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| ppisati | moin | 07:15 |
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| smb | morning | 07:33 |
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| * henrix -> lunch | 11:52 | |
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| ppisati | guys, do you have problem with R and cracking audio? | 12:24 |
| smb | no... though admittedly my workplace still is P | 12:25 |
| ppisati | while i'm playing a song, whenever skype/mumble/whatever emits a 'beep', i get a cracking noise coming out of my speakers | 12:26 |
| ppisati | :( | 12:26 |
| henrix | struggling with mumble | 12:46 |
| henrix | smb: ^^ | 12:46 |
| diwic | ppisati, actually there was just a thread on pulseaudio-discuss labeled "skype sound effects create a buzzing noise" | 13:10 |
| diwic | ppisati, according to thread, Arun thinks I've fixed it in a patch which is in 4.0-rc1 (3.99.1). I'm not so sure, but feel free to try ( ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/pulse-testing ) | 13:13 |
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| ppisati | diwic: pulseaudio 4.0-rc1? | 14:55 |
| diwic | ppisati, or 3.99.* | 14:55 |
| ppisati | diwic: weid | 14:55 |
| ppisati | *weird | 14:55 |
| diwic | ppisati, how come? | 14:55 |
| ppisati | [flag@luxor ~]$ dpkg -l | grep pulseaudio | 14:56 |
| ppisati | ii gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio:amd64 0.10.31-3+nmu1ubuntu2 amd64 GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio | 14:56 |
| ppisati | ii gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:amd64 1.0.6-1ubuntu1 amd64 GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio | 14:56 |
| ppisati | ii pulseaudio 1:3.0-0ubuntu6 amd64 PulseAudio sound server | 14:56 |
| ppisati | ii pulseaudio-module-bluetooth 1:3.0-0ubuntu6 amd64 Bluetooth module for PulseAudio sound server | 14:56 |
| ppisati | ii pulseaudio-module-gconf 1:3.0-0ubuntu6 amd64 GConf module for PulseAudio sound server | 14:56 |
| ppisati | ii pulseaudio-module-x11 1:3.0-0ubuntu6 amd64 X11 module for PulseAudio sound server | 14:56 |
| ppisati | ii pulseaudio-utils 1:3.0-0ubuntu6 amd64 Command line tools for the PulseAudio sound server | 14:56 |
| diwic | ppisati, that's 3.0 | 14:56 |
| ppisati | diwic: ^ | 14:56 |
| diwic | ppisati, we're currently testing 3.99 in ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/pulse-testing | 14:56 |
| ppisati | diwic: ah... actually i read '1.3.0-0' instead of 3.0.0 | 14:57 |
| ppisati | diwic: ok, lemme try the ppa | 14:57 |
| diwic | ppisati, ok, let me know how it goes. | 14:57 |
| * diwic bbl | 14:58 | |
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| ShapeShifter499 | hi | 15:40 |
| ShapeShifter499 | is zcache enabled in the default 13.04 kernel? | 15:41 |
| ShapeShifter499 | I'd like to enable zcache but I'm not finding a lot of information | 15:41 |
| ShapeShifter499 | I'm guessing no one knows about zcache | 16:15 |
| ogra_ | isnt it claching with zram ? | 16:21 |
| ogra_ | we do have a bunch of images that rely on zram being available | 16:21 |
| ogra_ | (so thats definitely enabled in the kernels) | 16:21 |
| ShapeShifter499 | ogra_, after my googling, I added zcache to grub.conf and got this to happen --> http://pastebin.com/p5yF4zRm | 16:26 |
| ShapeShifter499 | ogra_, am I using this wrong? | 16:26 |
| ogra_ | looks ok i think | 16:27 |
| ogra_ | i never used zcache ... but it doesnt seem to error | 16:28 |
| ShapeShifter499 | I would have kept zram only but I ran across a thread that had an idea of using both zram and zcache together | 16:30 |
| ShapeShifter499 | ogra_, that is why I'm not just sticking to using zram only | 16:31 |
| ShapeShifter499 | ogra_, http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/91769 | 16:31 |
| ogra_ | iirc zcache requires that you have swap already | 16:31 |
| ShapeShifter499 | I do | 16:31 |
| ogra_ | that doesnt work in many contexts where we use zram in ubuntu | 16:32 |
