[01:33] <oceanquake> Hello all.  I'm trying to install 13.04 burned from a download today.  I go into LiveDVD mode ("try Kubuntu"), get the networking setup, fire up the installer, and proceed through all the input screens.  On the last screen where presumably some file copying, etc., should be going on, the progress bar is stuck at 0% while displaying the message "Saving installed packages...".  The info panels above seem to move in and out as expected and the machine is
[01:33] <oceanquake> definitely not locked up.  If I go to the /tmp/tmp.<blah> mountpoint where the installer has mounted the / partition, I see the installer has not put anything there.  Any advice on getting the installer to actually install?
[01:34] <oceanquake> I have waited for a long time, so it's definitely not making progress.  I don't see anything suspicious in dmesg
[01:36] <oceanquake> AMD64, this a good machine that was previously running Ubuntu 10.10
[01:48] <oceanquake> The only non-standard thing I'm doing is I pre-created my partitions and filesystem layout before running the installer, but just told the installer what the mount points were for each partition.  I do this everytime I install (K)Ubuntu, with no problems in the past...
[04:10] <oceanquake> OK, confirmed that when I let it do the "guided" partitioning and just go with the first option it presents, the file copying actually does take place.
[04:39] <juniormendonca> looking for trillian like app at kubuntu
[08:16] <ussher_> Konqueror weirdness.  I just looked at the "Size:" property for a folder and it read '201.2 KiB'.  I figure thats the same as KB, but not sure.  Is it?  Wikipedia says a KiB is a kibibyte.  then has  some confusing numbers.
[08:16] <ussher_> anyone know if a kibibyte is the same as a KB ?
[08:24] <palasso> ussher_, KiB is defined to be 1024 Bytes, KB has two definitions. It's either 1000 or 1024 Bytes
[08:25] <ussher_> thanks palasso so close enough then.  cheers.
[08:25] <palasso> yw
[09:05] <snikker> i've run "sudo setfacl -d -R -m g:green-group:rwx /path/to/dir1", my user is into secondary group "green-group", but i'm unable to write into "dir1". Can you help me?
[09:16] <Guest33989> hi
[09:16] <Guest33989> is it possible to sync kontact with microsoft outook exchange?
[09:16] <Guest33989> exchange active sync
[09:26] <e_t_> Guest33989: you might give this a try https://syncevolution.org/wiki/ms-exchange-and-kde-synchronization
[09:27] <e_t_> Alternately, Exchange can be an IMAP server, which is well-supported by many clients.
[09:55] <Walex2> Guest33678: e_t_: I have tried various plugins etc. but the only setup that works well and realiably for me is to the the 'davmail' gateway proxy to MS Exchange.
[10:08] <moe_> oxay
[12:18] <seele> anyone have about 30 minutes for an interview about their kde notifications? it will earn a $5 donation to the kde e.v. for your participation
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:41] <seele> BluesKaj: have 30 minutes for an interview about your kde notifications? it will earn a $5 donation to the kde e.v. for your pariticpation :)
[12:43] <BluesKaj> seele, my kde notifications ? , please define that , I'm not sure what you wanr from me.
[12:43] <BluesKaj> want rather
[12:44] <seele> i'm studying the kde notification system.. the popups in your bottom right corner and the ( i ) icon
[12:44] <seele> that tell you when things happen on your system
[12:44] <BluesKaj> or is this a scipt ?
[12:45] <seele> so the popups that tell you when your battery is low, or you have a new email, etc.
[12:47] <BluesKaj> this is a desktop , so no battery notifications ...and I don't use kmail  so no email notifications for that
[12:47] <seele> you have all notifications turned off?
