=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [06:36] morning guys [06:37] morning '-'/ [06:37] Kilos, see CanStudy https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36318710/IMG_0212.JPG [06:38] well done lad [06:38] thanks :) [06:38] studying is starting to pay off already [06:39] tell more [06:42] not much more to tell right now :p [06:42] i have a job waiting in Korea, just need to sort out my documents and get going :) [06:42] then what you mean by its paying off already [06:42] job is waiting :) [06:42] oh great [06:42] they wanted me to go there next week [06:43] but it's too soon, so i'll get a September position instead [06:43] as magespawn says cool beans [06:43] hehe [06:43] :) [06:49] ive always wondered, once you have the qualifications do you throw that funny hat away? [06:50] hi georgelappies you early [06:50] the attire was hired [06:50] ah [06:50] only had it at the venue [06:50] and i had to put down a R 300 deposit [06:50] wow [06:51] for 300 bucks i want a nice leather jacket at least [06:51] lol [06:52] or more ram [06:52] i'd go with the ram [06:52] well, i have enough [06:52] but if i needed it [06:52] lol [06:52] ultimate aim here is 15 with 8g ram [06:53] i have 8 GB :) i use about 7% of it :) [06:53] this pc can only take 2x1g [06:53] :( [06:54] * Cantide sends Kilos a PC [06:54] and cant find another 1g so using 1.5g [06:54] gracias [06:54] sdr ram still this m/b [06:54] ._. [06:55] i actually got one but it clashes with this 1g one in here [06:55] grrr [06:55] ram so particular [06:56] yeah, ram is one of the weakest components [06:56] :( [06:56] but it's relatively cheap [06:56] i got my 8GB for under R 300 [06:56] ddr3 is cheap [06:56] yup [06:57] so it pays to have a newish m/b [06:57] instead of buying aging ram [06:57] sdr is R250 if you can find one for 1g [06:57] not worth it :p [06:58] nope [06:58] and it's more likely to fail [06:58] because it's old [06:59] ive never had one fail but they clash if not the same make [06:59] ah yeah [06:59] i've had that before .-. [07:00] hi jmagunduni [07:00] hi Kilos . [07:49] hi Vince-0 [07:49] g'day g'day [07:49] the fly will be there 2nd june [07:50] poke them okeys organizing the UH [07:57] k [08:04] *poke nuvolari, kbmonkey [08:05] I'll email em [08:05] ty Vince-0 [08:05] i dunno if pokes work from here [08:05] ctcp pings maybe [08:06] i think thats what they are called [08:07] maybe just a get together so you guys can meet the fly [08:09] Cantide, you see? [08:10] last chance to meet the fly, i dont think he will go to korea [08:11] hello peeps [08:11] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:23] whats news ThatGraemeGuy ? [08:23] Kilos, hahaha :p [08:24] not much, wet, rainy, relaxed sunday down here :) [08:24] and you? [08:25] lol just checking up on all the guys [08:25] and feeling sorry for the fly [08:25] thats a long journey [08:26] and playing with pcs as usual. even got win7 going on other pc [08:29] sounds like fun [08:29] i used to do stuff like that [08:29] hehe [08:29] no time anymore :) [08:29] yeah you guys are too busy [08:30] speaking of which, it's time for me to go colour in [08:30] :-D [08:30] hehe [08:30] happy sunday, chat again tomorrow [08:30] * ThatGraemeGuy disappears [08:30] you too [08:30] enjoy [10:51] nice that the fly keeping us posted on his journey through middle earth [11:57] Kilos: heya [12:00] You there? [12:00] hi Xethron [12:01] sup? [12:01] Kilos: I got the seals form seal center [12:01] So thanks :) [12:01] cool [12:01] But I realized I missed one... So I'll be going in next weekend to get one more [12:01] lol [12:01] But the ones on the pipes are fitted [12:02] So not sure if they are working, but will find out soon enough [12:02] good you just gotta stop any air getting in then you are fine [12:03] I still see bubbles in the pipes, but not sure why [12:03] Will see if it continues [12:03] Next idea is to replace the diesel filter again [12:03] thats in the pipe to the pump from the filter? [12:03] how