[00:03] <xubuntu130> its any way to open multible tabs conversations but from different accounts
[00:03] <xubuntu130> on pidgin?
[00:03] <xubuntu130> i have a skype and a msn account
[00:03] <xubuntu130> and i want to see both friend lists of these account and talk them
[00:05] <brainwash> xubuntu130: try asking in #pidgin
[00:05] <xubuntu130> okie thanks :)
[00:05] <th0r> xubuntu130: pidgin doesn't support voice
[00:06] <xubuntu130> what you mean? no video calls?
[00:06] <xubuntu130> i am talking only about text\
[00:06] <th0r> xubuntu130: ah...you said 'talk'
[00:07] <xubuntu130> yeah i mean text chatting :P by the way it sucks that no voip services in pidgnin...i think linux looses a bit on chatting or? :P
[00:07] <th0r> xubuntu130: well, those are topics for #pidgin
[00:08] <brainwash> but microsoft offers an offical linux skype client
[00:09] <xubuntu130> brainwash i know but i think isnt so good designed as it should be...and also why micorosoft to have to make a such important service for linux?
[00:11] <brainwash> there are alternative voip services and programs, but most people simply use skype i guess
[00:13] <xubuntu130> maybe i dont have searched much about this ;) by the way just testing now the youtube-dl the terminal program for download youtube videos
[00:13] <xubuntu130> i can tell that i enjoy it alot more than even youtube downloader intereface program of windows 7 :P
[00:19] <brainwash> enough offtopic talk :P
[00:25] <xubuntu130> hehe why not :P sometimes offtopic talk when there is no talk at all  isnt bad:P
[00:27] <brainwash> many people don't agree with that, this channel is only meant for support queries
[00:28] <brainwash> so you better ask some xubuntu related questions :P
[00:30] <xubuntu130> oh ok i am sorry hehe :) dont worry i ll find sure alot xubuntu related questions but for now i am going for some sleep :) gn fellows!
[00:31] <toast> trying to install serviio in the process of making "serviio.conf" i get a Permission Denied when trying to save to etc/init...why?
[00:31] <th0r> toast: did you use sudo?
[00:32] <toast> i used gedit to write the script and then save as
[00:33] <th0r> toast: the user doesn't have permission to write into /etc/anything, you need to start gedit with sudo (root priviledges) or sudo nano in the terminal.
[00:33] <genii-around> Save it for now in your home folder then just do : sudo cp filename /etc/init-wherever
[00:33] <genii-around> th0r: sudo for gui is not recommended
[00:34] <xubuntu130> gksudo is the right
[00:34] <xubuntu130> :)
[00:34] <th0r> genii-around: yeah....I know....momentary slip
[00:34] <th0r> actually....I was testing you guys
[00:35] <xubuntu130> :P
[00:35] <xubuntu130> will i take a candy? :D
[00:35] <toast> done thanks
[00:36] <xubuntu130> by the way its true that medit is better compatible for xfce than gedit?
[00:36] <th0r> xubuntu130: I use mousepad for the gui, and nano for editing in the terminal
[00:37] <xubuntu130> interesting...never heard of them...in terminal i just know the vi
[00:37] <xubuntu130> oups i have the nano and i dint knew it lol
[00:38] <th0r> xubuntu130: mousepad used to be the official xfce editor...just a basic text editor. Nano isn't as cryptic as vi. For serious programming I still prefer nedit. A little rough around the edges by today's standards...but plenty capable
[00:39] <xubuntu130> yeah leafpad i think is excellent too for default editor :) nedit?interesting i ll check it too
[00:39] <brainwash> used to be?
[00:39] <brainwash> mousepad is back in 13.04
[00:39] <th0r> brainwash: I think it has been replaced, hasn't it?
[00:40] <th0r> brainwash: it was never removed, but I don't think it is the default any more.
[00:40] <xubuntu130> The program 'mousepad' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install mousepad
[00:40] <xubuntu130> :P
[00:40] <brainwash> it's in Raring
[00:41] <brainwash> they changed the default editor
[00:41] <brainwash> for what ever reason
[00:42] <brainwash> xubuntu130: are there any problems while running gedit?
[00:45] <genii-around> xubuntu130, th0r, et al: Actually gksu is no longer installed by default now, the current recommendation is to use: sudo -i gedit /wherever        type of syntax now
[00:46] <th0r> genii-around: I heard something about that recently. Don't worry much about it since any root editing I need to do is done in the terminal with nano <smile>
[00:47] <brainwash> what about pkexec?
[00:47] <toast> trying to start serviio following this http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=howto:linux:install:ubuntu and this is where im stuck at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5698779/
[00:48] <genii-around> brainwash: http://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default-in-13-04  suggests it also, but I'm not sure of the usage
[00:49] <th0r> toast: sudo service serviio start/stop/restart  (or ...start serviio....?)
[00:50] <brainwash> lucky me, focusing more and more on terminal applications
[00:51] <th0r> toast: yup...man says sudo service serviio start/stop/restart
[00:52] <toast> still says the same thing
[00:53] <th0r> toast: check sudo service serviio status and see if the script is even there
[00:54] <toast> nope same gonna start over
[00:55] <th0r> jeez....need some patience
[01:32]  * ObrienDave is away: Snoozin
[01:34]  * ObrienDave is back (gone 00:01:31)
[01:46] <Unit193> ObrienDave: Please don't use away scripts like that, thanks.
