/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/05/29/#ubuntu-us-mi.txt

jcastronice work rick_h_01:12
rick_h_jcastro: :)01:12
jcastrowhat do you think so far?01:12
rick_h_not sure, the home page is hard to scan. Too much info across varying their size01:12
jcastroyeah01:12
jcastrohttp://15.185.233.27/categories01:13
jcastrowould be a saner homepage01:13
rick_h_the new topic 'indicator' is too much like a button and moves all over01:13
jcastroassuming the categories are all organized01:13
rick_h_yea, fought some of this with bookie: https://bmark.us/recent01:13
rick_h_trying to split out the data so that it still lines up/is scanable01:13
jcastroman dude01:14
jcastroyour gravatar is awesome01:14
jcastroI should have waited for gmb01:14
rick_h_gmb ftw01:14
rick_h_just wish I had a diff shirt but on friday was out of options in the suitcase01:15
rick_h_kind of cool though. needs some UX love. I like the display of the topics except for that footer and the 6/6 thing01:16
jcastroyeah01:16
jcastrowip01:17
jcastrostill though01:17
rick_h_definitely01:17
jcastrocompared to vbulletin?01:17
rick_h_I've been spending too much time in forums lately ugh01:17
jcastrohttp://ubuntuforums.org/forum.php01:17
rick_h_the thing is how does it scale up. The ubuntu forums are crazy for so many forums/sub forums.01:18
jcastrojuju add-unit01:18
rick_h_my woodworking forum isn't that bad. It's only a handful01:18
jcastro:)01:18
rick_h_hah, I more mean visually/usability :P01:18
jcastrothis is atwood's new thing btw.01:18
jcastroit'll scale and be awesome01:18
rick_h_http://www.semiww.org/forum/index.php looks a lot diff than http://ubuntuforums.org/forum.php01:18
jcastroyeah so this is why we set this up01:19
jcastroto answer those questions01:19
rick_h_yea, cool.01:19
snap-levening01:40
snap-llooking for topics for upcoming mug meetings (and speakets to go withthem)01:41
brouschrick_h_: You see this? http://purecss.io/12:24
rick_h_brousch: https://bmark.us/admin/recent :)12:24
rick_h_brousch: look like a cleaned up/renamed YUI CSS.12:24
brouschheh12:24
rick_h_they're using the new YUI responsive grid stuff12:24
brouschI still don't like all the row and column stuff in my html12:25
rick_h_yea, but it's tough when you want a fluid layout without it12:25
rick_h_otherwise you get a hard coded count of columns12:26
brouschhttp://semantic.gs/12:26
rick_h_ugh, less12:27
brouschI know12:27
brouschOr sass12:27
rick_h_oh, sass is ok12:27
rick_h_current work project uses less and getting cranky with it12:27
brouschThat's the cleanest grid I've found12:27
rick_h_well, you can use that grid but the pure stuff for reset, forms, etc. :)12:28
brouschPerhaps12:28
brouschWe have a big sass community here, so I've not tried less12:28
rick_h_yea, the juju gui is less and I was originally agnostic as long as you used something...now I'm turning into a hater12:29
rick_h_part of it is how we use it though so can't get too cranky with it.12:29
brouschYou're working on juju now?12:31
rick_h_yea12:31
rick_h_doing the sidebar stuff on the left of http://uistage.jujucharms.com:8080/:flags:/browser_enabled12:31
brouschlooks touch-friendly12:32
brouschbig targets12:32
rick_h_yea, should work on a tablet. I test it on my N10 once in a while12:32
brouschExpansion is not obvious12:33
brouschIs the ^ an action or a status?12:34
rick_h_it's open/collapse indicator if you're talking about the thing I think you are12:34
brouschHeh, wtf: This page is in Galacian would you like to translate it?12:34
rick_h_yea, we've not figured out why chrome wants to translate it yet12:35
brouschmaybe ceph and juju are galacian words? Crazy12:35
brouschWhen collapsed I think you need something under the second item to indicate there are more of them hidden12:36