old is the filter [12:04] It goes in/out of the filter (Not sure about direction) [12:04] brand new [12:04] Thats when problems started [12:04] right after I replaced the diesel filter [12:05] if you disconnect the pipe from the tank does diesel come through easy [12:05] or must you suck hard [12:06] could be some blockage that side [12:06] or even another filter [12:06] one often gets dirty diesel from pumps [12:07] maybe try get a manual for your vehicle [12:08] must be one online somewhere to download [12:09] hmm [12:11] even a sieve or strainer in or near the tank [12:11] Well, everything was working fine before my last service [12:11] Only once I replaced the Diesel filter did the problems start [12:12] ya but that can be because old seals had bedded them selves in well over time === Cantide is now known as CanCycle [13:05] greets [13:05] o/ [13:06] what's up not_found [13:06] not to much kbmonkey , and there? [13:07] same. too lazy today to play with python or bash :p [13:08] :) [13:10] I could not get puppy linux booting off usb :( [13:49] hi kbmonkey [13:49] not_found, too [13:50] kbmonkey, you guys organising an UH or some get together for the 2nd when the fly arrives [13:50] ? [13:51] alo [13:53] hi Kilos, yes [13:53] for the 2nd [13:54] yip thats when he says he will be there === CanCycle is now known as Cantide [13:55] forgot to ask if he was only arriving then or will be there from night before [13:56] he might be on here tonight from ahga haga wherever that might be [13:57] I am not sure, I guess its a few day thing [13:59] 'so kbmonkey tell me where to get crunchbang with wget and what all i will need to get it going please [13:59] gotta use some night surfer [14:00] yo oom [14:00] yo trender [14:01] ate far to much at ocean basket [14:01] came home beached my self on the bed [14:01] lekker [14:01] lol [14:01] food sounds good! [14:01] not lekker felt like i needed to puke [14:02] any particular reason you want to try crunchbang Kilos ? find it here: http://crunchbang.org/download/ [14:02] ty [14:02] it's just over 700MB [14:03] remember it is openbox. but since wheezy went stable it is pretty nice [14:03] and then upgrades? [14:03] will look at it if i can stay up so late in the cold [14:03] I made a new install last night, the upgrades for a clean install is about 300MB [14:04] whew [14:04] does your *buntu not work so well, or are you just bored Kilos? [14:04] all threee ubuntu's running fine so no probs to sort [14:05] but I do that too, at month end if there is data over I will download a new linux :) [14:05] hehe [14:06] I recommend the 32-bit [14:06] my pc only does 32 bit [14:07] you can always run a command that wil sleep and then start the download for you later, so you don't have to click the button yoruself. [14:08] how much memory does your PC carry, Kilos? [14:08] 1.5g [14:09] then you don't need the PAE version. that only allows your pc to use more then 3GB of memory [14:09] I don't suppose you download with torrent often? [14:10] never [14:10] do you have "transmission" apps? [14:10] ? [14:11] what is openbox? [14:11] openbox is a window manager. === Xethron_ is now known as Xethron === Cantide is now known as CanShower [14:13] like you have the xfce window manager [14:14] oh not like xmonad [14:14] just know Kilos: there is no 'start' button. you right-click on the desktop for the menu. [14:14] no not like xmonad :) [14:14] whew [14:14] hehe [14:14] its stacking, that means it behaves like gnome/xfce [14:15] ill give it a try when i got it [14:15] it is just very light. it has hundreds (almost!) of themes to choose from [14:15] with package manager and so on? [14:15] light is good for old pcs [14:16] it uses aptitude, the same as ubuntu before the software manager existed [14:16] cool [14:17] you still have a taskbar that shows you open windows, and a tray with the clock and such [14:18] well if i get it and cant get it going ill mail you to come chat here [14:18] oh you had 3g probs too [14:18] sure! [14:18] no nm