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[16:00] <Daviey> hola
[16:01] <yolanda> hi
[16:01] <Daviey> zul: I think yo are chair this week?
[16:01] <zul> was i?
[16:01] <Daviey> adam_g didn't update the rota, and james is absent.
[16:02] <zul> *sigh*
[16:02] <zul> ok lets start then
[16:02] <zul> @startmeeting
[16:02] <meetingology> zul: Error: "startmeeting" is not a valid command.
[16:02] <zul> oops
[16:02] <zul> whos here for the meeting?
[16:02] <Daviey> o/
[16:03] <adam_g> o/
[16:03] <Daviey> ?  #-startmeeting
[16:03] <zul> #startmeeting
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[16:03] <zul> hi
[16:03] <zul> so lets do this
[16:03] <zul> #meetingtopic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
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[16:03] <zul> arosales: around?
[16:04] <zul> if not move on to smoser
[16:04] <zul> smoser: around?
[16:04] <zul> #meetingtopic moser to reach out to juju-core and discuss what integration with ubuntu image meta data can be done for Raring.
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[16:04] <zul> smoser?
[16:04] <zul> awesome:
[16:05] <zul> #meetingtopic Saucy Development
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[16:05] <zul> Daviey do you want to take this part?
[16:05] <smoser> smoser here....
[16:05] <zul> ah smoser you are late
[16:05]  * smoser can run meeting.
[16:06] <smoser> is that what the question was ?
[16:06] <zul> nope that action that was carried forward from the last meeting
[16:06] <zul> smoser: did you reach out to juju-core and discuss the integration
[16:06] <smoser> that was supposed to be marked done.
[16:07] <zul> ah ok ill updat it then
[16:07] <zul> smoser: can you run the Saucy development section as well?
[16:07] <smoser> um... sure.
[16:07] <smoser> saucy development..
[16:07] <smoser> we had asked that blueprints be put in working order by last friday.
[16:08] <zul> smoser: and i take that was done right?
[16:08] <smoser> so if you haven't got yours into a sane state, and set them to 'Review', please do that.
[16:08] <smoser> "like now"
[16:08] <smoser> (/me and many others are still delenquent)
[16:09] <Daviey> smoser: fancy sending a reminder to ubuntu-server ML?
[16:09] <smoser> Daviey, i can do that.
[16:09] <Daviey> smoser, jamespage and myself starting reviewing on Thursday.. and they were still kinda rough at that point
[16:09] <smoser> thats the biggest thing for saucy development
[16:09] <Daviey> We are doing another pass tomorrow
[16:09] <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~davewalker/+specs?role=approver
[16:10] <smoser> if you have blueprints you're planning on working on in 13.10, they should be on that list, and start woith 'servercloud-s'
[16:10] <smoser> and if you have work that you are expecting to do in Ubuntu that is *not* on that list, then ideally you'd get it covered.
[16:10] <smoser> i think that is all.
[16:11] <zul> ok cool
[16:11] <zul> #meetingtopic Ubuntu Server Team Events
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[16:11] <zul> any upcoming events?
[16:11] <zul> ODS is a long way off
[16:11] <Daviey> None that i know of.
[16:11] <zul> is our social coordinator here? jcastro?
[16:11] <Daviey> I think we have almost a month of no travel?
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[16:12] <yolanda> only a month?
[16:12] <zul> enough time to pack
[16:12] <zul> moving on?
[16:13] <zul> #meetingtopic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)
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[16:13] <zul> hi plars
[16:13] <plars> Hi
[16:13] <zul> anything to bring up?
[16:13] <plars> Main thing for today is that server images from yesterday work, but not today's
[16:13] <plars> it's under investigation
[16:13] <plars> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1185053 is the bug
[16:13] <Daviey> plars: hmm, any detail?
[16:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1185053 in systemd (Ubuntu Saucy) "Saucy server images do not boot for 20130528" [Critical,Triaged]
[16:13] <Daviey> ah
[16:14] <plars> if pitti is correct, the fix might already exist for it
[16:14] <plars> fingers crossed
[16:14] <zul> since when do we have systemd?
[16:15] <utlemming> fwiw, the cloud images for today do boot
[16:15] <Daviey> since it rudely swallowed up udev.
[16:15] <plars> it's not in the manifest though, is that just the source package?
[16:15] <zul> ah
[16:15]  * zul shakes his fist
[16:15] <zul> anything for plars/
[16:16] <smb> Think the boot issue might be solved soon
[16:16] <Daviey> plars: thanks for the headsup
[16:16] <plars> yup
[16:16] <zul> ok next
[16:17] <zul> #meetingtopic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
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[16:17] <zul> hi smb
[16:17] <smb> Heya
[16:17] <Daviey> How is our lovely kernel?
[16:17] <zul> any updates?
[16:17] <smb> Don't have much (beside fun with saucy too) not kernel , though
[16:17] <Daviey> smb: How is our xen looking?
[16:18] <smb> We might get some stable updates if I ever convince relevant aa's
[16:18] <zul> oooOOOO
[16:18] <zul> anything else?
[16:19] <smb> Errr hmmm...
[16:19] <smb> cannot remember. :)
[16:19] <zul> good enough for me
[16:19] <zul> #meetingtopic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
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[16:19] <zul> rbasak around?
