[08:23] <DJones> Morning
[15:37] <DJones> I wonder whether horrorxstory  in #u is HFSplus/FearTheLOrd etc both comcast hosts
[15:37] <bazhang> both are trolls wfm
[15:37] <Myrtti> I thought FTL came from ma, not mi
[15:37] <Myrtti> yeah
[15:37] <Myrtti> difference there
[15:38] <DJones> Yeah, you're right with that
[15:38] <DJones> Ah well
[15:38] <Myrtti> I have to say I'm truly ashamed of my good memory in these things
[15:38] <Myrtti> so much wasted brain power
[15:39] <DJones> Myrtti: Something I was wondering before was a ban on the .myvzw.com address, could you have a look at the following to see if its possible
[15:39] <DJones> Would it be possible to set a ban on *!*@*.sub-174*.myvzw.com  I wasn't sure if you can set a ban with widlcard within it
[15:40] <DJones> Would it be possible to set a ban on *!*@*.sub-174*.myvzw.com  I wasn't sure if you can set a ban with widlcard within it and the sub-174 and myvzw.com appear to be the only consistent parts of the hostname and there doesn't appear to be any other users coming from the sub-174 range of addresses
[15:40] <DJones> This is the one that keeps picking users in #u and then pm'ing obscene/racist/offensive comments
[15:41] <Myrtti> AFAIK you can
[15:41] <Myrtti> I might be wrong though
[15:42] <DJones> Anybody you'd recommend querying that with
[15:43] <DJones> erry looks to be online
[15:43] <Myrtti> well I'm sure someone will smite me for giving you wrong information if I'm wrong
[15:43] <DJones> Heh
[15:44] <Myrtti> is it really that urgent? you could just set a +q for that hostmask and see if it takes hold
[15:44] <DJones> Thats true, i'll give that a go
[15:44] <Myrtti> besides it's a wide ban anyway so I'd recommend a mute in any case
[15:44] <DJones> Thanks for the advice
[15:44] <Myrtti> or a banforward to this/some other channel
[15:45] <bazhang> yeah he wants to poll
[15:46] <DJones> ok, set +q on that address to see if it works
[15:51] <bazhang> a webui to use something remotely? thought that meant ssh
[17:33] <bazhang> whoa annoying
[17:35] <bazhang> he's playing eleventh dimension chess!
[17:36]  * Pici snerks
[17:40] <bazhang> I pretty much lost interest after that wall 'o text
[17:49] <bazhang> wubi and mixing in debian repos! what could go wrong
[18:23] <IdleOne> iirc the idea of creating a more "leet" channel has been discussed and denied, there are -dev channels for those users who wish to dig deeper and get help with doing development. IMO creating such a channel would be splitting the community and helpers.
 Actually, thats a great name, #ubuntu-advanced.
[18:24] <bazhang> bwhahahahahaNOWAY
[18:24] <bazhang> he insulted every single helper, and now wants his own advanced channel
[18:25] <IdleOne> Topic for #ubuntu-advanced: All noobs go to #ubuntu.
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[18:25] <IdleOne> Anyway, it is a bad idea and will only create a divide in the IRC community which is exactly what we don't want.
[18:26] <bazhang> bug: confirmed; released ∞ +1
[18:26] <DJones> IdleOne: +1 Although I don't think the regular helpers would abandon #u, however I don't think a 'new user' would understand the difference between basic and advanced questions, from their point of view, everything could well be advanced & they'd just ask in the advanced channel
[18:27] <bazhang> he was so elite that he was doing the glib versions from memory, and badly misremembering them
[18:27] <IdleOne> DJones: exactly, ops would waste time explaining, yeah you're problem is a valid one but not important enough for us to bother with. Plz2go to the not-so-leet channel.
[18:27] <bazhang> more like needs a #ubuntu-alzheimers
[18:28] <DJones> I guess 'technically' #ubuntu is the advanced channel given that there is #ubuntu-beginners
[18:28] <jbroome> yikes
[18:28] <bazhang> eliminate the !crosspost factoid forthwith
[18:28] <Pici> Just because we might disagree with it doesn't make it a bad idea that we should strike out immediately.
[18:29] <IdleOne> -beginners is a team channel and not specifically for support. They do some support but that isn't the purpose.
[18:29] <bazhang> it's a bad idea
[18:29] <IdleOne> Pici: It might be worth revisiting. I suspect it will not pass anymore then it did the last time this was brought up.
[18:30] <bazhang> it's been proposed since forever
[18:31] <IdleOne> Just wanted to make sure I voiced my opinion on it.
[18:31] <DJones> The idea does have merit, for example the question about ZFS that ThePendulum was asking about yesterday - that probably took a couple of hours for somebody to go through, so a less busy channel for a complex issue would probably be more useful
[18:31] <bazhang> n0yd had an issue that was not *that* complex, but simply refused to answer any questions of the five or so first helpers
[18:32] <IdleOne> I'm not a noob. We are not mind readers.
[18:33] <bazhang> I got a "seriously dood? I'ma need it, thats all"
[18:33] <DJones> 19:32 < n0yd> ok, I made # for advanced and novice, and am registewring them now
[18:33] <bazhang> so he's the Founder
[18:33] <IdleOne> that isn't an problem
[18:33] <IdleOne> IRCC can ask staff to take it if/when needed
[18:33] <bazhang> in Official Ubuntu namespace
[18:35] <IdleOne> s/an/a/
[18:37] <DJones> #ubuntu-advanced already exists with freenode-staff         +AFORfiorstv as the only entry on the access list
[18:38] <bazhang> it's advanced-users
[18:38] <DJones> Ah, not what I expected
[18:39] <bazhang> that should not be #
[18:40] <bazhang> #ubuntu-novice-users  as well
[18:41] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-cafeteria-coolkids-table
[18:41] <bazhang> Pici will allow them to exist until the next IRCC meeting, I imagine
[18:42] <bazhang> I wonder if they will be allowed to advertise in #ubuntu
[18:42] <IdleOne> the channels being created is not an issue like I said. The issue now is making sure he doesn't advertise those channels.
[18:43] <bazhang> perhaps we could have the floodbots redirect them once they answered a question in -unregged
[18:43] <IdleOne> I would like to know who decides if a questions is advanced enough or not.
[18:56] <bazhang> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5711133/
[18:58] <IdleOne> looks real official like
[18:58] <IdleOne> just needs a neon sign out front.
[18:58] <bazhang> heh
[18:58] <bazhang> to get Chanserv they have to clear the channel iirc
[18:59] <IdleOne> /msg chanserb help set guard
[18:59] <IdleOne> -b+v
[19:00] <bazhang> he explained that once the IRCC decides, it will stay or forward to the ##
[19:00] <bazhang> "best to be prepared" was the quote
[19:00] <IdleOne> isn't that the boy scout moto?
[19:01] <bazhang> minus the best to, yeah
[19:02] <IdleOne> Well, I think I've made enough passive agressive comments on this topic. Moving on.
[19:02] <bazhang> haha
[19:42] <bazhang> Pici, who should they contact about getting ubottu ; n0yd wants to know