that works [14:18] ya 8ta put their site in 'maintennace' mode last night [14:19] transmission is to program used to download from torrent [14:19] whats the diffs [14:19] you just download the .torrent file, and click on it, and transmission opens it. you choose where to save the .iso, and click add [14:20] does ubuntu come with transmission by default? [14:20] or doyou have something else? [14:20] i like wget because net sucks [14:20] you cant wget because its a torrent [14:20] and -c does continue [14:20] kbmonkey: it does [14:20] aw [14:20] but its fine because torrent also continues [14:20] oh [14:21] hi tumbleweed [14:21] hi Kilos [14:21] hi tumbleweed [14:21] re transmission: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703671/ [14:21] ty [14:21] so, transmission-gtk is on the CD for most of the flavours [14:21] and 12.04 [14:22] Kilos, I ask because I can help you set up the download. then you can run a command in terminal that will start transmission for you tonight, so you can go sleep :) [14:22] lol [14:22] lol [14:22] ah thanks for the info tumbleweed, yes I thought transmission came by default [14:23] must i do something with that paste [14:23] no, that was just informational [14:23] cool ty [14:24] Transmission is a file-sharing program. When you run a torrent, its data will be made available to others by means of upload. You and you alone are fully responsible for exercising proper judgement and abiding by your local laws. [14:24] ? [14:25] i found the thing wit5h dash [14:25] with as well [14:27] must i accept that kbmonkey === CanShower is now known as Cantide [14:32] transmission is a torrent client, torrents are often used to spread illegal material [14:32] if you dont download anything illegal with it you will be fine [14:33] its for download linux distros Tonberry_ [14:34] kilos, I writ you some steps on how you can setup transmission to auto download for you late at night: [14:34] http://pastebin.com/S2VmWFcc [14:34] just saying torrent clients are perfectly legal as long as you only download/upload legal content like linux isos [14:34] * Cantide clicks on kbmonkey's link [14:35] wbb [14:35] oh, thanks nice info, thanks :) [14:36] cool Cantide :) sleep is a great command. I use if often [14:38] Cantide, you can try this on for size: alias coffee='(sleep 270 && zenity --info --title="coffee" --text="Coffee ready\!") &' [14:39] umm... [14:39] what does that do? [14:40] it creates an alias called "coffee" that pops up a message after 5 minutes announcing that coffee is ready. lol. [14:41] lol [14:41] nice if the kettle is boiling [14:42] oh my scanner detected incoming UFO! [14:42] yes it is lol [14:42] o_O [14:42] openxcom [14:43] arg, it got away. my interceptors are not fast enough [14:45] ty kbmonkey [14:45] hy psychicist [14:47] oh.. [14:48] where can i get that? [14:48] oh [14:48] i found it after a simple google search :p [14:48] there is a site for openxcom :) [14:48] you do need the original game data files though [14:48] ah, and yeah [14:48] i just saw that [14:48] so.. not possible -.- [14:48] unless i pirate it [14:49] i've actually got the original of a newer one [14:49] all pretty and 3D [14:49] but it's for Windows -.- [14:51] which one is that Cantide? [14:51] umm [14:51] hold on [14:51] kbmonkey, whats with all the flashing adds in that paste [14:51] i'll look for it [14:52] kbmonkey, UFO: Afterlight [14:52] pastebin has ads? [14:53] old games like those are abondonware [14:54] yeah [14:55] slexy.org is much better [14:55] what is for dinner everyone? [14:55] only your paste not the wweeds [14:56] strange. I use adblock, hardly see any. [14:56] if i got the energy will make chilli bites [14:56] kbmonkey, some kind of pilaf [14:56] what about you? [14:57] oooh pilaf! good good. [14:57] not sure yet Cantide, I might just make burgers [14:57] or roast vegetables [15:00] i've actually been dying to make burgers [15:00] tired of KFC or McDonald's burgers [15:01] eeek tired of kentucky [15:01] best chicken out [15:01] * not_found hears burgers and gets hungry [15:01] hehe dont they make them there not_found ? [15:02] camel burgers [15:02] sure, we have way more choices in the big city i would suspect than SA... this place is little america :p [15:02] but I am in the small town so I have to eat the lesser known burgers... [15:03] lol [15:03] wife decided it is eggs and bacon for dinner cause she not in the mood to cook :p [15:03] which is fair enough :) [15:03] thats good too [15:03] I am also not in the mood to cook [15:03] bacon lekker at anytime [15:04] wonder if we have real bacon ...?! [15:04] anyway turkey bacon is the best bacon ever... [15:04] i'll just throw some stuff in the oven and let it cook itself. he he [15:04] slow cookers are good for single peeps [15:04] * not_found does that to the microwave [15:05] chuck everything in in the morning and eat at night [15:08] hi Kilos [15:08] hallo Cantide :) [15:08] hello :) [15:08] hi kbmonkey [15:08] hi not_found [15:09] o/ [15:09] psychicist, welcome to ubuntu-za [15:09] I decided to finally set up irssi on kubuntu, now I need to get a computer I can have connected 24/7 [15:09] Kilos, it's me psydroid using my original nick [15:09] you dont like quassel and konversation? [15:09] oh [15:09] sneaky [15:10] I haven't tried either of them yet [15:10] hehe [15:10] I just need to join a large number of channels and only irssi has been able to do so without problems so far [15:12] the fly uses many channels on quassel [15:12] and the pro can tell you about konversation [15:12] i use it on kubuntu [15:12] lots a stuff you can configure [15:16] yeah, I will check them out, thanks [15:17] good evening [15:18] hi charl_ [15:18] hi charl_ you sue kubuntu and quassel [15:18] hi psychicist [15:18] Kilos: i use kubuntu but not quassel, i use irssi [15:18] use [15:18] ah [15:18] Maaz: coffee on [15:18] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [15:18] Kilos: is there something you wanted to know? [15:19] psychicist, is setting up irssi there and i told him try konversation or quassel [15:19] i didnt enjoy irssi [15:19] it's a personal preference [15:20] i tried quassel but didn't like it myself, never tried konversation for irc [15:21] i run irssi inside screen, it's handy because i can run it on my desktop or on a server [15:21] konversation quassel and xchat are very similar but i find you can configure more in konversation [15:21] you can do a bunch of configuration inside irssi, even themes and stuff, but i never bother [15:22] i literally use irssi as-is [15:22] Coffee's ready for charl_! [15:23] Maaz: thanks [15:23] charl_: Sure [15:23] like ctrl+r puts a line across where you want it to so you can check any other time without going past where you left off [15:23] that's a handy feature [15:23] yeah [15:24] and i got konversation to bloep like xchat which i couldnt with quassel [15:24] i found quassel's user interface to be very confusing as a first--timer [15:24] it's not like other irc clients [15:24] but that doesn't make it bad or anything [15:25] but the okes with quassel client can bounce from fone to pc etc with same nick [15:25] ya you gotta sit and think with quassel [15:25] you can do that with any bnc or if you run irssi+screen as well [15:25] it might be handy to have the bnc integrated with your irc client but it's not a necessity [15:26] if you have irssi+screen running on the terminal you can use irc from any device with an ssh client [15:26] not sure how irssi would look at mobile phone resolution though [15:26] should work fine on a tablet === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [15:27] well the pro and fly and a few others use quassel so it must have merits [15:27] i like xchat :) [15:27] yeah, like i said, personal preference [15:27] yup [15:27] there is no other functionality i need [15:27] i like xchat too actually, a good all-round x-based client :) [15:27] so this is fine :) [15:27] oh [15:28] xchat works best on ubuntu [15:28] no sound on kde though [15:28] i