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pitti | Good morning | 03:32 |
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Mirv | morning | 04:07 |
olli_ | wow pitti that is early | 04:13 |
pitti | hey olli_ | 04:23 |
Mirv | powerpc build failure chain.. | 05:29 |
didrocks | Mirv: yeah, mind looking at it? sil2100 couldn't figure out where the race was | 05:32 |
didrocks | as the -dev is arch:any, not arch:all | 05:32 |
Mirv | there's no sensible packaging explanation at least, the .29 looks correct inside the packages, and because of arch:any they can't be published at a different time. Packages file is correct. possibly a caching problem of some sort at the builder. | 05:59 |
didrocks | Mirv: it happens quite often | 06:02 |
didrocks | Mirv: so I think the issue is in the dep of this -dev which is arch:any | 06:02 |
pitti | bonjour didrocks, hey Mirv | 06:02 |
didrocks | Mirv: would be useful to experiment and have a deeper look there | 06:03 |
didrocks | hey pitti! | 06:03 |
* didrocks hopes we can finally put otto in production today :) | 06:03 | |
pitti | didrocks: ooh! | 06:03 |
Mirv | didrocks: the dep in the -dev package is correct, opening up the .deb and looking at DEBIAN/ | 06:04 |
Mirv | hey pitti | 06:04 |
didrocks | Mirv: I mean the dep of the -dev packages from the build-deps | 06:05 |
didrocks | Mirv: I think it's a second-level third-level things which is blocking | 06:05 |
Mirv | didrocks: right.. | 06:07 |
Mirv | with unity-lens-music the only possible interlocked deps would be between libunity and dee, but not seeing a problem (enough >=, not "=" in deps) and no visible third level daily-build-next build dependencies. still, it must be something like that which causes apt to act up. | 06:25 |
Mirv | the failures all happened around the exact same time (1h ago) as the 13.05.29 of libunity got published | 06:30 |
didrocks | hum, interesting | 06:33 |
didrocks | Mirv: did you get any feedback from QA on your credentials? | 07:17 |
seb128 | hey desktopers | 07:19 |
didrocks | hey seb128 | 07:20 |
seb128 | lut didrocks | 07:20 |
Mirv | didrocks: yes, I've the additional rights now, although I haven't used them yet | 07:20 |
didrocks | Mirv: seeing your stacks, I guess it's time to use them, right? :) | 07:21 |
didrocks | Mirv: seems a UTAH issue as only failing on one config, isn't it? | 07:21 |
Mirv | didrocks: yes, exactly, time to try out. I checked it the first thing in the morning but it was actually before this day's run. | 07:22 |
didrocks | Mirv: we can move up the time if needed | 07:22 |
didrocks | Mirv: just please tell me the command you are going to use first :) | 07:22 |
didrocks | Mirv: here, you have 2 ways of "solving" it: | 07:22 |
didrocks | - either force the publication (we got the tests on one config and it was fine) | 07:22 |
didrocks | - or retry to launch the tests only | 07:23 |
didrocks | crossing fingers that UTAH will work | 07:23 |
Mirv | didrocks: the time is alright, I should just remember it's not yet there at 7am sharp. | 07:23 |
didrocks | ok :) | 07:23 |
Mirv | didrocks: so build now at the 2.2check job? (I'd have chosen to rebuild the top-most job, remembering from somewhere) | 07:24 |
didrocks | Mirv: you should use the command line tool | 07:25 |
Mirv | didrocks: I think I still can't publish with the command line tools, as they needed extra credentials, not just access rights added to the jenkins uid? | 07:25 |
didrocks | Mirv: see tha FAQ :) | 07:25 |
Mirv | ah, ok | 07:25 |
didrocks | it will always run the right job :) | 07:25 |
sil2100 | Can we already use the command line tools now? ;) | 07:33 |
didrocks | sil2100: you should be :) | 07:33 |
didrocks | sil2100: do you have the cred file ready? | 07:34 |
didrocks | hey sil2100 ;) | 07:34 |
sil2100 | didrocka | 07:34 |
sil2100 | I mean, | 07:34 |
mlankhorst | morning | 07:35 |
sil2100 | didrocks: I don't think so, what do I need to do to get that? | 07:35 |
didrocks | sil2100: you have the credential file example in cupstream2distro | 07:35 |
seb128 | hey sil2100 Mirv mlankhorst | 07:35 |
Mirv | hey seb128 | 07:35 |
didrocks | sil2100: you should copy it to ~/.cu2d.cred and file with name/password (used in jenkins) | 07:35 |
didrocks | hey mlankhorst | 07:35 |
sil2100 | \o/ | 07:35 |
sil2100 | Awesome, will do those steps now | 07:36 |
mlankhorst | heya | 07:36 |
pitti | bonjour seb128, ça va ? | 07:50 |
seb128 | pitti, salut, très bien, et toi ? | 07:51 |
pitti | seb128: un peu fatigue, mais je vais bien aussi, merci! | 07:51 |
pitti | j'attends avec impatience le long weekend | 07:52 |
didrocks | long? | 07:52 |
Mirv | sil2100: my first command worked fine here :) | 07:52 |
seb128 | didrocks, tomorrow is an holiday in Germany | 07:52 |
pitti | yeah, and I take Friday off (swapped with May 1st from the sprint) | 07:52 |
didrocks | seb128: and in Francany? :) | 07:52 |
seb128 | didrocks, it's one of those day I pretend to be German, of course... ;-) | 07:53 |
didrocks | seb128: that's intolerable | 07:53 |
didrocks | I'm shocked! | 07:53 |
seb128 | roh | 07:54 |
seb128 | didrocks, alright, alright, I'm going to be there ... happy? ;-) | 07:54 |
didrocks | seb128: ahah, really? :) | 07:54 |
didrocks | seb128: or just looking at us hard working? | 07:54 |
didrocks | with some beer at hand :) | 07:55 |
seb128 | didrocks, yes, we have "only 2 extra holidays", that's not one of those :p | 07:55 |
* pitti yays and welcomes seb128 | 07:55 | |
didrocks | (and sending peanuts through the barrier) | 07:55 |
seb128 | lol | 07:55 |
didrocks | ahah :) | 07:55 |