[01:47] <ObrienDave> yea, yea, been told, been fixed. thanks
[02:13] <xubuntu760> wanderfull
[05:01] <deckard> hello. Is XFCE that comes with XUbuntu the same as XFCE from site?
[05:02] <ObrienDave> yup
[05:02] <holstein> deckard: xubuntu uses xfce.. the same "one" that you can get from the site, and customizes it
[05:03] <holstein> !xubuntu
[05:03] <deckard> ty holstein
[05:04] <deckard> under appearance, and icons is that just for desktop icons?
[05:05] <ObrienDave> and menu icons, i think
[05:06] <deckard> which do yuo think goes best with ALbatross/
[05:06] <deckard> same for font and size
[05:06] <holstein> deckard: try it live. you can poke around and customize
[05:06] <holstein> !best
[05:07] <ObrienDave> i like the standard xfce set
[05:07] <deckard> holstein, do you use another font?
[05:07] <ObrienDave> not much into 'eye candy'
[05:07] <deckard> what are event sounds? the dog bark?
[05:08] <deckard> and "enable input feedback sounds"
[05:08] <ObrienDave> yup, another waste of computing power
[05:08] <deckard> ok
[05:08] <holstein> deckard: i would say, if you are new to xubuntu, try the defaults for a while.. mess around with the settings on a liveCD
[05:09] <deckard> ok
[05:09] <ObrienDave> or, install it yo a VM like VirtualBox
[05:09] <deckard> I use xfce so that my game can get as much priority as it can from stock os
[05:09] <ObrienDave> *to a
[05:09] <deckard> someone showed me some clock test where xfce gives you like 15% better
[05:10] <deckard> maybe higher
[05:10] <deckard> does that sound accurate ?
[05:10] <ObrienDave> yup, less overhead. LXDE is supposed to be lighter than XFCE
[05:10] <deckard> what is the command to get that?
[05:11] <ObrienDave> it's called Lubuntu
[05:11] <deckard> oh yes i have it
[05:11] <deckard> i will try my game
[05:11] <deckard> ty
[05:11] <ObrienDave> yw
[05:11] <deckard> be well all
[05:14] <blech_> i logged out and i see "gnome/open box lxgames lubuntu and lubutnu nexus 7 session. which is best for the game?
[05:14] <holstein> !best | deckard
[05:14] <deckard> sure i mean which is lxde?
[05:14] <holstein> deckard: the desktop environment wont make your machine any faster
[05:15] <holstein> deckard: lxde is  light.. the "l" stands for light
[05:15] <holstein> !lxde
[05:15] <deckard> so lxde is the lubuntu option on boot?
[05:15] <deckard> i dont see just lxde
[05:15] <holstein> deckard: lubuntu is using LXDE.. as xubuntu is using XFCE
[05:15] <holstein> !lubuntu
[05:16] <ObrienDave> yes
[05:16] <holstein> deckard: what would i do? try them.. try the live if you want.. see what works for you
[05:16] <deckard> !lxgames
[05:16] <deckard> !lx games
[05:16] <holstein> deckard: i do not know what lx games is
[05:16] <deckard> holy crap, is holstein a bot?
[05:17] <deckard> sob xD
[05:17] <holstein> deckard: ?
[05:17] <ObrienDave> could be......
[05:17] <holstein> deckard: im am saying, i do not know what lxgames is.. its not a known desktop environment
[05:17] <deckard> when i go to login in, i se lx games as one, ill look on forums
[05:17] <holstein> deckard: right. so, you have added that somehow.. maybe with a PPA
[05:17] <deckard> it show up with Xubuntu
[05:17] <holstein> maybe by trying to find a lightweight gaming desktop..
[05:18] <deckard> yes
[05:18] <deckard> i am
[05:18] <holstein> deckard: lubuntu doesnt "show up" with xubuntu
[05:18] <holstein> deckard: so you have changed things from the default
[05:18] <ObrienDave> dang holstein, you almost had him convinced you were a bot ;)
[05:19] <deckard> holstein, marys mother has 4 daughters. their names are martha, jessie and jill. What is the 4th daughters name?
[05:19] <holstein> !ot | deckard
[05:20] <deckard> ty
[06:28]  * ObrienDave is away: Snoozin
[07:23] <xubuntu432> hello! just installed xubuntu and the mic doesn t work with skype. did someone happen to have the same pb?
[07:24] <ObrienDave> make sure the mike is not muted
[07:24] <ObrienDave> *mic, sorry, tired
[07:26] <xubuntu432> can i see that in pavucontrol? wha is the name of the tab?
[07:27] <ObrienDave> open a terminal, run alsamixer
[07:28] <ObrienDave> F4 for capture volumes
[07:28] <ObrienDave> sorry, F3 will show you mic volume (gain)
[07:30] <xubuntu432> when i click F4 i have a column dedicated to mic
[07:30] <xubuntu432> it s written capture R L
[07:30] <xubuntu432> L R actually
[07:30] <Sysi> make sure you have the right input device selected and set to be used with skype
[07:31] <xubuntu432> how do i know?
[07:31] <Sysi> look at pavucontrol
[07:32] <xubuntu432> there is no input device available...
