[05:39] <Squirm> morning
[05:41] <trender> yo mornin
[05:57] <trender> hi
[07:00] <Kilos> morning all
[07:44] <Kilos> hi drussell Vince-0 
[08:17] <Kilos> hi Georgl 
[08:17] <Georgl> morning
[08:18] <Georgl> morning Kilos
[08:27] <magespawn> howdy all
[08:28] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[08:28] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[08:29] <magespawn> that was just the quassel over the weekend
[08:29] <Kilos> magespawn, had wonderful download last night. 808m iso in 45 mins
[08:30] <Kilos> quassel forgot to go into away mode
[08:30] <Kilos> peaked at 469 kB/s
[08:31] <Kilos> used the transmission thing
[08:36] <magespawn> i got cut off and could not reconnect all weekend
[08:36] <magespawn> nice download speed
[08:36] <Kilos> yeah what a diffs
[08:37] <Kilos> the pro even came here last night and set the topics
[08:37] <Kilos> and the fly said he would be in tekwini on the 2nd
[08:37] <Kilos> oh you read logs hey
[08:42] <inetpro> good mornings everyone 
[08:42] <inetpro> oh and good morning Kilos
[08:42] <Kilos> yoohooo hiya inetpro 
[08:43] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[08:43] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:43] <psyatw> hi inetpro
[08:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peoples
[08:47] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:47] <magespawn> hi psyatw inetpro ThatGraemeGuy
[08:48] <psyatw> hi magespawn
[08:48] <psyatw> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[08:57] <Vince-0> haai Kilos 
[08:57] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[08:58] <Kilos> oh i waqnna ask you okes a question. the crunchbang iso i got is i486 and i always used i386 iso's
[08:58] <Kilos> will it work
[08:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> unless you want to run it on an actual 386, yeah it'll work
[08:59] <Vince-0> yep
[08:59] <Vince-0> I chatted with kbmonkey and nuvolari yesterday about Ubuntu hour here
[08:59] <Kilos> cool ty
[09:00] <Kilos> i dunno what them things actually want inna pc
[09:00] <Kilos> what they say Vince-0 ?
[09:00] <Kilos> 2nd of june
[09:01] <Superhuman> i386 is optimized for 386 and above processors, i486 is for 486 processors and above. So unless you bought your current pc in 1842 (+- 1996 in real world), it should work
[09:02] <Kilos> oh this one shows i686 somewhere
[09:02] <charl_> good morning
[09:02] <Kilos> hi charl_ Superhuman 
[09:02] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[09:03] <Superhuman> hi
[09:03]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[09:03] <charl_> Kilos: i ran badblocks yesterday on the drive and it returned no errors
[09:03] <charl_> Kilos: it seems like the firmware is borked
[09:03] <Kilos> then it must be the firmware
[09:03] <Kilos> get an upgrade patch
[09:03] <charl_> yeah
[09:07] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[09:07] <Superhuman> Kilos: The rule-of-thumb is that anything below i686 is for 32 bit systems.
[09:09] <charl_> darn, no available firmware updates either :(
[09:09] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[09:09] <Maaz> charl_: No problem
[09:09] <Kilos> ah ty Superhuman 
[09:11] <Kilos> charl_, then contact the manufacturer or where you get them, im sure theyll replace it
[09:12] <Vince-0> Kilos, planning here is a bit short - nuvolari has been ill
[09:13] <Vince-0> I would have liked to get a bunch of merch, an install lab and some publicity but there isn't a plan for a stall anywhere. Ideally in a mall
[09:13] <Kilos> oh my, then you guys gotta rush, fly will be there the second
[09:13] <Kilos> maybe just a get together
[09:13] <Vince-0> yar
[09:16] <Kilos> is nuvolari ok?
[09:17] <Kilos> too sick to work a keyboard
[09:22] <Vince-0> ya he's OK
[09:22] <Vince-0> flu
[09:23] <Kilos> ai!
[09:43] <magespawn> ahh young people, live unhealthy and then get sick, hey Kilos?
