[00:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> what could cause  .so files to show up in your /tmp, and is it safe to delete them?
[07:07] <Lehti> does a headless server really need any X11 related libraries?
[07:09] <well_laid_lawn> nope not unless you want X
[07:09] <well_laid_lawn> for remote desktop etc
[07:10] <Lehti> Hmm, because my bare minimum installation without a desktop environment in my server seems to have installed many X11 related libraries too
[07:10] <Lehti> it got me wondering are they included by default even without a DE?
[07:10] <well_laid_lawn> what did you install from? the server iso?
[07:11] <Lehti> yea
[07:11] <well_laid_lawn> you must have installed an app with X dependencies
[07:11] <Lehti> how can I search what programs are dependant on some of those libraries?
[07:12] <Lehti> would be nice to pinpoint the specific cause of this :)
[07:12] <well_laid_lawn> that would have been shown when you installed all the apps
[07:13] <Lehti> hmmh, damn
[07:15] <well_laid_lawn> http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/list-ubuntu-debian-package-dependencies-in-terminal-with-apt-rdepends/
[07:15] <well_laid_lawn> might help
[07:16] <Lehti> yeah, thanks m8
[07:16] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[12:31] <peyam> when I comming on skype I can't anything from youtube and vlc. I dont know how to fix it. I guess the problem is skype -option. anybody can read the sound device in skype?
[12:48] <Jay_> Hi, i am completely new to Xubuntu 13/Unix. I'd like to run a script in terminal on autostart which starts a program in terminal. Because this is a common thing i browsed in some forums. Answers were all really different sso i came to a point where i have a starter script on desktop which does what i want. I have inserted an autostart with the path of this file but on startup it won't start.
[12:57] <gonkin> Jay: have you made the script executable?
[13:00] <Sysi> you need to have .sh script containing lines #!/bin/bash and xfce4-terminal -x programname, set it to be executable and then add it to autostart
[13:17] <Jay_> What i did now is i changet to /home/user/.config/autostart there was the starterfile on desktop which i created, i deleted it, dragged another copy of it into the same folder and now it works
[13:17] <Jay_> I made the script executable before and everything worked when i started the script directly
[13:18] <Jay_> it just wouldnt autostart
[13:18] <Jay_> well now i got it, thank you for your help!
[14:31] <Teemu> Hi, i am facing a little problem while using Ubuntu first time
[14:31] <Teemu> I think anyone can solve this in like 10 seconds
[14:32] <Teemu> http://maodonovan.blogspot.fi/2011/10/huawei-e367-on-linux.html I am following these instructions to activate my Huawei device
[14:33] <Teemu> and im stuck part when i have appended the info in .conf
[14:33] <Teemu> after that i just dont know why i cant get it to work since instructions seem to be very straight forward
[14:33] <Teemu> but system does not  react to my commands in any way
[14:36] <elfy> Teemu: this is the Xubuntu support channel try joining the ubuntu channel, type /join #ubuntu
[14:37] <Teemu> I am actually running Xubuntu
[14:37] <Teemu> Misstyped it
[14:37] <Teemu> But I am not getting why the  "modprobe usbserial vendor=0x12d1 product=0x1506" command is not doing anything
[14:38] <Teemu> It does not give out error message
[14:38] <elfy> I'll not be able to help - hang around and see if someone else is able to
[14:39] <Teemu> Thats pretty much what I was going to do :)
[14:39] <elfy> :)
[14:40] <genii-around> Teemu: After you execute the modprobe command, what is the result from: dmesg | tail -n15 ?    ( please use a pastebin, don't paste directly here in the channel). Likely it is making the device properly, like /dev/ttyUSB0    or such
[14:42] <Teemu> When I what? I am very rookia with Linux systems.
[14:43] <genii-around> Teemu: eg:, you wrote earlier, <Teemu> But I am not getting why the  "modprobe usbserial vendor=0x12d1 product=0x1506" command is not doing anything      ...but you see, if in general you run a command andd there is no problem with the command, you will not see anything saying "Hey, it went OK!" or such. It should just return to the command prompt.
[14:43] <genii-around> !pastebin
[14:44] <Teemu> So you mean it actually might  went as planned but  my spidersences did not catch it?
[14:45] <genii-around> Teemu: Yes, exactly
[14:45] <Teemu> But before that step when i am running the "usb_modswitch" it gives out alot of different commands, but the guide has no info how to use them
[14:45] <Teemu> am i supposed to just wrote in the "usb_modswitch" and ignore all... what are they called
[14:46] <Teemu> i dont know the word but the letter which all have meanings (mb parametres?)
