[00:24] <Atheistics> installing now
[00:26] <[0gb_us]> Installing what? Xubuntu?
[00:26] <Atheistics> xubunt...trying to install flashplayer also
[00:40] <sketch_> hello all again... so id like the lil bit of compiz wobbaly windows and such can anyone tell me how to get it working?
[00:49] <Rakko> How can I make Xubuntu put my monitor in powersave mode when idle? I seem to be using Xscreensaver (standard with xubuntu?), which is set to blank the monitor only; it does blank it, but it's not in powersave mode.
[00:52] <[0gb_us]> I had that same issue. Here's how to fix it:
[00:53] <[0gb_us]> In the xscreensaver config window, choose turn on power managing and enable the setting that says to shut off the monitor imediently when in blank-only mode.
[00:54] <[0gb_us]> It has the unfortunate side effect of forcing power management to be enabled when you choose a non-black screensaver, but if you stick with just black, it will work.
[01:00] <Rakko> oh, I must have missed that
[01:03] <Rakko> thanks
[01:06] <Rakko> Out of curiosity, why isn't X just configured to do that?
[01:06] <[0gb_us]> It should be. And in GNOME screensaver, it is.
[01:07] <Rakko> Well I mean those are dependent on certain screensavers. I would think it would be dependent on something at a lower level.
[01:07] <[0gb_us]> I don't know. I'm still trying to figure out how to dim the screen in Xubuntu. It works fine in Ubuntu.
[01:08] <sketch_> ok so i followed this guide http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-set-up-compiz-in-xubuntu-1210-or.html and i still have nothing any ideas?
[01:08] <[0gb_us]> Sorry, I don't know anything about Compiz.
[01:09] <sketch_> anyone else??? lol
[01:18] <sketch_> compiz on xubuntu is not working and i cant figure out why i looked around and its the same process and i.ve tried 4 times
[01:19] <[0gb_us]> Does it work on other variants? Such as Ubuntu?
[01:21] <sketch_> yeah i got it
[01:21] <sketch_> n/m
[01:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> hallo. odd issue here. while creating a symlink for ruby (it has stupidly placed .h files, lol) the resultant link is always broken, am I doing something wrong here?
[02:02] <Rakko> [0gb_us]: where does Xubuntu allow you to set whether the computer itself goes to sleep?
[02:02] <Rakko> mine seems to go to sleep after some amount of time, which is annoying when I'm trying to use it to back up
[02:03] <Rakko> I don't remember 10.x doing that
[02:03] <[0gb_us]> I think there's a way to set that in power management, but mine is set not to do that.
[02:04] <[0gb_us]> Menu > Settings > Settings Manager >  Power Manager
[02:04] <[0gb_us]> Rakko, ^
[02:05] <Rakko> d'oh
[02:05] <Rakko> thanks
[02:06] <[0gb_us]> Yeah, no problem.
[02:07] <Rakko> nice. terminal rickroll
[02:07] <[0gb_us]> Hmm? What?
[02:07] <Rakko> ntzrmtthih777's quit message
[05:19] <xubuntu135> folks good morning
[05:20] <xubuntu135> i just installed xubuntu 12.04
[05:20] <xubuntu135> I can ping any internet address
[05:20] <xubuntu135> no loss
[05:20] <xubuntu135> but I can't install anything thru apt-get
[05:20] <xubuntu135> neither browse the internet
[05:21] <[0gb_us]> THat's really odd.
[05:21] <xubuntu135> even when i run live
[05:21] <xubuntu135> same thing happens
[05:21] <[0gb_us]> I don't know how to help with that.
[05:22] <xubuntu135> ok thanks
[05:22] <[0gb_us]> I have an odd issue where I can't ping an address that I can connect to. It's sort of the opposite problem.
[05:22] <xubuntu135> kindaof
[05:22] <xubuntu135> lol
[05:23] <xubuntu135> maybe i'll try the latest release
[05:23] <xubuntu135> thanks anyway
[05:23] <xubuntu135> good luck
[06:34] <xubuntu164> hello
[06:35] <[0gb_us]> Hello!
[06:35] <xubuntu164> i need to ask
[06:35] <ObrienDave> just ask
[06:35] <xubuntu164> how to integrate calendar with outlook and webmail as i use postfix as a mail server
[06:36] <ObrienDave> outlook? isn't that a windows program?
[06:38] <[0gb_us]> Yeah, my mother uses that.
[06:39] <ObrienDave> i used to, before i found Linux ;)
[06:39] <[0gb_us]> I was a Mac user before I found Linux.
[06:39] <[0gb_us]> No Outlook there either.
[06:39] <ObrienDave> another convert :))
[06:41] <[0gb_us]> I've managed to convert my three siblings as well. ☺ I still haven't had any luck with our mother though. ☹
[06:42] <ObrienDave> i wouldn't even try to convert mine, my wife is bad enough LMAO
[06:42] <[0gb_us]> I only try to convert Windows people. My Mac-using brother was an accident.