[09:43] <Kilos> yeah the kids of today
[09:43] <Kilos> hehe
[09:44] <magespawn> lol
[09:44] <magespawn> i was just having a look back, in the last ten years i have had 2 days off sick
[09:44] <Kilos> good
[09:45] <Kilos> but doing the game thing is like a holiday
[09:45] <Kilos> and playing with pc's too
[09:46] <magespawn> ahh well then, i have the perfect way of earning an income
[09:46] <Kilos> yeah
[09:47] <Kilos> try mixing concrete and laying bricks all day
[09:47] <Kilos> by hand i mean not with mixers
[09:49] <magespawn> mm different kind of work
[09:49] <Kilos> yeah thats hard work. sleep like a baby at night
[09:49] <magespawn> driving and entertaining people for 6 hours can drain you as well
[09:49] <Kilos> mentally
[09:50] <magespawn> driving a 20 year old cruiser with no power anything, physically too some days
[09:53] <magespawn> i did work for fattis&monis first year out of school, i do not think i have slept like that before or since
[09:53] <Kilos> lol
[09:53] <Kilos> yeah noobs get pushed to the limits
[09:54] <Kilos> same as with appies
[09:54] <magespawn> appies or gopher
[09:54] <Kilos> ya
[09:55] <magespawn> being told to go and fetch a left handed screw driver
[09:55] <Kilos> hahaha
[09:55] <magespawn> or a soft hammer
[09:55] <Kilos> and long wait
[09:56] <magespawn> yup, those are usually found in the corner of the workshop
[09:56] <Kilos> lol
[09:57] <Kilos> i wonder what the geek route is
[09:57] <magespawn> not too sure
[09:58] <magespawn> being told to use sneaker net, or carrier pigeon over ip
[09:58] <Kilos> lol
[09:59] <Kilos> some of these guys here musta been the route
[10:00] <magespawn> indeed
[10:00] <magespawn> going to be setting up a ubuntu server with school tool for my sons primary school
[10:00] <magespawn> http://schooltool.org/
[10:01] <Kilos> lemme go see
[10:03] <Kilos> nice
[10:03] <Kilos> thats where ubuntu has to start taking over
[10:03] <Kilos> kids are the future
[10:04] <Kilos> they actually cleverer than us till they hit 20
[10:05] <magespawn> in some ways yes, and a lot more open than most adults to new things and ideas
[10:06] <Kilos> ya not died in the wool like oldies
[10:07] <magespawn> dyed maybe?
[10:08] <charl_> hi magespawn 
[10:08] <Kilos> oh ya that ty
[10:08] <magespawn> hey charl_
[10:09] <magespawn> i was thinking of adding an ownCloud install as well
[10:11] <Kilos> they got a big server?
[10:13] <magespawn> no not really, but this would only be for school stuff, not personal photos etc
[10:14] <Kilos> a pc as a server or a proper server
[10:14] <magespawn> i will do the schooltool first and see how it handles the load
[10:14] <magespawn> a pc as a server 
[10:14] <Kilos> ah
[10:14] <Kilos> wireless or cabled?
[10:15] <magespawn> but is a pentium dual core 2.7Ghz with a gig of ram, cabled intially, till the rest of the network is put in place
[10:16] <magespawn> we are going to try a pc in every clas for the teachers to work from
[10:16] <Kilos> with more ram it should handle everything fine
[10:16] <Kilos> ah
[10:16] <magespawn> they would also be able to use their laptops if they have
[10:16] <Kilos> dont primary school kids carry lappies yet
[10:16] <magespawn> i can 'steal' ram from one of the other machines if i need too
[10:17] <magespawn> no not the kids, the teachers
[10:17] <Kilos> they using win hey?
[10:17] <magespawn> yes
[10:17] <magespawn> schooltool is web based though.
[10:18] <Kilos> i been playing. got 7 to share 3g here over direct ethernet cable
[10:18] <magespawn> cool beans
[10:18] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:19] <Kilos> didnt have to go the iptables and masquerade route
[10:19] <Kilos> find that bing thing is fast too
[10:19] <Georgl> is there going to be a LTS version for 13.xx?
[10:19] <Kilos> faster than google anyway
[10:20] <Kilos> no
[10:20] <Kilos> 14.04 next one Georgl 
[10:20] <Georgl> ok. thanks Kilos
[10:20] <Kilos> np
[10:20] <Georgl> so now do i wait or????
[10:20] <magespawn> is 13.04 not LTS?
[10:21] <Georgl> not that i am aware...
[10:21] <Kilos> you can play with the in between releases
[10:21] <magespawn> they are supporting 12.04 till april 2017
[10:21] <Kilos> nope every 2 years only
[10:21]  * Georgl goes to lewk
[10:21] <Georgl> ah thanks
[10:21] <Kilos> 12.04 is good
[10:21] <magespawn> the LTS is only 9 months from now on, i think
[10:22] <Kilos> oh my
[10:22] <magespawn> with rolling releases in between
[10:22] <magespawn> so no more xx.10 versions
[10:22] <Kilos> no more 5 years for servers and 3 for the rest?