didn't even realise the x stood for x (as silly as that sounds) [15:28] lol [15:28] no idea if it does, i just assumed it does [15:29] Cantide: btw, check out what i found yesterday: http://www.crazykawaii.com/ [15:29] in paris this september [15:30] * Cantide clicks [15:30] those shirts for 2 people look rather impractical :D [15:31] what happens when one person needs the toilet? [15:33] where is that? haven't seen it [15:34] that giant flash ad that changes now and then [15:34] oh, i think i saw it briefly [15:34] :p [15:34] yeah crazy japan stuff but it looks hilarious [15:34] i see i can travel with eurolines from utrecht to paris for about 18 euro return ticket [15:34] o_O [15:34] utrecht is about 1,5 hours from here on the train [15:35] cool :) [15:35] just need to find a hotel then [15:35] yeah it looks like a good excuse to get out of the house :) [15:36] i always sit online i need to get out of the house :) [15:36] do it :D [15:36] yeah i'll organise it, i have too much leave anyway [15:36] i have like 400 hours saved up :( [15:37] i can only tranfer 120 hours over to next year so i'll lose the rest if i don't use it [15:38] o.o [15:38] ah, in September i should be in Korea '-'v [15:39] heh i see julie watai will also be there, she is the girl in this film: http://youtu.be/cu7HQWHnzp8 [15:39] a girl in a maid outfit soldering ... only in japan :) [15:39] lol [15:41] haha [15:41] "will he speak Martian" [15:41] i like her :p [15:41] yeah it's a furby hack, you wire it differently and it speaks funny [15:43] yeah kawaii otome-san des ne! :P [15:43] lol [15:44] i didn't watch all of it :p [15:44] so i didn't hear the result [15:44] >.< [15:44] you can skip ahead but it's not too interesting [15:45] ok i need to go off and do stuff [15:45] bbl [15:47] see ya :p [16:05] your tail has grown longer [16:07] lol [16:07] is it not strange how potatoes burn cuts worse than onions. [16:18] finally got around to sorting out and uploading my photos from the other day: http://imgur.com/a/oIIcm [16:18] got some nice ones [16:19] bah netsplit === charl__ is now known as charl_ [16:22] hi smile4ever [16:31] hi charl_ [16:31] :D [16:31] Have you seen my work on Wikipedia regarding soortenbank.nl? :p [16:32] hi smile4ever [16:33] Hi Kilos :) [16:38] hmm... serious split [16:38] ah they back [16:47] hi Julius129 [16:47] wb [16:47] hey Kilos :) [16:54] hello Julius129. hello Kilos [16:55] hi my monkey [16:55] the oven is almost done making my food [16:55] he he [16:56] oh ya [16:56] you need to sort the topics thing [16:56] on no thats the pro [16:56] i missed the meeting [16:56] :( [16:57] yeah [16:57] oh well there is one every month [16:57] you can read the minutes if kbmonkey still has the link [16:57] maybe we should have an irc get together midway through the month [16:58] maaz will supply the drinks [16:58] hehe [16:58] i was on a plane monday night, with no wi-fi [16:58] anything you like as long as its cyber coffee [16:59] aw Julius129 never mind [17:01] no beer? [17:01] i dont think maaz allows [17:02] has anyone here hacked laptop firmware to support a different kind of minipci 3g card than the one offered by the manufacturer [17:04] Julius129, maybe try the flasrom guys [17:04] flashrom [17:04] #flashrom [17:05] they mess with it all the time [17:05] smile4ever: no, but it sounds interesting, tell me more :) [17:05] smile4ever: btw, i was close to belgium the other day, in maastricht [17:06] Nice, and you didn't come to visit me? :( [17:06] where are you exactly? [17:06] took a bunch of nice photos: http://imgur.com/a/oIIcm [17:06] http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciaal:Bijdragen/SmileBot <- The taxon ID's on soortenbank.nl have changed a while ago. I fixed those wrong ID's on wikipedia :) [17:07] ah i see, good work [17:07] charl_: exactly? Belsele :) That's near Sint-Niklaas (between Gent & Antwerpen, but more closely to Antwerpen) [17:07] charl_: thanks :) [17:07] ah i see [17:08] i don't know how the public transport