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Davieyhola16:00
yolandahi16:01
Davieyzul: I think yo are chair this week?16:01
zulwas i?16:01
Davieyadam_g didn't update the rota, and james is absent.16:01
zul*sigh*16:02
zulok lets start then16:02
zul@startmeeting16:02
meetingologyzul: Error: "startmeeting" is not a valid command.16:02
zuloops16:02
zulwhos here for the meeting?16:02
Davieyo/16:02
adam_go/16:03
Daviey?  #-startmeeting16:03
zul#startmeeting16:03
meetingologyMeeting started Tue May 28 16:03:13 2013 UTC.  The chair is zul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:03
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zulhi16:03
zulso lets do this16:03
zul#meetingtopic Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:03
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zularosales: around?16:03
zulif not move on to smoser16:04
zulsmoser: around?16:04
zul#meetingtopic moser to reach out to juju-core and discuss what integration with ubuntu image meta data can be done for Raring.16:04
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zulsmoser?16:04
zulawesome:16:04
zul#meetingtopic Saucy Development16:05
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zulDaviey do you want to take this part?16:05
smosersmoser here....16:05
zulah smoser you are late16:05
* smoser can run meeting.16:05
smoseris that what the question was ?16:06
zulnope that action that was carried forward from the last meeting16:06
zulsmoser: did you reach out to juju-core and discuss the integration16:06
smoserthat was supposed to be marked done.16:06
zulah ok ill updat it then16:07
zulsmoser: can you run the Saucy development section as well?16:07
smoserum... sure.16:07
smosersaucy development..16:07
smoserwe had asked that blueprints be put in working order by last friday.16:07
zulsmoser: and i take that was done right?16:08
smoserso if you haven't got yours into a sane state, and set them to 'Review', please do that.16:08
smoser"like now"16:08
smoser(/me and many others are still delenquent)16:08
Davieysmoser: fancy sending a reminder to ubuntu-server ML?16:09
smoserDaviey, i can do that.16:09
Davieysmoser, jamespage and myself starting reviewing on Thursday.. and they were still kinda rough at that point16:09
smoserthats the biggest thing for saucy development16:09
DavieyWe are doing another pass tomorrow16:09
smoserhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/~davewalker/+specs?role=approver16:09
smoserif you have blueprints you're planning on working on in 13.10, they should be on that list, and start woith 'servercloud-s'16:10
smoserand if you have work that you are expecting to do in Ubuntu that is *not* on that list, then ideally you'd get it covered.16:10
smoseri think that is all.16:10
zulok cool16:11
zul#meetingtopic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:11
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zulany upcoming events?16:11
zulODS is a long way off16:11
DavieyNone that i know of.16:11
zulis our social coordinator here? jcastro?16:11
DavieyI think we have almost a month of no travel?16:11
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yolandaonly a month?16:12
zulenough time to pack16:12
zulmoving on?16:12
zul#meetingtopic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)16:13
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zulhi plars16:13
plarsHi16:13
zulanything to bring up?16:13
plarsMain thing for today is that server images from yesterday work, but not today's16:13
plarsit's under investigation16:13
plarshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1185053 is the bug16:13
Davieyplars: hmm, any detail?16:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1185053 in systemd (Ubuntu Saucy) "Saucy server images do not boot for 20130528" [Critical,Triaged]16:13
Davieyah16:13
plarsif pitti is correct, the fix might already exist for it16:14
plarsfingers crossed16:14
zulsince when do we have systemd?16:14
utlemmingfwiw, the cloud images for today do boot16:15
Davieysince it rudely swallowed up udev.16:15
plarsit's not in the manifest though, is that just the source package?16:15
zulah16:15
* zul shakes his fist16:15
zulanything for plars/16:15
smbThink the boot issue might be solved soon16:16
Davieyplars: thanks for the headsup16:16
plarsyup16:16
zulok next16:16
zul#meetingtopic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)16:17
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zulhi smb16:17
smbHeya16:17
DavieyHow is our lovely kernel?16:17
zulany updates?16:17
smbDon't have much (beside fun with saucy too) not kernel , though16:17
Davieysmb: How is our xen looking?16:17
smbWe might get some stable updates if I ever convince relevant aa's16:18
zuloooOOOO16:18
zulanything else?16:18
smbErrr hmmm...16:19
smbcannot remember. :)16:19
zulgood enough for me16:19
zul#meetingtopic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)16:19
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zulrbasak around?16:19
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zuli guess he aint here16:20
Davieysmb: SRU bug?16:20
smbhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen/+bug/118039616:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1180396 in xen (Ubuntu) "Xen stable update to 4.1.5" [Low,In progress]16:21
smbhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen/+bug/118039716:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1180397 in xen (Ubuntu) "Xen stable update to 4.2.2" [Low,In progress]16:21
Davieysmb: a decent upstream changelog would really help16:22
smbDaviey, In the debdiffs16:22
smbIt is a bit ... err ... long16:23
Davieysmb: this might need TechBoard involvement16:23
zul#action smb to go to tech board for xen sru16:24
meetingologyACTION: smb to go to tech board for xen sru16:24
zul#meetingtopic open discussion16:24
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zulanything else to bring up/16:24
smbDaviey, action for you to explain me how to get there :)16:25
Davieysmb: ack16:26
zulif no one has anything else same time next week16:26