[07:33] <xubuntu432> how can i solve that?
[09:14] <lqid> Cisco AnyConnect Secure Mobility Client - Any Xubuntu alternative for this? Would love to get a VPN connection to work going.
[09:15] <bekks> lqid: openvpn client. But it may not qwork because of your VPN administrator forcing to use that distinct software only.
[09:18] <lqid> bekks: Thanks very much. Greatly appreciate the help.
[11:08] <nantou> help to create a shortuct to a program that works under wine
[11:08] <nantou> please
[11:48] <veebull> halp!
[11:49] <veebull> for some unknown reason, my xubuntu has been getting more and more flaky over the last couple days
[11:49] <veebull> keeps logging me out when I click on seemingly random things
[11:49] <veebull> opening a PDF (sometimes)... open a program from the applications menu(sometimes)... etc.
[11:50] <nightyyx> anyone knows if it is possible to make the thumbells of icons (images) to be a bit bigger?like windows 7
[11:50] <veebull> opening the startup and windows sessions section of the preferences - every time => logs me out
[12:06] <livingdaylight> Hi, I have a usb camera, which when I plug in lights up, but neither cheese or skype give me a picture
[12:08] <livingdaylight> Cheese says its usb2.0 PC Camera/dev/video1
[12:08] <nightyyx> you checked the skype options in video settings?
[12:08] <nightyyx> to see if its selected in skype settings this usb camera?
[12:09] <livingdaylight> skype recognizes it as usb 2.0PC Camera (/dev/video1) as well
[12:09] <livingdaylight> http://clip2net.com/s/57tCwI
[12:10] <nightyyx> hmm
[12:10] <nightyyx> i cant say much as i am new too the linux too :(
[12:10] <livingdaylight> ok :)
[12:13] <nightyyx> hmm i guess your usb camera should be mounter for to get recognized from skype?
[12:13] <nightyyx> i would say to go to File Manager
[12:13] <nightyyx> and check on the devices
[12:13] <nightyyx> if its mounted
[12:15] <livingdaylight> how annoying. I'd have to go to a terminal and mount it?
[12:15] <livingdaylight> how do I see whether its mounted or not?
[12:15] <nightyyx> hm
[12:16] <nightyyx> go to File manaer
[12:16] <nightyyx> where it have your home folders
[12:16] <nightyyx> and hard disks of your computer
[12:16] <nightyyx> and see if its on the list the name of usb camera!
[12:16] <livingdaylight> which list?
[12:17] <nightyyx> applications menu ---> File Manager
[12:17] <nightyyx> on the list on the left
[12:17] <livingdaylight> http://clip2net.com/s/57tJAH I would say not
[12:17] <nightyyx> you should see your home folder desktop and hard disks
[12:17] <livingdaylight> you mean like when I put a cd or external hd, and it shows in the left column?
[12:18] <nightyyx> yes
[12:18] <livingdaylight> yea, don't see it
[12:19] <nightyyx> :)ok
[12:19] <nightyyx> then thats why you have problem
[12:19] <nightyyx> i dont know if it have to do with drivers about this specific usb camera or you have to mount it
[12:19] <livingdaylight> ok, thx
[12:19] <nightyyx> try to unplag it and plug it to another usb port
[15:09] <ktwo> hi i there a gui for samba which integrates nicely in thunar/xubuntu?
[15:09] <ktwo> basically i want to quickly share folders occassionally without messing with text editors
[15:09] <TheSheep> ktwo: sure, you should see 'network' in the sidebar
[15:09] <TheSheep> 'browse network'
[15:10] <Sysi> I think that's only for client
[15:10] <ktwo> eh yea but i need to share a folder of my linux filesystem
[15:10] <ktwo> to access it from windows
[15:10] <TheSheep> there was  a gui dialog for that...
[15:10] <TheSheep> 'shared folders' or something
[15:10] <ktwo> i remember thunar shares or something
[15:11] <ktwo> but it isnt in the repo :o
[15:11] <Sysi> you could keep the windows share up and then upload files after connecting to it, or use WinSCP to get the files
[15:11] <TheSheep> it wasn't part of thunar, but it was in the system settings
[15:11] <ktwo> nah i need native access in file explorer
[15:11] <ktwo> cause i need to work on this files directly with some other program
[15:11] <TheSheep> well, you can always make a custom action
[15:11] <TheSheep> for mounting it
[15:12] <Sysi> the inverse solution worked for me, made a folder writable in windows and connect client to it and then upload
[15:12] <ktwo> i think i found the plugin in ppa
[15:13] <ktwo> though i dont see an install button strange.. its  thunar-shares-plugin
[15:34] <xubuntu285> quit
[16:08] <MrToine58> bonsoir
[16:33] <apm1> xubuntu 13.04 just acted weird
[16:34] <apm1> i was running xchat and i did a /quit
[16:34] <apm1> i saw a info window pop up before i could quit xchat "xchat couldn't get permission to write logs "
[16:35] <apm1> thus i had to check my home folder
[16:35] <apm1> turns out the thunar icons had little locks on them in /home/user
[16:35] <kRush> !enter
[16:36] <apm1> that sounds like a classic case of borked authentication ?
