[06:11] good morning all [07:22] good morning [07:54] Morning. [07:56] hey popey [08:06] dpm, hi Alter [08:06] dpm, kurz Zeit für 'nen Hangout? [09:04] dpm, unping - seb128 gave me the details [09:22] ok, alles klar :) [09:38] do we know how often status.u.c is updated? [10:46] dholbach, I don't know, it used to be hourly quite a while ago, but I'm not sure nowadays. cjohnston should know ^ [10:46] yeah, it's fine [10:46] I still had to approve them, not only set the series goal === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [14:07] i think every two hours [14:12] dpm, if the "core apps" are "core apps", how do we call the other apps, like "gallery"? :) [14:13] dholbach, we've been vaguely calling them "system apps" [14:13] yup [14:13] ok [14:13] we should rename them again ☻ [14:14] * dpm has run out of names ;) [14:14] because we realised during the uds session, that the super project (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview) wasn't documented anywhere [14:14] and I just added it to Touch/Contribute [14:14] maybe it'd be worth mentioning it on the Core Apps page too - just to make sure people know where to check for "those other apps"? :) [14:16] HI POPEY [14:16] HELLO JORGE! [14:17] dholbach, there is a link here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute but we could probably do a better job [14:17] dpm, yeah, I just made a few edits [14:17] on the /Contribute page [14:18] hey jono [14:18] hey dholbach [14:19] jono, having a good time off? :) [14:19] dholbach, yes indeed [14:19] awesome seeing my parents [14:19] great :) [14:19] :-) [14:20] dholbach, looks like the c.u.c site is really coming together [14:20] yeah, we're getting there [14:20] dholbach, one general piece of feedback I have though is that there is too much text [14:20] it needs making more concise [14:20] yeah, that's the hardest part :) [14:21] but I realise that we have a few walls of text [14:21] dholbach, as an example, below the birds on the main page [14:21] that should be moved to other pages [14:21] is an example site up somewhere? [14:21] jcastro, http://91.189.93.108/ [14:21] jono, thanks - I'll take care of it [14:21] maybe pics where the whitespace is? [14:22] of people/locos doing cool stuff? [14:22] dholbach, cool [14:22] jcastro, yes, that's planned [14:22] pleia2 is looking for some nice pictures [14:22] dholbach, also, we may want to break up http://91.189.93.108/contribute/developers/ [14:22] can we have sub-nav pages? [14:22] oh, nice pic on that one [14:22] so you click Developers and then there are sub-pages with Packaging, Programming, and Porting [14:22] ? [14:22] jono, yes, I think that should be possible somehow, but I need to find out how [14:22] that wouild be neater [14:22] other than Jos staring out into space for no reason, lol. [14:23] and then the main Developers page can just provide a single paragraph overview of Packaging, Programming, and Porting and then link to the sub-pages [14:23] right [14:23] dholbach: also on that page it says JuJu, it's either juju or Juju, never the camelcase [14:23] dholbach, I think that will be much neater and easier to read [14:23] thanks dholbach [14:23] dholbach, are you wanting feedback as filed bugs? [14:24] jono, in the future yes, for now, we can just use http://pad.ubuntu.com/aNBBojgxJg [14:24] dholbach: actually, can I redo the little Juju section? [14:24] * jcastro finds it on lp [14:24] jcastro, please do - do you want the markdown text for it? [14:24] is it on lp? [14:25] thanks dholbach [14:25] jcastro, it's a wordpress site [14:25] oh oh [14:25] well, I can either do the raw text or edit it right in, up to you [14:25] jcastro, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5710352/ [14:26] jono, thanks - I noted it all down and will take care of it [14:26] thanks dholbach [14:26] jono, oh, and I moved in here for my office now: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SbmdEeQRHk0/UaOmxi7tSpI/AAAAAAAAFUc/LWFkIUBOKZw/w1044-h434-no/IMAG0472.jpg :-) [14:26] all happy Ubuntu users, although I saw a machine running windows [14:26] dholbach, oh nice! :-) [14:26] that looks sweet [14:27] yeah, working together with friends who also work in open source [14:27] I'd show you guys around in a hangout, but I'm tied to ethernet right now as somebody is still figuring out the access point :) [14:29] dholbach: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5710362/ [14:29] dholbach: I wanted to outline the "any language" aspect [14:29] since that's huge for new contributors [14:29] no need to learn a new language! [14:29] jcastro, updated [14:29] thanks === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === cjohnston_ is now known as cjohnston [15:56] Good morning [16:04] all rightie - see you tomorrow! === jono is now known as Guest93857 [17:27] bkerensa: rackspace's cloud isn't close enough to trunk openstack [17:27] but when it is, it'll be an easy config [17:28] someone is trying it right now === glebihan__ is now known as glebihan [17:44] ok, finally calling it a day, see you all tomorrow! [21:27] anyone around? [21:33] yes [21:39] no [21:39] no [21:46] no [21:49] http://15.185.233.27/ [21:50] so .... [21:50] no DNS yet [21:50] but TLDR [21:50] I'm kicking the tires on discourse [21:53] I recognise that ip space [21:53] (is that sad?) [21:53] HP CLOUD [21:53] NICE WORK. [21:53] haha [21:53] spinning shit up on openstack <--- never gets old [21:53] create topic button doesn't work in the categories view [21:53] jcastro: truth [21:53] that's because you can't create a topic there [21:54] popey: also, we're running trunk lol [21:54] interesting bug [21:56] popey: reported against upstream [21:56] What are we discorsing? [21:56] hey