works in belgium, i need to figure it out [17:08] in NL we have the ov chipkaart system [17:08] but i want to spend some more time in belgium this year [17:08] It works quite well :) Here you can just buy a ticket on the bus or buy a ticket in the station for the train [17:09] There are also De Lijn-winkels, where you can buy a "prepaid" bus card :) [17:09] We have "zones", they cost 80 cents each === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [17:09] over 3 zones just counts as three (up to 9 for the price of 3) [17:10] ah i see [17:10] so for three zones you pay 1,60+0,80 = 2,40 [17:10] in NL they are trying to move away from handling cash on the bus as it is time consuming [17:10] i think they are trying to make it mandatory to travel using rfid [17:10] Yeah here you have a SMS number for De Lijn :D [17:10] in principle it's a good thing because it's super convenient but there are (naturally) privacy concerns [17:10] you can buy a digital ticket that way :) [17:11] ah i see [17:11] another place i want to visit this summer: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanse_Tuin_(Hasselt) [17:11] But it won't work well for you, since you have a Dutch rather than a Belgium sim card [17:11] Cool :) [17:12] You're welcome here :D [17:12] i don't even have a cellphone lol [17:12] yeah but they need to do something about the roaming rates [17:12] i live a few KM from the german border, people who travel close to or across the border has to pay roaming fees [17:13] sometimes you are still in NL but you connect to a german tower then you "roam" [17:13] that's not good, especially not for people who live close to the border [17:14] wow this is sad: http://tweakers.net/nieuws/89285/google-gebruik-xmpp-chatprotocol-gestopt-vanwege-gebrek-aan-interesse.html [17:15] charl_: lol :D [17:16] charl_: that sucks [17:16] ;) [17:16] Yeah, I already read that on another site ;) [17:16] i use swissjabber.ch at the moment [17:16] it was one of the biggest + point of google talk that they based it on xmpp [17:19] i hate to say this but i agree with them regarding xmpp [17:19] i don't feel the standard has been moving forward enough either [17:20] and to a large extent i feel it is over complex [17:20] thanks Kilos [17:21] oh, i tried their new chat hangout thingy.. [17:21] it wasn't so good [17:21] so i reverted to the old chat [17:22] we need a new standard, something that is simpler but also more modern, and includes simple muc and voip [17:23] + video [17:23] true that [17:23] good evening [17:23] + invisible mode [17:23] possibly even integrate things like desktop sharing [17:23] hi inetpro [17:23] hi inetpro [17:24] hi inetpro you wanna set topic right [17:25] im making chilli bites [17:25] wbb [17:25] Kilos: who will be the chair in our next meeting and when will it be? [17:25] looks like the 17th which is a holiday i think [17:25] kbmonkey, talk to the pro [17:25] hmm... on a holiday? [17:26] charl_: yeah maybe it is [17:26] Kilos: that sounds delicious, i love spicy food [17:26] why they don't plug in on IRC? :p [17:26] hehe [17:26] hard work [17:26] Vince-0: who's the next chair? [17:26] i cant member inetpro either the monkey or Vince-0 [17:26] kbmonkey: is it your turn? [17:27] smile4ever: you could probably introduce voip etc using xdcc but you would need the concept of a contact list [17:27] smile4ever: let's face it, that's probably the only real missing "feature" of irc [17:27] vidoe chat [17:27] video [17:27] like camfrog [17:28] Kilos: you guys must not forget to elect the next chair like that [17:28] trender: how do you mean? [17:28] camfrog is like irc with cams [17:28] yeah but is it based on the irc standard? [17:28] Kilos: you're in charge of remembering these things :-) [17:28] nope win client [17:29] ah ok [17:29] not irc at all [17:29] we were talking mostly about standards now, not implementations [17:29] inetpro, was confused with th agenda page for starters [17:29] but the idea is to keep interoperability, not let everyone create