[16:38] <apm1> oh and after not being able to do anything abt it ,i tried log out from the gui , but x didn't restart , it hung on a blank screen with nothing but a blinking cursor
[16:38] <apm1> so i switched to tty2 and logged in from there and did sudo shutdown -P now
[16:40] <apm1> it immediately went down , and when i booted it again , there was the plymouth xubuntu screen with "system performing routine fs checks " and then "/ fs has errors "
[16:41] <apm1> i rebooted and did an fsck on my / partition , from a live cd
[16:41] <apm1> turned out fine there
[16:41] <apm1> now , wtf happened here exactly ?
[16:47] <apm1> meh i hope this turns out to be a phantom bug
[16:47] <apm1> but fs permissions locking in
[16:48] <apm1> why do i have a feeling of deja-vu ?
[16:52]  * apm1 gets sick of waiting 
[16:52] <apm1> blargh !
[16:53] <apm1> meh i am just gonna disregard this and wait for it to reproduce itself
[16:53] <apm1> let it resurface then we'll talk
[17:40] <xubuntu550> Hello
[17:41] <xubuntu550> I have a probleme, my xubuntu doesn't wan't connect to internet HELP ME PLZ
[17:41] <th0r> xubuntu550: don't yell. is the wifi router plugged in?
[17:41] <holstein> xubuntu550: no problem... xubuntu doesnt actually connect directly to the internet.. you need hardware.. do you have networking hardware? if so, do you know what it is?
[17:53] <memand> Hey guys, I'm going to do a fde install of xubuntu 12.04 on a USB flash drive, I'm wondering how a system like that would hold up against bruteforce atacks on the passphrase?
[17:55] <holstein> memand: its really the "best" way to do it... everything is compromisable though, in theory.. just depends on the time and resources of the attacker, i supppose
[17:57] <memand> holstein: but is there any built in delay on receiving passphrases?
[17:58] <holstein> memand: im not an encryption expert.. i'll answer as clearly as i can.. how would a system like that hold up? likely as good as anything else would. is it "crackable"? sure
[17:59] <memand> holstein: Ok, thanks :)
[17:59] <holstein> memand: what would i do? set it up and try and compromise it.. use security algorithyms that are in place already.. use appropriate technology.. consider paying an expert if this is mission critical
[18:00] <holstein> one could also just setup truecrypt, and make things as complicated as you want for a smaller store of data.. thats usually the way i go, since i dont need or want the overhead on my entire system
[18:01] <holstein> really depends on your exact needs.. but i think anyone who says "you are completely and totally safe" should be ignored
[18:02] <memand> holstein: Indeed :) I might actually do both, since I'm going to use it for my offline Bitcoin vault I see no reasson not to go to extreme measures :)
[18:02] <Sysi> I believe it comes down to your password
[18:03] <memand> ^
[18:03] <holstein> sure, the password can help, but *any* password is compromisable, assuming enough time and/or resources of the compromiser
[18:04] <holstein> you would choose a passcode that is resonably hard enough to crack given current technology
[18:04] <Sysi> I mean it's the main thing in order to slow down attacker, because password length exponentially adds possible combinations
[18:04] <holstein> if i find your USB stick and want to hire out an amazon farm to crack on it, how long will it take is that realistic?
[18:05] <memand> The key is to find out how fast it is feassible that an attacker could "type" in passwords and then how make password that is loong enough to make it uneconomical for an attacker to crack it and still short enough so that you don't need 30 mins to type it in you self
[18:06] <holstein> well, if the question is, what size or quality passcode is big or good enough. on some level, that is a matter of opinion.. and totally up to your needs
[18:06] <holstein> also, depends on where and how you are storing it.. you might be able to add 2 factor authentication
[18:09] <chaitime> hello friends
[18:10] <memand> I think I'm just going to go with a 12-15 char phrase and have more than one coppy of the wallet, so that I can empty it before it would get compromised
[18:11] <chaitime> The games that come with Xubuntu, is that based off a default gnome-like package or Xubuntu team chooses them?
[18:14] <Bishey> hi guys, is anybody here able to explain to me
[18:14] <Bishey> why my xubuntu on my laptop seems to use utf8 but when i ssh on my mainmachine it seems like i not using utf8
[18:15] <Bishey> bc chars like äüö are broken
[18:15] <Bishey> never seen that behavior on any other distribution
[18:15] <Bishey> only seems to occur with ssh
[18:16] <holstein> Bishey: you ssh to a server? the server could have different settings.. have you tried a different terminal emulator? what terminal do you usually use? i would just install it and see.. also, test from TTY
[18:16] <Bishey> well im sshing to that machine all the time. im using terminal
[18:16] <Bishey> im gonna test from tty
[18:17] <Bishey> tty same behavior, it adds "s" after every ü for example
[18:18] <holstein> Bishey: i would try as a different user.. i would try from a live CD if i thought it were something to do with the keybaord hardare
[18:18] <holstein> hardware*
[18:18] <Bishey> but it works outside of ssh
[18:19] <Bishey> nyeh
[18:19] <holstein> Bishey: ok.. so you are not testing as a different user.. i'll throw out some more suggestions.. how about ssh to localhost?