| ogra_ | (if you use zram its often because you dont have a disk to use swap on) | 16:32 |
| ShapeShifter499 | I was just trying to speed up things | 16:33 |
| ShapeShifter499 | after enabling zram my system does not hang anymore | 16:33 |
| ogra_ | zram definitely helps with that .... i doubt zcache is any faster than zram | 16:33 |
| ShapeShifter499 | well if what I did with enabling zcache was right, then enabling both didn't seem to hurt or help any from what I see so far | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | it wont change much | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | (if you already use zram) | 16:35 |
| ShapeShifter499 | ogra_, let me get this straight, zram is a faster swap replacement, zcache speeds up the use of swap | 16:35 |
| ogra_ | zram grabs parts of yout ram, compresses it and provides it as swap space | 16:36 |
| ogra_ | if it speeds up your system the actual thing you want is to buy more ram :) | 16:36 |
| ShapeShifter499 | so zram or zcache? or just stay where I have it now, both enabled | 16:36 |
| ShapeShifter499 | ? | 16:37 |
| ogra_ | i dont think it matters much | 16:37 |
| ShapeShifter499 | mmk | 16:37 |
| ogra_ | the conclusion is that yoou dont have enough physical ram | 16:37 |
| ShapeShifter499 | yea | 16:37 |
| ogra_ | if any possible you should get more | 16:37 |
| ShapeShifter499 | can't I have a netbook | 16:37 |
| ShapeShifter499 | 1.5 is my limit | 16:37 |
| ShapeShifter499 | 1.5 gigs | 16:38 |
| ogra_ | zram and zcache will only help a little until you hit the ram barrier again | 16:38 |
| ShapeShifter499 | seems to have solved my issues | 16:38 |
| ogra_ | right, if you keep your habits .... | 16:38 |
| alexbligh | is the init=/bin/sh kernel command line parameter read by upstart or by the kernel? I thought it used to be the kernel. Is there a way to persuade Ubuntu /not/ to run upstart first (I want to run a pivot_root an a debootstrapped initramfs) | 16:38 |
| ogra_ | people tend to open more borwser tabs once it works better | 16:39 |
| ogra_ | and at some point you are back at the point where it gets slow | 16:39 |
| ShapeShifter499 | ogra_, I think I'll be upgrading to a i3 or better laptop by this fall for college | 16:39 |
| ogra_ | alexbligh, it works fine here | 16:40 |
| ShapeShifter499 | ogra_, well thank you for the info and help, google wasn't that much of help | 16:40 |
| alexbligh | ogra_, even if you aren't using an autogenerated initramfs? I mean in the normal case, it must be the initramfs which runs the pivot root then /sbin/init, yes? | 16:41 |
| alexbligh | ie it must be userspace that looks at it | 16:41 |
| ogra_ | as long as /bin/sh exists both, the kernel as well as the initramfs respect init= | 16:41 |
| ogra_ | (teh kernel only comes into play without initrd indeed, but it uses the parameter) | 16:42 |
| alexbligh | Aaah, well I do have an initrd - it contains my full root filing system. Is the kernel ignoring init= because it thinks it's up to my initrd to do that? | 16:43 |
| ogra_ | ti shouldnt | 16:43 |
| alexbligh | I can cat /proc/cmdline and init=/bin/sh appears there | 16:43 |
| ogra_ | it should just hand over the parameter to your userspace | 16:43 |
| alexbligh | but it runs upstart | 16:43 |
| ogra_ | indeed that requires that something in your userspace handles it | 16:43 |
| alexbligh | it does hand the parameter to userspace. I'm wondering if the kernel ALWAYS runs /sbin/init (whatever init= says) if initrd= is specified. | 16:44 |
| ogra_ | it might | 16:46 |
| ogra_ | ubuntus initramfs definitely has a handler for it | 16:46 |
| alexbligh | Yeah I am using debootstrap to make an initramfs of my own | 16:47 |
| ogra_ | i know if you boot without initrd the kernel hands it over properly | 16:47 |
| alexbligh | I want it to run a different program | 16:47 |
| alexbligh | I think I need go read the source | 16:47 |
| ogra_ | that might help :) | 16:47 |
| alexbligh | Aha, rdinit= | 16:48 |
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