so I think this is way better than vbulletin [21:56] so we set one up [21:56] going to let the community kick the tires [21:56] and see where it goes [21:56] I like it better already.. feels current [21:57] don't post/tweet it yet [21:57] I need a real domain name [21:57] so waiting on IS for that [21:57] so likely tomorrow [21:57] good luck [21:57] I've got responses already and ready to go [21:57] cool [21:58] not my fault you can't talk to IS. :p [21:58] do you guys want to post a few example topics? Get a feel for it? [21:58] so others can respond etc? [21:58] * popey creates http://15.185.233.27/t/what-generic-apps-should-ubuntu-phone-ship-with/15 [21:59] to see what happens when people reply [21:59] and to try formatting [21:59] markdown baby [21:59] aquarius: ping [21:59] is mail from that box working? [21:59] (no) [21:59] lol cloud and SMTP [21:59] the great challenge [22:00] it *should* be [22:00] i changed my email address and it sent me a notification [22:00] not got it yet [22:01] * marcoceppi pokes [22:03] popey: a precursory scan of the CSS tells me we could make this look real nice design wise [22:05] restarting discourse to fix email [22:06] hah nginx [22:06] marcoceppi: you know IS's want apache [22:07] jcastro: I know :( It's on my short list for charm todos [22:07] it'll be a config option like in the WP charm [22:10] marcoceppi: just got sluggish [22:10] jcastro: it's restarting (again) [22:10] upgrade-charm, the double-edged sword [22:10] scumbag ruby [22:10] takes too long [22:11] should be the last restart for a while [22:12] Sorry, new users can't put images in posts. [22:12] when I try to post a SS [22:15] popey: emailing fixed, thanks for the heads up [22:15] jcastro: I'll poke at the options. Should be configurable [22:16] marcoceppi: oh, I went from mod to new user [22:16] there's probably some post threshold [22:16] jcastro: yeah, there's a "newuser_max_images" which was 0. Increased that [22:17] pleia2: wanna post something? [22:17] "HOLY CRAP HP CLOUD" or somesuch? [22:17] marcoceppi: still no mails arriving [22:17] well sure [22:17] popey: You might have to wait a few, not sure when the retry will be [22:18] i tried changing again to force a new mail [22:19] no one noticed the amazing ubuntu SSO integration? [22:20] it was pretty smooth [22:20] well done [22:22] that was all marcoceppi [22:22] pleia2: did you upload a picture or was all that automagic? [22:23] it uses gravatar doesnt it? [22:23] which for me fails because I used login.ubuntu.com which uses my canonical address which has no piccy [22:23] so i tried to change address to popey which does [22:23] jcastro: automagic [22:23] hence email fail [22:23] popey: that sounds fixable [22:23] popey: must do, it's not my lp photo [22:24] popey: It shows as sending and email 7 mins ago. You might need to check spam [22:25] ah, my bad, I have 3 mails in spam ⍨ [22:25] sorry [22:25] popey: yeah, it's just using sendmail, aka sendspam, I'll hook it up to a real smtp server later [22:25] are they blah@ipaddress? [22:25] those are probably spamfilterable [22:25] in real life they'd come from real domains [22:25] jcastro: "info@discourse.org" [22:25] info@discourse.org [22:25] stay classy defaults [22:26] marcoceppi: way snappier since we tested it last [22:26] did you deploy the redis stuff? [22:27] jcastro: no, this is just an xsmall [22:27] If we need to scale, I'll throw in the redis server. Otherwise it just runs redis on the local unit === nigelb_ is now known as nigelb [22:30] popey: your gravatar works again [22:31] yeah [22:31] sweet! [22:32] popey: I'm going to do a mention [22:32] lmk how it works [22:33] popey: hah, Mark's posted [22:33] how'd he find it? [22:33] I mailed him [22:33] ah [22:33] anything juju deployed is pretty much always in his face. [22:34] marcoceppi: http://15.185.233.27/t/ubuntu-forums-moderators-click-here/3/4 [22:35] jcastro: hum, it's be an out-of-scope change that upstream probably would never use, but I think I could hack that in [22:36] don't tell me post it [22:36] I am [22:52] jcastro: can you flag something? [22:53] ok [23:07] marcoceppi: can you increase the maximum filesize to upload a bit? [23:07] 5MB? Also we should just use imgur and get an API key [23:07] sure [23:07] eventually [23:07] jcastro: that'll make scaleout story solid [23:07] nod [23:07] assets always trip people up [23:07] put that in the scaleout post [23:07] * marcoceppi nods [23:09] 5mb is fine for now for uploads [23:09] I want to exercise this screenshot thread [23:09] oh [23:09] let me flag something [23:10] jcastro: increased [23:15] still says 1024k [23:15] needs a restart? [23:16] marcoceppi: ^^ [23:17] jcastro: I hope not. I hate restarting the discourse stuff [23:17] * marcoceppi pokes [23:20] marcoceppi: still nogo on the upload [23:20] jcastro: let me finish this post and I'll restart discourse [23:20] ack [23:21] oh cute [23:21] when you scroll the title turns into an ubuntu logo [23:22] jcastro: yeah, it was the discourse logo, but I've been going around updating them as I find them. The favicon is now ubuntu as well [23:23] badass [23:25] jcastro: bouncing [23:25] * jcastro makes explosion sounds [23:26] I might drop a cuter 502 error page [23:27] does this nginx have the spdy support? [23:27] no, it's what's in archives [23:28] jcastro: I've also changed the automated message user. auto-messages will now come from "ubuntubot" instead of me [23:31] eggcerrent [23:34] marcoceppi: think I found a bug [23:34] my screenshots are like 1.5mb [23:34] but discourse thinks they're over 5mb [23:34] It might be nginx [23:34] let me check [23:36] jcastro: try now [23:37] Works! [23:37] yeah, it was nginx [23:37] * marcoceppi updates charm