[10:22] <Kilos> i want long support for 12.04 man
[10:23] <magespawn> that is what i think yes, still not 100% on that myself
[10:23] <magespawn> 12.04 is the last one to get the long support
[10:23] <magespawn> hold
[10:23] <magespawn> on'
[10:23] <Kilos> they surely not gonna cut server support time
[10:24] <magespawn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[10:24] <Kilos> oh magespawn someone asked here about putting a gui on a server
[10:24] <Kilos> forget who
[10:25] <magespawn> Normal Ubuntu releases are supported for 9 months. LTS releases are supported for 5 years.
[10:25] <Kilos> ya thats still good
[10:25] <magespawn> that is from the link
[10:26] <Kilos> i can stretch 12.04 till i get a faster pc
[10:26] <magespawn> why would you want to do that? did they say? i was talking about having a gui installed so that you could do either if you wanted
[10:26] <Kilos> there was a reason
[10:27] <Kilos> he wanted a minimal gui i think
[10:27] <Kilos> but  didnt wanna go the ubuntu minimal install route
[10:27] <Kilos> hi adeebnqo 
[10:27] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[10:33] <Kilos> ah it was charl_ 
[10:42] <magespawn> charl_: you still around?
 what happened to xdm on ubuntu 13.04
[10:45] <Kilos> thats how it started at 12.58, dunno yesterday or day before
[10:45] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[11:33] <charl_> hi magespawn 
[11:33] <charl_> was just out on lunch but am back now
[11:34] <charl_> i just tried debian 7 and the xdm package didn't even exist
[11:34] <charl_> there was a replacement though
[11:35] <charl_> ended up installing that and it worked fine but then installed tint2 and couldn't get that to work either
[11:35] <charl_> debian also didn't configure my apt sources.list correctly, first had to change it by hand
[11:35] <charl_> am not impressed :(
[11:44] <magespawn> have no tried it yet, do think that is normal?
[11:45] <charl_> what is?
[11:46] <magespawn> all that hassel. i have no experience of debian directly
[11:47] <charl_> dunno i had a different experience with debian 6 but ok, the world moves on :)
[11:47] <magespawn> indeed
[11:51] <Kilos> lol charl_  install your server then install mate on it
[11:51] <Kilos> mate is light
[11:52] <charl_> i'll rather do cinnamon actually
[11:52] <charl_> i am surprised at how much traction debian seems to have lost to ubuntu and mint
[11:52] <charl_> it looks like debian has moved into obscurity
[11:53] <magespawn> any idea why?
[11:55] <charl_> there was a lot of dissatisfaction about debian regarding outdated/poorly maintained packages
[11:55] <charl_> they also have a very strict policy about binary drivers
[11:56] <charl_> as a result it took some "work" to get a new installation up and running perfectly
[11:56] <charl_> and maybe because they were very conservative and too careful to try new things
[11:56] <charl_> only debian users i know now are hard core fans
[11:57] <magespawn> so a bit more like 'traditional linux', not so easy for every one
[11:57] <charl_> you could say that
[11:57] <charl_> don't get me wrong, at the time i thought it was the all-round best distro by far
[11:57] <charl_> but they just seemed to have fallen behind
[11:58] <magespawn> ubuntu is based on it 
[11:58] <charl_> yeah i know, you get "debian-based" distros just like you get redhat-based
[11:58] <charl_> ubuntu/mint are now the most well known
[11:59] <charl_> i was also a bit surprised to see mint has now topped ubuntu on http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major
[11:59] <charl_> but let's face it, a lot of people just don't like unity
[11:59] <charl_> and the initial versions were rather buggy and painful to use
[11:59] <Kilos> mint makes a lekker sauce to put on muttom chops
[12:00] <charl_> indeed, mint sauce is delicious
[12:00] <charl_> good in tea too
[12:00] <Kilos> ya and helps for heartburn
[12:00] <magespawn> and makes the breath smell minty
[12:01] <Kilos> lol
[12:03] <magespawn> i lwould like to try them all if i can, but each install takes time, and i do have to work some of the time
[12:04] <magespawn> and sleep etc
[12:04] <Kilos> lol
[12:04] <Kilos> im gonna try crunchbang soon
[12:05] <charl_> i've taken it for a ride the other day, looks really good
[12:06] <charl_> i am not happy that there are no download mirrors for it though
[12:06] <Kilos> oh is it
[12:06] <charl_> i had to fetch it via bittorrent
[12:06] <Kilos> so where you get apps then
[12:06] <charl_> based on debian7 so standard debian packages
[12:06] <Kilos> oh ya but that was lekker fast here
[12:06] <charl_> it uses the openbox wm which i happen to like
[12:07] <charl_> bittorrent is a great distribution medium but when you have slow internet or when they shape bittorrent traffic down, it's not good
[12:07] <Kilos> does it use apt-get as well or only aptitude
[12:07] <charl_> i'm sure it supports apt-get and aptitude just like debian
[12:08] <charl_> at work i managed to download it at like 60MBps though because we have gigabit ethernet and no shaping
[12:08] <Kilos> but with no repos where does it wanna get from?