[18:19] <Bishey> okay, gonna try that
[18:20] <Bishey> sshing localhost works
[18:21] <holstein> Bishey: you can try ssh to another host.. but, as i suggested first, the issue seems server side
[18:21] <Bishey> yeah guess you're right
[18:21] <Bishey> i tried my root server and im not having the problem
[18:22] <Bishey> but the machine im sshing doesn't do that
[18:22] <Bishey> i mean, i ssh that thing all the time, and im not having the problem
[18:23] <holstein> Bishey: the firts step is to admit you have a problem.. seems like the user on the server is the issue..
[18:23] <Sysi> Bishey: on the problem machine, what does "locale" say?
[18:23] <Sysi> Bishey: are you using screen?
[18:23] <Bishey> oh, it says nothing
[18:23] <Bishey> in fact
[18:23] <Bishey> POSIX
[18:24] <Bishey> it's a gentoo machine, and it's usually set to DE_de.UTF8
[18:24] <Bishey> but it seems that is not right, when sshing to it
[18:25] <holstein> Bishey: well, at least you know the issue is not with the client
[18:26] <Bishey> well, yeh, but i never having that problem elsewhere
[18:28] <holstein> Bishey: you dont have that problem from the same client in with another user, correct?
[18:28] <holstein> Bishey: you can try the other emulators.. or answer Sysi  about screen..
[18:29] <Bishey> öhh, can try root
[18:29] <holstein> Bishey: or, make another user and test..
[18:29] <Bishey> yep, problem still there
[18:30] <Bishey> locale seem to not get set by my main machine when sshing to it
[18:30] <holstein> Bishey: you said it wasnt there as root? correct?
[18:30] <Bishey> yeü
[18:31] <Sysi> try setting locale in .bashrc/similar
[18:35] <Bishey> oh, locale seem to be set nowhere on my main machine
[18:35] <Bishey> seems like gdm are setting 'em
[18:35] <Bishey> is*
[18:35] <Bishey> that explains alot, but why do other machine ssh without any problems
[18:39] <Sysi> maybe they have send_env set in conf or not actually using utf8
[18:39] <holstein> Bishey: what would i do? try another terminal emulator..
[18:40] <Bishey> but i only like terminal
[18:40] <holstein> Bishey: ok
[18:40] <holstein> Bishey: but, even as a troubleshooting step, it can be helpful.. and helpful for the volunteers that are helping you to gather data
[18:43] <Bishey> i think i will just let the locale set on the host somewhere
[19:24] <nantou> how do I download a video from a random site? (not youtube)
[19:26] <holstein> nantou: i would ask the content creator for a copy
[19:35] <Sysi> maybe some browser plugin
[19:37] <TheSheep> or you just right-click and select 'save as' if they didn't disable it
[19:38] <TheSheep> and if they are using html5 video
[19:38] <nightyyx> :PO
[19:38] <nightyyx> :O
[19:38] <nightyyx> wow
[19:38] <nightyyx> html 5 will kill all the cool browser plug ins and programms about downloading videos from sites
[19:38] <nightyyx> :P
[19:39] <TheSheep> not if they include the drm spec that w3c is working on now
[19:40] <TheSheep> but that's offtopic
[19:42] <nightyyx> yeah
[20:21] <memand> Hey, I'm following this http://57un.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/full-disk-encryption-using-ubuntu-in-most-secure-mode-with-aes-xts-plain64/ guide to making an encrypted install but I have overwritten the disk I want to install to with 'dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdX' and gparted is telling me to choose a partitioning table for the disk, which one should I choose?
[20:25] <memand> And why, if not too much trouble to explain
[20:25] <memand> , = ?
[20:26] <Unit193> !filesystems | ext4 is default
[20:28] <memand> I have the choice between MS-DOS, aix, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, pc98, sun and loop
[20:28] <memand> It says MS-DOS is the default
[20:29] <memand> Unit193, ^
[20:30] <Unit193> YOu have overwritten the disk, you need to format it.
[20:30] <memand> yes
[20:31] <memand> But I must admit that I don't know much about the advantages/disadvantages of the different formats
[20:33] <memand> I have tried google'ing linux partion tables,  but it did not turn up anything useful
[20:40] <peyam> hi
[20:41] <peyam> When I have video convesation on skype I can hear sound from youtube or vlc
[20:41] <peyam> what can the problem be?
[20:44] <xubuntu052> installing skype? -- I moved over from ubuntu and having been trying to install skype. It's not in the repositories and the download from the skype website doesn't work either... I'm using a live DVD 64-bit xubuntu.
[20:44] <Unit193> It's in the partner repo,
[20:44] <Unit193> !partner
[20:45] <peyam> xubuntu052: worked for me! doenload the .dep file för ubuntu 12.04 and run the .dep file in software center. just dubble click on it
[20:46] <Unit193> Erm, better to install from repos, automatic updates and packaged for Ubuntu.
[20:46] <peyam> there is one in software center as well
[20:47] <xubuntu052> I added the canonical respositories and updated. apt-cache search skype shows it's there but it can't be installed for some reason.
[20:47] <peyam> you can. it is already in your dash
[20:47] <peyam> just type skype
[20:47] <peyam> it is there even if the "install"button doesnt turn to "remove"
[20:48] <elfy> dash?
[20:48] <xubuntu052> i'm using xubuntu.
[20:48] <peyam> unity launcher..
