver settings?
[10:51] <petoo> It's a 12.04 system, I am trying to prevent my internet  connection from disconnecting when lid is down. Unfortunately, this is not happening even after changing in power settings.
[10:53] <SigmaArcher> petoo you may have to change that in your bios
[10:57] <iceroot> petoo: are you sure its the screensaver which is enabled? and not suspend to ram/disc? the screensaver should not disconnect you
[10:59] <petoo> I am not sure what is causing it to disconnect , after googling I found it's related with screensaver. I am not sure of anything yet.
[11:00] <petoo> Just now I left the computer running with lid down, and it's still connected.
[11:00] <petoo> I turned off 'suspend after 10 minutes ' setting to never.
[11:02] <ZinovaS> im having problem with file permitions, http://paste.debian.net/6473/
[11:03] <ZinovaS> is that even possible?
[11:03] <Dr_willis> seems odd user A's home is owned by root.root
[11:04] <jrib> ZinovaS: you need to give the group executable permission on mydir
[11:04] <ZinovaS> Dr_willis thats for chroot sftp
[11:04] <Dr_willis> and user b would also need executable permissions on the dirs.  and the dirs above  i think.
[11:04] <Dr_willis> chroot sftp - never done it. :) so good luck.
[11:05] <Guest7054> @search Frank McCourt
[11:05] <Dr_willis> Guest7054,   what?
[11:11] <ZinovaS> jrib, Dr_willis, added g+rwx on mydir (http://paste.debian.net/6476/) but still getting Permition denied then trying to create directory under shared
[11:14] <PetrA> hy all.. i need some help over linux 12.04 LTS, with (unknown) ATI graphic card & gnome enviorment.. cant login -> to gnome -> ubuntu desktop starts allways
[11:14] <PetrA> unless i login with lxde
[11:16] <frib> hi.  I would like to put a user in the sudoers file that only allows the user only to restart a particular service.  How can I do this? thanks
[11:22] <diverdude> Hi, is it possible to have a kind of ftp proxy which is able to forward different requests to different ftp servers? like ftp://server1.mydomain.com goes to server 1 and ftp://server2.mydomain.com goes to server2 etc ?
[11:22] <nantou> i need help to create a shortuct to a program that works under wine, thanks
[11:22] <PetrA> hy all.. i need some help over linux 12.04 LTS, with (unknown) ATI graphic card & gnome enviorment.. cant login -> to gnome -> ubuntu desktop starts allways.. unless i login with lxde.. can someone please help me or point me direction?
[11:23] <superdo> hi, how to activate the current Nautilus item in 13.04? If I click on it , it opens a new window
[11:23] <superdo> i know alt + tab but with clicking as in prev. versions?
[11:25] <jrib> ZinovaS: show input and output in a pastebin
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:32] <ZinovaS> jrib, nevermind, i forgot that both users access that tree from different servers via sshfs so its a bit more complicated :/
[11:34] <jrib> ZinovaS: hmm, how so?
[11:38] <ZinovaS> jrib: users home directories are mounted by root via sshfs and assigned ownership to each user and I sort-of remember reading that sshfs mount allows single user to see share so no mattar that permitions are, other user cant see first users share
[11:40] <Braden`> Hello
[11:41] <Braden`> I am using gnome-shell, but its trying to use 3d.  Is there a way to limit it to 2d?
[11:41] <jrib> ZinovaS: hmm. You could mount it twice with sshfs as each user?
[11:41] <Braden`> With the dropdown menus at the top instead of the sidebar, etc.
[11:41] <lihai> you can use mate-desktop
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> Braden`  it's called fallback-session, find it in the repos
[11:42] <Braden`> Ok, thank you
[11:43] <ZinovaS> jrib: thats a very interesting idea! ;)
[11:47] <Thermoelectric> Hmm. I'm having trouble trying to get Ubuntu to install/work with the ATI drivers, whenever I install them it and reboot the screen just blanks after the splash/boot screen. 12.04.
[11:48] <DartmanX> does apt-get have the --nodeps option in 13.04? I need the maven app w/o all the openjdk/openjre stuff since Im using sun
[11:48] <DartmanX> er, oracle
[11:48] <iceroot> DartmanX: man apt-get
[11:50] <DartmanX> man. how quaint. But seriously, I had already done apt-get --help and didn't see it, so I'm wondering if it's been removed/replaced
[11:53] <jrib> DartmanX: no, you don't want to do what you asked
[11:53] <user82> hi. i installed ubuntu over the old installation and since it disabled all ppa's the installer left a whole lot of broken packages. can i fix this?
[11:54] <ZinovaS> jrib: thats works verry well, I mounted userA shared dir to userB home tree and set userB as owner, each owns files in their directories, no need to change permisions at all! only drawback is that this custom mount must be done by root...
[11:54] <jrib> DartmanX: if the package works with sun/oracle's java, the package should have that in it's metadata.  If it doesn't, then it's broken and the package should be fixed.  If you install the package while ignoring dependencies (instead of fixing the dependencies), you'll always be pestered when you try to use apt/dpkg
[11:54] <ZinovaS> jrib: thanks!
[11:54] <jrib> s/it's/its
[11:54] <DartmanX> translation: it was removed to protect us from ourselves. That's cool.
[11:54] <user82> do i need to add all ppa's manually again and "un-screw" the packages with synaptic etc?
[11:54] <jrib> ZinovaS: hmm, what happens when you try to mount as the user?  I would think that that should work
[11:54] <DartmanX> I'm just trying to see if I can avoid putting it in /opt
[11:55] <jrib> DartmanX: that's not the translation at all... Like I said, if a package's metadata is wrong, then you should fix it
[11:56] <jrib> DartmanX: I see in "apt-cache depends maven" sun-java listed.  Did you install sun-java through the package system?
[11:56] <siji> Hello
[11:56] <DartmanX> attempting to install maven causes all of the openjdk stuff to install
[11:56] <siji> How to customise ubuntu Live cd with default openbox
[11:57] <jrib> DartmanX: Did you install sun-java through the package system?
[11:57] <siji> I have followed the doc -https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[11:57] <siji> And modified and added custom.conf file
[11:57] <DartmanX> no. I downloaded the current jdk from oracle, turned it into a deb with make-jpkg, and installed it
[11:58] <DartmanX> it cant find sun-java
[11:58] <jrib> DartmanX: what's the name of the package? Look at the depends for maven
[11:58] <siji> with the parameter DefaultSession=openbox-session
[11:58] <siji> but still it's not booting with openbox
[11:59] <siji> where am wrong ?
[11:59] <DartmanX> when I do that on my box, there is no listing for sun-java, only openjdk/gcj
[11:59] <jrib> DartmanX: can you pastebin?
[11:59] <DartmanX> no, different machines
[11:59] <jrib> DartmanX: the machine does not have internet access?
[11:59] <DartmanX> it's cool, I'll just use /opt. I apreciate your help, though
[12:00] <DartmanX> not when it's connected to the VPB
[12:00] <DartmanX> VPN
[12:00] <jrib> DartmanX: ok, here on 12.10 anyway maven does have sun-java(-specific-version) listed as a dependency alternative to openjdk
[12:00] <DartmanX> weird
[12:01] <DartmanX> I dont have the option of using openjdk
[12:01] <DartmanX> but again, thanks for your help
[12:01] <jrib> DartmanX: right, you shouldn't need to
[12:02] <Neikius> hello, I am experimenting with zfs on 13.04 and have some strange behaviour from grub: if I don't set rpool property it will boot but fail to mount zfs, I can do it by hand and it works. BUT when I set the rpool property it will kernel panic at the moment it mounts zfs. I am guessing the delay of manual mounting is the solution. How would I introduce such a delay somehow into the automatic behaviour? Or maybe some other ideas?
[12:02] <DartmanX> i had to upgrade to 13.04 to get a few bugfixen (such as the disk encryption login screen, which was a blank screen for me in 12.10)
[12:02] <ZinovaS> jrib: according to current setup: root on the server has ssh keys for all users on data-server so root mounts everything and sets uid/gid acordingly (in fstab); users does not has access to data server; they would need ~/.ssh dir with key but that dir vould be on data-server so there is chicken and egg problem. other thing is all users and fstab and ssh keys are regenerated from ground up every time something changes, so any manual work
[12:02] <ZinovaS> would be discarded randomly... and that shared directory is very small custom thing for two users so it wont make it to the scripts that generates everything for all users and all servers for long term use. anyways, it was great idea!
[12:06] <jrib> DartmanX: ok looks like the depends are for <java5-runtime> or <java5-runtime-headless> so make sure your package provides one of those (if you want to try to play nice with the package system).  There is a way to trick apt and I will tell you but strongly advise you not to use it.  You can use equivs to create an empty package and install it.  Since you are making a package anyway for java, it would be
[12:06] <jrib> better to just tweak its metadata imo
[12:06] <DartmanX> I installed the .tar.gz in /opt and added it to my path
[12:06] <DartmanX> I just wanted to use the package system if possible so it would upgrade automagically
[12:09] <stef1a> when mv says "cannot remove [file]; permission denied," but the file has been moved to the destination location, then a copy has been made, right?
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> stef1a  go and look in the destination to find out
[12:10] <stef1a> MonkeyDust: I did. I'm just paranoid. :-)
[12:10] <stef1a> MonkeyDust: or, rather, I'm just double-checking against people who know this stuff better than I
[12:12] <iceroot> stef1a: yes
[12:12] <iceroot> stef1a: mv will first copy the file and when that was successful it will try to remove the file
[12:14] <stef1a> iceroot: thanks
[12:23] <Ironwave> G'd day. Im atempting to create a tiny server with ubunto, installed 13.04.  Can anyone direct me to a place where I can read up or see tutorials to do it  please?
[12:24] <A1Recon> Ironwave: What server exactly??
[12:25] <simion314> hi, I need a little help to fix the package manager http://pastebin.com/nvNtFfna
[12:25] <Ironwave> I want to make a network to share a hard drive. Later maybe a web server. But let me first try and get started
[12:25] <Ironwave> So the server wil now run on a small laptop, and it will have a few hard drives.
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> Ironwave  use tasksel to select server tasks
[12:26] <first-time-here> hi
[12:26] <GIMMI11> ciao a tutti
[12:26] <GIMMI11> !list
[12:26] <A1Recon> Ironwave: u want to share ur HDD over the network?? Start using my name please, so that things are highlighted for me. Or else things will get lost here
[12:26] <first-time-here> i cant do "cat /dev/video0" i get "cat: /dev/video0: Invalid argument"
[12:27] <Ironwave> Thanks, But I im a newby with linux, thus I'm looking for a tutorial. Use tasksell means nothing to me. :-p
[12:27] <Ironwave> Im trying to run this command, but it fails.
[12:27] <Ironwave> sudo apt-get install gparted pysdm
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> first-time-here  try Video0, with capital
[12:28] <boolean> Ironwave: what is the error ?
[12:28] <first-time-here> MonkeyDust:  i get "cat: /dev/Video0: No such file or directory"
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> first-time-here  type ls /dev     is Video0 or video0 in that list?
[12:28] <A1Recon> Ironwave: Please answer ASAP!  u want to share ur HDD over the network?? Start using [person-you-are-sending-your-message's-name] please, so that things are highlighted for me. Or else things will get lost here
[12:28] <first-time-here> MonkeyDust: if i do "ls" i see that the /dev/video - is valid
[12:28] <Ironwave> A1Recon  it cant find the files
[12:29] <A1Recon> Ironwave: Do u want to share ur files over the network??
[12:29] <Ironwave> A1Recon yes
[12:29] <compdoc> Ironwave, I know the command 'sudo apt-get install gparted' should work without problems. Ive never installed pysdm
[12:29] <Ironwave> A1Recon: yes
[12:30] <Ironwave> Ill try again and see the exact error
[12:30] <A1Recon> Ironwave: and u are trying to access it from MAC, Android or WIn or what??
[12:30] <A1Recon> Ironwave: One more thing u don't need those commands...
[12:30] <Ironwave> A1Recon: I installed ubunto, and try and get it on that laptop, on ubunto
[12:31] <boolean> Ironwave: gparted is generally used for disk partitioning
[12:31] <Ironwave> ah
[12:31] <Ironwave> Its on a tutorial, im following to get a server up
[12:31] <boolean> Ironwave: psydm is not in any repository I have
[12:31] <ubuntufan10121> is there a way to get back to gnome 3 like in ubuntu 9.10
[12:31] <boolean> Ironwave: generally one uses samba or nfs for network file sharing
[12:31] <Ironwave> http://lifehacker.com/5919558/turn-an-old-computer-into-a-networked-backup-streaming-or-torrenting-machine-with-ubuntu
[12:32] <A1Recon> Ironwave: Dont follow that tutorial because if sharing on network is what you want it can be done with a few clicks...
[12:32] <MelRay> What is the command to install the public key for the xtras repo in 13.04?
[12:32] <Ironwave> A1Recon: mmm, okay, but how then
[12:32] <ubuntufan10121> is there a way to get back to gnome 3 like in ubuntu 9.10
[12:32] <betrayd> first-time-here  /dev/video is different from /dev/video0
[12:33] <MelRay> ubuntufan10121:: Hold off someone will anwer eventually...bad to keep posting the same question over and over
[12:33] <MelRay> *answer*
[12:33] <ubuntufan10121> MelRay: sorry
[12:33] <A1Recon> Ironwave: right click on the drive you wanna share then go to properties...
[12:34] <Ironwave> Boolean: Ill go and see if i can get a tutorial for samba, thanks
[12:34] <MelRay> ubuntufan10121:: Not a problem...just sharing the best way to proceed!
[12:34] <A1Recon> Ironwave: BTW its Ubuntu...
[12:34] <Ironwave> A1Recon: :p thanks
[12:34] <boolean> Ironwave: samba is for a file server
[12:34] <A1Recon> Ironwave: I am giving u the tutorial for samba...
[12:35] <boolean> Ironwave: AIRecon's way is simplier
[12:35] <Ironwave> A1Recon: Thank you.
[12:36] <A1Recon> Ironwave: then go to "Share" and change any setting u want and hit "Create Share".
[12:36] <A1Recon> Ironwave: Ubuntu will download smb server for u ....
[12:36] <A1Recon> Ironwave: Happy to help....
[12:36] <Ironwave> A1Recon: Question if i may
[12:37] <A1Recon> Ironwave: fire away..
[12:37] <Ironwave> A1Recon: It say, I need a windows networks sharing service installed
[12:37] <simion314> hi, I need a little help to fix the package manager http://pastebin.com/nvNtFfna
[12:37] <A1Recon> Ironwave: hit on yes ...yes .. and yes it will download...
[12:37] <Ironwave> A1Recon: It will work on linux?
[12:38] <Ironwave> A1Recon: Thanks
[12:38] <Ironwave> A1Recon: Ill be back again. Thanks for the info/help
[12:38] <A1Recon> Ironwave: windows networks sharing service..... not Windows
[12:39] <A1Recon> Ironwave: good luck
[12:39] <Ironwave> Boolean: Thank you too
[12:39] <boolean> you're welcome
[12:40] <A1Recon> OK to everyone out here!! Why do people hate Ubuntu? I mean like in forums and on the net people say Ubuntu is very limiting and stuff...
[12:40] <A1Recon> Ironwave: U there??
[12:41] <Ironwave> A1Recon: I am..
[12:41] <Ironwave> A1Recon: Linux seems intimidating
[12:41] <Ironwave> A1Recon: And a bit less user friendly
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> A1Recon  it's called the war of the oses
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> or flame war
[12:42] <A1Recon> Ironwave: There's this book (actually free pdf and html) called "The Linux Command Line"... read that if u want to get the hang of ubuntu
[12:42] <BluesKaj> A1Recon, it's probly not ubuntu itself thast the complaints are about , it's most likely Unity
[12:42] <cfhowlett> A1Recon, it's a religious war ... choose your battles.
[12:42] <boolean> A1Recon: i dont think it is ubuntu ppl hate but its direction to unity
[12:42] <boolean> before 12.04 it was quite popular
[12:42] <Ironwave> A1Recon: Im not a hacker. I dont know if I will remember anything. :-p
[12:43] <boolean> BluesKaj: beat me to it :)
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> A1Recon  there's also "why we hate linux (and what are we going to do about it?)"
[12:43] <A1Recon> boolean: BluesKaj: Yeah its Unity.... that people hate...
[12:43] <BluesKaj> your not a hacker if you use the command line , Ironwave , get rid of that notion as soon as possible
[12:43] <A1Recon> MonkeyDust: Ha Ha Ha....
[12:44] <Ironwave> BluesKaj: Sorry If I give offence.
[12:44] <boolean> I swore off linux during the memory management issue with ther kernel 2.4.18-23
[12:44] <Ironwave> BluesKaj: Just meaning Coding is greek.
[12:44] <boolean> but ubuntu brought me back
[12:44] <boolean> however with its migration to unity
[12:44] <A1Recon> Ironwave: Using linux makes u smart and knowledgeable not a hacker...
[12:44] <boolean> i decide to move to mint instead
[12:44] <BluesKaj> no offence taken , you just need to understand what a 'hacker" really does
[12:45] <thecodeischaos> they hack
[12:45] <BluesKaj> Ironwave,^
[12:45] <boolean> still ubuntu based but more polished desktop
[12:45] <Ironwave> A1Recon: I mearely meaned, a way with coding. Nothing else.
[12:45] <bekks> boolean: So you decide to move away from support. Good luck. :)
[12:45] <A1Recon> Ironwave: chill we are cool here
[12:45] <thecodeischaos> ubuntustudio is the best
[12:45] <boolean> bekks: I have been compiling kernels since 1.2.13
[12:46] <boolean> using slakware 3.0 before debian even showed up
[12:46] <hydruid> boolean: nice name!
[12:46] <boolean> so I no worried about support ;)
[12:46] <bekks> boolean: I'm not impressed.
[12:46] <Ironwave> Boolean: I used mint a wile. Its usable.
[12:46] <Indy^> latest update did a number on me...gettin' locked up on minimize.  My suspicion is it's the Gnome minimize animation.  Anyone else had this issue lately?
[12:47] <gerhard> me too bekks, I'm not impressed on your way to 'support' people.
[12:47] <A1Recon> BluesKaj: In what way is Unity limiting?
[12:47] <Ironwave> usable as far as one can understand linux. I just need to spend more time on it, then itt be fine, I gues
[12:47]  * A1Recon curious 
[12:47] <bekks> gerhard: Well, you started to discuss well-known and well-documented bash specifics, which bail out on your wrong syntax. Telling you, you have a bash syntax problem then, is the right way to support you.
[12:48] <boolean> A1Recon: what is interesting about the Unity interface is the breakway from the classic desktop mentality
[12:48] <thecodeischaos> unity looks like a early metro UI prototype
[12:48] <BluesKaj> A1Recon, I just hear reports about it , I'm a KDE user :)
[12:49] <A1Recon> boolean: Unity looks like Mac-like
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> i'm happy with unity
[12:51] <A1Recon> I happen to have this neighbor (sort of). lives a couple of blocks away... IT guy and earns a shitload of money and uses some Linux distro called Backtracker.
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> A1Recon  backtrack is for network analysis and intrusion, security, blah
[12:52] <fathands> boolean: unity is just mac osx with dock on side insteAd the bottom
[12:53] <boolean> fathands: being a mac user too ... mac osx is a little more polished ;)
[12:53] <A1Recon> MonkeyDust: Is it good?? for like regular use??
[12:53] <Myrtti> can we move back from comparing different Linux desktop paradigms and other operating systems, into actual support?
