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OvenWerkszequence: well upgrade from 12.04 to 10 was fine. publishing and photography metas missing, which means just publishing app wise01:19
OvenWerksupgrade to R next.01:20
OvenWerks 03:16
OvenWerkszequence: Upgrade from q to r adds generic03:20
OvenWerks(updates low-latency as well at least)03:20
OvenWerksIcon theme is wrong too... not much we can do about that.03:49
OvenWerksBackdrop doesn't change either, of course03:50
zequence-sSeems like gnome got updated, so perhaps it will be working now. I'm just updating now07:12
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ttoinehey15:55
DarkErahi guys20:36
madeinkobaiaHi DarkaEra : )21:08
madeinkobaiaOps "DarkEra" 21:09
zequenceDarkEra: Hi. I just tried the latest Gnome 3.8 today on Ubuntu Gnome. Still not working. Really weird21:10
DarkErahi there madeinkobaia :)21:13
DarkErazequence, bummer.... i wonder what's wrong21:14
madeinkobaia:)21:14
DarkErahas smartboyhw been around by the way?21:16
zequencesmartboyhw will be gone for a couple of weeks21:16
zequenceHe's busy with school now21:16
DarkErai see, thanks for the headsup21:16
DarkErai'll be back later or tomorrow, going to work a bit on my track21:50
madeinkobaiaSee you guys :)22:24
OvenWerkszequence: wrote some replies to Luke from DC. Feel free to correct anything I said.22:40
zequenceOvenWerks: I replied already. But I had also replied to Luke before that as well22:40
OvenWerksI would suggest a different xdg subdir for each DE settings22:41
zequenceWe'll get to that eventually22:41
zequenceFirst things first22:41
zequenceDid you read my reply before you replied? Kind of seems like you doubled some stuff there22:42
OvenWerksYa probably, just trying to be complete I think22:43
OvenWerksThe menu stuff is not ready for other DEs just yet22:43
zequenceI wouldn't want to confuse the guy22:43
zequenceHe doesn't have an idea about any of this stuff yet22:43
OvenWerksThe icon stuff either22:43
OvenWerksYa, but he needs to know right off he has to look for system stuff, not user directory files.22:44
zequenceNo hurry with theming. We can do that later, once we've even decided if we are to use metas for different DEs22:44
zequenceIf you had read my reply, you would have seen I already discussed that22:44
OvenWerksI would like to see some themeing even in a studio dropped on top of an already installed DE22:45
zequenceCurrently, we don't have a Ubuntu Studio theme22:47
zequenceWe would need to create one first22:47
OvenWerksYa.22:47
zequenceThat's a goal for 14.04, more than for 13.10. Will take some time to get done22:48
OvenWerksI think I meant theme as in a background and other artwork22:48
zequenceCurrently, none of the people involved do that much desktop theming22:48
zequenceWell, once we've devide we even want to use metas, we can look at putting the details right22:48
zequenceRight now, I'm only working on preparing a meta with Luke22:49
OvenWerkszequence:  I will work from the other end with kubuntu.22:49
OvenWerksThat being, taking an installed kubuntu and making a KubuntuStudio22:49
zequenceOvenWerks: Don't worry about realtime privilege for now though. If you want to look at the menu stuff, that would be great22:51
zequenceOvenWerks: I still prefer we focus on getting changes upstream, so that creating these custom menus would be easier22:51
OvenWerksI will have the menu stuff set up to work with any xdg compliant menu22:51
OvenWerksThere will be less layout stuff and rely more on the default layout except for the Studio part.22:52
OvenWerksI can replace graphics, video, multi-media with our own version and workflows, but the rest will be stock.22:54
zequenceInstalling a Debian server. experimenting with encrypted drives. Took me more than 12h to write over a 400GB drive (let's hope this install doesn't fail then)22:54
zequenceTrying to get EFI to work also22:55
OvenWerksI might need to make more than one desktop item for some of the ubuntustudio help items that start a browser etc.22:55
OvenWerksWow! I am not in need of encryped drives right now.22:56
OvenWerkszequence: we may be better off using xdg-open over exo-open in our US help submenu23:10
OvenWerksI think it ships with most other DEs, exo-open is not in KDE for example.23:11
zequenceOvenWerks: I don't have much insight into the problems with a generic Ubuntu Studio menu. But, if you like, once you've gone through enough to get an idea of some options, try to sum it up as concretely and shortly as possible in a mail. I think that would be the most constructive way to go forward 23:12
zequenceFor as long as I'm not involved in that (and I'm currently too busy), I can't really add much input. But, if you can sketch the problem up in a mail, in a comprehensive way, it'll give me a much better chance to see what the sitation is23:13
zequenceI think the key is to focus on as few details as possible23:13
zequenceAt the time, taht is23:14
OvenWerksOK.23:14
zequencewow, I got efi to work finally23:16
OvenWerksQuick question about Bug 117908323:22
ubottubug 1179083 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "ubuntustudio-audio failed to upgrade from 10.04 to precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117908323:23
OvenWerksI think we have documentation some where that upgrade to 12.04 is not supported23:23
OvenWerksIf I can find the web page, I can close the bug with a pointer to tha page.23:24
OvenWerksfound it.23:30
zequencereally? not for any flavor?23:32
OvenWerksJust US. There were too many changes with the DE23:32
OvenWerkshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/12.04release_notes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_Studio_10.04_LTS_to_Ubuntu_Studio_12.04_LTS23:32
zequenceYes, kind of makes sense23:34
OvenWerksI remember Scott adding that23:35
OvenWerksI have now marked the bug invalid23:36

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