TheLordOfTimezul:  pulled in from last meeting, we had a brief discussion about nginx and inclusion in main and as an option on the images.  i FORGOT last week to email the ubuntu-server ML about it, and am doing that now.  Just a brief point I wanted to mention, so the people who are here and would like to comment on the discussion are aware I'm sending out the email.16:26
Davieythanks zul16:26
DavieyTheLordOfTime: Looking forward to that thread16:27
zulTheLordOfTime : ack16:27
zul#endmeeting16:27
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue May 28 16:27:19 2013 UTC.16:27
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TheLordOfTimeDaviey:  i'm just starting the discussion, not arguing points for/against it.16:27
* TheLordOfTime is equally split on the idea of inclusion in main16:28
jsalisbury#startmeeting17:00
jsalisbury##17:00
meetingologyMeeting started Tue May 28 17:00:28 2013 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.17:00
jsalisbury## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.17:00
jsalisbury##17:00
jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting17:00
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jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/saucy17:00
jsalisbury# Meeting Etiquette17:00
jsalisbury#17:00
jsalisbury# NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.17:00
jsalisbury#       'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized)17:00
jsalisburyRoll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting17:00
ppisatio/17:00
ckingo/17:00
henrixo/17:00
apwo/17:00
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jsalisbury[TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)17:01
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ppisatiQ/master: lp1176977 ("XFS instability on armhf under load") - cherry picked two17:01
ppisatimore patches that address the free space fragmentation: the resulting kernel17:01
ppisatipasses all tests so far, i'm waiting for user feedback and one last batch of17:01
ppisatitests.17:01
ppisati*/highbank: lp1182637("cpu_offlining fails to run on ARM") - all the highbanks kernel that17:01
ppisatiwe released so far are affected by this - basically, you can offline a cpu but17:01
ppisatiwhen you try to put it back, reinsetion fails and the only way to get the cpu back17:01
ppisatiis to reboot. Debugged till the point the cpu is plugged back, but it never really17:01
ppisatistarts and pick up the idle thread - i'll probably need to do a comparison17:01
ppisatibetween the boot environment (when the cpu are added to the system via the same17:01
ppisatimechanism) and this scenario.17:01
ppisati..17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)17:02
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jsalisburyRelease metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:17:02
jsalisbury[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt17:02
jsalisbury..17:02
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)17:02
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ogasawara[LINK] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-distro-team/+upcomingwork17:02
ogasawara[LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html17:02
ogasawaraI'm still working on cleaning up our team's set of work items and17:02
ogasawaragetting monthly goals properly refelcted in the blueprints.17:02
ogasawara..17:02
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Saucy Development Kernel (ogasawara)17:03
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ogasawaraOur Saucy unstable branch has been rebased to the latest v3.10-rc317:03
ogasawaraupstream kernel.  Saucy master-next is currently at v3.9.3.  I17:03
ogasawaraanticipate we'll cut over to v3.10 around the -rc4 time frame.17:03
ogasawaraOn the phablet side, we now have Ubuntu kernels in the archive for the17:03
ogasawaraNexus 4, 7, 10, and Galaxy Nexus devices.  We also anticipate an17:03
ogasawaraAppArmor pull request next week from the security team to get the latest17:03
ogasawaraAppArmor patches into these kernels.17:03
ogasawaraImportant upcoming dates:17:03
ogasawaraThurs June 20 - Alpha 1 (opt in)17:03
ogasawara..17:03
* rtg is going to upload v3.9.4 saucy today17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)17:03
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sconklin== 2013-05-28 (7 days) ==17:04
sconklinCurrently we have 63 CVEs on our radar, with 0 CVEs added and 0 CVEs retired in the last week.17:04
sconklinSee the CVE matrix for the current list:17:04
sconklin[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html17:04
sconklinOverall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:17:04
sconklin[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt17:04
sconklin[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt17:04
sconklin..17:04
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Raring/Quantal/Precise/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/henrix/sconklin)17:04
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sconklinStatus for the main kernels, until today (May. 28):17:04
sconklin*   Lucid - In Prep;17:04
sconklin* Precise - In Prep;17:04
sconklin* Quantal - In Prep;17:04
sconklin* Raring  - In Prep;17:04
sconklinCurrent opened tracking bugs details:17:04
sconklin* http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html17:04
sconklinFor SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:17:04
sconklin* http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html17:04
sconklinFuture stable cadence cycles:17:05
sconklin* https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseInterlock17:05
sconklin..17:05
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)17:05
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jsalisburyThanks everyone17:06
jsalisbury#endmeeting17:06
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue May 28 17:06:12 2013 UTC.17:06
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kamalthanks jsalisbury17:06
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