[00:17] <darkxst> jbicha, although maybe they are two different crashes ;(
[09:35] <Guest16452> hello
[12:49] <meet> i installed the gnome 3.8 on ubuntu gnome 13.04 but I am not getting all the options. Like there is no settings for privacy or notification,etc. What could  be wrong?
[12:50] <mgedmin> meet, only a subset of gnome 3.8 is in ubuntu 13.04; more of it is in the gnome3 PPA, and the remaining bits are in the staging PPA
[12:51] <mgedmin> (but the bits in staging PPA have problems, so beware)
[12:54] <meet> mgedmin: I added the gnome3 ppa infact and did dist-upgrade. Anyway, when will the whole thing be available then?
[12:55] <mgedmin> I don't know
[12:55] <mgedmin> I wouldn't hold my breath
[14:33] <a1l3erto> hello everyone
[14:33] <a1l3erto> i have a question
[14:34] <a1l3erto> i just installed ubuntu-gnome, and dual-boot with kubuntu
[14:35] <a1l3erto> the problem is, when the kernel is updated on ubuntu-gnome, the grub entries update and no problem, but if the kernel of the other system installed (kubuntu) updates, then the new kernel's entry will not appear...
[14:38] <a1l3erto> If I update the grub from kubuntu, the grub menu wont update itself, but if i update it from the ubuntu-gnome system, then everything works...
[14:39] <mgedmin> yes
[14:39] <a1l3erto> and the same happens on my other computer where i have debian and trisquel. Grub will only update properly if i update it from the last system i installed (debian)...
[14:40] <a1l3erto> oh do you mgedmin?
[14:40] <mgedmin> I don't dualboot between two linuxes
[14:40] <mgedmin> but if I did, I'd get them to use separate bootloaders
[14:40] <mgedmin> one of them installed into the linux partition rather than the MBR
[14:41] <mgedmin> and each configured with a boot menu option to chain-load the other grub
[14:41] <a1l3erto> oh ok,
[14:43] <a1l3erto> do you mean it is not a good idea to have two linux systems or just that you only have one installed?
[14:43] <mgedmin> I don't see the point of having two
[14:44] <a1l3erto> ok
[14:44] <mgedmin> (or, rather, I use virtual machines for the purpose of playing with different distros)
[14:44] <a1l3erto> just wanted to try them... yep, now i realize that.... im quite an enthusiastic newbie
[14:45] <a1l3erto> and didnt think before doing it...:)
[14:46] <a1l3erto> so, what can i do to fix this mess..? any easy idea?
[14:46] <a1l3erto> or not so easy?
[14:47] <a1l3erto> is it possible to 'uninstall' one of them?
[14:48] <IdleOne> depends, how did you install kubuntu?
[14:50] <a1l3erto> i installed it the first one, on the whole hardisk
[14:50] <IdleOne> ok, and ubuntu-gnome is on a separate disk?
[14:50] <a1l3erto> and home on a different partition
[14:50] <a1l3erto> no, on a separate partition
[14:50] <IdleOne> they share /home?
[14:50] <a1l3erto> noç
[14:51] <a1l3erto> no
[14:51] <a1l3erto> ubuntu-gnome has its home on same partition
[14:51] <IdleOne> so, you only have 1 hard disk?
[14:52] <a1l3erto> i thought it wouldnt be a good idea to share /home, is it?
[14:52] <a1l3erto> yes..
[14:52] <a1l3erto> only 1
[14:53] <IdleOne> alright, first thing is backups. make sure you have backups of your data (stuff you do not want to lose)
[14:54] <a1l3erto> ok
[14:54] <IdleOne> you have kubuntu on the first partition and gnome on the second?
[14:54] <a1l3erto> yes
[14:54] <a1l3erto> well, home on the second, gnome on the third
[14:56] <IdleOne> This will make it a little more dangerous. You can format the kubuntu partition, then you could move the gnome partition over to the first partition...I would personally make my backups, reinstall ubuntu gnome on the first partiton (don't format the partition with your /home)
[14:57] <IdleOne> after all that is done and you know it is working, then format the third partition with the old gnome install.
[14:58] <IdleOne> others might have better attack plans.
[14:59] <a1l3erto> that looks good, the only problem is I would like to keep kubuntu. This is a new laptop which, i dont know why, works better with ubuntu 12.10
[15:00] <IdleOne> ok.
[15:00] <IdleOne> you could try os-prober when booted to kubuntu. sudo apt-get install os-prober && sudo os-prober
[15:00] <a1l3erto> it runs faster and it recognises the screen brightness control... while 13.04 doesnt, dont know why by the way...
[15:00] <IdleOne> os-prober will look for other install OS'es and update grub
[15:02] <a1l3erto> ok, thanks a lot
[15:02] <IdleOne> os-prober is pretty awesome if you ask me. I have two hard drives one with ubuntu and the second hard drive has windows 7. the ubuntu hard drive is first and os-prober was the only thing that helped me to see and add windows to grub
[15:03] <a1l3erto> nice, i will try it and tell you back
[15:04] <IdleOne> good luck :)
[15:04] <a1l3erto> by the way, is trying to restore the grub a bit dangerous?
[15:04] <a1l3erto> i mean re-install it
[15:04] <IdleOne> it can be if you do it wrong, you could end up with a non booting system
[15:07] <IdleOne> Did I just make a giant mistake by doing a do-release-upgrade -d ?
[16:44] <lirex> Hello,  lightdm in Ubuntu has the opportunity to start a guest session. How can you build this in GDM?
[21:08] <bennypr0fane> hello, I'm assuming that U-Gnome makes fixes and updates to Gnome 3.6, yes? If so, does that increase the likelihood of 3.6 ever coming to the 12.04 repos?
[21:58] <darkxst> bennypr0fane, its simply not possible to get 3.6 into 12.04
[22:52] <ikus060> Hello, I was about to install ubuntu-gnome and I'm wondering whats is the procedure to create a bootable usb-stick
[22:52] <ikus060> is it the same as debian, i.e. cp file.ico /dev/sdb
[22:52] <ikus060> ?
[23:27] <FrozenFire> Hrmm, that's annoying. When I click to unmount a network resource in Nautilus, in the left panel, it unmounts it, but then tries to navigate there.
[23:28] <FrozenFire> Had to right click the unmount symbol to trigger it, but not trigger the navigation