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> A1Recon  never tried it
[12:54] <sere> they have mac for i386 right?
[12:54] <bekks> sere: For i686.
[12:54] <Myrtti> actual *Ubuntu* support?
[12:54] <fathands> Everything is going ten foot experience or handheld. Desktops are dinosaurs
[12:55] <DJones> !offtopic
[12:55] <sere> bekks: ok cool :)...when i started using linux i think with redhat 2 i told myself i would never use mac :o
[12:55] <bekks> sere: Lets get back to Ubuntu support.
[12:56] <JMM_> bom dia, alguem pode me ajudar com ndiswrapper?  não sei mas o que fazer!!
[12:56] <DJones> !br | JMM_
[12:56] <compdoc> english
[12:57] <sere> bekks: chill i know.. shouuld i be rude and not sayiinf anything in response? or does that extra line matter??? or are we trying to push people out by pissing them off?
[12:58] <bazhang> sere, chit chat elsewhere please
[12:58] <cfhowlett> !ot
[12:59] <recursion> havent humans standardized a format for questions yet?
[13:00] <bazhang> http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html   recursion
[13:01] <BluesKaj> fathands wait til your eyes start to become tired and you want to do real computing ..then what ...a real desktop is the best choice
[13:01] <aa5656> don't you guys find ubuntu 12 buggy
[13:01] <bazhang> aa5656, so file some bugs
[13:01] <aa5656> keep popup error saying sending error report
[13:01] <arnsa> Would it work to make a bootable usb like that? `dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M`? Because I tried it but somehow it didn't work
[13:01] <bazhang> !bugs | aa5656
[13:02] <danato> i use 13.04
[13:02] <danato> or at least i used to
[13:02] <l_r> hello
[13:02] <sere> danato: no chit chat
[13:02] <l_r> does ubuntu 13.04 support multi-arch like the new version of debian?
[13:03] <danato> hey sere, where can i find rules to this channel?
[13:03] <aa5656> 13 is it good?
[13:03] <arnsa> Would it work to make a bootable usb like that? `dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M`? Because I tried it but somehow it didn't work
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !subject|danato,
[13:04] <l_r> arnsa, no
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !topic
[13:04] <arnsa> l_r, and why is that so?
[13:05] <l_r> arnsa, because you cannot easily boost iso's from an usb key
[13:05] <boolean> arnsa: use unetbootlin
[13:05] <aa5656> which shell is the best
[13:05] <l_r> arnsa, unless you install grub on the usb key and tell it to load the iso
[13:05] <boolean> sorry unetbootin
[13:05] <arnsa> l_r, and why is ubuntu the only distro which makes such an isos that you can't dd em?
[13:05] <Ironwave> 1-r I just did it, was easy And im a noob
[13:05] <l_r> Ironwave, but you installed grub ,right?
[13:06] <Myrtti> !best | aa5656
[13:06] <Ironwave> 1-r seccond. Have to cheak. I used Something
[13:06] <l_r> Ironwave, oh well, there are tools which make things automatic
[13:07] <l_r> but dd itself can 't do the whole stuff
[13:07] <Ironwave> 1-r It help for neebs like me :-)
[13:07] <l_r> you have to at least install grub and configure it to load the iso
[13:09] <DJones> l_r: As long as the iso is a 'live iso' eg Ubuntu desktop etc, sudo dd if=/path/to.iso of=/dev/sdb should work looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/116942/any-way-to-manually-make-a-bootable-usb-from-iso
[13:09] <sere> bekks: bazhang : i have been coming here since the 90s and i get you guys might be alittle power happy because you like flashing lights aka your name in highlights but you guys  ..you guys should actaully try responding to help question instead of being irc ****
[13:09] <Ironwave> 1-r I used this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[13:14] <l_r> DJones, oh nice, it depends on the iso then
[13:14] <l_r> DJones, i remember early isos were not so smart
[13:25] <Th0masR0ss_> Is wubi no longer supported for windows 8/UEFI systems?
[13:25] <first-time-here> someone can guide me about streaming my webcam?
[13:25] <cfhowlett> Th0masR0ss_, consider wubi dead ...
[13:25] <Th0masR0ss_> oh, ok.
[13:28] <betrayd> ...and buried
[13:28] <Phryq> I'm trying to fresh install ubuntu from a USB disk, but I get a bootloader error when I try to do so. I'm using Unetbootin and downloaded from the torrent. I tried deleting everything on the flash drive and re-installing twice. Same error each time
[13:29] <cfhowlett> Phryq, verify the ISO ...
[13:29] <Phryq> how?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|Phryq,
[13:29] <Phryq> thanks
[13:30] <cfhowlett> Phryq, if the iso checks out, try a different USB. They do act out sometimes.
[13:33] <danato> hey would it be ok to get help here installing tor on kali? it might be a common problem
[13:33] <betrayd> i have a working grub, but I am not sure where it came from, having a mulitboot PS. I'd like to somehow work backwards to view/make changes to its config, not create a whole new one and pray. You see XP had a hiccup and when I rebooted I was relived that *a* grub appeared at all. How would you approach this
[13:33] <betrayd>  *PC* ^
[13:33] <k1l_> danato: kali is not supported in here. its even not based on ubuntu. so see their support
[13:34] <danato> yeah i know, but their channel is dead
[13:34] <danato> well i had to check, thanks anyways
[13:34] <recursion> where is the place to enter sudo?
[13:35] <betrayd> danato maybe their forum...
[13:35] <k1l_> recursion: ? into the terminal. but what do you want to do?
[13:36] <k1l_> recursion: stay in this channel for support, please
[13:36] <k1l_> recursion: and the command is wrong, apt-get needs som command like install to. so its "sudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME"
[13:38] <recursion> how do i get to the shell?
[13:39] <betrayd> in unity i think theres a combo shortcut  ctl-alt-t?
[13:39] <recursion> you think correctly
[13:40] <betrayd> for terminal i think
[13:40] <k1l_> yep, the gnome shortcut works. or you could open the dash (with the windows key) and type terminal
[13:43] <usr13> !nomodeset
[13:43] <Phryq> cfhowlett, the hash is the same
[13:44] <cfhowlett> Phryq, try a different USB
[13:44] <Phryq> damn, I only have one
[13:44] <Phryq> so if the hash is the same, deleting my ISO and downloading a new one won't fix the problem, correct?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> Phryq, ISO is confirmed good.
[13:45] <cfhowlett> Phryq, don't delete
[13:45] <Phryq> ok, thanks
[13:45] <cfhowlett> Phryq, I'd suggest your hardware/USB could be flaky.  it does happen
[13:45] <k1l_> try a different usb port
[13:46] <betrayd> i've had trouble when i had the stick with partitions
[13:46] <cfhowlett> Phryq, try a different USB port
[13:46] <cfhowlett> k1l_, thanks for that
[13:47] <Phryq> I've tried 2 usb ports; is it worth it to try a third one?
[13:48] <MelRay_> I'm stuck getting access to Zentyal. I have checked to make sure port 443 is not already used....when I go to https://localhost I get the standard unable to connect. Can anyone give me ideas on what to check?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Phryq, Spartcus: TRY THEM ALL!
[13:48] <Phryq> ok, will do that now. Thanks
[13:50] <ktwo> Hi i got an xfs partition on my drive, how can i (quickly) format it to ext4? (very big)
[13:50] <ktwo> is there some quickformat option?
[13:50] <thecodeischaos> i think mkfs command or something
[13:51] <thecodeischaos> not sure if it is the quickest or best
[13:51] <ktwo> yea but it seems to take an eternity
[13:51] <vn151502510> try gparted with good gui
[13:52] <vn151502510> it just change a head part of partion
[13:54] <ktwo> well i have to reformat completely as it is xfs, i just was wondering if ext4 supports some kind of quickformat like NTFS does
[13:55] <vn151502510> I think all types have support
[13:56] <scalability-junk> hey I want to have a dual boot fully encrypted windows 7 and ubuntu 13.04
[13:56] <scalability-junk> truecrypt for windows 7 and luks for ubuntu 13.04
[13:56] <thecodeischaos> write a letter to santa then
[13:56] <cfhowlett> scalability-junk, competing encryptors?  Good luck with that
[13:57] <scalability-junk> the issue I have is that after installing windows and booting the installation of ubuntu 13.04 I only see empty a disk...
[13:57] <scalability-junk> cfhowlett: each on their own partition, why should that be bad?
[13:57] <scalability-junk> or how would you encrypt the windows partition with luks ^^
[13:58] <wjtaylor> samba channel is quiet today, so I'm trying here. If I use share level security for a samba share (and don't have the client setup as a user on my box), how does samba know who the file owner is?
[13:58] <recursion> i notice a slight aversion to software center here
[13:58] <cfhowlett> scalability-junk, in tech speak, the boot/root processes cause weird behavior.  Someone more knowledgeable than I can explain further...
[13:59] <betrayd> maybe your imagination or you ahvent taken your medication =)
[13:59] <scalability-junk> cfhowlett: yeah I wanted to run windows as vm, but had problems with running it satisfyingly with my graphicscard
[13:59] <koegs> scalability-junk: Install Windows, then install ubuntu, write grub to the boot-partition, not mbr, then encrypt windows-partition only with truecrypt
[14:00] <scalability-junk> koegs: can't install ubuntu ;) no partitions only the whole disk free...
[14:00] <koegs> did you encrypt the whole drive with truecrypt?
[14:01] <cfhowlett> scalability-junk, wait an encrypted vm?  Should not be an issue I would think ... but I'd still use only a single encrypt tool
[14:01] <scalability-junk> koegs: nope nothing encrypted yet
[14:01] <scalability-junk> I just installed windows and booted into ubuntu installation 13.04
[14:02] <scalability-junk> then it just says erase disk and install ubuntu cause the whole disk seems unallocated
[14:02] <first-time-here> someone can help me step by step how i can streme my webcam ?
[14:03] <koegs> scalability-junk: can you open a terminal use "sudo fdisk -l" and put the output in a pastebin?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> scalability-junk, ah.  I'd suspect UEFI issues.
[14:03] <pcarson_> ?
[14:04] <scalability-junk> cfhowlett: any idea how to fix that?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> !uefi|scalability-junk,
[14:04] <cfhowlett> scalability-junk, I've never had to deal with it, but see the links.
[14:06] <Auctus> how do i make a terminal go fullscreen? I.e. hide the dock/taskbar and the title bar, rather than just maximizing it?
[14:07] <diegobozi> hello
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> auctus: F11 maybe
[14:07] <scalability-junk> koegs: http://pastebin.com/mAsJDHNd
[14:08] <cfhowlett> diegobozi, greetings
[14:08] <Auctus> ActionParsnip, i should've tried that. Thanks.
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> auctus: or install docky and make it use the whole scrreen. it hides and shows with F12 by default
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> guake sorry. not docky
[14:12] <scalability-junk> koegs: any idea?
[14:13] <betrayd> i use a drop-down for root to do things
[14:16] <z21> how to install JDK in ubuntu 12.10 ? ( format of file is .tar.gz) .
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Z21: there is the webupd8 java ppa
[14:17] <z21> i wanna know answer of my question..please.
[14:18] <bekks> !java | z21
[14:18] <scalability-junk> koegs: am I right to assume my best bet it to just reinstall windows 7 with a complete format of the disk and without anything install ubuntu then finish up windows then finish up ubuntu do the grub magic and lastly encrypt windows via truecrypt?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> z21: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/oracle-releases-updates-for-java-7-jdk.html
[14:19] <dev2> Hi.   Is there a way to get output directed to tee to persist the text colour?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> z21: the ppa installs oracle java for you, also it will update java for you when the ppa is updates
[14:20] <dev2> currently tee seems to remove any text color that would normally show in my console
[14:21] <jrib> dev2: tee is probably not the one doing it.  What are you piping?
[14:22] <dev2> jrib: its actually rspec output, but it seems to be the same when I do ls -al | tee tmp.txt
[14:22] <jiffe2> is there a way to get ubuntu desktop to automatically log in?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> jiffe2: sure you can set it in user setings
[14:22] <vanishing> jiffe2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[14:22] <bjackman> Could anyone tell me how I can work out why LightDM isn't picking up one of my xsessions?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> dev2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/249623/can-i-save-the-command-output-to-a-file-other-than-text-files
[14:23] <vanishing> jiffe2: google is your best friend
[14:23] <jiffe2> yeah, is there a way to configure that via commandline?
[14:23] <jrib> dev2: grep --color=always foo <<< foo | tee
[14:23] <jiffe2> I'm sshing in and I need display :0
[14:23] <jiffe2> ah found it
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> jiffe2: edit lightdm.conf
[14:24] <jrib> dev2: that gives you color, right?
[14:25] <bjackman> ActionParsnip: did you mean to say that to me? I have the .desktop file listed in lightdm.conf and it's in the xsessions directory, but it doesn't appear in the login screen options
[14:26] <dev2> jrib: yes, that is colored
[14:26] <vadimkolchev> hi all. installed ubuntu and found out that my nic is working only forced to a certain mode. How can i make this mode forced automatically at boot?
[14:26] <jrib> dev2: so it's probably your initial command that detects it's being piped and decides not to send color codes
[14:26] <koegs> scalability-junk: install windows, no encryption, then install ubuntu with encryption, you will have a /boot-partition, install grub to that partition, not to the MBR
[14:27] <koegs> afterwards you can encrypt the windows-partition with truecrypt
[14:27] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev: As in your nic only works after you set it to a certain mode?
[14:27] <dev2> jrib: I see.   I didn't think of it that way but that makes sense.  Thank you
[14:27] <vadimkolchev> Digital_Pioneer, yes, it shows no signs of life right after boot
[14:27] <Geet> hi. I was thinking of formating my pc and dual booting with win7 and ubuntu-gnome 13.04. I was wondering what will be the ideal partitioning of 640gb harddisk. I do play one or two games so reserving upto 100gb for win7. How should i divide the rest?
[14:28] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev: OK, what mode are you setting it to and how?
[14:28] <vadimkolchev> Digital_Pioneer, i set it to 10baseT-HD mode using mii-tool
[14:28] <jrib> dev2: yeah, the same thing will happen with grep if you omit the "--color=always" (because it is "auto" instead of "always" by default on ubuntu)
[14:29] <diverdude> when i have terminal window open and several subwindows in that terminal, its really rally hard to see which window is active if i look at the tabs in the top of the window. Is there any way to show this more clearly - like changing font color of the title or something?
[14:30] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev: Interesting. So it's not detecting the connection type correctly. Well I don't know off the top of my head the "correct" way to fix that, but you can add your mii-tool command that sets it correctly to /etc/profile to have it automatically run at boot.
[14:30] <dev2> jrib: now that I dig deeper I see that rspec actually has an option to force color when piping.  Wonderful!
[14:30] <Ironwave> When I try to install my windows file server
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> geet: id make a 20Gb / with the same amout of swap space as you have RAM and a 30Gb /home. the rest set as a large NTFS partition so both OSes can share data.
[14:31] <Ironwave> package 'samba' is virtual
[14:31] <vadimkolchev> Digital_Pioneer, that's what i need for workaround not to have to issue the command manually. What are the needed steps to do it?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> geet: windows accesses few file systems so you will need to accomodate its shortcomings
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> !info samba
[14:31] <Ironwave> Then the instalation fail
[14:32] <diverdude> anyone?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> ironwave: samba isnt virtual. its a 4mb package of binaries
[14:32] <Ironwave> :-p
[14:32] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: tell that to my pc that give me the error
[14:32] <Geet_> ActionParsnip, is this possible- 100gb win7,30gb ubuntu root, 4gb swap, and the rest as /home?
[14:33] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev: Just add the mii-tool command you're using to the file /etc/profile, at the end.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> geet: sure but files in /home will be inaccessibe in windows
[14:33] <dev2> diverdude: I think this was a reported issue.  I'm not sure but a newer version of gnome-terminal (not sure if thats what you're using) might fix it
[14:33] <vadimkolchev> Digital_Pioneer, ok, i'll try it, thanks. but will it be issued before the interface is brought up?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> ironwave: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[14:34] <diverdude> dev2, mm i see...which version is it fixed in?
[14:34] <Geet_> ActionParsnip, does /home have to be ext type?
[14:34] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: shall I put thatinto the command prompt?
[14:34] <dev2> diverdude: I could easily be mistaken but I think the version that comes with U 12.04 fixes it...  not sure though
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> geet: it cannot be ntfs, it needs to be a linux filesystem of some sort
[14:35] <diverdude> dev2, mmm im running 12.04
[14:35] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev: That, I'm not sure of...
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> ironwave: yes, what is output please?
[14:35] <Geet_> ActionParsnip, so there is no way windows can read/write to ext4?
[14:35] <Geet_> i mean linux file systems
[14:35] <th0r> Geet_: you might create a smaller /home, then create a fairly large ntfs partition. You can then map the folders in that ntfs parition (such as Pictures, Music, etc) as folders inside /home
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> geet: this is why a shared ntfs partition storing all data is handy, although sharing ntfs using samba is far from painless
[14:36] <Digital_Pioneer> Ahh, he's already gone. Oops. Just realized profile is the wrong file. xP
[14:36] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> geet: no, windows cannot read ext4
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> ironwave: ok, run: sudo apt-get install samba ,pastebin the output please
[14:36] <vadimkolchev> Digital_Pioneer, it didn't help
[14:37] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: Thanks, Ill try
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> geet: funny how ubuntu can write to ntfs despite it being proprietart and its detal hidden away, but windows cannot do anything with ext4 deapite its detail being fully available
[14:37] <nabblet> disabled or last state, there is a button for wifi, but it does not react - it worked under windows
[14:38] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: Reading package lists... Done
[14:38] <Ironwave> Building dependency tree
[14:38] <Ironwave> Reading state information... Done
[14:38] <Ironwave> Package samba is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[14:38] <Ironwave> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[14:38] <Ironwave> is only available from another source
[14:38] <FloodBot1> Ironwave: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <dev2> diverdude: maybe something like this? http://harts.net/reece/2013/02/26/highlighting-the-active-tab-in-gnome-terminal/
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> ironwave: didnt i say use a pastebin. i seem to remeber i did......
[14:38] <nabblet> hi, my wireless is hardware switched off. enalbling it in bios not possivle (only options are last state or disabled) and the button does not work :(
[14:39] <nabblet> any ideas
[14:39] <Geet_> ActionParsnip, currently i have one ext4 partition of 20gb and windows can read from it. i m using something ext2 volume manager.. but don't have right access. but maybe that's because it's root partition.
[14:39] <nabblet> wireless worked under windows
[14:39] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: :-p Im new at this, dont know what paste bin is. Sorry
[14:39] <Darkchaos> Is there a package supporting apple macbook pad? And isn't +q channel operator? :D
[14:39] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev: Yeah, sorry about that, /etc/profile isn't the right place to put that. My mistake. Put it in /etc/rc.local instead.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ironwave: didnt think to ASK?
[14:39] <Geet_> th0r, but will sharing be possible of the ntfs drive from ubuntu?
[14:40] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: I thought its just a paste of the command lines. Sorry
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> geet_: there may be 3rd party apps. a shared ntfs partition makes things easier between the two
[14:40] <th0r> Geet_: yes, you can store 'data' on the ntfs parition. Music files, photos, things like that
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> ironwave: if you see something you are unsure of, ask. it makes things easier and you learn
[14:41] <Geet_> ActionParsnip, but as i said if i want to share movies. So will I have to login into windows at that time?