[12:48] <BluesKaj> I have very few notifications really , the notifier works , mostly when I transfer files
[12:48] <seele> ok
[15:07] <farside> hello. I have just upgrade to 13.04 and changed my graphic card from a nVidia to a AMD Radeon HD 4890 card. I'm unable to choose a higher resolution than 1600x1200, I would like 1920x1200. How could I verify that I'm using the opensource AMD drivers?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> farside, in the konsole , dkms status , will tell which driver is installed
[15:14] <BluesKaj> farside, if that shows nothing then do , lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes
[15:14] <farside> BluesKaj: ok. It show vboxhost, isn't that VirtualBox? How do I change it to radeon?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> so your on the VB ?
[15:16] <farside> BluesKaj: yes strangly enough, but I'm not in a virtual environment.
[15:18] <rainer____> hello
[15:18] <mokush> what's this thing I read on g+, about an interview regarding notifications in kde this weekend?
[15:18] <farside> BluesKaj: I have VirtualBox installed, but I don't think that is the problem
[15:18] <BluesKaj> mokush, I had kde member ask me abouit notifier earlier
[15:20] <BluesKaj> the command i gave should show your graphics driver , farside , which command showed the VB?
[15:21] <farside> BluesKaj: # dkms status
[15:21] <farside> vboxhost, 4.2.12, 3.8.0-22-generic, x86_64: installed
[15:23] <BluesKaj> farside, ok try this one , lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes
[15:23] <farside> BluesKaj: no output
[15:24] <farside> BluesKaj: if I remove the last grep I get 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV790 [Radeon HD 4890] [1002:9460] Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:031e]
[15:25] <BluesKaj> farside, ok , open kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers
[15:28] <farside> BluesKaj: No propritary drivers are in use on this system. And the two boxes below are empty (I'm not offered to install fglrx)
[15:28] <BluesKaj> greyed out ?
[15:28] <farside> BluesKaj: probably because HD 4890 isn't supported in the latest AMD-driver-packages
[15:29] <palasso> yeap I think that's the case since 12.10
[15:29] <farside> BluesKaj: no, empty. Only Enable is greyed out
[15:30] <farside> palasso: ok, but I think I'll be OK with the radeon drivers
[15:31] <BluesKaj> my radeon experience id very limited since I switched to nvidia due the very issue I had with ATI a few yrs ago  ..poor driver support
[15:35] <palasso> farside, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[15:35] <palasso> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx
[15:36] <TopGear> What's the exact difference in Kubuntu Active/full/desktop in de mini-iso install?
[15:38] <palasso> farside, you might also want to read this: http://ubuntuxtreme.com/howto/how-to-fix-your-amd-graphics-in-ubuntu-12-10/
[15:40] <palasso> farside, probably the problem you have on the resolution is sth else though not having to do with using the open source driver
[16:01] <farside> 5~5~5~
[16:09] <arulmagi> hello
[16:10] <arulmagi> will kubuntu 13.04 be supported by Cannonical?
[16:15] <farside> palasso: thank you :-) Now I finally got the right resolution.
[16:15] <palasso> yw
[16:15] <palasso> So it was fixed with the prop driver?
[16:16] <palasso> farside ^
[16:16] <farside> palasso: yes, the legacy one. Guess I'll have to buy a new card before 13.10, so that I don't have to downgrade xorg...
[16:16] <palasso> farside, or stay with 12.04
[16:17] <farside> palasso: 13.04... No, I'm going to upgrade to 13.10 when it's released
[16:17] <palasso> But the open source driver shouldn't have problems with the resolution. Anyway when 13.10 hits try it out on liveDVD to see how it'll work
[16:19] <palasso> Actually I was mentioning 12.04 because it's an LTS. In case you have a serious problem with resolution I would recommend either filling a bug report against the open source driver or staying on LTS since standard releases are supported only for 9 months. (Of course you may buy a newer GPU)
[16:19] <farside> palasso: yeah I know, but unsure what the problem is. I tried booting the 13.04 live-CD, and had no problem there. I got the right resolution without having to do anything
[16:19] <farside> yeah I know 12.04 is lts...
[16:20] <farside> palasso: so a reinstall would probably fix my problems, but no, I won't do that...