brouschMaybe a skinny row with ... in it or something12:37
rick_h_so I guess some of the UX is brought over from Unity.12:37
brouschWhen it comes up, I see the upside down ^ and think it's already expanded12:37
rick_h_yea, I said the same thing12:37
brouschIt looks nice12:38
rick_h_I prefer the sideways/down12:38
rick_h_vs an up/down12:38
rick_h_but yea, a pure JS client side application12:38
rick_h_for managing your juju stuff12:38
rick_h_talks to a pyramid app for api data using mongodb on the back end12:39
brouschHah, just found the crazy connected icons thing on the right12:39
rick_h_the environment?12:39
rick_h_where it shows what's deployed to your cloud12:39
brouschI guess12:39
brouschIt's applications connected by lines12:39
rick_h_right, so that's the juju stuff. It's what services you've deployed to your cloud and are running and relates them together12:40
brouschnice12:40
rick_h_so deploying haproxy and connecting it to your wordpress will proxy wordpress for you12:40
brouschwow. i like the forms in pure.io12:44
brouschooo, buttons are nice too12:46
jrwrendon't attach to the same tmux session from within that tmux session. :)13:40
brouschDid you rip a hole in space and time?13:41
rick_h_jrwren: lol, done that it's fun13:41
ColonelPanic001now I want to try it.13:45
greg-ghow do I subscribe to a bug report on github?17:18
greg-gor is that "not the one true way of doing software development"? I also don't own a mac, so I might have gotten off on the wrong foot here.17:18
jrwrenlol17:20
jrwrenwhere is this?17:20
greg-g? here. I just want to know when a specific bug is fixed, that's it. And maybe comment if people need more debugging. But I don't want to leave a "just subscribing" comment on the bug17:21
brouschgreg-g: "Watch thread" at the bottom of the bug thread17:22
greg-gbut it says: "You only receive notifications for this thread when you participate or are @mentioned"17:23
greg-gnext to that button17:23
brouschRight, click that button. It's a pull-down17:23
brouschIsn't it obvious that a button is a selector?17:23
greg-gah, I have to reload for the text next to the button to make any sense anymore17:23
greg-git is obvious, but the text explaining my situation should change accordingly17:24
brouschClick it, pick Watching17:24
greg-gand then what?17:24
greg-gthere's no confirmation etc17:24
greg-gso do i click "comment"17:24
greg-gor just reload17:24
brouschSounds like a bug17:24
greg-gthe answer is reload, but that is nonintuiitive17:24
jrwrenfile a bug @ github with this chat transcript. they will fix it.17:26
greg-gjrwren: can't i just tweet? :)17:27
jrwrenyes, that will probably work :)17:31
jrwrenpretty sure github has a "turn tweet into bug" button implemented.17:32
snap-lheh17:52
snap-lI really really hate this power daemon for my UPS17:53
snap-lthe moment it hiccups the connection it'll suspend17:54
greg-gjrwren: is having WUBS hating kind of day19:33
jrwreni always hate wubs.19:34
greg-g:)19:34
jrwreni'm just having a vocal wub hating day19:34
greg-gyou're just making me smile, is all19:34
greg-g:)19:34
jrwrenomg seriously!!!19:34
jrwrenWHY greg-g ??? WHY!?!19:34
jrwrenwhy ruin some of the greatest music of all time?19:34
greg-gbecause, teenagers19:34
jrwrenwell, that single or EP or whatever is over.19:35
jrwrennow to new Code 6419:35
jrwrenif Code 64 ever adds shitty wubs, I might just have to quit the world.19:35
snap-lhttp://magnatune.com/artists/albums/kalotone-addict/ <- jrwren19:36
snap-lhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sob1t-iUCmE19:37
jrwrennooooooOOOOooOOOO !19:37
jrwrensnap-l: i did notice that Frontline assembly was dropping wubs before anyone.19:38
snap-ljrwren: Yeah, but they didn't suck19:38
jrwrenexactly.19:38