seb128 | didrocks, I'm going to watch people hit hard in a yellow ball on TV and pretend to be working like every other non rainy day this week :p I can spare some peanuts for you though ... ;-) | 07:56 |
* seb128 hugs didrocks | 07:56 | |
* didrocks hugs seb128 back | 07:56 | |
seb128 | do you guys have a preference between "one blueprint by system settings panel" or "one blueprints for all panels"? | 07:58 |
seb128 | didrocks, Laney, larsu: ^ | 07:58 |
didrocks | seb128: I would prefer one for all | 07:59 |
seb128 | that's what the indicator team did for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/indicator-backend | 07:59 |
seb128 | didrocks, one for all and maybe split some of they turn to require extra tracking/being verbose in details? | 08:00 |
sil2100 | Mirv: same here \o/ | 08:00 |
seb128 | I was trying to avoid having an endless list of details on one spec | 08:00 |
didrocks | seb128: agreed | 08:00 |
seb128 | didrocks, thanks for the input ;-) | 08:01 |
didrocks | yw ;) | 08:01 |
didrocks | Mirv: sil2100: woowww! :) | 08:01 |
Laney | hey | 08:03 |
Laney | yeah, keeping the number down might be easier | 08:03 |
pitti | hey Laney, good morning | 08:03 |
seb128 | Laney, good morning | 08:04 |
Mirv | sil2100: \o/ | 08:05 |
seb128 | Laney, didrocks, larsu, cyphermox, I registered https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-s-system-settings-panels and started to file it out a bit, just for info | 08:54 |
Laney | is that different from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-s-touch-system-settings ? | 08:55 |
Laney | maybe that's about the container thing | 08:55 |
seb128 | Laney, yes, I don't want to mix too much, the one you listed is for the container and protocol | 08:55 |
seb128 | Laney, the new one is about specific panels | 08:56 |
didrocks | seb128: thanks | 08:56 |
Laney | ok | 08:56 |
seb128 | Laney, we might even want to split out some panels at some point if that's just too verbose to list 10+ panels detailled items on one blueprint (I already wish we could do some formatting in the WI, like at least add empty spaces to separates panels) | 08:57 |
Laney | yeah, we'll see how verbose it gets when people split out their work items I guess | 08:57 |
seb128 | does anyone know if we have tracking by team for specific milestones on status? | 09:15 |
seb128 | we have | 09:16 |
seb128 | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/canonical-desktop-team.html | 09:16 |
seb128 | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/all-ubuntu-13.05.html | 09:16 |
seb128 | but no | 09:16 |
seb128 | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/canonical-desktop-team-13.05.html | 09:16 |
seb128 | ? | 09:16 |
seb128 | oh | 09:17 |
seb128 | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-13.05.html | 09:17 |
seb128 | ok, unping :p | 09:17 |
seb128 | didrocks, do you plan to move the remaining items for client-s-desktop-autolanding and client-1303-ubuntu-touch-porting to 13.06? do you want me to do it? | 09:18 |
* Laney moves his one to 13.06 | 09:19 | |
didrocks | seb128: client-s-desktop-autolanding is cross month, so I'll just redirect the target | 09:19 |
seb128 | didrocks, ok, I changed the 1303-ubuntu-touch target to -13.06 | 09:20 |
didrocks | seb128: client-1303-ubuntu-touch-porting is yours IRIC :) | 09:20 |
didrocks | IIRC* | 09:20 |
didrocks | yep ;) | 09:20 |
seb128 | yep | 09:20 |
Laney | bah, jbicha uploaded a borked gtranslator | 09:21 |
* Laney wondered why that had managed to migrate | 09:21 | |
seb128 | :-( | 09:21 |
seb128 | how borked? | 09:21 |
Laney | nothing another upload can't fix | 09:21 |
Laney | I already had it prepared so noticed when mine got rejected | 09:21 |
Laney | related - the 'sponge' tool is awesome | 09:23 |
Laney | merge-changelog ../old/debian/changelog debian/changelog | sponge debian/changelog ♥ | 09:23 |
seb128 | didrocks, it seems like https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-2013-05-touch-landing was not showing on the tracker by lack of "series goal: saucy", I added it (just for info and reminder that we need to check that the serie is set) | 09:27 |
didrocks | seb128: ah, thanks! | 09:28 |
didrocks | seb128: hum, I wonder if we need to retarget it | 09:28 |
didrocks | seb128: I won't do that, I'll create a new one rather | 09:28 |
didrocks | and move what's not done | 09:28 |
seb128 | didrocks, oh, I just did | 09:28 |
didrocks | buut first, meeting this evening to ensure it's updated | 09:28 |
didrocks | (obviously, it's not) | 09:28 |
didrocks | reverted | 09:29 |
seb128 | didrocks, I was going to put all the DONE under a -13.05 and list the remaining items under -13.06 | 09:29 |
seb128 | ok | 09:29 |
seb128 | wfm as well | 09:29 |
didrocks | seb128: it's not refreshed, that's why I want to handle it :) | 09:29 |
seb128 | ok, works for me | 09:29 |
seb128 | didrocks, thanks ;-) | 09:29 |
didrocks | yw :) | 09:29 |
Laney | is there some known case where dbus-test-runner hangs consuming an entire core under sbuild? | 09:35 |
Laney | trying to build libfriends and that's happening | 09:35 |
didrocks | Laney: is it stuck or still running? | 09:35 |
didrocks | hanging | 09:35 |
Laney | well there's no output | 09:35 |
didrocks | so what's happening sometimes is that one of the process didn't exist | 09:36 |
Laney | the last message is acritical saying that it can't create /run/user/1000/dconf | 09:36 |
didrocks | (a dbus-launch most of the time) | 09:36 |
Laney | I don't think it ran any tests at all | 09:36 |
didrocks | and sbuild don't exit until all processes are exited | 09:36 |
didrocks | and normally, it stucks | 09:36 |
didrocks | but your case seems different | 09:36 |
didrocks | because this is when sbuild exit | 09:36 |
