[09:24] skellat, i think micahg said anything that's in the xubuntu seed is in the xubuntu packageset [10:06] ochosi: I installed the ppa and the new greybird, it all appeared to work - however at the login screen - very very dark and no way to change session or anything - all I could do was either login as me or guest [10:32] hey elfy [10:32] hi bluesabre :) [10:32] the session controls are in the upper right now :) [10:32] oh right ;) [10:33] wish I'd been told that before :p I'd have checked them out lol [10:33] :D [10:33] as a quick changelog.. [10:33] * elfy doesn't use that install much it is more or less as installed with no music ... [10:33] session and locale are in the system tray [10:34] a clock can be enabled by adding some settings to lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf [10:34] oh right - you want me to check that as well? [10:34] you're welcome to, but you shouldn't have to [10:35] are the symbolic icons and text showing up as the white-like color? [10:35] so what does need checking - login (which I've done) and session and locale [10:35] in the top right? [10:35] yeah [10:36] didn't notice them - login box was DARK - couldn't really read it very well [10:36] couple of minutes and I'll be back [10:40] bluesabre: ok - yes the symbolic icons in the top right are 'white' and readable [10:40] most things should be dark, but the text and icons should all have a nice contrast and be visible [10:41] good [10:41] for what it's worth - I'd 'prefer' to see those top right icons with rounded corners - they look rather stark [10:42] ochosi ^ [10:42] did restart from the icon - the 'selecte'd option ie you want to restart was readable, but the other 'no I don't want to' was again unreadable [10:42] ah [10:42] all looks ok in general and works - but I'd prefer to be able to read the 'unused option's to be more apparent [10:43] the login box itself - can just read username - password box is fine - login button is just readable [10:44] bluesabre: does that help and make sense? [10:44] I think so [10:44] ok :) [10:44] Would you mind installing xserver-xephyr and then running lightdm --test-mode [10:44] you think it helps or you think it makes sense :p [10:44] sigh - more time without music :( [10:45] lol [10:45] if you do the above command you can take a screenshot since it will keep you in your session [10:45] aah cool [10:45] elfy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/ReleaseProcess [10:45] elfy, add things as you feel appropriate! [10:46] ok [10:46] brb - off to boring install again :) [10:51] bluesabre: [10:51] http://imagebin.org/259009 [10:52] thanks! [10:52] ochosi ^^ [10:52] thats a bug forestpiskie, one that ochosi has not been getting :) [10:54] PEBKAC? [10:55] ..? [10:55] "problem exists between keyboard and chair" ? [10:56] I've never heard that one before :D [10:56] bluesabre anything else I can do here? [10:56] that should do it [10:56] Thanks a lot! [10:56] ok :) [11:01] bluesabre: if there's anything else just ask [11:02] sure thing [11:02] knome: and it's pebkacmya :p [11:03] hmmm... :P [11:03] suppose I could have used a vm - just thought it would be a better test with real hardware [11:04] real hardware is always cool [11:05] yea === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [17:14] knome: well, anything in universe should be in the seed [17:14] knome: err...packageset [17:20] errr...anything in universe in the seed should be in the packageset [17:43] micahg, mmh, yeah [17:43] micahg, maybe note that in the wikipage [17:49] which one? [17:50] micahg, let me find that for you [17:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Saucy/EnablingXubuntuDevelopers [17:51] that one [18:51] so, i'm working on xubuntu website improvements [18:52] http://xstaging.lallinaho.fi/ [18:52] how does the new navigation look? [18:52] looks cool [18:57] Hah, fade-through looks terrible on here. :D [18:57] knome: Looks great! [18:58] good [18:58] heh [18:58] "looks terrible" == "looks great" ok [18:58] well that appears to be the initial autopilot question answered then [18:59] Missed "on here", the i915 driver hates me on raring. I'd recommend changing the wording to something like "Click here for more, bigger, screenshots!" [18:59] i'm about to change that completely! [18:59] i mean, i have grand plans for it [19:00] let's see about those now then. :) [19:01] Ah, alrighty-o. I'm for more too, as on ML. [19:36] Unit193, linky-link better now? [19:37] And it works too! Sure, I liked it below better, but that's just me, I'll get used to this. [19:37] well just trying things out [19:43] Unit193, what about that? [19:45] I like that one better, yeah. [19:45] yeah, cleaner too [19:46] what do we think about the button icons? [19:47] those aren't in the new navigation, but do we really need them there? or in the footer? [19:48] Brings more attention to them, and getting Xubuntu or help I'd think is the main reason for the site. (More or less.) [19:48] okay [19:48] will have to look at that then. [19:52] Unit193, something like that? (just a really quick mockup) [19:52] Erm, they look "off", like they are sliding off the bottom. [19:53] just dismiss that part [19:53] i'll make them look better to if that works if this is generally a good direction [19:53] *to see [19:54] I don't know, up there it looks a bit odd, but could just be the placement, or actually size. [19:55] Unit193, that placement looks better? [19:58] Yep, but do you think smaller is better? (I'm not the webdesigner!) [19:58] i'm thinking i'd drop the circle shape [19:58] just too lazy to do that if that doesn't look like a good direction [19:58] but let's see [20:00] Unit193, like that? [20:00] Yes, get involved being the best as it is centered on the image. [20:01] mmh, yeah, why not [20:02] the problem with those is that if we want to add menu items, we will need new icons and a change in code [20:02] Well of course you can try something more reasonable. [20:02] there's nothing that comes with images that's any more reasonable :) [20:03] that's the issue [20:05] i like the images in the little circles myself [20:13] now? [20:14] Yes. [20:15] and now the bg colors should be as designed as well [20:15] the get involved -image needs work though [20:17] better? [20:22] yeah [20:24] ...aaand once more [20:44] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/saucy/revision/42 Hrm, I know we don't ship it, but this mean we're cutting out all info about apt-offline-gui? [20:45] Qt-based, violates strategy document [20:45] Unit193, yeah. [20:45] Ehhh... [20:49] Unit193, oi? [20:55] played a bit with the links on the frontpage [20:55] (left side) [20:55] i think that's pretty nice now [20:55] we should incorporate about eg. "read more..." with the tour anyway [20:56] I sync'ed the 1.3 version of apt-offline from sid to my PPA. It looks like apt-offline-gui is slowly being deprecated. [20:56] Makeing screenshots small? ;) [21:03] how's that? [21:17] knome: if there's a bug for a testcase and I'm going to do it - how can I mark it in some way so that others know I'm doing it? [21:17] without having to leave pointless comments in the bug [21:18] elfy, i imagine setting yourself as the assignee :) [21:18] ok - simple as that is it :) [21:18] yup [21:18] all new to me :) [21:20] done 2 now [21:20] /happy [21:20] :) [21:21] I'm not going to worry about autopilot until I can get a definitive on whether it will even work in Xubuntu [21:30] ditto ^ [21:32] Noskcaj, why don't you find out if it does? [21:32] Noskcaj: so can I leave you to check into findinf out if it works for us? [21:33] oh d'oh ...snap [21:33] :) [21:38] knome: we going to be having first meeting soon? [21:38] yeah, i should announce it [21:38] this or next weeks thu [21:39] not sure about my own schedule for this weeks thu yet, so can't announce just yet [21:39] k [21:39] feel free to do some unofficial impromptu meetings :) [21:39] so we know sort of about where I will be - this thursday I'm not working - next thursday I will be, rinse and repeat [21:40] did you look at the new website staging stuff yet ? :) [21:40] aha, is friday this week any better? [21:40] around 15 utcish [21:40] and if it's at the same sort of time as last one's I attended then I can't ever attend if I'm working [21:40] because that's another possibility [21:40] aha [21:40] how much later should we push that? [21:40] 17utc? [21:41] this friday would be ok - I work week on week off [21:41] very hard to tell - I work until the ill people have their meds :) [21:41] okay [21:41] but in general Thurs/Fri I work till somewhere between 5 and 6 [21:41] mmm [21:42] 5/6 utc? [21:42] so that's 1600/1700 UTC at this moment - summer time [21:42] oki [21:42] but as they are usually not every week if we started this week that would work for me [21:43] yeah [21:43] i'll take that into consideration [21:43] i have no problems meeting on even weeks [21:44] k [21:45] but as you say we can always have improptu ones when necessary [21:45] most definitely [21:45] all contributor-to-contributor communication is encouraged [21:46] and since i'm usualyly around more or less every day... :) [21:46] :) [21:46] well - twice a month some am I for a week at a time usually :) [21:49] i think that's a good cadence [21:49] yep [21:49] (see, picking up the buzzwords) [21:49] see me just agreeing ... [21:49] :) [21:50] Nice part is doing them in here, much easier to read backlog. [21:50] buzzwords ... make elfy go zzzzzz [21:50] Unit193: totally agree [21:51] Unit193, definitely. -devel over -offtopic too ;) [21:51] brb [21:52] knome: meetingology isn't in -offtopic. ;) [21:54] Unit193, sure. but impromptu meetings do not need a bot [21:55] just a pot of coffee [21:55] :D [21:55] ypup [21:56] uhm [21:58] so why doesn't /away work in irssi then [21:59] elfy, it does! [21:59] nope [21:59] do you have to give a reason or just /away [22:00] a reason [22:00] see -ot ;) [22:01] autopilot advantages: speeds up post-install tests and possibly live session tests, once the ubiquity part is done ISO tests will be a lot faster. Cons: a lot of time to make (both testcases and making autopilot work fully with xubuntu)