[14:41] <Ironwave> Thanks
[14:41] <th0r> Geet_: linux can read and write to ntfs drives, but ntfs cannot support 'permissions' so what you can put on it is limited as far a linux is concerned.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ironwave: ubottu gave a link, post your text there and hit paste. when the page changes copy the new address in the address bar and paste that in the channel
[14:41] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700395/
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> geet_: i guess
[14:42] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: Like this?
[14:42] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev_: Did you get my last message? Your nick changed. :P
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> ironwave: yes, see how you gave all that text and you didnt flood the channel
[14:42] <vadimkolchev_> Digital_Pioneer, no, sorry, I didn't
[14:42] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev_: You'll want to move that command from /etc/profile to /etc/rc.local -- I gave you the wrong file before, I'm sorry.
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> geet_: you could share with a media streamer like plex or xbmc in ubuntu
[14:42] <Norrin> i forgot; what is it called when the kernel is compiled for > 1 cpu  ?
[14:43] <Ironwave> I not too fimmiliar with ircs. Didnt know about flood.
[14:43] <Digital_Pioneer> Norrin: smp?
[14:43] <Norrin> yes!
[14:43] <Norrin> thanks
[14:43] <japro> so uh, on the gnome desktop how is the stuff in the top right called? (date etc.)
[14:43] <Digital_Pioneer> Norrin: NP. :)
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> !info samba
[14:43] <japro> for some reason on my desktop these thingies are gone and i'm at a loss what to search for
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> ironwave: weird. its in the maon repo..
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> main
[14:44] <Geet_> th0r, I have another win xp desktop. so if i am using ubuntu, will the desktop have access to the files in the ntfs partition?
[14:44] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: info samba go to terminal?
[14:44] <th0r> Geet_: yes, the ntfs partition should show up like an additional drive in windows, like drive E: or some such
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ironwave: you could manually download the deb from packages.ubuntu.com
[14:45] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: But if its allready there, as you say, will it help to d/l it again?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> geet_: xp is eol soon too. id think about upgrading it soon
[14:45] <fellayaboy> hey i have a radeon hd 4250 i tried to get the hardware driver but it doesnt work can someone help me..im using ubuntu 13.04
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ironwave: if what is already there
[14:45] <Salamandertits> hi
[14:46] <Geet_> ActionParsnip, i have non-media files also. I was thinking the following. win7 100gb, ubuntu 30gb, /home rest of the harrddisk. So can /home be shared over the network to a windows computer?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> fellayboy: i believe you need the legacy fglrx ppa
[14:46] <Fieldy> fellayaboy: unfortunately ATI does a very poor job of supporting their cards on linux. it's the typical experience trying to use ATI with ATIs drivers in linux
[14:46] <vadimkolchev> Digital_Pioneer, sorry, still nothing
[14:46] <Geet_> ActionParsnip, ya was planning to put win7 on that machine too. :)
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> geet_: sure you can share folders with samba
[14:46] <Fieldy> there might be some sort of 3rd party / open driver somebody is aware of (I don't happen to know)
[14:46] <fellayaboy> i heard u can rollback somehow so u can get it
[14:47] <Salamandertits> im trying to install a deb package and im getting this msg: dependency not satisfiable libglig2.0-0 (2.35.9)
[14:47] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev: OK, so maybe it's bringing the interface up before running rc.local, causing the mode change to fail. I assume you are manually bringing the interface down before manually setting the mode?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> fellayboy: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[14:47] <Geet_> ActionParsnip, and is it
[14:47] <vadimkolchev> Digital_Pioneer, no, i just append needed mode and it works
[14:48] <Salamandertits> the package im trying to install is the intel drivers: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> salamanertits: then you need a deb or ppa for that to satisy deps
[14:48] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev: Append it to what?
[14:48] <Geet_> ActionParsnip, and is it possible to install programs to /home?
[14:48] <vadimkolchev> Digital_Pioneer, sorry, I just issue the command I need to change mode and do not do anything else
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> geek_: not packaged ones no, manually installed ones may be installed in /home
[14:48] <fellayaboy> thank u very much actionparsnip
[14:48] <Salamandertits> any help pls?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> geet_: you dont select install folders like in windows.
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> salamandertits: there is a gui for that. omgubuntu has a how to guide
[14:49] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev: Interesting... And you're sure you really want 10BaseT? That's really old/slow.
[14:50] <Geet_> ActionParsnip, ya that's why. can the default path be changed?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> digital_pioneer: sometimes its needed
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Geet_: not without repackaging, no
[14:50] <Geet_> ActionParsnip, anyway .. will 30gb be enough for ubuntu?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> geet_: sure. my / is only about 5Gb used
[14:50] <vadimkolchev> Digital_Pioneer, it is the only mode that works, however the nic is rather new. This problem persist in linux and unix for years with the same line of nics and no-one cares, as far as i understand, they just buy a new nic, lol
[14:50] <fellayaboy> nvidia would be the better optionfor linux support.. and basically the only correct
[14:51] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: Will this do? Package samba-common---------raring (net): common files used by both the Samba server and client-------------2:3.6.9-1ubuntu1: all
[14:51] <anev> anyone experiecing issues booting ubuntu iso in vmware?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> ironwave: shoukd be ok
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> anev: did you MD5 test it?
[14:51] <Geet_> ActionParsnip, what format for /home?
[14:51] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: ill quickly get it. Thanks.
[14:51] <Salamandertits> ActionParsnip: here it is:
[14:51] <anev> ActionParsnip: yeah, correct md5
[14:51] <Salamandertits> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05252013-035113pm.php
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> anev: also ask in the vmware channel to
[14:52] <anev> ActionParsnip: kk thanks
[14:52] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev: OK, well that sucks, lol. I just wanted to be sure you know why you're using that mode. Also, have you tried using ethtool instead of mii-tool? mii-tool is very deprecated.
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> geet_: ext4 is fast and reliable. its also used by default. i'd stick with that
[14:52] <dominic_> does someone tell me what does it mean : hello.c:9:1: error: expected identifier or ‘(’ before ‘~’ token
[14:53] <vanishing> dominic_: pastebinit?
[14:53] <dominic_> what
[14:53] <nabblet> hi, how can i turn on the bardware switch of my wifi? bios and some fn+fX key combinations were fuitle. there is no extra switch :(
[14:53] <vadimkolchev> Digital_Pioneer, well, it was not present in live media so I had to figure out how to use mii-tool, but really in other distros I just disabled autonegotiation using ethtool
[14:53] <vanishing> pastebinit hello.c
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: sudo rfkill unblock all
[14:54] <dominic_> #include <stdio.h>
[14:54] <dominic_> main()
[14:54] <dominic_> {
[14:54] <dominic_> printf("Hello, world!\n");
[14:54] <dominic_> return 0;
[14:54] <dominic_> }
[14:54] <FloodBot1> dominic_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:54] <nabblet> ActionParsnip: didn't work
[14:54] <Geet_> ActionParsnip, and generally in windows I used to make separate partitions for movies games .. separate for software setups.. etc. I read somewhere this is a better approach for avoiding much fragmentation and avoids hard disk wear or something. so is that needed for ext4?
[14:54] <nabblet> ActionParsnip: hard blcok still yes :(
[14:54] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev: Yeah, I guess ethtool still isn't usually shipping. Dismal. :P Anyways, I found this page which might help you: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-add-ethtool-duplex-settings-permanent.html
[14:54] <vadimkolchev> Digital_Pioneer, ok, sorry, gtg. Thanks a lot for your help
[14:55] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev: You'll want to skip down a ways to the Debian/Ubuntu section (the first part is for Red Hat)
[14:55] <Salamandertits> thx for help
[14:55] <Digital_Pioneer> vadimkolchev: OK, good luck. :)
[14:55] <Salamandertits> clueless
[14:55] <scalability-junk> anyone has an idea how to setup dual boot with windows 7 and ubuntu 13.04? Did a fresh windows installation and still the windows installation is not recognized by the ubuntu installer :(
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> nabblet: do you dual boot the system?
[14:55] <scalability-junk> secure boot is off
[14:55] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: It says on the site, I should use something to download it with, like synaptic. I went to the synaptic link, but what do I use to download and install synaptic then if it should not be done directly from the site, if you please?
[14:56] <Myrtti> !pastebin | dominic_
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> scalability: resize your NTFS in windows and chkdsk it, then try
[14:56] <vanishing> dominic_: try putting "int" in front of main
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ironwave: you can install debs in cli or via double click
[14:56] <scalability-junk> ActionParsnip: ok so boot into windows do a resize of ntfs and chkdsk alright let's try that
[14:56] <vanishing> dominic_: and thats why i told you to use pastebinit
[14:56] <vanishing> lol
[14:57] <betrayd> ilesson #1 ^
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> dominuc_: or void before main:   void main(void)
[14:57] <heylel> ola
[14:57] <dominic_> i didnt know what is was
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> scalability-junk: sure. windows can resize its own partitions
[14:59] <dominic_> i used pastebin
[14:59] <Orpheon> Hello. I want to use libpng in a C project I'm making with codeblocks. Do I have to link it directly to the .so found somewhere in /usr, or is there a simpler method?
[15:00] <k1l_> dominic_: dont post that stuff in here. just show us the link from the pastebin
[15:00] <vanishing> ^
[15:00] <Digital_Pioneer> Orpheon: Typically you'll want your build system (autotools, cmake, qmake, etc.) take care of that for you. Do you know what build system you're using?
[15:00] <dominic_> i did
[15:00] <vanishing> and pastebinit does that
[15:00] <k1l_> dominic_: no, you did paste the stuff in here. that is why you got muted
[15:00] <Orpheon> Digital_Pioneer, no, using whatever codeblocks set up for me by default
[15:00] <vanishing> dominic_: you pasted the whole main function here
[15:01] <k1l_> !paste | dominic_
[15:01] <dominic_> ok i paste something in pastebin
[15:02] <anev> ActionParsnip: hrm, booted up now but the dsektop hasn't appeared correctly nor can i do anything ;/
[15:03] <Digital_Pioneer> Orpheon: OK, well I don't know what build system Code::Blocks uses by default, so you'll probably be best off just adding the .so file to CB's list of libraries to link against.
[15:04] <Orpheon> ok
[15:04] <Orpheon> thanks
[15:04] <Digital_Pioneer> Orpheon: Looks like you right click your project name->Build Options->Linker and add it to the Link Libraries list.
[15:04] <scalability-junk> ActionParsnip: resized win parition did a ch... run and still the partitions and windows 7 is not recognized by ubuntu :(
[15:05] <recursion> hats off to platform idependent coders
[15:05] <Digital_Pioneer> If you don't know already.
[15:05] <Orpheon> Digital_Pioneer, yeah, I just have to find it
[15:06] <Digital_Pioneer> Orpheon: Look file files like /usr/lib/libpng.so*
[15:06] <Digital_Pioneer> Look for* files...
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> scalability-junk: that was quick. is it only a small partition?
[15:06] <Orpheon> ok
[15:07] <shanky_> hi can someone help in ubuntu 12.04 unity 3d
[15:07] <scalability-junk> 30gb
[15:07] <scalability-junk> now 29gb
[15:07] <scalability-junk> with the usual 100mb system partition
[15:07] <scalability-junk> and the rest is unallocated
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> scalability-junk: and you rebooted so the check could run?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> shanky_: just ask
[15:08] <scalability-junk> rebooted twice, but let's try another run :)
[15:09] <shanky_> i have installed ubuntu 12.04 and having rendering problems in my hp pavilion g7-1260 us.Don't no what to do?
[15:09] <dominic_> i dont understand on to use pastebin
[15:10] <k1l_> dominic_: its like uploadeing a picture. put the text in it. press send. get a link. show the link in here
[15:11] <scalability-junk> ActionParsnip: nope still nothing in the ubuntu installer
[15:12] <scalability-junk> anything I could try from the ubuntu live os?
[15:12] <dominic_> Paste from dominic at Sat, 25 May 2013 16:12:40 +0100
[15:13] <k1l_> dominic_: we need the url
[15:13] <vanishing> lols..
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> scalabity-junk: if you run: sudo fdisk -l ,do you see the partition?
[15:13] <dominic_> i dont see any
[15:13] <betrayd> something tells me dominic should habg around  more often
[15:13] <vanishing> dominic_: press f6 in browser, press ctrl c
[15:13] <betrayd> hang* ^
[15:13] <vanishing> and come back here, paste, enter
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> dominic_: the link is the new address in the address bar
[15:14] <dominic_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700505/
[15:15] <scalability-junk> ActionParsnip: strange thing so is that I have 2 partitions (ntfs) showing up when doing fdisk -l
[15:15] <scalability-junk> in the live os
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> dominic_: change line 3 to: void main (void)
[15:15] <scalability-junk> but it seems it doesn't matter to the installer :(
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> scalability: try mounting thr ntfs, then run the installer
[15:16] <dominic_> what void means
[15:16] <vanishing> ActionParsnip: that wont work, he had return 0;
[15:16] <vanishing> dominic_: it means function return nothing
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> dominuc_: you can then remove the reurn value, you didnt even tell main you were returning a value
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> dominic_: if you want the return, use: int main (void)
[15:17] <dominic_> i try to learn on internet
[15:18] <dominic_> it is my first shot
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> dominic_: the void in the brackets are the arguments sent. main will usually take none but it can use some
[15:18] <dominic_> i just copy from the web
[15:18] <scalability-junk> ActionParsnip: both ntfs partitions mounted and installer still hates me :P
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> dominic_: id ask in a programming channel
[15:19] <dominic_> do you know a good channe;
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> dominic_: #programming ? too obvious?
[15:20] <comodo_dragon> i am looking for a software that edits scanned pdf  documents, to make them look legit. i.e. edit text, date  etc. your help is appreciated.
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> comodo_dragon: pdfedit
[15:20] <vanishing> comodo_dragon: something shady huh? XD
[15:20] <surfdaemon> >look legit
[15:21] <comodo_dragon> actionparsnip thanks, i am gonna see it
[15:21] <comodo_dragon> any othe rsuggestions ?
[15:21] <vanishing> comodo_dragon: whiteout...:D
[15:21] <Phryq> hey, when I try to install virtualbox I get a dependency error. I think I need to enable more repositories.
[15:22] <Phryq> anyone know how I can do that?
[15:22] <shanky_> nobody to help
[15:22] <betrayd> ...and a good pokerface
[15:23] <vanishing> betrayd: thats essential
[15:23] <vanishing> lol
[15:24] <betrayd> 'Yes Your Honor'
[15:24] <scalability-junk> anyone else has an idea why ubuntu doesn't recognize my windows 7 installation even when the 2 partitions are mounted and clearly showing up...
[15:24] <scalability-junk> ?
[15:25] <betrayd> maybe its the win7 enccryption in effect, size indicate anything there?
[15:25] <k1l_> Phryq: show the error in a pastebin
[15:26] <Phryq> http://pastie.org/7958014
[15:26] <shanky_> anybody has idea of what i asked?
[15:27] <scalability-junk> betrayd: no encryption in place I mounted the partitions and have full access
[15:27] <scalability-junk> will try with fixparts now...
[15:27] <vanishing> shanky_: whats your question?
[15:28] <Phryq> can I rant for a minute about how frustrated I am with computers in general?
[15:28] <shanky_> i have installed ubuntu 12.04 and having rendering problems in my hp pavilion g7-1260 us.Don't no what to do?
[15:30] <scalability-junk> yippie fixparts has done it \o/
[15:30] <scalability-junk> wow why didn't I try that before erasing one full system and 2 half done ones :(
[15:31] <Phryq> I've been trying to update to 13.04 for a week, and finally decided to just back everything up and re-install, because my computer is so buggy. But it wouldn't boot from my flash drive, so after trouble shooting that I decided to just go with Windoze. I downloaded it, but my CD burner isn't working right. I really want to run virtualbox (which hasn't worked the past 3 days), and so I've given up on getting a new OS, but I still can't get virtualbox to work. I do
[15:31] <Phryq> n't want to spend my life fixing my PC, I have too many other things to do! And I know if I switch back to Windows it'll be just as bad or worse!
[15:31] <zedos> hello, I'm having trouble with my ppc ubuntu, when I plugin an usb drive it does not show up in fdisk -l, but it shows up in lsmod, also if I force mount I can have access to the drive
[15:33] <shanky_> can somebody reply ?
[15:34] <Ahmedo> hello , can i make my own linux distro based on ubuntu ?
[15:36] <auronandace> Ahmedo: you can but i'm not sure why you'd want to, also this channel is just for support issues (you won't get help with making distros here)
[15:37] <zedos> can anyone help me?
[15:37] <bora> hey
[15:37] <bora> anyone having problems with google chrome?
[15:38] <auronandace> bora: chrome is a ppa, ppas are unsupported here
[15:38] <bora> I always get the error "your profile could not be opened correctly"
[15:38] <bora> just wondered if anyone ran into a similar problem
[15:38] <vanishing> bora: kill chrome and try again
[15:38] <bora> that does not work
[15:39] <vanishing> if that doesnt work, try renaming the profile folder and copy it back again
[15:39] <vanishing> bora: by kill, i mean kill everything chrome related
[15:39] <zedos> hello, I'm having trouble with my ppc ubuntu, when I plugin an usb drive it does not show up in fdisk -l, but it shows up in lsmod, also if I force mount I can have access to the drive
[15:39] <vanishing> do a ps aux | grep chrome
[15:39] <bora> killall chrome?
[15:39] <auronandace> !ppc | zedos
[15:39] <bora> restarting the computer, uninstalling and reinstalling did not work
[15:40] <Ahmedo> auronandace , because i want to make my own tools , and use them anywahere everywhere , with any one to share with.
[15:40] <Nisstyre> What is the most convenient way of managing sound levels on the commandline without using an ncurses-type app?
[15:40] <recurrent> ppc, you're beating a dead horse and i have one
[15:40] <vanishing> bora: it is permission related problem
[15:40] <vanishing> bora: move the profile folder to another name
[15:40] <vanishing> and copy it back
[15:40] <zedos> i see, but i think this is not a PPC ubuntu related issue, i found several posts online with people that had the same problem, none of the solutions worked though
[15:40] <auronandace> Ahmedo: and why does that require you making a distro based on ubuntu?
[15:41] <bora> nice tip, I will do that thanks
[15:41] <Loki_> Greetings. I would like to know, how can I set an icon theme in KDE from terminal?
[15:41] <Ahmedo> ubuntu is the most stable linux distro for a user interface
[15:41] <Ahmedo> auronadace
[15:42] <Loki_> Ahmedo: Hardly.. (no offense)
[15:42] <auronandace> Ahmedo: whats that got to do with you making your own tools?
[15:42] <Guest67110> Hi, whats the name of the standart development packege ?ß I allways forget it
[15:42] <Loki_> Greetings. I would like to know, how can I set an icon theme in KDE from terminal?
[15:42] <Ahmedo> auronandace , reposotries , tools , tex
[15:42] <Ahmedo> tec
[15:42] <Ahmedo> etc
[15:42] <gerhard> Hi, what does a greyout user mean in gnome-xchat?
[15:43] <Ahmedo> auronandace , for my offices users.
[15:43] <Loki_> Anybody know how can I do it? I cannot install ubuntu tweak on kubuntu, right?
[15:44] <auronandace> Ahmedo: that makes no sense, if you want them to use the ubuntu repos then why don't they just use ubuntu?
[15:44] <auronandace> Ahmedo: why do you have to make a derivative?
[15:44] <Ahmedo> auronadace , i want them to use my own tools , and settings
[15:44] <auronandace> Ahmedo: why not just make whatever tools you need and package them for inclusion in the ubuntu repos?
[15:47] <gerhard> Guest67110, build-essential?