didrocks | so after all package binary creation done | 09:36 |
Laney | yeah, the leftover process case - that's not this | 09:37 |
Laney | let me push it and someone else can try and see if it's me | 09:40 |
didrocks | ok, no rain, let's try to run :-) | 09:44 |
seb128 | didrocks, good luck! | 09:45 |
didrocks | seb128: thanks! :) | 09:45 |
Laney | ok, someone please try lp:~laney/libfriends/gtkspell3-3 and see if the testsuite works or not | 09:48 |
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seb128 | Laney, 1 test passed | 09:57 |
seb128 | builds fine on my saucy install | 09:57 |
Laney | wtf | 09:59 |
seb128 | Laney, well, that's on my normal system, not in sbuild | 09:59 |
Laney | ah, didn't try that | 09:59 |
Laney | still hangs - at this point I start to blame lxc :-) | 10:01 |
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xnox | In Gtk, "text links" (aka looks like clickable URLs) are "blue" instead of "orange" color on the saucy live cd. Is that intended change, or a regression/bug ? | 10:32 |
larsu | seb128: one blueprint sounds good to me. Thanks! | 10:42 |
seb128 | larsu, good morning, great ;-) | 10:42 |
larsu | seb128: good morning :) | 10:42 |
* larsu yawns | 10:43 | |
seb128 | larsu, 6:45 and you are already on the computer, do you try to compete with pitti on whoever wakes up first? ;-) | 10:44 |
pitti | 6:45? pah! | 10:44 |
larsu | lol | 10:44 |
larsu | I don't try to compete, I just seem to be waking up earlier this week | 10:45 |
pitti | larsu: must be that bright sun outside *smirk* | 10:45 |
seb128 | larsu, from pitti's "pah", I think you need to make some extra efforts before he even considers you as competition :p | 10:45 |
seb128 | :-( | 10:45 |
* seb128 wants spring to come | 10:45 | |
seb128 | or summer | 10:45 |
pitti | at least today I have a good reason, we are leaving early | 10:46 |
larsu | pitti: sadly it's raining here. Well, pouring rather :( | 10:46 |
larsu | seb128: :D | 10:46 |
pitti | larsu: yeah, just like Monday, today, tomorrow, Friday, and Saturday | 10:46 |
pitti | yesterday was marvellous, but that was only a quick imtermezzo | 10:46 |
larsu | Toronto had great weather on Monday | 10:46 |
seb128 | we had 2 nice days | 10:46 |
seb128 | it's like 4 sunny days for may | 10:46 |
seb128 | wth weather! | 10:46 |
Laney | yesterday it rained so much before we got up that the clothes drying outside were already saturated | 10:47 |
* larsu is just happy the snow is gone | 10:47 | |
Laney | so i've made the adult decision to just leave them out there for as long as it takes | 10:47 |
seb128 | lol | 10:47 |
* Laney wears a potato sack | 10:47 | |
larsu | haha, awesome | 10:47 |
ogra_ | does it have some pretty printing or stamp on it at least ? | 10:48 |
Laney | ogra_: this is a picture i just took of myself http://www.nubbytwiglet.com/2011/potato_sack_dress_3.jpg | 10:49 |
ogra_ | oh, you died your hair ! | 10:49 |
pitti | awesome | 10:49 |
ogra_ | corresponds nicely with the new shoes | 10:49 |
Laney | nothing if not fashionable, me | 10:50 |
pitti | le sac va bien avec tu! | 10:50 |
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* xnox core dumps glade with ubiquity again. | 10:53 | |
Laney | trace/bug? | 10:54 |
chrisccoulson | seb128, we had some nice days at the weekend here. | 10:55 |
chrisccoulson | i got ruby a trampoline on monday, and spent all afternoon assembling it | 10:55 |
chrisccoulson | and it has rained non-stop since ;) | 10:55 |
* chrisccoulson is seriously annoyed at that | 10:55 | |
Laney | tell you what, I did again discuss getting a bbq on Monday and that night it started raining | 10:55 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, it started raining here just as i was finishing with the trampoline | 10:56 |
Laney | we got too complacent | 10:56 |
mlankhorst | hehehe | 10:57 |
* mlankhorst did 32 km of biking on monday eve | 10:57 | |
ogra_ | you are brits, aremt you supposed to like rain ? | 11:00 |
ogra_ | *arent | 11:00 |
ogra_ | (and be happy you didnt have snow, germany did !) | 11:00 |
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Laney | stockholm syndrome | 11:00 |
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seb128 | chrisccoulson, get the trampoline in your living room? ;-) | 11:11 |
chrisccoulson | seb128, it won't fit ;) | 11:11 |
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seb128 | chrisccoulson, http://m.bbc.co.uk/weather/2655603 seems you might get lucky for the w.e | 11:13 |
seb128 | hum, I wonder why I landed on the mobile site from google | 11:14 |
seb128 | http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2655603 | 11:14 |
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chrisccoulson | seb128, SUN????? IT LIES! | 11:16 |
chrisccoulson | :) | 11:16 |
seb128 | hehe | 11:16 |
chrisccoulson | i hope it is dry. ruby really needs to get on that trampoline and burn some energy off | 11:16 |
chrisccoulson | especially with it being half term this week (no pre-school) | 11:16 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, it's a clever trick to raise your mood so you are productive at work for the end of week | 11:16 |
chrisccoulson | heh | 11:16 |
seb128 | ;-) | 11:17 |
seb128 | haha | 11:17 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, I see, you bought the trampoline for you, the goal is to get your daugther tired enough that you get a quiet evening! :p | 11:18 |
czajkowski | so much for summer :( | 11:18 |
chrisccoulson | hah, yes, that's the plan :) | 11:18 |
seb128 | ;-) | 11:18 |
chrisccoulson | czajkowski, i'm beginning to think that we might not ever see a summer again | 11:18 |
