[00:40] <ubuntunoob> hello everyone
[00:41] <ubuntunoob> is posible to instal the lates gnome shell on this distro?
[00:43] <ubuntunoob> anyone?
[00:43] <ubuntunoob> hello
[00:43] <tommie-lie> use the gnome3 ppa
[00:43] <tommie-lie> it's on 3.8
[00:45] <ubuntunoob> tankyou
[00:53] <darkxst> jbicha, have you tried gnome-shell 3.6 on saucy since gtk landed?
[00:55] <jbicha> darkxst: yes this weekend
[00:55] <jbicha> it's very broken, right?
[00:56] <darkxst> jbicha, yes very broken
[00:57] <jbicha> I guess bug 1184132 is one factor but I couldn't click or enter text in gdm
[00:57] <ubot5> bug 1184132 in Gnome Virtual Terminal Emulator "Version 1:0.34.5-1ubuntu1 breaks GDM" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184132
[00:57] <jbicha> and even using lightdm, gnome-shell was so slow as to be nearly useless so I've just been using Unity on LightDM the past 2 days
[00:58] <darkxst> jbicha, that is because its getting stuck trying to read the mouse pointer position ;(
[00:58] <jbicha> I guess we never tested gnome-shell 3.6 with gtk 3.8; it was just gnome-shell 3.8 with gtk 3.6 that was tested
[01:00] <jbicha> no, not that either
[01:01] <jbicha> did you have a fix in mind or were you just going to wait for gnome-shell 3.8?
[01:02] <jbicha> I guess we're blocked on gsettings-desktop-schemas and gnome-desktop3
[01:06] <darkxst> yeh, probably not worth fixing really, so best to get 3.8 in
[01:08] <jbicha> I'll look at the schemas, but I'm hesitant about gnome-desktop3 because of gnome-settings-daemon like I mentioned in the 3.8 blueprint
[01:11] <darkxst> right, g-c-c is probably affected as well
[01:15] <darkxst> actually not, that was 3.9 I was thinking of for g-c-c
[01:35] <darkxst> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=696035
[01:35] <ubot5> Gnome bug 696035 in general "clutter 1.14 hangs gnome-shell 3.6.x from starting up" [Critical,Unconfirmed]
[02:41] <jbicha> ok I have a branch at https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu/saucy/gsettings-desktop-schemas/update-to-3-8/ but let's wait for gnome-desktop3 first to avoid http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=701619
[02:41] <ubot5> Debian bug 701619 in gsettings-desktop-schemas "gsettings-desktop-schemas: Updating gnome-themes-standard to 3.7.90 broke switching windows in gnome-shell 3.6" [Normal,Fixed]
[07:18] <IdleOne> Could someone tell me what I use to install nvidia drivers? I was expecting to find something like jockey-gtk
[07:18] <darkxst> IdleOne, it was moved into "software and updates"
[07:18] <IdleOne> ah, thank you
[07:20] <IdleOne> just installed after having been using kubuntu for the past 1.5 years.
[07:20] <IdleOne> like the look so far :)
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[09:24] <meet_> will 13.10 include gnome 3.8 by default?
[09:28] <darkxst> meet_, yes
[09:35] <meet_> darkxst: is 3.8 as stable as 3.6? should I upgrade?
[09:35] <darkxst> 3.8 is not in 13.10 yet, but you can get it from gnome3 ppa
[09:36] <darkxst> it is atleast as stable as 3.6
[09:38] <DarkEra> expect the nm-applet to crash after loading of the desktop. Doesn't happen always though
[09:38] <meet_> thanks..
[09:40] <darkxst> DarkEra, you are using unity?
[09:41] <meet_> no..gnome3.6
[09:41] <DarkEra> darkxst, i use ubuntu gnome 13.04 with the gnome ppa added, so upgraded to 3.8
[09:42] <DarkEra> used*
[09:42] <darkxst> DarkEra, but gnome-shell doesnt use nm-applet
[09:42] <meet_> btw the last time I tried gnome 3.8 it did not have clocks in it. Has clocks been removed?
[09:43] <darkxst> gnome-clocks is on the ppa
[09:43] <darkxst> but you probably need to install it
[09:44] <DarkEra> it doesn't? Must be something else then what's network related
[09:45] <darkxst> DarkEra, it talks directly to network manager, (i.e. doesnt use the applet)
[09:46] <DarkEra> i can't fully understand though why Unity is installed too on a gnome 3 environment, is that about to change in the future?