[15:47] <linuxthefish> how the hell do i change my desktop background???
[15:47] <funch> :D
[15:48] <recurrent> how do i test if i have installed ubuntu perfectly?
[15:48] <binBlob> gerhard: sounds like it, thanx
[15:48] <auronandace> recurrent: does it boot?
[15:48] <linuxthefish> wait, apperance setting is back now...
[15:48] <linuxthefish> stupid buggd ubuntu
[15:49] <recurrent> <12.04 with Qt 4 running in Virtualbox
[15:49] <shanky_> i am having rendering problem on my machine having ubnutu 12.04
[15:49] <binBlob> recurrent: there is no perfectly ... allways depends on what you need
[15:50] <binBlob> recurrent: did you install the guest addons ? I have to do the same right now for kubuntu
[15:50] <Ironwave> Hi, im trying to install synaptics. On ubuntu software centre, I get a message "Dependancy is not satisfieable"
[15:51] <jenev> hello everyone
[15:51] <jenev> I'm am having trouble connecting to my home network
[15:51] <jenev> I can connect to open networks but not my own
[15:52] <binBlob> jenev: wlan or cable connection ?
[15:52] <Ironwave> Boolean: Im trying to install synaptics. On ubuntu software centre, I get a message "Dependancy is not satisfieable" Could you help out maybe?
[15:52] <recurrent> binBlob,  i tried guest addons , but not yet working
[15:53] <jenev> My home network uses 64-bit WEP (and yes I know it is insecure but there are certain devices connected to it that can't use any other type of security)
[15:53] <jenev> binBlob, wlan
[15:53] <binBlob> recurrent: dont forget that you need to have build-essentials installed, in order to build the module
[15:53] <jenev> I have the dmesg output from connecting to an open network and one from connecting to my home network
[15:54] <Ironwave> Actionparsnip: Im trying to install synaptics. On ubuntu software centre, I get a message "Dependancy is not satisfieable" Could you help out maybe?
[15:54] <binBlob> jenev: did you check what you wlan router is saying ? I configured my to accept only known mac-adresses, check that
[15:55] <Guest40605> hello guyzzzz...
[15:55] <recurrent> binBlob,  guest addons is appearing to install, i suppose because of updating 12.04
[15:55] <Guest40605> any good text editor for ubuntu?
[15:55] <jbroome> gedit
[15:56] <vanishing> vim
[15:56] <Guest40605> does gedit has the capability to write html, xml?
[15:56] <vanishing> sublime text
[15:56] <binBlob> kate ... but i think it needs kde
[15:56] <vanishing> Guest40605: any one of them has
[15:56] <jbroome> Guest40605: since html and xml are plain text, yes gedit will do that
[15:56] <k1l_> !find editor
[15:56] <Nisstyre> vanishing: is 70 dollars if you want to get rid of the annoying popup
[15:57] <k1l_> Guest40605: see the bot
[15:57] <vanishing> Nisstyre: already done that..
[15:57] <vanishing> Nisstyre: and i have to say, I don't regret it
[15:57] <fathands> Nisstyre: freedom is not really free.
[15:58] <Nisstyre> vanishing: I'm just going to learn how to use vim more effectively
[15:58] <vanishing> Nisstyre: haha, you have to
[15:58] <vanishing> sublime text cannot replace vim
[15:58] <fathands> vanishing: stop it now
[15:59] <vanishing> fathands: huh?
[15:59] <shanky_> ads
[15:59] <shanky_> asd
[15:59] <shanky_> ad
[15:59] <shanky_> adad
[15:59] <FloodBot1> shanky_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:59] <k1l_> lets put the editor-flamewar into the #ubuntu-offtopic channel :)
[15:59] <shanky_> ubuntu problem
[16:00] <Nisstyre> k1l_: what flamewar?
[16:00] <Nisstyre> I think sublimetext is a nice editor, I just don't have 70 dollars to burn
[16:00] <fathands> Nisstyre: your off topic louse
[16:00] <vanishing> fathands: why did you call me a rat liar? o.o
[16:00] <binBlob> well wy should one there are many nice editors
[16:01] <k1l_> fathands: calm down, please
[16:01] <vanishing> anything I say that is a lie?
[16:01] <vanishing> said*
[16:01] <k1l_> Nisstyre: yes, but that is where it usually ends. so lets skip that part :)
[16:01] <fathands> vanishing: your off topic to lose
[16:01] <recurrent> what you have just said is true
[16:01] <fathands> vanishing: your off topic to louse
[16:01] <vanishing> fathands: but am I lying?
[16:01] <OerHeks> guys lets move on with support or join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:02] <shanky_> no one reply's ...asking very late
[16:02] <vanishing> shanky_: sry, have been scrolling up, but didnt see your question
[16:03] <recurrent> case of the help me no subject question
[16:03] <OerHeks> shanky_, we are hungry for details, please.
[16:03] <shanky_> my laptop installed ubuntu 12.04 having rendering problem...sometimes become unstable
[16:04] <vanishing> its kinda vague as a question
[16:04] <vanishing> but general direction would be graphic driver, compiz, etc
[16:05] <binBlob> what graphics card do you have ? which drivers ? What rendering problem do you see .... ?
[16:05] <shanky_> intel sandy bridge
[16:06] <shanky_> most of time it hangs and then screen displays wierdly
[16:07] <vanishing> shanky_: anything intel related in logs?
[16:07] <binBlob> yust out of nowhere ?
[16:07] <binBlob> if it hands something might eat up your cpu power
[16:08] <shanky_> sorry but can i get to see those logs
[16:08] <shanky_> ubuntu 2d is working perfectly but not 3d
[16:11] <Prints> Hi , im new, noob to linux based OSs, i do have a version of ubuntu on a flash drive. Yet hesitant to proceed, having my foot in the door but afraid to open it, more or less.
[16:11] <binBlob> Prints: try the live system
[16:11] <Prints> i have a relative with kubuntu on his comp he inherited from a former veterinarian hospital, would like to be able to help him.
[16:11] <purplerain> shanky_: i guess your graphic card is cool enough to run Unity, are you upgrading the kernel to 3.5? cuz i used to have similar problem since upgrading to kernel 3.5
[16:11] <Prints> binBlob live system?
[16:12] <vanishing> Prints: any reason keeping you from linux?
[16:12] <Prints> ive been an irc user since 1996, ready to move away from ms
[16:12] <binBlob> Prints: yes most distros offer a live system that can be booted without changing anything on your computer
[16:12] <betrayd> then you can leave/quit and your pc remains 'untouched' -- nothing installed
[16:13] <k1l_> Prints: just ask a specific question :)
[16:13] <Prints> ah okay, hmm
[16:13] <shanky_> no its 3.2.0.23-generic -pae
[16:13] <recurrent> we can speculate all day
[16:14] <Prints> any specific live system suggested for a newbie like myself? so many distros out there, i get confused then hesitate to a halt.
[16:14] <vanishing> Prints: you are in #ubuntu right? ;)
[16:14] <purplerain> well you ask in #Ubuntu people most likely will recommend Ubuntu
[16:14] <Prints> im working with 2gb ram on a laptop, with about 100gb storage, dual core.
[16:15] <jenev> binBlob, sorry for the late reply
[16:15] <jenev> but that's not the issue (with accepting know MAC addresses)
[16:15] <betrayd> Prints once you're familiar with how live Cd or liveUSB systems work, you can try out the other ones
[16:15] <jenev> because the adapter works fine on windows
[16:15] <jenev> also these are the dmesg outputs
[16:16] <Prints> thought perhaps my system stats might have bearing on what i need to do.
[16:16] <jenev> home network --> http://pastebin.com/3KaST8TA
[16:16] <Prints> taking notes
[16:16] <auronandace> Prints: a vm is a perfect testing ground
[16:16] <jenev> sorry that should be...
[16:16] <jenev> open network --> http://pastebin.com/3KaST8TA
[16:16] <jenev> home network --> http://pastebin.com/pNayUxNF
[16:17] <jenev> as you can see for the home network, this line is present...
[16:17] <jenev> cfg80211: Calling CRDA for country: US
[16:17] <njalk> Prints I'm running Ubuntu on a laptop with similar specs, works like a charm
[16:17] <jenev> whereas it isn't present in the connection to the open network
[16:18] <Prints> nice, would like to get there myself, i have xubuntu on my thumb/flash drive
[16:18] <jenev> and it's after that line that everything goes south and seems to keep looping over the same process
[16:18] <vanishing> Prints: thats a smart choice
[16:19] <njalk> if you have it on your flash drive you could just put the flashdrive in you computer and reboot, it should start up xubuntu so you could test it
[16:20] <recurrent> just installed ubuntu 12.04 Qt 4 IDE , Xchat on virtual box on windows 7, very pleased
[16:20] <Prints> ive got computer issues in general, running windows, just started to clean up some issues because i started playing swtor, was lagging so bad, had this newer laptop since november, started to clean it, and it's ending up like doing a biopsy on a cancer
[16:20] <Prints> i pricked the cancer in the comp, now its spreading viral like spider cancer, so many issues im getting im about going nuts.
[16:20] <rypervenche> Prints: On the Windows side?
[16:21] <Prints> rypervenche thats all ive been used to since i got on the net, ms windows, from win 3.11 to win 8 im using now
[16:22] <iagocallegario> Hi
[16:22] <no_gravity> Good Evening! Can I put multiple different ubuntu installers on one usb stick? By putting each in one partition and then setting the bootable flag in one of them via gparted or so?
[16:23] <Prints> so how should i start?
[16:23] <recurrent> defrag
[16:23] <Prints> i just plugged my usb in and got an error message something was wrong with it.
[16:24] <binBlob> no_gravity: try yummi
[16:24] <Prints> supposedly defrag runs in the background continually on win8, i dont even have a start button. im so ticked at ms and these issues im ready to dump ms windows altogether for doing anything online.
[16:24] <binBlob> no_gravity: its only for win though, try wine if you haven't one
[16:25] <Prints> i prefer having more control over defrag, scan disk , disk clean. to choose when it should run.
[16:26] <recurrent> lol, i been using windows since 3.1 and never paid for it
[16:26] <no_gravity> binBlob: whats yummi?
[16:26] <Prints> recurrent all my windows OSs came with the computers i purchased, always came with a backup OS cd till this laptop i got last november with win 8
[16:27] <binBlob> no_gravity: a programm that lets you install multiple bootable isos on a usbstick
[16:28] <recurrent> we can thank windows for stifling creativity for how many years?
[16:28] <no_gravity> binBlob: theres no way using linux?
[16:28] <binBlob> wine
[16:28] <no_gravity> binBlob: what about the bootable flag of partitions? doesnt it work anymore these days?
[16:28] <Prints> recurrent windows has taken more and more power away from the home user with each new OS they produce.
[16:28] <binBlob> no_gravity: dunno about that
[16:29] <betrayd> binBlob: it doesn't do what you think it does
[16:29] <yeehi> What is an easy way to automatically back up bookmarks/extensions used in Firefox? Is there something better than FEBE?
[16:29] <binBlob> betrayd: ?
[16:29] <rypervenche> Prints: Are you tryingto install Linux or fix your Windows machine?
[16:30] <Prints> ive got a copy of windows media player i got with win 3.11 that had a wav editor, i recorded my landlords voice when she was on the phone, and edited her speech to make it sound like something she never said
[16:30] <tones> yeehi, >export bookmarks, saved as an html file, put them on a usb thumb drive
[16:30] <OerHeks> Prints stop the rant please, and keep it to ubuntu support questions
[16:30] <harris> can i have a different ip address for every user
[16:30] <yeehi> Thanks, tones... can i do that for extensions, too?
[16:31] <Prints> rypervenche well both eventually, but since windows is being such a pain i figured id look into linux based OSs, considering even dumping windows entirely from this laptop
[16:31] <harris> OerHeks,
[16:31] <tones> yeehi, not sure about extensions, I think that is what febe is for
[16:31] <Prints> starting to learn xubuntu is why im here actually
[16:32] <OerHeks> harris, sure, any pc in your network should have an own ip adress
[16:32] <harris> no same computer
[16:32] <Prints> i feel unsecure about dual booting not really knowing anything about it.
[16:33] <harris> OerHeks, on same compouter
[16:33] <Prints> lacking instruction is my issue i guess, missing process sheet more or less.
[16:33] <recurrent> i say run it in virtual box until you are comfortable
[16:33] <Prints> wait someone did give me instruction... let me look at my notes..
[16:34] <OerHeks> harris you can disable the DHCP ip offered, and program a hard ip within the iprange of your router.
[16:34] <betrayd> Prints I wouldn't call it dualbooting unless it's already installed on the PC
[16:34] <Neikius> any way to get kde on ubuntu?
[16:35] <OerHeks> Neikius, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and change desktop @ login
[16:35] <vanishing> Neikius: !kde
[16:35] <vanishing> !kde | Neikius
[16:35] <recurrent> you dont get multiple ips for free, they would most likely allocated by your isp
[16:35] <Neikius> ah stupid me, I tried a while ago but since have added other repos thats why it didnt work before, thanks
[16:36] <Neikius> other sources I mean
[16:36] <OerHeks> Neikius, have fun
[16:37] <Neikius> got the impression it was removed or something XD
[16:37] <vanishing> Neikius: haha...thats highly unlikely as of now
[16:37] <Neikius> just btw, you need universe for this? I remember not having it before and apt-get kubuntu-desktop doing "package not found or removed"
[16:38] <Neikius> vanishing: really? some significant developement regarding desktops?
[16:38] <Neikius> i am totally out of touch regarding linux desktops...
[16:38] <Neikius> but I managed to solve that zfs +grub problem I was asking about hours earlier
[16:38] <vanishing> Neikius: nope, but remove kde from official repo is..well
[16:39] <vanishing> lets just say its like getting rid of gnome.
[16:39] <Prints> hmmm... incomplete notes on starting up first time ever trying dual booting with xubuntu on flash drive... is there a web page i can use as a process sheet , recommendable?
[16:39] <vanishing> Prints: incomplete notes?
[16:39] <tones> Prints, you could always get an old p4 off of craigslst
[16:40] <tones> or a dual core dimension for like $50
[16:40] <Prints> p4?
[16:40] <tones> pentium 4
[16:40] <Neikius> vanishing: yea, still, had to add some apt sources before I could get it, since I was doing some manual voodoo... the ordinary desktop was in there tho
[16:40] <tones> dell dimension that is
[16:40] <Prints> well i have spare computers older, but they are a 5 hour drive away to hometown, and my car wont start.
[16:40] <Neikius> anyway missing device.map is the answer to my question hours ago...
[16:41] <recurrent> Prints,  install Virtual box , alot easier to unwind than dual booting
[16:42] <Rarrikins> What's the command to upgrade to 13.04?
[16:42] <Neikius> do-release-upgrade
[16:42] <Prints> recurrent i have Virtual box already, but havent proceded beyond that
[16:42] <Neikius> but it upgrades only 1 version
[16:42] <Parsi> i'm screwed up
[16:42] <diverdude> dev2, thanks :)
[16:42] <Parsi> windows partition is damaged
[16:42] <Rarrikins> Neikius: Thanks.
[16:42] <Parsi> how can i fix it?
[16:43] <Prints> ill brb going to try to start my car, might just be condensation in fuel line from sitting all winter
[16:43] <Parsi> gpared put an exclumation mark on it
[16:43] <Neikius> Rarrikins: which version are you on? if you are on 12.04 lts you will have to do do-release-upgrade -d I think and then again when you are at 12.10
[16:44] <OerHeks> -d = development versioen 13.10, you don't want that, so "sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade"
[16:46] <dev2> diverdude: did it help?
[16:49] <recurrent> i can recently confire after clean install of 12.04 should do the huge release upgrade before anything else
[16:51] <Parsi> my windows partition is damaged http://inspic.com/DDA281A8 (gpared screenshot) how can i fix it?
[16:51] <Parsi> using syslinux to repair MBR damaged it
[16:52] <recurrent> windows 7 disk partition tool is diskpart
[16:52] <vanishing> platius: testdisk is pretty good i heard
[16:53] <daftykins> Parsi: sda6 is a windows install? which windows?
[16:53] <Rarrikins> Neikius: I'm on Lubuntu 12.10.
[16:53] <Parsi> Deftysins: yes, win7
[16:54] <esing> Do you also have this error "two or more packages specified (librxtx-java maverick-backports)" on this url: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick-backports/librxtx-java
[16:54] <vanishing> Parsi: wrong ping..lol..anyways try testdisk
[16:54] <Parsi> daftykins: any chance to back it to life? :/
[16:55] <daftykins> Parsi: hrmm, i take it the livecd has no idea what to do with it?
[16:56] <Parsi> daftykins: http://inspic.com/A7367319 now on testdisk
[16:56] <c00b> ello
[16:56] <daftykins> Parsi: is this a mac?
[16:56] <Parsi> yes
[16:57] <daftykins> ouch
[16:57] <daftykins> yet more confusion to the mix >_<
[16:57] <Parsi> i'm trying to triple boot
[16:57] <daftykins> did you have some data you need in the windows 7 install?
[16:57] <otak> esing: I don't think maverick is supported anymore
[16:57] <Parsi> yes!
[16:57] <daftykins> D:
[16:57] <Parsi> after using syslinux it's not accessible anymore :(
[16:58] <daftykins> Parsi: how do you mean 'using syslinux' ?
[16:58] <esing> otak, Thanks, so I  try to find the backports for  the packages in 13.04
[16:59] <Parsi> something like this syslinux if=/usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin of=/dev/sda
[16:59] <Parsi> sda6
[16:59] <Parsi> sudo dd if=/usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin of=/dev/sda6
[16:59] <Parsi> exactly this
[16:59] <c00b> i have a trouble with my instalation with my ubuntu, hang up on adding an user, bar stands up and nothing, any idea to rush instalation?
[16:59] <rgrinberg> how to run the ubuntu startup disk creator from the command line?
[17:00] <daftykins> Parsi: oh dear, that told it to write the mbr boot able of syslinux to the windows partition
[17:01] <echoe_> !offtopic
[17:01] <c00b> i have a trouble with my instalation with my ubuntu, hang up on adding an user, bar stands up and nothing, any idea to rush instalation?
[17:01] <daftykins> echoe_: what was that in aid of?
[17:01] <echoe_> [sorry, forgot if it had a _ or - and wanted to find it]
[17:02] <echoe_> so it was in aid of me forgetting the name of channels!
[17:02] <daftykins> ah ok
[17:02] <echoe_> c00b, I believe you should be able to add a user through the CLI with useradd? could help
[17:03] <c00b> thx,
[17:04] <c00b> but i worry about i should interrupt my whole instalation ;(
[17:04] <c00b> i working on live cd now
[17:04] <echoe_> oh.
[17:04] <c00b> on asus ee pc
[17:04] <c00b> netbook
[17:05] <daftykins> Parsi: can you tell me how big /usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin is?
[17:05] <Parsi> please!
[17:05] <Parsi> anyone?
[17:05] <c00b> I waiting a long time and I dont want wait again
[17:06] <Parsi> daftykins: 440 bytes
[17:07] <deezed> hey guys! I'm trying to backup an ubuntu's home folder of the other ubuntu distro that I have installed here, but if I try to copy it with nautilus, I receive a msg saying "can't copy special file". Do u know what can I do to copy everything properly?
[17:07] <c00b> ok I try, bye
[17:07] <daftykins> Parsi: if i were you i would 'dd' sda6 into an image file on a spare hard disk if you have one
[17:07] <daftykins> Parsi: i think you might need to use data recovery on that partition to try and recover your data :(
[17:08] <Parsi> why daftykins:-s?
