| knome | skellat, i think micahg said anything that's in the xubuntu seed is in the xubuntu packageset | 09:24 |
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| elfy | ochosi: I installed the ppa and the new greybird, it all appeared to work - however at the login screen - very very dark and no way to change session or anything - all I could do was either login as me or guest | 10:06 |
| bluesabre | hey elfy | 10:32 |
| elfy | hi bluesabre :) | 10:32 |
| bluesabre | the session controls are in the upper right now :) | 10:32 |
| elfy | oh right ;) | 10:32 |
| elfy | wish I'd been told that before :p I'd have checked them out lol | 10:33 |
| bluesabre | :D | 10:33 |
| bluesabre | as a quick changelog.. | 10:33 |
| * elfy doesn't use that install much it is more or less as installed with no music ... | 10:33 | |
| bluesabre | session and locale are in the system tray | 10:33 |
| bluesabre | a clock can be enabled by adding some settings to lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf | 10:34 |
| elfy | oh right - you want me to check that as well? | 10:34 |
| bluesabre | you're welcome to, but you shouldn't have to | 10:34 |
| bluesabre | are the symbolic icons and text showing up as the white-like color? | 10:35 |
| elfy | so what does need checking - login (which I've done) and session and locale | 10:35 |
| elfy | in the top right? | 10:35 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 10:35 |
| elfy | didn't notice them - login box was DARK - couldn't really read it very well | 10:36 |
| elfy | couple of minutes and I'll be back | 10:36 |
| elfy | bluesabre: ok - yes the symbolic icons in the top right are 'white' and readable | 10:40 |
| bluesabre | most things should be dark, but the text and icons should all have a nice contrast and be visible | 10:40 |
| bluesabre | good | 10:41 |
| elfy | for what it's worth - I'd 'prefer' to see those top right icons with rounded corners - they look rather stark | 10:41 |
| bluesabre | ochosi ^ | 10:42 |
| elfy | did restart from the icon - the 'selecte'd option ie you want to restart was readable, but the other 'no I don't want to' was again unreadable | 10:42 |
| bluesabre | ah | 10:42 |
| elfy | all looks ok in general and works - but I'd prefer to be able to read the 'unused option's to be more apparent | 10:42 |
| elfy | the login box itself - can just read username - password box is fine - login button is just readable | 10:43 |
| elfy | bluesabre: does that help and make sense? | 10:44 |
| bluesabre | I think so | 10:44 |
| elfy | ok :) | 10:44 |
| bluesabre | Would you mind installing xserver-xephyr and then running lightdm --test-mode | 10:44 |
| elfy | you think it helps or you think it makes sense :p | 10:44 |
| elfy | sigh - more time without music :( | 10:44 |
| elfy | lol | 10:45 |
| bluesabre | if you do the above command you can take a screenshot since it will keep you in your session | 10:45 |
| elfy | aah cool | 10:45 |
| knome | elfy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/ReleaseProcess | 10:45 |
| knome | elfy, add things as you feel appropriate! | 10:45 |
| elfy | ok | 10:46 |
| elfy | brb - off to boring install again :) | 10:46 |
| forestpiskie | bluesabre: | 10:51 |
| forestpiskie | http://imagebin.org/259009 | 10:51 |
| bluesabre | thanks! | 10:52 |
| bluesabre | ochosi ^^ | 10:52 |
| bluesabre | thats a bug forestpiskie, one that ochosi has not been getting :) | 10:52 |
| knome | PEBKAC? | 10:54 |
| bluesabre | ..? | 10:55 |
| knome | "problem exists between keyboard and chair" ? | 10:55 |
| bluesabre | I've never heard that one before :D | 10:56 |
| forestpiskie | bluesabre anything else I can do here? | 10:56 |
| bluesabre | that should do it | 10:56 |
| bluesabre | Thanks a lot! | 10:56 |
| forestpiskie | ok :) | 10:56 |
| elfy | bluesabre: if there's anything else just ask | 11:01 |
| bluesabre | sure thing | 11:02 |
| elfy | knome: and it's pebkacmya :p | 11:02 |
| knome | hmmm... :P | 11:03 |
| elfy | suppose I could have used a vm - just thought it would be a better test with real hardware | 11:03 |
| knome | real hardware is always cool | 11:04 |
| elfy | yea | 11:05 |
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| micahg | knome: well, anything in universe should be in the seed | 17:14 |
| micahg | knome: err...packageset | 17:14 |