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[16:20] <zul> i guess he aint here
[16:20] <Daviey> smb: SRU bug?
[16:21] <smb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen/+bug/1180396
[16:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1180396 in xen (Ubuntu) "Xen stable update to 4.1.5" [Low,In progress]
[16:21] <smb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen/+bug/1180397
[16:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1180397 in xen (Ubuntu) "Xen stable update to 4.2.2" [Low,In progress]
[16:22] <Daviey> smb: a decent upstream changelog would really help
[16:22] <smb> Daviey, In the debdiffs
[16:23] <smb> It is a bit ... err ... long
[16:23] <Daviey> smb: this might need TechBoard involvement
[16:24] <zul> #action smb to go to tech board for xen sru
[16:24] <meetingology> ACTION: smb to go to tech board for xen sru
[16:24] <zul> #meetingtopic open discussion
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[16:24] <zul> anything else to bring up/
[16:25] <smb> Daviey, action for you to explain me how to get there :)
[16:26] <Daviey> smb: ack
[16:26] <zul> if no one has anything else same time next week
[16:26] <TheLordOfTime> zul:  pulled in from last meeting, we had a brief discussion about nginx and inclusion in main and as an option on the images.  i FORGOT last week to email the ubuntu-server ML about it, and am doing that now.  Just a brief point I wanted to mention, so the people who are here and would like to comment on the discussion are aware I'm sending out the email.
[16:26] <Daviey> thanks zul
[16:27] <Daviey> TheLordOfTime: Looking forward to that thread
[16:27] <zul> TheLordOfTime : ack
[16:27] <zul> #endmeeting
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[16:27] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue May 28 16:27:19 2013 UTC.
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[16:27] <TheLordOfTime> Daviey:  i'm just starting the discussion, not arguing points for/against it.
[16:28]  * TheLordOfTime is equally split on the idea of inclusion in main
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue May 28 17:00:28 2013 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/saucy
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:00] <cking> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <apw> o/
[17:00] <bjf> o/
[17:01] <ogasawara> o/
[17:01] <rtg> o/
[17:01] <sconklin> o/
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
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[17:01] <ppisati> Q/master: lp1176977 ("XFS instability on armhf under load") - cherry picked two
[17:01] <ppisati> more patches that address the free space fragmentation: the resulting kernel
[17:01] <ppisati> passes all tests so far, i'm waiting for user feedback and one last batch of
[17:01] <ppisati> tests.
[17:01] <ppisati> */highbank: lp1182637("cpu_offlining fails to run on ARM") - all the highbanks kernel that
[17:01] <ppisati> we released so far are affected by this - basically, you can offline a cpu but
[17:01] <ppisati> when you try to put it back, reinsetion fails and the only way to get the cpu back
[17:01] <ppisati> is to reboot. Debugged till the point the cpu is plugged back, but it never really
[17:01] <ppisati> starts and pick up the idle thread - i'll probably need to do a comparison
[17:01] <ppisati> between the boot environment (when the cpu are added to the system via the same
[17:01] <ppisati> mechanism) and this scenario.
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
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[17:02] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
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[17:02] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-distro-team/+upcomingwork
[17:02] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html
[17:02] <ogasawara> I'm still working on cleaning up our team's set of work items and
[17:02] <ogasawara> getting monthly goals properly refelcted in the blueprints.
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Saucy Development Kernel (ogasawara)
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[17:03] <ogasawara> Our Saucy unstable branch has been rebased to the latest v3.10-rc3
[17:03] <ogasawara> upstream kernel.  Saucy master-next is currently at v3.9.3.  I
[17:03] <ogasawara> anticipate we'll cut over to v3.10 around the -rc4 time frame.
[17:03] <ogasawara> On the phablet side, we now have Ubuntu kernels in the archive for the
[17:03] <ogasawara> Nexus 4, 7, 10, and Galaxy Nexus devices.  We also anticipate an
[17:03] <ogasawara> AppArmor pull request next week from the security team to get the latest
[17:03] <ogasawara> AppArmor patches into these kernels.
[17:03] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:03] <ogasawara> Thurs June 20 - Alpha 1 (opt in)
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03]  * rtg is going to upload v3.9.4 saucy today
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)
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[17:04] <sconklin> == 2013-05-28 (7 days) ==
[17:04] <sconklin> Currently we have 63 CVEs on our radar, with 0 CVEs added and 0 CVEs retired in the last week.
[17:04] <sconklin> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:04] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:04] <sconklin> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:04] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:04] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:04] <sconklin> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Raring/Quantal/Precise/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/henrix/sconklin)
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[17:04] <sconklin> Status for the main kernels, until today (May. 28):
[17:04] <sconklin> *   Lucid - In Prep;
[17:04] <sconklin> * Precise - In Prep;
[17:04] <sconklin> * Quantal - In Prep;
[17:04] <sconklin> * Raring  - In Prep;
[17:04] <sconklin> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:04] <sconklin> * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:04] <sconklin> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:04] <sconklin> * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:05] <sconklin> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:05] <sconklin> * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseInterlock
[17:05] <sconklin> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
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[17:06] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:06] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
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[17:06] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue May 28 17:06:12 2013 UTC.
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[17:06] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury
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[22:02] <Mafia_Alb> eeeyyy
[22:02] <Mafia_Alb> :*
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