| ochosi | elfy: hey | 06:52 |
|---|---|---|
| Noskcaj | elfy, i talked to the autopilot guys. apparently a lot of other F/OSS uses autopilot, so some might even still be usable by us. | 06:54 |
| elfy | hi ochosi | 06:57 |
| elfy | Noskcaj: thanks - what got said would be useful to know, a lot of others might use it but as it stands it fails to even start here | 06:58 |
| ochosi | elfy: if you could re-test the greeter with greybird from git please | 06:58 |
| ochosi | elfy: we just pushed some fixes | 06:58 |
| elfy | ochosi: ok - I'll boot into the machine in a little while and look :) | 06:59 |
| ochosi | elfy: thanks a lot! | 06:59 |
| ochosi | elfy: oh, and what did you mean with "top right icons rounded"? | 06:59 |
| elfy | it's a visual thing I guess - I know that they at the top - they just look really 'square' which they are anyway - perhaps it's the stark difference between the dark panel and the almost white icons | 07:00 |
| ochosi | elfy: i think you were experiencing theming issues, they should look fine now... | 07:01 |
| elfy | aah ok - well I'll update it and look shortly | 07:01 |
| ochosi | thanks! | 07:01 |
| ochosi | elfy: i'll be back in a bit, gotta run off now | 07:08 |
| elfy | ok | 07:08 |
| elfy | ochosi: that appears to be much better :) http://imagebin.org/259138 | 07:22 |
| elfy | now that I actually look in this one at the greeter - the 'icon' is there too - you can safely ignore me :) | 07:23 |
| elfy | Noskcaj: the autopilot channel doesn't log - so a copy of the logs from when you talked to them would do - thanks | 07:53 |
| Noskcaj | elfy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5706048/ | 07:56 |
| elfy | Noskcaj: so that's not where you were "i talked to the autopilot guys. apparently a lot of other F/OSS uses autopilot, so some might even still be usable by us." then | 08:00 |
| elfy | because that's what I'd like to see :) | 08:01 |
| Noskcaj | ok, and it seems that no other projects make it easy to find their involvement. you might be better with google, but i found nothing | 08:22 |
| elfy | ok thanks - I just assumed that you talking to them had something somewhere | 08:22 |
| ochosi | elfy: ok, yeah that's almost as it should be | 08:57 |
| ochosi | elfy: but bluesabre decided to break the icon-theming with his last commit ;) | 08:58 |
| ochosi | elfy: so those will also be fixed soon i guess | 08:58 |
| elfy | :) | 08:58 |
| ochosi | happy at least the rest works again | 08:58 |
| ochosi | bbl | 08:59 |
| elfy | yep - I didn't think that the idea was to have an unreadable login screen :) | 08:59 |
| elfy | hf | 08:59 |
| ochosi | hehe, ty | 08:59 |
| knome | good day | 09:04 |
| Noskcaj | evening knome | 09:04 |
| elfy | Noskcaj: autopilot will work - it's working for me now | 09:18 |
| Noskcaj | elfy, great to hear. | 09:19 |
| Noskcaj | raring or saucy? | 09:19 |
| elfy | saucy | 09:19 |
| elfy | the source was all fubar - redid the add ppa - updated/upgraded and it worked ;) | 09:20 |
| Noskcaj | can you link me the ppa? i'll try it on raring tomorrow morning | 09:20 |
| elfy | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:autopilot/ppa | 09:20 |
| elfy | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install python-autopilot | 09:20 |
| Noskcaj | if we can make this thing work for the post-install tests will be a lot easier | 09:21 |
| knome | we still can't forget manual tests though | 09:22 |
| Noskcaj | knome, no. but those post install tests take a long time, and they're not run very frequently | 09:23 |
| knome | what's taking time in them is the hardware testing, which autopilot can't really do.. | 09:24 |
| Noskcaj | knome, ok. offtopic: has there been any discussion on using a magnet link for downloading xubuntu? | 09:24 |
| knome | very brief. | 09:24 |
| elfy | bbl | 09:25 |
| Noskcaj | knome, and? | 09:28 |
| knome | Noskcaj, and there hasn't been any progress for it | 09:28 |
| Noskcaj | i can't help but wonder, why still use a file? | 09:28 |
| knome | Noskcaj, many of our users aren't as tech-savvy as us developers | 09:28 |
| Noskcaj | knome, no, but with th exception of chrome in ubuntu, a magnet works just as well, and without the semi-confusing download | 09:29 |
| knome | Noskcaj, so are you saying it works in internet explorer as well? | 09:29 |
| Noskcaj | knome, i hope so, it's the torrent client that does the work either way. | 09:30 |