[20:48] <peyam> yeah
[20:48] <peyam> go to Internet
[20:48] <knome> peyam, this is the xubuntu support channel.
[20:48] <elfy> peyam: dash and unity is not xubuntu
[20:48] <peyam> I mean application lounter > internet
[20:48] <xubuntu052> isn't dash unity?
[20:48] <Unit193> There is no Unity in Xubuntu.
[20:48] <knome> peyam, and please check your attitude.
[20:48] <knome> peyam, please consider this as the last warning
[20:49] <peyam> knome: it is the second time you say that.. I dont know what im writing that makes you believe I have  abd atitude
[20:49] <peyam> xubuntu052: go to application menu > internet. Skype is there
[20:49] <seronis> is there any software in the repos that would help with tabletop gaming?  D&D or Pathfinder? (pf specific is best)
[20:50] <xubuntu052> anyway back to the issue, is this a live dvd issue? do xubuntu users have any issues installing skype 4.2 -- if not, I'll just take it as gospel and deal with it after a full install.
[20:50] <peyam> I just installed skype! I donno what the problem is!
[20:50] <knome> xubuntu052, there shouldn't be any problems. if you have them once you've installed the system, just come back here and ask for help
[20:50] <elfy> xubuntu052: I installed skype fin less than 5 days ago
[20:51] <xubuntu052> skype 4.2 elfy / knome? or the one in the canonical repository?
[20:51] <Unit193> xubuntu052: Canonical repo *has* 4.2
[20:51] <xubuntu052> not sure if the repository has 4.2 but I am assuming it's <4.2
[20:51] <knome> xubuntu052, i can only speak for what is in the repositories
[20:51] <knome> !info skype
[20:52] <xubuntu052> ah, ok unit193.
[20:52] <knome> hmm.
[20:52] <xubuntu052> what ubottu?
[20:52] <Unit193> !info skype-bin partner
[20:52] <knome> Unit193, yeah... just figured out.
[20:52] <Unit193> knome: I win! :D
[20:52] <peyam> knome: why do you think I have  abad attitude?
[20:53] <knome> peyam, if you want to discuss it further, please take it to #ubuntu-ops. thanks
[20:53] <xubuntu052> sorry can someone translate that -- skype-bin 4.2 is in the repository then and I can just install in xubuntu yes? it must be a live DVD issue then.
[20:53] <peyam> knome: next time you can pm me! :)
[20:54] <xubuntu052> I'm using xubuntu 13.04 64bit
[20:54] <Unit193> xubuntu052: Yes, it's in an additional repo you have to enable, but it is there nonetheless.
[20:55] <xubuntu052> it's not the canonical repo?
[20:55] <Unit193> It is, that's the additional repo, as seen in Software Sources.
[20:57] <xubuntu052> OK - I added the canonical repo using the live dvd already. I get an i386 dependency error on install. I guess it's a live dvd issue. OK thanks everyone.
[20:59] <peyam> xubuntu052: still hanging on skype?
[20:59] <knome> xubuntu052, if you want to debug it, you can !pastebin the error, but if you're installing anyway, it might be better to do that first
[21:00] <peyam> knome: what is the default font in xubuntu?
[21:00] <xubuntu052> If people have been able to install skype 4.2 on xubuntu 13.04 64bit without issue, it must be a live dvd problem so I'll do that knome. Thanks for your help.
[21:01] <knome> xubuntu052, we have. no problem, enjoy :)
[21:04] <seronis> I noticed that the partners repos are deactivated in sources by default.  Is there any way i can see whats in them to decide if i want to activate them or not ?
[21:05] <xubuntu803> hey there, quick question if i may?
[21:06] <Unit193> You can visit them and read the Release file, seronis.
[21:06] <knome> !ask | xubuntu803
[21:06] <seronis> Unit193: except i dont know -what- needs visiting. There is no url listed in the 'other software' tab
[21:06] <seronis> it just says "Canonical Partners" without saying what that means
[21:07] <seronis> id like to get a package list
[21:07] <xubuntu803> okay, thanks.  just done a fresh install (hard-drive died) of 13.04 and can't remember how I enabled video thumbnails within Thunar.
[21:07] <Unit193> seronis: It's not exactly normal, but it works to gunzip this and read it http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/partner/binary-i386/Packages.gz the more interesting ones are skype and adobe flash.
[21:08] <nightyyx> since i red somewhere the word thumbnails
[21:08] <seronis> Odd..  i already have flash with the 'restricted-extras' package
[21:08] <nightyyx> can i make the pictures thumbnails larger?like windows 7?
[21:08] <nightyyx> :P
[21:08] <seronis> that was in 'Independant' i thought
[21:09] <seronis> nightyyx: i cant help with that, but if you need the slideshow feature of win7 i can help
[21:10] <Unit193> nightyyx: Yeah, check in view, or Ctrl+scroll
[21:10] <Unit193> seronis: Yep, flashplugin-installer is in main, adobe-flashplugin is in partner.