[06:43] <ObrienDave> better late than never :D
[06:44] <ObrienDave> brb
[06:45] <[0gb_us]> Hmm. I still need to talk to some people from #gnu. Apparently, using commercial software is somehow morally wrong or something. Personally, I like a mix of open source and commercial software myself, so I want to understand what is so bad about that.
[06:50] <ObrienDave> nothing wrong with commercial software. it does, however, go against the grain of open source free software
[06:51] <[0gb_us]> The problem though is that open source software can't reliably fill some needs.
[06:52] <[0gb_us]> Anything that remains consistent can be handled by open source projects.
[06:52] <ObrienDave> true. but i can do 98% of what i need with open source
[06:52] <[0gb_us]> However, some things require constant and steady development.
[06:53] <[0gb_us]> I use commercial games and probably commercial drivers. The rest of my stuff is open source.
[06:53] <koegs> guys, that is an interesting topic, but could you please move over to #xubuntu-offtopic?
[06:53] <[0gb_us]> Hmm? Oh, sorry. I'll be quiet now.
[09:36] <foobar55> hi all - someone firm with harddisk -ide 2,5 fujitsu mht2040 - I lost 10MB from 40MB ??
[09:36] <foobar55> system freeze when i installed xubuntu 12.04 -  when formating hd may be after 10%
[09:37] <foobar55> partition magic from liveCD even freeze at 10% formatingi
[09:37] <foobar55> reconfigured the disk with testdisk CHS 16383,16,63 LBA 78.140.160
[09:37] <foobar55> but getgpart = dev(/dev/sdb) mss(512) chs(30517/64/32)(LBA) #s(62498816) size(30517mb) Warning: strange partition table magic 0x0000
[09:37] <foobar55> Partition table holds up to 128 entries First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 62499966dmde
[09:37] <foobar55> found FAT32 32MB 0 - 62499999 ( i think primary sectors )  and (i think logical)  63 - 62499999dmde found patition 3,16MB 102887-109005 and 6,29MB 102887-115174 sectors - this are the lost 10MB
[09:37] <foobar55> i use the tools - DMDE,  gpart, testdisk to find my mistake
[09:37] <foobar55> i dont know a logical workflow to reconf this harddisk or find the failure because i tryed all normal ways
[09:37] <foobar55> I know the disk is dead, but its only for my anderstanding
[10:21] <testpil0t> Hello! I am using xubuntu 12.04. Since a few days, the volume indicator always pops up, once in a while. Without doing any change on the volume level. I did not find any bug description about this (or anything)... Did anyone experience similar problems ?
[10:31] <testpil0t> ... also xfce always restores my session :/
[10:34] <Sysi> you can select to not restore session in logout popup window, delete saved one with rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions
[10:45] <gatsu1000> hey all
[14:14] <Roxastry> Hello all. I have issues about window customization. I needed change titlebar color. How i can make it? Sorry of my bad English.
[14:15] <koegs> Roxastry: i think you have to edit the theme, you cannot simply change the color in settings
[14:15] <koegs> http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/xfwm4_theme
[14:19] <Roxastry> I need change it programmatically. I create application on Gtkmm library. I can use other library if it need.
[14:19] <Roxastry> I'm use c++.
[14:19] <Roxastry> *I use C++
[14:23] <GridCube> Roxastry, you want to override gtk configs?
[14:25] <Roxastry> GridCube, No. This should only be used in the same application, in which I write.
[14:25] <GridCube> so, you want your program to override global gtk?
[14:26] <GridCube> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14887646/can-an-application-override-a-gtk-theme-for-one-property-of-one-widget
[14:28] <ochosi> Roxastry: that is impossible with xfwm4 at the moment, as far as i know
[14:29] <ochosi> Roxastry: when it is ported to gtk3 (at some point in the distant future) and support for dark themes gets added, you can tell the app to ask for a dark theme
[14:29] <ochosi> Roxastry: the only alternative is to make your app undecorated and add window-decorations yourself (check xfce4-notes as reference, it's written in vala though afaik)
[14:30] <Roxastry> I can create my theme and use he only my application?
[14:31] <ochosi> i don't know in detail how xfce4-notes does it, check the source-code ;)
[14:31] <GridCube> Roxastry, read the link i pasted you
[14:31] <Roxastry> thanks all :)
[14:31] <ochosi> np
[14:31] <Roxastry> i will try =)
[14:32] <ochosi> Roxastry: just out of curiosity, what app are you writing?
[14:33] <Roxastry> i can't say =( it's commerce=(
[14:34] <ochosi> how sad
[14:54] <_DomY-Dom> In 13.04 what is the valid path to the 16:40 < genec> well, it ONLY needs to be bastardized via CLI when you are doing an unsupported action
[14:54] <_DomY-Dom> damn
[14:54] <_DomY-Dom> sorry wrong copy paste
[14:55] <_DomY-Dom> In 13.04, what is the valid path to the 3.8.0-22-generci kernel headers?