| Noskcaj | so .torrent and magnet link are similar "nerd level" | 09:31 |
| knome | Noskcaj, i'm not really sure what the benefit of the magnet link would be, if it's simply a link that opens the torrent application? | 09:31 |
| Noskcaj | how they work: file: link to "trackers", then downloads from a list from the trackers. link: uses lots of confusing algorithms to ignore the need for trackers, so no "middle man" and nothing to host, no download as well. both methods get similar amounts of peers | 09:33 |
| knome | hosting is not a problem, it's an automatic process that happens with a release | 09:34 |
| Noskcaj | ok. i can't help but think we should have both then. no more effort for us, we have reliability if the tracker goes down and it's a more "neat" and less confusing way to do this | 09:36 |
| knome | if the tracker goes down, the world is upside down | 09:37 |
| knome | Noskcaj, please describe the steps we would need to take, list browsers that have problems with it and send to the mailing list and it can be taken into consideration | 09:38 |
| knome | Noskcaj, also please think of an argument against this: if the torrent link is confusing, how isn't having two different torrentish links confusing? | 09:38 |
| Noskcaj | ok, i'll look into it. i have little knowledge of how they are made. if someone is using a torrent client, they no what the link and the file are. | 09:40 |
| Noskcaj | *know | 09:40 |
| knome | i'm sure one can't make that assumption. | 09:40 |
| Noskcaj | most torrent sites use both, some use only the link | 09:40 |
| Noskcaj | knome, ok, but it's a good generalization | 09:40 |
| knome | you're saying the same thing in other words. no, i don't think it's a good generalization | 09:41 |
| Noskcaj | everywhere you can use a torrent client, they use both formats, side by side | 09:42 |
| knome | are you referring to open source downloads now, or torrent sites that do not care about copyrights? | 09:44 |
| Noskcaj | all torrent sites outside of ubuntu. even the no piracy sites | 09:46 |
| knome | ok. please link to some bigger ones that do so in your mail | 09:47 |
| Noskcaj | knome, i'll make a small personal wiki page, detail everything there | 09:53 |
| knome | Noskcaj, that's fine | 09:53 |
| Noskcaj | knome, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Noskcaj/XubuntuMagnetLinks is my "beta", i'll finish it tomorrow | 10:05 |
| knome | Noskcaj, thanks. can you also send it to the developer mailing list for broader discussion? | 10:07 |
| Noskcaj | i will when it's finished | 10:07 |
| knome | thanks | 10:08 |
| === hobgoblin is now known as elfy | ||
| bluesabre | elfy: hopefully, we can get you to this point: http://imagebin.org/259157 | 11:14 |
| elfy | bluesabre: that looks nice :) | 11:15 |
| elfy | wonder why mine isn't like that - I did the ppa for the greeter and git cloned into /usr/share/themes | 11:16 |
| bluesabre | yeah, I'm not sure whats up with that | 11:16 |
| bluesabre | hopefully we can sort it out | 11:17 |
| ochosi | i think that it's simply not the latest build | 11:17 |
| elfy | ok | 11:17 |
| ochosi | (at least that's what i assume) | 11:17 |
| elfy | but as you know - happy enough to test it for you when you need it :) | 11:17 |
| bluesabre | absolutely, and thanks! | 11:17 |
| elfy | and I assume it's nothing silly like me using nouveau on nvidia card | 11:18 |
| ochosi | i'm also currently using nouveau | 11:18 |
| elfy | ok | 11:18 |
| ochosi | but i'm already considering to switch back to nvidia | 11:18 |
| ochosi | nouveau has weird artifacts on the greeter's bg when switching user | 11:18 |
| ochosi | and it also means i can't suspend to ram | 11:18 |
| elfy | well sometimes it works for me -1304 I tried to install nvidia - themes completely 1999 :) | 11:19 |
| elfy | then in another 1304 it works fine - weird | 11:19 |
| elfy | but in my opinion the greeter should work with nouveau | 11:20 |
| ochosi | nah, it shouldn't be that bad | 11:20 |
| ochosi | it's just some graphical artifacts, not the win98 style | 11:20 |
| elfy | that's ok then | 11:20 |
| elfy | probably good if I carry on checking with nouveau then if others are looking at in nvidia | 11:21 |
| ochosi | but not being able to suspend is important for me, so i'll switch back | 11:21 |
| elfy | yea - can see that, I can suspend with nouveau | 11:22 |
| ochosi | i can suspend too, but it doesn't wake up again ;) | 11:23 |
| elfy | lol | 11:23 |
