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| Mirv_ | morning | 04:07 |
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| mlankhorst | morning! | 04:09 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 05:30 |
| desrt | pitti: thanks for reminding me that it's past my bed time | 05:31 |
| desrt | good night! | 05:31 |
| pitti | heh | 05:31 |
| pitti | desrt: sleep well! | 05:31 |
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| jibel | good morning | 06:59 |
| didrocks | salut jibel, bon week-end? | 06:59 |
| jibel | salut didrocks! très bon w.e. et toi ? | 07:00 |
| didrocks | jibel: pareil! plutôt resté à l'intérieur à cause de la pluie, juste marché 12 kms :/ mais bon… Aujourd'hui grand soleil (le seul jour jusqu'à lundi prochain apparemment) | 07:01 |
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| Mirv | we had some summer cottage preparation work, healthy outside exercise | 07:09 |
| didrocks | Mirv: oh nice, lucky you! I wish summer will finally starts here for more than a day :) | 07:10 |
| didrocks | or at least, spring! | 07:10 |
| Sweetshark | Goood Moin! | 07:35 |
| didrocks | oh, it's a Sweetshark :) | 07:36 |
| * Sweetshark feels much cooler now, having collected the business card of a member of parlament on the weekend ... | 07:37 | |
| Sweetshark | Achievement Unlocked | 07:37 |
| didrocks | :) | 07:38 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: Please tell me I dont have to do this, and that it perfectly fine to upload a still somewhat shaky LibreOffice-4.1.0~beta1 to saucy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1182170/comments/7 | 07:42 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1182170 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice FTBFS in saucy" [High,In progress] | 07:42 |
| Sweetshark | :/ | 07:42 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: mlankhorst: jibel seems to have issues with the nvidia module not loading on saucy, is that known? | 07:55 |
| mlankhorst | log? | 08:01 |
| mlankhorst | and nvidia kernel module, or xorg driver module | 08:01 |
| seb128 | hey desktopers, happy monday | 08:16 |
| didrocks | salut seb128, joyeux lundi! :) | 08:16 |
| mlankhorst | bonjour | 08:16 |
| seb128 | didrocks, lut, à toi aussi ;-) | 08:16 |
| seb128 | mlankhorst, hey | 08:16 |
| jibel | didrocks, mlankhorst bug 1184536 with nvidia compiz starts but not unity | 08:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1184536 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity failed to load with nvidia-current" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184536 | 08:42 |
| didrocks | yeah, so all those Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0". | 08:44 |
| didrocks | this is understing, any idea mlankhorst? | 08:44 |
| mlankhorst | looks like libGL.so is wrong | 08:45 |
| mlankhorst | you're probably using mesa libgl against nvidia somehow | 08:45 |
| mlankhorst | hm weirder, still | 08:48 |
| didrocks | mlankhorst: any way, we can provide more info? | 08:52 |
| mlankhorst | tseliot might know more, what does glxinfo say? | 08:53 |
| didrocks | jibel: ^ | 08:53 |
| * tseliot looking | 08:53 | |
| mlankhorst | it really looks like a wrongly installed nvidia driver to me, though | 08:54 |
| didrocks | Mirv: we should have done Qt today, with this issue on jenkins :p | 08:54 |
| jibel | mlankhorst, tseliot output of glxinfo attached to the report | 08:54 |
| mlankhorst | now that's weird | 08:55 |
| mlankhorst | and if you start compiz in the same way? | 08:55 |
| tseliot | jibel: also what's the output of this command? update-alternatives --display x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf | 08:56 |
| tseliot | err... direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation | 08:57 |
| mlankhorst | tseliot: yeah I have no idea what's going on there | 08:57 |
| tseliot | mlankhorst: doesn't glxinfo call glXQueryExtension? | 08:59 |
| mlankhorst | it should | 09:01 |
| mlankhorst | I have no idea how the errors from the gnome-session can be from the same configuration.. | 09:01 |
| jibel | tseliot, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1184536/+attachment/3687714/+files/update-alternatives.log | 09:01 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1184536 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity failed to load with nvidia-current" [Undecided,New] | 09:01 |
| tseliot | jibel: yes, it looks fine, as the rest. I don't think it depends on the nvidia package | 09:02 |
| mlankhorst | jibel: just to be sure, starting unity manually fails too? | 09:02 |
| jibel | mlankhorst, it fails too | 09:05 |
| mlankhorst | ldd /usr/lib/compiz/libunityshell.so |grep GL ? | 09:05 |
| jibel | mlankhorst, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5706210/ | 09:07 |
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| mlankhorst | looks sane enough | 09:08 |
| mlankhorst | i have no idea in what funny way you messed up your system :/ | 09:08 |
| jibel | mlankhorst, I don't know either, I'm just running a standard saucy and apt-get install nvidia-current :) | 09:09 |
| tseliot | jibel: was it a clean installation of Saucy? | 09:10 |
| jibel | tseliot, upgraded from raring but nothing fancy | 09:10 |
| tseliot | hmm... | 09:11 |
| tseliot | jibel: one last thing: what's the output of ps aux | grep X | 09:13 |