their own little "island" [17:29] Kilos: ai! [17:30] didnt wanna let peeps add to start with [17:30] Kilos: so who must I add as chair now? [17:31] shall we just give Vince-0 another go or is he fired now? [17:31] ya go with Vince-0 the monkey helps [17:31] :-) [17:31] we dont fire peeps we ask them nicely to resign [17:31] ok, I will add Vince-0 for now [17:31] diplomatically [17:32] Maaz, diplomat [17:32] A diplomat is a person who can tell others to go to hell in such a nice way that they look forward to the trip [17:32] i go fry my bites [17:33] hey, wot wot [17:33] kbmonkey knows the commands [17:33] I have 'em here somewhere.. [17:34] hmm.. if only I can find Vince-0 on the list [17:34] Vince-0: are you even a member of ubuntu-za on launchpad? [17:35] (19:27:27) charl_: smile4ever: let's face it, that's probably the only real missing "feature" of irc -> yeah ;) [17:36] Vince-0: I found you under other users" [17:36] *under "other users" [17:39] ya I couldn't find my own account === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-za to: Ubuntu South Africa http://ubuntu-za.org || MList: http://bit.ly/MCOujZ || PBin: http://slexy.org/ || Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com || Next Meeting: Mon, 17 Jun 19:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/18snzox || Twitter: https://twitter.com/ubuntuza [17:42] Kilos: that better? [17:43] Vince-0: you need to register as a ubuntu-za member so you can be on that list [17:43] Vince-0: go to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za [17:44] +join this team [17:45] ah, that's better :-) [18:12] ty inetpro [18:13] Julius129, let me know what they say [18:13] they the bios hackers [18:13] dankie vir die hulp inetpro , hoe gaan dinge met julle [18:14] plus2 is soos minus2 nou [18:14] hehe werk hy hard [18:15] you see the agenda doesnt show the chosing chair etc [18:15] plesier oom [18:15] what happened [18:16] Kilos: hmm.... verduidelik weer asb... wat is fount? [18:16] fout* [18:17] onthou die agenda het als gewys [18:17] greeting etc etc new chair etc [18:17] ahh... ek het nog nie die detail gelaai nie [18:17] moet een vir een gedoen word [18:18] ai skuus man [18:18] het nie nou tyd of genoeg data om dit te doen nie [18:18] jy moet n template spaar daarvan [18:19] Kilos: als is by http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za/meetings/history/ [18:19] en? [18:19] s/als/alles/ [18:20] enigiemand kan die voriges gebruik vir templates [18:20] jy lees net wat jy wil ne inetpro [18:20] hoe gaan dit daar dammit [18:20] ai! [18:20] hahaha [18:21] gaan goed dankie oom [18:21] en werk? [18:21] ons kom stadig maar seker daar [18:21] hoe lank nog? [18:21] so 'n skuiwery is baie werk [18:21] ja ek sien so [18:22] Kilos: volgende jaar sal ek seker weer rustig wees :-) [18:22] ohi superfly [18:23] sjoe volgende jaar eers [18:23] ek sal dooi sonder jy en vlieg hier [18:23] nee ek grap net... sal kyk hoe ek tyd kan maak om hier te kuier [18:23] ai! [18:24] jy sallie glo nie ek het 7 wat die 3g deel hier [18:24] maar daar is tye waar ons tans soos afkop hoenders voel [18:24] almal wil onmiddelik gehelp word [18:24] sjoe [18:24] is die nuwe kables en goed darem mooi gedoen [18:25] 7 wat 3g deel? [18:25] hey magespawn is it you or quassel that here [18:26] win7 deur ethernet cable sonder router [18:26] hmm... [18:26] weet nie mooi wat ek daarvan moet dink nie [18:27] en wil vanaand daai os van die apie try kry [18:27] die ding is dit werk man [18:27] ek is nie verly nie [18:27] os soos in 'n bees? [18:27] vat maar my epos nick weer vir n ruk [18:27] crunchbang [18:28] :-) [18:28] kannie sleg wees nie dit gebruik aptitude [18:29] ek het groot geword toe my pa nog met osse geploeg en geplant het man [18:29] lol [18:29] dis groot werk ne [18:30] eintlik ongelooflik wat hy destyds alles gedoen het met daai beeste [18:30] hulle is sterk man [18:30] maar ja dit was rowwe tye, baie harde werk [18:30] gesien al waar osse ploeg waar n trekker opstaan [18:31] daai ander