[21:11] <seronis> Unit193:  thank you (for link and flash info)
[21:11] <seronis> i had actually already found out how to make my own Packages.gz for using a local folder as a repo.  didnt know how to figure out the urls for offsite ones yet
[21:12] <nightyyx> Unit193 yeah but ctrl and scroll make folders also thumbnails...i mean i would like normal size for folder and bigger thumbnails inside the folders
[21:13] <conoral11> Hi there, I'm having an issue with network sharing. I am sharing my WiFi connection from my netbook, to my desktop via ethernet. Both are running 13.04. I am using the network manager to share the connection. And it works, for about 5-10 seconds, then the desktop machine no longer loads web pages. No notification of lost networking either. Any clues where I should be looking?
[21:14] <Unit193> seronis: Sure, and you can use apt-cache for that, many useful commands there.  You use mini-dinstall for local?
[21:14] <Unit193> conoral11: Can check logs in /var/log/, and `dmesg`
[21:15] <seronis> apt-cache hadnt learned that one yet either.  thank you will check out man page on it
[21:17] <xubuntu052> Just a big thank you to any xubuntu contributors out there - I've been demoing various distros and have gone through mint-xfce, mint-cinnamon 15, ubuntu 13.04, aptosid, debian live, debian wheezy, fedora 18 xfce and I keep coming back to xubuntu which I will install. Thank you!
[21:18] <knome> xubuntu052, thanks and enjoy :)
[21:21] <seronis> knome: i know i brought this up once before,  but do you accept any patches for xfce or thunar or do you only use the versions as released by xfce directly?  im almost getting comfortable enougn to start messing with thunars missing features (ctrl-tab between tabs, exe bit in properties) and i've heard mention the xfce team itself is VERY picky about their design choices, even when others consider those
[21:21] <seronis>  choices wrong
[21:22] <knome> seronis, if you have a patch that won't be accepted to xfce but which is considered a good one for xubuntu collectively by the team, we can consider patches.
[21:22] <knome> seronis, but i still can't promise anything
[21:22] <nightyyx> nautilous or thunar? witch is best? :P
[21:22] <knome> !best | nightyyx
[21:22] <seronis> nightyyx:  this is a biased channel to ask that
[21:23] <knome> nightyyx, and what seronis said ^
[21:23] <nightyyx> :P well it have to do a bit with xubuntu since its about thunar comparision too :P
[21:24] <knome> not really
[21:24] <seronis> nightyyx:  well in the past 6 years i've installed linux probably 20 times and never kept it more than a few days or a week
[21:24] <knome> nightyyx, do you have a support question?
[21:24] <seronis> this is my first time using xfce (xubuntu) and i havent felt a single urge to put win7 back on after over 3 weeks
[21:25] <nightyyx> seronis true :) even as a window user for years i feel so ok with xubuntu no the need to go back to windows 7 :P
[21:25] <nightyyx> knome well
[21:25] <nightyyx> i would like to make some more customization to thumbnails
[21:25] <knome> if you want to discuss migration from windows more, please take it to #xubuntu-offtopic
[21:25] <knome> nightyyx, you mean more emblems?
[21:25] <nightyyx> ok :)
[21:26] <nightyyx> sorry for my bad english first of all! well i want to have the option to make the pictures thumbnails bigger
[21:26] <nightyyx> but without affect the folders! i mean i want to keep the folders size in normal size and make larger the thumbnails pictures inside these folders :P
[21:26] <seronis> knome: the  ctrl + mousewheel method that Unit mentioned works for the entire Thunar session.. not for specific folders
[21:26] <nightyyx> yes :)
[21:27] <knome> seronis, you can change the listing type for the directories with images; see the view-menu, or press ctrl+123
[21:27] <knome> err, sorry, nightyyx ^
[21:27] <seronis> both
[21:27] <knome> hmm.
[21:27] <knome> yeah, you're correct
[21:27] <knome> iirc, it used to be different before
[21:28] <seronis> but thats not the issue.  mode '1' for icons is what I also prefer
[21:28] <seronis> but id like image folders to have larger icons
[21:28] <seronis> that doesnt seem possible
[21:28] <nightyyx> yeah
[21:28] <nightyyx> the only thing that i missed from windows...
[21:28] <nightyyx> i want to give a more multimedia look to my xbuntu that already is amazing with cairo dock too :)
[21:29] <knome> there are applications for photo browsing though, maybe that's something you might want to look at
[21:29] <seronis> 'feh' is great
[21:29] <seronis> its what I scripted to use for the slideshow option
[21:29] <nightyyx> i checked a few still cant decide...i think the default image viewer is good for browsing photos but i wanted to make it without a app
[21:30] <nightyyx> feh?is your script?
[21:30] <Unit193> !info feh
[21:30] <seronis> well i installed 'feh' which is an image browser that supports full screen, window mode and even 'set to wallpaper'.  i like customizability
[21:30] <seronis> and inside Thunar  'custom actions' i set a right click option to    feh -FZYzr -D5 %d
[21:31] <seronis> named it  "view as slideshow"  and now when i right click on an image i get the same feature as in Win7
[21:31] <nightyyx> interesting...i am downloading also feh
[21:31] <conoral11> Unit193: Nothing obvious in dmesg, and I can't find anything nasty in the logs. What is happening is the network ondesktop machine side seems to hang, giving a ping command doesn't return anything
[21:32] <nightyyx> i will make also the same customization...lets see :) but it would be great as a feature by default to another xubuntu version :)
[21:33] <Unit193> conoral11: Yeah, I'd do as you did and try to ping 8.8.8.8 and if that worked checked DNS, but since that's out...  Desktop and laptops cut out right?