* chrisccoulson knows how to make people really depressed | 11:19 | |
czajkowski | Monday was fab yesterday it rained all day long :( poor chickens looked like large drowned rats | 11:19 |
* didrocks really thinks we should declare this weather illegal and be done with it | 11:22 | |
czajkowski | didrocks: I agree | 11:24 |
didrocks | law is a answer for everything :) | 11:24 |
czajkowski | it's weird growing up, we al thought it was hotter in the UK than in Ireland, so far this theory doesn't hold true since I moved here! | 11:24 |
didrocks | or is it "metaclass" the right answer? | 11:24 |
didrocks | ahah :) | 11:24 |
asac | seb128: on saucy, gnome-terminal, go to any tab but the first, change size, click on (chromium) browser window that runs in background, gnome-terminal size flips back to what it was before | 11:43 |
seb128 | hum, right | 11:44 |
seb128 | is that new? | 11:44 |
asac | yeah see this on both computers ... seems to be just related to unfocus | 11:44 |
asac | not sure... just upgraded to saucy | 11:44 |
asac | surely new compared to raring :) | 11:44 |
seb128 | k, I will try to figure out what upgrade broke it | 11:45 |
seb128 | Laney, ^ could it be vte? | 11:45 |
Laney | doubt it but i suppose it's not impossible | 11:45 |
Laney | 'size' meaning window geometry? | 11:45 |
seb128 | right | 11:45 |
Laney | doesn't reproduce for me if so | 11:46 |
asac | are you in second tab in gnome-terminal? resize the window with mouse ... click outside the terminal window somewhere ... and size flips back here | 11:46 |
Laney | yes | 11:46 |
Laney | oh, maybe i'm on g-t 3.8 though | 11:46 |
asac | odd if you don't see it :) | 11:46 |
Laney | I am :-) | 11:46 |
* Laney downgrades | 11:46 | |
asac | so its gt? | 11:47 |
asac | :) | 11:47 |
Laney | ah yes, there it is | 11:47 |
Laney | so fixed by upgrading gnome-terminal | 11:47 |
asac | Laney: hmm. did gnome-terminal not yet change compared to raring? | 11:47 |
Laney | no, but vte and gtk did which could have done something | 11:48 |
asac | kk | 11:48 |
Laney | anyway if you want the new one faster go and ask doko about https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697475 | 11:48 |
Sweetsha1k | seb128: note that I did not try to rebuild LO on armhf with the new toolchain yet, after all LO itself didnt change much. OTOH, compilers might have special needs on e.g. armhf. | 11:49 |
ubot2 | Gnome bug 697475 in general "New tab is not opened in same directory as previous tab" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 11:49 |
Laney | I figure if people keep pinging him then he'll make some time to look at it :P | 11:49 |
asac | i have no strong feelings about the new one :) | 11:49 |
seb128 | Sweetsha1k, ok | 11:49 |
asac | think this bug would be good to understand though | 11:49 |
asac | maybe it has other unpleasant effects on more important parts of desktop etc. | 11:49 |
Laney | I would say it's more likely to be a gnome-terminal bug | 11:50 |
* Laney has a look | 11:50 | |
asac | Laney: what is doko supposed to do there? | 11:52 |
Laney | https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-terminal/commit/?id=611e93f2f8c0c18ed8d365ecb850258e8d5c9c12 | 11:52 |
asac | Laney: so thgat means it was in raring too? | 11:52 |
Laney | we don't know how to get vte.sh sourced in non-login shells | 11:52 |
asac | interesting that i didnt notice for all that time :) | 11:52 |
asac | but is possible | 11:52 |
asac | Laney: why do you need that? | 11:53 |
Laney | seems like it | 11:53 |
Laney | asac: it's required for the thing where new tabs stay in the same directory that you're currently in | 11:53 |
asac | ok... how was that done before? | 11:53 |
Laney | I suppose it's not a /blocker/ but people do use/like it | 11:53 |
Laney | don't know | 11:53 |
asac | sure i like it :) ... its a blocker | 11:53 |
asac | maybe gnome-terminal should revert to previous approach :) | 11:54 |
asac | wonder if there is really a need to innovate in that area | 11:54 |
Laney | it's a bit annoying but I don't know that it's a fight worth having | 11:55 |
asac | *shrug* ... just dont understand why folks would do changes that requires something that they dont know how to do :) | 11:55 |
Laney | it works on fedora™ | 11:56 |
asac | ic | 11:56 |
Laney | (because there they source /etc/profile.d/* for non-login shells too) | 11:56 |
asac | do we need a new terminal? | 11:57 |
asac | :) | 11:57 |
asac | i think it works pretty good as is | 11:57 |
asac | yeah | 11:57 |
Laney | not if you like backporting patches | 11:57 |
asac | i think checking why they do that and why we don't would be good | 11:57 |
Laney | right, that's the doko question | 11:57 |
asac | what type of patches would we expect? | 11:57 |
asac | that we want? beyond such one liner bugs like the commit above | 11:58 |
Laney | well, for example the new version ports from the deprecated gconf to gsettings | 11:58 |
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mitya57 | Laney, asac: in 3.8 gnome-terminal was split into gnome-terminal-server and gnome-terminal (client), I think this is the reason | 11:59 |
Laney | probably some parts can't communicate any more | 12:00 |
asac | was that done to allow remote/over-the-wire terminal hacking? like screen/bip etc.? | 12:02 |
asac | or just an architecture uplevel? | 12:02 |
mitya57 | maybe… now all processes you run (including bash) have gnome-terminal-server as a parent, not gnome-terminal | 12:02 |
mlankhorst | gnome-terminal-server? does it support vt100s? | 12:02 |
mitya57 | this also means that if something gets wrong with gnome-terminal, processes won't be killed | 12:03 |
asac | and you can reconnect? | 12:03 |