gras [18:31] kweek [18:31] kwaai taai wortel stelsel [18:34] bye! :) [18:34] ciao smile4ever [18:34] toods smile4ever [18:34] good night :) [18:34] sleep tight [18:34] Kilos: thanks, you too :) [18:34] this is a strange one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704406/ [18:34] ty [18:34] look at the Head_Flying_Hours [18:34] this drive is a few months old [18:35] the Raw_Read_Error_Rate is also pretty high [18:37] and the Seek_Error_Rate but look at the Power_On_Hours [18:37] makes no sense whatsoever, i have never seen this before [18:37] anyone with ideas? [18:37] i think the smart on this drive has turned dumb [18:38] hehe [18:39] seriously, this is a new drive and it has been like this right from the start [18:39] disable smart and keep using it [18:39] i have never had any issues with it though [18:39] refurbished drive perhaps? [18:39] i don't know if you can disable smart but it doesn't make a difference [18:39] Tonberry_: no a brand new drive from Dell [18:39] in bios i think [18:40] maybe they have in fact reused an old drive, but that's hard to believe [18:40] my other (primary) drive is normal [18:41] i'll run this by some of my colleagues tomorrow, see what they say [18:41] in principle it doesn't matter, it's just weird and now i don't know if something goes wrong [18:42] i like to run a smart test every couple of weeks [18:43] why? [18:43] just to monitor how the drive is doing, if i see a lot of errors all of a sudden i need to order a new drive [18:44] i've never really been any good at reading raw smart data [18:44] most of it isn't rocket science and you can google what you don't understand [18:44] there are a lot of guides online [18:45] charl_, order one and keep it in the cupboard and keep a good backup of this one [18:45] it will most likely last years still [18:45] i do backups in any case and we actually do keep a spare drive in the office for safety [18:45] when you arent prepared the you have troubles [18:45] in principle it doesn't matter too much, but now i'm just curious [18:46] leave well enough alone they say [18:46] yeah but i wonder about what Tonberry_ said just now, about a refurbished drive [18:46] if it aint broke dont fix it [18:46] they shouldn't sell a drive as new if it isn't new [18:47] query from the manufacturers and give the bar code [18:47] they keep records [18:47] good idea [18:47] nah i just like to keep these things in check :) [18:48] hehe [18:48] run fsck and if it sees no probs forget about it [18:51] there actually is a command to check for bad blocks too [18:51] i could do that [18:52] it also marks them so they arent used i think [18:52] there's this tool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badblocks [18:52] but you get info about if there are any [18:53] when i find the command ill ping you [18:53] thanks! [18:53] could be anywhere here [18:54] http://askubuntu.com/questions/104063/how-can-i-know-the-number-of-bad-sectors-on-my-hard-drive [18:55] dont remember if that was it. i got the commands saved somewhere [18:55] maybe its as you say the smart is sick [18:56] thats in firmware isnt it [18:57] charl_, it looks like them commands if i member right [18:58] ah i see [18:58] thanks a lot [18:58] i'll try it tomorrow [18:58] yw [18:58] helps to play with old scrap drives at times [18:59] but also when a new drive is faulty and a few peeps complain they give patches for the firmware [19:02] yeah it's 10-1 just faulty firmware [19:05] but if new they replace under gaurantee as well [19:05] garauntee [19:05] that thing [19:56] Maaz, coffee on [19:56] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [19:56] Maaz, large [19:56] In a beer mug just for you Kilos [19:56] superfly, you travelling again tomorrow? [20:00] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [20:00] Maaz, thanks [20:00] Kilos: Sure [20:01] night all sleep tight [20:43] nn all [21:45] oh my, transmission flys [21:45] my modem must be cooking [21:46] 808mB in 45 mins [21:47] night again guys