[17:08] <daftykins> Parsi: i think writing over the start of the windows partition has stopped it looking like a normal NTFS partition, so it might not work again
[17:09] <karthik> hgello
[17:09] <daftykins> hi
[17:09] <karthik> can anybody help me setting up my apache and executing perl and php programs in it
[17:10] <Profeakti> hey one cuestion  i recently install ubuntu and install all my software from ubuntu soft center no have any strange app and is  clean instal i see some users recomendsinstall  rkhunter and when i said rk hunter check  send me two warnings i am worried and new here and dont speak english because that i reserch in google and dont understnd if it a false positive or not
[17:10] <Profeakti> the warnings are /usr/bin/unhide.rb [WARNING]
[17:10] <Profeakti> checking for hidden file directories [WARNING]
[17:10] <daftykins> karthik: there are loads of free guides online for that kind of thing
[17:11] <tipox> how would i remove with apt-get --purge y ?
[17:11] <daftykins> Profeakti: where are you from? there are language specific help channels
[17:11] <ChrisSc1> hi all
[17:11] <tipox> removing mysql, that is and all its componets to redo the installation?
[17:11] <ChrisSc1> I'm tryinig to install my pci-e serial card
[17:11] <daftykins> tipox: apt-get remove packagename --purge
[17:11] <ChrisSc1> lspci detects it as  Serial controller: NetMos Technology PCIe 9901 Multi-I/O Controller
[17:12] <Profeakti> fro mexico but in spanish chanel they dont say me if are a fp or not and in the english forum s are too complicated to me
[17:12] <ChrisSc1> but i cannot find, nor load the serial module
[17:12] <tipox> ok
[17:12] <vanishing> daftykins: hmm..i usually use apt-get purge
[17:12] <Parsi> i've tried win7 installation disk, even it cannot access that partition
[17:12] <vanishing> im too lazy..
[17:13] <daftykins> vanishing: same thing probably
[17:13] <tipox> daftykins: how would i make that command to remove all of mysql ?
[17:13] <ChrisSc1> can anybody advise me on what to do?
[17:13] <vanishing> apt-get purge mysql* probably
[17:13] <tipox> mysql-server mysql-client mysql-common etc..
[17:13] <vanishing> but dont run it just yet
[17:13] <tipox> k
[17:13] <vanishing> im not too sure
[17:13] <WeThePeople> does a libfontconfig1 >=2.9.0 even exist?
[17:13] <daftykins> tipox: depends the name of package you installed, mysql-server maybe, or what vanishing said
[17:13] <daftykins> Parsi: yeah i expect it can't identify it as being windows formatted anymore :(
[17:13] <tipox> mysql-server mysql-client mysql-common etc..
[17:14] <Voi> i installed 13.04 and it freezes on about every 3rd boot _after_ it completely started up on first program start
[17:15] <tipox> apt-get -y purge mysql*
[17:15] <tipox> would that remove all?
[17:15] <Parsi> daftykins: no way to fix it?
[17:15] <vanishing> i suggest never use -y
[17:16] <tipox> ok,
[17:16] <Profeakti> do you know if those warnings are drangerous?
[17:16] <daftykins> Parsi: i can't think of anything. so i'd take a backup image of the partition ASAP, then try some data recovery programs
[17:16] <vanishing> Parsi: im wondering have you listened to my advise
[17:16] <vanishing> on using testdisk
[17:16] <otak> esing: iirc maverick was 10.10 so lucid aka 10.04 might work
[17:17] <daftykins> vanishing: he linked to the output of it http://inspic.com/A7367319
[17:17] <peepsalot> i'm getting an error when running apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/5700885/
[17:17] <vanishing> i remember an article
[17:17] <vanishing> but can't find the link now
[17:18] <vanishing> google recover partition testdisk
[17:18] <tipox> when removing, it showed.
[17:18] <tipox> dpkg: warning: while removing mysql-common, directory '/etc/mysql' not empty so not removed.
[17:18] <tipox> Action 'configtest' failed.
[17:18] <tipox> The Apache error log may have more information.
[17:18] <tipox> Your apache2 configuration is broken, so we're not restarting it for you.
[17:19] <vanishing> tipox: you can ignore the apache note i think
[17:19] <tipox> vanishing do you perform, help through teamviewer sir?
[17:19] <vanishing> tipox: run sudo apt-get -f install
[17:20] <vanishing> see if there are any problem
[17:20] <Parsi> vanishing: which advice?
[17:20] <otak> peepsalot: weird, i get a gpg key from that address, do you have a dns problem?
[17:20] <tipox> vanishing: which would that command perform though?
[17:20] <vanishing> Parsi: oh...daftkins already showed me the output
[17:20] <peepsalot> otak, don't think so.  i can ping archive.canonical.com anyways
[17:21] <vanishing> tipox: a tip: apt-get --help | grep "-f"
[17:21] <vanishing> tipox: a tip: apt-get --help | grep "\-f"
[17:21] <vanishing> ^ correction
[17:22] <tipox> im logged in as root
[17:22] <tipox> so do i need sudo?
[17:22] <vanishing> nope..
[17:22] <tipox> root@irc:/etc/apache2# apt-get --help | grep "\-f"
[17:22] <tipox>   -f  Attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place
[17:22] <tipox> ;)
[17:22] <vanishing> the command is for find out what apt-get -f install means
[17:22] <tipox> what was the command, to run to check make sure again and sorry for my english
[17:23] <vanishing> tipox: sudo apt-get -f install
[17:23] <tipox> ill pastebin, to you
[17:23] <oscar01> mornin
[17:24] <tipox> vanishing: http://pastebin.com/tiC3UJ55
[17:24] <vanishing> morning
[17:24] <vanishing> tipox: seems fine
[17:25] <dobs2> anyone here a network specialist or something close to that? I'm having the stranges network troubles. I'll just describe it and if someone feels like it, just respond ;)
[17:25] <WeThePeople> support for ubuntu>>> http://pkgs.org/
[17:27] <peepsalot> otak, i changed dns to 8.8.8.8 and it works now *shrug*
[17:27] <Alocer> ty for the website it seems gr8 @WeThePeople
[17:27] <otak> hurray
[17:28] <recurrent> makes you wonder who's running the local dns
[17:29] <rts1> hi there
[17:29] <dobs2> i'm currently trying to find out why my windows machines lose their connection for 1-5 seconds every 10-60 minutes, while linux machines dont (same hardware 2 os, loses connection on win, doesnt on linux)
[17:30] <dobs2> might not be something directly linux/ubuntu related though
[17:30] <th0r> dobs2: windows doesn't work, linux does. Do you want us to tell you how to break linux?
[17:31] <Alocer> lol
[17:31] <TheLordOfTime> dobs2:  if you want windows help try ##windows
[17:31] <Prints> lol
[17:31] <TheLordOfTime> or call a technician
[17:31] <dobs2> well i'm using a ubuntu machine as router
[17:31] <TheLordOfTime> dobs2:  this channel is Ubuntu support
[17:31] <TheLordOfTime> not "Windows Network Diagnostics"
[17:31] <Guest12142> IoI
[17:31] <rts1> I need help whit ubuntu
[17:32] <Alocer> dobs2: there is nothing wrong with the router (Linux) its a windows wrong thing -- windows is always wrong --
[17:32] <Prints> Does anyone have an idea of what dual booting hotkey might be on an hp laptop?
[17:33] <Alocer> dobs2: there is sth else i m thinking .. internet speed in linux is always more than windows when you are  on Lan instead of Wlan ...
[17:34] <Prints> bbs im going to reboot until i find which is the hotkey
[17:34] <fathands> Alocer: same speed
[17:34] <dobs2> well my problem is to find a point at where to start looking. I guess it's most likely a windows problem anyways. but it might as well be a problem which is on the side of windows but can be fixed by something on the side of the router
[17:35] <dobs2> i've been googling for 2 days now
[17:35] <Alocer> dobs2: Wlan or Lan ?
[17:35] <dobs2> lan
[17:35] <dobs2> i only lose the inet connection, not the lan connection
[17:35] <Alocer> dobs2: both are connected to internet ?
[17:36] <Alocer> dobs2: what about the connection between these two .. swith ? any device ?
[17:36] <th0r> dobs2: I seem to recall something about windows not picking up the dns addresses correctly. try defining static dns in your windows box
[17:36] <dobs2> modem => switch => switch => router => back to switch => pc  (not ideal but dont have enough network cables atm)
[17:36] <dobs2> will try setting it to static
[17:37] <th0r> dobs2: not the ip...just the dns addresses
[17:37] <dobs2> yep i know
[17:37] <dobs2> or "i read that correctly" ;)
[17:37] <dobs2> hmm i actually already set the dns server to static
[17:37] <joelwallis> Hi. My Bash isn't autocompleting the service names anymore. What can be causing this?
[17:38] <dobs2> so that shouldnt be a problem
[17:38] <Neikius> hm where would be the entrypoint for boot scripts in initrd?
[17:38] <joelwallis> When I type "service ph" and press TAB I expect the terminal autocomplete it to "service php5-fpm" but it doesn't happen, nor for any other service name.
[17:39] <dobs2> joe => http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/01/28/turn-on-bash-smart-completion/ this?
[17:41] <Neikius> maybe any idea why I cannot login in gdm? i try to login and all I get is login prompt again and no error
[17:41] <Neikius> 13.04
[17:43] <joelwallis> dobs2, ill take a look on that. im using 12.04 and this post if from 2006. do you know if there are many changes in bash from there?
[17:43] <dobs2> most likely none when it comes to that
[17:43] <dobs2> but i'm no super expert either
[17:44] <dobs2> also apparently disabling ipv6 on your windows machine is a possible fix for dropping the internet connection from time to time.
[17:46] <joelwallis> wow! it works only when im like root in the server! when im like my user it works. i'll search about that.
[17:46] <joelwallis> thanks dobs2 for that link
[17:46] <dobs2> copy your /home/user to /root/bash.bashrc
[17:46] <joelwallis> its not explicited in that post but I remembered of another post that told something about this
[17:46] <dobs2> your /home/user/bash.bashrc
[17:46] <joelwallis> hmm
[17:47] <joelwallis> ok
[17:47] <Vraaghetmaar> how do i install an tar.gz file?
[17:47] <joelwallis> ill read the file before it.
[17:47] <joelwallis> Vraaghetmaar, you can download the file with wget and extract it with tar
[17:47] <dobs2> well the .bashrc is a config file for your shell, just copy it to the root folder so it will also get that
[17:47] <daftykins> Vraaghetmaar: first you want to be 100% sure that the only way you can get what you're installing is through having downloaded that tar.gz
[17:47] <joelwallis> tar xzf file-name.tar.gz
[17:48] <BafalUngo> hola
[17:48] <joelwallis> dobs2, yeah but if root doesn't contain the user like .bashrc file should be a reason there, so ill read about. hehehe im one of these type of pragmatic users who like to understand each aspect of OS
[17:49] <BafalUngo> sois de españa no?
[17:49] <Guest81762> really dumb question; how do I do the pipe in terminal?
[17:49] <dobs2> on what keyboard?
[17:49] <BafalUngo> im from spain
[17:49] <daftykins> depends what keyboard layout you have
[17:49] <dobs2> language
[17:49] <dobs2> if it's german its alt gr + <
[17:49] <daftykins> mines next to the left shift, using shift: |
[17:49] <daftykins> (UK layout)
[17:50] <BafalUngo> hola?
[17:50] <BafalUngo> hello?
[17:50] <daftykins> !es | BafalUngo
[17:50] <Guest81762> just using english qwerty
[17:50] <dobs2> uk keyboard should also be (alt gr) + the key next to Lshift
[17:50] <daftykins> Guest81762: what i said then, if the keyboard is UK
[17:50] <daftykins> dobs2: lol alt+gr doesn't do it on UK
[17:50] <dobs2> Ralt
[17:50] <daftykins> it's just shift + it
[17:51] <dobs2> alt gr is the right alt
[17:52] <dobs2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ISO_keyboard_%28105%29_QWERTY_UK.svg
[17:52] <ronalds> I have once upgraded to raring
[17:53] <ronalds> can I do it with changing source list
[17:53] <ronalds> just changing precise with raring in file, and it will upgrade all packages to raring
[17:53] <ronalds> right?
[17:54] <auronandace> ronalds: it is not supported to upgrade from precise to raring directly
[17:54] <daftykins> ronalds: no, you can't go direct from 120.04 to 13.04, you tend to have to go via versions between, so 12.10 first
[17:54] <auronandace> !upgrade | ronalds
[17:54] <modern> I have a problem with cpu speed. For whatever reason no matter what I have tried my overclock doesn't show up. I have tried to disable ondemand and all the power states are disabled in bios. I tried to load up a indicators-cpufreq and it crashes.. anyone know how to fix this
[17:54] <betrayd> Neikius wrong user ID or password
[17:54] <daftykins> ronalds: upgrade to quantal, then to raring
[17:54] <ronalds> but I have done upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04 directly once
[17:55] <void> Ubuntu allows upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04
[17:55] <ronalds> supported or not, I didn't loose anything
[17:55] <Guest81762> alt gr does not make the pipe.
[17:55] <Neikius> betrayd: nah but I just figured it out, very stupid of me - wrong home folder permissions ... no errors anywhere t ho :)
[17:55] <dobs2> you nee to press that + the key next to LShift
[17:55] <void> it also upgrades packages wherever possible
[17:55] <daftykins> Guest81762: shift. and. the. key. next. to. it. (the slash one)
[17:55] <dobs2> or LShift + the key next to it (as daftykins said)
[17:56] <dobs2> imonagermankeyboardsry
[17:56] <betrayd> Neikius good, i think logins disabled other cues for security reasons, glas you figures that one out though
[17:56] <betrayd> glad* ^
[17:57] <starbuck33> hi guys, how can i get the xchat icon back into systray in 13.04?
[17:58] <ronalds> don't know, using quassel
[17:58] <ronalds> @starbuck33
[17:59] <th0r> starbuck33: Settings - Preferences - Chatting - Alerts in xchat
[18:01] <Guest81762> no go. am on a dell laptop and tried all keys; shift, fn, alt. nada.
[18:02] <th0r> Guest81762: what is shift-backslash?
[18:02] <Guest81762> ?
[18:02] <starbuck33> th0r: it's activated there but it doesn't show in the systray, just in that little envelope... but the envelope doenst work, every time i want to maximize xchat it starts a new session
[18:02] <Neikius> betrayd: yea ty anyway :)
[18:02] <Guest81762> its the ?
[18:02] <th0r> starbuck33: then they broke it in 13.04, it works in my LTS
[18:02] <Guest81762> fn + / will make +
[18:03] <th0r> Guest81762: backslash, not forward slash
[18:03] <Guest62931> hello
[18:03] <Guest81762> thats it! thanks
[18:03] <Neikius> now just gotta figure out why I get kernel panic on normal boot, but if I break the boot sequence and drop to initramfs, then do zfs import manually it works ok
[18:05] <betrayd> its called slash btw not forward slash
[18:05] <th0r> betrayd: is that another rule of the church of ubuntu?
[18:07] <betrayd> thems just 'guidelines' but 'backslash' is correct
[18:08] <rypervenche> lol, oh god, the Church of Ubuntu...
[18:09] <Parsi> who knows why testdisk shows many partitions? http://inspic.com/C3E57395
[18:09] <betrayd> ...that despises root as a login...
[18:10] <th0r> rypervenche: I find after 30 years playing with linux that ubuntu is attempting to redefine a lot of things....becoming something of a religion with the new kids
[18:11] <rypervenche> th0r: One reason I don't use Ubuntu :P
[18:11] <Parsi> th0r: have you used testdisk?
[18:11] <th0r> rypervenche: I am using xubuntu at the moment, but will not use it in the future
[18:12] <th0r> Parsi: no, and if you ask I am pretty sure you have fried your windows partition with the dd command you issued
[18:12] <Parsi> yes :/
[18:12] <vadimkolchev> hi all. how can I permanently turn off autonegotiation for my nic?
[18:13] <Parsi> vadimkolchev: ask #freenode
[18:13] <theishi> I have laptop and after installing a program and rebooting, my keyboard and mouse stopped functioning. When I switch to another screen ctrl-alt-F1 they work fine, otherwise I need to plug in another keyboard to use my machine
[18:13] <theishi> If I leave the keyboard plugged in when booting, both the onboard keyboard and external one do not function... not sure what needs to be done
[18:14] <th0r> theishi: you have considered the obvious...uninstall the program that broke it?
[18:14] <theishi> th0r: sorry. Did that already
[18:14] <betrayd> theishi was it a game
[18:14] <theishi> betrayd: qt-bitcoin, no not a game
[18:15] <vadimkolchev> hi all. how can I permanently set autonegotiation off for my nic?
[18:16] <th0r> theishi: did  you install from a deb or from a tar.gz?
[18:18] <theishi> th0r: I used apt-get to install. I needed to add a new repo
[18:19] <th0r> theishi: I would expect if it installed new modules they would be removed and the old ones reinstalled by apt-get.
[18:19] <th0r> theishi: but that is something worth maybe pursuing
[18:20] <th0r> theishi: a way to check that. boot into an older kernel...hold the sift key while booting and choose an older kernel...should use the modules for that kernel
[18:20] <theishi> th0r: i uninstalled it and rebooted, so the first idea didn't work. Trying an older kernel is a good idea
[18:21] <theishi> i will be back
[18:21] <theishi> thanks
[18:21] <CarlFK> how do I find what package provides libusb.h ?
[18:21] <Somelauw> Can evince read ebooks with drm?
[18:21] <Somelauw> or poppler?
[18:21] <jrib> CarlFK: if you already have libusb.h, use dpkg -S; otherwise use apt-file, ubottu, or http://packages.ubuntu.com
[18:21] <th0r> Somelauw: I don't believe so
[18:22] <CarlFK> I expected http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libusb-dev but I don't see it in http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libusb-dev/filelist
[18:23] <jrib> !find libusb.h
[18:23] <rts1> the sound of my laptop its not working if i plug something on the headphones I hear noise
[18:23] <CarlFK> jrib: got it.. apt-file search libusb.h  ... libusb-1.0-0-dev: /usr/include/libusb-1.0/libusb.h
[18:23] <CarlFK>  
[18:26] <Parsi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5701122/ what's wrong with sda6?
[18:27] <th0r> Parsi: you did a dd onto that partition, right?
[18:27] <Parsi> yes th0r
[18:27] <theishi> No dice, I rebooted to an older kernel and no luck
[18:27] <Parsi> th0r: screwed up?
[18:27] <th0r> Parsi: then you fried the tables. The data is still there, a recovery expert can probably get most of it, for a price. But I don't think there is any way to repair it
[18:28] <Parsi> really? cannot repair the table?
[18:28] <th0r> Parsi: what table?
[18:28] <goddard> whats the best way to install the AMD/ATI video card drivers?
[18:29] <Parsi> that tables you mentioned
[18:29] <th0r> Parsi: there used to be allocation tables, but not any more. Can't repair what isn't there
[18:29] <daftykins> th0r: it was only a 440 byte DD though, i was 'helping' before, he needs a data recovery app right?
[18:29] <daftykins> th0r: maybe even 'dd' the partition to an external disk
[18:29] <th0r> daftykins: good luck
[18:30] <daftykins> th0r: yeah that's what i thought!
[18:30] <Parsi> no chance then?