asac | really like bip | 12:03 |
mitya57 | I don't see anything like that in the UI | 12:05 |
* mitya57 can find only: --disable-factory: Do not register with the activation nameserver, do not re-use an active terminal | 12:08 | |
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jbicha | Laney: the only explanation I found for the vte.sh idea was https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-terminal/commit/?id=cf3cad87 | 12:36 |
Laney | jbicha: interesting, thanks for the find | 12:38 |
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asac | Unity QML in archive (Unity Next) | 12:59 |
asac | that was forecasted to happen in early jun | 12:59 |
asac | is that still the forecast? | 12:59 |
asac | seb128: ? | 12:59 |
asac | didrocks: ? | 13:00 |
seb128 | asac, didrocks probably knows better but probably not "early" in any case | 13:00 |
asac | ok, but 13.06 is still the goal it feels | 13:00 |
asac | :) | 13:00 |
seb128 | asac, we have https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-s-unity8-on-desktop targetted at 13.07 | 13:01 |
seb128 | asac, we will need to land Mir in the archive first | 13:01 |
didrocks | asac: we need MIR first, and this is getting delayed | 13:01 |
didrocks | asac: so need to sync up with kgunn first, and that's planned this week | 13:02 |
asac | ok | 13:02 |
asac | didrocks: is he usually around on this channel>? | 13:03 |
asac | kgunn? | 13:03 |
didrocks | asac: I don't think so, rather #ubuntu-unity | 13:03 |
seb128 | or #ubuntu-mir | 13:03 |
didrocks | as well :) | 13:03 |
seb128 | he just left to reboot though | 13:03 |
seb128 | he should be back in a minute | 13:03 |
asac | not interested in the desktop :) | 13:03 |
asac | hehe | 13:03 |
asac | kk | 13:03 |
didrocks | heh :) | 13:04 |
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didrocks | Mirv: sil2100: cyphermox: kenvandine: reminder, team meeting today, same time than the usual one :) | 13:34 |
kenvandine | didrocks, ok | 13:34 |
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Mirv | sure | 14:02 |
sil2100 | didrocks: I'll be on, although while mobile for a moment ;) | 14:06 |
attente | Trevinho, bregma, hey | 14:32 |
attente | do you know what's happening with the libunity-dev unity 7.0 mismatch? | 14:32 |
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sil2100 | didrocks: regading the python-evdev packaging - I uploaded some fixes now | 14:47 |
sil2100 | didrocks: but... we'll be actually rebasing on a new version | 14:47 |
sil2100 | didrocks: someone made a review of the package in debian and some upstream fixes were needed, so the developer wants to release a new upstream version with all the fixes | 14:48 |
sil2100 | didrocks: we will then be also changeing the source package name | 14:48 |
sil2100 | didrocks: since now it's evdev, but he'll release it as python-evdev (the tarball) | 14:48 |
didrocks | sil2100: oh, I already uploaded to ubuntu | 14:49 |
didrocks | sil2100: it's in NEW | 14:49 |
didrocks | sil2100: let me reject it | 14:50 |
didrocks | done | 14:50 |
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sil2100 | didrocks: awesome! He'll be uploading the tarball soon, so I guess the realistical date for it to get uploaded again would be tomorrow ;) | 14:55 |
sil2100 | But I'll prepare everything and poke you to pull the packages then! | 14:55 |
didrocks | ok :) | 14:57 |
* Laney holds cyphermox | 15:05 | |
Laney | eds transitions are pure pain - I now admire you for doing it before | 15:05 |
Laney | how come evolution-indicator is PS but is also distropatched quite a lot? | 15:10 |
Mirv | sil2100: sounds nice! | 15:21 |
seb128 | Laney, that's what happens when you can't get review from "upstream" (or when nobody wants to claim ownership) | 15:26 |
seb128 | Laney, I though cyphermox got most of the patches merged last cycle though? | 15:26 |
cyphermox | moo? | 15:26 |
cyphermox | Laney: transition, so you mean everything outside of eds/evo right? | 15:27 |
cyphermox | like, gnome-panel and the like? | 15:27 |
Laney | yeah all of that | 15:27 |
cyphermox | stay tuned, if we end up updating evo more than once this cycle like usual... | 15:27 |
Laney | seb128: apparently not | 15:27 |
cyphermox | what patches were those? | 15:28 |
cyphermox | we ended up removing more stuff than actually patching though | 15:28 |
Laney | like porting to 3.6 and some others | 15:28 |
seb128 | Laney, outdated/wrong vcs? | 15:28 |
cyphermox | and I thought I actually sent those to bts :/ | 15:28 |
Laney | ah, https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/evolution-indicator/apply-patches/+merge/134922 | 15:28 |
cyphermox | err | 15:28 |
cyphermox | evolution-indicator is special | 15:28 |
cyphermox | there's a bunch of stuff in trunk now | 15:29 |
cyphermox | actually, everything should be in trunk | 15:29 |
Laney | don't think so | 15:29 |
kenvandine | Laney, fginther is going to update the jenkins jobs for those CI failures | 15:44 |
Laney | r0x0r | 15:45 |
Laney | can I/you upload libfriends in the meantime? | 15:45 |
Laney | it's the last thing for the transition (and will make the job go manual anyway due to packaging changes?) | 15:45 |
kenvandine | Laney, sure | 15:46 |
Laney | kenvandine: sweet | 15:46 |
sil2100 | o/ | 15:59 |
didrocks | cyphermox: kenvandine: sil2100: Mirv: hey guys! | 15:59 |
didrocks | delayed team meeting now! :-) | 15:59 |
cyphermox | o/ | 15:59 |
sil2100 | here, although typong a bit slowly | 16:00 |
Mirv | hello | 16:00 |
didrocks | I hope everything's fine guys! | 16:00 |
Mirv | sil2100: typoing slowly! :) | 16:00 |
didrocks | ok, let's try to get this done :-) | 16:00 |
