[05:30] <pitti> Good morning
[05:42] <DanChapman> pitti morning :)
[06:58] <jibel> good morning
[07:22] <DanChapman> morning elfy
[07:23] <elfy> hi DanChapman
[07:23] <DanChapman> How did you get on with autopilot vis on xubuntu? get any apps to work?
[07:24] <elfy> none
[07:25] <elfy> the bug TheDrums linked to didn't appear to show much hope :)
[07:26] <elfy> when the holiday weekend is done and more people are about I'll dig deeper - at the moment I shall keep manual testcase head on :)
[07:28] <DanChapman> did you try 'autopilot -i Gtk <app_name>'. Oh yeah its a holiday weekend. I totally forgot ive had my head buried in autopilot testcases all weekend :D
[07:28] <elfy> yep - tried that :)
[07:29] <elfy> at the worst xubuntu will not be any worse off - but it'd be good to be better off if possible, we're trying to lay the groundwork for 14.04 testing now
[07:29] <DanChapman> There is a couple of people in #ubuntu-autopilot at the moment, throw them a question they should have an answer
[07:30] <elfy> oh
[07:30] <DanChapman> pitti was here earlier he might be able to help aswell, not sure if he still around
[07:30] <elfy> someone told me that channel name earlier and then I completely forgot lol
[07:30] <DanChapman> :D
[07:30] <elfy> I'll pop in there now and chat in a while
[07:31] <elfy> children waking up ...
[07:31] <DanChapman> :D let the games begin
[07:32] <elfy> yea - teenage girly and her friend - giggling at 2am :|
[07:38] <pitti> DanChapman: I'm back now
[07:38] <pitti> I haven't really done much with ap-gtk, sorry (that's planned for June/July)
[07:38] <elfy> ok pitti
[07:39] <elfy> pitti: so for it to not work well with xubuntu at the moment is expected?
[07:40] <pitti> certainly not "expected"
[07:40] <pitti> it shouldn't really care about which desktop you are running, it only hooks into GTK
[07:40] <elfy> ok
[07:42] <elfy> I'll install ubuntu in a vm or something so I can see what's actually expected to happen
[07:42] <elfy> but as it stands autopilot does nothing much of anything
[07:43] <pitti> it works in general
[07:43] <pitti> there are existing (shallow) tests for evince, firefox, and the like
[07:44] <elfy> pitti: I'll have another look a bit later
[07:45] <DanChapman> elfy im just downloading xubuntu will take a look on my machine :D
[07:46] <elfy> DanChapman: thanks
[07:46] <elfy> at the moment this is more a proof that autopliot is going to be of use to us as a team
[07:50] <elfy> it is I suppose 'possible' that it's not liking an upgraded to saucy raring install, but I'm clutching at straws there
[07:57] <DanChapman> just installing will see what i can figure out for you elfy :D
[08:20] <DanChapman> elfy, its working fine for me in xubuntu, I ran the evince test i created yesterday. Also i could run autopilot launch evince then autopilot vis and i could introspect fine. Did you get autopilot from the ppa?
[08:20] <elfy> yea
[08:20] <elfy> I'll try from a vm
[08:21] <DanChapman> Ok no worries. At least we know now that it works ok in xubuntu :D
[08:21] <elfy> yep
[08:21] <elfy> thanks DanChapman
[08:22] <DanChapman> Well at least ive found out my test needs adapting to work on xubuntu some labels i use are missing in evince on xubuntu
[08:22] <DanChapman> Will have a look at that later :)
[08:22] <elfy> lol
[08:42] <pitti> https://code.launchpad.net/~jibel/ubuntu/saucy/autopkgtest/allow_OR_in_depends/+merge/164902
[08:43] <pitti> jibel: ^ about this MP, this merely fixes the syntax check, right?
[08:43] <pitti> jibel: once f.base['depends'] is set, does the actual processing of the dependencies happen by apt, and already works?