[14:55]  * _DomY-Dom that's better
[14:58] <aiena> Does anyone know if 32 bit povray runs on 64 bit architecture (runnig xubuntu 12.04 precise - 64 bit)
[14:58] <knome> aiena, should be no problem running 32 bit stuff on 64 bit generally
[14:59] <genii-around> _DomY-Dom: All the headers get put in /usr/src/linux-headers-<KERNEL-VERSION-HERE>
[15:01] <genii-around> eg: /usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-22-generic/        ...in this case
[15:08] <xubuntu542> a chanel for cairo dock exists?
[15:10] <GridCube> #cairo-dock
[15:14] <aiena> knome: I had to install it with no architecture support for it to work now povray renders with a translucent background but it renders either way and does its job and nothing seems broken so I'm happy
[15:19] <_DomY-Dom> genii-around: "The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-22-generic/" is not a valid path to the 3.8.0-22-generic kernel headers" is the output I get from the VMware tools installation, I have Xubuntu 13.04 in a VM (VMWare Fusion).
[17:56] <xubuntu144> Hi there, i'm a bit green, wel actually I'm a total green....
[17:58] <xubuntu144> anyway I just installed xubuntu 13.04 on my old laptop, everything works just fine but no internet.
[18:02] <xubuntu144> when I plug the cable i got a nice windows telling me that I'm connected, but nothing else happens. No firefox, no nothing. If I open terminal and use "ifconfig" i get as follow:
[18:02] <xubuntu144>  amarco@marco-Laptop:~$ ifconfig eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:e2:7c:97:61             inet addr:192.168.0.102  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0           inet6 addr: fe80::200:e2ff:fe7c:9761/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:931 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:1110 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisio
[18:03] <xubuntu144> any idea what could be wrong?
[18:03] <bazhang> what about sudo dhclient eth0
[18:03] <bazhang> and then ping www.google.com
[18:06] <xubuntu144> marco@marco-Laptop:~$ sudo dhclient eth0 RTNETLINK answers: File exists marco@marco-Laptop:~$ ping -c3 www.google.com ping: unknown host www.google.com
[18:07] <Myrtti> how about if you ping 8.8.8.8
[18:14] <xubuntu144> marco@marco-Laptop:~$ ping -c5 8.8.8.8  PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.  --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4031ms
[18:14] <xubuntu144> marco@marco-Laptop:~$ ping 8.8.8.8 PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.  ^C --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics --- 105 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 103999ms
[18:15] <koegs> can you ping the gateway ip?
[18:16] <xubuntu144> mmmmmhhhhh ..... gateway ip = ??????
[18:16] <xubuntu144> sorry !!!!
[18:20] <xubuntu144> ok, ok, I'm getting there....
[18:21] <koegs> xubuntu144: how do you connect to the internet?
[18:22] <xubuntu144> marco@marco-Laptop:~$ ping 192.168.1.1 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data. ^C --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics --- 53 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 52334ms
[18:22] <koegs> so you have the ip 192.168.0.102 and your default gateway is 192.168.1.1, this is definitely not working
[18:23] <xubuntu144> cable - is working fine, I'm using the same connection now on another computer router
[18:23] <koegs> please put the output of "ifconfig -a" and "ip r s" in a nopaste
[18:23] <koegs> !paste
[18:26] <xubuntu144> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5711032/
[18:27] <xubuntu144> thanks 4 the tip. I'm already learning a lot!
[18:27] <koegs> so your default gateway is 192.168.0.1, please try to ping it
[18:32] <xubuntu144> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5711055/
[18:36] <koegs> so, dhcp works, you can ping your router, but not 8.8.8.8 (which is the google dns server)?
[18:37] <xubuntu144> that seems indeed the case. and I dont have a clue what to do about it
[18:48] <xubuntu144> thanks anyway.... I'll figure something out..... tomorrow    : )
[20:04] <jtreminio> Hi all! Are there any special steps to be taken to install Xubuntu on a MBP 2013 model?
[20:04] <jtreminio> er, late 2012 model I guess
[20:09] <Sysi> if you boot from CD, no
[20:10] <Sysi> your machine will boot to xubuntu by default, you need to hold alt to get to osx
[20:11] <jtreminio> Sysi: thanks for that. Any other issues? I want to install the OS via USB
[20:14] <b3rz3rk3r> Does anyone know how to remove dead entries from the XFCE menu that don't show up in the editor?
[20:15] <Sysi> jtreminio: you need to create stick with some additional steps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[20:15] <Sysi> b3rz3rk3r: look into ~/.local/share/applications
[20:15] <b3rz3rk3r> Sysi, will do, thanks!
[20:18] <b3rz3rk3r> Sysi, worked perfectly, cheers! :D
[20:18] <Sysi> you're welcome
[20:19] <Sysi> jtreminio: in my experience on early '11 MBP, battery life was worse than on virtual machine
[20:27] <xubuntu267> i have encrypted my home foldder in xubuntu
[20:28] <xubuntu267> and i took some picts to a usb stick and i cant red them to window spc
[20:28] <xubuntu267> what can i do?