[14:47] <genii-around> Teemu: So then the best thing is to copy all the text which happens you run all the commands, copy that to the pastebin URL which the bot describes above, then to give us the URL of your pastebin so it can be examined and perhaps enlighten us
[14:49] <Teemu> Which commands you mean? Since i Must unplug this computer from internet while i am using another one
[14:51] <Teemu> Actually never mind, I am forced to plug everything off since theres storm coming. I hope my budy can help me while he shows up
[14:51] <Teemu> Next time ill come back with pastes if needed, thanks for tips tho
[14:51] <genii-around> Hm
[14:52] <i3luefire> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[14:52] <i3luefire> *hi
[14:53] <genii-around> Those instructions they are following are not very good, they say everything as root instead of using sudo, also they use rmmod instead of modprobe -r and some other annoying things...
[14:53]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[17:16] <smithw> Hello. Is there anyway to add appmenu (i.e., menubar on top) support to xfce currently? All I found is an old, unmantained plugin (xfce4-appmenu-plugin) that won't even install on Xubuntu 13.04 due to dependency issues. Thanks in advance.
[17:19] <holstein> smithw: i dont know what that is.. do you have a screenshot of what you want? or more information?
[17:22] <smithw> holstein: er, it's just having the menubar from each application on the top of the screen, like OS X, Unity and KDE (with some config) can do. The menubar does not show on the window of the app anymore, just on the top panel.
[17:23] <smithw> http://lh3.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TLGNzlefpdI/AAAAAAAACHE/Dso5FZf9fXk/s2000/appmenu.png <- this would be a good example, from unity
[17:23] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/27189/is-there-a-global-menu-for-the-xfce-panel
[17:24] <holstein> !info maximus
[17:25] <holstein> smithw: i think it was maximus i used back in 8.04 or so on my netbook
[17:25] <holstein> if you want something like unity... unity is a lot like unity
[17:25] <smithw> http://gnomefiles.org/content/show.php/OMG+!+XFCE+Global+Menu+%5BPPA+Ready%5D?content=146102 <- this is what I've been trying to install without success up until now.
[17:26] <holstein> up til now? so its working now?
[17:27] <smithw> holstein: I absolutely adore unity's design, but I find its bugs make it unusable for me. so I "unitified" KDE, and it works, but it's slow. now I'm trying xfce, and will see if it sticks...
[17:27] <holstein> i find auto hiding the panels to give me what i want without having to add PPA's and make XFCE do too much outside the defaults
[17:27] <smithw> holstein: nope, I meant I've been trying up until now, without success, I'm sorry
[17:28] <holstein> smithw: you'd need to ask the maintainers of those packages for support
[17:28] <holstein> i would try stepping back a bit, and see if you cant find something more "default" that will fit your needs
[17:29] <holstein> what do i do? use use a launcher like kupfer or synapse or gnome-do.. i either dont use, or autohide, or let windows maximize over the panel.. this gives me a full screen app with no extra menubar..
[17:30] <smithw> I like the menu bar on top not because of screen real estate, but because of of the "infinite height"
[17:30] <holstein> smithw: right.. i have no "menubar"
[17:58] <smithw> holstein: wait, not even the menubar for specific applications?
[18:01] <holstein> smithw: whats the question? do i use a menubar?
[18:02] <smithw> holstein: you said you have no "menubar"... I was referring all the time to applications' menubar, like GVim or xfce4-terminal have.
[18:05] <holstein> smithw: if i can use fullscreen mode, i usually do.. having no menubar
[18:06] <holstein> smithw: the way i see it, the goal is to hae only one "bar" or panel
[18:06] <holstein> i have that.. only somtimes i have none.. if you want it to look like OSX, or unity.. unity looks like osx and unity
[18:06] <holstein> otherwise, im sure there are ways of making XFCE look like that, but it could be challeninging since its not a gola of the XFC project by default to emulate OSX or unity
[18:07] <holstein> seems like you have found some pacakges via ppa that might add that funcionality.. but you wouldneed to ask them for support, since we do not make or maintain those packages
[18:08] <holstein> the package i used to use was maximus.. thats what i suggested above.. how does it work? i used it from the netbook remix
[18:10] <smithw> holstein: oh, I get it now. yeah, I would use unity (as I have for a long time), but with each new ubuntu release it appear to get more broken. actually, I found that even kde is able to emulate unity better than unity itself, and I'd be using that, if not for the bloat. I'm currently trying other options, and xfce seems to do almost everything I want from a DE, except for the global menu.
