[02:02]  * ahoneybun loves pizza
[02:04] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: thanks for adding me back on G+
[02:05] <shadeslayer> haha
[02:05] <shadeslayer> who doesn't love pizza
[02:05] <ahoneybun> valorie: ping?
[03:08] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: thanks for adding me back on G+
[03:10] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: uhm, okay?
[03:11] <shadeslayer> you already thanked me once :P
[03:11] <ahoneybun> did not know if you got it
[03:11] <ahoneybun> lol
[03:12] <shadeslayer> ofcourse I did
[03:14] <ahoneybun> ok
[03:33] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: can you give me feedback on the Docs?
[04:01] <valorie> back
[04:01] <valorie> whassup?
[04:01] <ahoneybun> nm
[04:02] <valorie> 14 hours until GSoC letters are sent out
[04:02] <ahoneybun> oh
[04:02] <valorie> poor students have to wait to find out
[04:02] <valorie> did you apply?
[04:02] <ahoneybun> for?
[04:03] <valorie> google summer of code
[04:03] <ahoneybun> no I can't code
[04:04] <valorie> ok
[04:04] <ahoneybun> LibreOffice is in there
[04:04] <ahoneybun> thats great
[04:07] <ahoneybun> valorie: I started on the Getting Involved page
[04:07] <valorie> oh very good
[04:07] <valorie> you are just on fire!
[04:08] <ahoneybun> lol I guess
[04:08] <ahoneybun> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/GettingInvolved
[04:09] <valorie> actually 3 ways: the forums are all good too
[04:10] <valorie> of course people have 3 choices of forum.....
[04:10] <ahoneybun> yea It can be improved
[04:11] <valorie> some folks are forum users, almost exclusively
[04:11] <valorie> I think we would use them more if we had a bot that reported new posts and replies in the channels
[04:12] <valorie> to all 3 forums, ideally
[04:12] <valorie> probably to #kubuntu, not here
[04:12] <ScottK> valorie: Unlikely.  When claydoh_ has tried to do that sort of thing even manually, with hand holding, it hasn't been very successful.
[04:12] <valorie> would help the forums too
[04:12] <ScottK> Maybe there.
[04:13] <valorie> if it got too noisy, we could make a #kubuntu-forums channel
[04:13] <valorie> whatever the KDE sysadmins use, it's really useful
[04:14] <ahoneybun> are we talking about the Internet forums
[04:14] <valorie> I don't like forums much, but when I see an Amarok question I can answer, for instance, I can pop right over and do it
[04:15] <valorie> ahoneybun: we have the Ubuntu forums/Kub. section, Kubuntuforum and the KDE Kubuntu section (I think)
[04:15] <valorie> not sure about the third possibility
[04:15] <valorie> not sure what you mean by Internet forum
[04:16] <ahoneybun> forums in general
[04:16] <valorie> some call them message boards, or even billboards
[04:16] <ahoneybun> I mean is there a kub section in the ubuntu forums
[04:16] <valorie> yes
[04:17] <ahoneybun> I don't see it, I see [kubuntu] tags
[04:17] <valorie> yeah, it's a bit split up
[04:19] <ahoneybun> I don't see the section so I just put the links for the ubuntu forums and the kubuntuforums
[04:20] <valorie> ok
[04:20] <valorie> yeah, I thought I remembered a specific kub section, but i don't see anything in the general categories
[04:22] <valorie> nothing in the kde forums that is specific to kub either
[04:22] <ahoneybun> I just checked that
[04:23] <ahoneybun> darkwing did not get to update the trello so I added what I thought we would need
[04:23] <ahoneybun> https://trello.com/board/kubuntu-docs-saucy-salamander/518d39bc9433cf5507000173
[04:26] <ahoneybun> I'm thinking I should remove the develop part
[04:27] <valorie> what develop part?
[04:28] <ahoneybun> in the trello 
[04:28] <ahoneybun> I put there
[04:44] <ahoneybun> I also added the some more parts to the Basic page
[05:13] <ahoneybun> valorie: any news about the video chats on YouTube?
[05:14] <valorie> not that I know of
[05:14] <valorie> I imagine darkwing is pretty busy with his kids right now
[05:14] <valorie> we'll get it scheduled soon enough
[05:18] <ahoneybun> yea I know, I hope he is having fun
[05:29] <ahoneybun> valorie: you busy?
[05:30] <valorie> sorta, what's up?