[21:33] <nightyyx> hm feh dint find his place to a application category type
[21:33] <nightyyx> i have to use terminal to run it
[21:33] <Unit193> Could be router/modem?  I've never use ad-hoc connections.
[21:33] <nightyyx> and great...run errors :P
[21:34] <nightyyx> nightyyx@nightyyx-A6VA:~$ feh
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.ICEauthority - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.Xauthority - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.Xdefaults - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.bash_history - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.bash_logout - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.bashrc - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.chromium-bsu - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.gksu.lock - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.goutputstream-A0RTXW - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.goutputstream-JN67WW - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.goutputstream-LNUUWW - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.goutputstream-MQAIXW - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.goutputstream-P5KKXW - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.goutputstream-TCP9WW - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.gtk-bookmarks - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.profile - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.pulse-cookie - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <seronis> nightyyx:  for large pastes try using a pastebin site and just pasting the links
[21:34] <seronis> =-)
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.swn - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.swo - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.swp - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.viminfo - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.xscreensaver - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.xsession-errors - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:34] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./.xsession-errors.old - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:35] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./How to download youtube videos from terminal in Ubuntu.-qDQ4e0CKC8Q.mp4 - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:35] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./ex03_1.s - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:35] <nightyyx> feh WARNING: ./linux.dummies.pdf - No Imlib2 loader for that file format
[21:35] <nightyyx> feh: No loadable images specified.
[21:35] <nightyyx> See 'man feh' for detailed usage information
[21:35] <nightyyx> yeah my bad sorry :)
[21:35] <nightyyx> i used only once this great pastebin feature and havent it in my mind
[21:35] <seronis> also in the 'Appearance Conditions' tab the only checkmark i have is 'image files'
[21:35] <MrElg> oh, and i have sound notification on, that enchanting rythm
[21:35] <nightyyx> what you mean?
[21:35] <seronis> for 'feh'
[21:36] <seronis> in Thunar  Edit menu ->  Confingure Custom Actions
[21:36] <seronis> click  '+',   name/desc both to  'view as slideshow'
[21:36] <seronis> command is        feh -FZYzr -D5 %d
[21:36] <seronis> then in appearance conditions tab   'image files' is the only checkbox
[21:37] <seronis> after that right clicking on an image file in the thunar window will give you the 'view as slideshow' option
[21:37] <conoral11> Unit193: Ping 8.8.8.8, hung a while and is now saying host unreachable. The Laptop is always working (It is what I am writng to you on)
[21:37] <nightyyx> i should run this command in terminal?
[21:37] <seronis> no
[21:37] <seronis> type it inside the dialog box i just said
[21:37] <nightyyx> ok w8
[21:38] <Unit193> conoral11: I don't know, sorry.  All I can say is try restarting network-manager. :/
[21:39] <nightyyx> i went Edit menu ->  Confingure Custom Actions
[21:39] <seronis> good so far
[21:39] <nightyyx> and i did as you told me
[21:39] <nightyyx> but still cant find the slidshow option
[21:39] <seronis> its not an option.. you are MAKING the option
[21:39] <seronis> click the green plus icon
[21:40] <seronis> "create custom action"
[21:40] <nightyyx> yes
[21:40] <seronis> in the name and description fields type   "View As Slideshow" or whatever you want it to show up as
[21:40] <seronis> in the command field type  "feh -FZYzr -D5 %d"   but no quotation marks
[21:40] <nightyyx> ok
[21:40] <seronis> then click from the Basic tab to the Appearance Conditions tab
[21:40] <conoral11> Unit193: Thank you for you help nether the less!
[21:40] <seronis> and make sure "Image Files" is the only checkmark
[21:41] <seronis> i have an asterisk in the File Pattern with nothing else
[21:41] <seronis> click 'OK'
[21:41] <nightyyx> WOW! works like a charm! Amazing!
[21:41] <seronis> then 'Close',   then in the Thunar window navigate to a directory that has a bunch of images and right click one
[21:41] <seronis> =-)
[21:42] <nightyyx> ;)
[21:42] <nightyyx> its great now i can enjoy better some photos
[21:42] <seronis> the specific options in 'feh -FZYzr -D5 %d'  will make it do a 5 second delay between image swaps, random image selection and also RECURSIVE selection so it will look in all sub directories of the specific file you click on too
[21:42] <seronis> oh.. and auto stretch to fit window
[21:43] <seronis> but you can check out the arguments feh supports and set it to the behavior you prefer
[21:43] <nightyyx> your advices are precious :) i need a good detailed explanation of this command! thank you!
[21:44] <seronis> Q: does anyone know how to adjust those custom action commands so that they only show up in specific directories instead of with specific filetypes ?
[21:44] <seronis> cause i have one for grabbing the public link of my dropbox items and i would prefer the option not show up everywhere
[21:57] <nightyyx> having close drivers instead the open source drivers of a ati graphic card desktop will look different?
[21:59] <heoyea> hi
[22:28] <memand> WHY IN THE .... did the xubuntu installer just start dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda2??
[22:28] <memand> /dev/sda does not even have anything to do with where Im installing too
[22:38] <heoyea> ?
[22:39] <memand> Just my thoughts