[18:31] <Parsi> god damn it :/ i think i have a backup for about a week ago
[18:31] <Parsi> of windows partition
[18:31] <Parsi> before dd it told me 'no bootable device"
[18:31] <goddard> whats the best way to install the AMD/ATI video card drivers?
[18:31] <Parsi> was it fixable?
[18:33] <daftykins> Parsi: multiboot on macs tends to be nasty
[18:33] <subz3r0> does anyone have the same issue with virtualbox 4.2 when installing a new kernel on the system? it complains  that no kernel modul is installed. all the time i have to " sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup" to fix this issue
[18:33] <subz3r0> also it tells me that there is no dkms.conf file. but there are several dkms.conf files on my system...
[18:34] <th0r> subz3r0: old info, but used to need to install build-essential and dkms before installing vbox to ubuntu
[18:34] <goddard> eixt
[18:34] <pierrevr> Hi, how can I see the boot messages instead of the splash screen with the Ubuntu lice-cd ?
[18:34] <subz3r0> th0r: it is already installed
[18:36] <th0r> subz3r0: just caught it...you installed a new kernel. Probably need to run that command to install the module for the new kernel
[18:36] <th0r> subz3r0: unless ubuntu has changed the game, kernel and modules are a set
[18:36] <subz3r0> th0r: yes indeed. thats what i did. but i have this behaviour for the last 3-5 kernels i think. before that i had no problems at all. everything worked out of the box
[18:38] <th0r> subz3r0: do you have to repeatedly run that command, or just once for each new kernel?
[18:39] <subz3r0> th0r: so what i did for testing was: deinstalling vbox, reinstall it. and i got this dkms.conf file error again. it wasnt able to locate the correct dkms.conf file. same issue when i used this command "/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup"
[18:39] <subz3r0> th0r: everytime when a new kernel was installed
[18:42] <subz3r0> th0r: got the last line ive posted?
[18:43] <Magicarp> I built my first PC yesterday with a gigabyte MB. It can boot windows via USB but not ubuntu. I only just realised it's probably because of the UEFI. What do I have to disable in the UEFI to boot Ubuntu?
[18:43] <malimbar> did 13.04 get rid of the irc compatibility in empathy?
[18:44] <vadimkolchev> hi all. how can I permanently set autonegotiation off for my nic?
[18:44] <malimbar> I couldn't figur eit out, had to use xchat
[18:44] <subz3r0> !uefi | Magicarp
[18:45] <Prints> some were mentioning running a live version of ubuntu?  - for the past decade ive been at step one (interest in linux based OSs) and never made it beyond that... wanted : 'process sheet' (step by step instructions page)
[18:45] <bazhang> !manual | Prints
[18:45] <origami1966> Good afternoon, everyone!  Is there anyone that can help me with a misbehaving Hardy system?  On reboot, it has dropped me to a BusyBox prompt, somewhere I've never been before.
[18:46] <CyL> Hi, my wifi hotkey is not working, I'm getting the message "Use 'setkeycodes 63 <keycode>' to make it known." whenever I press it. What is the correct <keycode> to make it work in Ubuntu?
[18:46] <Prints> ty bazhang
[18:46] <Geet> can a dual boot system be hibernated?
[18:46] <subz3r0> Geet: yes
[18:47] <Geet> subz3r0, in win7 there is no option but for hibernate.. before dual boot there used to be one.
[18:47] <julio> hi there, why is my ubuntu 13.04 getting so slow sometimes? I do have a core 2 duo laptop, 2gb ram... it becomes very slow for a moment and then it starts going normally again
[18:47] <malimbar> julio, check the System Monitor
[18:48] <malimbar> depending on wha tyour doing, it might be sucking up your ram or cpu
[18:48] <Geet> what is the function of swap? is it only for hibernation?
[18:48] <subz3r0> !swap | geet
[18:49] <malimbar> ubottu is right
[18:49] <malimbar> :)
[18:49] <Geet> subz3r0, but if i am not going to use much ram heavy programs.. so is it necessary to give that much space?
[18:50] <Geet> I have 6gb ram and keeping 6gb swap is a little touchy for me. i mean it will be used rarely, right?
[18:50] <malimbar> it'll be required rarely, but it's used all the time
[18:50] <subz3r0> Geet: the best thing is to make the swap size equal to your ram size
[18:51] <CyL> Hi, my wifi hotkey is not working, I'm getting the message "Use 'setkeycodes 63 <keycode>' to make it known." whenever I press it. What is the correct <keycode> to make it work in Ubuntu?
[18:51] <Geet> malimbar, used all the time? how come?
[18:51] <edoceo> HALP! I just found out I'm stuck on a Maverick box - how to get updates since all my packges 404 now?
[18:51] <subz3r0> geet: but ofc you can run ubuntu without swap space
[18:51] <edoceo> SHould I just update the sources.list to point to something new?
[18:51] <DJones> !eol | edoceo
[18:51] <pierrevr> Hi, how can I see the boot messages instead of the splash screen with the Ubuntu lice-cd ?
[18:52] <subz3r0> pierrevr: hit escape
[18:52] <CyL> pierrevr: 'sudo dmesg' in a terminal
[18:52] <Geet> subz3r0, ya currently I am using it without swap. At times it does appear slow. But dunno whether it's because of lack of swap.
[18:52] <pierrevr> CyL: the system doesn't boot, which is why I need to see the messages.... ;)
[18:52] <malimbar> Geet, https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space
[18:52] <pierrevr> subz3r0: Great! Thanks mate!
[18:52] <subz3r0> Geet: it depends on your needs. you can do STD(supspend to disk) or STR (Suspend to ram)
[18:54] <Geet> malimbar, I have noticed that my ram usage does not go  beyong 1gb on ubuntu.. that also when using chrome or something.. I have got a total of 6gb.. so will swapping pages still be done?
[18:54] <pierrevr> subz3r0: is it possible to change kernel parameters, etc... with the live cd? Like one can do with grub...
[18:54] <pierrevr> I don't suppose so...
[18:54] <ochivad> hola!
[18:54] <ochivad> alguien habla español?
[18:54] <subz3r0> pierrevr: should be possible, yes
[18:55] <pierrevr> subz3r0: Problem is, after an interrupted xubuntu install, I can't boot anymore, I don't even get to the choices menu... :/
[18:55] <malimbar> Geet, if you clicked the link I think it says. ". Second, a significant number of the pages used by an application during its startup phase may only be used for initialization and then never used again."
[18:55] <subz3r0> pierrevr: if i remember right, use "shift" while booting then edit grub
[18:55] <pierrevr> oh, cool
[18:55] <malimbar> The system can swap out those pages and free the memory for other applications or even for the disk cache.
[18:55] <pierrevr> many thanks!
[18:55] <pierrevr> (not used to ubuntu)
[18:56] <Geet> malimbar, ya i read it. but does not that mean whenever ram is less the system will use swap space. so when systems have 6gb or 8gb space and when the usage does not go beyond 1 or 2gb max.. is it required..
[18:57] <malimbar> it'snot required, but if you have it then it will be used
[18:58] <chvx> my  cursor changes then i am in another window, how do i fix that?
[18:58] <malimbar> Geet, and if you don't make a swap partition, I think ubuntu will create a swap file instead just in case
[18:58] <subz3r0> Geet: even when the RAM is no full - swap space will be used. just check the systemmonitor. you will see then that its used almost all of them time
[18:58] <subz3r0> "not"
[18:59] <malimbar> subz3r0, though curiously mine isn't being used right now. I'm pretty surprised actually.
[18:59] <th0r> subz3r0: sorry...got pulled away. If you are only having to run that command once for each new kernel, while it does seem something is amiss, is it worth troubleshooting?
[18:59] <CyL> Hi, my wifi hotkey is not working, I'm getting the message "Use 'setkeycodes 63 <keycode>' to make it known." whenever I press it. What is the correct <keycode> to make it work in Ubuntu?
[18:59] <subz3r0> Geet: even if there are just some kilobytes in the swap
[19:00] <Geet> subz3r0, so is it ok if i don't follow the rule of thumb and just keep 2gb of swap for 6gb ram?
[19:00] <malimbar> Geet, generally speaking it's recommended to have more swap than ram
[19:00] <subz3r0> th0r: yes i think its worth it. because im not the only guy who has this issue. im pretty sure its about the missing dkms.conf file while doing "/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup" or when installing vbox completely new on the system. I have several dkms.conf files on my system. so im not sure for which one vbox is searching while installation or while doing "/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup"
[19:00] <betrayd> cyl i think running xev will show you what the keycode is for the key pressed
[19:00] <betrayd> cyl i think running xev will show you what the keycode is for the key pressed
[19:01] <Geet> ok.. is it possible to add more swap afterwards?
[19:01] <subz3r0> malimbar: hmm? swap should be = ram
[19:01] <CyL> betrayd: Well, how would xev know that if it's not mapped yet?
[19:01] <subz3r0> swap = ram. use the exact same size is the best idea
[19:01] <th0r> subz3r0: I have several as well, but I am pretty sure the one you need is in /etc/modeprobe.d\
[19:01] <betrayd> cyl then you use another tool
[19:02] <subz3r0> th0r: got some minutes? if so, lets compare our entried in that file? maybe we could fix the issue.
[19:02] <malimbar> subz3r0, last I checked (a few years ago) they recommended twice ram. Then ram became plentiful and cheap, so others said it was silly
[19:02] <subz3r0> entries
[19:03] <CyL> betrayd: I already got the scan code. I'm willing to map a scan code to a key code. I just need to know the corred key code in Ubuntu. I do not need a tool to get the keycode (unless is one that lists all available keycodes)
[19:03] <th0r> subz3r0: that will be easy...mine only has four comment lines <smile>
[19:03] <betrayd> cyl i also used xmodmap to 'set' the RWin and  the Menu keys to 'alias' them  to F13 and F14
[19:03] <CyL> betrayd: I appreciate your help, but I'm that's not what I'm trying to do
[19:04] <subz3r0> th0r: is it okay when i pm you?
[19:04] <th0r> subz3r0: however, the one in less /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.2.12/build/dkms.conf has a lot of info...and is maybe the issue
[19:04] <th0r> subz3r0: yup...go ahead
[19:05] <betrayd> o my bad cyl i missed that last input
[19:05] <scalability-junk> just a small question: I have win 7 encrypted with truecrypt (which overwrote my grub stuff with the truecrypt bootloader I assume), how do I use grub to boot ubuntu or win7 (truecrypt)?
[19:05] <kb8wlu> anyone know if their is a chipset driveres for the asus extreme IV linux
[19:05] <scalability-junk> I could only find old infos, and don't want to cripple both installs.
[19:06] <CyL> betrayd: np
[19:07] <Estragon> hi
[19:08] <Estragon> I just updated an old laptop from 10.04 to 13.04 but after the first reboot, I have no more wireless networking
[19:08] <Estragon> what should I look for first ?
[19:09] <Estragon> there is no wlan0 interface :(
[19:10] <betrayd> Estragon  maybe a new one, ra0 or an extra ethx?
[19:10] <Estragon> ifconfig only outputs eth0 and lo
[19:10] <malimbar> huh, now Rhythmbox says it can't rip my CD 'cus it can't encode ogg voriis
[19:10] <malimbar> uh...
[19:11] <malimbar> any help there would be nice
[19:11] <betrayd> Estragon iwlist or iwconfig?
[19:11] <|Anthony|> Is there a legit PPA for teamspeak 3? Just wondering why it isn't in the repos already
[19:12] <Estragon> betrayd: iwconfig outputs eth0 no wireless extensions.
[19:12] <malimbar> why would rhythmbox not be able to encode a cd to ogg, and then be unable to instlal it?
[19:16] <sharkwoof1996> hey guys is there a way to get gomne 3.8 on ubuntu 12.04?
[19:16] <Snypa> Hello can anyone help me with dual booting
[19:17] <malimbar> Snypa, what do you need help with?
[19:17] <Snypa> I have linux installed and some free raw space
[19:17] <Snypa> I cannot now install windows because it cannot find a system partition
[19:18] <malimbar> ah
[19:18] <malimbar> what have you tried so far?
[19:18] <Snypa> installing windows :D
[19:18] <malimbar> lol
[19:18] <Snypa> i have 3 HDDs
[19:18] <erming> I'm having problem with Samba share.. My Win7 client seems to have difficulties authenticating. Is this a common issue?
[19:19] <Snypa> and swap on one (no free space), /home on another (170gb unallocated space) and a 3rd raid ntfs drive 1tb no unallocated space
[19:19] <OerHeks> sharkwoof1996, not without a PPA like https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 , but carefull, it may break your system and ubuntu nor i support this
[19:19] <robotti> :DD
[19:19] <Snypa> '/' and swap*
[19:19] <betrayd> Snypa usually we install linux after windows, since windows thinks there's no other OS that matters
[19:20] <Snypa> betrayd: Yes but I never intended to install windows but now it seems I must
[19:20] <Estragon> betrayd: solved my issue with this command : sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:20] <Estragon> thanks
[19:20] <malimbar> If you install windows second, you have to re-fix the install with linux again
[19:20] <harris> yolo
[19:20] <malimbar> it's pretty funny actually
[19:20] <Snypa> i understand i will have to rejig GRUB, but windows simply will not install
[19:21] <sharkwoof1996> OerHeks, thanks then i take dont do it?
[19:21] <malimbar> Snypa, I'm not familiar with raid, but it's worth looking at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Installing_Windows_After_Ubuntu
[19:21] <|Anthony|> Is there a legit PPA for teamspeak 3? Just wondering why it isn't in the repos already
[19:21] <betrayd> Estragon, make a note for future refrene (I always keep a rreadme text file) but nice going! =)
[19:21] <Snypa> malimbar: those are solutions to issues after windows is installed
[19:21] <jrib> !sru | |Anthony|
[19:21] <malimbar> Snypa, hmm, you're right
[19:21] <Snypa> i cannot install windows as linux owns the system partition i assume
[19:22] <jrib> |Anthony|: that explains what kind of upgrades stable releases get.  As far as an official ppa, I don't know but I would check the teamspeak site
[19:22] <malimbar> Snypa, that shouldn't matter, as windows would reformat it anyways
[19:23] <Snypa> malimbar: "Setup couldn't create new system partition"
[19:23] <malimbar> bleh
[19:23] <Snypa> message from windows 7 installtion
[19:23] <scalability-junk> malimbar: do you have any idea how to do that with truecrypt?
[19:24] <scalability-junk> I only find grub instrutions not grub2...
[19:24] <malimbar> scalability-junk, I don't use truecrypt, so not really.
[19:24] <malimbar> I thought truecrypt was below the formatting level though, so would it matter?
[19:24] <scalability-junk> damn the truecrypt bootloader overwrote grub I assume for the mbr and now I can't get to grub
[19:24] <malimbar> *shrugs*
[19:24] <Snypa> is there anyway to shrink a ext4 safely?
[19:24] <Snypa> or swap
[19:25] <scalability-junk> malimbar: for full partition encryption it's not below I think
[19:25] <OerHeks> sharkwoof1996, i would upgrade to 13.04, for bleeding edge 3.8
[19:26] <malimbar> Snypa, did you say you have free space, or you have an already formatted partition you want to use?
[19:26] <Snypa> i have free space on a second hard drive
[19:26] <sharkwoof1996> OerHeks, yeah i will get around to doing that but i need to use 12.04 for now
[19:26] <speccy88> Hey!
[19:27] <malimbar> and windows sees the second hard drive at boot, but doesn't like to overwrite it?
[19:27] <Snypa> i create the partition
[19:27] <Snypa> that is fine
[19:27] <Snypa> the issue is the system partitionm
[19:28] <betrayd> maybe because it wants to be C:
[19:28] <Snypa> maybe i should unplug my SSD (used a '/' and swap)
[19:29] <Snypa> let windows think the '/home' disk is the system one?
[19:29] <malimbar> ... oooh, maybe it's a problem with the limit of partitions
[19:29] <uvala> hello, I know this is not a xoops group. but I couldnt find a xoops channel, and this is a general question..I'm installing Xoops on a hosted server. should I download  a full stack package (Apache, PHP, MySQL, XOOPS) or a normal one?
[19:30] <malimbar> Snypa, I'm reading whatever google brings up now. Perhaps you should try making the partitions before installing
[19:31] <malimbar> Snypa, a small primary partition (the picture in the website is 100 mb), and then a larger logical partition for how much you want Windows to have
[19:32] <malimbar> Snypa, my guess though is that Windows wants to create two primary partitions, and a disk cna only have 4 of those
[19:32] <malimbar> and Linux uses 1 for itself, 1 for swap, and who know,s maybe 1 for the /home
[19:32] <malimbar> if you have that on a separate partition
[19:39] <Snypa> i see
[19:39] <storrgie> I'm trying to get ubuntu-server installed on an Intel NUC... but I think that with UEFI it is never going to work out
[19:41] <uvala> usr13, would you maybe have a free moment for me?
[19:49] <harris> i have some cds how can i make copies of them in ubuntu without extra software
[19:50] <harris> i have some cds how can i make copies of them in ubuntu without extra software
[19:53] <ortsvorsteher> !ask ubottu
[19:54] <seronis> !patience | harris
[19:55] <ortsvorsteher> harris, do you have brasero installed? you can use it to copy youre cd's
[19:55] <seronis> he left
[19:55] <ortsvorsteher> okay
[20:06] <blob40001> hey all. i have ubuntu installed on /dev/sdb1, home on /dev/sdb2 and swap on /dev/sdb3. how do i enable swap to be used from sdb3? currently it's partitioned, but not in use
[20:07] <betrayd> blob40001 there is swapon -s for status but man swap <device> ought to switch it on
[20:07] <betrayd> i mean swapon <device>
[20:08] <ortsvorsteher> blob40001, if you have an entry about your swap device in /etc/fstab, a swapon -a will enable swap then after every boot
[20:08] <blob40001> thanks
[20:08] <Chat3918> Hey
[20:11] <tozen> hi all! unf i cannot figure out myself probrem with ntfs directories background color in bash. here is screenshot:http://itmages.ru/image/view/1035021/4836d62e and here is $ dircolors:http://pastebin.com/82z4sJ59 so what and how do i have toexport, please. thx
[20:14] <BluesKaj> tozen: , is the ntfs on the same drive ?
[20:16] <Quix86> What P-M voltage control software type things are available for 13.04? The one I know about is linux-phc but it isn't supported for 12.10 or newer
[20:18] <tozen> BluesKaj: yes but different partition
[20:20] <benzrf> hey, I'm mostly happy with Unity
[20:20] <phillyj> can someone tell me why Disk Utility shows my SATA HDD under a PATA controller instead of SATA controller?
[20:20] <benzrf> one thing: can I prevent super from opening my dash?
[20:20] <BluesKaj> tozen: think the background colour is set in the terminal
[20:20] <bazhang> benzrf, perhaps have a look at unity-tweak-tool
[20:21] <tozen> wilee-nilee: hi! here is question to u as well: < tozen> hi all! unf i cannot figure out myself probrem with ntfs directories background color in bash.  here is screenshot:http://itmages.ru/image/view/1035021/4836d62e and here is $  dircolors:http://pastebin.com/82z4sJ59 so what and how do i have toexport, please. thx
[20:21] <benzrf> ok, thanks!
[20:22] <tozen> BluesKaj: of course! but question is how?
