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pittiGood morning05:30
DanChapmanpitti morning :)05:42
jibelgood morning06:58
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DanChapmanmorning elfy07:22
elfyhi DanChapman07:23
DanChapmanHow did you get on with autopilot vis on xubuntu? get any apps to work?07:23
elfynone07:24
elfythe bug TheDrums linked to didn't appear to show much hope :)07:25
elfywhen the holiday weekend is done and more people are about I'll dig deeper - at the moment I shall keep manual testcase head on :)07:26
DanChapmandid you try 'autopilot -i Gtk <app_name>'. Oh yeah its a holiday weekend. I totally forgot ive had my head buried in autopilot testcases all weekend :D07:28
elfyyep - tried that :)07:28
elfyat the worst xubuntu will not be any worse off - but it'd be good to be better off if possible, we're trying to lay the groundwork for 14.04 testing now07:29
DanChapmanThere is a couple of people in #ubuntu-autopilot at the moment, throw them a question they should have an answer07:29
elfyoh07:30
DanChapmanpitti was here earlier he might be able to help aswell, not sure if he still around07:30
elfysomeone told me that channel name earlier and then I completely forgot lol07:30
DanChapman:D07:30
elfyI'll pop in there now and chat in a while07:30
elfychildren waking up ...07:31
DanChapman:D let the games begin07:31
elfyyea - teenage girly and her friend - giggling at 2am :|07:32
pittiDanChapman: I'm back now07:38
pittiI haven't really done much with ap-gtk, sorry (that's planned for June/July)07:38
elfyok pitti07:38
elfypitti: so for it to not work well with xubuntu at the moment is expected?07:39
pitticertainly not "expected"07:40
pittiit shouldn't really care about which desktop you are running, it only hooks into GTK07:40
elfyok07:40
elfyI'll install ubuntu in a vm or something so I can see what's actually expected to happen07:42
elfybut as it stands autopilot does nothing much of anything07:42
pittiit works in general07:43
pittithere are existing (shallow) tests for evince, firefox, and the like07:43
elfypitti: I'll have another look a bit later07:44
DanChapmanelfy im just downloading xubuntu will take a look on my machine :D07:45
elfyDanChapman: thanks07:46
elfyat the moment this is more a proof that autopliot is going to be of use to us as a team07:46
elfyit is I suppose 'possible' that it's not liking an upgraded to saucy raring install, but I'm clutching at straws there07:50
DanChapmanjust installing will see what i can figure out for you elfy :D07:57
DanChapmanelfy, its working fine for me in xubuntu, I ran the evince test i created yesterday. Also i could run autopilot launch evince then autopilot vis and i could introspect fine. Did you get autopilot from the ppa?08:20
elfyyea08:20
elfyI'll try from a vm08:20
DanChapmanOk no worries. At least we know now that it works ok in xubuntu :D08:21
elfyyep08:21
elfythanks DanChapman08:21
DanChapmanWell at least ive found out my test needs adapting to work on xubuntu some labels i use are missing in evince on xubuntu08:22
DanChapmanWill have a look at that later :)08:22
elfylol08:22
pittihttps://code.launchpad.net/~jibel/ubuntu/saucy/autopkgtest/allow_OR_in_depends/+merge/16490208:42
pittijibel: ^ about this MP, this merely fixes the syntax check, right?08:43
pittijibel: once f.base['depends'] is set, does the actual processing of the dependencies happen by apt, and already works?08:43
pitti(or pbuilder-satisfydepends, etc.)08:43
pittiapparently it gets passed to pbuilder-satisfydepends08:45
jibelpitti, autopkgtest 2.2.3ubuntu4 added versioned dependencies but disallowed "|", this is what this patch adds08:46
jibelthen it get passed to pbuilder-satisfydepends which supports "|" and versions08:46
pittiack, thanks for confirming08:46
elfyDanChapman: autopilot appears to work ok in a clean install08:57
elfythanks :)08:57
DanChapmanelfy, no problem at all :) enjoy!08:57
elfyI'll try :p08:58
jibelpitti, thanks for the merge09:07
pittijibel: de rien, merci pour le correction !09:08
elfyDanChapman: fixed it :)09:14
elfycheck the sources are correct, update, upgrade :p09:16
DanChapmanthats great elfy. :D09:20
elfyonce I looked at the autopilot file in a working machine with ~300 lines and compared with a not working one with ~400 lines - I knew something was up :p09:21
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samgabbayhi guys14:48
chilicuilhi samgabbay14:49
samgabbayello :)14:49
samgabbayjesus i havent done testing in like a week omg when iget home imma do some14:50
chilicuilthat's cool, take it at your own speed samgabbay =)14:51
DanChapmanHey everyone14:52
samgabbayIM BACK :p14:53
chilicuilhi DanChapman, welcome14:53
samgabbayBACK14:53
samgabbayBACK14:53
samgabbayBACK :p14:53
DanChapmannice to see some folks in here been really quiet since this morning :D14:54
samgabbaywe must talk more:)14:54
samgabbayand test more14:55
samgabbayand hackfest more 0.o14:55
samgabbaysooo i see theres many people but im the only one talking i feel a little lonley14:56