[08:43] <pitti> (or pbuilder-satisfydepends, etc.)
[08:45] <pitti> apparently it gets passed to pbuilder-satisfydepends
[08:46] <jibel> pitti, autopkgtest 2.2.3ubuntu4 added versioned dependencies but disallowed "|", this is what this patch adds
[08:46] <jibel> then it get passed to pbuilder-satisfydepends which supports "|" and versions
[08:46] <pitti> ack, thanks for confirming
[08:57] <elfy> DanChapman: autopilot appears to work ok in a clean install
[08:57] <elfy> thanks :)
[08:57] <DanChapman> elfy, no problem at all :) enjoy!
[08:58] <elfy> I'll try :p
[09:07] <jibel> pitti, thanks for the merge
[09:08] <pitti> jibel: de rien, merci pour le correction !
[09:14] <elfy> DanChapman: fixed it :)
[09:16] <elfy> check the sources are correct, update, upgrade :p
[09:20] <DanChapman> thats great elfy. :D
[09:21] <elfy> once I looked at the autopilot file in a working machine with ~300 lines and compared with a not working one with ~400 lines - I knew something was up :p
[14:48] <samgabbay> hi guys
[14:49] <chilicuil> hi samgabbay
[14:49] <samgabbay> ello :)
[14:50] <samgabbay> jesus i havent done testing in like a week omg when iget home imma do some
[14:51] <chilicuil> that's cool, take it at your own speed samgabbay =)
[14:52] <DanChapman> Hey everyone
[14:53] <samgabbay> IM BACK :p
[14:53] <chilicuil> hi DanChapman, welcome
[14:53] <samgabbay> BACK
[14:53] <samgabbay> BACK
[14:53] <samgabbay> BACK :p
[14:54] <DanChapman> nice to see some folks in here been really quiet since this morning :D
[14:54] <samgabbay> we must talk more:)
[14:55] <samgabbay> and test more
[14:55] <samgabbay> and hackfest more 0.o
[14:56] <samgabbay> sooo i see theres many people but im the only one talking i feel a little lonley
[14:56] <DanChapman> Been hacking at autopilot tests all weekend. been battling with fileroller most of it grrrr just need some folks to review them so far.
[14:57] <DanChapman> You had a good weekend samgabbay?
[14:58] <samgabbay> weekend?\
[14:58] <samgabbay> you mean
[14:58] <samgabbay> weeekday and no
[14:58] <samgabbay> not really
[14:58] <samgabbay> im half asleep at school ::/
[14:59] <samgabbay> it sucks i wanna go home and test and play on my ubuntu :/
[14:59] <samgabbay> 0.0
[14:59] <DanChapman> :D the joys of school. Its a long weekend here, bank holiday
[15:00] <samgabbay> you are lucky
[15:00] <samgabbay> man i wish i can be home testing right now
[15:03] <samgabbay> were you from?
[15:03] <chilicuil> samgabbay: how is that you're connected?, it's in your computer lab?, what kind of testing do you do?, you can also do testing on chroots, and help with srus
[15:03] <DanChapman> England here. You?
[15:04] <samgabbay> @chillcuil they gave me a computer for work lol i dont work and via vpn @dan OMG SO FAR FROM WERE I AM IN CANADA :p
[15:04] <meetingology> samgabbay: Error: "chillcuil" is not a valid command.
[15:04] <samgabbay> chillcuil they gave me a computer for work lol i dont work and via vpn @dan OMG SO FAR FROM WERE I AM IN CANADA :p
[15:05] <samgabbay> and i do ubuntu beta testing and how can i do tht with my non ubuntu computer at school
[15:05] <DanChapman> chilicuil, would you be able to review my autopilot tests? balloons is not about today to ask him and not sure who else to ask, and i see you are an autopilot admin
[15:05] <samgabbay> whats autopilot?