[12:08] <charl_> but afaik in african countries like south africa they "shape" traffic (down-prioritise certain protocols)
[12:09] <charl_> no the repos are standard debian repositories
[12:09] <charl_> i'm talking about downloading the iso
[12:10] <Kilos> mine was 10 times faster than getting a ubuntu iso
[12:13] <charl_> over bittorrent?
[12:13] <Kilos> ya
[12:13] <charl_> interesting
[12:13] <Kilos> got crunch in 45 mins
[12:13] <charl_> yeah i have to say, i got a really fast download too
[12:14] <charl_> well there you have it, the road forwards, distribute everything via bittorrent :)
[12:14] <Squirm> I use bittorrent for things like that
[12:16] <charl_> Squirm: you use tint2 right?
[12:17] <charl_> i couldn't get it running on debian now
[12:17] <charl_> on ubuntu it runs fine without any parameters
[12:18] <charl_> on debian it looked like it wanted me to specify a configuration file
[12:18] <charl_> was it you or was it somebody else, not sure now
[12:54] <Kilos> hi publicus14 
[12:57] <charl_> Kilos: i found the problem with my hard drive
[12:57] <charl_> Kilos: the values are not incorrect, they are used for other things (seems to be a typical seagate problem)
[12:58] <charl_> http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/HDD/Seagate_SER_RRER_HEC.html
[12:58] <charl_> via: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/289512-32-high-smart-values-seagate-normal
[13:01] <Kilos> ah
[13:30] <charl_> ciao
[14:08] <magespawn> Debian only releases every two years, that seems to be the opposite of what every one else is doing
[14:09] <Kilos> you dont think we also gonna end up like that?
[14:09] <Kilos> just lts releases
[14:12] <Kilos> wbb. gonna check if i can install the bang thing from stick
[14:14] <magespawn> no do think so
[14:15] <magespawn> not
[14:31] <magespawn> home time 
[14:31] <magespawn> later all
[16:18] <Squirm> evening
[16:19] <trender> so what has happened to kilos ?
[16:19] <trender> he choked on a bad distro ?
[16:20] <Squirm> you see the mybb post
[16:20] <Squirm> "If you think pushing 1TB per month on your 10Mbps uncapped ADSL account is bad, think again!"
[16:20] <Squirm> n Internet user in California using a 300Mbps Bonded Verizon FiOS connection has been warned by his service provider after consuming 77TB in March 2013.
[16:20] <Squirm> The user, who calls himself “houkouonchi”, explained that he hosts a server rack at his house with 209TB of storage. He offers a range of services, including video streaming and P2P file sharing.
[16:20] <Squirm> His bandwidth usage over the last few months has been 35TB in January, 32TB in February, 77TB in March, and 28TB in April.
[16:22] <trender> those okes should be told they need a "big mac" business account
[16:23] <trender> okes like that screw it up for everyone im sure
[16:24]  * Squirm shrugs
[16:24] <Squirm> If I had that speed I might do the same
[16:24] <trender> yea ditto
[16:25] <trender> why dont they just cap
[16:25] <Squirm> cause they don't need to yet
[16:25] <Squirm> obviously
[16:25] <trender> seems a little silly to give a warning
[16:26] <trender> i know for 1 i dont want to hear from my isp
[16:26] <trender> i cant be bothered
[16:27] <trender> 300Mbps is hectic speed
[16:27] <trender> is this fibre ?
[16:28] <trender> i dont think copper can do more then 40Mbps
[16:28] <Squirm> "Verizon FiOS is a bundled Internet access, telephone, and television service which operates over a fiber-optic communications network."
[16:28] <Squirm> Japan has hit 2GBps download speed, 1GBps upload speed
[16:28] <trender> uhuh
[16:28] <Squirm> through a type of bonded fibre
[16:29] <trender> eish!!