[20:23] <OerHeks> Quix86, there is a version of TLP in this PPA >> https://launchpad.net/~linrunner/+archive/tlp >>>, carefull, a ppa can break your system and is not supported here officially
[20:25] <OerHeks> Quix86, more info > http://askubuntu.com/questions/285434/is-there-a-power-saving-application-similar-to-jupiter
[20:25] <BluesKaj> tozen:  in the terminal itself , in its appearance options
[20:25] <Quix86> ty OerHeks
[20:26] <kimir> How can I make powertop NOT forget its settings? Every time I reboot it changes tunables to "good" even tho some "good" are bad because they break stuff
[20:27] <Quix86> kimir I want to say that powertop just reports the system's settings on the tunables until you start changing things, but I might be wrong
[20:27] <kimir> Then how do I change system settings on those? :P
[20:28] <kimir> Autosuspend on USB breaks my mouse input
[20:28] <Quix86> I don't know
[20:29] <tozen> BluesKaj: thx!!! its works
[20:29] <BluesKaj> tozen:  ok good
[20:29] <harris> hi ActionParsnip
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> hi harris
[20:30] <mahamed91> hi
[20:30] <mahamed91> i'm stuck with LVM partitioning
[20:31] <harris> whats new ActionParsnip
[20:31] <mahamed91> installed 13.04 with full disk for LVM, and now i'm trying to virtualize with xen, can't creat vm with lvcreate because not enougth extends
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> harris: just chillin, thought I'd drop by, see what's going down
[20:32] <harris> ActionParsnip, why arent you on as much
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> harris: im still active on launchpad :-)
[20:33] <harris> oh yea you posted on m y launch pad
[20:33] <Bauer1> Why does Ubuntu's Software Updater started asking me to restart?
[20:34] <Bauer1> I hate restarts in the Microsoft style
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> bauer1: kernel updates usually cause that
[20:34] <harris> 1041
[20:34] <Bauer1> ActionParsnip: hmm ok, will try now, last time I allowed it to do that, I could not boot until I changed to older kernel - I am still running from older kernel
[20:35] <Bauer1> lets hope this time I wont need to switch kernel
[20:35] <gypsyjoker> how do i remove unity?
[20:35] <OerHeks> Bauer1, maybe the new kernel update solves your "could not boot" issue
[20:36] <Bauer1> will report back in few mins, OerHeks  :)
[20:36] <OerHeks> !nounity
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> gypsyjoker: just install the shell you desire, you can even install another desktop
[20:36] <xavier83ar> hi everybody, is there a way to disable app menu on a per application basis on ubuntu 12.10 ??
[20:37] <gypsyjoker> ok, how do i remove it in ubuntu 13, and where do i specify which desktop to use?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> gypsyjoker: you choose it at login
[20:37] <xavier83ar> a few days ago appmenu stop working on libreoffice and make it crash
[20:37] <gypsyjoker> gotcha. thanks
[20:37] <francesco_> ciao a tutti
[20:38] <francesco_> mi servirebbe fast and furios 5
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> gypsyjoker: if you like the 2 panel session, install xfce4 package and use xfce
[20:38] <bazhang> francesco_, no warez here
[20:38] <gypsyjoker> ActionParsnip, nah, i don't like two panels. i prefer a lot smaller wm
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> gypsyjoker: you could install fluxbox etc then choose that at login
[20:39] <gypsyjoker> i'm gonna look after the updates are done. i want a tiling wm
[20:40] <[FreeBSD]> gypsyjoker: i3 is nice and easy
[20:40] <[FreeBSD]> theres loads
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> awesome is fun too
[20:40] <gypsyjoker> i wish i could get spectrewm on here, but i don't think it's in software center
[20:41] <Rarrikins> Are there any tools to defragment drives and compact the files at the beginning of the volume so that I can get a smaller virtual drive image?
[20:41] <[FreeBSD]> Rarrikins: what do you mean by that
[20:42] <Rarrikins> [FreeBSD]: I'm going to be installing Ubuntu on a virtual machine, installing a bunch of stuff, deleting a bunch of stuff. I want the free space to be zeroed out and all the used space to be at the beginning of the drive so that the virtual drive image is smallest.
[20:43] <Rarrikins> [FreeBSD]: ...so that I can distribute the drive image.
[20:43] <[FreeBSD]> Rarrikins: just resize the drive
[20:43] <[FreeBSD]> you dont need to defrag
[20:43] <Rarrikins> Ahh, that's a good idea.
[20:43] <[FreeBSD]> or zero
[20:43] <Rarrikins> Thanks :)
[20:44] <phillyj> how can I make my secondary HDD set so that things download to it by default and not to my boot SSD?
[20:44] <[FreeBSD]> phillyj: in the program options
[20:44] <[FreeBSD]> depends what you download.. you would set things like firefox's downloads to go to that drive in firefox options etc
[20:44] <[FreeBSD]> or do you mean packages>?
[20:45] <phillyj> [FreeBSD]: yes, a deb file
[20:45] <[FreeBSD]> not sure about that, theres probably some option to set in a config
[20:45] <phillyj> any idea what to search on google?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: make a partition and mount it as /var ,you will need to copy stuff over first
[20:47] <[FreeBSD]> hmm if theres no option in a config youd have to symlink or use fstab
[20:47] <[FreeBSD]> to var cache it looks
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: i also suggest you move web cache to tempfs (if /hone is on the SSD)
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> symlink isn't a bad solution
[20:48] <[FreeBSD]> tmpfs wont hurt, web cache on ssd wont hurt either though
[20:48] <phillyj> ActionParsnip: yes, /home is on the ssd; i just bought the HDD this week
[20:48] <phillyj> its ntfs
[20:48] <seronis> anyone know any software for tabletop gaming?  D&D / Pathfinder (PF specific is best)
[20:49] <Treaver> Can everyone with Minecraft join play.skycraft.cc\
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: i suggest you move the web cache storage to the platter based drive, or tempfs
[20:51] <phillyj> ActionParsnip: what is web cache storage?
[20:51] <histo> phillyj: If you're using two drives. I would use ssd as boot and mount your /home to the hdd
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> philyj: ntfs isnt great for storing /var. Id resize the NTFS and make an ext4 partition
[20:51] <[FreeBSD]> tbh i would leave it, ssds arent all old gen and have write aplification etc, i would only keep big stuff like movies and music etc on the storage hdd
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: for your web browser....temp internet files
[20:52] <histo> phillyj: let me show you my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/5701541/  I have an SSD so i've set certain things up to tmpfs etc...
[20:52] <stef1a> why can I not resize an unmounted Windows 7 partition?
[20:52] <[FreeBSD]> but a tmpfs = no harm in it, i just wouldnt be "scared" of using the ssd
[20:52] <phillyj> ActionParsnip: Is it possible to just move the /home into the HDD instead?
[20:52] <histo> stef1a: was it not shutdown cleanly?
[20:53] <phillyj> its getting complicated for me
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> stef1a: win7 can resize its own partitions
[20:53] <tozen> stef1a: how u try?
[20:53] <histo> phillyj: It's not complicated. You just want to reduce writes to the ssd and enable trim support.
[20:53] <[FreeBSD]> phillyj: you can mount anything anywhere with fstab
[20:53] <histo> phillyj: use noatime and discard as mount options for things on the ssd. Mount non essential stuff to tmpfs
[20:53] <[FreeBSD]> you could just mount /home/*/.cache as tmpfs to save setting indvidual programs up
[20:53] <histo> !fstab | phillyj
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: in future installs, set the /var folder to be on the platter based drive (make a drcent sized partition for it)
[20:54] <stef1a> histo: I think it was
[20:54] <stef1a> ActionParsnip: I would like to do it from gparted
[20:54] <stef1a> tozen: gparted
[20:55] <histo> stef1a: Some times that could be the issue are you receiving any errors?
[20:55] <stef1a> histo: hold on; let me show you some pictures of gparted
[20:56] <stef1a> http://i.imgur.com/yaDAXOT.png <-- sda2 is Win7, and I want to cut it down and add some space to the unallocated space
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> stef1a: i'd chkdsk the partition so you know it is healthy (requires windows)
[20:57] <histo> stef1a: you'd have to shrink it and move sda5 over then add to the unallocated
[20:57] <stef1a> http://i.imgur.com/fFASOVZ.png <-- that's the info for sda2
[20:57] <histo> stef1a: click ont he red exclamation
[20:57] <stef1a> histo: I can't shrink it
[20:58] <histo> stef1a: do you have windows on this box?
[20:58] <shobakey_> hi kazi
[20:58] <stef1a> histo: yeah. win7 is sda2, which is on here.
[20:58] <histo> stef1a: I would boot to windows and check the disk
[20:58] <stef1a> histo: I've used it recently and it seems fine, though I haven't checked the disk... why would I need to?
[20:59] <phillyj> [FreeBSD]: what do you mean I can mount anywhere? Don't I have to move the /home to the HDD?
[20:59] <histo> stef1a: It has errors right now. you could fix it from linux but it's not recomended
[20:59] <histo> stef1a: http://www.w7forums.com/use-chkdsk-check-disk-t448.html
[20:59] <histo> phillyj: do you currently have files in /home?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> stef1a: makes sure the storage is ok
[21:00] <histo> stef1a: this is part of the reason ntfs sucks
[21:01] <phillyj> histo: yes; i had been using the ssd for 1 year; just got hdd this week
[21:01] <stef1a> hm. well, if I were to install another distro in the unallocated space NOW, would that make it more difficult to resize the sda2 later?
[21:01] <histo> phillyj: ahh... well rsync your home to the hdd then just setup your fstab to mount it as /home
[21:03] <histo> phillyj: it's up to you it's your system. You can setup in anyway you want. What is it you are trying to do? I missed your initial question.
[21:03] <shobakey_> hi kazi
[21:04] <kaziweb> Hi shobakey
[21:04] <phillyj> histo: i want to use my hdd to install the STEAM clinet and games
[21:04] <shobakey_> ok am here
[21:05] <phillyj> histo: i think symlinks will help
[21:05] <syntroPi> is it possible to set the defaults for a pulse audio device like in alsamixer? it seems it overwrites always what i specified in alsamixer on changing the pulse audio device
[21:05] <histo> phillyj: I would copy your /home there then. That way all your big files like steam won't be taking up your ssd
[21:06] <histo> !separatehome | phillyj
[21:06] <phillyj> histo: hmm, that sounds like the easy way
[21:06] <histo> phillyj: also this way if you reinstall your OS or switch your /home is on another drive
[21:06] <phillyj> histo: this will keep my ssd as boot for the OS, right?
[21:07] <histo> phillyj: yes
[21:07] <histo> phillyj: the only thing that will move is /home
[21:07] <histo> phillyj: it will be transparent to you if you follow those directions
[21:08] <histo> phillyj: use ext4 as the partition type on your new drive
[21:08] <phillyj> histo: its ntfs now; is that a problem?
[21:10] <histo> phillyj: yes... Don't use ntfs
[21:11] <histo> phillyj: if you need an ntfs partition on the drive still for whatever reason, I would shirnk it and add a second ext4 partition to use with linux as your /home
[21:11] <phillyj> histo: cool; you answered my next question
[21:12] <histo> phillyj: umount the ntfs partition and use gparted to shrink and create the ext4 partition
[21:27] <phillyj> umm, i think i did something without thinking; i accidently saved the mount point of the hdd as /home; did I mess up my /home dir?
[21:28] <phillyj> right after reformating; i wanted to set the mount pt as /media/HDD1
[21:28] <phillyj> wasnt thinking clearly
[21:29] <Pricey> phillyj: Just unmount it and everything will still be there.
[21:29] <phillyj> ok
[21:34] <Bauer1> ok.. new kernel works :)
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> bauer1: cools
[21:35] <Bauer1> Anyone knows how to install GTK3.x themes on 13.04 Unity?
[21:35] <bekks> Bauer1: Unity isnt GTK3, so you cant use their themes.
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> bekks: is it not?.....
[21:36] <bekks> ActionParsnip: As far as I know, its not hat simple to just use another gtk3 theme.
[21:36] <Bauer1> bekks: I actuallr read in forum that unity is compliant to gtk 3.x themes
[21:36] <bekks> If it is indeed, I'm curious about it, too :)
[21:36] <Bauer1> bekks: in that case, where can I find dark Unity  themes?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> bauer1: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/themes-collection-for-ubuntu-1110-unity.html
[21:37] <Bauer1> bekks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1971094&p=11897801#post11897801 I dont know how to insall the themes which have css files
[21:39] <trism> Bauer1: you just extract the themes to ~/.themes/
[21:39] <trism> Bauer1: so you have ~/.themes/Themename/gtk-3.0/
[21:39] <IamTrying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5701686/  - Is Skype not working in Ubuntu anymore?
[21:40] <Bauer1> ahhh, thanks trism !! no post or readme mentioned that
[21:42] <IamTrying> HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLO?
[21:42] <IamTrying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5701686/  - Is Skype not working in Ubuntu anymore?
[21:42] <OerHeks> Skype is working fine here.
[21:42] <trism> IamTrying: sudo apt-get -f install;
[21:43] <tozen> IamTrying: here is answer in report u swowed:   Package libssl1.0.0:i386 is not installed.
[21:43] <tozen> *showed
[21:44] <IamTrying> tozen, but i am running 64-bit Ubuntu
[21:44] <IamTrying> tozen, i386 still i have to install?
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> iamtrying: never had an issue with skype
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> iamtrying: your OS is multiarch, just like windows is
[21:45] <IamTrying> ActionParsnip, i had Skyp working yesterday, but today skype was not in my system Ubuntu 12.10 64-bit
[21:45] <andre> hi all
[21:46] <IamTrying> like without my decision it has been removed or gone... and now reinstalling it as new ActionParsnip
[21:46] <Bauer1> trism: ok, I've put a few themes into .themes like you said, but they still dont show up in the Appearance window
[21:46] <protech> sadasd
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> iamtrying: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:46] <IamTrying> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[21:46] <trism> Bauer1: they will never show up there, the themes in Appearances are hard coded, you need to use one of the tweak tools to change them
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> iamtrying: did you run: sudo apt-get -f install
[21:47] <IamTrying> ActionParsnip, yes after installing  libssl1.0.0:i386 , dpkg -i skype..deb is installed
[21:48] <Bauer1> then that window needs to be redesigned, because it is misleading
[21:48] <mic_> hey @all
[21:49] <IamTrying> ActionParsnip, How can i check how come the skype was uninstalled and when?
[21:51] <OerHeks> IamTrying, did you use aptitude yesterday by any chance?
[21:51] <phillyj> histo: so i followed the move /home guide; it looks like my ssd is empty now? not sure what's going on
[21:52] <tati> oola
[21:52] <salah> Is there any ways to boost the WiFi signals? I have a Samsung 9 series with Intel Advanced N something that has poor signals almost everywhere I try
[21:53] <bekks> salah: Use a more powerful sender antenna.
[21:53] <phillyj> salah: if you have, ddwrt installed on the router, i think you can boost signal strength
[21:53] <seronis> ^
[21:53] <seronis> ddwrt is what i use
[21:53] <phillyj> ohh, i think he has a laptop
[21:53] <phillyj> built in wifi module
[21:54] <seronis> oh doing adhoc ?
[21:55] <Fujnky> hello guys, is there any way to open a new byobu window with a command? i want to be able to run a single script and therewith open multiple windows where some processes are running.
[21:56] <damn> hello
[21:56] <Guest56012> hello
[21:57] <Guest56012> hi
[21:57] <protech> Login
[21:57] <Guest56012> can anyone see what im typing
[21:57] <sinfuzi0n> No, Guest
[21:57] <sinfuzi0n> =P
[21:58] <Guest56012> lol
[21:58] <Guest56012> thanx
[21:58] <sinfuzi0n> No problem
[21:58] <seronis> Fujnky: byobu ?
[21:58] <IamTrying> OerHeks, yea everyday i use
[21:58] <genoskill> Sometimes i have real bad sound that goes away if I turn it off and turn it on. how can i get rid of that annoying distorted sound
[21:58] <arnsa> Hey guys
[21:58] <arnsa> is it possible to remove that top bar on unity on the 2nd monitor?
[21:58] <arnsa> I'm using dual monitors
[21:58] <OerHeks> IamTrying, that may be the source of your issue, see !aptitude
[21:58] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[21:58] <Fujnky> seronis: yes
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> iamtrying: you can search /var/log/dpkg.log
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> iamtrying: why do you think it was removed from the default install....
[22:00] <IamTrying> Thank you, found it it was dependency issue and it was removed ActionParsnip
[22:00] <IamTrying> Thank you. Clear now.
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> iamtrying: stick to apt-get and you will have fewer issues, specially with multiarch which you are now using
[22:01] <IamTrying> OK - ActionParsnip
[22:01] <arnsa> is it possible to remove that top bar on unity on the 2nd monitor?
[22:03] <ais523> I'm having problems trying to fix a system with a small disk (and relatively low disk space); I'm getting out of disk space errors from apt-get install -f even though there's 510MB free
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> arnsa: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37691/how-do-i-remove-top-panel-on-dual-screen-on-secondary-monitor
[22:04] <arnsa> ActionParsnip, 2 years passed, and it's still not supported? I just love ubuntu <3
[22:04] <ais523> given that there's no sign that it's actually using all the disk space, any idea what could cause an out of disk space error when there's still a few hundred MB left?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> ais523: remove unneeded kernels, can help. Also run: sudo apt-get clean
[22:04] <MJBrune> does your timezone matter in regards to where you pull packages via the repo? I.e. is your repo server geobalanced by the timezone you choose?
[22:04] <arnsa> So I can't even watch a fcking movie on ubuntu if I have dual-monitors because I'm seeing that fcking top bar on my player
[22:04] <arnsa> great!
[22:04] <arnsa> ubuntu is so awesome
[22:05] <MJBrune> arnsa: don't like it, don't use it. Feel free to use windows, mac or a different distro.
[22:05] <MJBrune> What ever works for you.
[22:05] <ais523> ActionParsnip: I've tried cleaning, that's helped; I'm removing the unneeded kernels by hand at the moment because apt-get doesn't seem to know about them
[22:05] <jrib> arnsa: there's really no need for the sarcasm.  If you have an issue, other users like you will try and help you.  But just ask your question/state your problem and wait patiently please
[22:05] <arnsa> MJBrune, since when windows or mac is a distribution? They have the only version of their OS, why would it be a distro?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> arnda: you dont have to use unity....
[22:06] <Bauer1> trism: do you know how to apply the themes to Chrome as well
[22:06] <OerHeks> arnsa, yes ypou can
[22:06] <OerHeks> c/can >> http://askubuntu.com/a/238010
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> arnada: install the xfce4 package, log off and log into the xfce session.....no more issue
[22:07] <ais523> aha, removing the headers for old kernel versions manually seems to have freed up just enough space, so my guess is it needs another 400MB or so working space on top of what it claims to need
[22:07] <trism> Bauer1: Settings/Use Gtk+ Theme should do it
[22:07] <trism> Bauer1: in chrome
[22:07] <MJBrune> arnsa: I never said they were distrobutions, you seem to have read my statement wrong. You said you don't like ubuntu. You can use another operating system entirely or just a different linux distro. Either way if you don't like ubuntu don't use it.
[22:07] <trism> Bauer1: never works quite right for me though so I use the classic theme
[22:07] <[FreeBSD]> ais523: maybe ubuntu isnt optimal for tight disk space
[22:07] <Bauer1> trism: yup, it looks terrible and confusing
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> arnsa: try xfce, wrong target above. install xfce4 package log off and log into the xfce session.
[22:08] <MJBrune> frenchtoast: usually it isn't imo.