| elfy | mind you I've never tried with the laptop as it's battery lasts about 15 minutes ... | 11:23 |
| nixnine | Hey guys, I'm using ubuntu studio and all of sudden my disk/partitions have become read only. I cannot save anything to any. Can someone help me? | 13:40 |
| knome | why was that person in #xubuntu-devel? | 15:07 |
| knome | that makes *no* sense. | 15:07 |
| knome | did somebody in the ubuntu studio channels point this person here? | 15:08 |
| holstein | knome: nah.. looks like a standard emergency cross post.. we have something about the xubuntu channel in our topic for "nromal" xfce issues | 15:11 |
| holstein | normal* | 15:11 |
| knome | yeah, #xubuntu is totally fine | 15:12 |
| holstein | knome: its too bad really.. folks dont realize the similarites in the variants | 15:13 |
| holstein | a simple "read only file system ubuntu" google search would help them a lot | 15:13 |
| knome | yup. | 15:13 |
| holstein | mostly, what i feel like i do 98% of the time is properly google things | 15:14 |
| holstein | knowing what to ask where... | 15:14 |
| knome | agreed | 15:15 |
| bluesabre | knome, ochosi, other awesome and skilled translators, some new strings in catfish trunk: https://translations.launchpad.net/catfish-search/trunk | 15:57 |
| bluesabre | catfish bugs are easy to fix nowadays :) | 15:57 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: hm, i just translated all missing strings in german (12), but they're still listed in the overview page: https://translations.launchpad.net/catfish-search/trunk | 16:01 |
| bluesabre | sometimes it takes a little while for launchpad to update | 16:03 |
| ochosi | alrighty | 16:05 |
| knome | stupid bluesabre changing strings ;) | 16:13 |
| bluesabre | nope, didn't change them, forgot to include them ;) | 16:13 |
| knome | hah. | 16:13 |
| knome | stupid bluesabre forgotting to include strings | 16:13 |
| knome | better? | 16:13 |
| bluesabre | much better! | 16:14 |
| bluesabre | :( | 16:14 |
| knome | j/k, i'll go and update. | 16:14 |
| knome | shouldn't it be "ISO format", not "iso format" ? | 16:14 |
| bluesabre | probably | 16:15 |
| bluesabre | want me to change it? | 16:15 |
| knome | if you want to... :) | 16:15 |
| knome | are PATH/FILEMANAGER strings? | 16:15 |
| knome | and WRAPPER | 16:15 |
| bluesabre | more or less | 16:15 |
| bluesabre | you can change them as you see fit | 16:15 |
| knome | there's no way to know that | 16:15 |
| knome | aha... | 16:15 |
| knome | so translate? | 16:16 |
| knome | or not translate | 16:16 |
| bluesabre | don't translate | 16:16 |
| bluesabre | one sec | 16:16 |
| knome | okay | 16:16 |
| bluesabre | see here: | 16:16 |
| bluesabre | http://pastebin.com/LWLwHUxX | 16:16 |
| knome | okay | 16:17 |
| knome | can you add "context" for those? | 16:17 |
| knome | or make them look like they are strings? | 16:17 |
| knome | or sth to tell the translators that they shouldn't translate them | 16:17 |
| bluesabre | yeah, I'll do that and ISO right now | 16:17 |
| knome | ok, i'll refrain from editing until you update the translations | 16:19 |
| elfy | funny that - I was doing the catfish test thing today | 16:23 |
| bluesabre | knome: updated, should show up in a few minutes | 16:23 |
| knome | bluesabre, goodie | 16:24 |
| knome | so WRAPPER is an application? | 16:26 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: ^ german translation is now outdated | 16:26 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 16:26 |
| knome | oki | 16:26 |
| bluesabre | xdg-open | 16:26 |
| bluesabre | :) | 16:26 |
| knome | the finnish translation is done. | 16:36 |
| bluesabre | yay! | 16:36 |
| elfy | the finnish translation is finished surely :D | 16:37 |
| knome | finnished :P | 16:37 |
| elfy | :) | 16:37 |
| elfy | cya all tomorrow I hope | 16:37 |
| bluesabre | seeya elfy | 16:38 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: meh, already again outdated? | 17:07 |
| bluesabre | blame knome and his sense of consistency ;) | 17:11 |
| bluesabre | bbl | 17:15 |
| Noskcaj | knome, i've sent off the email for a magnet link | 21:46 |
| knome | i see | 21:47 |
| knome | i'll get to that tomorrow or so | 21:47 |
| Unit193 | Torrent files are still used and quite useful, not exactly deprecated. Magnets are quite nice though, even more so in IRC. | 23:10 |
| knome | Unit193, yep. | 23:43 |
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