didrocks | everyone updated on https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dHFtUmlPOUtCRk8zR2dtaEpIbUVhMmc&pli=1#gid=0 ? | 16:01 |
sil2100 | yes, more or less o/ | 16:01 |
Mirv | I decided to mark the saucy/raring 5.0.2 megaitem as done, no need to expand it forever | 16:01 |
cyphermox | tbh, nothing I can update atm; I've been only on ofono stuff | 16:01 |
didrocks | hehe, let's try to do more with less then! :) | 16:01 |
didrocks | yeah, Mirv, nice work on Qt 5.0.2 | 16:01 |
didrocks | I'll archive it :) | 16:02 |
Mirv | thanks | 16:02 |
didrocks | so saucy is Qt-ready once we'll get the touch components in | 16:02 |
didrocks | right? | 16:02 |
Mirv | yes, it's already Qt ready, it's just not Ubuntu Touch ready. | 16:02 |
didrocks | sweet! \o/ | 16:03 |
cyphermox | but as soon as that's done, I'll finish making misc build on saucy rather than raring, that's long overdue | 16:03 |
didrocks | speaking about touch, so sil2100, mind updating us on it? | 16:03 |
Mirv | some snapshot modules could use an update, and Qt Creator, but mainly it just works already | 16:03 |
didrocks | cyphermox: there is an item on the bottom on that, we'll get to it ;) | 16:03 |
cyphermox | yup, that's what I meant ;) | 16:03 |
kenvandine | hey | 16:03 |
didrocks | hey kenvandine, nice to have you back ;) | 16:04 |
kenvandine | nice to be back :) | 16:04 |
didrocks | (back with your back :p) | 16:05 |
didrocks | sil2100: ? | 16:05 |
kenvandine | hehe | 16:05 |
sil2100 | yes? ;) | 16:05 |
sil2100 | ah! | 16:05 |
didrocks | 18:03:17 didrocks | speaking about touch, so sil2100, mind updating us on it? | 16:05 |
sil2100 | stupid irssi | 16:05 |
didrocks | it being the touch components status :) | 16:05 |
sil2100 | ok, so, all was going good until the recent regression | 16:06 |
sil2100 | once this gets out of the way, we should be good again | 16:06 |
sil2100 | ill be pushing this till night today | 16:07 |
didrocks | sil2100: good luck! | 16:07 |
didrocks | let's hope everything's will be on rails soon :) | 16:07 |
didrocks | sil2100: python-evdev, I should UNDO it, right? | 16:08 |
sil2100 | ill rerun the stack then, they said reverting works, but hope theyll fix it in a better way | 16:08 |
didrocks | ok :) | 16:08 |
didrocks | Mirv: note that sil2100 will probably rerun your stack then ^ | 16:08 |
sil2100 | ill update the sheet once we have thanew packaging | 16:09 |
Mirv | oh no, my stack! | 16:09 |
didrocks | ok, let's skip over next items: I guess no progress on the unity hang in tests (and we didn't have it for a long time, crossing fingers), webcreds, kenvandine is waiting on otto | 16:09 |
didrocks | Mirv: heh :p | 16:09 |
didrocks | Mirv: unity SRU! | 16:09 |
didrocks | what's up? | 16:09 |
didrocks | did you poke strongly enough? :) | 16:09 |
Mirv | didrocks: haven't gotten a reply, so not strong enough, didn't poke anyone personally | 16:09 |
didrocks | Mirv: I guess strike 2 is that :) | 16:10 |
Mirv | from the last discussion it was about clear that they have the tools/scripts, and know what should be done | 16:10 |
didrocks | the update is stuck for almost a month now | 16:10 |
sil2100 | i guess the unity issue either resolvd itself or it does not cause super problems due to the screenlocking disabled globally | 16:10 |
didrocks | Mirv: targets can be found at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sru/+members#active | 16:10 |
Mirv | I believe from their point of view there is no need to poke, so I'm not sure which kind of poke would be both considerate and firm at the same time | 16:10 |
didrocks | sil2100: yep | 16:10 |
didrocks | Mirv: maybe try RAOF? he's a nice guy and can review | 16:11 |
seb128 | infinity said he's fine to be pinged about pending ones | 16:11 |
didrocks | a pity we have done a SRU with a good fix for some netbook and nobody can get it | 16:11 |
didrocks | Mirv: mind checking between infinity, RAOF, dave as well? | 16:12 |
Mirv | ok, pinging phase 2: /msg:s | 16:12 |
Mirv | will do | 16:12 |
didrocks | :) | 16:12 |
didrocks | thanks! | 16:12 |
didrocks | sil2100: 100scopes! updating everybody on it? | 16:12 |
sil2100 | ok, so the mir bug is created for the scopes (will chexk the status once im back), the same for needs packaging | 16:14 |
sil2100 | the latter was unneede, but i filled in anyway by mistake | 16:14 |
sil2100 | all is merged and building for raring, but... | 16:14 |
didrocks | (suspens ;)) | 16:15 |
sil2100 | we still have yoo many ap failures, above the threahold | 16:15 |
didrocks | any progress on that? | 16:15 |
sil2100 | there seems to be an ap bug thats being wrked on by veebers | 16:16 |
sil2100 | so i guess hell update it latee today only, as it needs some fixes | 16:16 |
didrocks | ok, just keep tracking it and look for results :) | 16:16 |
sil2100 | will be updating the sheet ;) | 16:17 |
didrocks | swetness! | 16:17 |
didrocks | kenvandine: anything to add on the new stack? :) | 16:17 |
didrocks | (system-settings one) | 16:17 |
didrocks | will please seb128 :) | 16:17 |
kenvandine | nothing yet | 16:17 |
kenvandine | it's building :) | 16:18 |
kenvandine | a couple examples now | 16:18 |
didrocks | so manual publishing? You don't want it in -next? | 16:18 |
kenvandine | not useful for anything more than plugin development so far | 16:18 |
kenvandine | do we want to push saucy packages to -next? | 16:18 |
didrocks | we surely can | 16:19 |
didrocks | until it's ready | 16:19 |
didrocks | to get to distro proper | 16:19 |
kenvandine | ok, i'll do that | 16:19 |
didrocks | ok, updating the spreadsheet then? | 16:19 |
kenvandine | sure | 16:19 |
didrocks | (maybe UNDO it and add that to not add an extra line) | 16:19 |