jrwrensadomasochist has sounds which I can only describe as drops, and its fucking awesome.19:38
jrwrenand that was Jan of 199819:39
snap-lThin ghtat I hate is you get this nice perky little tune, and then all of a sudden someone drops the tempo to fucking 60bpm and then starts this WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB shit19:39
jrwrenso I can blame FLA for bringing the world wubs19:39
jrwrenyes, I hate that too.19:39
snap-ldit de doot de doot de SMACK DEEEERP de DEEEEEERP de WUB wub wub wub wubba  wubba wubbababababpppppfffffft19:41
snap-lwub wub19:41
jrwreni especially find it funny when metal people get into skrillex and so they have crazy long hair and it starts flailing around to the wubs19:41
jrwrenit just doesn't match IMO19:42
greg-ghahahaha19:42
snap-lThat's liek trying to headband to the rite of spring19:42
jrwrenyou think?19:43
jcastrojrwren: is today good for you wrt. me picking up my laptop?20:09
jrwrensure20:10
jrwrencome now (like this very minute) to beat traffic.20:10
jcastrook20:10
jcastroputting pants on!20:10
jrwrenlol20:11
brouschTMI20:11
brouschI guess that's better than "taking pants off"20:12
greg-gdepends on the goal20:12
jrwrenprocreate with jorge is never the goal of #ubuntu-us-mi20:13
brouschNever say never!20:13
greg-gwho says its all about procreating?20:13
jrwreni just nit picked a wikipedia page - first edit in many years... but darnit!!!20:15
jrwrenWillie Nelson write Crazy, NOT Patsy Cline :)20:15
greg-gthank you, good sir, for your valued contribution.20:15
brouschAre there badges for wikipedia edits?20:17
brouschTime to gamify wikipedia!20:18
greg-gbrousch: dude, we've had barnstars before gamification was a word20:18
brouschBarnstars?20:18
greg-gbut it isn't your typical automatic gamification systems20:18
greg-gbrousch: there's this website that is really good at answering questions like this ;)20:19
greg-ghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Barnstars20:19
brouschI was about to tell you I couldn't find it and then relaized I typed "barstars"20:19
greg-g:)20:20
brousch"These awards are part of the Kindness Campaign and are meant to promote civility and WikiLove. They are a form of warm fuzzy: they are free to give and they bring joy to the recipient."20:20
brouschI think I'm going to puke20:21
greg-ghater20:22
brouschWarm fuzzy is what they taught my 5 year old at kindergarten :P20:24
brouschAlong with "cold prickly"20:24
jrwrenmy kid learned to fight in kindergarten.20:24
jrwrenme: "did you kick him back?"20:24
brouschNo fights yet, but my son will likely get his butt kicked20:26
jrwrenlol20:29
jrwrenpython, because foo = defaultdict(lambda: defaultdict(lambda: 0))21:40
jrwrenis a good idea21:40
gamerchick02did i walk in on a "which programming language is better" discussion?21:59
greg-ggamerchick02: don't worry, jrwren is just talking to himself, per usual22:06
gamerchick02oh.22:09
gamerchick02he'd fit right in over at work. we all talk to ourselves.22:09
snap-lI dunno, I always get afraid of editing Wikipedia articles for fear that the whole thing will be brought to someone's attention, and the whole page will be deemed irrelevant to the greater population23:26
snap-lI mean, not everything on Wikipedia can have the cultural significance of Marvel's Civil War23:26
rick_h_jrwren: one level too much foo = defaultdict(lambda: defaultdict(int)23:30
rick_h_should do the same thing23:30
rick_h_and it's justbecause you need a callable to be passed to defaultdict, and the result of defaultdict isn't a callable23:30
rick_h_don't get so lambda happy :P23:31
snap-lThus spaketh the Dalai Lambda23:32
Blazeixmathomastech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL23:55

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