[18:11] <smithw> I tried looking for xfapplet from the link you suggested before, but it seems it's also unmantained. I'm searching for maximus right now, but I just started that (had to leave my desk for a while) and still haven't found any instructions to install it
[18:12] <holstein> i dont think anyone (except you) has said unity is getting anything but better and faster.. so, consider exploring a bug with your hardware (assuming you want to use unity)
[18:13] <holstein> i dont use it personally, so i cant say.. but i will say, i dont think adding ppa's to xubuntu to get the ui functioning on a basic level the way you want is a good idea
[18:13] <holstein> smithw: instructions to install maximus?
[18:14] <holstein> sudo apt-get install maximus
[18:14] <smithw> holstein: I just realized it's on the default repositories.
[18:14] <holstein> yup.. thats why i think it might be a "better" option
[18:14] <holstein> assuming it does what you want, with XFCE.. and i was using it with gnome, and cant say
[18:14] <smithw> holstein: yeah, I guess I've been searching a lot for esoteric things and kind of forgot of the obvious ways
[18:15] <holstein> smithw: no worries
[18:18] <smithw> holstein: anyway, thank you for your help and your time. from what I've seem, maximus does not do what I need, but I'll live without that menubar. thanks a lot
[18:19] <holstein> smithw: you might have to start it..
[18:19] <holstein> smithw: it wont be "install and enjoy".. i seem to remember starting it
[18:21] <smithw> holstein: it's just not the point of the project. it seems it's designed to maximize and undecorate every window, but that's not what I'm trying to do (except for the webbrowser, I usually use unmaximized windows).
[18:22] <holstein> smithw: its part of what you are trying to do
[18:22] <holstein> smithw: there were a few components.. anyways.. that was just happening by default in the netbook remix
[18:23] <holstein> you can see it here
[18:23] <xubuntu652> Hello >
[18:23] <holstein> http://ubuntu-netbook-remix.en.softonicdownloads.com/?kcid=247abf8d-f5ce-9bc8-d35e-00003e6ef712
[18:23] <holstein> dont download it from there BTW...
[18:24] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR
[18:24] <xubuntu652> Hello, I have just installed Xubuntu and im not sure how to go about changin the resolutions?
[18:25] <xubuntu652> i only have up to 1024*768 and i actually need something around 1600*900
[18:25] <holstein> smithw: looks like the window-picker-applet is what was there.. again, not sure about how it works with xfce
[18:26] <holstein> xubuntu652: sometimes, its as simple as installing a proprietary graphics driver.. if its not working as expected out of the box, i would look at
[18:26] <holstein> !graphics
[18:26] <holstein> !ati
[18:26] <holstein> if you dont have ati or nvidia, we can go from there with other options
[18:26] <smithw> holstein: installed it, runned it and now I'll have to logout/login to get window decorations back, haha. I guess I'll just live without the menubar on xfce and alternate xfce and kde depending on what I'm going to do
[18:27] <smithw> holstein: again, even if I didn't find a way to do what I wanted, I appreciate your help and effort a lot. thanks so much
[18:27] <holstein> smithw: cheers
[18:27] <xubuntu652> ok. this is just a old dell 545s no fancy graphic cards or anything
[18:28] <xubuntu652> ill check it out though
[18:28] <holstein> xubuntu652: nvidia nor ati are defined as being "fancy".. just typically requiring a proprietary driver to "fix" the issue you are having (easily)
[18:29] <xubuntu652> Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics
[18:29] <xubuntu652> that is the output of lspci VGA
[18:29] <xubuntu652> lspci | grep VGA **
[18:32] <xubuntu652> and i dont have a xorg.conf under /etc/X11... so this is why i dont know where to go next ..
[18:33] <holstein> xubuntu652: you can put one in place, if it helps.. thats another suggestion.. sometimes (since you dont need a proprietary graphics card) i grab a knoppix live CD and boot up, and configure the desktop as i want.. and copy the xorg.conf for use with ubuntu
[18:35] <xubuntu652> so if i throw a xorg.conf in there it should read on configure based on it?
[18:35] <holstein> xubuntu652: no.. it *will* be used
[18:36] <xubuntu652> ok so basically to solve this i should get a xorg.conf from another pc paste it to /etc/X11 and it will work. correct?
[18:37] <holstein> xubuntu652: to attempt adding the functionality, you can try adding an xorg.conf that way, yes.. will it work? no one can make that guarantee
[18:37] <holstein> it literally wont hurt as long as you know how to remove it from a live CD and get back
[18:37] <xubuntu652> hahaha yes, i know noone can guarantee it ...