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| jibel | tseliot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5706215/ | 09:13 |
| tseliot | jibel: it is weird. Can you reproduce it across reboots? | 09:15 |
| tseliot | jibel: also, what's the output of "dkms status" | 09:16 |
| jibel | tseliot, I did not count how many reboots since this morning, and it fails reliably :) output of dkms http://paste.ubuntu.com/5706223/ | 09:17 |
| tseliot | jibel: and what happens if you uninstall nvidia? Does compiz work properly? | 09:18 |
| Mirv | didrocks: yes, although there is always enough Qt stuff for me to do :) | 09:19 |
| tseliot | mlankhorst: I'm wondering if something changed in Xlib and maybe compiz needs to be rebuilt against it | 09:20 |
| Mirv | it's good that saucy Qt is about set up now, for anything that builds against it | 09:20 |
| didrocks | Mirv: ok, keep me posted if you need to upgrade anything to saucy, let's use that downtime in a profitable way :) | 09:20 |
| Mirv | didrocks: I will, currently looking at some precise/quantal Qt updates | 09:20 |
| mlankhorst | tseliot: I have no idea, sounds weird if that was the case | 09:20 |
| tseliot | very | 09:20 |
| tseliot | jibel: and another thing you can check is if running a guest session works | 09:24 |
| mitya57 | Sweetshark: when you asked your question seb128 was not here yet, please ask it again | 09:27 |
| * mitya57 wants fixed libreoffice because it currently blocks poppler transition | 09:27 | |
| jibel | tseliot, ah, a guest session works fine | 09:34 |
| tseliot | jibel: so I guess something wrong must have happened to your compiz settings. Something like this should help: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ | 09:35 |
| tseliot | jibel: log in with your username this time | 09:35 |
| seb128 | mitya57, xnox was working on making libreoffice build on saucy's toolchain | 09:39 |
| mitya57 | seb128: did you read Sweetshark's last comments on bug 1182170? | 09:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1182170 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice FTBFS in saucy" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1182170 | 09:40 |
| seb128 | mitya57, no, I didn't even know about that bug | 09:40 |
| mitya57 | actually the question was: <Sweetshark> seb128: Please tell me I dont have to do this, and that it perfectly fine to upload a still somewhat shaky LibreOffice-4.1.0~beta1 to saucy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1182170/comments/7 | 09:41 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1182170 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice FTBFS in saucy" [High,In progress] | 09:41 |
| seb128 | mitya57, well, it seems like Sweetshark is on it | 09:42 |
| jibel | tseliot, a reset fixed it, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5706270/ this is the diff of the dconf settings before and after the reset if it helps | 09:43 |
| jibel | didrocks, ^ | 09:43 |
| mitya57 | yes, but either he should upload 4.1 beta or we won't see the fix any time soon :) | 09:43 |
| tseliot | I'm no expert in compiz settings, hopefully Didier will shed light on it | 09:44 |
| jibel | tseliot, thanks for your help | 09:45 |
| tseliot | jibel: np | 09:45 |
| didrocks | jibel: weird, that you have ccp, I'll try to reproduce the upgrade | 09:48 |
| didrocks | seems some plugins didn't stick from the upgrade | 09:48 |
| didrocks | (some missing plugins, the most noticeable being the opengl one) | 09:49 |
| Sweetshark | 09:42 < Sweetshark> seb128: Please tell me I dont have to do this, and that it perfectly fine to upload a still somewhat shaky LibreOffice-4.1.0~beta1 to saucy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1182170/comments/7 | 10:00 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1182170 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice FTBFS in saucy" [High,In progress] | 10:00 |
| Sweetshark | :/ | 10:00 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, your call ... define "shaky libreoffice"? | 10:00 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, but uploading 4.1.0 beta1 wfm | 10:01 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: well, as a beta it hasnt seen too much testing (Its only 4 days old and has so far only seen testing by those who are nuts enough to try daily builds of libreoffice ;) ) | 10:03 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, are libreoffice betas usually stable enough to get work done? or do they segfault every 5 minutes when you are trying to edit documents? | 10:08 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: I wouldnt exclude the possibility of the second, at least for beta1. beta2 is usually better. | 10:10 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, seems like it would be better to keep beta1 in a ppa then? | 10:10 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: So, no, I dont really feel comfortable dumping beta1 on the archive right now. I just dont like to bisect 10000 commits :/. | 10:11 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, what are you looking for in those 10000 commits? a fix for the failing test? | 10:11 |
| mlankhorst | Sweetshark: only 14 iterations! | 10:11 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, how long does a build take on your box? you said it's 16 build at max | 10:11 |