| micahg | errr...anything in universe in the seed should be in the packageset | 17:20 |
| knome | micahg, mmh, yeah | 17:43 |
| knome | micahg, maybe note that in the wikipage | 17:43 |
| micahg | which one? | 17:49 |
| knome | micahg, let me find that for you | 17:50 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Saucy/EnablingXubuntuDevelopers | 17:51 |
| knome | that one | 17:51 |
| knome | so, i'm working on xubuntu website improvements | 18:51 |
| knome | http://xstaging.lallinaho.fi/ | 18:52 |
| knome | how does the new navigation look? | 18:52 |
| lderan | looks cool | 18:52 |
| Unit193 | Hah, fade-through looks terrible on here. :D | 18:57 |
| Unit193 | knome: Looks great! | 18:57 |
| knome | good | 18:58 |
| knome | heh | 18:58 |
| knome | "looks terrible" == "looks great" ok | 18:58 |
| elfy | well that appears to be the initial autopilot question answered then | 18:58 |
| Unit193 | Missed "on here", the i915 driver hates me on raring. I'd recommend changing the wording to something like "Click here for more, bigger, screenshots!" | 18:59 |
| knome | i'm about to change that completely! | 18:59 |
| knome | i mean, i have grand plans for it | 18:59 |
| knome | let's see about those now then. :) | 19:00 |
| Unit193 | Ah, alrighty-o. I'm for more too, as on ML. | 19:01 |
| knome | Unit193, linky-link better now? | 19:36 |
| Unit193 | And it works too! Sure, I liked it below better, but that's just me, I'll get used to this. | 19:37 |
| knome | well just trying things out | 19:37 |
| knome | Unit193, what about that? | 19:43 |
| Unit193 | I like that one better, yeah. | 19:45 |
| knome | yeah, cleaner too | 19:45 |
| knome | what do we think about the button icons? | 19:46 |
| knome | those aren't in the new navigation, but do we really need them there? or in the footer? | 19:47 |
| Unit193 | Brings more attention to them, and getting Xubuntu or help I'd think is the main reason for the site. (More or less.) | 19:48 |
| knome | okay | 19:48 |
| knome | will have to look at that then. | 19:48 |
| knome | Unit193, something like that? (just a really quick mockup) | 19:52 |
| Unit193 | Erm, they look "off", like they are sliding off the bottom. | 19:52 |
| knome | just dismiss that part | 19:53 |
| knome | i'll make them look better to if that works if this is generally a good direction | 19:53 |
| knome | *to see | 19:53 |
| Unit193 | I don't know, up there it looks a bit odd, but could just be the placement, or actually size. | 19:54 |
| knome | Unit193, that placement looks better? | 19:55 |
| Unit193 | Yep, but do you think smaller is better? (I'm not the webdesigner!) | 19:58 |
| knome | i'm thinking i'd drop the circle shape | 19:58 |
| knome | just too lazy to do that if that doesn't look like a good direction | 19:58 |
| knome | but let's see | 19:58 |
| knome | Unit193, like that? | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | Yes, get involved being the best as it is centered on the image. | 20:00 |
| knome | mmh, yeah, why not | 20:01 |
| knome | the problem with those is that if we want to add menu items, we will need new icons and a change in code | 20:02 |
| Unit193 | Well of course you can try something more reasonable. | 20:02 |
| knome | there's nothing that comes with images that's any more reasonable :) | 20:02 |
| knome | that's the issue | 20:03 |
| lderan | i like the images in the little circles myself | 20:05 |
| knome | now? | 20:13 |
| Unit193 | Yes. | 20:14 |
| knome | and now the bg colors should be as designed as well | 20:15 |
| knome | the get involved -image needs work though | 20:15 |
| knome | better? | 20:17 |
| lderan | yeah | 20:22 |
| knome | ...aaand once more | 20:24 |
| Unit193 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/saucy/revision/42 Hrm, I know we don't ship it, but this mean we're cutting out all info about apt-offline-gui? | 20:44 |
| skellat | Qt-based, violates strategy document | 20:45 |
| knome | Unit193, yeah. | 20:45 |
| Unit193 | Ehhh... | 20:45 |
| knome | Unit193, oi? | 20:49 |
| knome | played a bit with the links on the frontpage | 20:55 |
| knome | (left side) | 20:55 |
| knome | i think that's pretty nice now | 20:55 |
| knome | we should incorporate about eg. "read more..." with the tour anyway | 20:55 |
| skellat | I sync'ed the 1.3 version of apt-offline from sid to my PPA. It looks like apt-offline-gui is slowly being deprecated. | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | Makeing screenshots small? ;) | 20:56 |
| knome | how's that? | 21:03 |
| elfy | knome: if there's a bug for a testcase and I'm going to do it - how can I mark it in some way so that others know I'm doing it? | 21:17 |
| elfy | without having to leave pointless comments in the bug | 21:17 |
| knome | elfy, i imagine setting yourself as the assignee :) | 21:18 |
| elfy | ok - simple as that is it :) | 21:18 |
| knome | yup | 21:18 |
| elfy | all new to me :) | 21:18 |
| elfy | done 2 now | 21:20 |
| elfy | /happy | 21:20 |
| knome | :) | 21:20 |
| elfy | I'm not going to worry about autopilot until I can get a definitive on whether it will even work in Xubuntu | 21:21 |
| Noskcaj | ditto ^ | 21:30 |
| knome | Noskcaj, why don't you find out if it does? | 21:32 |
| elfy | Noskcaj: so can I leave you to check into findinf out if it works for us? | 21:32 |
| elfy | oh d'oh ...snap | 21:33 |
| knome | :) | 21:33 |
| elfy | knome: we going to be having first meeting soon? | 21:38 |
| knome | yeah, i should announce it | 21:38 |
| knome | this or next weeks thu | 21:38 |
| knome | not sure about my own schedule for this weeks thu yet, so can't announce just yet | 21:39 |
| elfy | k | 21:39 |
| knome | feel free to do some unofficial impromptu meetings :) | 21:39 |
| elfy | so we know sort of about where I will be - this thursday I'm not working - next thursday I will be, rinse and repeat | 21:39 |
| knome | did you look at the new website staging stuff yet ? :) | 21:40 |
| knome | aha, is friday this week any better? | 21:40 |
| knome | around 15 utcish | 21:40 |
| elfy | and if it's at the same sort of time as last one's I attended then I can't ever attend if I'm working | 21:40 |
| knome | because that's another possibility | 21:40 |
| knome | aha | 21:40 |
| knome | how much later should we push that? | 21:40 |
| knome | 17utc? | 21:40 |
| elfy | this friday would be ok - I work week on week off | 21:41 |
| elfy | very hard to tell - I work until the ill people have their meds :) | 21:41 |
| knome | okay | 21:41 |
| elfy | but in general Thurs/Fri I work till somewhere between 5 and 6 | 21:41 |
| elfy | mmm | 21:41 |
| knome | 5/6 utc? | 21:42 |
| elfy | so that's 1600/1700 UTC at this moment - summer time | 21:42 |
| knome | oki | 21:42 |
| elfy | but as they are usually not every week if we started this week that would work for me | 21:42 |
| knome | yeah | 21:43 |
| knome | i'll take that into consideration | 21:43 |
| knome | i have no problems meeting on even weeks | 21:43 |
| elfy | k | 21:44 |
| elfy | but as you say we can always have improptu ones when necessary | 21:45 |
| knome | most definitely | 21:45 |
| knome | all contributor-to-contributor communication is encouraged | 21:45 |
| knome | and since i'm usualyly around more or less every day... :) | 21:46 |
| elfy | :) | 21:46 |
| elfy | well - twice a month some am I for a week at a time usually :) | 21:46 |
| knome | i think that's a good cadence | 21:49 |
| elfy | yep | 21:49 |
| knome | (see, picking up the buzzwords) | 21:49 |
| elfy | see me just agreeing ... | 21:49 |
| elfy | :) | 21:49 |
| Unit193 | Nice part is doing them in here, much easier to read backlog. | 21:50 |
| elfy | buzzwords ... make elfy go zzzzzz | 21:50 |
| elfy | Unit193: totally agree | 21:50 |
| knome | Unit193, definitely. -devel over -offtopic too ;) | 21:51 |
| knome | brb | 21:51 |
| Unit193 | knome: meetingology isn't in -offtopic. ;) | 21:52 |
| knome | Unit193, sure. but impromptu meetings do not need a bot | 21:54 |
| elfy | just a pot of coffee | 21:55 |
| knome | :D | 21:55 |
| knome | ypup | 21:55 |
| knome | uhm | 21:56 |
| elfy | so why doesn't /away work in irssi then | 21:58 |
| knome | elfy, it does! | 21:59 |
| elfy | nope | 21:59 |
| elfy | do you have to give a reason or just /away | 21:59 |
| knome | a reason | 22:00 |
| knome | see -ot ;) | 22:00 |
| Noskcaj | autopilot advantages: speeds up post-install tests and possibly live session tests, once the ubiquity part is done ISO tests will be a lot faster. Cons: a lot of time to make (both testcases and making autopilot work fully with xubuntu) | 22:01 |
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