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Noskcaj_schoolHas a bug been made for a transmission testcase?02:22
SergioMenesesNoskcaj_school, there was one02:30
SergioMenesesNoskcaj_school, look https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/111565502:31
ubot5Launchpad bug 1115655 in Ubuntu Manual Tests trunk "Test Needed: Transmission" [Wishlist,Fix released]02:31
Noskcaj_schoolok, i'll try an autopilot when i get home02:31
SergioMenesesNoskcaj_school, perfect! take care02:33
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pittiGood morning03:32
DanChapmanAnyone about this morning?08:42
NoskcajDanChapman, this evening, and yes08:44
Noskcajhoward would be normally, but he has exams08:45
DanChapmanAhh hey Noskcaj, do you have familiarity with python? Im currently working on a fileroller autopilot test. And for the life of me can't find a way to delete a tar ball or any type of archive for that matter.08:46
NoskcajDanChapman, i don't have much experience. i recommend you ask one of the devs or put it on stackexchange. also, make sure ever revision is up on LP08:47
DanChapmanok cool, thanks Noskcaj08:48
brendandDanChapman, os.unlink doesn't work?08:52
brendandDanChapman, did you try that?08:52
DanChapmanooo ill try that :)08:53
brendandDanChapman, it definitely should. nothing special about a tarball08:54
brendandDanChapman, if it doesn't work then let me know08:54
DanChapmanbrendand, still not working08:57
DanChapmanOSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '~/fr_autopilot_test_archive.tar.bz2 '08:57
brendandDanChapman, yeah - python doesn't automatically understand ~/08:59
DanChapmaneven without ~/ brendand its still the same09:00
brendandDanChapman, i think it's os.path.expandpath09:00
brendandDanChapman, and the script is run from the same directory as the .bz2 file?09:00
brendandDanChapman, well try 'os.unlink(os.path.expanduser('~/fr_autopilot_test_archive.tar.bz2'))'09:02
DanChapmanbrendand that sorted it thankyou :D09:16
brendandDanChapman, btw if you copied the error directly from the terminal, i should also point out you can't have spaces at the end of the filename (i don't think) ;)09:17
brendandDanChapman, glad i could help09:17
DanChapmanpitti, am i able to relaunch an application during an autopilot test. In fileroller i need to open an archive, but first i need to create an archive, close the window then relaunch so i can open the created archive. Can i just call self.setUp()?10:47
pittiDanChapman: I don't know what AutopilotTestCase.setUp() does, I think it's safer to just call self.launch_test_application() again10:49
DanChapmanpitti, ok will give it a go10:50
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DanChapmanballoons, have done those changes to fire-roller and it seems to be in good shape now. Am now working on changes to evince. Get rid of those horrid keyboard navigations :S14:44
asacdoanac: who is the master of the tests?15:05
asacin QA te4am?15:05
asace.g. who decides what tests to integrate, what to run where etc.?15:05
doanacasac: i think gema owns that15:06
balloonsDanChapman, howdy..15:10
DanChapmanyo :D15:11
balloonsok, I can review them again.. file-roller should be good to go now. I had trouble with evince. Probably because of all the keyboard navigation.. lots of tests failed for me15:11
DanChapmanYeah im cutting out as much keyboard as possible in evince,15:13
balloons:-)15:13
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DanChapmanballoons, in what situation would you use AutopilotTestCase.pick_app_launcher? Ive only just noticed it in the docs and wasnt sure as you can give launch_test_application a path if required.17:23
DanChapmanoops you cant giv launch_test_app a path. :S my bad17:25
DanChapmanBut does it return a proxy object with introsepection data available through pick_app_launcher?17:26
balloonsDanChapman, I've never used pick_app_launcher, so I don't think I can say :-)17:45
DanChapmanballoons, ok no worries.  I'll leave it for a day i might need it :-)17:46
balloonsthe pad is looking good.. we're close to completing the conversions :)17:54
knomeballoons, did you get to look at my merge proposal?17:55
balloonsknome, it's on the list for today :-)17:55
knomeoki17:55
knometell me if you need help17:55
balloonsjust finishing up some migration work17:55
knome(i'm a bit sick but should be able to answer questions :P)17:55
balloonsknome, sorry to hear that :-( But thank you!17:55
knomenp. fortunately i can take some days off work, would be much worse if i couldn't17:56
DanChapmanballoons, yeah, pad is filling up now, hopefully we could have them all converted before the next hackfest :D18:01
knomewhat converted?18:01
DanChapmanknome, porting autopilot tests to 1.318:02
knomeaha18:02
knomewon't touch those! ;)18:02
DanChapman:D18:02
balloonsknome, hehe.. they're not SO bad18:04
knomeno, but i don't understand python and don't intend to18:04
balloonsknome, ahh, I gotcha.18:07
balloonsIn that regard, I'm glad you have web skills :-)18:07
knomewe all got to compensate for our lacking pythong skills somehow ;)18:08
DanChapmanHi Letozaf19:01
Letozaf_Hi DanChapman19:02
Letozaf_DanChapman, howzit ?19:03
DanChapmanYeah not bad feel a bit wacked now though, you? any luck with gedit?19:04
Letozaf_DanChapman, I'm quite fine, I'm going to look at gedit now, yesterday night was late and went to bed :p19:05
Letozaf_DanChapman, anyway balloons told me to let go the INS and OVR stuff and so probably it won't take long to propose to merge19:06
balloons:-)19:06
Letozaf_balloons, hey19:06
