/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/05/28/#ubuntu-ops.txt

DJonesMorning08:23
DJonesI wonder whether horrorxstory  in #u is HFSplus/FearTheLOrd etc both comcast hosts15:37
bazhangboth are trolls wfm15:37
MyrttiI thought FTL came from ma, not mi15:37
Myrttiyeah15:37
Myrttidifference there15:37
DJonesYeah, you're right with that15:38
DJonesAh well15:38
MyrttiI have to say I'm truly ashamed of my good memory in these things15:38
Myrttiso much wasted brain power15:38
DJonesMyrtti: Something I was wondering before was a ban on the .myvzw.com address, could you have a look at the following to see if its possible15:39
DJonesWould it be possible to set a ban on *!*@*.sub-174*.myvzw.com  I wasn't sure if you can set a ban with widlcard within it15:39
DJonesWould it be possible to set a ban on *!*@*.sub-174*.myvzw.com  I wasn't sure if you can set a ban with widlcard within it and the sub-174 and myvzw.com appear to be the only consistent parts of the hostname and there doesn't appear to be any other users coming from the sub-174 range of addresses15:40
DJonesThis is the one that keeps picking users in #u and then pm'ing obscene/racist/offensive comments15:40
MyrttiAFAIK you can15:41
MyrttiI might be wrong though15:41
DJonesAnybody you'd recommend querying that with15:42
DJoneserry looks to be online15:43
Myrttiwell I'm sure someone will smite me for giving you wrong information if I'm wrong15:43
DJonesHeh15:43
Myrttiis it really that urgent? you could just set a +q for that hostmask and see if it takes hold15:44
DJonesThats true, i'll give that a go15:44
Myrttibesides it's a wide ban anyway so I'd recommend a mute in any case15:44
DJonesThanks for the advice15:44
Myrttior a banforward to this/some other channel15:44
bazhangyeah he wants to poll15:45
DJonesok, set +q on that address to see if it works15:46
bazhanga webui to use something remotely? thought that meant ssh15:51
bazhangwhoa annoying17:33
bazhanghe's playing eleventh dimension chess!17:35
* Pici snerks17:36
bazhangI pretty much lost interest after that wall 'o text17:40
bazhangwubi and mixing in debian repos! what could go wrong17:49
IdleOneiirc the idea of creating a more "leet" channel has been discussed and denied, there are -dev channels for those users who wish to dig deeper and get help with doing development. IMO creating such a channel would be splitting the community and helpers.18:23
bazhang<n0yd> Actually, thats a great name, #ubuntu-advanced.18:24
bazhangbwhahahahahaNOWAY18:24
bazhanghe insulted every single helper, and now wants his own advanced channel18:24
IdleOneTopic for #ubuntu-advanced: All noobs go to #ubuntu.18:25
IdleOne</sarcasm>18:25
IdleOneAnyway, it is a bad idea and will only create a divide in the IRC community which is exactly what we don't want.18:25
bazhangbug: confirmed; released ∞ +118:26
DJonesIdleOne: +1 Although I don't think the regular helpers would abandon #u, however I don't think a 'new user' would understand the difference between basic and advanced questions, from their point of view, everything could well be advanced & they'd just ask in the advanced channel18:26
bazhanghe was so elite that he was doing the glib versions from memory, and badly misremembering them18:27
IdleOneDJones: exactly, ops would waste time explaining, yeah you're problem is a valid one but not important enough for us to bother with. Plz2go to the not-so-leet channel.18:27
bazhangmore like needs a #ubuntu-alzheimers18:27
DJonesI guess 'technically' #ubuntu is the advanced channel given that there is #ubuntu-beginners18:28
jbroomeyikes18:28
bazhangeliminate the !crosspost factoid forthwith18:28
PiciJust because we might disagree with it doesn't make it a bad idea that we should strike out immediately.18:28
IdleOne-beginners is a team channel and not specifically for support. They do some support but that isn't the purpose.18:29
bazhangit's a bad idea18:29
IdleOnePici: It might be worth revisiting. I suspect it will not pass anymore then it did the last time this was brought up.18:29
bazhangit's been proposed since forever18:30
IdleOneJust wanted to make sure I voiced my opinion on it.18:31
DJonesThe idea does have merit, for example the question about ZFS that ThePendulum was asking about yesterday - that probably took a couple of hours for somebody to go through, so a less busy channel for a complex issue would probably be more useful18:31
bazhangn0yd had an issue that was not *that* complex, but simply refused to answer any questions of the five or so first helpers18:31
IdleOneI'm not a noob. We are not mind readers.18:32
bazhangI got a "seriously dood? I'ma need it, thats all"18:33
DJones19:32 < n0yd> ok, I made # for advanced and novice, and am registewring them now18:33
bazhangso he's the Founder18:33
IdleOnethat isn't an problem18:33
IdleOneIRCC can ask staff to take it if/when needed18:33
bazhangin Official Ubuntu namespace18:33
IdleOnes/an/a/18:35
DJones#ubuntu-advanced already exists with freenode-staff         +AFORfiorstv as the only entry on the access list18:37
bazhangit's advanced-users18:38
DJonesAh, not what I expected18:38
bazhangthat should not be #18:39
bazhang#ubuntu-novice-users  as well18:40
IdleOne#ubuntu-cafeteria-coolkids-table18:41
bazhangPici will allow them to exist until the next IRCC meeting, I imagine18:41
bazhangI wonder if they will be allowed to advertise in #ubuntu18:42
IdleOnethe channels being created is not an issue like I said. The issue now is making sure he doesn't advertise those channels.18:42
bazhangperhaps we could have the floodbots redirect them once they answered a question in -unregged18:43
IdleOneI would like to know who decides if a questions is advanced enough or not.18:43
bazhanghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5711133/18:56
IdleOnelooks real official like18:58
IdleOnejust needs a neon sign out front.18:58
bazhangheh18:58
bazhangto get Chanserv they have to clear the channel iirc18:58
IdleOne/msg chanserb help set guard18:59
IdleOne-b+v18:59
bazhanghe explained that once the IRCC decides, it will stay or forward to the ##19:00
bazhang"best to be prepared" was the quote19:00
IdleOneisn't that the boy scout moto?19:00
bazhangminus the best to, yeah19:01
IdleOneWell, I think I've made enough passive agressive comments on this topic. Moving on.19:02
bazhanghaha19:02
bazhangPici, who should they contact about getting ubottu ; n0yd wants to know19:42
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