[18:38] <xubuntu652> this is just a test box i got so i will definetly try that
[18:38] <holstein> well, intel could... and they do OK.. but i dont think you will get them to comment on the exact issue
[18:38] <xubuntu652> ahahah ok! thank you very much for your help :)!
[18:39] <xubuntu652> i guess it will be a long afternoon ;)
[18:41] <alllexa> where to download xubuntu 12.10 from?
[18:41] <holstein> xubuntu652: good luck.. its a pretty quick day at 1024x768 :)
[18:41] <holstein> alllexa: i would get 13.04
[18:41] <holstein> !install
[18:42] <holstein> alllexa: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/quantal/release/ is found by searching "download xubuntu 12.10" in google
[18:43] <alllexa> Thanks
[18:43] <alllexa> I wanted to be sure it's secure.
[18:44] <holstein> alllexa: sure what is secure?
[18:44] <holstein> there are md5 sums for all of them..
[18:44] <holstein> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/raring/release/ for example for 13.04
[18:48] <alllexa> like I know what the md5 sum is :(
[18:51] <holstein> !volunteers | alllexa
[18:51] <holstein> !md5 | alllexa
[18:52] <holstein> alllexa: the md5 sum is a way to be sure what you are downloading is what you think it is.. one way to confirm the security of that download
[19:03] <i3luefire_> ok. i am having a problem where the computer locks up because there are too many windows and programs running because the last time i shutdown i didnt close everything. so i need to know how to tell xfce to forget about opening up the stuff i left open.
[19:05] <well_laid_lawn> save the session with nothing open
[19:05] <i3luefire_> also i end up having to type startx everytime i start the machine... i get stuck at the xubuntu loading screen and when i hit escape it shows the last thing being started is pwrstatd so then i hit ctrl+alt+f2 to type startx
[19:06] <i3luefire_> well_laid_lawn, that would be a good solution to prevent this from happening again but what do i do now?
[19:06] <well_laid_lawn> what do you mean?
[19:07] <well_laid_lawn> save the session with nothing open - log out - log in
[19:07] <holstein> i3luefire_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1816037
[19:07] <i3luefire_> i cant get into xfce fully because when i do it starts it is opening all of the stuff from the previous session. i cant log out
[19:07] <holstein> well_laid_lawn: i think the issue is that i3luefire_ cant get in to save anything
[19:08] <i3luefire_> holstein, yes that is it
[19:08] <holstein> "by deleting the ~/.cache/sessions directory" i3luefire_
[19:08] <alllexa> holstein, my apologie
[19:08] <alllexa> I'm sorry. I'm volunteer, too.
[19:08] <alllexa> have to go
[19:08] <alllexa> thanks!
[19:08] <alllexa> bye!
[19:08] <holstein> alllexa: cheers!
[19:10] <i3luefire_> that fixed it holstein
[19:11] <i3luefire_> does the fix at the top of the forum poste keep it from not happening again tho?
[19:11] <holstein> i3luefire_: i would do well_laid_lawn 's suggestion so it doesnt happen again :)
[19:11] <i3luefire_> yes
[19:11] <i3luefire_> that too
[20:25] <tich> hi. i am trying to get minecraft running for my son how do i make a file executable in thunar?
[20:26] <Sysi> right click -> properties -> permissions
[20:26] <Sysi> should be it
[20:27] <surfdaemon> also chmod?
[20:29] <tich> it isn't there. i can choose access for different users and i expected a little checkbox at the bottom but it didnt exist
[20:30] <Sysi> what xubuntu version?
[20:30] <surfdaemon> not on mine either, i'm 13.10
[20:31] <Sysi> well, you can right click -> open terminal -> chmod +x file.jar
[20:31] <tich> looks like 4.10
[20:31] <tich> oh 4.10 is the xfce version
[20:31] <Sysi> I haven't tried 13.04 yet, didn't try that on 12.10
[20:32] <surfdaemon> *.04, idk what month or year this is
[22:04] <GeneralShenaniga> Anybody know if/when the 13.04 alternate ISO will be released?
[23:36] <dark_djinn> ok, i have an ubuntu server vps...root was enabled
[23:36] <dark_djinn> i want to revert to sudo functionality...
[23:36] <dark_djinn> what commands can i run to add a user, make them sudo-able, then disable root?
[23:40] <[0gb_us]> I'm having an issue with Xubuntu 12.04.2 LTS. When I log into a Xubuntu session, I  cannot dim my screen. However, I CAN dim the screen when I log into an Ubuntu session. I've tried editing the GRUB settings as several web sites have said to do, but that doesn't fix the error in Xubuntu. In fact, it actually breaks that functionality in Ubuntu. Do you know of anything else I can try?