didrocks | ok, the 2 next items is me. I focused on otto and we are in a hangout as we speak with jibel to deploy it :) | 16:20 |
didrocks | it's going well | 16:20 |
didrocks | we have nice features, but will tease you guys next week | 16:20 |
didrocks | consequently, and due to the other issues like jenkins, I didn't get any chance to do the change for ignoring powerpc | 16:20 |
seb128 | kenvandine, would be good to get that landed in distro soon ;-) | 16:20 |
didrocks | (this is a trivial change, but I would prefer to cover with tests) | 16:21 |
kenvandine | seb128, indeed | 16:21 |
didrocks | ok, next is sil2100 back, unity-gtk-module, all done? | 16:21 |
sil2100 | yes ;) | 16:22 |
didrocks | ok, I'll move it to archive | 16:22 |
seb128 | it's in the archive, but mterry is being picky | 16:22 |
seb128 | with the MIR | 16:22 |
didrocks | argh :p | 16:22 |
didrocks | sil2100: tracking that ^? | 16:22 |
didrocks | with seb128's help maybe :) | 16:22 |
seb128 | wanting test at build over autopilot tests apparently :/ | 16:22 |
didrocks | hum, not possible | 16:23 |
didrocks | and for daily release, we don't really need that | 16:23 |
mterry | seb128, that doesn't sound like me. :) we talking unity-gtk-module? | 16:23 |
seb128 | mterry, yeah, maybe I didn't understand your review comment | 16:23 |
seb128 | mterry, hey btw ;-) | 16:23 |
mterry | seb128, hi! :) | 16:23 |
mterry | seb128, well, so it has autopilot tests, which is great! | 16:24 |
mterry | seb128, but jenkins CI doesn't seem to run them? Nor are they enabled as dep8 tests | 16:24 |
sil2100 | i will be lookin g into that | 16:24 |
didrocks | seb128: sil2100: mterry: mind doing that after the meeting and clarifying? | 16:24 |
didrocks | to not block everyone on it :) | 16:24 |
mterry | oh sorry | 16:25 |
didrocks | (we are almost over) | 16:25 |
didrocks | mterry: no no,no worry, just stays around for the next 5 minutes :) | 16:25 |
seb128 | wfm | 16:25 |
didrocks | Mirv: anything to add on your Qt work? (we don't want to push the 5.1 beta too early :p) | 16:25 |
sil2100 | ok | 16:26 |
Mirv | didrocks: not much. some Qt love for precise/quantal, more details in my Qt release management doc. Qt 5.1 beta is purely for PPA, since some would need that to start get ridding of our qtwebkit DPR patch | 16:26 |
didrocks | Mirv: do not hesitate if you need reviews/sponsoring | 16:26 |
Mirv | (devicePixelResolution) | 16:26 |
didrocks | Mirv: yeah, that would be nice! | 16:26 |
Mirv | didrocks: sure, when I do something uploadable for saucy I'll contact | 16:27 |
didrocks | ok, finally, I have 2 victims to find for the 2 new tasks for next week ;) | 16:27 |
didrocks | thanks Mirv | 16:27 |
didrocks | 1. "daily release of libpam-freerdp" | 16:27 |
didrocks | I added comments about how to contact and what to do | 16:27 |
didrocks | kenvandine: I was thinking about you for this new stack, should ask not a lot of work :) | 16:27 |
didrocks | are you ok with this? | 16:28 |
didrocks | while kenvandine is away, let's switch to task 2. "switch misc task to saucy" | 16:28 |
kenvandine | which new stack? | 16:28 |
didrocks | kenvandine: see the comment "thin client stack" | 16:29 |
didrocks | with just one component for now | 16:29 |
didrocks | libpam-freerdp | 16:29 |
didrocks | needs to check the packaging, inlining, and sync up on the autopilot job we need to check | 16:29 |
didrocks | are you fine with it? | 16:29 |
kenvandine | i guess :) | 16:30 |
didrocks | thanks! :) | 16:30 |
didrocks | and so, finally task 2: "switch misc task to saucy" | 16:30 |
didrocks | cyphermox: I think landing to saucy is just few parameters to change, and go over the ppa | 16:30 |
didrocks | (remove the dest parameter so that it's distro) | 16:31 |
cyphermox | yup | 16:31 |
didrocks | do you think you can do it today and redeploy? | 16:31 |
didrocks | sergio wants phablet-tools in saucy ASAP | 16:31 |
cyphermox | should be able to yes | 16:31 |
didrocks | (and we are fine with the android-audiosystem bits) | 16:31 |
cyphermox | will do in two steps, one for saucy first, and if it builds okay to distro | 16:31 |
didrocks | I check the build-deps, nothing we don't have :) | 16:31 |
didrocks | good! | 16:31 |
didrocks | thanks cyphermox :) | 16:31 |
cyphermox | sure | 16:31 |
didrocks | ok, I added a task for me as well to talk about unity 8 | 16:31 |
didrocks | and have some planning around MIR and unity 8 landing | 16:32 |
didrocks | finally, just one last thing | 16:32 |
didrocks | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-2013-05-touch-landing | 16:32 |
didrocks | I will archive it for may and move to another blueprint for June | 16:32 |
didrocks | Mirv: sil2100 cyphermox kenvandine: mind updating it today (or early tomorrow morning for Mirv ;)) so that I can archive it? ^ | 16:32 |
kenvandine | sure | 16:33 |
cyphermox | ok | 16:33 |
sil2100 | ok, in max 2 hours ;) | 16:33 |
Mirv | ok | 16:33 |
didrocks | thanks everyone! good job, we are close to get touch done :-) | 16:33 |
didrocks | and think about keeping your stack green, will be easier soon thanks to otto | 16:34 |
sil2100 | ok, thanks! | 16:34 |
didrocks | (will probably move one stack after another seamlessly ;)) | 16:34 |
didrocks | have a good week! :-) | 16:34 |
kenvandine | didrocks, when can we have otto? | 16:34 |
kenvandine | :-D | 16:34 |
seb128 | mterry, so, the issue is that autopilot tests are not plugged into the CI? | 16:35 |
cyphermox | didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/cupstream2distro-config/saucy-misc/+merge/166299 | 16:35 |
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didrocks | kenvandine: probably wiring a real one tomorrow :) | 16:36 |