[16:29] <trender> thats hectic!!
[16:29] <Squirm> at $50 per month
[16:30] <Cantide> yeah, my brother says his 50 Mbps connection in Japan costs him about the same as 3 burgers
[16:30] <Cantide> SA sucks -.-v
[16:30] <Squirm> Google has been rolling out Gigabit fibre in the states
[16:32] <Squirm> Telkoms uncapped VDSL bundle
[16:32] <Squirm> is at R2840pm
[16:32] <Squirm> and that's 40MBps
[16:32] <Cantide> hahaha
[16:32] <Cantide> yeah
[16:33] <Cantide> SK is also upping their game
[16:33] <Squirm> What is this Plan ideally suited for?
[16:33] <Squirm> Retrieving email
[16:33] <Squirm> Surfing the internet
[16:34] <Squirm> those are 2 options
[16:34] <Squirm> Telkom lists
[16:34] <Squirm> for their 40Mbit line
[16:36] <Cantide> lol
[16:37] <Squirm> lack of sleep and a little hyped on caffeine. please excuse me :P
[16:37] <Squirm> and it's time to study some more I guess
[16:41] <Cantide> http://cdn-s3-1.wanelo.com/product/image/2585583/original.jpg
[16:42] <Squirm> brilliant
[16:42] <Squirm> though I have my RHCE exam on Friday :/
[16:42] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:42] <Squirm> hi Kilos 
[16:43] <Kilos> i see my modem prob stems from debian
[16:43] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[16:43] <Kilos> crunchbang also dont see the modem
[16:43] <Cantide> RHCE? Red Hat Certification Exam?
[16:43] <Squirm> Cantide: indeed
[16:43] <Squirm> oh
[16:43] <Squirm> no
[16:43] <Cantide> nice
[16:43] <Cantide> oh
[16:43] <Cantide> i guessed it -.-
[16:43] <Squirm> Red Hat Certified Engineer
[16:43] <Cantide> ah
[16:43] <Cantide> i was close!
[16:44] <Squirm> first level is Red Hat Certified System Administrator(RHCSA), then you can get your RHCE
[16:44] <Squirm> and that's why you use abbreviations :P
[16:45] <Cantide> :p
[16:45] <Kilos> and only 2 workspaces
[16:45] <Kilos> sigh
[16:45] <Squirm> Kilos: should be easy to change that
[16:45] <Squirm> right click on the workspace switcher
[16:46] <Kilos> it open a long list of things
[16:46] <Squirm> Preferences?
[16:47] <Kilos> nope
[16:49] <Squirm> haven't used Crunchbang, but it should be possible
[16:49] <Kilos> ill mail the monkey tomorrow
[16:50] <Kilos> and also installing sakis3g has to be done fifferently
[16:50] <Kilos> differently
[16:50] <Kilos> cant tight click extract here
[16:51] <Kilos> so using fone at the moment
[16:53] <Kilos> at least it has synaptic in and xchat and pidgin
[16:54] <Squirm> hmm
[16:54] <Squirm> just try and double click on the sakis3g package?
[16:54] <Kilos> it opens  a window open with
[16:55] <Squirm> select the contects and drag it into a folder/onto your desktop?