[15:05] <samgabbay> 0.o
[15:07] <DanChapman> its a testing framework, to automate testing of applications and unity
[15:07] <chilicuil> DanChapman: hi Dan', I'd love, but I'm also at work and don't have Unity installed, it's not a full featured machine =/
[15:07] <samgabbay> @dan ohhhhhh and how can i do chroots on a win 7 pc and srus
[15:07] <meetingology> samgabbay: Error: "dan" is not a valid command.
[15:08] <samgabbay> my school pc doesent have ubuntu so i cant test :'(
[15:08] <DanChapman> You could run a vm samgabbay :D
[15:08] <samgabbay> yea but its like  the schools pc and its exams soon so its not worth it for just a week :/
[15:09] <DanChapman> chilicuil, no worries, if you get a chance at all that you can please do, all feedback is good feedback :D
[15:09] <samgabbay> @dan are you good in ssh?
[15:09] <meetingology> samgabbay: Error: "dan" is not a valid command.
[15:09] <samgabbay> dan are you good in ssh
[15:09] <samgabbay> cuz someone in the #ubuntu needs help
[15:10] <samgabbay> go help the guy @sasuke on #ubuntu
[15:10] <samgabbay> for ssh
[15:11] <knome> samgabbay, i understand somebody needs help but can you please not flood/fill the other channels with messages concerning that?
[15:11] <samgabbay> yea sozzy plus im new to the irc :/
[15:13] <samgabbay> actually is there any public ubuntu servers i can use for testing?
[15:13] <knome> no problem, just try to keep from generating offtopic noise
[15:13] <knome> samgabbay, there are many social channels eg. #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:13] <knome> samgabbay, what would you be testing?
[15:14] <samgabbay> knome some ubuntu betas on vmware cuz im on my pc at school with win 7 and exams are in a week so i dont know if its worth gettings
[15:14] <samgabbay> i prefer testing it on a public server
[15:15] <knome> samgabbay, right, you mean hardware to run vbox on. no, i don't think there are any, really
[15:15] <samgabbay> @knome or just to mess with ubuntu like use ubuntu but on a public server
[15:15] <meetingology> samgabbay: Error: "knome" is not a valid command.
[15:15] <samgabbay> possible?
[15:15] <samgabbay> knome or just to mess with ubuntu like use ubuntu but on a public server
[15:16] <knome> i don't think so.
[15:16] <samgabbay> :/ theres none i can use atm? :/
[15:17] <knome> canonical or the ubuntu community doesn't really offer hardware resources for just "playing around"
[15:18] <samgabbay> @knome :/ mehhhhh well i just wanted to do testing mehy meh i guess imma have to wait till i get home to test
[15:18] <meetingology> samgabbay: Error: "knome" is not a valid command.
[15:18] <samgabbay> knome :/ mehhhhh well i just wanted to do testing mehy meh i guess imma have to wait till i get home to test
[15:18] <samgabbay> well il be back later guys see ya
[16:35] <knome> balloons, oops!
[16:35] <knome> balloons, the manual tests have invalid html markup...
[16:35] <knome> balloons, i wonder who introduced that format
[16:37] <knome> balloons, example: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/view/head:/testcases/packages/1418_Fileroller%20Tests
[16:38] <knome> balloons, <dl> can't have any markup that's not inside <dt> or <dd>.
[16:38] <knome> balloons, you should move "This test..." outside <dl>, for example inside a <p>
[16:39] <knome> balloons, the markup might produce output that looks fine, but it's invalid
[16:40] <knome> balloons, if you want similarly looking output, you could just add "<br />" to the end of the test-case name line, then paste the "This test..." line under it as well
[16:41] <knome> balloons, ping me if you need more information or help :)
[16:41] <knome> more or less afk now, will be checking irc here and there
[16:45] <DanChapman> balloons, i see on etherpad that letzoaf is making a start on porting gedit, do you know if this is still correct, as want to make a start on it if not