[16:21] <palasso> In that case since on liveDVD it worked fine then the problem is elsewhere and it got fixed now that you downgraded X.org and added amd prop driver...
[16:22] <palasso> farside, in linux in general you can do easy reinstallation with keeping your settings, data and installing easily your preferred software. It requires a little technical skill and some work in doing so but it's not like Windows ;)
[16:25] <Far^Side> palasso, yeah I know. I have never had Windows on this computer. But I use it at work, and reinstall/dist-upgrades on Windows sucks
[16:28] <Far^Side> Is exfat fully supported on kubuntu? Or at least as good as ntfs-3g?
[16:30] <palasso> Far^Side, http://superuser.com/questions/436368/how-to-open-exfat-ssd-in-ubuntu-12-04
[16:36] <Far^Side> palasso, ok, so there isn't any exfat drivers included by default?
[16:36] <palasso> No, as the post says exfat is proprietary but you can easily add it with the mentioned PPA.
[16:38] <palasso> Also it works on FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) because it's incompatible with the GPL which is the license of the linux kernel
[16:38] <palasso> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace
[16:39] <palasso> So there should be a speed penalty using exfat (than using it natively)
[16:39] <palasso> Far^Side, you might also wanna have a look at the website of the project: http://code.google.com/p/exfat/
[16:41] <Far^Side> palasso, ok
[16:43] <Far^Side> too bad WinDOS doesn't support ext4 natively.
[16:43] <palasso> Far^Side, I think NTFS-3G also works on FUSE
[16:44] <Far^Side> palasso, yes, you're right...
[16:51] <Artakha> Far^Side, there's an ext driver for windows that also manages ext3 and iirc ext4
[16:51] <Artakha> Far^Side, that being ext2fsd
[16:58] <Far^Side> Artakha, yeah I know... But I like native support...
[19:58] <lordievader> Good evening.
[20:17] <robotdevil> anyone here know why I cannot edit my kmenu, I can add item and change icon but cannot add the path to command
[20:18] <robotdevil> nm
[21:09] <luciano> ciao
[21:09] <kenami> ciao
[21:09] <luciano> un saluto da padova
[21:16] <luciano> irc://irc.explosionirc.net/Foolish.cr3w
[21:21] <luciano> irc://irc.rootworld.net/rock
[21:50] <neosimago> Asking about the suspend to ram issues in kubuntu/ubuntu. Has anyone found a guide to have it working on a lenovo thinkpad T410 laptop? Been googling it; not much seems to help. Please, thank you.
[22:13] <utopia> hi
[22:13] <utopia> :)
[22:14] <tekkbuzz> :)
[23:41] <zephyr28> Good day.  I'm having an issue: new install of Kubuntu 13.04 on a 20" HD monitor.  I need a way to increase the display size of ALL elements (I sit a ways away from the monitor).  Very difficult to read some UI elements (particularly in NetBeans).
[23:42] <zephyr28> I've already increased the default font size, which has helped a lot, but still having difficulty in some programs.
[23:51] <tekkbuzz> zephyr28: you can lower your screen resolution to globally increase the size of all elements.
[23:52] <zephyr28> tekkbuzz: I had considered that, but that would defeat the purpose of having a beautiful HD 1920 screen
[23:52] <tekkbuzz> I agree
[23:52] <zephyr28> tekkbuzz: I did find that I could increase the font size for NetBeans specifically, though.  That will work for now, I suppose.
[23:53] <zephyr28> Most other programs still have VERY small UI elements, though.  Chromium is another one that's nearly impossible to read.
[23:53] <tekkbuzz> when I first set up kde on ubuntu I had to change all the font sizes and also some other tweeks.
[23:54] <tekkbuzz> you try: system settings > application appearance ?
[23:55] <zephyr28> Yep
[23:55] <tekkbuzz> you can bump up your icon sizes, too.
[23:55] <zephyr28> Didn't see a way to change the sizes there.