[16:55] <Kilos> thats another thing cant drag from stick to desktop
[16:55] <Kilos> hehe
[16:55] <Kilos> lots to learn
[16:56] <Squirm> and in that time, CentOS on my netbook
[16:57] <Kilos> ah thats what nuvolari uses at work
[16:57] <Squirm> It's a rebranded Red Hat
[16:57] <Squirm> I'd only use it as a server though
[16:57] <Kilos> ya thats what he does
[16:58] <Kilos> also no sound here in xchat
[16:58] <Kilos> maybe i need a reboot after upgrading
[16:59] <Squirm> na
[17:00] <Squirm> well, should only need to restart on kernel upgrade
[17:00] <Kilos> must be
[17:00] <Kilos> its the first update/upgrade
[17:00] <Kilos> ya it did linux stuff too
[17:01] <Squirm> it's all linux stuff ;)
[17:01] <Kilos> lol i mean the headers etc
[17:03] <Kilos> it is xfce i hope
[17:03] <Kilos> installing xfce-extras
[17:08] <Kilos> i remember the monkey also had 3g probs
[17:17] <Kilos> wbb
[17:28] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:28] <Squirm> ...mmh
[17:29] <Kilos> lol
[17:29] <Kilos> back on unity
[17:29] <Kilos> i forgot xchat sound need work on xfce things
[17:31] <magespawn> good evening
[17:31] <Squirm> hi magespawn 
[17:31] <magespawn> hey Squirm 
[17:32] <magespawn> are you taking any courses for the exam? i forget
[17:33] <Kilos> yo magespawn 
[17:33] <magespawn> hey Kilos 
[17:35] <Squirm> magespawn: did the one I needed at the end of Jan
[17:35] <Squirm> it's a bit long ago
[17:36] <magespawn> if you have been practising/using the skills it should be okay
[17:39] <Squirm> I know
[17:39] <Squirm> but there lies the issue
[17:39] <Squirm> my current job doesn't exactly allow me to practice such skills
[17:40] <Squirm> and I should be practicing such skills now. but can't concentrate :/
[17:40] <Kilos> lo Trixar_za 
[17:40] <Squirm> eek
[17:40]  * Squirm kicks Trixar_za 
[17:40] <Trixar_za> lo Kilos
[17:40]  * Squirm hides behind Kilos 
[17:40] <Kilos> lol
[17:41] <Squirm> Trixar_za: I completely forgot Trudi Canavan had more books to write. I was happy to find out I have 2 new books :D
[17:41] <Squirm> well, half a book now, but it was 2
[17:41] <Trixar_za> lol
[17:42] <Trixar_za> The Glass Blower series?
[17:42] <Squirm> no
[17:42] <Squirm> Black Magician Trilogy
[17:42] <Squirm> well, the trilogy after that
[17:42] <Trixar_za> Oh right, her :P
[17:42] <Trixar_za> Could never get into those books
[17:42] <Trixar_za> But you did remind me of a trilogy I haven't read yet
[17:43] <Squirm> I still preferred the first 1 or 2 books. They focused on the magic aspect. Now it's a lot of politics
[17:44] <Squirm> Trixar_za: have you read The Gate Thief yet?
[17:46] <Trixar_za> Not yet no
[17:46] <Trixar_za> Still have to find a proper mobi reader for my phone
[17:47] <Squirm> Trixar_za: have you tried epub?
[17:48] <Squirm> and you get free services like these
[17:48] <Squirm> http://www.2epub.com/
[17:48] <smile4ever> Hi :)
[17:48] <Squirm> hey smile4ever 
[17:49] <Trixar_za> Still have to find a proper epub reader too :P
[17:49] <smile4ever> Hi Squirm. Big hug for you :)
[17:49] <smile4ever> Trixar_za: have you tried out calibre? :P
[17:49] <Squirm> hmm
[17:49] <Squirm> and what have I done to earn such a thing
[17:49] <smile4ever> I think they support epub
[17:49] <smile4ever> or else try Sumatra PDF
[17:49] <smile4ever> :)
[17:49] <Squirm> smile4ever: for a Nokia cell
[17:49] <smile4ever> Squirm: oh :(
[17:50] <Kilos> Trixar_za, give me you link for sakis3g please
[17:50] <Kilos> crunchbang dont see my modem either
[17:51] <Trixar_za> http://trixarian.net/sakis3g.gz ?
[17:51] <Trixar_za> I think
[17:51] <Trixar_za> :P
[17:51] <Kilos> ty
[17:57] <Squirm> so my netbook
[17:57] <Squirm> (not charging)
[17:57] <Squirm> just said it was charging
[17:57] <Squirm> now it's saying it's not charging and it has 5hours of life in 4.2% of battery
[17:57] <Squirm> ...
[18:02] <Kilos> ai!
[18:05] <magespawn> Squirm: thats not too bad then hey
[18:06] <Squirm> lol
[18:06] <Squirm> I think it's broken :P
[18:12] <Symmetria> http://meeting.afrinic.net/afrinic-18/node/405
[18:14] <magespawn> Symmetria: before i click that, what is it?
[18:15] <Symmetria> heh, my board nomination
[18:15] <Symmetria> for afrinic
[18:15] <Symmetria> ;p
[18:16] <magespawn> ahh right cool
[18:18] <Squirm> nice one
[18:20] <magespawn> friends ex works/ed for them as CTO, i think, so be nice
[18:32] <smile4ever> Good night! :)
[18:32] <Kilos> night smile4ever 
[18:32] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:33] <Cantide> night night '-'/
[18:33] <smile4ever> thanks :)
[18:40] <Cantide> good night :p
[19:01] <magespawn> night all
[19:01] <Kilos> night magespawn 
[19:01] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:03] <Kilos> night all sleep tight