[09:47] <darkxst> Unity, is not installed when you install with ubuntu GNOME images
[09:47] <DarkEra> well, why is unity in the session menu then
[09:48] <darkxst> you installed it?
[09:48] <DarkEra> no
[09:48] <darkxst> or you started with a normal ubuntu install?
[09:49] <darkxst> or something else you installed pulled it in, but its definately not there on a clean UG install
[09:49] <DarkEra> nope, installed from a UG 13.04 iso
[09:50] <DarkEra> it came later on with updates
[09:50] <DarkEra> also in 13.10 unity is pulled in when installing gnome from a minimal installation
[09:53] <darkxst> I have not seen that, I am on 13.10
[09:54] <DarkEra> i saw it being pulled in in both cases
[09:55] <darkxst> DarkEra, file a bug
[09:55] <DarkEra> i cant' start 13.10 though
[09:55] <darkxst> 13.10 is a little broken this week, will only work with gnome3 ppa installed
[09:56] <darkxst> the new gtk is in, but that breaks the 3.6 shell
[09:58] <darkxst> DarkEra, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+filebug
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[10:02] <DarkEra> darkxst, sorry, something went wrong here so i disconnected. But yeah we know it's still broken. Hope it's getting fixed soon though :)
[10:05] <DarkEra> darkxst, by the way, if it shouldn't be the case then i ask myself why i was told this was normal that unity got pulled in a few weeks ago
[10:06] <DarkEra> going to file a bug anyway when i have the time
[10:09] <darkxst> well it shouldn't!
[10:12] <DarkEra> i fired up a session from usb stick with 13.04 at the moment and you are right, there's no Unity session on it.
[10:28] <meet_> I upgrade to 3.8 using gnome3 ppa.. but I am not getting all the gnome3.8 features.. like no settings for notification or search .. do I have to add anything more?
[11:46] <phlo> hello
[11:47] <phlo> I got an error once in a while when my screen is locked that I can't unlock, it always show authentication failed, even I am not able to type any password. Does anyone has and idea, why?
[13:15] <erbo> phlo: nope, but it happened to me once last week
[13:26] <phlo> google does also not show something usefull :-(
[14:21] <matanya> hello there! thanks for ubuntu-gnome
[14:22] <matanya> darkxst: congrtz
[14:22] <matanya> jbicha: thanks for your work
[17:32] <FrozenFire> Anyone else encounter the issue of Ubuntu Software Center glitching out on .deb files? When I open a .deb, USC opens, loads the package, then closes.
[17:32] <FrozenFire> The second load, it loads fine
[17:32] <FrozenFire> But first load of any .deb, it closes.
[17:32] <FrozenFire> I'll see about loading it in the terminal to see if there's an error, but wondered if anyone was aware of this being an issue
[19:12] <vooze> After installing 13.04 fine and upgrading to gtk/gnome 3.8 with gnome3 ppa, I some how can't change the mutter theme (gtk is fine) I have tried 3 themes, so its not the themes fault. What could I have done wrong?
[19:41] <matanya> darkxst: are you around?
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[21:13] <darkxst> matanya, hi
[21:13] <matanya> hi darkxst
[21:13] <matanya> just wanted to thank you for your work and wish you luck in your new position
[21:14] <matanya> + rant on some bugs, if you are in the mood :)
[21:15] <darkxst> thanks ;)
[21:15] <darkxst> sure, fire away
[21:16] <matanya> darkxst: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1096901
[21:16] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1096901 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "No Keyboard Layout Indicator in GNOME 3.6.2, Ubuntu 13.04" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[21:17] <matanya> from a survey i did, it is one of the most annoying ones upon multilingual  users
[21:17] <matanya> + i understand it is caused by an old ibus shipped with ubuntu, is that correct?
[21:17] <darkxst> matanya, yes, its also one of the most annoying from our side too, very tricky to fix
[21:18] <darkxst> yes due to old ibus
[21:18] <matanya> i was afraid you would say that
[21:18] <matanya> what ibus version is needed?
[21:18] <darkxst> it should be fixed in 13.10 though
[21:18] <matanya> it is around since 12.10, iirc
[21:21] <darkxst> 1.5.x