[05:30] <ahoneybun> valorie: just wanted more input about the Doc work so far,
[05:31] <valorie> I think we are doing great
[05:31] <valorie> and really, I would say they are better than they have ever been before
[05:32] <valorie> I think we can still do a bit more though
[05:32] <valorie> and make them even more clear and understandable to the beginner
[05:32] <valorie> soon we should find some people to read them who know nothing about kubuntu
[05:32] <valorie> and get their feedback
[05:33] <ahoneybun> 98% of it is from the original docs
[05:33] <ahoneybun> just it looks good in the wiki
[05:34] <ahoneybun> thats what I'm saying I could use some guide on the format more
[05:35] <valorie> let's wait for the docmaster to show up again
[05:36] <valorie> I'm pretty sure he has some ideas on format, having dealt with both docbook and wiki for longer than both of us put together
[05:38] <ahoneybun> darkwing?
[05:38] <valorie> yup
[05:38] <valorie> and maybe jjesse will chime in too
[05:38] <valorie> he's maybe the grand docmaster
[05:38] <valorie> :-)
[05:39] <ahoneybun> is it too early to try for membership?
[05:39] <ahoneybun> lol
[05:39] <ahoneybun> grand master
[05:40] <valorie> 6 months of contribution
[05:40] <valorie> so, document your contributions
[05:40] <valorie> :-)
[05:41] <ahoneybun> the page says 2
[05:41] <ahoneybun> I'm writing it on my page
[05:46] <ahoneybun> the membership page says 2 months min
[05:48] <valorie> cool!
[05:48] <ahoneybun> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Membership
[05:50] <ahoneybun> plus that Kubuntu Meeting page has not been updated since last year
[05:52] <valorie> I think we've had some new members (not sure though) but they didn't do all the steps
[05:53] <ahoneybun> oh
[05:55] <valorie> some people are really uncomfortable editing a wiki page
[05:55] <valorie> not sure why
[05:55] <ahoneybun> I was trying to go though the right channels 
[05:55] <ahoneybun> I think its easy
[05:55] <ahoneybun> it's
[05:55] <valorie> me too
[05:56] <valorie> but i've tried helping some folks edit wikis (various ones, it isn't the software) and they just Do Not Want To
[05:56] <ahoneybun> I'm trying anyway lol
[05:57] <ahoneybun> oh weird
[05:59] <ahoneybun> I can tell you I'm getting that membership!
[05:59] <soee> good morning
[06:00] <ahoneybun> soee: good morning
[06:01] <valorie> ahoneybun: you'll have my vote, once you pass the Sekrit Test
[06:01] <valorie> :-)
[06:01] <ahoneybun> the what?
[06:02] <valorie> oops, sekrit!
[06:02] <ahoneybun> what is that?
[06:02] <valorie> ::evil laugh::
[06:02] <soee> you have to kiss valorie :)
[06:02] <ahoneybun> 0.o
[06:02] <soee> and she will decide how it was ;)
[06:03] <valorie> rofl
[06:03] <ahoneybun> soee: weirdo lol
[06:03] <ahoneybun> valorie: what is sekrit
[06:03] <soee> nono lol is kded4 proces on my laptop
[06:03] <valorie> I'm just joking around
[06:03] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[06:04] <ahoneybun> hard to tell with text
[06:04] <valorie> seriously, when you ask for my recommendation, I'll gladly add it to your page
[06:05] <ahoneybun> valorie: testimonial you mean>
[06:05] <ahoneybun> ?
[06:05] <valorie> right
[06:05] <valorie> whatever they call it there
[06:05] <ahoneybun> that would look great
[06:07] <ahoneybun> anyway
[06:08] <ahoneybun> I'm off for the morning
[06:08] <valorie> niters, ahoneybun
[06:08] <valorie> sweet dreams
[06:09] <ahoneybun> valorie: same to you
[10:22] <Riddell> good morning
[10:30] <Riddell> what needs done to get 4.10.3 into raring-updates?  just file a SRU and copy the packages from PPA to -proposed?
[10:33] <yofel> SRU is done
[10:33] <yofel> that's filed before upload
[10:33] <yofel> just just need to upload the packages and l10n
[10:34] <yofel> for l10n maybe don't upload the serbian translations (see packagers)
[10:34] <yofel> *you just need to...
[11:21] <apachelogger> jussi: channels' ACLs still need updating :P
[11:36] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [982889] X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/982889 (by Tomas Vanderka)
[11:56] <BluesKaj> HI all
[12:09] <soee> what does kded4 proccess do /
[12:16] <Riddell> see system settings kded
[12:39] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [982889] X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/982889 (by Tomas Vanderka)
[12:44]  * Peace- had such a great time with my kubuntu on this i7
[12:47] <Riddell> hi seele 
[12:47] <seele> anyone available for a 30-45 minute interview about their kde notifications? it will earn a $5 donation to the kde e.v.