didrocks | kenvandine: then, we'll enable that slowly | 16:36 |
didrocks | so seb128, mterry, sil2100: the stage is yours :) | 16:36 |
didrocks | cyphermox: approved, poke me for stage 2 :) | 16:37 |
mterry | seb128, yeah. (Or also that it doesn't have dep8 tests). I'd just like the autopilot tests to be run sometime | 16:55 |
mterry | seb128, CI is preferable I guess, plus more in line with autolanding best practices | 16:56 |
seb128 | mterry, hum, I assumed that autopilots tests were run like for unity | 16:56 |
seb128 | didrocks, sil2100: what needs to happen for that to be the case? | 16:56 |
didrocks | they are run apparently: | 16:58 |
didrocks | unity-gtk-module-autopilot is installed | 16:58 |
didrocks | and I see that autopilot should run unity-gtk-module | 16:58 |
mterry | didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity-gtk-module/substvars/+merge/166120 | 16:58 |
mterry | didrocks, I don't see them being run there | 16:58 |
didrocks | mterry: it's not on per merge, but per daily release | 16:59 |
mterry | didrocks, ah, but they can be per-merge right? I'm pretty sure I've seen that | 16:59 |
didrocks | mterry: something to ask to mmrazik | 16:59 |
didrocks | not us | 17:00 |
mterry | didrocks, but as long as they are being run per daily release, that's fine | 17:00 |
didrocks | yeah :) | 17:00 |
mterry | seb128, OK. I got confused by CI config. They are enabled per-daily, but not per-merge | 17:00 |
mterry | seb128, I'll comment in bug | 17:00 |
didrocks | thanks :) | 17:00 |
seb128 | mterry, didrocks: thanks | 17:01 |
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* didrocks waves good evening | 17:28 | |
* Laney mops his brow - afaik just empathy left for eds 3.8 now | 17:40 | |
Laney | a good job for tomorrow morning | 17:40 |
asac | seb128: didrocks leaving early? | 18:07 |
asac | thought he was one of the old school folks :) | 18:07 |
asac | hehe | 18:07 |
seb128 | asac, yeah, times change ... but I'm glad to see that the hard workers are still around, ogra_ told me that you will be working tomorrow (not like those other lazy germans) | 18:52 |
ogra_ | well, his state has no public holiday tomorrow ... | 18:53 |
ogra_ | he just picked the wrong place to liive :P | 18:53 |
seb128 | ogra_, isn't he living close from pitti? (who has an holiday tomorrow)? | 19:03 |
ogra_ | nah, pitti lives in the south ... asac north | 19:08 |
ogra_ | i'm somewhere between them | 19:08 |
czajkowski | iin the middle of no where :p | 19:09 |
ogra_ | yeah, pretty much | 19:09 |
ogra_ | ugliest town in germany ... | 19:09 |
asac | seb128: i am on :) | 19:19 |
asac | 1st jun officially even | 19:19 |
asac | so more fun on this and other channels at all times | 19:20 |
seb128 | asac, sorry to disappoint but don't count on too many people to be there for you on the 1st, we still work hard here but we stopped IRC during weekends ;-) | 19:20 |
seb128 | asac, you should get a nice welcome back on monday though ;-) | 19:21 |
asac | nice :) | 19:21 |
asac | and yes, i understand taht weekends are good for showering and eating. | 19:22 |
seb128 | hehe | 19:22 |
mterry | robert_ancell, does LightDM use the C locale with PAM, or will it actually get translated prompts back from it? | 19:58 |
robert_ancell | mterry, in trunk it uses the correct locale, in older versions the C locale | 19:59 |
robert_ancell | actually the default locale | 19:59 |
mterry | robert_ancell, hrm. Doesn't each user have a locale that we could use for that? | 19:59 |
mterry | a session locale | 19:59 |
robert_ancell | hmm, now not 100% sure about the last statement there | 19:59 |
robert_ancell | yes, that's what's fixed in trunk, though it probably doesn't work for PAM sessions where the username isn't known in advance. | 20:00 |
robert_ancell | I'm not really 100% sure about any of these statements - needs some testing / regression testing :) | 20:00 |
mterry | :) | 20:01 |
GunnarHj | mterry: Hi Michael, may I ask for a small favour? | 20:05 |
mterry | GunnarHj, sure | 20:05 |
GunnarHj | mterry: Just updated my saucy partition, and now the boot fails. It ends up with this on the screen: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gunnarhj/saucy-boot-failure.txt | 20:07 |
GunnarHj | mterry: Do you know of any simple step to fix it? | 20:07 |
mterry | GunnarHj, looks like your system got interrupted in the middle of an apt-get upgrade | 20:08 |
mterry | Specifically, the udev package is not finished updating | 20:08 |
GunnarHj | mterry: Ok. | 20:09 |
mterry | GunnarHj, in your busybox prompt.. | 20:09 |
mterry | GunnarHj, do you have access to the system in read/write mode? | 20:09 |
mterry | GunnarHj, can you do: sudo dpkg --configure -a | 20:09 |
mterry | er, I guess you don't need the sudo | 20:10 |
mterry | GunnarHj, this problem is probably better dealt with in #ubuntu if you want to hop in there with me. | 20:10 |
GunnarHj | mterry: Don't know - need to switch partition to check... | 20:10 |
GunnarHj | mterry: Sure, I'll go to #ubuntu | 20:10 |
Laney | stgraber: Can I bother you for a rescore on https://launchpad.net/~laney/+archive/evolution-3.8/+build/4624368 and https://launchpad.net/~laney/+archive/evolution-3.8/+build/4624369 please? | 20:23 |
Laney | the PPA got caught up in the gnome-desktop3 transition so anything which depends on evolution in there is FTBFSing | 20:24 |
Laney | which is pretty annoying when the build queues are as they are | 20:24 |
stgraber | Laney: done | 20:25 |
Laney | ta | 20:25 |
davidcalle | sil2100, MIR comments fixed, thanks for the heads up about the bug :) | 20:59 |
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