DanChapmanpersonally i had never even noticed it changed down in that corner anyway.19:06
Letozaf_balloons, :p19:06
balloonsI'm running a bit behind on all the merge proposal's :-)19:06
balloonsI'm trying to archive off the raring stats and push out the saucy version19:07
Letozaf_balloons, yeah, well it's nice to hear you're running behind the merge proposals, means there are a lot :p19:07
balloonshehe.. yes a good problem to have!19:09
Letozaf_balloons, by the way do you want me to fix the gedit test and re-submit a merge or what ?19:11
DanChapmanballoons, Letozaf_, have either of you ever been able to introspect the global menu? My mouse just won't go to it at the moment and get screen flicker19:11
DanChapmanit shows up in vis, so i would of thought its possibel19:12
Letozaf_DanChapman, never tried19:12
balloonsDanChapman, indeed, never tried19:13
balloonskeyboard shortcuts should work well enough if needed..19:13
balloonsLetozaf_, yes certainly19:13
balloonsand don't forget you can help by reviewing other merge proposals.. I don't have to be the only one ;-)19:13
Letozaf_balloons, I will fix gedit an then have a look19:16
phillwballoons: is this news worthy? http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/intel-linux-graphics-installer.html19:16
DanChapmanI will keep trying, there must be a way, it would be good to test that the menu items are there and work i suppose. But will resort to keyboard if needed19:16
Letozaf_balloons, should I leave the _find stuff commented in the gedit test or remove it ?19:20
balloonsLetozaf_, meh, remove it as it's really just debugging stuff19:26
balloonsohh.. you wanted to leave it in as a comment..19:27
balloonshmm.. yea, I still think keeping the source clean is probably for the best, what do you think?19:27
knomeballoons, do you see something what i don't see?19:28
Letozaf_balloons, I think keeping the source clean is best19:28
Letozaf_balloons, too much confusion otherwise19:28
balloonsLetozaf_, k, we both agree then :=_19:29
balloonsknome, what do you mean?19:29
knomeballoons, it looked like you had a discussion with somebody i didn't see :P19:29
Letozaf_balloons, :p19:29
knomeand what kind of smiley is ":=_" ?19:30
knome:D19:30
balloonsshift+019:30
knome=19:30
balloonstype too fast and shift one key to the right and :-) becomes :=_19:31
knomehehe19:31
knome? for me there... weird US kb layout people ;)19:31
knomei'm off for nwo19:32
knome*now19:32
knomehf19:32
DanChapmanRight folks i need to eat, bib19:37
Letozaf_DanChapman, bon apetit :D19:38
Letozaf_balloons, I took a look at ubuntu-autopilot-tests merge proposals, but there are only two from Dan that he has to fix and the other is mine, so I will see if I can port some other test to autopilot 1.320:00
balloonsLetozaf_, kk20:01
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NoskcajLetozaf_, did you ed up getting any code written for a transmission autopilot test?20:17
Letozaf_Noskcaj, Hi20:18
Noskcajhello20:18
Letozaf_Noskcaj, no but I can do it20:18
Letozaf_Noskcaj, I wanted to have a look at shotwell20:18
Letozaf_Noskcaj, but then I can do transmission :D20:18
Noskcaji was going to try transmission, just wondering if you'd done any work on it20:19
Letozaf_Noskcaj, I will make a note to do it after shotwell ok ?20:19
Letozaf_Noskcaj, oh!20:19
Letozaf_Noskcaj, no I haven't done anything on transmission yet20:19
Noskcajok20:19
elfyballoons: a really simple autopilot question ... can it record actions to generate a test, or do you have to pick apart from autopilot vis ?20:49
balloonselfy, no recording actions I'm afraid20:50
elfyright - thanks :)20:50
balloonsthe reason is because it's testing on a different level for the most part20:50
balloonsyour introspecting the application (mostly) not manipulating it with mouse and keyboard clicks20:50
elfyk20:50
balloonsthe upside is the test your write should be much more maintainable and work through ui changes, etc :-)20:51
elfyyep20:51
elfyshould have asked in the ustopilot channel - lderan asking the same there - for the same reason lol20:51
balloonssaucy is not being nice :-(20:51
elfyI blame hobgoblin20:51
elfyreally - try xubuntu - working lovely for me :)20:52
balloonsI actually feel rather hobbled working in a non-unity DE20:52
balloonsI have a huge monitor and I need to manage windows sanely20:53
elfylol20:53
elfysome of us never used it for longer than to get wrist aches20:53
balloonsI wasn't an immeadiate fan.. but my goodness, it's tough to work without it20:54
balloonsdo you use multiple workspaces? best invention ever once I learned how to use them properly.. they are perfect on a small laptop20:55
balloonsI do wish xfce .. wait, how did I miss this? http://www.xfce.org/about/news/?post=133557120020:56
elfyballoons: I use 2 monitors and 2 workspaces - so have 4 'screens'20:59
balloonselfy, :-) You got it.21:00
elfyand we're looking for xfce 4.1221:00
elfymouse wheel moves back and forth or I can use kbd21:00
balloonsyes, it's good too see development is ratcheting up again.. we had 4.6 for so long21:01
elfyI know it sounds silly perhaps - but my panel is at the bottom - about 20px and in the bottom right corner of the left hand monitor - so is more or less central to my work area21:02
elfynot all the way over there <----21:02
elfyhorse for courses21:02
knomeballoons, it's not really huge progress, they pretty much have one active core developer atm21:06
* balloons needs to learn to stop unplugging or bumping his pc and resetting it21:11
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SergioMeneseshi everybody!23:49

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