[22:08] <MJBrune> [FreeBSD]: ^
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> arnsa: in short, you cant bad mouth the whole distro just for one shell, ignorant much
[22:09] <OerHeks> arnsa, this link looks promising too > http://askubuntu.com/questions/107583/how-can-i-remove-duplicate-second-unity-launcher-on-a-dual-screen-setup
[22:09] <ais523> [FreeBSD]: yeah, it's normally been OK though, this isn't a main computer we're talking about, it's a repurposed one
[22:10] <[FreeBSD]> ais523: youll probably find a whole load of stuff you can remove that you dont need
[22:10] <arnsa> OerHeks, I'm talking about top bar god damnit
[22:10] <ais523> [FreeBSD]: we've already removed as much of that as we can
[22:11] <[FreeBSD]> what is the overall disk size>
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> ais523: install bleachbit and use it to clean temp stuff. close as many apps as possible. watch your settings as it can remove settings you want
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> arnsa: did you try another session?
[22:11] <MJBrune> does anyone know if your timezone matters when installing the distro?
[22:12] <bekks> MJBrune: No, it doesnt.
[22:12] <[FreeBSD]> MJBrune: you can change it of course any time
[22:12] <ais523> [FreeBSD]: 3.3G
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> mjbrune: daylight savings and sets the keyboard and languages in one move
[22:12] <ais523> also, now I have a different problem: it seems to have linux-generic-pae at 3.2.0.37.45, and linux-image-generic-pae at 3.2.0.44.53
[22:12] <ais523> and obviously the two need matching versions
[22:12] <arnsa> So... has anyone ever turned off that top bar on unity on dual monitors?..
[22:12] <tozen> [FreeBSD]: the best way to how to aviod a lot of rubishes is to install your system from miniiso ;)
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> ais523: also you can uninstall apps you dont use
[22:13] <[FreeBSD]> tozen: yeah
[22:13] <tozen> [FreeBSD]: simple
[22:13] <MJBrune> so your timezone doesn't direct what repo server you download from then?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> tozen: mini iso + fluxbox :-)
[22:14] <tozen> ActionParsnip: bingo"
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> mjbrune: not sure in that sense. you could spin up a virtual system and test
[22:14] <[FreeBSD]> ActionParsnip: i bet theres still some bloat left lol
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> [freebsd]: not with the no recommends option :-)
[22:15] <bekks> MJBrune: Yeah, thats correct.
[22:15] <g0tcha> heya guys, can anyone recommend a way to run weekly backups of an ubuntu server running LAMP?
[22:16] <[FreeBSD]> ActionParsnip: what does it leave you with? a shell and no services?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> [freebsd]: do you mean the mini iso?
[22:16] <[FreeBSD]> yeah
[22:17] <MJBrune> bekks: what does then?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> [freebsd]: kernel + drivers + bootloader + package system + basic commands
[22:17] <[FreeBSD]> ah ok
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> !backup | g0tcha
[22:18] <fajran> Hi guys, I am trying to count the number of packages and their sizes over all ubuntu releases. I see something strange with Intrepid Ibex - http://fajran.github.io/vis-ubuntu-pkg/
[22:18] <fajran> did I do the counting wrong? I took the Packages.bz2 files from the repos and count the package/size inside
[22:19] <trism> fajran: actually it looks fine, it seems you stuck hoary in the middle there
[22:19] <g0tcha> ActionParsnip, thanks
[22:19] <g0tcha> ActionParsnip, those methods are possible on a machine thats already running?
[22:20] <fajran> ah yes. that's hoary (doh) my fault
[22:20] <fajran> thanks
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha: sure, just make a selection of data to backup (/etc as well as your data) and use one of those methods to backup
[22:25] <OerHeks> !hcl > OerHeks
[22:26] <addiks> hi, for debugging purposes i am trying to build synaptics from source. However it refuses to build because it tells me that "libxtst-dev" is missing, but it is in fact installed. How do i solve that?
[22:27] <zilla> is there a way to change the theme color
[22:27] <zilla> without the advanced tweak tool
[22:27] <OerHeks> !find libxtst
[22:27] <trism> addiks: can you pastebin the output?
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> zilla: noobslab has a ppa with themes
[22:27] <zilla> ActionParsnip:
[22:27] <addiks> trism: of couse, but it will be in german if thats good to you
[22:28] <zilla> i just want to use the droper tool to change from brown highlighting to blue
[22:28] <trism> addiks: that's fine
[22:28] <zilla> is that possible anymore
[22:28] <zilla> thanks in advance
[22:29] <addiks> trism: http://pastebin.com/MXWQbyZa
[22:29] <fajran> now it looks ok - http://fajran.github.io/vis-ubuntu-pkg/
[22:29] <fajran> thanks!
[22:33] <trism> addiks: hmm, when I try it, it says "build conflicts: libxtst-dev", try removing libxtst-dev?
[22:34] <zilla> alright
[22:34] <zilla> then
[22:35] <addiks> trism: looks good, thanks :)
[22:36] <Djyou> Hey, I lost access to my main computer it's right here next to me but I can't remember my password is there anyway to get back in without a reinstall?
[22:36] <Guest40666> In Ubuntu 13.04 Unity as well as Gnome version, my mouse pointer jumps up and down off and on making it very difficult to use the OS. Any suggestions? This problem has nothing to do with mouse or sensitivity settings as it is an involuntary movement of the mouse pointer
[22:37] <Guest40666> I am using a Sony VAIO Laptop with a touch pad and an IBM Stick
[22:42] <Guest40666> i guess there is no solution :)
[22:42] <Guest40666> thabnks anyways
[22:42] <Guest40666> thanks anyways
[22:45] <Frostbyte> some assistance with apache2 required, is this the correct channel?
[22:45] <bazhang> #httpd Frostbyte
[22:45] <Frostbyte> thanks
[22:47] <Djyou>  Hey, I lost access to my main computer it's right here next to me but I can't remember my password is there anyway to get back in without a reinstall? I can't even just copy my files because it's the only machine in the house that uses IDE drives.
[22:48] <rmobenchain> hello everyone.  is there a way to use the ubuntu 12.10 LIVE CD to fix hard drive errors?
[22:48] <Neikius> just google password recovery... there are multiple ways, single user mode, boot from cd/usb etc
[22:48] <Neikius> rmobenchain for hdd errors I'd recommend testdisk
[22:48] <Neikius> its not linux but its quite ok
[22:48] <Djyou> Thanks, my google isn't up to par so I had trouble finding it.
[22:48] <Neikius> duno how is it for other fs than ntfs tho
[22:49] <Neikius> good luck
[22:49] <Neikius> and good night
[22:49] <rmobenchain> well crap.
[22:49] <zykotick9> Neikius: ;) actually testdisk IS a gnu/linux program, just not for checking HD errors (it's for partition recovery)
[22:50] <rmobenchain> only reason I was asking is I keep getting an input/output error  read on /dev/sda message when trying to install
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> djyou: search for: psychocats password
[22:52] <rmobenchain> is testdisk something I run from the terminal or...?
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> rmobenchain: not good. id test the drive using the ultimate boot cd
[22:52] <AnonAMouse> My new gigabyte motherboard only lists my external hard drive as a bootable device when I had a beta of windows 8 on it. With raring 64 or 32bit it never lists it
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> rmobenchain: i had the same issue, had to replace the drive
[22:52] <txdv> yeah rmobenchain
[22:53] <rmobenchain> ActionParsnip: is the ultimate bood CD the LIVE CD?  sorry to ask, but I am a newb :/
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> anonamouse: id ask in ##hardware
[22:53] <baniir> did something change in 12.04? my readahead values set by blockdev do not persist through reboot, and i thought they did before
[22:53] <Frostbyte> nobody is responding over at httpd channel, can I get sme help? : /
[22:54] <txdv> rmobenchain: define ultimate ... you can use the net to download every package which is not on the cd
[22:54] <cyberNRH> Dose anyone know of a program that will allow me to make a time-laspe video out of photos?
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> rmobenchain: its a different livecd. its OS independant so being new to ubuntu isnt a factor here in any way
[22:54] <txdv> rmobenchain: the ultimate livecd is a livecd installed on a usb :D
[22:55] <rmobenchain> txdv: how do I access it?  I'm confused by all this, and frustrated I've had to use internet via the LIVE CD for the past 4 days
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> cybernrh: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/make-movie-out-of-photos-in-ubuntu.html
[22:56] <cyberNRH> Thank you
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> txdv: same difference. it still gives the same functionality no matter the media
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> cybernrh: couldnt find that yourself?
[22:56] <txdv> the difference I pointed out is the medium
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> cybernrh: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ubuntu+make+video+from+images&oq=ububtu+make+vid&aqs=chrome.1.57j0l3&client=chrome-mobile&sourceid=chrome-mobile&espv=1&ie=UTF-8
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> cybernrh: too hard?
[22:58] <rantic> I'm doing an Ubuntu minimal install, would the acpi and cpufreq packages be recommended for all systems?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> rantic: you may find they are deps of packages you will install
[22:59] <exce> !channels
[22:59] <OltreIrc`27760> hello!
[23:01] <OltreIrc`27760> I'm new on mIRC! Can somebody help me
[23:01] <OltreIrc`27760> ?
[23:01] <larlazinha> just ask
[23:01] <andre> hi all
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> oltrelc`27760: why use mirc?
[23:02] <andre> im testing ubuntu (unity) firstime a long time ago - and i like it .. but have some special questions:
[23:02] <andre> how disable preview in filemanager?
[23:03] <andre> how activate single click in filemanager?
[23:03] <rantic> I'm really annoyed i can't move the bar on the left somewhere else by default ...
[23:03] <rantic> Unity is basically Windows 7 with the task bar on the left side of your screen and a HUD
[23:04] <rmobenchain> uggh crap.  booted myself
[23:04] <andre> how disable showing "more places" under "applications" - i wanna only see what i installed
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> rantic: its hard coded
[23:04] <andre> rantic - yes ! - and its great !
[23:04] <kostkon> andre, go into nautilus preferences for those, it should be edit → preferences. for single click the option might be in the mouse prefs, check there also
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> rantic: there is a ppa with the bar on the bottom. its known to cause issues
[23:04] <OltreIrc`27760> ActionParship: because i read it was one of the best programs for IRC network...
[23:05] <andre> total easy - all what i need to google the web and hear music whil that :)
[23:05] <diverdude> whats the best screencapture tool for ubuntu?
[23:05] <rantic> ActionParsnip: Oh I don't run unity, I'm sure for most people it's fine but I'm far too picky.
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> oltrelc`27760: why not try a few clients, see which you like rather than have people tell you what to think
[23:05] <andre> kostkon, thx - i searched "edit" in iconbars, but i founded now
[23:06] <rmobenchain> i forgot to write down the terminal command for checking/fixing hard drive errors.  can someone please repost what it is again?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> oltrelc`27760: irssi is more flexible and will integrate beter with your OS. it also uses python for scripts. depends what your requirement of your client
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: there is no single best
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> rmobenchain: fsck
[23:08] <andre> i love the font settings in ubuntu too, much better and cleaner reading like debian/opensuse (outofbox)
[23:08] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, i tried installing istanbul but its not working
[23:08] <kostkon> diverdude, check kazam and vokoscreen. both very user friendly
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: tried kazam
[23:08] <rmobenchain> actionparsnip: do I leave in the USB which has my LIVE CD on it in the usb port?
[23:08] <kostkon> diverdude, istanbul it's too old.
[23:09] <kostkon> is*
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: omgubuntu reports a few times on them
[23:09] <OltreIrc`27760> I'll tell you the truth: i'm not very practice with specific terms... ^^"
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> oltrelrc`27760: i suggest you use a native irc client, it will run cleaner and integrate beter into your OS
[23:10] <OltreIrc`27760> ok, thank you! :)
[23:11] <andre> ok last question - how disable showing "other offers" under "applications" - i wanna only see my local installed stuff - no advertising or spam
[23:11] <lomo7> why i can't boot from any usb after installin ubuntu?
[23:13] <evouga> hello
[23:13] <histo> lomo7: that has nothing to do with installation. Check your bios settings for boot order
[23:13] <OltreIrc`27760> ActionParship: uhm sorry, another question: may i be in a wrong chan?.. is this a chan dadicated only to ubuntu? because i read the name of the channel just now and i have a windows... i don't know, have i made a little mistake? :P
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> andre: uninstall the shopping lens
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> !shopping
[23:14] <evouga> I am trying ot install Ubuntu on my laptop but am running into problems
[23:14] <histo> evouga: what sort of problems?
[23:14] <rmobenchain> After performing a "fsck" command, do I remove the USB containing my LIVE CD?
[23:14] <w30> ls -la
[23:14] <evouga> I made a bootable USB stick per the instructions
[23:14] <evouga> and it boots
[23:14] <rmobenchain> ... when my computer reboots?
[23:15] <evouga> but then if I try to pick either install, or run off the USB without installuing
[23:15] <evouga> I get this error:
[23:15] <andre> i already did - i see it is showing "sources" from "software-center" - how disable that for future?
[23:15] <evouga> Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> oltrelrc`27760: this is only ubuntu support. try in ##windowd
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> ##windows sorry
[23:15] <andre> ActionParsnip:  i already did - i see it is showing "sources" from "software-center" - how disable that for future?
[23:15] <Rarrikins> How do I choose UTC in the timezone selector in the installer?
[23:15] <histo> evouga: how did you make the usb?
[23:15] <OltreIrc`27760> Ok! Thank you very much! Byee!
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> evouga: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded
[23:16] <histo> !md5sum | evouga
[23:16] <evouga> @histo I used a Windows 8 program
[23:16] <evouga> let me check
[23:18] <w30> cd /etc
[23:18] <histo> Rarrikins: you just select it during install. It will ask you if system time is set to UTC or not.
[23:18] <evouga> histo, I used Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.3.4
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> evouga: did you manually download the ISO?
[23:19] <histo> evouga: perform an md5sum check of the iso and the thumbdrive using the directions from ubotu
[23:19] <evouga> ok
[23:19] <Rarrikins> histo: It's asking me for my location, but UTC isn't listed, just actual places.
[23:19] <rmobenchain> actionparsnip: just entered in the "fsck" command into the terminal, got a 'fsck from util-linux 2.20.1' message back.  To my understanding, I need to now reboot my computer correct?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> !fsck | rmobenchain
[23:20] <histo> Rarrikins: well then click on greenwich
[23:21] <histo> rmobenchain: what are you tryinng to do?
[23:21] <rmobenchain> histo:  I believe my hard drive has bad sectors on it preventing an install of 12.10.  Am wanting to find and correct any errors if possible
[23:22] <iorch>  I'm trying to execute a script when a new multipath device is created, which event I use in inotify for that ?
[23:22] <rmobenchain> histo: I keep receiving an 'Input/Output error read on /dev/sda when trying to install
[23:22] <histo> rmobenchain: Why do you think it has bad sectors?
[23:22] <histo> rmobenchain: ahh
[23:23] <histo> rmobenchain: not good... Try using smartmontools  to take a look at the drives logs.
[23:23] <rmobenchain> histo: is smartmontools something I enter into on the terminal?
[23:23] <rmobenchain> I'm a neb and trying to figure all of this out
[23:23] <rmobenchain> newb even
[23:24] <histo> !smart | rmobenchain
[23:24] <histo> rmobenchain: although it's most likely your drive is dying.
[23:24] <evouga> where do I get the saucy md5s?
[23:24] <recurrent> help i have only xchat qt 4 and chromium installed, there are 2 grey ? on launchbar with no option to remove?
[23:24] <phillyj> ack help! something went wrong and I can't get into desktop; I just get a black screen with cmd line only!
[23:25] <rmobenchain> histo: that is what some friends are saying to me.  when a buddy gave me the computer, he said a computer friend said the hard drive was getting ready to go bad on it, so it would seem he was correct
[23:25] <phillyj> just changed the nvidia driver back from a beta version
[23:25] <kostkon> evouga, for the daily? here? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/MD5SUMS
[23:26] <baniir> how can i set readahead values on devices before mdadm assembles
[23:26] <phillyj> how do I get my desktop back?
[23:26] <evouga> I don't think it's the daily? It's called saucy-desktop-amd64.iso but I can't find it on the official list of md5s
[23:26] <recurrent> the grey ? on toolbar have a tooltip that says 'Debconf on blahblah-Virtualbox'
[23:27] <evouga> should I try installing an older stabler version?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: tried: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[23:28] <rmobenchain> ok everyone.  thanks for the help.  am now on the hunt for a new SATA drive
[23:29] <phillyj> ActionParsnip: i get an error
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: is it that xorg.conf doesnt existñ
[23:30] <phillyj> ActionParsnip: data incomplete; device section "default device" must have a driver line
[23:30] <histo> !saucy | evouga
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: then edit the file and add the line:  Driver "nvidia"
[23:31] <phillyj> ActionParsnip: then it says it backed up file and a new x config file is written to xorg.conf
[23:31] <evouga> let me try installing 12.04
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: it will go in the section defining the video card
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> phiklyj: oh then you are ok
[23:31] <phillyj> ActionParsnip: reboot?
[23:32] <jman074> i have an external hard drive i just plugged in. it shows up in lsusb in terminal. but i doesn't appear to be mounting. how do i access this or reformat it
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: sure
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> jman074: when you last unplugged it did you use the safe removal feature in your OS?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> jman074: or did you just unplug it
[23:33] <jman074> it wasn't mine it was a buddies and im pretty sure he didn't
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> jman074: thats why then
[23:33] <jman074> can i fix this
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> jman074: is the partition ntfs?
[23:34] <jman074> i think so
[23:34] <jman074> Bus 002 Device 008: ID 0bc2:a013 Seagate RSS LLC
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> jman074: plug it into a windows pc and let it detect, then use the safe remove feature to remove it properly. you'll probably find it then works
[23:35] <histo> jman074: pastebin the output of lsblk and sudo blkid
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> jman074: then please educate your buddy
[23:35] <jman074> roger that. give me a sec for the pastbin
[23:35] <histo> jman074: also any relevant dmesg info would be good.
[23:36] <ALexroyar567> Hello?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> alexroyar567: hi
[23:37] <phillyj> ActionParsnip: after reboot, still the same thing; where should I add the like Driver "nvidia"?
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: in the section which names your video chip
[23:38] <harris> boom shakalaka
[23:38] <phillyj> ActionParsnip: oh, it looks like its already in there; now what?
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: read through /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:40] <jman074> histo nothings happening on the sudo blkid
[23:41] <phillyj> ack, did actionparsnip leave?
[23:42] <phillyj> oh, stupid nvidia kernel module failed to initialize?!
[23:42] <jman074> i got the other one
[23:42] <jman074> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5701922/
[23:42] <evouga> 12.04 seems to work! installing now. Is there somewhere I should report the problem with the saucy install?
[23:45] <phillyj> am I still logged in? anyone see my writing?
[23:47] <jrib> phillyj: you're still here, yes
[23:48] <phillyj> good, thx
[23:48] <histo> jman074: sudo parted -l /dev/sdb    Paste that
[23:49] <phillyj> should I just reinstall the nvidia driver and all wll be fixed?
[23:50] <histo> jman074: Looks like your drive may be failing. I would check smart on it.
[23:50] <histo> !smart | jman074
[23:51] <phillyj> jman074: you can check SMART thru Disk Utility in Settings
[23:51] <shadykhan> how can i enable ctrl+enter in firefox so it adds .com?
[23:52] <phillyj> shadykhan: isn;t it default?
[23:53] <Djyou> Are there any decent terminal run text adventure in the repository?
[23:53] <shadykhan> it doesnt work default for me
[23:53] <shadykhan> im on 13.04 if that makes a difference
[23:55] <phillyj> shadykhan: have you googled "firefox ctrl enter not working"
[23:57] <recurrent> how do i remove ? from unity launcher, left or right click has no options?