DanChapmanBeen hacking at autopilot tests all weekend. been battling with fileroller most of it grrrr just need some folks to review them so far.14:56
DanChapmanYou had a good weekend samgabbay?14:57
samgabbayweekend?\14:58
samgabbayyou mean14:58
samgabbayweeekday and no14:58
samgabbaynot really14:58
samgabbayim half asleep at school ::/14:58
samgabbayit sucks i wanna go home and test and play on my ubuntu :/14:59
samgabbay0.014:59
DanChapman:D the joys of school. Its a long weekend here, bank holiday14:59
samgabbayyou are lucky15:00
samgabbayman i wish i can be home testing right now15:00
samgabbaywere you from?15:03
chilicuilsamgabbay: how is that you're connected?, it's in your computer lab?, what kind of testing do you do?, you can also do testing on chroots, and help with srus15:03
DanChapmanEngland here. You?15:03
samgabbay@chillcuil they gave me a computer for work lol i dont work and via vpn @dan OMG SO FAR FROM WERE I AM IN CANADA :p15:04
meetingologysamgabbay: Error: "chillcuil" is not a valid command.15:04
samgabbaychillcuil they gave me a computer for work lol i dont work and via vpn @dan OMG SO FAR FROM WERE I AM IN CANADA :p15:04
samgabbayand i do ubuntu beta testing and how can i do tht with my non ubuntu computer at school15:05
DanChapmanchilicuil, would you be able to review my autopilot tests? balloons is not about today to ask him and not sure who else to ask, and i see you are an autopilot admin15:05
samgabbaywhats autopilot?15:05
samgabbay0.o15:05
DanChapmanits a testing framework, to automate testing of applications and unity15:07
chilicuilDanChapman: hi Dan', I'd love, but I'm also at work and don't have Unity installed, it's not a full featured machine =/15:07
samgabbay@dan ohhhhhh and how can i do chroots on a win 7 pc and srus15:07
meetingologysamgabbay: Error: "dan" is not a valid command.15:07
samgabbaymy school pc doesent have ubuntu so i cant test :'(15:08
DanChapmanYou could run a vm samgabbay :D15:08
samgabbayyea but its like  the schools pc and its exams soon so its not worth it for just a week :/15:08
DanChapmanchilicuil, no worries, if you get a chance at all that you can please do, all feedback is good feedback :D15:09
samgabbay@dan are you good in ssh?15:09
meetingologysamgabbay: Error: "dan" is not a valid command.15:09
samgabbaydan are you good in ssh15:09
samgabbaycuz someone in the #ubuntu needs help15:09
samgabbaygo help the guy @sasuke on #ubuntu15:10
samgabbayfor ssh15:10
knomesamgabbay, i understand somebody needs help but can you please not flood/fill the other channels with messages concerning that?15:11
samgabbayyea sozzy plus im new to the irc :/15:11
samgabbayactually is there any public ubuntu servers i can use for testing?15:13
knomeno problem, just try to keep from generating offtopic noise15:13
knomesamgabbay, there are many social channels eg. #ubuntu-offtopic15:13
knomesamgabbay, what would you be testing?15:13
samgabbayknome some ubuntu betas on vmware cuz im on my pc at school with win 7 and exams are in a week so i dont know if its worth gettings15:14
samgabbayi prefer testing it on a public server15:14
knomesamgabbay, right, you mean hardware to run vbox on. no, i don't think there are any, really15:15
samgabbay@knome or just to mess with ubuntu like use ubuntu but on a public server15:15
meetingologysamgabbay: Error: "knome" is not a valid command.15:15
samgabbaypossible?15:15
samgabbayknome or just to mess with ubuntu like use ubuntu but on a public server15:15
knomei don't think so.15:16
samgabbay:/ theres none i can use atm? :/15:16
knomecanonical or the ubuntu community doesn't really offer hardware resources for just "playing around"15:17
samgabbay@knome :/ mehhhhh well i just wanted to do testing mehy meh i guess imma have to wait till i get home to test15:18
meetingologysamgabbay: Error: "knome" is not a valid command.15:18
samgabbayknome :/ mehhhhh well i just wanted to do testing mehy meh i guess imma have to wait till i get home to test15:18
samgabbaywell il be back later guys see ya15:18
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knomeballoons, oops!16:35
knomeballoons, the manual tests have invalid html markup...16:35
knomeballoons, i wonder who introduced that format16:35
knomeballoons, example: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/view/head:/testcases/packages/1418_Fileroller%20Tests16:37
knomeballoons, <dl> can't have any markup that's not inside <dt> or <dd>.16:38
knomeballoons, you should move "This test..." outside <dl>, for example inside a <p>16:38
knomeballoons, the markup might produce output that looks fine, but it's invalid16:39
knomeballoons, if you want similarly looking output, you could just add "<br />" to the end of the test-case name line, then paste the "This test..." line under it as well16:40
knomeballoons, ping me if you need more information or help :)16:41
knomemore or less afk now, will be checking irc here and there16:41
DanChapmanballoons, i see on etherpad that letzoaf is making a start on porting gedit, do you know if this is still correct, as want to make a start on it if not16:45
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