| seb128 | seems like you just need to let your box work for a day for that? | 10:12 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: Yep, any first 4.1/saucy upload should spend some time in a PPA. After all, our build also might be somewhat different from the upstream one (e.g. trouble introduced by our gcc/boost/whatever ...) | 10:12 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: the builds arent what is annoying -- 4.0 doesnt build unpatched against our saucy gcc/boost, so I have to patch/backport the build fixes on each step .... | 10:14 |
| seb128 | oh, "fun" | 10:15 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, what is failing, a test? can't you just disable that test until we get 4.1 beta 2 ? | 10:15 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: yep, that would work. | 10:17 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, then what about doing that? | 10:17 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: In seems like the lazy thing to do, but really is probably the right thing to do indeed. | 10:18 |
| * Sweetshark checks how far beta2 is off. | 10:19 | |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, well, "lazy" ... there are only so many hours in a day, that issue doesn't seem worth spending days on | 10:19 |
| Sweetshark | beta2 is June, 3rd-9th. Seems reasonable to go directly for that. | 10:20 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: Have I told you recently that I love you? ;) | 10:21 |
| seb128 | haha | 10:21 |
| pitti | nous aimons tous seb128 ! | 10:42 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 10:42 | |
| * pitti te donne une accolade en retour | 10:43 | |
| pitti | seb128: ça va ? | 10:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, oui, ça va bien, il fait beau aujourd'hui ! | 10:44 |
| seb128 | et toi ? | 10:44 |
| pitti | je me sense comme hiver à nouveau | 10:44 |
| pitti | beacoup de pluie tout le week-end | 10:44 |
| pitti | et 6 °C | 10:45 |
| seb128 | :-( | 10:45 |
| seb128 | ici il a fait beau samedi | 10:45 |
| seb128 | 15°C et du soleil | 10:45 |
| pitti | je le veux aussi ! | 10:45 |
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| jbicha | seb128: vala-0.20 will be default for saucy right? | 12:35 |
| seb128 | jbicha, not decided, 0.18 is still default for the moment, why? | 12:35 |
| seb128 | we need to test build the unity lenses with 0.20 and check they are still working before looking at changing | 12:35 |
| jbicha | I was just curious since Debian dropped 0.18 and .20 is default there | 12:36 |
| seb128 | ok, I see no reason to not change if everything is working fine | 12:37 |
| seb128 | we just need to test rebuild what is on the CD | 12:37 |
| jbicha | by the way it looks like gnome-shell 3.6 doesn't really work with gtk 3.8 | 12:39 |
| seb128 | hum, nobody tested that during all the time we were preparing gtk 3.8? what is the issue? | 12:39 |
| jbicha | darkxst said "it's getting stuck trying to read the mouse pointer position" | 12:41 |
| jbicha | clicks aren't working and it very quickly gets too bogged down to do anything | 12:41 |
| seb128 | what is needed to update gnome-shell to 3.8? | 12:42 |
| jbicha | gnome-desktop3 which didn't look like too bad of a transition except that g-s-d will need some work | 12:43 |
| jbicha | https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/log/?qt=grep&q=gnome-desktop | 12:43 |
| seb128 | no g-s-d/g-c-c | 12:43 |
| seb128 | e.g for input methods | 12:43 |
| jbicha | right, I meant backporting several commits (so that g-s-d can rebuild) and checking to make sure things still work | 12:44 |
| jbicha | we'll also need gsettings-desktop-schemas but we reverted the 2 commits that drop schemas we're still using | 12:45 |
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| pitti | seb128: do we already have some plan to update to g-s-d 3.8?} | 15:24 |
| pitti | seb128: 3.6's power plugin doesn't work all that well with current logind (bug 1180513) | 15:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1180513 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "lid close actions are ignored laptop always suspends" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1180513 | 15:24 |
| pitti | I can backport the necessary changes, but want to avoid effort if we are going to update to 3.8 anyway | 15:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, g-s-d/g-c-c are a bit tricky due to input methods/ibus and fallback mode drop in 3.8 | 15:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, we will eventually do it, but focus is on the phone and I'm not sure how much time we can spend sorting out g-s-d/g-c-c updates this cycle | 15:53 |
| pitti | seb128: ack, thanks | 15:58 |
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| jbicha | software-center is pretty fragile here, by just clicking around I can get it to crash and it takes X down with it | 16:22 |
| desrt | jbicha: sounds like X is fragile, rather | 16:32 |
| seb128 | jbicha, xorg going down is an xorg issue, you should report a bug with your Xorg.log | 16:32 |
| ogra_ | just use Mir :P | 16:33 |
| desrt | ;) | 16:33 |
| * didrocks waves good evening | 16:34 | |
| desrt | didrocks: ciao! | 16:34 |
| didrocks | desrt: see you tomorrow! | 16:34 |
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