[12:47] <seele> Riddell: heya :)
[12:48]  * Riddell could do although this internet is a bit unreliable
[12:48] <seele> up to you, i'd appreciate it if you weren't too busy 
[12:48] <Riddell> Peace-: i7 being a fancy intel laptop?
[12:49] <Riddell> seele: I'm not busy
[12:53] <Peace-> Riddell: do you want to know the brand ?
[13:02]  * Peace- has used windows 8 for 1 day , after that only  kubuntu, he  feels safe secure and and a normal world
[13:08] <BluesKaj> I'm somewhat disappointed with the poorly developed vpn client/server in kde , the settings are difficult to interpret for networking laymen 
[13:09] <Riddell> BluesKaj: we'll be getting a new network applet soon
[13:10] <BluesKaj> and the manuals read like they were written by geeks who would describe a pencil as a writing tool used by ppl without a computer :)
[13:11] <BluesKaj> insider lingo 
[13:12] <BluesKaj> that's my rant for today 
[14:09] <Riddell> ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/1176358
[14:18] <seele> thanks to Riddell who was interviewed about his KDE notifications and earned $5 donation to the KDE e.v.
[14:18] <seele> anyone available for a 30-45 minute interview about their kde notifications? it will earn a $5 donation to the kde e.v.
[14:19] <genii-around> If I had 30-45 uninterrupted minutes from work I would, but unfortunately I don't.
[14:20] <genii-around> seele: Have you asked in #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[14:20] <seele> i didnt know #kubutnu-offtopic existed
[14:20] <seele> thanks
[14:21] <genii-around> Although I made a typo on the name, but yes it exists
[15:51] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[15:52] <Riddell> hi lordievader 
[15:52] <lordievader> Hey Riddell, how are you?
[15:53] <Riddell> I'm awesome thanks :)
[15:54] <lordievader> Good to hear :)
[16:03] <Darkwing> Afternoon
[16:04] <lordievader> Hey Darkwing, how are you?
[16:05] <Darkwing> lordievader: My kids arrived on Saturday. I'm pretty happy right about now. :)
[16:05] <Riddell> it's Count Duckula!  the Twilight vampire of the 1980s
[16:05] <lordievader> :)
[16:05]  * Darkwing snickers
[16:07] <ahoneybun> Darkwing: ping pong
[16:08] <Darkwing> ahoneybun: pong
[16:08] <ahoneybun> ;)
[16:10] <ahoneybun> you check out trello?
[16:10] <Darkwing> Not really, this is the fist time I've sat at my computer since my kids arrived on Sat
[16:10] <ahoneybun> yea
[16:12] <ahoneybun> I did not think so
[16:12] <ahoneybun> I think a bit of progress was made
[16:13] <ahoneybun> bbl 
[16:13] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Will write a short guide to Chromium this evening.
[16:18] <Darkwing> Yay for home server maintainance
[16:27] <Darkwing> Riddell: Any plans on backporting the new owncloud updates to the LTS?
[16:28] <Riddell> Darkwing: hmm good question
[16:29] <Darkwing> Because the differences between owncloud 5.0.* and what is in the LTS owncloud 3.* is quite a bit.
[16:29] <Darkwing> although, let me try something.
[16:29] <Riddell> Darkwing: I uploaded packages of 5.0.4 and asked tech board if they could get in
[16:29] <Riddell> haven't got a reply, ScottK said he'd take that as no objections and put some in
[16:29] <Riddell> I said I'd update it to the latest version
[16:29] <Riddell> and I think that's where we left it
[16:30] <Darkwing> 5.0.6 is released I believe.
[16:32] <Riddell> bug 1079150
[16:33]  * Riddell snoozes
[16:33] <Darkwing> huh
[16:39] <yofel> Darkwing: you could get 5 from obs in the meanwhile
[16:40] <Darkwing> yofel: Aye, I was thinking about that.
[16:40] <Darkwing> I did do that but, there was issues with the internal permissions
[16:46] <ScottK> Riddell: I'll try and have a look later today.
[17:28] <ahoneybunn> Hello Darkwing 
[17:38] <ahoneybunn_> valorie: pong
[17:51] <ahoneybun> hey Darkwing
[19:15] <lordievader> ahoneybun: ping
[20:11] <lordievader> ahoneybun: http://paste.kde.org/751796/ Take a look, and let me know if it's okay.
[20:13] <soee> lordievader, when formatting text you should use <strong>text</strong> instead of <b>text</b> :)
[20:13] <lordievader> soee: Wasn't sure what the wiki used, so I used HTML ;)
[20:14] <soee> ah its wiki
[20:14] <soee> then im not sure to :)
[20:14] <lordievader> Hehe
[22:34] <ahoneybunn> hey Darkwing: