[00:00] <n0yd> Linux does uefi just fine, but I found windows can really screw up the whole ordeal
[00:00] <n0yd> I just went thru the same issue with a nice hp laptop
[00:00] <whizndr-> sad really
[00:00] <rypervenche> The best solution is to just get rid of Windows all together :)
[00:00] <whizndr-> this vaio is pretty nice for $600 lol
[00:01] <sianhulo> the best option now is to build a pc
[00:01] <n0yd> I got a core-17 (3rd gen) 17 inch laptop, with 12GB of ram, for 650 bucks. i had to jump on it
[00:01] <whizndr-> i wish i could get rid of windows lol
[00:01] <sianhulo> you don't pay for windows, get a better case and save some extra money
[00:01] <Quix86> 17" is too big for me
[00:01] <Quix86> my 15" thinkpad feels huge
[00:01] <rypervenche> I'm just fine on my 14.1" :)
[00:01] <Quix86> I love my X41, 12"
[00:01] <n0yd> Also can have two internal hard drives. It came with 1TB but i added a 256SSD by samsung
[00:02] <whizndr-> itunes plus adobe keeps me on windows some of the time
[00:02] <n0yd> Quix86, I use my laptop as a desktop most of the time
[00:02] <n0yd> Its also a second monitor
[00:02] <sianhulo> I don't really find SSD useful
[00:02] <n0yd> wtf?
[00:02] <Quix86> I used to do that, I've got a mITX desktop now
[00:02] <n0yd> The speed increase is beyond noticable
[00:02] <sianhulo> it gets messed up pretty fast compared with HDD when it's almost full
[00:02] <n0yd> lol
[00:02] <sianhulo> I won't buy a storage to get messed up for using it
[00:03] <n0yd> Why would you use a SSD for normal data storage? it would cost a mint
[00:03] <Quix86> sianhulo, look into TRIM
[00:03] <sianhulo> the only use it could have is for the boot partition, and it's too expensive to use it just for that
[00:03] <Quix86> and yes stop keeping things like videos and music on it
[00:03] <n0yd> I have 4 SSD's, 2 in 2 laptops, and 2 in my desktop
[00:03] <n0yd> They are used EVERY day
[00:03] <n0yd> No problems
[00:03] <n0yd> Why just the boot partition? Use it for the whole OS
[00:03] <n0yd> But putting your mp3s and video on is just pointless
[00:03] <sianhulo> n0yd, they obviously won't get famaged in a year or 2, whow ould buy them otherwise?they still last less than hdd
[00:04] <n0yd> And I have way to much video and music to fit on a single ssd anyway
[00:04] <n0yd> sianhulo, They are stupidly worth it for the speed increase
[00:04] <n0yd> You only need like 64GB to run a whole OS
[00:04] <Quix86> sianhulo, the point of an SSD is to keep files that the system accesses on a regular basis, like the OS and games
[00:04] <sianhulo> not in my country
[00:04] <n0yd> Or even windows and linux
[00:04] <n0yd> sianhulo, a 256GB here ranges from 75 cents to a dollar a GB
[00:05] <n0yd> sometimes a little more. Depends on where you are buying, and what brand/model
[00:05] <betrayd> but yeah it is becoming the norm everywhere else
[00:05] <sianhulo> n0yd, *there*
[00:05] <n0yd> I generally stick with the Samsung 830s and 840s
[00:05] <Quix86> sianhulo, what country do you live in again?
[00:05] <sianhulo> venezuela
[00:05] <Quix86> thank you for giving money to WILLIAMS formula 1 team
[00:06] <Quix86> otherwise yes, living in a communist country will generally make things expensive
[00:06] <whizndr-> hmmmmm off to backup music
[00:06] <sianhulo> I don't even know where to start when talking about formula 1
[00:07] <Quix86> You sent us a driver that hits people and gives money to a zombie, that's all you need to know
[00:07] <sianhulo> is you critic so much the rich and the empire, why do you spend so much in formula 1?even more, why do you waste money in someone who keeps crashing?
[00:07] <sianhulo> that's beyond me
[00:07] <ClientAlive> Oh yuck! I'm on the phone w/ microsoft licensing asking about getting a system builder subscription/partner subscription
[00:07] <Quix86> Ask frankie W, I don't know
[00:07] <ClientAlive> oh gag me!
[00:08] <n0yd> ClientAlive, calling India are we?
[00:08] <n0yd> ;)
[00:08]  * rypervenche gags ClientAlive.
[00:08] <sianhulo> the only good that has done is to prove the cars security
[00:08] <ClientAlive> pretty much man  --lol
[00:08] <Iceman_B> ClientAlive: ask them if they want to talk to the Windows Technical Support people
[00:08] <ClientAlive> no doubt
[00:08] <Anxi80> Microsoft's partner program is the pits
[00:08] <Quix86> He did win a race though, somehow
[00:08] <Anxi80> Maldozor doesn't belong in F1
[00:09] <Quix86> but yes he keeps giving money to williams, and williams hates any driver that doesn't give them tons of money
[00:09] <ClientAlive> it's no like I want anything to do with helping microsoft, but that's how I make my $
[00:09] <sianhulo> Quix86, he once did a demonstration here, it was some kind of celebration Not even a race
[00:09] <ClientAlive> what can you do?
[00:09] <sianhulo> Quix86, guess what?he crashed
[00:09] <n0yd> ClientAlive, tell them you went to install Exchange sever, but it said "Requirements: Windows NT or better" so you thought Linux would be more than adequate, but it wont run, so you want a refund
[00:10] <ClientAlive> I try to direct every customer I get to linux, to ubuntu specifically - but they won't listen
[00:10] <n0yd> I used to love messing with the microsoft support people.  See how long I could keep them on the line
[00:10] <n0yd> ClientAlive, I understand it, Im in a similar field
[00:10] <ClientAlive> yup
[00:11] <n0yd> ClientAlive, I even give them money for a TechNet Subscription, so I can access all their apps and operating systems... *yuvk*
[00:11] <n0yd> yuck*
[00:12] <n0yd> But, it pays the biils
[00:13] <n0yd> Anyone ever use Moneydance? I just noticed it is available for Linux
[00:13] <n0yd> It looks quite nice for a financial app
[00:14] <IdleOne> n0yd: Could you please stick to Ubuntu support in here, if you want to chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:14] <n0yd> Um, I have been providing support.
[00:15] <chaotix> hi.  when i try to recursively chmod a directory to 0777 or 0755 or anything according to the method described in 'man chmod', i get the return:  chmod: invalid mode: ‘+R’
[00:15] <n0yd> And asking for support ;)
[00:15] <Quix86> n0yd, freenode is the fourth reich
[00:15] <chaotix> for example, if i enter:   chmod +R 0777 '/var/www/symbiose/boot/'
[00:15] <erica_> I have an inspiron 15 (1545) and 12.10 seems to be running pretty slowly on it, any way I can find out why?
[00:15] <IdleOne> n0yd: Not saying you haven't. Just asking that you do only support in here and keep the extra chatter out of here.
[00:15] <Totentag> This isn't quite Ubuntu based, but I'm looking for a quick bit of help with LibreOffice.
[00:16] <chaotix> what syntax do i need to properly chmod recursively these directories to 0777?
[00:16] <Quix86> Right before I go to the trouble of patching a kernel
[00:16] <Quix86> is there any -easier- way to lower the voltage on my chip in linux?
[00:16] <n0yd> Quix86, oh I am well aware. Been here for over 12 years
[00:16] <n0yd> Quix86, no there isnt
[00:16] <Quix86> piss
[00:17] <n0yd> Besides letting speedstep do it, which are just preprogramed voltages
[00:17] <Totentag> Specifically, I need to figure out how, if possible, to use Sup- and Sub-script text. The formatting options seem a bit more sparse than I'm used to with Microsoft Office.
[00:17] <betrayd> chaotix anytime you run into trouble with a command ask the man e.g. man chmod in a terminal
[00:17] <ch900712> Hello,,Can someone answer this questions for me , 1) How is Ivy Bridge hardware support with ubuntu ? 2) Im using nvidia Do I need to remove the sli bridge ? 3) How do I know everything is working properly ? 4) I use Virtual Machine for work if i transfer it from my windows system will it work ?
[00:18] <Quix86> I want to say there is a program that you can use with PHC that allows you to change the voltages used with each speedstep setting
[00:18] <Quix86> which will be a pain to set up, I'm sure
[00:18] <n0yd> ya there is
[00:18] <Totentag> Disregard my previous. Re-wording my Help search is all it took.
[00:18] <n0yd> but, you have to have a phc kernel
[00:18] <johnjohn101> does ndiswrapper work in 13.04?  I wanted to try it for a flaking usb wireless.
[00:19] <Quix86> actually
[00:19] <n0yd> johnjohn101, i dont see why not
[00:19] <Quix86> you know what?
[00:19] <julian-delphiki> chaotix, in general 777 is a bad idea.
[00:19] <Quix86> I'm gonna try 3.2
[00:19] <Quix86> and if that doesn't work then I'll just get 12.04
[00:19] <betrayd> how old is that writeup you're reading johnjohn101
[00:19] <n0yd> Quix86, go ahead. But beware of what i said before
[00:19] <n0yd> Quix86, if you need help compiling the kernel, i can help you
[00:20] <n0yd> Quix86, make sure to install linux-firmware and linux-firmware-nonfree incase you need any of them with the 3.2 kernel
[00:20] <johnjohn101> betrayd:  this is the writeup  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBZa17yvl7o
[00:20] <Quix86> n0yd frankly I'd rather just do a fresh install, I'm gonna have to do another one in a day or two
[00:20] <ch900712> hello?
[00:20] <n0yd> Quix86, whys that?
[00:20] <Quix86> because I've got a CF>PATA adapter coming in
[00:21] <Quix86> I've got a thinkpad X41 and it uses 1.8" drives
[00:21] <Quix86> those are -horrible-
[00:21] <n0yd> yup
[00:21] <Quix86> so I've got a 8gb rather fast CF card sitting here
[00:21] <n0yd> So you are gonna use CF for a drive?
[00:21] <chaotix> betrayd, in 'man chmod' is says to use -R or --recursive
[00:21] <Quix86> and hopefully it'll do the job
[00:21] <Quix86> it's a lot cheaper than a PATA SSD
[00:21] <Quix86> I can use a SD card for more space and a total of 40gb is plenty
[00:21] <n0yd> i use a 8GB class 10 SD for swap
[00:22] <n0yd> Quix86, Im actually looking at a mini pci-e SSD for my Thinkpad T500
[00:22] <Quix86> swap will kill it pretty quick I think... I need to learn how to set up a ramdisk as well
[00:22] <johnjohn101> n0yd: you're not worried about wearing that SD card out?
[00:22] <n0yd> johnjohn101, nah, its a sd card, like 4 bucks, lol
[00:22] <n0yd> And I rarely swap
[00:22] <n0yd> I jhave 8GB of ram, only time I needx swap is when building android
[00:23] <dr_willis> ive  not managed to wear out a sd card on my raspberrypi yet. ;) thats all it uses.. with swap partion even..
[00:23] <n0yd> yup
[00:23] <n0yd> I do the same with my pi
[00:23] <dr_willis> plus ive found 32gb sdhc cards on sale for under $20    but i tend to use $5   8gb cards on the pi
[00:23] <betrayd> chaotix ya its uppercase
[00:24] <Quix86> does the pi have a SDXC or whatever the new one is? I was doing research the other day and there are faster SD cards available with that
[00:24] <ch900712> ji
[00:24] <chaotix> betrayd, i got it working
[00:24] <n0yd> I got some 64B class 10's off ebay for like 24 buckjs
[00:24] <Iceman_B> speaking of pie
[00:24] <n0yd> I use them for backups
[00:24] <dr_willis> Quix86:  just sdhc.  i use the 4 speed and 10 speed cards
[00:24] <n0yd> Micro sd's rather
[00:24] <chaotix> im trying out installing symbiose on my Ubuntu server
[00:24] <johnjohn101> n0yd: name brand or off brand?
[00:24] <betrayd> nice chaotix thanks to the man
[00:24] <chaotix> yeah
[00:24] <Iceman_B> anyone know an easy way to turn a Pi into a pxe/TFTP server for Ubuntu?
[00:24] <n0yd> johnjohn101, name brand
[00:25] <chaotix> betrayd, i was doing +R instead of -R
[00:25] <Iceman_B> Im thinking of reinstalling a fresh server image, straight from the net
[00:25] <dr_willis> Iceman_B:  install rasbian, then install the needed packages  ;) i guess..
[00:25] <betrayd> start by tajking out the word 'easy'
[00:25] <Iceman_B> dr_willis: that'll do the trick yeah?
[00:25] <n0yd> I wish my Gnexus had external SD
[00:25] <Learningg> Any1 knows what type of encryption hash this is: :B:a16634f1:e10626a1f8070171d17f25c064347b64 ????????????
[00:25] <n0yd> But lots of devices are moving to non removable media
[00:25] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: one day i'll get my rasp pi up and running
[00:26] <Iceman_B> I got one for Xmas
[00:26] <Iceman_B> company gift
[00:26] <Iceman_B> ...but its collecting dust dor now ._.
[00:26] <Iceman_B> *for
[00:26] <Learningg> Any1 knows what type of encryption hash this is: :B:a16634f1:e10626a1f8070171d17f25c064347b64 ????????????
[00:26] <chaotix> this bad boy is running smoothe now
[00:26] <dr_willis> ive been using the Plex-Pi thing last week - it seems to be a handy tool.. if you use the plex media server
[00:26] <johnjohn101> mine is sitting on my desk. no time.   messing around with 13.04 now
[00:26] <Iceman_B> I suppose I could use it as a media server, but I need to hook up external storage
[00:27] <Iceman_B> or, use my existing server as a datastore
[00:27] <chaotix> for reference, ya'll should check out:  https://github.com/symbiose/
[00:27] <n0yd> I use my gnexus more than my pi.  I can hook up my gnexus to my TV via hdmi with bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Its just easier forsimple stuf than the pi.  But the pi is a great little hobby
[00:27] <dr_willis> Pi Makes a handy spare SSH terminal also ;)
[00:27] <chaotix> bye for now
[00:27] <Iceman_B> ...but first I need to revive the OS drive :/
[00:27] <chaotix> thanks
[00:27] <n0yd> dr_willis, heh, i use myrouter for that all the time
[00:27] <Learningg> Any1 knows what type of encryption hash this is: :B:a16634f1:e10626a1f8070171d17f25c064347b64 ????????????
[00:27] <betrayd> cya
[00:27] <n0yd> My router also does all of my usenet and torrents, with 2x2TB drives attached
[00:28] <dr_willis> Learningg:   please.. spam the same question more often.... or   perhaps ask in #linux since its not really #ubuntu specific
[00:28] <Iceman_B> speaking of OS disk
[00:28] <Iceman_B> is there a surefire way to tell my HDD is dying?
[00:28] <n0yd> smart?
[00:29] <Iceman_B> my filesystem keeps getting corrupted, but smart doesnt show anything decissive
[00:29] <dr_willis> Iceman_B:  safest bet is to assume it WILL die..  and always have backups.
[00:29] <dr_willis> because eventually.. it will .   ;)
[00:29] <Iceman_B> and a superblock restore helps....somewhat
[00:29] <n0yd> ya pretty much what dr_willis said lol
[00:29] <n0yd> But smart is good at finding issues
[00:29] <Iceman_B> dr_willis:well yes, but this is not about data backup
[00:29] <betrayd> the day he dacies to get an extra drive for backup is the day it will die
[00:29] <terretz> howdy - this is a newbie question but I'm trying to rename a directory that is my smb share and dlna media - I've stopped both smb and dlna but when I try to rename the folder I get an error that the device/resource is busy.
[00:29] <dr_willis> from what i recall reading.. dont rely on smart.. its a good tool. but not a guarenteed tool
[00:29] <Learningg> any1 knows what type of encryption hash this is: :B:a16634f1:e10626a1f8070171d17f25c064347b64 ????????????
[00:29] <Iceman_B> this is about knowing if my damn server can run or not :/
[00:29] <n0yd> As long as the drive is smart capable, most modern drives are
[00:29] <terretz> how can i find out what services are running on that directory?
[00:29] <n0yd> !ubott smart
[00:29] <Learningg> any1 knows what type of encryption hash this is: :B:a16634f1:e10626a1f8070171d17f25c064347b64 ???????????? pm me pls
[00:29] <n0yd> woops
[00:30] <terretz> or - what services are using it
[00:30] <n0yd> !ubottu smart
[00:30] <n0yd> meh, i forget how the bot works here
[00:30] <n0yd> lol
[00:30] <dr_willis> terretz:  if you mount a samba whare.. unmount it..  and remount it to a differnt named directory.
[00:30] <n0yd> been sooo long
[00:30] <Quix86> dr_willis, I believe that was from google's big hard drive life thing
[00:30] <qin> Learningg: its tiger128,3
[00:30] <Iceman_B> n0yd: all 3 drives in my server are smart capable
[00:30] <betrayd> switch the name around n0yd
[00:30] <dr_willis> Quix86:  yea. i recall it was a few yearss back
[00:30] <Iceman_B> and I read them out, and they all said "healthy"
[00:30] <n0yd> Iceman_B, so install smartmontools
[00:30] <Iceman_B> and yet my SDA1 keeps reverting to read-only mode :/
[00:30] <n0yd> and whatever smart tools there may be
[00:30] <n0yd> !smart
[00:31] <terretz> dr_willis, hm - thank you - I'll look into this - unmounting being the key word there.
[00:31] <Iceman_B> well...rightn ow im running from a rescuecd
[00:31] <n0yd> Iceman_B, is it detecting errors at startup?
[00:31] <Ari-Yang> how do you apt-get install 2 things at the same time?
[00:31] <n0yd> You can use smart from a rescurecd
[00:31] <Ari-Yang> is it apt-get install test & test2 ?
[00:31] <n0yd> Ari-Yang, apt-get install program1 program2
[00:31] <Iceman_B> n0yd: not really
[00:31] <Ari-Yang> kk
[00:31] <n0yd> Iceman_B, why not?
[00:32] <n0yd> Ive done it
[00:32] <Iceman_B> oh
[00:32] <Iceman_B> I meant: no errors detected on startup
[00:32] <n0yd> Take a linux cd like ubuntu, load it.  Mount drives, install smart
[00:32] <n0yd> oh
[00:32] <Iceman_B> until I try to run Aptitude
[00:32] <Siecje> so if you use something that is apache2 license does that mean your project must be apache2?
[00:32] <n0yd> weird
[00:32] <Iceman_B> then everything breaks
[00:32] <n0yd> did you use ext4tools to run a check?
[00:33] <n0yd> ie. fsck
[00:33] <n0yd> that would be my first course of action
[00:33] <n0yd> Well, besides backing up important data :P
[00:33] <n0yd> Its not a raid is it?\
[00:33] <Iceman_B> no
[00:34] <Iceman_B> I just tried a Superblock restore via e2fsck
[00:34] <dr_willis> check the dmesg command when it fails.. see if it gives a cliue
[00:34] <n0yd> did fsck find errors?
[00:34] <n0yd> good idea dr
[00:35] <dr_willis> any hard drives i 'question' the reliability of.. become  video storage drives for the kids roku's or other media players in the house.
[00:35] <dr_willis> if they die..  no big loss.
[00:35] <n0yd> ya
[00:35] <n0yd> storage is very cheap nowadays
[00:35] <Iceman_B> n0yd: well yes, (if I had a job)
[00:35] <n0yd> I had a 3ware SATAII raid card, it killed 6 1TB drives.
[00:35] <dr_willis> i have a redundant  set of drives backing up "dora the explorer'  ;)
[00:35] <n0yd> It took me a long time to realize the card was the issue
[00:36] <Iceman_B> but right now, I still need to find out if I actually need to replace the drive or not
[00:36] <n0yd> I did more research and for whatever reason those specific cards kill drives like crazy
[00:36] <terretz> dr_willis, Thank you!  It worked!
[00:36] <Iceman_B> e2fsck found errors btw, it recovered that when I restored a superblock(whatever that is)
[00:36] <n0yd> lol
[00:36] <Iceman_B> im now running a badblock fsck
[00:36] <Iceman_B> ....that could take a while, no?
[00:36] <Iceman_B> 160G drive?
[00:37] <n0yd> nah
[00:37] <n0yd> not too long
[00:37] <n0yd> But definitely run smart
[00:37] <n0yd> You can install it on a livecd
[00:37] <dr_willis> a 160gb  Normal (non ssd) hd? that , must be old. ;)
[00:37] <Iceman_B> its included in systemrecuecd
[00:37] <n0yd> nwever seen a 160 ssd
[00:38] <Iceman_B> yes yes, haha, Ice has an old rinkydink server
[00:38] <Iceman_B> :(
[00:38] <n0yd> I have seen 250ssd's though, instead of 256
[00:38] <Iceman_B> its all hdd
[00:38] <n0yd> I have one in my desktop
[00:38] <Iceman_B> no ssd for me
[00:38] <Iceman_B> im too poor
[00:38] <dr_willis> I got a 250gb sata drive.. and ive no idea where it came from.. ;) its just a backup location i had a spare sata cable for. ;)
[00:38] <n0yd> Iceman_B, My server is a dual opteron 246, with PCI-X (yuck) 12port raid.
[00:39] <Iceman_B> pfft
[00:39] <Iceman_B> thats nothing
[00:39] <n0yd> TYhough its currently out of comission, cause the frickin card kills drives
[00:39] <n0yd> Its the oldest machine I have
[00:39] <Iceman_B> mine is an Athlon XP 2800+
[00:39] <n0yd> LOL
[00:39] <Iceman_B> 3 PATA drives
[00:39] <n0yd> My lasxt athlon box was an Dual Athlon
[00:39] <Iceman_B> Asus A7v600 something mobo
[00:39] <n0yd> Water cooled
[00:39] <Quix86> I've got a thinkpad x21
[00:39] <Iceman_B> air-cooled
[00:39] <Quix86> PIII 800mhz
[00:39] <n0yd> hehe
[00:40] <Iceman_B> ive got more fans than you'll ever have
[00:40] <Iceman_B> booyah!
[00:40] <dr_willis> mercury cooled...
[00:40] <Quix86> oh oh oh no, excuse me
[00:40] <Quix86> I've got a compaq presario 1230
[00:40] <Quix86> cyrix mediaGX 233 MMX
[00:40] <Quix86> 96mb ram
[00:40] <n0yd> I still have my Athlon T-Bird chip, from when my old ABIT Kt7A-raid died.  That was actually my first Linux rig
[00:40] <Quix86> running NT 4.0
[00:40] <Iceman_B> NewTrolls 4.0
[00:40] <Quix86> and I've got some athlon XP bits in a box somewhere
[00:40] <Iceman_B> man
[00:41] <Iceman_B> I think I;ve played on this box with Ubuntu 6.something
[00:41] <Iceman_B> and my linux-fu is still WEAK
[00:41] <n0yd> Like 5 years ago, I bought a Packard Bell 166Mhz, off ebay for like 5 bucks plus shipping.  I used it just for a router
[00:41] <Iceman_B> WEAK like twig
[00:41] <LLckfan> My modem went out (like the cable company was working on the line) and now the router will not connect to the internet. Is there some way to get it to see the internet again without reinstalling the software? (BTW I am hooked up to the modem right now)
[00:41] <n0yd> Stuck some nics in it, and stuck some wifi cards in.
[00:41] <Iceman_B> my WRT54GL mocks your Pbell...
[00:41] <n0yd> lol
[00:41] <Quix86> I've got one of those
[00:42] <n0yd> And my RT-n16 mocks your WRT54GL
[00:42] <Iceman_B> :(
[00:42] <Quix86> I'm actually thinking I need to upgrade now, since I transfer files over my local network on occasion
[00:42] <n0yd> Along with my WRT54G-TM
[00:42] <Quix86> and have gigabit/wireless N devices
[00:42] <n0yd> The best model 54G ever made
[00:42] <Iceman_B> LLckfan: uh, huh ? arent you connected to the internet now?
[00:42] <n0yd> Its only my spare, i dont use it. 54G is t slow
[00:43] <LLckfan> BTW I am hooked right to the modem
[00:43] <n0yd> Iceman_B, hes conncted
[00:43] <n0yd> directly
[00:43] <n0yd> woops
[00:43] <n0yd> LLckfan, you need to reboot the router
[00:43] <Iceman_B> oh right, router, my bad
[00:43] <n0yd> Reboot the modem, then reboot the router
[00:43] <Iceman_B> and possibly release the DHCP lease on your computer
[00:43] <LLckfan> Not a he
[00:43] <Iceman_B> before you hook up your router
[00:44] <Quix86> n0yd, what about the WRTU54G-TM then?
[00:44] <n0yd> WRTU?
[00:44] <Quix86> like the TM but with 64mb ram
[00:44] <Iceman_B> why have I never heard of these models......
[00:44] <n0yd> I hought the TM already has 64
[00:44] <Quix86> 32
[00:44] <n0yd> Iceman_B, they were Tmobile models
[00:44] <TheUsD> WRD2000v3/DD-WRT :(
[00:44] <n0yd> Made for VOIP, which s why they were high ram
[00:45] <Iceman_B> ah
[00:45] <Iceman_B> US -only perhaps
[00:45] <n0yd> Quix86, interesting, I thught mine had 64GB
[00:45] <Quix86> not according to wikiped
[00:45] <n0yd> Iceman_B, Tmobile is us on afaIK
[00:45] <n0yd> maybe not, its been like 4 years
[00:45] <Iceman_B> a few years ago, I specifically bought a wrt54gL to flash it with dd-wrt
[00:45] <n0yd> I hate dd-wrt
[00:46] <LLckfan> Then I lose everything and I am not secure
[00:46] <Iceman_B> I am too dumb to hate or love those cfw's
[00:46] <Iceman_B> all I know is it works
[00:46] <Iceman_B> and keeps my router stable
[00:46] <n0yd> I used to like it, before I realized there are better options
[00:46] <Iceman_B> suchas ?
[00:46] <n0yd> tomato, tomatousb and the other tomatousb custoom builds
[00:46] <TheUsD> Tornado isnt a bad one
[00:46] <n0yd> tornado?
[00:46] <Iceman_B> openWRT perhaps?
[00:46] <n0yd> Also debian-wrt
[00:47] <n0yd> openwrt is alright
[00:47] <TheUsD> eh' tomato tornado, whatever
[00:47] <Iceman_B> LLckfan: did you try powercycling your router yet?
[00:47] <Iceman_B> after that, try releaseing your IP, plug your router in and request an IP
[00:47] <n0yd> Even asus's stock WRT is nice or the custom version made by merlin.  You can install apps on it, etc
[00:47] <Iceman_B> although I have no real idea how to do that on Linux ._.
[00:47] <n0yd> But even the sock asuswrt has all the goodies
[00:48] <Iceman_B> note: chocolate and sake are a terrible mix
[00:48] <Iceman_B> DO NOT MIX THEM
[00:48]  * Iceman_B coughs up I/O errors
[00:48] <n0yd> LLckfan, power cycling your router wouldnt make you "non secure"
[00:48] <LLckfan> Ice I have done that before
[00:48] <LLckfan> Nothing happened
[00:49] <n0yd> This really isnt an issue about Ubuntu. Its either your router or your modem
[00:49] <Iceman_B> LLckfan: well, coming from my days as tech support, try pluggin in your router and then log into your router locally
[00:49] <LLckfan> I was told to ask here
[00:49] <Iceman_B> see of IT gets an IP or not
[00:49] <LLckfan> I have
[00:50] <n0yd> and?
[00:50] <Quix86> is the intel 4965AGB supported in ubuntu/linux yet? Supported as in, just works like my 3945
[00:50] <LLckfan> It connects but is not connecting to the internet
[00:50] <n0yd> You arent giving us much info to go on
[00:50] <n0yd> Waiut wait
[00:50] <n0yd> The router gets an IP from the modem?
[00:50] <Iceman_B> LLckfan: then you need to call your ISP and bitch them
[00:50] <n0yd> If you go into the router via the web browser, and look at the Wan IP, is there anything?
[00:50] <Iceman_B> (or you need to set your modem to Bridge mode)
[00:50] <n0yd> NOT the lan IP
[00:51] <n0yd> The Wan IP
[00:51] <n0yd> Also, is this DSL or Cable?
[00:51] <n0yd> If its DSL, are you using a Modem that requires your router use PPEOE
[00:53] <LLckfan> The router is not thiers
[00:54] <n0yd> that doesnt mean anything
[00:54] <n0yd> we cant help you unless you give us more information
[00:54] <n0yd> Ive asked you many questions, with no answers
[00:56] <LLckfan> Answered the DSL or cable in the question
[00:56] <Quix86> dd if=~/importantthings/commoncents of=llckfan
[00:58] <n0yd> I give up
[00:58] <n0yd> Call your ISP or router manufacturer
[00:58] <LLckfan> No help]
[00:58] <LLckfan> Cable
[00:59] <LLckfan> It is Cable
[00:59] <LLckfan> Which I said in the question
[00:59] <LLckfan> Tell u all what happened
[01:00] <LLckfan> Was online though the router. I am guessing they unplugged the line to work on it as all the lights on the modem where out
[01:00] <LLckfan> When the come back on router had no internet
[01:00] <Iceman_B> LLckfan: the thing is
[01:00] <Iceman_B> if your modem is now online, then you have an internet connection
[01:01] <Iceman_B> if your router doesnt go online: either your router is broken, or your ISP is broken
[01:01] <Iceman_B> its not really a ubuntu or even linux issue, from what I(we) can tell
[01:02] <n0yd> Did you ever power-cycle the modem?
[01:02] <n0yd> and the router
[01:03] <LLckfan> Yes
[01:03] <n0yd> It sounds when your modem got disconnected, the IP changed. The router has the old IP stuck in it
[01:03] <n0yd> Well, reboot the router and modem a few times. Ive seen it take a couple times
[01:03] <n0yd> Sadly, comcast here goes out quite often
[01:03] <LLckfan> I have
[01:04] <LLckfan> The modem works fine
[01:04] <n0yd> OMG
[01:04] <n0yd> The router
[01:04] <n0yd> Reboot it, with the modem connected, like 3 times.
[01:04] <Iceman_B> why had nobody murdered someone at Comcast yet?
[01:05] <Iceman_B> over here(Netherlands), only horror stories reach my ears about cable ISP's
[01:05] <LLckfan> I have
[01:05] <n0yd> Check to see if it works each time you reboot it
[01:05] <Iceman_B> in the US I mean
[01:05] <n0yd> Ok
[01:06] <n0yd> So when you have the modem hooked up to the router (NOT to your pc) and you go into the routers config page via your browser, is there an WAN IP?
[01:06] <LLckfan> I have not tried
[01:07] <n0yd> Well i asked you to do that like 20min ago
[01:07] <terretz> can anyone assist with an fstab issue I'm having?
[01:07] <n0yd> You see why you are not getting anywhere?
[01:07] <n0yd> terretz, pastebin the fstab?
[01:07] <n0yd> We dont know if we can help til you actually ask the question
[01:07] <LLckfan> I have done it before and it was there
[01:07] <n0yd> You just said you didnt try
[01:08] <n0yd> What one is it?
[01:08] <Iceman_B> speaking of fstab
[01:08] <n0yd> i feel like I am being trolling
[01:08] <n0yd> trolled*
[01:08] <Iceman_B> whats the difference between fstab and mtab?
[01:08] <terretz> long story short: unmounted my share, renamed it, changed /etc/fstab to reflect changes - when I mount /dev/sdb1 I get an error that a line in my fstab is incorrect
[01:08] <terretz> BUT
[01:08] <n0yd> fstab is what should mount on boot, mtab is what currently mounted
[01:09] <n0yd> like when you run "mount" it lists mtab
[01:09] <n0yd> NOT fstab
[01:09] <terretz> if I sudo mount /dev/sdb1 to the directory - it works
[01:09] <n0yd> terretz, what line is it sayiung is incorrect
[01:09] <n0yd> We need to know the error
[01:09] <terretz> n0yd, 12
[01:09] <n0yd> Paste the fstab iinto pastebin
[01:09] <dr_willis> and the exact fstab line
[01:09] <terretz> 1 sec
[01:09] <n0yd> Like I said originally
[01:09] <dr_willis> the mountpoint must exist befor you mount.. and be sure its spelt right
[01:10] <terretz> /usr/bin/setxkbmap -option "ctrl:swapcaps"
[01:10] <terretz> oops
[01:10] <terretz> [mntent]: line 12 in /etc/fstab is bad
[01:10] <n0yd> omg
[01:10] <n0yd> paste the whole fstab
[01:10] <terretz> mount: can't find /dev/sdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:10] <n0yd> Like ive asked 3 times now
[01:10] <n0yd> We dont know what the line says
[01:10] <terretz> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[01:10] <terretz> #
[01:10] <terretz> # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
[01:10] <terretz> # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
[01:10] <terretz> # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[01:10] <FloodBot1> terretz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:10] <terretz> #
[01:11] <n0yd> omg
[01:11] <dr_willis> terretz:  most likely its sdb1  not sdb.. unless its a cd/dvd
[01:11] <n0yd> I told you in pastebin
[01:11] <dr_willis> sudo blkid will whos what devices are what drives
[01:11] <n0yd> it could be usb
[01:11] <dr_willis> !fstab
[01:11] <dr_willis> bbl...
[01:11] <Iceman_B> !fsck
[01:12] <Iceman_B> oic
[01:12] <Guest77451> !fork
[01:12] <n0yd> terretz, paste it in pastebin
[01:12] <n0yd> !paste
[01:12] <johnjohn101> ndiswrapper is much better for my usb wireless. makes my $10 investment worth the effort.
[01:13] <Iceman_B> ctrl+v is the pastebin for poor people
[01:13] <Iceman_B> like me
[01:14] <terretz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5712054/
[01:14] <Iceman_B> thanks guys, my server is still fscking, so I'
[01:14] <terretz> n0yd, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5712054/
[01:14] <Iceman_B> ll let that run
[01:14] <Iceman_B> nite
[01:14] <n0yd> What is /Giants\ Drink/?
[01:15] <terretz> n0yd, that's the mount point
[01:15] <n0yd> im pretty sure the naming of it is the problem
[01:15] <terretz> ok
[01:15] <terretz> 1 word?
[01:15] <n0yd> yup
[01:15] <terretz> ok
[01:16] <n0yd> If you absolutely need it to words, you could make a oneword mountpoint, then make a symbolic link
[01:16] <n0yd> two*
[01:16] <n0yd> This keyboard is horrible. I think the batteries are going, if I type too fast it misses keys
[01:17] <terretz> n0yd, thank you very much!
[01:17] <terretz> it worked!
[01:18] <n0yd> np
[01:19] <n0yd> terretz, if you want spaces in fstab it needs to be like this
[01:19] <n0yd> first\040second
[01:19] <n0yd> the \040 is the space
[01:20] <terretz> including the 040?
[01:20] <n0yd> you gotta use the octal ascii
[01:20] <n0yd> yes
[01:20] <n0yd> I had to look it up myself
[01:20] <Guest77451> you gota love asm
[01:20] <n0yd> terretz, better example: http://www.eazynet.de/specify_directory_with_spaces_in_etc_fstab
[01:20] <n0yd> Guest77451, lol
[01:21] <terretz> wow
[01:21] <terretz> good to know
[01:21] <terretz> bookmarked
[01:22] <n0yd> Guest77451, werent you the guy just trolling #freenode?
[01:22] <n0yd> nvm, it was you. had to check ip
[01:24] <Guest77451> a fiend of mine tells me that the nxt identity card generation will have your ip adress on it
[01:25] <n0yd> a fiend? makes sense they would think that :P
[01:26] <Ben64> well it sorta is accurate, each mac address is translated into iopv6
[01:27] <Guest77451> no more having to remember passwords
[01:27] <n0yd> Ben64, amd that makes way for having our IP address/mac address on our ID card?
[01:28] <Guest77451> you just introduce your card in the computer to login
[01:28] <n0yd> Guest77451, its way too easy to spoof IP addresses
[01:28] <Ben64> oh, i read that as ip address on network card
[01:28] <Ben64> not id card, my mistake
[01:28] <Guest77451> its easy?
[01:28] <n0yd> And way too easy to spoof mac addresses
[01:28] <Guest77451> its also easy to get busted
[01:29] <qpucka> can anyone help me troubleshoot pulseaudio over network on 12.04? i set up via paprefs with no results. not sure how to troubleshoot.
[01:29] <n0yd> Guest77451, lol tell that to the ID thieves
[01:29] <n0yd> Risk vs. Reward
[01:29] <Guest77451> is that a case?
[01:31] <KundiMeikkaa> So when you plug in an external drive it default mounts on /media/<name>, any way to chance that behaviour?
[01:31] <KundiMeikkaa> As in change the folder it default mounts to
[01:31] <Ben64> !fstab | KundiMeikkaa
[01:32] <KundiMeikkaa> Ben64, fstab doesn't allow you to specify a general mount point for any external drive plugged in
[01:32] <KundiMeikkaa> Only for specific drives if you know their UUID or name
[01:32] <KundiMeikkaa> device name*
[01:33] <Ben64> KundiMeikkaa: then what are you trying to do
[01:33] <qpucka> pulseaudio help? anyone?
[01:33] <Ben64> !patience | qpucka
[01:34] <KundiMeikkaa> ben64, well, if you plug in an external device, including a CD, it default mounts this under the /media directory. I want to change that to another directory
[01:34] <Ben64> KundiMeikkaa: whats the point of that?
[01:34] <qpucka> sorry. i've already looked over the forums. will try again.
[01:34] <KundiMeikkaa> For any drive, including CD's, SD cards
[01:34] <KundiMeikkaa> Ben64, I want to mount it under a space I share outwardly specifically.
[01:34] <KundiMeikkaa> As in, so that i can access the contents of a CD or an external drive plugged in from another computer
[01:35] <Ben64> why not share /media then...
[01:35] <Guest77451> make a simlink
[01:35] <KundiMeikkaa> Ben64, well, because that requires two different login accounts for every folder (and their subfolders) to to share. The other alternative would be to share the common ancestor of all folders but that would be / and I don't think I want to do that.
[01:36] <johnjohn101> using samba makes it very ez to share a directory in ubuntu
[01:36] <KundiMeikkaa> I am using samba, but it requires you to have different login instances for different directories it seems.
[01:36] <Ben64> depends how you set up samba
[01:36] <KundiMeikkaa> Unless you share their common ancestor.
[01:36] <Guest77451> KundiMeikkaa: nvm Ben64 hes just trying to wast your time with pesky q and a
[01:36] <KundiMeikkaa> Hmm, well, I couldn't find how to set it up.
[01:37] <KundiMeikkaa> I also tried a symlink but it then complains about permissions on the other computer
[01:37] <Ben64> share /media and everything underneath is shared
[01:37] <KundiMeikkaa> Because I guess it's technically not in permission range because it's actually on another part of the filesystem
[01:37] <KundiMeikkaa> Ben64, of course, but it requires then two different login instances toa ccess /media and /public at the same time
[01:37] <KundiMeikkaa> So that's why I want it to mount under /public/media
[01:38] <Ben64> you never said anything about /public
[01:38] <KundiMeikkaa> Well, /public is that public folder.
[01:38] <KundiMeikkaa> Which I share
[01:38] <Ben64> and you can use the same login to access it all
[01:38] <KundiMeikkaa> Well, I didn't get that to work, even so though, if it's at all possible I'd also like to know how to set up the default mounting location
[01:38] <KundiMeikkaa> It's useful info anyway
[01:39] <Ben64> but you should be able to ln -s /media /public/
[01:39] <Guest77451> what if he wants to mount it under another dir?
[01:39] <Guest77451> whats it to you why?
[01:39] <Guest77451> just anser the question
[01:39] <Ben64> Guest77451: this does not concern you
[01:39] <KundiMeikkaa> Ben64, first thing I tried, it complains about permissions because it's technically located on the filesystem on a palce where sambda has not gotten permission to share
[01:40] <KundiMeikkaa> Ben64, if I'm to be frank, I concur with Guest7831, too often when I'm asking for people honestly waste time asking why I want to do something
[01:40] <KundiMeikkaa> While explaining the nature of my problem isn't relevant in this case.
[01:40] <kevin^> hey guys. using rdesktop with the en-us keymap, but when i connect to a machine (based in europe) , the key events are incorrect. for example, the @ shows up as a " or something. thoughts?
[01:40] <Ben64> it's much less than trivial to do what you're asking
[01:41] <Guest77451> ~meaning you dont know
[01:41] <Ben64> thats not what i said, keep out of it
[01:41] <KundiMeikkaa> Ben64, I assumed as suich since google didn't give me anything. Which si weird because you'd assume ti's a very simpkle setting somewhere
[01:41] <johnjohn101> i agree with Ben64, i'm not sure why you can't mount the drive to a directory that samba can use
[01:41] <KundiMeikkaa> Ben64, well, do you know?
[01:41] <Ben64> yes
[01:41] <KundiMeikkaa> johnjohn101, even if I could, I'd still just like to kbnow how change this default behaviour
[01:41] <KundiMeikkaa> Ben64, is there a particular technical reason why it isn't trivial because I don't see why it shouldn't be.
[01:42] <Ben64> you could just enable symlinks in samba config
[01:42] <johnjohn101> are you trying to change the default direction where  you usb drive mounts?
[01:42] <johnjohn101> default directory
[01:42] <KundiMeikkaa> johnjohn101, yap
[01:42] <KundiMeikkaa> currently it/ s in  /media
[01:42] <KundiMeikkaa> I'd like to just change that to whatever I want
[01:43] <johnjohn101> ben64, won't fstab work?
[01:43] <KundiMeikkaa> I don't know a way in fstab to do it for _all_ media devices
[01:43] <KundiMeikkaa> Only for specific ones if you know their UUID or name
[01:45] <sere> im playing sound through hdmi however only the left speaker works... how can i fix this
[01:45] <johnjohn101> KundiMeikkaa: symlinks don't work for yo?
[01:46] <KundiMeikkaa> johnjohn101, well, samba still complains about permission even though I just checked the setting and it's enabled
[01:46] <KundiMeikkaa> Because it's technically stil  on a part of the filesystem that samba isn't allowed to share
[01:47] <Ben64> need to have symlinks and wide links on
[01:47] <KundiMeikkaa> Even though, I'd rather just be able to change the automount point if at all possible.
[01:47] <KundiMeikkaa> Ben64, seems to be it yeah
[01:47] <KundiMeikkaa> wide links
[01:47] <KundiMeikkaa> looking at the documentation
[01:49] <johnjohn101> KundiMeikkaa: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1600541
[01:49] <johnjohn101> ben64: what is a wide link?
[01:52] <energizer> I opened a free DynDNS account a few months ago to do dynamic ip updating. I'm trying to open another free one, but I can't figure it out. Help?
[01:53] <jrib> energizer: not sure how this is an ubuntu question
[01:53] <dr_willis> I thought dyndns got rid of all their free' accounts..   or am i thinking opendyndns ?
[01:53] <qin> energizer: open no-ip account?
[01:54] <dr_willis> i got one grandfathered in. but i HAVE to go to their web site once  month and login or they will close it
[01:54] <CodeRed> Hello, anyone know how to get the 32 bit libgl libraries for the AMD x86_64 driver that's on the AMD driver site?
[01:54] <energizer> dr_willis In February I made one. Did they change something since then?
[01:54] <KundiMeikkaa> johnjohn101, well, it works now, still don't know how to change the automount point though
[01:54] <dr_willis> energizer:  they did some chanbbe just last month i recall
[01:54] <dr_willis> change
[01:55] <dr_willis> ive had my free account for years..   they keep wanting to do things to kick off all the old free users.
[01:55] <dr_willis> so i imagine you can no longer make free accounts.
[01:55] <Ben64> its easier to just buy a domain
[01:55] <dr_willis> and you should have gotten an email from them last month about where you need to login once a month
[01:56] <angelazou> quick question, when ssh into a remote ubuntu server, how do I open multiple terminal windows?
[01:56] <baldfat> angelazou: tmux
[01:56] <dr_willis> angelazou:  best to learn to use 'screen'  or tmux over ssh ;
[01:56] <dr_willis> or just run several terminals and ssh in each one
[01:56] <baldfat> angelazou: tmux is newer and more actively developed
[01:57] <angelazou> I'lll try them out thanks
[01:57] <dr_willis> byou is tmux (or screen) with a slightly friendlier front end
[01:57] <dr_willis> byobu
[01:57] <baldfat> angelazou: You can than reattach to sessions on log in. I am doing that now with my weechat client right now/
[01:58] <johnjohn101> KundiMeikkaa: I don't know how to change the automount directory.  how many different devices are  you trying to mount?
[02:00] <KundiMeikkaa> johnjohn101, currently I have a DvD drive, (each CD has a different UUID of course), an MP3 player, a tablet, 2 external drives, an SD card and a digital camera.
[02:00] <KundiMeikkaa> These all get automounted under /media/<name>
[02:01] <dr_willis> you could always make soft links to make them also appear wherever you wanted.
[02:01] <johnjohn101> and you'd like them mounted under /public/d<name>
[02:01] <KundiMeikkaa> johnjohn101, well under /public/media/<name> yeah
[02:01] <KundiMeikkaa> dr_willis, already done that, it just gnaws on me that I don't know how to change something that should be so simple and neither does google.
[02:02] <KundiMeikkaa> Almost everyone comes with symlinks which is a hack, it should be possible to change that in some setting
[02:02] <Gabboz> Hi.  12.04 Server.  I cannot find why my / partition is out of space.  I even did an fsck on the volume incase of discrepancy.  See this for info. http://pastebin.com/gM3Np7sE     Thanks!
[02:02] <dr_willis> KundiMeikkaa:  for auto mounting, i woudl think it would be udev rules.. but ive never needed or wanted to change the defaults. ;)
[02:03] <KundiMeikkaa> dr_willis, where are the udev rules?
[02:03] <dr_willis> !udev
[02:03] <dr_willis> somewhere in /etc/  i recall having to tweak some rules once ages ago for a tablet..
[02:04] <KundiMeikkaa> Well, I'm sure google knows
[02:04] <KundiMeikkaa> omniscient bastard that it is.
[02:06] <johnjohn101> KundiMeikkaa: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221
[02:06] <johnjohn101> good luck
[02:07] <dr_willis> i seem to recall being able to make specific rules to mount devices to specific locations based on their UUID, or label, or other information about the device
[02:07] <KundiMeikkaa> wow, that's complicated to hjust change the default automount point wow
[02:07] <dr_willis> what you are doing would be considered some what odd.. and well  a bit insecure
[02:07] <KundiMeikkaa> It seems this is still on a per device basis though
[02:08] <johnjohn101> I don't understand if symlinks works, then why not use it?
[02:10] <KundiMeikkaa> I am using it, it just frustrates me that there isn't a simple setting to change such a simple thing.
[02:11] <KundiMeikkaa> The OS choose for me that it should be in /media/<name> what if I wanted it to be in /external-drives and seperate external drives and CD's for instance
[02:11] <dr_willis> perhaps because its not a simple thing?
[02:11] <KundiMeikkaa> I see no theoretical reason why it can't be?
[02:11] <KundiMeikkaa> Is there some theoretical reason why you can't choose that folder?
[02:12] <dr_willis> i imagine because the udev rules are written to use /media/  as ubuntu has used /media/ since... well.. a long time ago
[02:12] <johnjohn101> my best guess is that no one has taken the time to develop that functionality.
[02:12] <dr_willis> the switch to /media/username/ is  a relatively recent change
[02:12] <KundiMeikkaa> That too, is silly because it breaks so much stuff.
[02:13] <dr_willis> cant really sayve ive noticed it breaking stuff.
[02:13] <KundiMeikkaa> dr_willis, but meh, it should be possible to just change a simple global setting at some point
[02:13] <johnjohn101> KundiMeikkaa: you're welcome to to the mount yourself? turn off automount.
[02:13] <dr_willis> everything should be a globle setting then eh?
[02:13] <KundiMeikkaa> Well, if someone has a script which assumes CD's are located at /media/<name> that script then breaks
[02:13] <dr_willis> !info automountfs
[02:13] <KundiMeikkaa> dr_willis, I do believe everything should be customizable as mucha s possible yes
[02:13] <KundiMeikkaa> Different people, different needs
[02:14] <dr_willis> KundiMeikkaa:  thats why the udev rules are all text files and fairly easy to change.
[02:14] <KundiMeikkaa> Say I'm French and allergic to English and I want it on /medias
[02:14] <qin> KundiMeikkaa: changing /media/ to /media/$USER do not looks hard..
[02:14] <KundiMeikkaa> dr_willis, well, they still seem to work on a device by device basis from what I read
[02:14] <johnjohn101> KundiMeikkaa: I think you are nitpicking this but the bottom line is that what you're asking is a low priority. Open up an issue in launchpad and see if someone picks it up. that's the best you can do
[02:14] <KundiMeikkaa> qin, it isn't hard, but it does break stuff before you chjange it
[02:14] <dr_willis> KundiMeikkaa:  they have rules/patterns they can follow
[02:14] <KundiMeikkaa> If you have a lot of scripts, it's not pretty
[02:15] <KundiMeikkaa> johnjohn101, I'm hardly nitpicking, you have to admit that not being able to change the default mount folder is weird, you'd expect it to be in some config file.
[02:15] <johnjohn101> KundiMeikkaa: you can use the mount command to move it to whatever directory you want but not automount
[02:16] <qin> KundiMeikkaa: http://askubuntu.com/questions/214646/how-to-configure-the-default-automount-location
[02:16] <williangliao> how to install ubuntu 13.04 64bit
[02:16] <williangliao> how to install ubuntu 13.04 64bit with usb
[02:16] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com is so handy ;)
[02:16] <KundiMeikkaa> "It's not the kernel but udisks2 where the automount location is hardcoded. You can't configure it."
[02:16] <KundiMeikkaa> Well, apparently.
[02:17] <dr_willis> williangliao:   put it on usb properly. boot usb.. install
[02:17] <KundiMeikkaa> Don't like that kind of stuff personally though, configurability is good, there will always be french people whose brain explodes on exposure to English
[02:17] <qin> KundiMeikkaa: read whole post, cool?
[02:17] <tulip> kundie lol
[02:17] <KundiMeikkaa> qin, ahh the one below it says yopu can change it apparently.
[02:18] <qin> You found it!
[02:18] <KundiMeikkaa> "This doesn't work in Ubuntu 12.10 because it uses udisks version 2.0.0, and support for the above didn't appear until version 2.0.91.
[02:18] <KundiMeikkaa> "
[02:18] <williangliao> dr_willis: when i boot usb,it's Black screen
[02:19] <KundiMeikkaa> qin, also that is not a general solution, that just sets it back to /media instead of /media/<username>
[02:19] <dr_willis> williangliao:  then you should have said so the first place...
[02:19] <KundiMeikkaa> It doesn't provide you with a way to generally change the automount point to anything you want
[02:19] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | williangliao
[02:20] <Campfire> is this on freenode
[02:20] <tulip> anyone tried the pype editor ? compared to vi ?
[02:20] <Campfire> this channal
[02:20] <johnjohn101> KundiMeikkaa: why can't you just accept the fact that it's missing functionality?  I am kind of irked that my native ubuntu driver for my wireless card doesn't work properly and I had to use ndiswrapper. but I'm ok with it until things change.
[02:20] <Pdqman> campfire: yes its on freenode
[02:20] <Campfire> not i
[02:20] <frankbro> I have an issue. I recently bought a GTX 650 TI boost which allows 3 monitors. However, when I connect the third screen, I dont see it in the nvidia-settings application.
[02:21] <Campfire> setting frank
[02:22] <Campfire> settings
[02:22] <frankbro> ?
[02:22] <KundiMeikkaa> johnjohn101, well, I have accepted that it is a missing functionality, I just don't like it and people here seem to try to convince me that it's an unneeded functionality of which I'm not sure.
[02:22] <dr_willis> Hmm.. cant say ive seen a nvidia card that allowed 3 monitors... but ive not bought a new card in ages.
[02:23] <Campfire> oh yeah ty pdqman
[02:23] <KundiMeikkaa> I'm also confused why it's a missing functionality, it seems like that when you code in the automount behaviour one of the things you do is letting it read the automount folder from some configuration setting at some point
[02:23] <KundiMeikkaa> instead of hardcoding it in it
[02:23] <n0yd> dr_willis, dual dvi and hdmi?
[02:23] <n0yd> i know ive seen them, the newer ones
[02:23] <dr_willis> n0yd:  i got one that has a hdmi, vga, and dvi.. but i can only do 2 out of the 3
[02:23] <frankbro> the gtx 650 ti boost has 2 dvi, an hdmi and a display port
[02:24] <dr_willis> but its an older caard
[02:24] <KundiMeikkaa> johnjohn101, I don't know, if you made the automount routine, surely you would've let it read the directory where to mount it from some configuration setting rather than hardcoding it?
[02:24] <Campfire> are all the monitors set at the same res would be my first question and adaptabiltity
[02:24] <energizer> dr_willis For future reference: http://www.dyncommunity.com/questions/32181/from-dyn-free-hostnames-are-no-longer-offered.html
[02:24] <johnjohn101> KundiMeikkaa: i'm not trying to convince you that it's unneeded.  automount to /media/<user name> make sense to me if you're using a multiuser system.
[02:24] <n0yd> i wonder if my laptp will do vga and hdmi...
[02:24] <frankbro> dr_willis, apparently, its good enough to drive up to 4
[02:25] <dr_willis> ive tried 3 monitor swith 2 nvidia cards.. but it never seemed to work well
[02:25] <KundiMeikkaa> johnjohn101, it does make sense, as do many other things and people should be able to choose which of the sensible or unsensible options to pick
[02:25] <dr_willis> but that was at least 4 yrs ago
[02:25] <Campfire> noyd yes amizon
[02:25] <KundiMeikkaa> In some edge cases a generally unsensible option is just needed
[02:25] <johnjohn101> KundiMeikkaa: you're always free to dive into the udev rules and figure it out, then share with everyone, you'll be a hero and maybe move to up a linux grade
[02:25] <KundiMeikkaa> johnjohn101, well, form what I read it isn't possible with udev
[02:25] <KundiMeikkaa> You have to do it on a per device basis
[02:26] <KundiMeikkaa> udev overrides a global setting on a per device basis and you cannot alter the global setting which is hardcoded into the OS, the only wayt to chance it is alter the OS and recompile
[02:27] <pepee> hi. is there a repo to that has the latest radeon (+ patches) for ubuntu 13.04 ?
[02:27] <dr_willis> pepee:  perhaps the xswat ppa
[02:28] <dr_willis> it generally has the latest x and drivers
[02:28] <dr_willis> it can also break things. ;)
[02:31] <dmicool20> hi
[02:31] <pepee> dr_willis, well, I can't find a recent build of the radeon driver
[02:31] <dmicool20> can any1 halp me?
[02:31] <pepee> dr_willis, and btw, is  "xserver-xorg-video-ati" the same as radeon?
[02:31] <Quix86> who is andrew morton and why does his laptop break
[02:31] <pepee> !ask | dmicool20
[02:32] <dmicool20> i am on ubuntu 13.04 and i have a wrong disp res
[02:32] <dmicool20> the correct one isnt in xorg.conf
[02:33] <BillyZane> are you using a DVI or VGA cable?
[02:33] <dmicool20> Iask
[02:33] <dmicool20> !ask
[02:33] <pepee> dmicool20, in the console, run xrandr
[02:33] <pepee> !help | dmicool20
[02:33] <dmicool20> !ask pls help with wrong disp res
[02:33] <Quix86> lol
[02:34] <Quix86> this is what happens when you use a bot instead of telling people something
[02:34] <dmicool20> !help
[02:34] <dmicool20> !patience
[02:34] <dmicool20> !q
[02:34] <pepee> !version
[02:34] <dmicool20> quit
[02:35] <LLckfan> My modem went out (like the cable company was working on the line) and now the router will not connect to the internet. Is there some way to get it to see the internet again without reinstalling the software? (BTW I am hooked up to the modem right now)
[02:35] <dmicool20> !poop
[02:35] <Ben64> dmicool20: stop
[02:35] <Quix86> LLckfan, have you tried sudo dhclient eth0?
[02:35] <dmicool20> sorry
[02:35] <pepee> anyway, dmicool20  <BillyZane> are you using a DVI or VGA cable?    <pepee> dmicool20, in the console, run xrandr
[02:35] <LLckfan> What
[02:35] <dmicool20> it says:
[02:35] <pepee> dmicool20, use pastebin
[02:35] <Quix86> hook the internet up to the computer it's not working on
[02:35] <Quix86> go into console
[02:35] <Quix86> type sudo dhclient eth0
[02:36] <LLckfan> It is working
[02:36] <LLckfan> the router is not working
[02:36] <Quix86> try #networking then
[02:37] <dmicool20> on pastebin, here is the output
[02:37] <dmicool20> http://pastebin.com/nBG5eVM4
[02:37] <dmicool20> hi | dmitry
[02:37] <dmicool20> !nick DmiCool20
[02:38] <TiZ> Hi there. What do I have to do to get GTK themes installed in /usr/local/themes to work properly? Right now, they just revert to the default theme.
[02:38] <DmiCool20> test, test
[02:38] <Ben64> DmiCool20: stop spamming
[02:38] <pepee> DmiCool20, /join #randomasdf
[02:38] <DmiCool20> sorry, nick chg
[02:39] <DmiCool20> i need a ubuntu answer! my disp res is wrng! http://pastebin.com/nBG5eVM4
[02:39] <pepee> DmiCool20, what's the max resolution of your monitor?
[02:39] <LLckfan> Have tried networking
[02:39] <Quix86> what did they say LLckfan
[02:39] <Ben64> DmiCool20: it's probably because you have it hooked up with s-video
[02:39] <LLckfan> Never replied
[02:39]  * Quix86 shrugs
[02:39] <DmiCool20> it is a widescreen crt hdtv, svideo supports it, how to create new mode?
[02:39] <Ben64> s-video doesn't do hd
[02:39] <LLckfan> And I cannot get into that networking
[02:39] <seronis> LLckfan: 1. keep idling in there =-),   2. how is it not working if you're connected to it now in order to log in here ?
[02:40] <DmiCool20> it should do 1280x720\
[02:40] <LLckfan> I am not connected to the roputer
[02:40] <pepee> he said he's connected directly to the modem
[02:40] <Ben64> DmiCool20: nope
[02:40] <DmiCool20> *router | LLckfan
[02:40] <pepee> LLckfan, the problem is your router then...
[02:41] <pepee> try configuring it or something
[02:41] <DmiCool20> Ben64: yep, http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Video
[02:41] <LLckfan> HOW
[02:41] <seronis> LLckfan: some modems bind to a specific MAC address as they are turned on. So you might need to unplug BOTH the router and modem and power cycle them
[02:41] <Ben64> LLckfan: google your router? find the manual?
[02:42] <DmiCool20> brb
[02:42] <Ben64> DmiCool20: still nope
[02:42] <seronis> LLckfan: specifially i've had 2 friends with routers that did this.  If the modem powered on while directly connected to the computer it would refuse to recognize the router until it was rebooted
[02:42] <DmiCool20> !afk
[02:42] <pepee> LLckfan, ^. generally, the routers use the URL: http://192.168.1.1/
[02:42] <LLckfan> I have the manual
[02:42] <LLckfan> Does not help
[02:42] <Ben64> read it
[02:42] <Ben64> or get a new router
[02:42] <LLckfan> Cannot get a new router
[02:42] <seronis> LLckfan:  unplug BOTH your modem AND your router for 30 seconds
[02:43] <LLckfan> Done that nol help
[02:43] <Guest78487>  67yh jklfggggggggggbhj
[02:44] <Guest78487> sorry, little sister jumping on keyboard
[02:45] <Guest78487> sorry computer freeze
[02:45] <Guest78487> iolkluyjhtgghm,mkiopp;oljkui8i8oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[02:46] <Corey> Guest78487: That's about enough. :-)
[02:46] <trism> TiZ: doesn't look like that will work, gtk only checks XDG_CONFIG_DIR/themes, then ~/.themes, then GTK_DATA_PREFIX/share/themes/, which will be set by default to /usr/share/themes/
[02:46] <Quix86> B-)
[02:46] <Guest78487> sorry, little sister on keyboard
[02:46] <trism> TiZ: you could change the environment variable, but then it wouldn't check for the default themes in /usr/share/themes/
[02:46] <Ben64> Guest78487: doesn't matter, stop doing that
[02:47] <pextris> Hot damn that's a lot of people.
[02:47] <Guest78487> wasnt me doing it
[02:47] <pextris> roboreb:
[02:47] <seronis> for anyone who dont know how to use it...      /ignore *!*@65-102-178-232.tukw.qwest.net
[02:47] <Ben64> Guest78487: we don't care, quit irc if it will continue to be an issue
[02:47] <echoe> what if 1/10th of them are looking at me!
[02:47] <ajw0100> if a user executes a script located in /usr/local/bin where is the best place to dump the log files from that script so that the user can access them?
[02:47] <pextris> I'm not sure if this channel is ok to ask general help questions, but is it ok to run python 3.x on ubuntu 11.04 ?
[02:47] <Corey> ajw0100: /var/log.
[02:47] <echoe> ... why wouldn't it be?
[02:47] <Quix86> If RMS uses your keyboard to type "don't buy from ATI - enemy of your freedom", who's fault is it?
[02:47] <Corey> ajw0100: Just be sure to set appropriate read permissions.
[02:48] <TiZ> trism: So I have to keep symlinking a common themes dir into /root and /var/lightdm so that root and lightdm get to use non-system themes?
[02:48] <TiZ> Bummer. Oh well.
[02:48] <Quix86> also I like to just do /ignore username all
[02:48] <DmiCool20> sory, wrong irc window, i was Guest78487
[02:49] <echoe> i was guest78487!
[02:49] <trism> TiZ: you could just install the themes to /usr/share/themes/
[02:49] <echoe> ... wait we're not doing sparticus here are we.
[02:49] <LLckfan> My modem went out (like the cable company was working on the line) and now the router will not connect to the internet. Is there some way to get it to see the internet again without reinstalling the software? (BTW I am hooked up to the modem right now)
[02:49] <Ben64> LLckfan: ask #networking
[02:49] <seronis> LLckfan:  routers dont require software.  nothing to reinstall
[02:49] <DmiCool20> !ask a question
[02:49] <TiZ> trism: And then lose them every time I reinstall. Which I prefer to do as opposed to upgrading.
[02:50] <Ben64> DmiCool20: if you want to mess with the bot, do so in PM. STOP doing it in here
[02:50] <dr_willis> TiZ:  back them up?
[02:50] <trism> TiZ: you could create a package with all your themes
[02:50] <pextris> oh my lord
[02:50] <DmiCool20> what is PM.
[02:50] <seronis> btw.. for those who didnt figure it out..  dmitry == guest778787 == dmicool20
[02:50] <seronis> just ignore the IP
[02:50] <dr_willis> link your themes to your ubuntu one account.. that way you always have them ;)
[02:51] <TiZ> trism: That strikes me as overkill. I was hoping I could create a /usr/local partition that I could keep between installs.
[02:51] <TiZ> dr_willis: you mean my dropbox account? ;)
[02:52] <TiZ> That's okay. I've had a /home/common folder that I've held onto forever; I just create /root/.themes and such whenever I do a reinstall. I'll keep doing that.
[02:52] <TiZ> that is, ln -s /home/common/themes /root/.themes
[02:52] <rcdrc> how to basic simple use gcc on terminal?
[02:53] <Ben64> rcdrc: man gcc
[02:53] <Corey> rcdrc: gcc file.c
[02:53] <DmiCool20> make <filename> | rcdrc
[02:53] <seronis> rcdrc:  also try  ##C++-basic
[02:53] <TiZ> rcdrc: gcc -o outputname in1.c in2.c in3.c etc etc etc
[02:53] <Corey> DmiCool20: Please stop giving crappy advice.
[02:53] <echoe> lol
[02:53] <seronis> !op issue with dmitry@65-102-178-232.tukw.qwest.net
[02:53] <DmiCool20> what i always do | corey
[02:54] <Corey> seronis: I'm right here. :-)
[02:54] <DmiCool20> not the advice, the make | corey
[02:54] <DmiCool20> :)
[02:54] <Corey> DmiCool20: make is not tied to gcc directly.
[02:54] <seronis> =-) sorry not good at finding stealth ops
[02:54] <DmiCool20> it does it by default | corey
[02:54] <DmiCool20> :)
[02:54] <rcdrc> if i don't have g++, can gcc use for c++?
[02:54] <Quix86> :)
[02:55] <rcdrc> thx sir
[02:55] <DouglasK> Hi, I'm using 12.04.  On boot, the wired network behaves fine.  After a while (anywhere from an hour to a couple days) it slows to a crawl, then non responsive.  The system load remains low (top shows load averages all below 0.3).  Ideas?
[02:55] <DmiCool20> same thing | rcdrc
[02:55] <Corey> rcdrc: Not without a makefile it doesn't.
[02:55] <DmiCool20> g++ is a link to gcc | rcdrc
[02:55] <Corey> Er, DmiCool20 ^
[02:55] <seronis> rcdrc:  sudo apt-get install build-essential cmake autoconf
[02:56] <DmiCool20> brb
[02:56] <rcdrc> so if i'm focus to C not c++, gcc is my choose?
[02:56] <LLckfan> This one come with a cd
[02:56] <LLckfan> And the cd has stuff to install
[02:56] <rcdrc> thx seronis.
[02:57] <seronis> LLckfan:  the CD is worthless.  routers use standard ethernet protocol to communicate.  the cd itself only logs into your router over telnet to set up encryption and other settings
[02:57] <rcdrc> so if i'm focus to C not c++, gcc is my chooice?
[02:57] <Corey> rcdrc: Either way.
[02:57] <seronis> rcdrc:  same compiler for both
[02:58] <Corey> clang is also gaining some traction.
[02:58] <Ben64> you should really check out the gcc man page :)  ....        gcc - GNU project C and C++ compiler
[02:58] <rcdrc> thx for all
[02:58] <johnjohn101> you're welcome
[02:58] <seronis> rcdrc: but your BEST bet is to join the ##c-basic and possibly ##C++-basic channels
[02:59] <seronis> rcdrc:  if you join ##C++ or ##C people there will tell you to ask about compilers elsewhere
[02:59] <rcdrc> ##c-basic <----is it for beginner?
[02:59] <seronis> 'basic'  =-)
[03:00] <seronis> also  #learnprogramming people are sometimes helpful
[03:00] <rcdrc> ok sir,.
[03:01] <rcdrc> but i want to ask, caused i sue ubuntu, when in a.c(myfirst C file) ,why conio.h get trouble?
[03:01] <AlanShore> Someone registered DennyCrane. =(
[03:01] <rcdrc> but i want to ask, caused i use ubuntu, when in a.c(myfirst C file) ,why conio.h get trouble?
[03:01] <seronis> rcdrc:  conio.h is a windows specific file if i remember
[03:02] <rcdrc> so?.what in ubuntu?
[03:02] <seronis> it doesnt exist
[03:02] <seronis> its not part of the 'standard library'
[03:02] <harris> i have a disk how can i make a copy of it
[03:02] <Corey> AlanShore: It's droppable if you want it.
[03:03] <AlanShore> Well, one assumes the other person isn't going to give it up
[03:03] <rcdrc> so?.what alternatif library as conio.h in ubuntu?
[03:03] <seronis> rcdrc:  none.  its a M$ specific file
[03:03] <seronis> its not part of 'c'
[03:04] <seronis> ie:  if you want code that works on linux/mac you shouldnt use it, or anything inside it
[03:05] <rcdrc> so, getch() not neede in  C  of ubuntu?
[03:05] <rcdrc> so, getch() not needed in  C  of ubuntu?
[03:05] <harris> dr_willis, i have a dvd that has a quick time video on it how can i make another copy of it
[03:06] <seronis> rcdrc:  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/314401/how-to-read-a-line-from-the-console-in-c   faster to read that than for me to type out
[03:07] <harris> seronis, can you please help me
[03:07] <harris> seronis, i have a dvd that has like a quick time formatted video on it
[03:08] <harris> how can i make another copy of it without the file just the dvd
[03:08] <seronis> harris:  i've been using xubuntu for under a month.  and even when i was using Win7 i refused to use apple formats so im the absolute worst person to ask
[03:08] <camilo_> shockwave in ubuntu... as I do
[03:08] <seronis> but the 'cp' command copies files
[03:09] <seronis> cp  [targetFile]  [destinationPath/filename]
[03:09] <harris> how can you make a copy of disk using brasero
[03:10] <seronis> http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/use-brasero-to-burn-cddvd-in-ubuntu-linux/
[03:10] <rcdrc> ok, seonis thx for your sugestion.
[03:10] <rcdrc> ok, seronis thx for your sugestion.
[03:10] <somsip> !tab | rcdrc
[03:10] <johnjohn101> harris, it's ez to copy a dvd using brasero
[03:10] <camilo_> shockwave in ubuntu... only works with wine?
[03:11] <harris> do you have a guide johnjohn101
[03:11] <seronis> rcdrc: no problem. ya will figure out with a little experience (and googling) which files are actually part of the C language standard library, and which you might have used that are just ms-dos relics
[03:11] <johnjohn101> harris http://mylinuxnotebook.blogspot.com/2009/01/copy-cd-dvd-ubuntu-linux.html
[03:12] <rcdrc> ok,seronis.thx ,i will try to do it
[03:13] <silv3r_m00n> hi
[03:13] <silv3r_m00n> i need access to natty packages, this page does not work anymore, http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/allpackages
[03:13] <silv3r_m00n> where can i get the packages
[03:14] <harris> johnjohn101, do you have a video guide
[03:14] <tgm4883> !eol | silv3r_m00n
[03:14] <johnjohn101> harris, i follow those instructions to the leter
[03:14] <harris> i need a video guide this is the only copy i got
[03:15] <silv3r_m00n> all right i will go backwards, lucid packages are there
[03:15] <tgm4883> silv3r_m00n, lucid is an LTS release and supported for longer
[03:15] <johnjohn101> harris, I can't help you then.  good luck
[03:15] <harris> johnjohn101, so i put the disk in click brasero
[03:15] <ssshvb> hey ive got a messege from my ubuntu
[03:15] <harris> click copy
[03:15] <ssshvb> " system program problem detected
[03:15] <ssshvb> Do you want to report the problem now ?
[03:16] <ssshvb> and two buttons   " How can i found what the problem is ?
[03:16] <FloodBot1> ssshvb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:16] <harris> can someone please help me
[03:16] <harris> i need to make a copy of a disk
[03:17] <seronis> harris:  both myself and john gave you links with instructions on using brasero
[03:17] <harris> you didnt
[03:17] <echoe> harris: www.google.com type "brasero burn disk ubuntu"
[03:17] <LLckfan> My modem went out (like the cable company was working on the line) and now the router will not connect to the internet. Is there some way to get it to see the internet again without reinstalling the software? (BTW I am hooked up to the modem right now)
[03:17] <johnjohn101> harris, start brasero from dash, there is an option to copy a cd/dvd
[03:17] <seronis> harris:  http://bit.ly/10GgLyo
[03:19] <harris> johnjohn101, what should it say under the select a disk to write to
[03:19] <seronis> LLckfan: if unplugging the power from both the router AND the modem for a THIRTY seconds doesnt solve the problem then this is an issue for networking help
[03:19] <johnjohn101> harris, just hit copy
[03:20] <harris> ok i did
[03:20] <johnjohn101> it will copy the existing dvd to your drive, then prompt you to put the blank in.
[03:21] <LLckfan> network help is not helping
[03:21] <harris> ok great ty
[03:21] <johnjohn101> LLckfan: your cable modem isn't working. to prove it, use an ethernet cable to plug your computer into it. if you dont' get an ip address then it's not the OS
[03:21] <seronis> LLckfan:  irc = idle response chat.  either follow advice given or wait for someone in #networking to respond.  while waiting continue to google for information on your specific router.  log into its administrative settings page and LOOK at the settings
[03:22] <seronis> johnjohn101: his router stopped working.  cable modem direct connect works fine
[03:22] <seronis> its already not an OS issue
[03:22] <LLckfan> No advice has been given
[03:23] <tgm4883> LLckfan, out of curiosity, did you power cycle both the modem and router?
[03:23] <seronis> LLckfan:  WE gave advice.   log into your router through web browser.  google for proper settings
[03:23] <LLckfan> I cannot log into the router
[03:23] <LLckfan> IT IS NOT CONNECTING TO THE INTERNET
[03:23] <johnjohn101> your router is hosed. go buy another one
[03:24] <LLckfan> It is not hose
[03:24] <echoe> well it's probably made out of plastic, not hose, but it's not working very well
[03:24] <tgm4883> LLckfan, your router not connecting to the internet has zero to do with your ability to login to it
[03:24] <clcto> LLckfan: you can connect to a router that isnt connected to the internet ...
[03:24] <SolarisB1y> its jose
[03:24] <somsip> !ot before it gets more heated...
[03:24] <somsip> !ot | before it gets more heated...
[03:24] <tgm4883> LLckfan, also, stop shouting
[03:24] <SolarisB1y> maybe you didn't pay your bill
[03:24] <johnjohn101> boot up to a live ubuntu cd with an ethernet cable to your router, it you can't get to the internet, then it's the router
[03:25] <tgm4883> SolarisB1y, johnjohn101 please stop, neither of that is helping
[03:25] <echoe> maybe your cable isn't working
[03:25] <tgm4883> echoe, ^^
[03:25] <echoe> meh idk. also okay. i am a bit sugerrushy to be saying advice anyhoo
[03:25] <clcto> echoe: he said that he can connect when he is just connecting to the modem, there is something wrong with the router
[03:26] <clcto> LLckfan: did you do a factory reset on the router?
[03:26] <seronis> LLckfan:  you dont need to be on the internet to log into your router.  that is where your logic is failing you
[03:26] <LLckfan> No
[03:26] <LLckfan> And if I can help I am not going to
[03:26] <clcto> LLckfan: try that
[03:26] <seronis> you can log into a router's settings page, using a web browser, with no cable modem hooked up at all
[03:26] <tgm4883> LLckfan, you are not going to what?
[03:26] <LLckfan> I have tried thzt
[03:26] <SolarisB1y> use that router..
[03:26] <LLckfan> It says cannot find website
[03:27] <somsip> LLckfan: clcto seronis: way off topic here. Please take it elsewhere
[03:27] <tgm4883> LLckfan, what router
[03:28] <johnjohn101> try a live cd and an ethernet cable.  ethernet to router is pretty reliable with the live cd. if that doesn't work, it's hardware.  that's my two cents.
[03:29] <tgm4883> johnjohn101, please stop
[03:29] <LLckfan> Linksys
[03:29] <tgm4883> LLckfan, linksys what?
[03:31] <LLckfan> Linksys Router
[03:31] <somsip> LLckfan: last warning. Please take this conversation elsewhere. Now
[03:32] <inflex> Anyone able to assist... have a HP Touchsmart 600-1000 with an nVidia GT230 GPU, works fine with the framebuffer/failsafe, but as soon as I try to use the propriatory or opensource nVidia drivers I end up with my screen going like this -> http://dxp.me/i/hp600.jpg  :(
[03:33] <somsip> !optimus | inflex
[03:33] <LLckfan> Sorry people ask me question
[03:33] <SolarisB1y> bad aim is what you call it.
[03:34] <seronis> !nomodeset | inflex
[03:34] <seronis> inflex: i hae no clue what nomodeset is for.. but someone with similar problem had that suggested to them
[03:34] <seronis> so google thoroughly
[03:35] <inflex> I've used nomodeset, that's fine, it works to stop it going to a *black* screen, but that's not effective in this case any more :(
[03:35] <alberto> hi
[03:35] <AAA111> is this chat for octopus
[03:35] <inflex> ( I can boot to a normal/good console-only system right now, the mangling is only happening now when I start X )
[03:36] <dr_willis> inflex:  and whats your video chipset? and what drivers are you using?
[03:36] <somsip> inflex: couple of things suggested here. One is to try XSwat PPA and YMMV. See !PPA http://askubuntu.com/questions/41681/blank-screen-after-installing-nvidia-restricted-driver
[03:36] <AAA111> why ink come out when squeeze
[03:36] <harris> why cant brosero copy quicktime movies
[03:36] <harris> i got an error
[03:37] <dr_willis> harris:  copy them where?
[03:37] <harris> to a new disk
[03:37] <harris> my mom made a class slideshow
[03:37] <somsip> inflex: and a bug report here that may be worth reading through (old) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+bug/660331
[03:37] <inflex> dr_willis: nVidia GT216M
[03:37] <dr_willis> harris:  what are you trying to do exactly? give us details..
[03:38] <somsip> dr_willis: he wants to use Brasero to copy a DVD. A few people have tried to help him. Be forwarned
[03:38] <harris> my mom made a class slideshow and saved it in quicktime format i have a disk that has the video burned but not the file
[03:38] <inflex> dr_willis: tried the neavoua driver and the propriatory nVidia ones ( from 304, 310, 313 )
[03:38] <harris> what free software can i use to make it work
[03:38] <harris> i need to make another copy
[03:38] <harris> asap
[03:38] <dr_willis> harris:  use 'devede' ti generate a proper dvd video ISO file . then burn it to disk with whatever tool you like to butn the iso to disk.
[03:39] <dr_willis> harris:  if you are wanting somthing playable in a DVD
[03:39] <harris> how do i use devede
[03:39] <harris> no i need it same file
[03:39] <harris> same exact thing
[03:39] <harris> but another copy
[03:39] <inflex> dr_willis: might have to go with the blacklisting option
[03:39] <CrispyHex> Hey noob question.
[03:39] <CrispyHex> I have windows 7 installed and running on a terabyte HDD.
[03:39] <CrispyHex> I have a 60 gigabyte SSD with nothing on it.
[03:39] <CrispyHex> How do I, from a bootable ubuntu flashdrive, install ubuntu on the SSD?
[03:39] <CrispyHex> I essentially want to dual-boot the two OSs but I want them to each be full and independent.
[03:39] <FloodBot1> CrispyHex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:39] <dr_willis> asking how to use somthing befor you even have it installed.....   install it..   run devede... figure it out..
[03:40] <dr_willis> harris:  again. you are being a bit vague. You want somthing playable in a DVD player. use devede.. if you just want the FILES on a data cd/dvd. theres numerous burner tools for that. that do NOT convert/alter the video file
[03:41] <harris> ok my dad is going to do it
[03:41]  * dr_willis closes the ticket
[03:41]  * inflex does so dearly love X over SSH *loving sigh*
[03:41] <harris> thank you for trying
[03:41] <SolarisB1y> CrispyHex: just pick the ssd during installation for ubuntu, update grub later and add an entry for windows on the other disk -
[03:41] <johnjohn101> thanks harris
[03:42] <harris> for what>
[03:42] <harris> ?
[03:42] <johnjohn101> sorry, brasero didn't work for you
[03:42] <SolarisB1y> you may need to tell your bios to boot the disk containing grub first -
[03:42] <dr_willis> theres burner tools other then brassero
[03:42] <dr_willis> i tend to use k3b
[03:42] <harris> my dad will hopefully get it if not the schools it person will
[03:43] <CrispyHex> what if I disconnected the terabyte(windows) from the computer and made it so the SSD is the only drive. would it cause problems once I hooked the HDD back up?
[03:44] <dr_willis> CrispyHex:  that should work.
[03:44] <SolarisB1y> assuming you disconnected it properly no -
[03:44] <LLckfan> My modem went out (like the cable company was working on the line) and now the router will not connect to the internet. Is there some way to get it to see the internet again without reinstalling the software? (BTW I am hooked up to the modem right now)
[03:44] <dr_willis> CrispyHex:  you will need to boot the ubuntu drive. then rerun update-grub  if you wan tto boot windows via grub.. or just select what hd to boot ivia the bios stuff
[03:44] <SolarisB1y> you'll still need to update grub to run a "dual boot" later
[03:44] <harris> ok good night\
[03:45] <inflex> dr_willis: downloading the v319 driver direct from nVidia, creating my own xorg.conf .... fingers crossed.
[03:45] <SolarisB1y> dr_willis: grub scans all disks or just the disk its installed on for os?
[03:45] <dr_willis> SolarisB1y:  all of them
[03:45] <SolarisB1y> ah
[03:45] <SolarisB1y> so even easier
[03:45] <CrispyHex> OK so unhook the HDD, install Ubuntu on SSD, reconnect the HDD, then update Grub?
[03:45] <silv3r_m00n> i am running ubuntu 64bit, how can i installed perl 32bit ?
[03:45] <SolarisB1y> not sure why you need to unhook the hdd
[03:47] <SolarisB1y> you said its blank and the other has windows- leave the TB in and install to the SDD unless you need to for some other reason ubuntu will ask what disk to install too and when you intsall grub it should scan disks -
[03:47] <somsip> silv3r_m00n: a couple of shots - a maybe, and a 'it wont': http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1527259/how-can-i-install-a-separate-perl-without-disturbing-the-existing-one http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16604905/how-can-i-install-mysql-client-of-32bit-into-ubuntu-12-04-of-64bit
[03:47] <CrispyHex> to make it simple. as of now ubuntu keeps trying to install on the HDD alongside windows. when I try to install onto the SSD it says something like " no root defined" or something.
[03:47] <somsip> silv3r_m00n: erm..sorry. The second one refers to mysql. Moment of madness there
[03:47] <SolarisB1y> ok i see CrispyHex then you have a reason
[03:47] <SolarisB1y> sounds like a grub error btw -
[03:48] <somsip> silv3r_m00n: so, another maybe instead http://askubuntu.com/questions/81879/how-do-i-install-32-bit-perl-tgicl-2-1-1
[03:48] <DmiCool20> hi
[03:48] <DmiCool20> im back
[03:48] <CrispyHex> I'll give it a try. Thanks for the counsel.
[03:48] <johnjohn101> silv3r_m00n: you can download a community package of activestate 32 bit perl for linux.
[03:49] <DmiCool20> !ask My disp res is wrong (cont of prev prob
[03:49] <DmiCool20> )
[03:49] <SolarisB1y> yw.
[03:49] <DmiCool20> !help
[03:49] <LLckfan> My modem went out (like the cable company was working on the line) and now the router will not connect to the internet. Is there some way to get it to see the internet again without reinstalling the software? (BTW I am hooked up to the modem right now)
[03:49] <DmiCool20> !?
[03:49] <DmiCool20> !nick DmiCool20
[03:49]  * SolarisB1y in literal shock
[03:50] <CrispyHex> oh, what would be the proper way to update grub after I hook the HDD back up(after ubuntu installation on SSD)
[03:50]  * DmiCool20 is cool
[03:50] <DmiCool20> bye
[03:50] <SolarisB1y> so it was your cable company.. all the admins thought they were going to fix it
[03:50]  * SolarisB1y rofling
[03:50] <somsip> !ops | LLckfan was trolling earlier and has returned with the exact same question
[03:50] <SolarisB1y> lol
[03:50] <Corey> LLckfan: That's enough.
[03:50] <javier_> hello. I was wondering if anyone can help me get a few webapps working on 13.04 unity
[03:52] <CrispyHex> oh, what would be the proper way to update grub after I hook the HDD back up(after ubuntu installation on SSD)
[03:52] <SolarisB1y> update-grub command should do it CrispyHex
[03:53] <CrispyHex> Thank you.
[03:56] <javier_> is there a way to get the messaging menu to recognize reddit or gmail/google?
[03:56] <DmiCool20> hi
[03:57] <dr_willis> theres gmail indocator applets to show gmail messages ive seen
[03:57] <dr_willis> no idea on reddit
[03:58] <timhansen> evening, all. wondering if there's a quick way to re-generate grub's boot menu in 13.04?
[03:59] <DmiCool20> reinstall grub! :)
[03:59] <somsip> timhansen: man update-grub
[03:59] <DmiCool20> ;lkjfdsa
[03:59] <DmiCool20> sorry
[04:00] <DmiCool20> faulty kybd
[04:00] <dr_willis> update-grub is 'the' way to generate the grub menus
[04:00] <seronis> timhansen: look at  /etc/default/grub to see if any minor settings need tweaked then follow somsips advice
[04:00] <timhansen> somsip, seronis - thanks
[04:00] <somsip> timhansen: np. It's straightforward if you check the man, but just ask for clarification if needed
[04:03] <sere> my mouse and keyboard are draggy slow.. almost like the batteries are dying but the arent.. im on a labtop using a logitech usb reciever is this normal http://paste.ubuntu.com/5712349/
[04:03] <dr_willis> or its your video drivers that are slow
[04:04] <Corey> sere: ...labtop?
[04:04] <sere> dr_willis: thats what i was thinking but i have ati drivers and i can play movies just fine
[04:04] <sere> Corey: yea
[04:04] <Corey> sere: "laptop." :-)
[04:05] <LLckfan> My modem went out I saw them come back on (like the cable company was working on the line) and now the router will not connect to the internet. Is there some way to get it to see the internet again without reinstalling the software? (BTW I am hooked up to the modem right now)
[04:05] <Corey> High time that got fixed.
[04:05] <dr_willis> sere  i had a bug once where X would slow down after time.. if you reboot, ore start the x server is is slow froim the beginning? or is it ok for a while?
[04:06] <sere> dr_willis:  always slow
[04:06] <johnjohn101> could it be a usb polling rate?
[04:07] <inflex> *sigh* my X (GT-216M) issues have changed slightly, but still dud :(
[04:09] <sere> brb im going to unplug the onboard mouse
[04:13] <sere> unplugging it did nothing
[04:15] <scythe> So I'm not sure how to Google this one, which led me here.
[04:16] <scythe> When ssh wants to use my private key, it asks for a password, and it does so by popping up a little window.
[04:16] <scythe> But if I'm already ssh'ing into the system, and I have no X session, it just fails.
[04:17] <scythe> I have -absolutely no fucking reason- to X-forward besides using ssh, which should not require X at all.
[04:17] <scythe> so how do I disable this behavior? I don't even know what it's called.
[04:19] <scythe> I'd much rather it just ask for my password in the tty.
[04:19] <maher77> hi
[04:19] <dr_willis> scythe:  what ssh client/terminal app are you using?
[04:20] <dr_willis> ive never seen ssh pop up a dialog asking for my ssh password.
[04:21] <brian_> Hello?
[04:21] <dr_willis> Jello!
[04:21] <scythe> dr_willis: Uh, 'ssh', as in, typing 'ssh scythe@host.gatech.edu', or, in this case, git-over-ssh, which runs the same command.
[04:22] <brian_> I'm having trouble installing Vi Improved on my machine.
[04:22] <scythe> It's from a default install of 12.04.
[04:22] <somsip> brian_: how so?
[04:22] <dr_willis> scythe:  so you are doing this in 'gnome-terminal' ?
[04:22] <scythe> It happens in gnome-terminal, but it also happens if I try to do it via an ssh tunnel...
[04:22] <scythe> wait a second
[04:23] <scythe> an ssh tunnel built from an autossh session
[04:23] <dr_willis> makes me wonder if its not gnome-keyring doing somthing
[04:23] <scythe> running in a gnome-terminal
[04:23] <brian_> somsip: When I run apt-get install vim I receive  root@Tank:/home/brian# apt-get install vim
[04:23] <brian_> Reading package lists... Done
[04:23] <brian_> Building dependency tree
[04:23] <brian_> Reading state information... Done
[04:23] <brian_> Package vim is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:23] <brian_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:23] <FloodBot1> brian_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:23] <somsip> !pastebin | brian_
[04:23] <qin> scythe: what if you try in real tty (Alt-Ctrl-F1)?
[04:23] <dr_willis> brian_:  done a 'sudo apt-get update' lately?
[04:24] <somsip> brian_: and I believe you need to be installing vim-full or vim-nox or one of the other similar flavours
[04:24] <dr_willis> !info vim
[04:24] <somsip> !info vim-full
[04:24] <somsip> hmmm
[04:24] <dr_willis> i thought vim-full was the default.. but i may be wrong
[04:25] <dr_willis> used to be vim-tiny was the default
[04:25] <brian_> Sorry for the flood. I'v never used IRC. dr_willis: I just ran one and it says it failedto fetch some files.
[04:25] <somsip> dr_willis: maybe it's changed. It was vim-tiny...
[04:25] <scythe> qin: Well, ssh works now, but git is still being weird. I'll check the docs and come back.
[04:25] <dr_willis> brian_:  after it updates. try installing  vim again
[04:26] <scythe> My ~/.ssh/config contains Host "host", User "user", Key "key". If I enter the key using ssh -i key user@host it works, but ssh user@host doesn't.
[04:26] <scythe> I guess that's not a distro issue anymore.
[04:26] <scythe> But thanks.
[04:27] <somsip> scythe: try IdentityFile not key
[04:27] <brian_> dr_willis: It is saying that it failed to fetch quite a few files.
[04:28] <dr_willis> brian_:  try installing again.. and see if it fails.. you may want to PASTEBIN the output of the sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, and sudo apt-get install vim    command.
[04:29] <dr_willis> !pastebin
[04:29] <elisa87> do you know what should I do if omp.h is not recognized inside my mounted disk image? I am trying to compile my program using chroot inside the mounted disk image : omp.h: No such file or directory
[04:30] <xehanort> hello everyone
[04:32] <brian_> dr_willis:  http://pastebin.com/xsSZaQij
[04:32] <sere> what does irqpoll do for the grub?
[04:32] <elisa87> dr_willis: do you know what should I do if omp.h is not recognized inside my mounted disk image? I am trying to compile my program using chroot inside the mounted disk image : omp.h: No such file or directory
[04:33] <somsip> !maverick | brian_
[04:33] <somsip> !eol | brian_ (sorry to hit you with factoids but they are relevant)
[04:34] <somsip> brian_: so you really need to upgrade from the old, unsupported version you have, and then you'll have access to the packages you need
[04:36] <brian_> somsip: Okay thank you. I guess I better go burn and install a newer version. I tried to put mint on this machine but apparently my processor is not supported. It says I dont have a x32 or a x64 but I have a I686 CPU
[04:36] <somsip> brian_: can't help you with mint, but an upgrade of ubuntu should help you
[04:36] <harris> how can i rename a flash drive its named windows support and i hate seeing it since windows is garbage
[04:37] <kiyoura> lol
[04:37] <brian_> somsip: So any newer version of ubuntu will do fine? What versions would you recommend for a older computer? I need some thing light weight.
[04:39] <WeThePeople> brian_, fluxbox
[04:39] <clcto> brian_: go with chrunchbang
[04:39] <somsip> brian_: I would tend to recommend Long Term Support. So 12.04, and maybe Lubuntu or Xubuntu for the lightweight desktop
[04:40] <brian_> somsip: I'm using an old version of xubuntu right now so I guess I'll stick with this. It is running well. Thanks a dozen! Gotta find a blank DVD
[04:40] <somsip> brian_: no problem. Good luck
[04:40] <clcto> brian_: just use a usb
[04:40] <clcto> oop, hes gone
[04:41] <ClientAlive> is it safe to assume that anything you can do with a live cd or usb can also be done over a network? In other words... can I just store the live image on my server, connect a second computer to that server, clone the image into the second computer's ram and expect to fire up the live system on that second computer then?
[04:41] <somsip> !ltsp | ClientAlive (I think)
[04:41] <clcto> ClientAlive: yes, if your computer can boot from ethernet, which most cn
[04:41] <harris> anyone know
[04:42] <somsip> harris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[04:42] <ClientAlive> ha ha! I think the tools are all there to do what I need to. Just a matter of assembling stuff.  :)
[04:42] <clcto> google is a hard tool for some people i guess
[04:42] <somsip> !pxe | ClientAlive
[04:43] <somsip> ho hum
[04:43] <harris> somsip, thats the partion name i want to change the name of the whole usb flash drive like the name that shows up in launcher
[04:43] <elisa87> please look at here and let me know if you might know why this version of gcc can't realize omp.h ? Is it related to gcc or is it related to the chroot?
[04:44] <elisa87> please look at here and let me know if you might know why this version of gcc can't realize omp.h ? Is it related to gcc or is it related to the chroot? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5712410/
[04:44] <somsip> harris: read it again
[04:44] <harris> which section
[04:44] <ClientAlive> well, (and don't kill me for saying this), I'm working on a soln to automate windoze installs to customer computers but I run linux on my server - so, using linux to deploy live windows install to a customer computer I plug into a smart switch on my network.
[04:44] <somsip> harris: and that's where I stop helping you. Good luck
[04:46] <harris> "This guide covers editing partition labels"
[04:47] <dr_willis> and the partion label is whats used as the mountpoint name. if it exists.
[04:47] <dr_willis> otherwise it uses the UUID
[04:48] <dr_willis> and dont use spaces in the label. it can be annoying. ;)
[04:49] <clcto> spaces is file names suck
[04:52] <sere> dr_willis: i fixed it by adding irqpoll to boot
[04:53] <harris> dr_willis, i still cant get the srware iron browser to work
[04:53] <dr_willis> no  idea what  'iron browser' is
[04:54] <harris> http://www.srware.net/en/index.php
[04:55] <dr_willis> yet another browser... i'll pass..
[04:56] <harris> please
[04:56] <dr_willis> please what?  I know nothing about that browser..or seen you state any details as to what the actual problem is.
[05:01] <seronis> how do i check whats being used for swap ?
[05:01] <dr_willis> the free command shows the amount of swap being used. if thats what you mean
[05:01] <dr_willis> 'free'
[05:02] <IdleOne> 'free -h' for a readable output
[05:03] <seronis> that works. i forget what tool i looked at last week but it was mentioning 'zero' for swap and I wasnt sure if it meant my swap partition was being ignored
[05:03] <seronis> 'free' shows that its there.. its just not needed (or at least zero used out of the proper limit)
[05:11] <Adie> Is there any way to make the whole ubuntu interface smaller?
[05:11] <Adie> I am on a netbook and some of the windows are too small to use
[05:11] <Adie> or... too big
[05:11] <Adie> lol
[05:12] <dr_willis> you can shrink the left side panel making it thinner in the setttings somewhere.
[05:12] <dr_willis> down to like 1/2 its normal width
[05:12] <Adie> need moe than that
[05:12] <Adie> I need everything smaller ^_^
[05:12] <dr_willis> set it to auto hide
[05:12] <dr_willis> use smaller fonts for the rest
[05:13] <dr_willis> some apps just use annoying defaults and cant go any smaller, you can alt-click on them anywhere to drag them up and around the screen edges if theres info thats off screen
[05:13] <dr_willis> i recall the wesnoth game having the issue on my netboolk
[05:14] <Adie> yeah
[05:14] <Adie> I am using hexchat here, and some of the prefrences menu is cut off
[05:14] <dr_willis> thats whats annoying about netbooks and their annoying screens at times.. 1024x600 or 800 ;)
[05:14] <dr_willis> and here my cellphone has 1080p res ;)
[05:15] <dr_willis> on a screen 1/4 the size
[05:15] <jony_easyrider> how can I save a bootable CD or DVD in an iso file in Ubuntu 12.04?
[05:16] <dr_willis> jony_easyrider:  you can use the 'dd'  command to image a cd/dvd into a iso file
[05:16] <dr_willis> cat might work also.
[05:16] <dr_willis> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/foo.iso  bs=4M
[05:16] <jony_easyrider> dr_willis, can you give me a name of a software?
[05:16] <dr_willis> 'dd' is the name of the software
[05:16] <brian_> I'm back and I got more problems. Trying to install Xubuntu 13.04 i386 and I am getting the error ssaying I do not have a supported CPU for the kernel... I thought the 32bit version would work with my i686 CPU. Can any one help?
[05:17] <dr_willis> there may be other tools. like k9copy or brassero that might be able to also
[05:17] <dr_willis> brian_:  12.10+ requires a PAE enabled cpu. what is your cpu exactly?
[05:18] <DouglasK> In netstat, a line like this: "tcp        0      0 fog6.local:ssh          ip223.hichina.com:50022 ESTABLISHED" means that the hichina.com is connecting inbound to the .local machine, yes?
[05:19] <brian_> Centrino though I know there is a way to see more information. I'm not sure how to do that on this yet.
[05:19] <HasArrived>   strange thing happened. I powered down my ubuntu pc with a usb hd plugged in. The open folder is now a strange file with 0 byte and all the files inside the folder are missing.
[05:20] <CrispyHex> Hello again. Got Ubuntu installed on the SSD. Haven't hooked the HDD back up yet. Got a weird problem.  It's a weird glitch or something where there's two desktops. One looks like a minimized window(in size) ontop of the other which is normal(full-screen).  I have two trash bin icons. One at the bottom of the Unity bar, and another higher up just underneath the apps.  Has anybody experienced this or heard of this before?
[05:20] <tohuw> DouglasK: specifically, it means a client at ip223.hichina.com has established an SSH connection over port 50022. It is worth noting this does not imply the client has any particular access; only that the SSH tunnel is established and in some phase of layer 7 transmission.
[05:21] <DouglasK> or at least a connection to the ssh port, not necessarily logged in / with access, yes?
[05:21] <aMoniker> vsftpd or proftpd?
[05:22] <dr_willis> aMoniker: best would be to use ssh/scp/sftp
[05:22] <CrispyHex> And I have two sets of the icons that appear in the top right corner( envalope, internet connection, sound, and time). One in the top right corner where it should be, and another just to the left of it.lol  really weird.
[05:22] <dr_willis> CrispyHex:  sounds like a video driver bug. what is your video chipset?
[05:22] <aMoniker> dr_willis: In this case I will probably need plain FTP
[05:23] <CrispyHex> radeon 6800>??? I think>?
[05:23] <dr_willis> aMoniker:  flip a coin.. youve give us no details as to the use case for the ftp server.
[05:23] <aMoniker> dr_willis: which is easier to set up?
[05:23] <dr_willis> theres other ftp servers in the repos also.
[05:24] <dr_willis> CrispyHex:  you have installed the fglrx drivers?
[05:24] <aMoniker> dr_willis: which is best?
[05:24] <dr_willis> there is no 'best'
[05:24] <dr_willis> it depends on your needs
[05:24] <DouglasK> tohuw: or at least a connection to the ssh server on the local machine, not necessarily logged in / with access, yes?
[05:24] <aMoniker> dr_willis: which is of the highest quality while being easy to set up?
[05:24] <CrispyHex> not sure what that is, so most likely no. haha
[05:24] <brian_> dr_willis: All I can seem to find out is it is a Centrino I think it is clocked at 1.5ghz Only one core
[05:24] <clcto> aMoniker: if you have sshd you have scp
[05:24]  * dr_willis has to run.. bbl
[05:25] <aMoniker> clcto: Neither of those are FTP.
[05:25] <clcto> aMoniker: nope but scp works fine
[05:25] <aMoniker> clcto: Not for this application.
[05:25] <tohuw> DouglasK: Correct. To see precisely what the account is doing, I suggest looking at logged in users first: who -a
[05:26] <DouglasK> tohuw, yup, nothing unexpected there, just me from my ssh session on the local lan and the consoles.
[05:27] <aMoniker> What about PureFTPd?
[05:28] <DouglasK> tohuw, it's about what I thought, but as I was having other network related issues, I figured make sure this is chased down.  I've now set the router to block incoming from that class c.
[05:28] <tohuw> DouglasK: kill them off, if you don't want that client hanging out on the port. Or block them from your firewall, which it seems you've done. :)
[05:28] <aMoniker> I guess no one knows FTP here. Looks like PureFTPd is a good choice.
[05:29] <tohuw> DouglasK: What service is running on that port? sudo netstat -lnp | grep 50022
[05:30] <Adie> :/
[05:30] <Adie> hi
[05:30] <DouglasK> tohuw, that shows no output
[05:31] <tohuw> aMoniker: barely 5 minutes have passed since you asked your question. Also...
[05:31] <tohuw> !best > aMoniker
[05:32] <DouglasK> tohuw: also, even tho I've set a firewall on the router to block it, I'm still seeing what looks like new connections from that addy
[05:32] <aMoniker> tohuw: I demand speed.
[05:33] <aMoniker> tohuw: Also...
[05:33] <qin> aMoniker: ftp is low quality in general, for own purpose use sshfs, commercialy web upload or ssh
[05:33] <aMoniker> !hi > tohuw
[05:33] <qin> aMoniker: or rsync
[05:33] <aMoniker> qin: "Hey everyone, I need a banana, which brand is good?"
[05:33] <HasArrived>   strange thing happened. I powered down my ubuntu pc with a usb hd plugged in. The open folder is now after booting a strange file with 0 byte and all the files inside the folder are missing. What can i do about that?
[05:33] <tohuw> DouglasK: blocking by IP is ultimately futile. It is best to determine what the intruders are doing and how to prevent the extraneous connections.
[05:33] <aMoniker> qin: "You don't want bananas - you want apples. They're great."
[05:34] <qin> !ftp | aMoniker
[05:34] <aMoniker> !FTPd | qin
[05:34] <DouglasK> tohuw: *nod*  I suspect it's a dictionary attack, which is hopeless against my sshd instance as it doesn't allow password logins.
[05:35] <clcto> doesnt filezilla have a daemon
[05:35] <tohuw> DouglasK: Is 50022 a valid, expected SSH port on your server?
[05:36] <DouglasK> No.
[05:36] <aMoniker> tohuw: Oh, there's no !hi
[05:36] <aMoniker> !ping > tohuw
[05:37] <DouglasK> tohuw, nope ... my sshd there runs on the standard port 22 only.  I have a backup to another server, but not on port 50022.
[05:38] <tohuw> DouglasK: Is your server in front of your router? Why was a request to 50022 allowed to open an SSH listener on that port?
[05:38] <DouglasK> tohuw, the local port on that line is port 22, the 50022 was on the *.hichina.com address side.
[05:38] <DouglasK> the server is behind the router, not in a DMZ.
[05:39] <tohuw> DouglasK: Ah, I just went back and saw that now. X_X Sorry. Anyway, sounds like a non-event, as you said. If they persist, set up a honeypot! :D
[05:40] <qin> DouglasK: knockd and fail2ban will reduce chinese traffic on ssh tenfold
[05:41] <DouglasK> tohuw, I reckon that as long as they don't hit a vulnerability in the sshd, I'm safe, unless they've got their hands on my private key.  :)
[05:41] <DouglasK> qin, making notes of that for tomorrow.  going to bed shortly here.
[05:45] <becom33> is there way I can create complete backup with my data and format the whole disk and build the system from that backup
[05:48] <somsip> becom33: to what aim?
[05:51] <switching> is lubuntu pronounced loo bun tu or el ubuntu
[05:52] <becom33> i wanted install mac osx just for experiment . I can't risk my data or my install OS . i've been using this OS for past 2 years without any issues
[05:52] <clcto> its not pronounced
[05:52] <becom33> and I have like tonz of softwares and custom scripts I wrote to get my work easy
[05:53] <switching> clcto so what do i tell people when they ask what linux distro is running on the comp im putting lubuntu on?
[05:53] <somsip> becom33: then dd will make a perfect copy as a disk img. Or clonezilla
[05:53] <tohuw> !backup | becom33
[05:53] <becom33> somsip, I didnt go anything
[05:53] <clcto> ubuntu with lxde
[05:53] <switching> clcto hahaha ok :)
[05:53] <clcto> or just ubuntu
[05:53] <somsip> becom33: that sentence makes no sense
[05:53] <becom33> tohuw, I tried this Remastersys to backup
[05:53] <clcto> there is no difference
[05:53] <clcto> except DE
[05:54] <clcto> default DE
[05:54] <becom33> but it says cannot create back up disk because the data size is bigger than expected somthing like that
[05:54] <Guest94655> hello
[05:54] <clcto> o/
[05:55] <becom33> Guest94655, I dont think connect to IRC with ur root is a good idea
[05:55] <somsip> !root | Guest94655
[05:55] <somsip> !rootirc | Guest94655
[05:55] <clcto> sudo passwd root, then its easy to guess, because you set it
[05:56] <Guest94655> tks
[05:56] <somsip> clcto: it was a wrong factoid
[05:56] <clcto> yeah, just saying
[06:00] <switching> are the terminal commands in debian significantly different than those in ubuntu?
[06:01] <clcto> switching: no
[06:01] <switching> ok cool
[06:01] <switching> ty
[06:01] <clcto> switching: they may have more or less commands, but its all based on packages installed
[06:01] <switching> clcto that makes sense, ty
[06:09] <Nightmar_> i have to manage a server witch will have +500 accounts, there's any software around that would help me with this task? I'm planning just ACL for more permissions
[06:09] <switching> i think im deciding against debian for my old pc, now it's between lubuntu and xubuntu
[06:11] <clcto> switching: crunchbang
[06:12] <clcto> imho wm > de
[06:13] <aeon-ltd> switching: how old is old?
[06:13] <clcto> switching: or if you want to actually learn, use archlinux
[06:13] <aeon-ltd> :)
[06:14] <w30> switching, I have about a million different desktops downloaded for Ubuntu. Unity, cinniman, enlightenment, gnome, Kde; take your pick or pick'em all
[06:17] <w30> switching, lubuntu is good for small hard drives and low powered computers. xubuntu takes more room than lubuntu but not cpu intensive. Kde and Unity need higher powered cpu s ; all better than windows
[06:17] <grahamsavage> hi.. is there anyway of changing system settings using command line tools?
[06:17] <clcto> just use a tiling wm and be 1337
[06:18] <grahamsavage> specifically i'd like to turn "sticky edges" off
[06:18] <somsip> grahamsavage: which settings. Everything goes into a config file somewhere
[06:18] <clcto> somsip: some go into a db
[06:18] <switching> ty all for the replies
[06:18] <clcto> switching: try notion or ion3
[06:18] <switching> notion?
[06:19] <aeon-ltd> not ion i presume?
[06:19] <clcto> a fork of ion3, not sure if it is in repos
[06:19] <clcto> and yeah, not ion
[06:19] <aeon-ltd> i reccommend dwm, but it's a pain to recompile every config change
[06:20] <clcto> aeon-ltd: i dont like dynamic tiling, ion doesnt ever create/delete tile unless you tell it ot
[06:20] <aeon-ltd> AUR is a good reason to use arch
[06:20] <clcto> trudat
[06:21] <timonti> any c programming forum?
[06:21] <clcto> #c
[06:21] <clcto> not a forum, but w/e
[06:21] <deckard> Hello. I have a link that takes me to software from the download center. But i can not find it if i use the built in search. I should be concerned?
[06:21] <somsip> grahamsavage: try gconf-editor and the seconds reply down http://askubuntu.com/questions/109338/how-do-i-disable-mouse-magnet-on-middle-edge-with-multi-monitors
[06:24] <zero_coder> hello. its showing error:attempt to read or write outside of disk `hd0`
[06:24] <clcto> zero_coder: when you do what?
[06:24] <salmander___> Hello guys. During a lovely thunderstorm, I'm thinking since the end of hard disk would read/write faster, is there a way to tell LVM to create a volume on the outter most edges? and for the bonus question: how would it be different/similar to create LVM volume on top of a raid card?
[06:25] <zero_coder> trying to boot
[06:25] <zero_coder> clcto
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[06:26] <clcto> i believe this is english only
[06:26] <matanya> he is trying to get banned UniverSalHack
[06:26] <zero_coder> clcto  : i cant boot into my desktop now. i tried installing raring ringtail
[06:26] <matanya> clcto: he was successful
[06:26] <matanya> zero_coder: more detailed info?
[06:28] <zero_coder> matanya: i installed raring ringtaill (xubuntu) just now into my desktop. the installation went okay. but post installation, when i boot into the os , its showing errror:attempt to read or write outside of disk `hd0`
[06:28] <matanya> zero_coder: is hd0 mounted?
[06:29] <zero_coder> matanya : I dont know. newbie
[06:29] <grahamsavage> i'm getting some strange errors when i'm doing an apt-get update.. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/85ba99ba0b16d262a433  << any idea what it means .. "A error occured during the signature verfication"
[06:29] <matanya> just a sec zero_coder
[06:30] <Nightmar_> i have to manage a server witch will have +500 accounts, there's any software around that would help me with this task? I'm planning just ACL for more permissions
[06:30] <matanya> grahamsavage: that you are trying to install unsinged software
[06:30] <matanya> Nightmar_: LDAP
[06:30] <grahamsavage> matanya: i'm not thought.. as far as i know
[06:31] <Nightmar_> matanya, and how would LDAP help me with it?
[06:31] <matanya> zero_coder: what is the size of the drive?
[06:32] <matanya> Nightmar_: read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenLDAP
[06:33] <somsip> grahamsavage: worth a try? http://www.hbyconsultancy.com/blog/ubuntu-howto-fix-repository-signature-verification-issues.html
[06:33] <clcto> matanya: i dont think LDAP is what he is looking for
[06:34] <Nightmar_> matanya, but with ldap I can provide shell access?
[06:34] <Nightmar_> can i '
[06:34] <matanya> Nightmar_: you can control how can have shell
[06:34] <matanya> *who
[06:35] <aMoniker> Ok, I have pure-ftpd installed and it works
[06:35] <aMoniker> But I want to enable it for a single user account only
[06:36] <aMoniker> I don't want to have to list all exclusions in /etc/ftpusers
[06:36] <aMoniker> So, I want it to allow the users in /etc/ftpallow and disallow all others
[06:36] <aMoniker> anyone know about that?
[06:37] <Nightmar_> matanya, thanks i will read about it.
[06:37] <Nightmar_> :)
[06:39] <zero_coder> matanya : its 250 gb
[06:40] <luis_1978> Hello!
[06:40] <clcto> o/
[06:40] <luis_1978> Somebody from Barcelona?
[06:40] <ffio> will it be normal if i use ubuntu 13.04 desktop as my home server ?
[06:41] <clcto> ffio: sure, but there is ubuntu server edition
[06:42] <ffio> clcto: in that which one is should go for 13.04 or 12.04 ?
[06:43] <clcto> w/e you feel like. if you are going to dist upgrade, then 13.04, but if you want to keep one for a long time, go for the LTS
[06:43] <luis_1978> Ubuntu server starts with terminal, yes?
[06:44] <luis_1978> Then you can add the graphic X windows later
[06:44] <aeon-ltd> yes
[06:44] <aeon-ltd> it's very sparse
[06:44] <unknown_had> how I may redirect people inside my network with difference in port number
[06:44] <clcto> luis_1978: thats better anyway :)
[06:44] <unknown_had> id someone enter IP:port then redirect him to 1.1.1.1:port
[06:45] <unknown_had> and if someone come with IP:port2 then redirect o 2.2.2.2:port2
[06:45] <luis_1978> Yes but more easy to learn if you are new in Linux with graphic interface
[06:45] <luis_1978> because you can find better the information navigating the web
[06:46] <ffio> clcto: :)
[06:46] <luis_1978> I would recommend 2 methods for novice
[06:47] <clcto> luis_1978: just install links or lynx and then you can navigate the web :)
[06:47] <luis_1978> 1 you hace two computers, one with graphic interface started and the other without
[06:47] <th0r> unknown_had: it is called network address translation and is done through iptables
[06:48] <unknown_had> cool enough, thanks th0r
[06:48] <luis_1978> clcto This are navs for terminal
[06:49] <luis_1978> I'm going to test it
[06:50] <luis_1978> If you just started maybe even don't know how to install links or lynx
[06:50] <clcto> sudo apt-get install ...
[06:50] <luis_1978> In the terminal linux you are a little blind at the beggining
[06:50] <luis_1978> yeah
[06:50] <luis_1978> ;)
[06:51] <clcto> idk, just used to arch at this point
[06:51] <clcto> cli is second nature
[06:53] <luis_1978> Some times I've started a web server and I would know if its running or showing the site in the public ip
[06:53] <handuel> 'ello
[06:54] <luis_1978> see you guys thx for your company  :)
[07:04] <StarOnD> hello everyone,I tried to format an old NTFS / new NTFS disk with gparted , and for a bit it seems okay but the next day I am unable to detect them with my ubuntu/other operating systems. any tips for me ?
[07:06] <aeon-ltd> StarOnD: what did you format them to?
[07:06] <StarOnD> ext4
[07:08] <StarOnD> I formatted them using the Gparted cd, installed puppy linux,which seemed okay from inside puppy. When I tried to install ubuntu to a different partition ubuntu did not read the disk
[07:29] <krypto> Will it be possible to see kernel space process
[07:29] <matanya> krypto: you can use /proc for that
[07:33] <mastershake> hello
[07:33] <mastershake> in my software center it says dependency is not satisfiable: python3.2-minimal and wont let me install my program. how do i correct this?
[07:34] <krypto> matanya: is there any kernel space process that will not be shown in top
[07:34] <matanya> shouldn't be krypto
[07:34] <K__> #gnuhealth
[07:34] <matanya> mastershake: try in terminal sudo apt-get install python3.2-minima
[07:35] <matanya> *l
[07:35] <mastershake> cant find the package
[07:37] <guest3545> /nick freeside2
[07:37] <matanya> mastershake: try in terminal sudo apt-get install python-minimal
[07:37] <guest3545> ahem
[07:39] <mastershake> matanya: "python-minimal is already the newest version.
[07:39] <matanya> ok, so you need the 3.2 version of python, but you only have python 2.7
[07:40] <mastershake> how can i do this from the command line?
[07:40] <matanya> mastershake: try in terminal sudo apt-get install python3-minimal
[07:41] <mastershake> "python3-minimal is already the newest version.
[07:41] <vitimiti> hi o/
[07:41] <thedaydreamer> hello
[07:41] <handuel> sudo apt-get install python3.2-minimal
[07:41] <matanya> so there is a bug in the software, what are you trying to install mastershake ?
[07:41] <mastershake> xplico
[07:42] <matanya> i don't have such a package
[07:42] <handuel> The package python3.2-minimal defo exists
[07:42] <handuel> I'll check which repo it's provided by, but I'm sure it's there
[07:43] <handuel> matanya: you did add the l, which mastershake missed the first time he posted it didn't you
[07:44] <matanya> i did add it
[07:44] <mastershake> no i saw the l
[07:44] <mastershake> so this is a bug?
[07:44] <freeside> moo.
[07:45] <w30> Ubuntu Enlightenment is missing enlightenment file manager; Any way to get it?
[07:46] <mastershake> im using 13.04
[07:46] <matanya> seems so mastershake
[07:47] <yezariaely> can I tell apt-cache search to show only packages with a version number greater x ?
[07:47] <yezariaely> apt-cache search claws-mail 3\.9 didn't work though and apt-cache search claws-mail 3.9 didn't either.
[07:47] <SKYLAKE-10nm> apt-cache search packet | more packer 3.*
[07:48] <matanya> mastershake: it is not in the official repo's
[07:48] <matanya> so you will need to contact the package provider
[07:48] <walltender> What's the file permission code for init script under /etc/init.d?
[07:49] <matanya> 755 walltender
[07:49] <matanya> for most of them
[07:50] <llutz> yezariaely: you cannot, apt-cache search   only searches packagenames and -descriptions, not versions
[07:51] <yezariaely> llutz: hmm, ok. Anything possible with dpkg or other apt tools?
[07:51] <llutz> yezariaely: use apt-cache policy <packagename>  to get version-info
[07:52] <llutz> yezariaely: dpkg -l claws-mail    would show the version too
[07:55] <luyang> ???
[07:56] <luyang> 聊天平台？
[07:56] <yezariaely> llutz: thx.
[07:56] <yezariaely> Not exactly what I hoped for, but it helps.
[07:56] <llutz> !cn | luyang
[07:56] <ak5> hey guys, what does the gpg --export <key> --armor 0c713da6 do ?
[07:57] <ak5> I read the manpage for --armor option but I don't understand it?
[07:57] <silare> How do I change the Noise icon (from Elementary PPA, command is `noise`) in Ubuntu? I replaced my icons in /usr/share/icons...
[07:58] <dr_willis> icon used by a launcher can be changed by eding the apps whatever.desktop file   is one way...   ie:   gedit.desktop
[08:03] <krypto> is it possible to search for version number before installing ,tried apt-cache search package-name but its not showing package version
[08:03] <krypto> only name
[08:03] <dr_willis> !info apt-file
[08:03] <dr_willis> i do belive apt-file can do that.
[08:04] <llutz> krypto: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[08:04] <dr_willis> actually apt-get intstall foo    shows the version dosent it?  ;)
[08:04] <dr_willis> then asks if you want to install it
[08:05] <krypto> thanks llutz it worked
[08:05] <krypto> apt-get install is not showing version
[08:05] <krypto> just package name
[08:06] <llutz> apt-get install   will just install the package if onl one packagename is given and to be installed
[08:21] <OliverJAsh> on ubuntu 12, how do i change my window manager permanently (to compiz)?
[08:22] <auronandace> OliverJAsh: unity uses compiz by default
[08:22] <silare> How do I change the Nemo icon in Mint 15 (Cinnamon)? I replaced my icons in /usr/share/icons... I just want it to use a Nautilus icon (Faenza style).
[08:22] <silare> Oops.
[08:22] <silare> How do I change the Noise icon (from Elementary PPA, command is `noise`) in Ubuntu? I replaced my icons in /usr/share/icons...
[08:23] <auronandace> silare: ppas are not supported here, ask its maintainer
[08:23] <OliverJAsh> auronandace: oh really? how come i had to install it with apt-get? maybe i'm just confused.
[08:24] <OliverJAsh> auronandace: and how come i have to run `compiz --replace`?
[08:30] <thunder1212> Hi
[08:31] <thunder1212> need help..
[08:31] <handuel> OliverJAsh, you already are using compiz, if your using the default desktop, then that uses compiz as the window manager
[08:32] <DJones> thunder1212: You're in the right place then for Ubuntu support, just ask your question and hopefully somebody will be around to help
[08:32] <OliverJAsh> handuel: well i have to remove `compiz --replace` for any of the compiz stuff to work
[08:32] <thunder1212> DJones: how can i chat here from my android device?
[08:34] <DJones> thunder1212: There's quite a few IRC apps in the PLay market, I've used yaaic and I think another is AndroIRC, you should just need to install them and then set them to connect to the freenode network, people in #freenode should be able to help you sort that out
[08:35] <dr_willis> i use andchat mainly for irc on android
[08:35] <dr_willis> using it right now even ;)
[08:37] <thunder12121> how can i chat here from my android device?
[08:37] <dr_willis> thunder12121:  install an irc client on your android device. such as andchat,  yaaic androirc..
[08:38] <llutz> thunder12121: install an irc-client from play.google.com, read the documentation, configure it, come back
[08:38] <guest4129> thunder12121 you can login from http://scrollback.io/
[08:38] <guest4129> no installation required at http://scrollback.io/
[08:38] <dr_willis> how well a web irc chat app works on an android browser.. may be an issue however.
[08:39] <guest4129> try it .. works for me
[08:39] <ti_> Hi , I would like to understand  about Home Theater Hardware design/Arch.
[08:39] <dr_willis> freenode has its own web based chat also.
[08:39] <thunder12121> dr_willis: llutz can i connect with a jabber account?
[08:39] <dr_willis> ti_:   thats not really a 'ubuntu' support type question
[08:39] <llutz> thunder12121: no
[08:39] <dr_willis> jabber is not irc.
[08:39] <thunder12121> llutz: bonjour zero conf?
[08:39] <dr_willis> irc predates jabber by.. pehaps a few decades. ;)
[08:39] <thunder12121> llutz: or google account?
[08:40] <llutz> thunder12121: no
[08:40] <dr_willis> use an IRC client for IRC
[08:40] <dr_willis> some IM clients can do irc also. but best to use an IRC client
[08:40] <mselvara> Hi
[08:40] <thunder12121> dr_willis: llutz i am using irc ffrom pidgin right now
[08:40] <dr_willis> pidgin is not the best irc client out.
[08:41] <dr_willis> on a linux box i tend to use weechat or xchat for irc
[08:41] <mselvara> I would  like to understand about Hardware design/Arch level in Home Theater
[08:41] <mselvara> Can someone please help me out for better understanding
[08:41] <llutz> !ot | mselvara changing nick doesn't make it ontopic here
[08:41] <dr_willis> mselvara:  still   thats not really a 'ubuntu' support type question
[08:42] <dr_willis> and im sure theres plenty of home theatere website-guides out there
[08:42] <thunder12121> llutz: dr_willis can i use gibberbot?
[08:42] <llutz> thunder12121: install an _irc-client_ from play.google.com, read the documentation, configure it, come back
[08:42] <dr_willis> no idea what gibberbot is... you tell us.. does it support irc?
[08:43]  * dr_willis is not sure what part of  'irc client' is  vague...
[08:43] <mselvara> any idea for Home Theater processor and other hardware details?
[08:43] <dr_willis> mselvara:  hit up a search engine in your browser?
[08:43] <mselvara> I like to know Do we need  operating system for Home Theater
[08:43] <llutz> mselvara: yes you need
[08:44] <dr_willis> computers normally need an operating system. yes.
[08:44] <thunder12121> ok thanks bye!!
[08:44] <clcto> mselvara: just use an xbox one and be done with it
[08:44] <dr_willis> raspberry pi + xbmc  ;)
[08:45] <llutz> dr_willis: +1
[08:45] <dr_willis> or a plex media server + a pi and that Plex-Pi  client. ;)
[08:50] <devswap> just having my first experience of apples time machine - is there something similar for ubuntu?
[08:50] <llutz> maybe "backintime"
[08:51] <histo> !backup | devswap
[08:52] <histo> !sbackup > devswap
[08:52] <mselvara> I like to understand about Home Theater Hardware details and design
[08:53] <mselvara> Please explain about "do we need any operating system for Home Theater"?
[08:53] <llutz> !ot | mselvara
[08:54] <devswap> llutz: thanks for the link - that looks the most like timemachine. To be honest I am not that bothered as I would do it manually but from an end user perspective apples time machine makes it so easy and hence I thought it would be good if ubuntu had a similar system
[09:01] <xehanort> hello
[09:02] <mselvara> Hi
[09:03] <mselvara> Can u please help me
[09:03] <user1111> Hi
[09:03] <somsip> mselvara: that is not a specific Ubuntu support issue so you need to ask elsewhere
[09:04] <dr_willis> or you need to really really really clarify what you mean..
[09:05] <dr_willis> really.. ;)
[09:05] <somsip> dr_willis: lol - just about to do the extra 'really' myself :)
[09:05] <thunder1212> Hi
[09:05] <dr_willis> Hellos
[09:06] <mselvara> hi
[09:06] <histo> mselvara: it'd be a lot easier to help you if you stopped leaving ever 2 seconds
[09:07] <mselvara> I would like to understand the hardware design and processor details of running Home Theater
[09:07] <somsip> mselvara: that is not a specific Ubuntu support issue so you need to ask elsewhere
[09:07] <histo> mselvara: /j #hardware
[09:07] <histo> !alis | mselvara
[09:07] <dr_willis> mselvara:  or you need to really really really clarify what you mean.. and how its ubuntu related...
[09:08] <dr_willis> 'running home theater' - is a bit vague.
[09:08] <mselvara> Really I am sorry ; I am new to this chat
[09:08] <dr_willis> talk like you woudl to real people.  dont be vague. we cant read minds.
[09:09] <mselvara> How to ask my doubts to the others?
[09:09] <dr_willis> mselvara:  and whats your native language?
[09:09] <mselvara> Thz
[09:09] <mselvara> Thanks I will quit
[09:09] <histo> mselvara: well if you have a hardware question... type /join ##hardware   and ask them there.
[09:10] <mselvara> ##hardware
[09:10] <dr_willis>  '/join ##hardware'
[09:10] <dr_willis> note the use of the irc comand '/join'
[09:11] <foobarbaz> foobar
[09:12] <diverdude> is there a boost version >=1.49 for ubuntu 12.04?
[09:13] <unknown_had> hello I got 2 interfaces and one of the interface is working but another one is saying unmanaged
[09:13] <unknown_had> how I may bring that up?
[09:15] <histo> unknown_had: is the other interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:15] <unknown_had> nope
[09:15] <unknown_had> histo: if I vi this then it's just showing 1 interface eth0
[09:15] <unknown_had> I added the another one
[09:16] <unknown_had> but still it's unmanaged
[09:16] <unknown_had> I did ifconfig eth0 down and up for eth0 and 1
[09:16] <histo> unknown_had: paste your /etc/network/interfaces and the output of ifconfig
[09:16] <unknown_had> respectively
[09:16] <unknown_had> just a sec
[09:16] <histo> unknown_had: Is this a desktop system where you are using network manager?
[09:16] <histo> !paste | unknown_had
[09:17] <diverdude> is there a boost version >=1.49 for ubuntu 12.04? How can i get newer version of boost? Currently i have 1.46.1
[09:17] <histo> diverdude: ppa?
[09:18] <matanya> diverdude: compile from source?
[09:18] <histo> diverdude: or build it yourself from source and use something like checkinstall to make a deb.
[09:19] <ak5> does anyone know why I don't get mkvirtualenv in byobu?
[09:19] <ak5> it's not in my path or something...
[09:19] <unknown_had> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5712821/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/5712822/
[09:19] <unknown_had> 1st one is vi /etc/network/interfaces and another one is ifconfig
[09:20] <histo> unknown_had: both interfaces are up. So i'm not sure what you are talking about unmanaged?
[09:20] <unknown_had> it's showing unmanaged in my network-manager
[09:21] <unknown_had> and I am not be able to change IP via network-manager
[09:21] <unknown_had> histo: ^
[09:21] <unknown_had> and if you going to take a close look then I have provided different IP for both of the interfaces
[09:21] <somsip> ak5: is it installed at all? locate mkvirtualenv migth help
[09:21] <unknown_had> but it's not showing that in ifconfig output
[09:21] <histo> unknown_had: because the interfaces are defined in /etc/network/interfaces network manager isn't managing them
[09:22] <unknown_had> histo: ok so how come I may make network manager to manage all this and why my ifconfig is not showing the proper result?
[09:23] <histo> unknown_had: remove the eth0 and eth1 from /etc/network/interfaces and let network manager do the rest
[09:23] <histo> unknown_had: what is ifconfig doing wrong?
[09:24] <wadie> I have an internet connection problem
[09:24] <unknown_had> histo: that would be so nice of you if you may provide the new config for /etc/network/interfaces
[09:24] <wadie> I can't load any site even on any browser
[09:24] <clcto> !ask | wadie
[09:24] <unknown_had> histo: for eth0 it's saying nothing
[09:24] <clcto> wadie: ifconfig gives you what?
[09:24] <wadie> how do I use that
[09:25] <unknown_had> wadie: fo to terminal and type ifconfig
[09:25] <ak5> somsip: I installed the python-virtualenv and virtualenvwrapper packages and can run mkvirtualenv outside of byobu
[09:25] <unknown_had> s/fo/go
[09:25] <wadie> command not found
[09:25] <wadie> oh used sudo
[09:25] <wadie> which line do you need
[09:25] <histo> unknown_had: sudo ifup eth0
[09:26] <clcto> wadie: do any of them have a default gateway
[09:26] <wadie> no
[09:26] <somsip> ak5: try this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13855463/bash-mkvirtualenv-command-not-found
[09:26] <clcto> wadie: wireless or wired?
[09:27] <unknown_had> histo: cool enough now this is showing the result in ifconfig
[09:27] <unknown_had> :)
[09:27] <wadie> this one is wired
[09:27] <unknown_had> histo: how i may use my network manager to config all this?
[09:27] <unknown_had> as my network manager is still sucking
[09:27] <histo> unknown_had: You may have to remove the entries for eth0 and eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces then just click away on network manager
[09:28] <histo> unknown_had: or use nmcli   in the console
[09:28] <unknown_had> ok
[09:28] <clcto> wadie: hmm, dhcpcd eth0 ?
[09:28] <histo> wadie: what is the output of lsb_release -a  ?
[09:29] <wadie> No LSB modules are available.
[09:29] <histo> wadie: cat /etc/issue
[09:29] <unknown_had> histo: if posisble then please provide me the default config of /etc/network/interfaces so that I may change that
[09:29] <wadie> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[09:30] <unknown_had> As I am not sure weather to keep that as DHCP or static
[09:30] <histo> unknown_had: just sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.backup   edit /etc/network/interfaces and remove the eth0 and eth1 from the auto line  and comment out the eth0 and eth1 sections with #
[09:31] <histo> unknown_had: sudo service networking restart  after you are done.
[09:31] <unknown_had> ok
[09:31] <histo> unknown_had: then configure with network manager
[09:31] <unknown_had> thnx
[09:32] <histo> wadie: ifconfig  should be there
[09:32] <wadie> it's there
[09:32] <wadie> I used sudo ifconfig
[09:32] <wadie> I got eth0 and lo
[09:32] <sianhulo> does anyone knows an alternative to sikuli?(fot automating gui tasks)
[09:32] <histo> wadie: does it show that eth0 has an IP address?
[09:33] <histo> sianhulo: have you searched the software center?
[09:33] <wadie>  inet addr:192.168.1.100
[09:33] <handuel> I accidently changed the default highlighter for a filetype in gedit to a partially installed one that doesn't work, I now can't open any files of that type without it crashing
[09:33] <handuel> How do I change back the default without using gedit?
[09:33] <dr_willis> 'highliter' ?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> sianhulo: http://qualityhour.wordpress.com/2012/07/16/xpresser-easy-visual-tests-with-python/
[09:34] <sianhulo> histo, I've done, but the term for searching aren't specific, so, even though I haven't found any there might be something
[09:34] <dr_willis> right click on one of the files. and change the default app, or i think theres a system settings -> defaults applications
[09:34] <handuel> dr_willis: the syntax highlighter within gedit
[09:34] <sianhulo> ActionParsnip, thanks
[09:34] <handuel> I want to edit the files within gedit, however gedit is using a syntax highlighter that causes it to crash
[09:35] <dr_willis> handuel:  so you want to reset gedits settings back to defaults
[09:35] <handuel> That would sort it yes
[09:35] <dr_willis> that would be a file in .config/somewhere i imagine
[09:35] <thunder1212> How can we block pendrive or can we disable usb ports in 12.04
[09:35] <handuel> Ah I was looking in dconf and gconf, I'll go and have a look in .config
[09:35] <histo> handuel: look for ~/.config/gedit or ~/.gedit
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> sianhulo: simple websearching "sikuli alternative"
[09:35] <histo> wadie: ping 8.8.8.8  does it respond?
[09:36] <dr_willis> thunder1212:  a search on  askubuntu.com  may show some ways
[09:36] <histo> thunder1212: you can disable automount
[09:36] <wadie> histo: yes it does
[09:36] <histo> wadie: okay does ping google.com  work?
[09:36] <sianhulo> ActionParsnip, I used alternativeto and didn't find anything, but again, thanks
[09:36] <llutz> thunder1212: remove your users from plugdev-group or blacklist or rename usb-storage
[09:36] <wadie> histo: yea seems like it
[09:37] <ak5> somsip: none of those files exist :?/
[09:37] <histo> wadie: then what is the issue?
[09:37] <unknown_had> histo: this is confusing now it's showing lo0 name for both of the interfaces
[09:37] <unknown_had> :(
[09:38] <histo> unknown_had: what is showing that?
[09:38] <somsip> ak5: do you run byobu after you installed or was it running before you installed?
[09:38] <wadie> I really don't know. as you can see I'm also able to chat here normally,but neither on chrome nor on firefox any website is loading. I mean I get the title on the tab and it keeps loading forever and ever.. however on my other computer which is on wireless and has win7 works just fine.
[09:38] <wadie> if I give it enough it the site might load but without any images
[09:39] <ak5> somsip: I tried exiting out of byobu, but I installed those packages from within byobu
[09:39] <histo> wadie: did you mess with /etc/nsswitch.conf  at all?
[09:39] <wadie> don't think so
[09:39] <thunder1212> I want to block access for only a particular user from accessing usb ports
[09:39] <wadie> I never heard of it
[09:39] <somsip> ak5: running byobu on server or on local pc?
[09:39] <handuel> Reset everything I can, it still crashes when I open this paticular filetype
[09:39] <llutz> thunder1212: remove your user from plugdev-group
[09:40] <ak5> somsip: server
[09:40] <ak5> 12.04 if that matters
[09:40] <somsip> ak5: so you ssh to the server, connect to byobu, install...what exactly...and then you can't access the sotware you've just installed?
[09:40] <wadie> histo: hmm well for some reason facebook loads just fine lol
[09:41] <matanya> wadie: that sounds like a routing issue
[09:41] <wadie> what's that
[09:41] <matanya> try traceroute on the failing site
[09:41] <ak5> somsip: yeah, but if I get out of byobu it works, when I launch byobu again it works. I am trying to use any of the commands from 'virtualenvwrapper' package
[09:41] <matanya> what site is not accessible for you wadie ?
[09:41] <wadie> pretty much all the sites
[09:42] <wadie> facebook for some reason is the only site that loads fine
[09:42] <handuel> this is the error I'm getting from the terminal: GtkSourceView:ERROR:gtksourcecontextengine.c:5487:update_syntax: assertion failed: (state->context != NULL)
[09:42] <matanya> wikipedia words for you wadie ?
[09:42] <matanya> *works
[09:42] <wadie> hmm yep
[09:42] <somsip> ak5: sounds like something has not exported in a way that byobu is able to pick it up. I've used virtualenv but no mkvirtualenv so I'm running out of ideas
[09:42] <matanya> wadie: yahoo?
[09:42] <histo> thunder1212: gpasswd -d group user
[09:42] <wadie> well that too
[09:42] <matanya> one that doesn't? wadie
[09:42] <wadie> google.com
[09:42] <wadie> pornhub
[09:43] <wadie> need I say more ?
[09:43] <ak5> somsip: on a related note, you would like virtualenvwrapper
[09:43] <wadie> youtube and more
[09:43] <ak5> if you use virtualenv
[09:43] <matanya> i was afraid so
[09:43] <matanya> wadie: are you in a work place?
[09:43] <wadie> no I'm at home
[09:44] <llutz> wadie: for a test:  echo  "nameserver 8.8.8.8"  | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf                   do the sites load then?
[09:44] <ak5> wadie: whats the output of `cat /etc/resolv.conf` and `dig google.com`
[09:44] <matanya> and at your spare time : traceroute google.com
[09:45] <wadie> ak5: nameserver: command not found
[09:45] <wadie> llutz: it echoed nameserver 8.8.8.8
[09:45] <ak5> wadie: ... ou forgot the echo and you men the other guy
[09:45] <sandip> how is new debian 7 ?
[09:45] <llutz> sandip:  /j #debian
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> sandip  wrong channel
[09:46] <wadie> ak5: nameserver: command not found
[09:46] <ak5> wadie: ..............................
[09:46] <ak5> wadie: copy and paste my next message
[09:46] <wadie> I'm using your command
[09:46] <ak5> now you are not
[09:46] <stephanmg> hi. can someone tell me what to do with that error message: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:46] <wadie> `cat /etc/resolv.conf` and `dig google.com`
[09:46] <ak5> /s/w//
[09:46] <llutz> wadie:  echo  "nameserver 8.8.8.8"  | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf            <- copy/paste that, its one command
[09:46] <ak5> oh, don't use the ``
[09:47] <ak5> :/
[09:47] <ak5> I guess thats non-obvious
[09:47] <wadie> llutz: nameserver 8.8.8.8
[09:47] <llutz> wadie: yes, do the sites load now if you open your browser
[09:48] <wadie> nah still exactly the same
[09:50] <Davespice> good morning folks o/
[09:51] <ak5> wadie: what browser?
[09:51] <wadie> firefox and chrome
[09:52] <ak5> wadie: can you type this in your terminal: dig google.com
[09:52] <Davespice> just a quick one, has anyone used Ubuntu Server on an Intel NUC yet? Are there any issues with linux drivers etc?
[09:52] <wadie> ok which line do you need from the output
[09:52] <wadie> ;; Query time: 97 msec
[09:52] <wadie> ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
[09:52] <wadie> ;; WHEN: Wed May 29 12:52:18 2013
[09:52] <wadie> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 204
[09:52] <FloodBot1> wadie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:53] <wadie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5712875/
[09:53] <stephanmg> sorry for the diconnect: http://pastebin.com/JwCCFK83
[09:54] <stephanmg> can someone tell me anything about that?
[09:54] <llutz> wadie: you haven't issued the command above correctly, still using 127.0.0.1 as nameserver
[09:54] <wadie> sorry. which command ?
[09:54] <llutz> wadie:  echo  "nameserver 8.8.8.8"  | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf         this
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> Davespice  ask in #ubuntu-server
[09:54] <Davespice> never mind, found some stuff on askubuntu.com, cheers o/
[09:55] <wadie> this is what I've done
[09:55] <wadie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5712881/
[09:56] <matanya> try to surf now wadie
[09:56] <llutz> wadie: grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf
[09:56] <ak5> wadie: why are you running your own dns server?
[09:56] <sn1ffer> hey guys, I have a dependancy issue with my apt on 12.04 precise, apt-get upgrade fails, and "apt-get -f install" fails as well. http://pastebin.com/axNvH3m3 any pointers would be much appreciated
[09:56] <llutz> ak5: default since 12.04/11.10
[09:57] <wadie> ask5: no idea
[09:57] <ak5> really?????
[09:57] <ak5> jesus h. christ thats stupid
[09:57] <ak5> 12.04 server doesn't have it
[09:57] <llutz> ak5:caching dnsmasq ...
[09:57] <Kraln-____> I have a weird problem with lp. If I type it on the command line, it works. if I put it in a shell script and call it from the command line, it works. if I call it from python, it claims no input files or something
[09:57] <wadie> llutz: done it
[09:57] <llutz> wadie: the output is?
[09:57] <wadie> nameserver 8.8.8.8
[09:58] <wadie> nameserver is in red
[09:58] <ak5> I am not sure I agree with having that by default
[09:58] <ak5> but.. ok good to know
[09:58] <wadie> ok now if I dig google.com the server is 8.8.8.8
[09:58] <matanya> sn1ffer: try sudo apt-get clean
[09:59] <matanya> try to surf wadie
[09:59] <wadie> ok now i get This webpage is not available
[09:59] <wadie> fast
[09:59] <ak5> wadie: do you know whata vpn is and if so do you use one
[10:00] <matanya> wadie: can you traceroute google.com ?
[10:00] <wadie> I know what a vpn is and I don't use one.
[10:00] <ak5> k
[10:00] <sn1ffer> matanya: no change
[10:01] <matanya> sn1ffer: remove from  /var/lib/dpkg/info/ the files:
[10:01] <wadie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5712902/
[10:02] <matanya> linux-image-3.2.0-39-generic.*    linux-generic.*    initramfs-tools.*
[10:02] <matanya> then try again
[10:03] <matanya> wadie: can you ping google.com ?
[10:03] <wadie> matanya: yes
[10:04] <matanya> what is the output?
[10:04] <clcto> when is LoL getting a linux client :(
[10:05] <wadie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5712907/
[10:05] <wylde_child> i hope so too!
[10:05] <ak5> clcto: I hear it runs well on wine
[10:05] <wylde_child> with a penguin champ :P
[10:05] <wylde_child> i doesnt at all, at least i can't get it running
[10:06] <clcto> it doesnt run well on my laptop in windows, so wine could only make it worse
[10:07] <raincode> can give me paradigm about "/etc" folder?, what for it?
[10:07] <clcto> i mean HoN has one, come on riot but sry #ot
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> what's LoL?
[10:07] <clcto> league of legends
[10:07] <wylde_child> a dota kinda game
[10:08] <matanya> wadie: try : sudo traceroute -I google.com
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> and HoN?
[10:08] <clcto> heroes of newerth
[10:08] <wylde_child> same^^
[10:08] <matanya> raincode: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> well, i'm dmc (drinking ly coffee)
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> my*
[10:09] <raincode> ok sir
[10:09] <sn1ffer> matanya: no change after moving those files from /var/lib/dpkg/info/ to somewhere else and rerunning apt-get clean; apt-get upgrade and apt-get -f install again
[10:09] <clcto> MonkeyDust: well get with the times and play the most popular game in the world
[10:09] <wadie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5712917/
[10:09] <llutz> tla ftw ...
[10:10] <matanya> wadie: תרים טלפון לבזק בינלאומי
[10:10] <wadie> matanya: it's working fine on my other pc. I don't think it's related to the isp
[10:11] <matanya> wadie: are you using ubuntu desktop?
[10:11] <wadie> yes
[10:11] <raincode> sir, in ubuntu, can we edit "file browser" source code ,and compile it?(just for own)
[10:12] <clcto> raincode: yes, it is called nautilus go get the src
[10:12] <matanya> raincode: yes.
[10:12] <clcto> or just use terminal and mc
[10:12] <llutz> raincode: apt-get source nautilus; sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus     then go ahead
[10:12] <raincode> nautilius action configuration?
[10:13] <raincode> clcto: mc then what we to do?
[10:13] <matanya> wadie: did you configure the network yourself?
[10:13] <clcto> mc is midnightcommander, just a terminal file browser
[10:13] <wadie> yes. I didn't think anything special was required
[10:14] <matanya> raincode: mc is a file browser in the shell
[10:14] <matanya> can you give a screenshot of your config wadie ?
[10:14] <wadie> where would that be
[10:15] <matanya> can i pm you wadie ?
[10:15] <wadie> sure
[10:16] <raincode> sir,apt-get source nautilus(what for?); sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus (what for?) thx.
[10:16] <raincode> mc?ok i will try it?, about mc source code,can we edit it for own ?
[10:17] <matanya> raincode: apt-get source nautilus - to get the source of the file browser
[10:17] <llutz> raincode: you asked about recopiling the file-browser (nautilus), those commands will get the sources you need and the needed dependencies
[10:17] <matanya> raincode:  sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus - to build it
[10:17] <llutz> matanya: no, to pull the packages it depends on
[10:17] <llutz> (it needs to build)
[10:18] <raincode> if i have receive source from apy-get source nautilius, where we see it?(in screen or in a file?)
[10:18] <matanya> llutz: i missed half a sentence somehow - it was : packages it depends on to build it
[10:18] <llutz> raincode: in the presen dir
[10:20] <raincode> presen dir?(if we cd /root/test/      and if when we in /root/test/  then type apt-get source nautilius, so after that we found source in current cd command?)
[10:21] <llutz> raincode: it will be downloaded to the dir you are currently in (present work dir, pwd)
[10:22] <tokern3> hey
[10:22] <llutz> raincode: and you should do that as root
[10:22] <llutz> shouldn't *
[10:23] <clcto> tokern3: hi
[10:24] <raincode> ok sir, after i founded it in present work dir,and then we have edit,how to compile it?
[10:24] <clcto> usually just make
[10:24] <KyouReeus4nfo> running last command shows root entries, does it mean I am rooted? or is it because of booting in recovery mode?
[10:24] <clcto> why are you in /root though?
[10:25] <llutz> !compile > raincode
[10:25] <llutz> !checkinstall > raincode
[10:25] <James_m> Hi
[10:25] <James_m> how can I disable a start-up KDE sound in Ubuntu 12?
[10:25] <clcto> llutz: why do you always private message? post it here so others can gain information
[10:28] <raincode> ok, sir. i will try it, but apt-get source "own target application"  <[10:28] <clcto> raincode: yes
[10:30] <raincode> but,why it happend?-->E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_lucid_main_source_Sources - open (2: No such file or directory)
[10:30] <llutz> clcto: i usually do, but these factoids imo aren't interesting for "the masses"
[10:30] <clcto> why
[10:30] <clcto> !compile
[10:31] <raincode> no sir, i type: apt-get source "our target app", so then show:E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_lucid_main_source_Sources - open (2: No such file or directory)
[10:32] <raincode> and i don't get source.
[10:32] <TaylerKing> @raincode: what is wrong
[10:33] <TaylerKing> Raincode, are you having trouble installing something?
[10:34] <raincode> taylerking:not.,just to get source--> apt-get source nautilus
[10:34] <raincode> but not success
[10:34] <Glink> Hi
[10:34] <llutz> raincode: have you enables the deb-src in your sources.list at all? grep deb-src /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}*
[10:35] <llutz> enabled*
[10:35] <tokern3> hey
[10:35] <raincode> ok sir, i will try it now
[10:37] <raincode> yes, sir ,it have been enable, but can't to do it
[10:37] <llutz> raincode: sudo apt-get update
[10:37] <llutz> raincode: apt-get source nautilus
[10:37] <Glink> I installed ubuntu via minimal cd, and installed MATE(to test it) and I would like to change my language adn regional settings but I don't know the name of the package(of the language and regional chooser) to install it, can anyone help me?
[10:38] <Melissa-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2149577&p=12668402#post12668402
[10:39] <raincode> now, it is processing
[10:40] <Glink> or at least point me in some direction
[10:40] <Glink> thanks in advance :)
[10:41] <vetwangcn> 有用汉语的吗
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> !locale | Glink
[10:41] <raincode> now it is processing in update.
[10:42] <raincode> sir, in apt-get, what diferent between update and upgrade?
[10:42] <llutz> raincode:you want to read "man apt-get"
[10:42] <llutz> raincode: udate just updates the packageinformation
[10:44] <llutz> gtg
[10:45] <raincode> so, after update we just can see all information  in online repository?
[10:45] <raincode> so, after update we just can see all information about all packages  in online repository?
[10:46] <knight232> Hello, I've installed zoneminder (webcam software) on Ubuntu, during the installation I'd the option to set up a email server for alerts but I just pressed next, now zoneminder working great but I would like to set up the email server, any idea how to do so?
[10:50] <raincode> is it True that all package information in synaptic packages manager is come from apt-get update?
[10:50] <Ben64> yep
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> Glink  system settings > language support
[10:52] <Kraln> where do I go to change the setup of the vts
[10:52] <diverdude> is there a boost version >=1.49 for ubuntu 12.04? How can i get newer version of boost? Currently i have 1.46.1
[10:53] <HasArrived> Kniğht32 interesting in your zone minder experiences. Do you install via ubuntu repositories?
[10:53] <Dr_willis> if thats whats in the repos. thats basically is the version in 12.04, unless you find a ppa, or use source to get a newer one diverdude
[10:54] <Kraln> I want to change th default terminal efinitions
[10:54] <Dr_willis> Kraln,  change what exactly?
[10:54] <Kraln> vt1 from an interactive login shell to a kiosk
[10:54] <Dr_willis> Kraln,  that woule be in /etc/init/tty1.conf  i think.
[10:54] <Kraln> I don't see an inittab
[10:54] <Glink> MonkeyDust nop thers no such thing
[10:55] <Kraln> ah, there they are
[10:55] <Dr_willis> there is no inittab
[10:55] <Dr_willis> !inittab
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> Glink  what ubuntu version?
[10:55] <Glink> 12.04
[10:55] <Glink> minimal cd
[10:55] <diverdude> Dr_willis: mmm i found this ppa https://launchpad.net/~mapnik/+archive/boost
[10:55] <diverdude> Dr_willis: i wonder if its any good
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> diverdude  and it's not supported, so if it's no good and ruins your system, you're on your own
[10:57] <Dr_willis> !info boost
[10:57] <Dr_willis> I have no idea what 'boost' even is ;)
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> i have preload instaled, prelink activated and my temo files moved to RAM, pretty fast system here :)
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> temp*
[10:58] <Dr_willis> put your swap on a ram disk. ;P
[10:58] <diverdude> mmmm when i do apt-get upgrade i get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5713033/
[10:59] <diverdude> how do i install those packs  that are kept back for some reason
[11:00] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade      perhaps?
[11:00] <lasers> diverdude: "man apt-get" and read up on "upgrade" and "dist-upgrade"
[11:00] <diverdude> Dr_willis: i tried that already
[11:01]  * inflex gives up on trying to get linux to run on this HP Touchsmart 600 nVidia-chipset box :(
[11:01] <inflex> Even tried 12.10, no luck.  Tried Nouveau, and nVidia propriatory, no luck.  Only thing that works is the failsafe/vesa/fb mode
[11:02] <diverdude> inflex: ohhh nvidia problems in ubuntu is a no win :/ been there, failed that
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> inflex  nvidia does not like linux
[11:04] <Dr_willis> depends on your chipset. ;)
[11:04] <Dr_willis> all the video card companies - should get their act together..
[11:05] <Quix86> intel has their act together what are you talking about
[11:05] <Dr_willis> ive seen people in here with issues with some intel chipsets also.
[11:05] <Quix86> #MasterRace #FreeAsInFreedom
[11:05] <inflex> GT216 / GT230M
[11:06] <Glink> MonkeyDust found it thanks any way :)
[11:06] <inflex> It sort of gets started but then leaves the whole thing in a mess - http://dxp.me/i/hp600.jpg
[11:06] <inflex> ja, I've found in general though intel "Just works"
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> Glink  how did you find it? for future refernce...
[11:06] <inflex> ( though sometimes getting the 3D stuff going is a bit of a bother )
[11:07] <diverdude> Mister Linus Thorvaldsen stated it very nicely in a talk in Finland :) What he said was the following: "Fuck you Nvidia" :)
[11:08] <Ben64> !language | diverdude
[11:08] <diverdude> Ben64: i didnt say it...Linus did
[11:08] <AGX9> hey
[11:08] <Ben64> you just said it
[11:08] <Glink> I wanted the language-selector-gnome package, I didn't know the full name, so I installed the Software center and searched there -.-' (simple but sometimes the brain just don't want to work) sorry for the trouble :)
[11:08] <gordonjcp> diverdude: and yet NVidia is the only graphics card supported properly in Linux
[11:08] <inflex> thing is, even the open-source nouveau driver is doing the same thing.  So I'm not sure what's going on there
[11:08] <diverdude> Ben64: that was just a quote
[11:08] <Ben64> quoting it is still saying it, don't be dense
[11:08] <diverdude> gordonjcp: ehhhh what are you talking about?
[11:09] <AGX9> need some help with file-roller non english char like accents are scrambled anyone can help (using squeeze) does the same too
[11:09] <diverdude> gordonjcp: nvidia optimus card are pretty rotten in linux
[11:09] <Dr_willis> im not really impressed with the whole Optmimus deal.
[11:10] <diverdude> Ben64: no, a quote is just a quote.,...No responsibility can be taken for a quote on less its wrongly quoted....and my quote was pretty much what he sais
[11:10] <diverdude> siad
[11:10] <diverdude> said
[11:10] <AGX9> anyone can help me out with file-roller please?
[11:10] <Dr_willis> its still improper language.
[11:10] <Dr_willis> for this channel.
[11:10] <Ben64> there are rules about language here, you still said a word that is not allowed, it's not rocket surgery
[11:10] <gordonjcp> !ask | AGX9
[11:11] <diverdude> Dr_willis: tell that to mister linus :)
[11:11] <AGX9> need some help with file-roller non english char like accents are scrambled anyone can help (using squeeze) does the same too
[11:11] <Dr_willis> diverdude,  hes not here.. You are.. and you know better.
[11:11] <Dr_willis> plus its a rather stupid 'quote'
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> AGX9  debian squeeze?
[11:11] <AGX9> nop ubuntu squeeze is a program used by xfce
[11:11] <AGX9> like file-roller
[11:12] <gordonjcp> AGX9: support for non-ASCII filenames in zip files is patchy at best
[11:12] <AGX9> gordonjcp: i have various zip files can be decompressed correctly with file names perfect on windows and even on ios
[11:12] <AGX9> not on ubuntu
[11:13] <AGX9> using unzip command doesn t work either
[11:13] <yousaf> hi al
[11:13] <yousaf> all*
[11:14] <diverdude> i apologize for my inappropriate quote although its still just a quote :)
[11:14] <mselvara> Hi
[11:23] <vramana> I am having problems installing http://www.rulequest.com/Personal/c4.5r8.tar.gz
[11:25] <DJones> !details | vramana
[11:25] <Dr_willis> !compile | vramana
[11:26] <matanya> Dr_willis: it isn't in the repo's
[11:26] <Dr_willis> so?
[11:26] <matanya> just saying
[11:31] <vramana> DJones:  ubottu  Dr_willis http://pastebin.com/DWjBRRWf This is the output of make all
[11:31] <tokern3> hey
[11:32] <Dr_willis> looks like some bad codeing to me.
[11:34] <Dr_willis> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/977233/warning-incompatible-implicit-declaration-of-built-in-function-xyz
[11:35] <Dr_willis> and    http://cboard.cprogramming.com/linux-programming/95528-incompatible-implicit-declaration-built-function-%91exit%92.html
[11:42] <inflex> Well, guess I'll just load this machine up with Win7 and sell it off
[11:44] <inflex> ( bit upset about that, been trying to fix it for ~18 months now - finally solved the BGA reflow problem... and then it doesn't even run in Linux properly *laugh* *sigh* ).  Well, always another machine to try :)
[11:45] <matanya> inflex: what machine?
[11:47] <Katafalk_> is there some easy way to create a .deb package from a pip installation ?
[11:49] <Guest62662> Hi, I wonder in the desktop app Transmission, there is a possibility to run a bash script when download is finished. My questions is, is there any script download page somewhere? I can write basic things in bash myself, but I am not good at it. I would like to remove torrent after 15 minutes its finished, and automaticly put the file into new folders depending on directory name and file typ. Like if its video, it should goto /home/
[11:49] <Guest62662> user/Video/TrailerGenre/Torrentdata here, or ubuntu like /home/user/Downloads/Iso/data
[11:50] <tokern3> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2149577&p=12668402#post12668402
[11:50] <tokern3> what the problem is?
[11:50] <tokern3> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2149577&p=12668402#post12668402
[11:50] <tokern3> what the problem is?
[11:54] <danial> hi
[11:57] <brotherBox> Hello people. I am trying to cat some files, with the name consisting of numbers, in an incrementing fashion.  sort etc print the filenames starting with 10 and that is annoying. Any help?
[11:59] <matanya> cat name-*|sort whatever| xargs  grep -v filename-1digit
[11:59] <Guest62662> anyone? :)
[12:00] <brotherBox> matanya, sort whatever?
[12:01] <matanya> brotherBox: what do you want to sort?
[12:01] <somsip> Guest62662: there is a 'Call script when the torrent is completed' so it looks possible
[12:02] <brotherBox> matanya, look at this snippet: http://pastebin.com/nQY0tH8Y
[12:02] <schnuffle> Guest62662: inotify gives you the possibility to observe changes in the file system
[12:02] <brotherBox> A backup of deja-dup/duplicity messed up and I have to restore it manually. No big deal in general
[12:03] <brotherBox> But I'd like to extract the files in order. But as you see, sort sees the vol1000 file as the first one
[12:03] <histo> brotherBox: what's the problem it looks like it's sorting properly
[12:03] <matanya> 1000<1001
[12:03] <brotherBox> But 1 < 1000, and I want it to show 1 as the first one.
[12:04] <Guest62662> somsip: Yes I know, I just do not understand HOW to make the script. Best would be if there is something out there already.
[12:04] <histo> brotherBox: ls -t
[12:04] <histo> brotherBox: or -c
[12:04] <Guest62662> schnuffle: Like, if appear new folder in /home/user I can decide if I want to move it or not? But I guess I cannot do it while torrent is active?
[12:05] <histo> brotherBox: actually ls -v would probably sort it jsut fine for you.
[12:05] <somsip> Guest62662: Two starters https://forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?t=10364 https://trac.transmissionbt.com/browser/trunk/extras/send-email-when-torrent-done.sh
[12:05] <Guest62662> schnuffle: I am thinkin like InternetDownloadManager, which automaticly group downloads depending on mime-type.
[12:05] <schnuffle> Guest62662: http://pyinotify.sourceforge.net/#Brief_Tutorial gives you some explanation it's using python
[12:05] <brotherBox> histo, neither of those have the desired effect. -t only reverses the output (which is actually less useful than what I already have) and -c is only a combination of lt
[12:06] <Guest62662> somsip: Thanks :)
[12:06] <histo> brotherBox: don't pipe the output to sort... just use ls -v
[12:06] <brotherBox> histo, you are right. -v is wonderful
[12:06] <histo> brotherBox: that enables version numbering sorting within the name
[12:07] <schnuffle> Guest62662: http://blog.lagentz.com/general/automate-your-shell-scripts-using-inotify-and-inotifywait/
[12:07] <histo> brotherBox: man ls | grep sort
[12:07] <brotherBox> Yep, thats the way I want it: http://pastebin.com/Y2kT7q2C
[12:07] <brotherBox> Thanks a lot
[12:07] <kenzo450D> hi everyone, if i try to install openjdk-7-jre-headless, i get this error and the package doesn't get installed,
[12:07] <kenzo450D> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openjdk-7-jre-headless_7u21-2.3.9-1ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):  subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2
[12:07] <Guest62662> somsip: Also it would be awesome to be able to stream video while downloading it. I miss that from uTorrent, even though it was not particularly good.
[12:08] <kenzo450D> how do i fix it?
[12:08] <kenzo450D> I even tried apt-get -f install but with the same result.
[12:08] <somsip> Guest62662: not one we can help you with here
[12:08] <schnuffle> kenzo450D: have you updated your repo before installing?
[12:09] <kenzo450D> schnuffle: updated my repo as in?
[12:09] <schnuffle> kenzo450D: as in sudo aptitude update
[12:09] <Guest62662> somsip: I know KTorrent has on KDE. Oh maybe I should try it out. I just do not like to install QT wrappers. But Ubuntu will be rewritten in QT later on, right?
[12:09] <kenzo450D> schnuffle: no, that I didn't :(
[12:10] <schnuffle> kenzo450D: try that, could be that there's a new update and so installing the version in your repo isn't existing anymore
[12:10] <brotherBox> histo, is there any way to "extend" that into a regular expression?
[12:10] <madghost|2> hi all
[12:11] <kenzo450D> schnuffle: doing that. :) but got this error there
[12:11] <kenzo450D> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/awstools-dev/awstools/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-i386/Packages: 404  Not Found E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. E: Couldn't rebuild package cache
[12:11] <brotherBox> Something like cat [1-5] ? It never works for numbers over 9 here
[12:11] <madghost|2> where I can find linux-kernel in Ubuntu after apt-get install linux-kernel ?
[12:11] <brotherBox> /boot I'd say
[12:11] <somsip> Guest62662: no idea about the rewrite in QT. Maybe you're confusing the distro (ubuntu) for the default window manager (unity)
[12:12] <madghost|2> where I can have to make config after install the linux-kernel?
[12:12] <histo> brotherBox: what is it you are ultimately trying to do with the files?
[12:12] <schnuffle> kenzo450D:  so you have installed a PPA which doesn'T exist anymore
[12:13] <schnuffle> kenzo450D: the latest release for that PPA is quantal
[12:13] <kenzo450D> schnuffle: that I do not know much of, all that I did was to install perl DBI, after this I get these errors.
[12:13] <brotherBox> histo, this is for a slightly different, but related purpose. The effect of un-taring the difftar files is, that I have a bunch of numbered files which, when cat'd in the right order (duh) render the "original" file.
[12:14] <madghost|2> I've found it ) /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:15] <brotherBox> I have not found out how to manage that with ls -v as ls -v | cat only prints the filenames and ls -v | cat * cat's the files in the "wrong" order.
[12:15] <schnuffle> kenzo450D: did you do a distupgrade to raring?
[12:15] <histo> brotherBox: so why not use find whatever -exec do blah +
[12:15] <KyouReeus4nfo> Wireshark is not upgraded yet. I tried backports.
[12:16] <kenzo450D> schnuffle: I do not remember exactly, but probably I did it, to install some packages in raring.
[12:16] <kenzo450D> schnuffle: *from raring.
[12:16] <brotherBox> histo, because I dont see how find sorts the files, beginning at 1/the smallest number
[12:16] <brotherBox> A short test with the syntax you suggested shows that it doesnt sort the files.
[12:16] <Guest62662> somsip: No I am not.  I heard from devs saying they will abandon Wayland and Unity. Rewrite a new window handler, dump GTK and Unity completly as favor for QT framework. QUite ironic though, because they kicked out Kubuntu from Canoncial officially and then they want to make QT instead of using KDE which already is QT :P
[12:17] <gordonjcp> Guest62662: but KDE is horrible
[12:17] <histo> brotherBox: But I don't believe you can ls -v * | xargs untar
[12:17] <somsip> Guest62662: still no idea, and something probably more suited to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:17] <schnuffle> kenzo450D: hmm, what to do, first I would clean up my repo lists
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> gordonjcp  some people do prefer KDE
[12:18] <histo> brotherBox: I would ask in #bash  they would be able to tell you the best way
[12:18] <brotherBox> Alright, thanks anyway!
[12:19] <Guest62662> gordonjcp: Why? I am not defending anyone, I am just curious? Why not cooperate with KDE and make it better?
[12:20] <schnuffle> Guest62662: maybe the same reason they drop wayland a start building there own
[12:20] <schnuffle> s/a/and/
[12:20] <cfhowlett> Guest62662, cuz it's offtopic in the support channel.  such debate is best done in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:21] <kenzo450D> schnuffle: okay, just did apt-get autoclean, i tried to do localepurge, but then again I have to install it, and I cannot install anything right now.
[12:21] <Guest62662> cfhowlett: Will do
[12:21] <inflex> matanya: it's a HP Touchsmart 600-1000 unit.
[12:22] <schnuffle> kenzo450D: try to do a update: sudo apt-get upgrade and paste the output to pasebin
[12:22] <inflex> matanya: nice beast, if a little old now, but fitted with a nVidia GT230/GT216 GPU, 4GB memory and a nice 23" touch screen.
[12:22] <unknown_had> Hello I am trying to ssh one machine but not be able to ssh in but ping is ok (SSH server is running over it)
[12:22] <unknown_had> wht program might be blocking it?
[12:23] <unknown_had> I was trying to implement some NET rules using fire wall
[12:23] <histo> unknown_had: is this on local network or over the internet?
[12:23] <inflex> matanya: basically, with both the nouveau and nvidia driver it mangles the graphics ( http://dxp.me/i/hp600.jpg ), with the failsafe X it's limited to 1280x768 or so
[12:23] <unknown_had> s/NET/NAT
[12:23] <unknown_had> histo: it's over local
[12:23] <histo> unknown_had: see if it's listening ss -ant
[12:24] <histo> unknown_had: also check ufw or iptables to see if you setup a rule to block
[12:24] <kenzo450D> schnuffle: check this http://pastebin.com/zKnh8jeT
[12:24] <unknown_had> ss -ant says *:22
[12:25] <unknown_had> histo: you want me to paste complete report?
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> unknown_had  use pastebin
[12:26] <histo> unknown_had: sudo iptables -L
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:26] <unknown_had> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5713192/
[12:26] <unknown_had> histo: this one is for ss-ant
[12:26] <histo> unknown_had: I see that looks fine. Now try the iptables one
[12:28] <unknown_had> histo: thi si staking some time, too slow
[12:28] <unknown_had> s/this is taking
[12:28] <schnuffle> kenzo450D: can you paste sudo apt-get upgrade instaed of update? And first disable the awstools PPA
[12:28] <histo> unknown_had: sudo iptables -L | pastebinit
[12:29] <unknown_had> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5713206/
[12:31] <histo> unknown_had: wth were you doing with the firewall sheesh
[12:31] <unknown_had> sheesh :-| nothing
[12:31] <histo> I'm too tired and my head hurts to much to sort through that mess.
[12:31] <unknown_had> hard to tell what that is as I have never tried to touch that.
[12:32] <histo> unknown_had: were you using ufw?
[12:32] <unknown_had> nope
[12:32] <unknown_had> didn't used it.
[12:32] <histo> unknown_had: what application were you playing with to setup your NAT rules
[12:32] <unknown_had> have used gufw
[12:33] <unknown_had> oops
[12:33] <histo> unknown_had: sudo ufw allow ssh
[12:33] <unknown_had> I think both are same
[12:33] <unknown_had> histo: still no help
[12:34] <histo> unknown_had: Well I would undo whatever you did with gufw
[12:34] <unknown_had> I already did that
[12:34] <kenzo450D> schnuffle: How do I disable a package? I tried removing it, which ended up as Unable to locate package awstools-dev
[12:34] <unknown_had> and after doing that nothing worked
[12:34] <histo> unknown_had: or have someone else sort out that mess.  I have to get some sleep.
[12:35] <unknown_had> so I buzzed you guys
[12:35] <unknown_had> ok np
[12:35] <unknown_had> Thanks for yout time
[12:35] <unknown_had> good night
[12:35] <histo> unknown_had: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5713225/  Should look like this
[12:35] <unknown_had> ok
[12:35] <unknown_had> Thanks
[12:36] <cfhowlett> clear
[12:38] <julie29> hello! what's the most lightweight de for ubuntu? i hate transitions/effects/shadows and so on...
[12:38] <bazhang> julie29, lxde/openbox  lubuntu
[12:39] <cfhowlett> julie29, also see xfce4/xubuntu
[12:39] <julie29> bazhang: do you use any of them?
[12:39] <bazhang> julie29, sure
[12:39] <julie29> cfhowlett: thanks
[12:39] <julie29> bazhang: really?
[12:39] <bsk> Xubuntu is great :)
[12:40] <bazhang> julie29, yes, really
[12:40] <julie29> too many options :(
[12:41] <statl> julie29: you may also consider very productive and lightweight tiling window managers like awesome
[12:42] <julie29> do they all work together? can i combine any de with any wm?
[12:45] <statl> Yes, if you have for example the package lubuntu-desktop installed and you use gnome, then all lubuntu programs are available under gnome, as well.
[12:45] <statl> Was that your question?
[12:46] <julie29> statl: i... guess... :p
[12:47] <statl> But also no... you will not get lubuntu to use for example kdm as it's window manager.
[12:47] <auronandace> julie29: desktop environments usually comes with their own window manager and it is often best to stick to that
[12:47] <julie29> statl: that's the answer i was looking for :)
[12:47] <julie29> auronandace: aha!
[12:48] <foofoobar> Hi. I have a high load avg of 1,8 and my cpu is at 2%
[12:48] <foofoobar> How can I figure out what is causing this high load?
[12:48] <cfhowlett> foofoobar, top
[12:48] <statl> foofoobar: take a look at the column cpu-time
[12:49] <foofoobar> cfhowlett: statl they all use lesser than 2% of cpu
[12:49] <foofoobar> they all add up to maybe 5%
[12:50] <meet> i installed the gnome 3.8 on ubuntu gnome 13.04 but I am not getting all the options. Like there is no settings for privacy or notification,etc. What could  be wrong?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> meet: I suggest you contact the PPA maintainer
[12:51] <bazhang> meet, the unsupported PPA?
[12:51] <foofoobar> cfhowlett, statl: any other hint what I can do ?
[12:51] <somsip> foofoobar: check %wa for excessive iowait
[12:52] <foofoobar> somsip: how?
[12:52] <somsip> foofoobar: top, iostat
[12:52] <foofoobar> somsip: wa is at 0.8
[12:52] <drmarvelous> Howdy, I've got a bit of a pickle.  A client just changed the admin account's password on an Ubuntu server, and is no longer able to login.
[12:52] <drmarvelous> I've got remote KVM to the server, but can't kick Ubuntu into recovery mode
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !password|drmarvelous,
[12:52] <somsip> foofoobar: not that then. Is load still high right now? Server or desktop?
[12:53] <foofoobar> somsip: desktop. Load ist still at 1,38
[12:53] <somsip> foofoobar: how many cores?
[12:53] <foofoobar> somsip: but I'm just running i3wm with irssi+chrome+sublime
[12:53] <foofoobar> 2 cores
[12:53] <nu> Hi. Question, how configure network stuff in the VirtualBox with Ubuntu installed in it?
[12:53] <foofoobar> Normally I'm at 0,6
[12:54] <mhr> Hello everyone
[12:54] <cfhowlett> mhr,
[12:54] <cfhowlett> greetings
[12:54] <drmarvelous> cfhowlett, yes, I read that
[12:54] <somsip> foofoobar: any RAM problems (clutching at straws here)
[12:54] <drmarvelous> I can't kick it into recovery mode, as the remote KVM seems to breeze past GRUB
[12:55] <foofoobar> somsip: 18% of RAM used
[12:55] <meet> bazhang: U used gnome3 ppa
[12:55] <meet> bazhang: I used the gnome3 ppa
[12:55] <mhr> How can I find all the similar types of applications/packages installed in ubuntu, like say all the DBMSs installed?
[12:55] <bazhang> meet, no.  it's listed as dangerous by the developers themselves and all PPA are unsupported here. contact the m for bug fixing etc
[12:56] <somsip> foofoobar: anything dodgy in /var/log/messages
[12:56] <foofoobar> somsip: no such file, you mean dmesg?
[12:57] <linuxdumb> i have a file i want to overwrite with a different copy of the same file but when i try it says permission denied
[12:57] <somsip> foofoobar: that'll do
[12:57] <drmarvelous> anyone have an idea?
[12:57] <foofoobar> somsip: nothing unusual there
[12:58] <foofoobar> somsip: load again at 1,62 now
[12:58] <linuxdumb> I assume i have to somehow get root permission, but how
[12:58] <foofoobar> somsip: maybe I should just do a reboot
[12:59] <mhr> linuxdumb, did you try sudo before the command? but be careful with what file you are trying to overwrite.
[12:59] <somsip> foofoobar: ugly solution. But then, I've got one server where Apache stops accepting connections once a day and all i've been able to come up with so far is restarting the service :-/
[13:00] <foofoobar> somsip: I'll try it
[13:01] <mhr> anyone know the command for what i asked above?
[13:01] <linuxdumb> no, I was not doing this on the command line level, just using the file browser etc...
[13:01] <auronandace> mhr: sudo mv /where/file/is /where/you/want/it
[13:03] <linuxdumb> thanks, just sudo, not gksudo?
[13:04] <auronandace> linuxdumb: gksudo is for launching graphical applications
[13:05] <linuxdumb> thanks
[13:06] <julie29> this is extremely annoying! why is "file, edit, view, history" and so on hidden whenever i don't hover over the menu bar?
[13:06] <mhr> auronandace, that was not my question
[13:06] <foofoobar> somsip: reboot solved it
[13:06] <foofoobar> i'm at 0,45 now
[13:06] <somsip> foofoobar: justa thought - was top sorted by CPU highest when you viewed it?
[13:06] <foofoobar> somsip: xorg
[13:07] <mhr> How can I find all the similar types of applications/packages installed in ubuntu, like say all the DBMSs installed?
[13:07] <auronandace> mhr: sorry, i thought you were asking in behalf of linuxdumb
[13:07] <auronandace> julie29: that is the way unity is designed
[13:08] <julie29> auronandace: i hate it!
[13:08] <mhr> auronandace, oh! no problem. can you see my question now?
[13:08] <auronandace> mhr: yes but i have no answer sorry
[13:08] <mhr> auronandace, oh ok, np
[13:09] <auronandace> julie29: unity is not the only desktop environment available, you can use something else if you like
[13:09] <foofoobar> julie29: there is gnome or kde
[13:09] <hs_> hello , anyone here knows how to change unity-greeter logo position ?
[13:11] <mhr> cfhowlett, do you know answer to my question?
[13:12] <foofoobar> mhr: I dont know if packages are categorized
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> mhr  better repeat the question every ten minutes or so, so the others know what it's about
[13:13] <foofoobar> mhr: but you can do something like:
[13:13] <meet> my ubuntu software is crashing as soon as I open it. ..?
[13:13] <foofoobar> dpkg -l | grep database
[13:13] <hs_> hello , anyone here knows how to change unity-greeter logo position ?
[13:13] <mhr> MonkeyDust, ok
[13:13] <bazhang> meet, using the unsupported gnome3.8 PPA ?
[13:13] <foofoobar> mhr, this lists all isntalled packages and filters for the keyword "database"
[13:13] <chenqisui> i want to install ubuntu 13.04 64bit but when I boot usb, it black screen
[13:14] <cfhowlett> mhr, sorry, dual reading.  I don't know what to tell you, but someone here will.
[13:14] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|chenqisu,
[13:14] <meet> bazhang: using the gnome3 ppa.. not the staging one.. and on ubuntu-gnome's site they have given it's ok..
[13:14] <mhr> foofoobar, ok i will try
[13:15] <bazhang> meet, it's a PPA though, and unsupported here.  try to ppa-purge it and then we can troubleshoot
[13:15] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | meet
[13:15] <meet> bazhang: so I will have to remove 3.8?
[13:15] <bazhang> meet, remove the PPA yes. see the link above
[13:16] <auronandace> meet: their website doesn't say its ok, they say its available and to be familiar with ppa-purge
[13:17] <Chiko> if maldet has found a hit is it possible to see what it is whilst the scan is still running?
[13:17] <cosname> Hi all, need help with shh for password promt. It always returns after 5 min. : @ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host@
[13:17] <meet> bazhang, auronandace : so any other graphical way to install stuff? I don't want to remove 3.8 :D how to install synaptic?
[13:18] <bazhang> via apt-get meet
[13:18] <meet> synaptic?
[13:18] <auronandace> meet: sudo apt-get install synaptic (but if you must use a graphical app then there is the ubuntu software centre)
[13:18] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install synaptic   meet
[13:18] <foofoobar> meet: with sudo apt-cache search <keyword> you can search for packages
[13:18] <ses1984> i'm trying to get libpam-mount working, and it's pretty weird. i'm getting debug messages about root trying to mount stuff spit right into the terminal, and i'm not sure if that's also getting logged to a log file. if it is, i can't figure out which log file
[13:18] <meet> thanks
[13:19] <ses1984> so i can see the messages about root trying to mount stuff, but i'm not actually trying to mount any shares as root, just as a user, and it's not working, but since i don't know where the messages are going, i'm not sure what's going wrong
[13:21] <cosname> Hi all, need help with shh for password promt. It always returns after 5 min. : @ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host@
[13:22] <diverdude> is mysql-c++ connector available in repo?
[13:23] <foofoobar> diverdude: apt-cache search ..
[13:23] <foofoobar> diverdude: libmysql++-dev - MySQL C++ library bindings (development)
[13:23] <bazhang> diverdude, apt-cache search term for it
[13:23] <diverdude> ah thanks
[13:24] <kenzo450D> Hi, I am curious as to how to disable a ppa in ubuntu?
[13:24] <bazhang> ppa-purge kenzo450D
[13:24] <foofoobar> !ppa-purge | kenzo450D
[13:25] <jnhghy> is there a short command for getting the up time in terminal? or going for top is the way to do it?
[13:25] <bazhang> uptime   jnhghy
[13:26] <jnhghy> uptime is the command sorry
[13:26] <jnhghy> bazhang: just found it, thanks
[13:27] <diverdude> when i distribute my program is there any clever way to inform the user that forexample libmysql++-dev is necessary to build ?
[13:27] <dougsko> diverdude: if youre using auto tools, youd set that up in your configure script
[13:28] <diverdude> dougsko: ok...and that package isnt suddently gonna change name or something?
[13:28] <dougsko> diverdude: this is all pretty dependent on how youre distributing
[13:28] <diverdude> dougsko: yes ok
[13:28] <cosname> Hi all, need help with shh for password promt. It always returns after 5 min. : @ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host@
[13:28] <cosname> Hi all, need help with shh for password promt. It always returns after 5 min. : @ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host@
[13:28] <cosname> Hi all, need help with shh for password promt. It always returns after 5 min. : @ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host@
[13:28] <FloodBot1> cosname: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:29] <julie29> where can i find a comparison list (with screenshots) of differenct de and wm?
[13:30] <bazhang> julie29, distrowatch.com has some links
[13:30] <dougsko> diverdude: or you could always just put it in the README :)
[13:30] <julie29> bazhang: thanks!
[13:31] <nonxa> Hi guys
[13:32] <dv_> Hello. Anybody else here having problems with UEFI installations? Secureboot is disabled, yet grub fails.
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> !uefi
[13:32] <dv_> (installing 13.04)
[13:34] <julie29> bazhang: i must be blind :p
[13:34] <julie29> unable to find anything there
[13:35] <dv_> I have seen that page. Unfortunately, the problem persists.
[13:36] <bazhang> http://xwinman.org/   julie29
[13:36] <julie29> bazhang: thank you!
[13:37] <amkei> hello, I've got a specific problem!  after a fsck-repair-operation where some blocks and nodes changed wasnt my system able to boot.
[13:37] <amkei> before the grub-screen I got a short message "error: invalid environment block", then comes the grub-screen.
[13:37] <amkei> if I choose my default entry the boot process hangs up, if i choose recovery-mode the console says "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[13:37] <Chiko> anyone familiar with maldet?
[13:37] <cn9hu3> xit
[13:37] <cn9hu3> exit
[13:38] <bazhang> http://www.thecodingstudio.com/?linux  julie29
[13:38] <julie29> bazhang: there's so much stuff to choose from!
[13:39] <amkei> I tried to update-initramfs throught a chroot-login, a can access to all data, but wont boot...Its really important to get that system running for me
[13:39] <dv_> Ah whatever. I'll just install it in bios mode.
[13:40] <sifu_> isn't this the default path for php.ini in ubuntu under normal circumstances: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[13:41] <julie29> bazhang: do you know what de and wm debian 7 is using?
[13:41] <bazhang> julie29, ask in #debian
[13:41] <julie29> ok
[13:43] <Chiko> gzbase64.inject.unclassed.1377
[13:43] <Alexio> ciao
[13:48] <drmarvelous> I am trying to reset the password of a user on a server (tried the recovery guide), but I am getting "cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[13:48] <drmarvelous> no job control in this shell
[13:54] <heywood> join #tor
[13:56] <hs_> hello , any idea how to change unity-greeter logo position ?
[13:57] <hs_> and about the grub bootloader menu , in the top-center it writen grub2<ubuntu-version> how to change this line couldnt find it on the net nor ask ubuntu
[14:01] <mojtaba> Hi, Should I care about something if I kill -9 a process? What if every time I do this? Would something happen to the OS, like windows? I am using ubuntu 13.04
[14:03] <rewarp> mojtaba: Depends on what process you are killing. Usually nothing if you are killing say, a non-responsive download manager.
[14:03] <mojtaba> rewarp: I am killing all the time xbmc. It is not responsive when I am exiting in a normal way
[14:04] <mojtaba> rewarp: Should I run any command to organize the OS regularly, like those in windows (windows registry cleaner, windows cleaner, optimizer, ...)?
[14:05] <away> considering xbmc isn't a system process, kill -9 shouldn't damage the system in any way
[14:05] <rewarp> mojtaba: Have you tried asking the xbmc project why this is happening? Seems like a bug.
[14:06] <betrayd> mojtaba see if you can get a snapshot of the ps aux with xbmc there
[14:06] <rewarp> Also, the only cleaning tool I use is the sudo apt-get clean command to clear away old installation files and Ubuntu Tweak's Janitor as well.
[14:08] <betrayd> do you run these often, is there a need to
[14:10] <Lightz> hi. is apparmor only used for applications or can i also set read write and execute rules for files an directories? thanks
[14:10] <rewarp> Ubuntu Tweak's Janitor is very convenient. I never learnt how to uninstall old kernels from the terminal because Tweak makes it so easy.
[14:11] <NoiseEee> i'm on 12.04 and i see "x packages can be updated / x updates are security updates".  uh how can i get them
[14:11] <A1Recon> Does the wget command download at the maximum possible speed by default??
[14:12] <rewarp> NoiseEee: You should be able to launch the update manager/software updater.
[14:12] <NoiseEee> rewarp: console only... server
[14:12] <houser> when is next LTS released?
[14:12] <rewarp> apt-get upgrade
[14:13] <rewarp> apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:13] <KyouReeus4nfo> apt-get dist-upgrade --- for the ones that are left behind
[14:13] <NoiseEee> rewarp: well i want to stay on 12.04LTS
[14:13] <NoiseEee> i guess they are dist upgrades, i get told "following packages held back: ...lts-quantal"
[14:13] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | NoiseEee
[14:13] <A1Recon> I stopped a dwnld by wget by accident? Can I continue it??
[14:14] <rewarp> NoiseEee I run a server on Debian 7 and my PC on 12.04.
[14:14] <NoiseEee> word Pici thanks
[14:14] <betrayd> type man wget, A1Recon i think resume is the default action
[14:14] <A1Recon> I stopped a dwnld by wget by accident? Can I continue it?
[14:15] <A1Recon> betrayd: but it dows not
[14:15] <A1Recon> betrayd: i will check though
[14:15] <RxDx> I just bought an ultrabook that came with Windows8 with UEFI (no bios)... Of course I resize the partition and installed Ubuntu, with no troubles, but I have no grub... so I cant choose between Ubuntu and Windows.. How can I fix it?
[14:15] <vitimiti> hio/
[14:16] <A1Recon> betrayd: If the server supports regetting, it will instruct the server to continue the download from where it left off.
[14:16] <A1Recon> Apparently it depends on the server
[14:17] <betrayd> AIRecon, right, the 'smart' folks know to set it up so they don't get hammered with redundant requests
[14:18] <rewarp> RxDx: You need to install grub to the MBR.
[14:19] <betrayd> you tried -nc noclobber A1Recon (dont overlay/clobber) and do -v (verbose)
[14:19] <hs_> and about the grub bootloader menu , in the top-center it writen grub2<ubuntu-version> how to change this line couldnt find it on the net nor ask ubuntu
[14:19] <RxDx> rewarp, in witch partition MBR is?
[14:20] <polla> hola
[14:20] <polla> hay alguien
[14:21] <betrayd> !br | polla
[14:21] <flintser> RxDx mbr is not in a partition, its a record before partitions in the hd, and it contsins the info about partitions
[14:21] <rewarp> RxDx: I am googling for the appropriate newbie guide.
[14:21] <polla> jhdfdkj
[14:21] <polla> j
[14:21] <polla> h
[14:21] <polla> g
[14:22] <polla> f
[14:22] <polla> d
[14:22] <FloodBot1> polla: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:22] <polla> s
[14:22] <polla> a
[14:22] <RxDx> flintser, rewarp, i have an EFI partition mounted at /boot/efi
[14:22] <ChristW> I've installed the trickled daemon. Now, when I apt-get something, my computer is still downloading at top-speed. Do I need to do anything else to clip my download speed to the speed I specified when I started the daemon?
[14:22] <betrayd> i tried to speak softly but BigStick wins
[14:23] <phillyj> lol
[14:23] <phillyj> maybe his keyboard was broken
[14:23] <hs_> and about the grub bootloader menu , in the top-center it writen grub2<ubuntu-version> how to change this line couldnt find it on the net nor ask ubuntu
[14:23] <A1Recon> betrayd: No I did not. I downloaded it again...
[14:24] <rewarp> RxDx: This guide seems easy to follow. I haven't done a grub rescue in ages so others should double check too http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[14:24] <RxDx> rewarp, thanks :)
[14:24] <A1Recon> what does sudo apt-get postgresql do? I mean what is postgresql?? Got this command from a friend but i need to know what it does
[14:25] <Pici> A1Recon: nothing. you're missing an action (install) there.  Anyway, postgresql is an RDBMS (A database server)
[14:26] <RxDx> A1Recon, I think this command is wrong.. maybe the correct is "sudo apt-get install postgreesql".. that install the postgree SQL database (an alternative to mySQL for example)
[14:26] <A1Recon> RxDx: Pici: yeah I missed "install". thanks for that. LOL i should have googled... :P
[14:26] <RxDx> np :)
[14:26] <betrayd> iyep nothing wrong A1Recon, at best, you'll know how wget works....
[14:27] <A1Recon> RxDx: typing your name makes the *x* and *D* in your name go like xD
[14:27]  * JohannKrauss hello ;)
[14:27] <basshedd> hi
[14:28] <basshedd> got a prob with my ubuntu system, wintendo dont boot, wanna play world of warcraft, not possible, windows says no valid boot medium, can access /host, dont know what to set
[14:29] <A1Recon> RxDx: Say I got a command like sudo apt-get install xyz . Is there a way to know what gresql does?
[14:29] <A1Recon> RxDx: I mean what *xyz* does??
[14:30] <RxDx> A1Recon, lol.. its my name initials letter..
[14:30] <RxDx> A1Recon, yes.. apt-cache search xyz
[14:31] <ccolorado> Can I specify rw to users and group and only r to guests from an fstab mount ?
[14:31] <RxDx> A1Recon,  if you want a GUI interface.. you can use synaptics
[14:34] <rewarp> RxDx: Looks like you can ignore your EFI partition and install grub to your MBR. http://superuser.com/questions/520068/efi-partition-vs-boot-partition
[14:35] <RxDx> rewarp, thanks a lot :)
[14:35] <drmarvelous> When trying to reset a users password, I am getting this error: http://imgur.com/Nl5maAQ
[14:38] <RxDx> rewarp, "The installer warned me about 'no EFI partition found' but I ignored it, because I like to live dangerously." LOL.. that was funny
[14:39] <rewarp> RxDx: You are welcome. I usually use SystemRescueCD for stuff like this though. It has the necessary tools baked in and is pretty lightweight. Handy to have around. You can try using it instead of the Ubuntu livecd/liveusb.
[14:39] <rewarp> http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-Partitioning-EN-Repairing-a-damaged-Grub
[14:40] <julie29> i'm so confused right now. what's the easiest/"best" way to install gnome 3.8 on ubuntu 13.04? :/
[14:41] <bazhang> julie29, there is no supported way. there are various unsupported PPA you can research and find on the web
[14:41] <bazhang> !ppa | julie29
[14:41] <rednet> # join ubuntu.de
[14:41] <rewarp> julie29: The folks at OMGUbuntu have written a guide for it. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/gnome-3-8-ppa-for-ubuntu-gnome
[14:42] <rednet> # join /ubuntu.de
[14:42] <rednet> wie war das n
[14:42] <ChristW> rednet: /join #ubuntu.de  ?
[14:42] <julie29> bazhang: rewarp: uh oh! "unsupported third-party packages" sounds scary :(
[14:42] <julie29> should i stay away from them?
[14:43] <bazhang> julie29, read the info above about PPA
[14:43] <rewarp> julie29: Depends how dangerously you like to live.
[14:43] <rewarp> Newer packages are brone to bugs.
[14:44] <betrayd> drmarvelous are you in recovery mode though
[14:44] <drmarvelous> betrayd, I can't get to recovery mode, as it asks for the root maintenance password
[14:44] <drmarvelous> which I'm trying to reset :)
[14:44] <betrayd> drmarvelous whts really going on, why dont you start from the beginning
[14:45] <drmarvelous> betrayd, client changed password on two accounts to bring in a contractor, passwords don't match up after he changed, now everyone is locked out
[14:45] <betrayd>  /me lights a cigarette
[14:45] <drmarvelous> we have remote KVM, so I got to grub and edited the boot
[14:45] <julie29> bazhang: rewarp: i'm too scared to change anything, but i really hate unity!
[14:45] <bazhang> !notunity | julie29
[14:46] <auronandace> julie29: install another desktop from the repos then
[14:46] <bazhang> so install something else julie29
[14:46] <drmarvelous> but here's where I'm stuck.  I can't choose regular recovery mode because the password is unknown, and I can't mount rw (or single) init=/bin/bash, because I get an ioctl error
[14:46] <rewarp> julie29: You can simply install the stock Gnome or other DEs in the software centre.
[14:46] <drmarvelous> that is all :\
[14:46] <drmarvelous> I only have remote access to the machine, no physical access
[14:47] <julie29> bazhang: auronandace: rewarp: so i can use the software center to install gnome shell or "gnome 2"? which one do you guys prefer and why?
[14:47] <rewarp> julie29: I am personally using the KDE DE through their backports PPA.
[14:47] <auronandace> julie29: up to you what you want (there is no gnome2 anymore)
[14:47] <bazhang> julie29, there is no gnome2  please dont poll here. try some different ones and decide what you like
[14:48] <julie29> by "gnome 2" i meant gnome fallback mode :)
[14:48] <rewarp> If in doubt, install everything. And try them all out.
[14:48] <julie29> yes, sorry for asking so many questions
[14:48] <auronandace> julie29: try cinnamon, thats very gnome2-like
[14:48] <rewarp> As long as they are from the official repos, your chances of breaking stuff is minimal.
[14:49] <drmarvelous> betrayd, any idea?
[14:49] <auronandace> !info cinnamon | julie29
[14:49] <julie29> auronandace: i'll look it up!
[14:49] <betrayd> drmarvelous what made grub your target
[14:49] <drmarvelous> the lost password section of ubuntus docs
[14:50] <betrayd> drmarvelous eay you still have access
[14:50]  * falcon say hi :)
[14:51] <betrayd> drmarvelous you* say you still have access
[14:52] <drmarvelous> to what
[14:52] <betrayd> drmarvelous to the remote? as nonroot?
[14:52] <drmarvelous> I have kvm access, and I can boot the system
[14:52] <drmarvelous> yes, I have nonroot
[14:52] <drmarvelous> not in sudoers
[14:52] <johnjohn101> o
[14:53] <adamk> drmarvelous: Get the contractor on the phone and tell them to fix their screwup :-)
[14:53] <johnjohn101> i'm now using ndiswrapper for my wireless dongle. is there anything i need to be worried about?
[14:53] <betrayd> who is root, cant he just reset the password to the one guy before you break his fingers
[14:53] <drmarvelous> unfortunately not :/
[14:53] <drmarvelous> trying to avoid having someone at the NOC fix this
[14:54] <adamk> At this point, I doubt there's any other option, from what you've said...
[14:54] <drmarvelous> adamk, thats what I thought
[14:54] <rewarp> johnjohn101: If it works, then there is no problem. I was stuck on ndiswrapper for 1 year when using Hardy Heron. No real issues.
[14:58] <A1Recon> RxDx: Can I PM u ?
[15:01] <betrayd> johnjohn101, ndiswrappwer working congratulations! Keep notes for any future re-use...
[15:02] <hs_> and about the grub bootloader menu , in the top-center it writen grub2<ubuntu-version> how to change this line couldnt find it on the net nor ask ubuntu
[15:05] <rewarp> hs_: I never really tried to customise grub, because it's rather hard to do so. If you want eyecandy in your boot manager, try burg.
[15:07] <guest43961> hey
[15:07] <OerHeks> hs_, according to this post, you cannot edit that line, even with grub cusomizer >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2141518&s=7f9ce65d94adaf366dbe7ef6149ac4a5&p=12631603#post12631603
[15:08] <Artpicre> Hello
[15:09] <diverdude> what is this weird mysql c++ api ubuntu offers in the repo???? http://tangentsoft.net/mysql++ Why don't it off the official mysql c++ api instead?
[15:21] <root> hey :)
[15:29] <Guest32729> hello
[15:29] <Downbeam> hello
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> hello
[15:31] <cariveri> hey there. Does anyone know of a "thinker" mousecursor ?
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> cariveri  thinker mousecursor?
[15:32] <grimeton> hi
[15:33] <grimeton> what does one have todo to make grub-set-default working on raring?
[15:34] <cariveri> MonkeyDust: yes. when it changed to "being busy" then a "thinker" was shown. I remembere this from win 3.11 I think, not sure. ther emust be something similar.
[15:35] <IdleOne> MonkeyDust: I think he means the spinning mouse pointer when the system is busy doing something.
[15:37] <Downbeam>  hi does anyone know how to watch netflix with ubuntu?
[15:38] <grimeton> yeah, that's what i thought
[15:38] <grimeton> i bet it never worked
[15:39] <Downbeam> grimeton, you talking to me?
[15:41] <adamk> Downbeam: This worked for me: http://www.howtogeek.com/130372/how-to-watch-netflix-on-ubuntu-with-the-netflix-desktop-app/
[15:41] <rewarp> grimeton: Any problems with following this guide? https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/legacy/Invoking-grub_002dset_002ddefault.html
[15:42] <grimeton> rewarp: i'm talking about the grub-set-default that ubuntu provides
[15:42] <grimeton> rewarp: not some vanilla stuff, that would be to easy
[15:44] <rewarp> grimeton: Have you tried using Grub Customizer?
[15:44] <grimeton> rewarp: no - what's that?
[15:44] <rewarp> It easily allows one to edit grub or burg settings through a GUI.
[15:44] <rewarp> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-grub-customizer-in-ubuntu-13-04.html
[15:45] <grimeton> rewarp: no gui here, sorry
[15:45] <grimeton> rewarp: if i follow the ubuntu guide and the manual page it *SHOULD* work
[15:45] <rewarp> I never had to bother with grub configs after installing it.
[15:45] <grimeton> but it looks like grub doesn't even care about the settings that have been changed and just does what it thinks is best
[15:45] <fluffybunnyuk_> hi anyone know the best cure for a no screens found problem?
[15:45] <grimeton> it didn't work in 12.10, 12.04 ... why should it work in raring ...
[15:46] <rewarp> grimeton: Were your settings erased after editting them? Or did they simply fail to work? Which file were you editting?
[15:47] <grimeton> rewarp: it's about booting a different kernel than the first one in the list
[15:47] <grimeton> rewarp: using grub-set-default
[15:47] <grimeton> following the manual page (which points to a tex document that is exactly the same), i just have to use the title
[15:48] <grimeton> doing this, i get an error when running grub-mkconfig that i shouldn't use the title anymore and use a class instead
[15:48] <grimeton> doing this, which also modifies /boot/grub/grubenv still doesn't solve the problem
[15:49] <grimeton> and yes /etc/default/grub is changed to reflect the desire for using /boot/grub/grubenv
[15:49] <mojtaba> rewarp: Should I run any command to organize the OS regularly, like those in windows (windows registry cleaner, windows cleaner, optimizer, ...)?
[15:49] <mojtaba> Should I run any command to organize the OS regularly, like those in windows (windows registry cleaner, windows cleaner, optimizer, ...)?
[15:50] <rewarp> motjaba: Nope. You only need to clean the cache once in a while.
[15:50] <rewarp> grimeton: Have you tried editting the 40_custom file directly?
[15:50] <grimeton> rewarp: what for?
[15:52] <ro9> what should i do with .goutputstream-XXXXX files
[15:52] <rewarp> Since grub2 's config is a product of various scripts, editting the file grub.cfg would mean the settings will be reset.
[15:52] <grimeton> rewarp: noone edited /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[15:52] <rewarp> You can specify custom settings with the 40_custom file which will write the settings into grub.cfg.
[15:53] <grimeton> great and ubuntu.com is down too
[15:53] <grimeton> rewarp: the idea behind grub-set-default is that one does not need to touch those config files
[15:53] <rewarp> grimeton: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[15:53] <john_rambo> Bluetooth dongle is detected but it cant detect my phone
[15:54] <rewarp> grimeton: It's how I did the edits previously without a GUI.
[15:54] <grimeton> rewarp: yeah, but that's not the way it's meant to be ....
[15:55] <slax0r> hi, kak se v ubuntu serverju pogleda katera verzija laufa?
[15:55] <Lightz> hi. is apparmor only used for applications or can i also set read write and execute rules for files an directories? thanks
[15:55] <grimeton> rewarp: read the manual page of grub-set-default, and check /etc/default/grub for the "GRUB_DEFAULT=" line and its meanings
[15:55] <grimeton> Lightz: how should that work?
[15:55] <slax0r> gah, wrong channel, sorry
[15:56] <grimeton> Lightz: you can define which application can read/write which file(s)
[15:56] <grimeton> based on the apps name and the user it runs under
[15:56] <Lightz> grimeton: ok. thank you.
[15:56] <Lightz> grimeton: selinux works the same?
[15:56] <grimeton> Lightz: you can run into trouble if you try to access a file outside the path(s)/file(s) that have been added to the apps config off app_armor
[15:57] <grimeton> Lightz: the approach is the same, same as grsecurity ...
[15:57] <grimeton> s/off/of/
[15:57] <Lightz> grimeton: ok. thanks a lot
[15:59] <DavidCWG> Hey all. I'm trying to raise a bug against Samba in Ubuntu Server but ubuntu-bug won't let me proceed without answering the question "Did this used to work properly with a previous release?". I don't have the resources to install an older version of Ubuntu/Samba somewhere. Is there another way I can raise a bug?
[16:00] <grimeton> DavidCWG: just say no
[16:03] <Afteraffekt> Is the Ubuntu website down?
[16:03] <Afteraffekt> ive checked the is it just me site and it says its down
[16:05] <yousaf> how can I reset a password for sudo user
[16:05] <yousaf> i got KVM access only
[16:05] <DavidCWG> Afteraffekt: http://www.isup.me/ubuntu.com
[16:05] <DavidCWG> Says it's up right now
[16:05] <DavidCWG> Though I just reloaded the page and got a 503 so… it's not completely up, apparently
[16:06] <Afteraffekt> DavidCWG, Odd, I get 503 Service Unavailable
[16:06] <DavidCWG> It is in an indeterminate state of upness.
[16:06] <seronis> anyone know if 'netflix-dexktop' works on the ubuntu tablets ?
[16:06] <alexa> Is it possible to give a non-admin user permission to "only" install apps?
[16:07] <alexa> or is it possible to make completely separate two accounts?
[16:07] <SuperBawlz> My ubuntu is showing that my disk is pretty much full. I found a fold that I had created that was meant to be encrypted and I never put anything in it but it seemed to be the offending file. So I unmounted it and deleted it. But I never got any diskspace back.
[16:07] <grimeton> yousaf: define "sudo user" ?
[16:08] <grimeton> yousaf: you need the root login?
[16:08] <DavidCWG> grimeton: Thanks.
[16:08] <grimeton> Afteraffekt: it's down here too
[16:08] <grimeton> Afteraffekt: it depends on the part of the world you are in
[16:08] <VEndix> how to install newest irssi on ubuntu 10?
[16:09] <alexa> I get it. I'm on some kind of irc waiting list :D
[16:09] <seronis> Afteraffekt: its in a state of heavy load so will toggle between up and down (most likely scenerio).  just wait a few seconds when you get a bad page and refresh
[16:11] <yousaf> grimeton i had a user called "star" and when did "sudo su" it will give me root privilages
[16:11] <yousaf> i lost the password for that user
[16:11] <yousaf> and I don't have the root password
[16:11] <grimeton> yousaf: but you are in front of the machine at a keyboard and a monitor?
[16:11] <yousaf> nope
[16:11] <yousaf> dedicated server
[16:11] <yousaf> :(
[16:11] <grimeton> yousaf: so what's a KVM then?
[16:12] <[nas]peter> KVM over IP
[16:12] <grimeton> yeah, that's a local connection ...
[16:12] <[nas]peter> allows you to control the dedicated server from wherever you are
[16:12] <[nas]peter> not necessarily
[16:12] <grimeton> yousaf: so you are in front of the machine
[16:12] <yousaf> suphttp://www.supermicro.co.uk/products/accessories/addon/SIM.cfm
[16:12] <grimeton> yousaf: press ctrl+alt+delete to reboot the server, when it comes up again interrupt grub and select the entry you want to boot with the up/down keys
[16:12] <grimeton> yousaf: but don't press enter, press "e" instead
[16:13] <grimeton> yousaf: then select the kernel line, remove any init= commands in that line and add at the end: init=/bin/bash
[16:13] <grimeton> yousaf: that brings the system up in single user mode
[16:13] <yousaf> i get a black screen when i launched KVM viewer
[16:13] <grimeton> yousaf: remount the root to be read/write: mount / -o remount,rw
[16:13] <alexa> my answer is: All users: ADDHOST HELP IDENT INFO PASS VOICE WHO WHOIS
[16:13] <alexa> sorry
[16:13] <alexa> my answer is: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64889/give-permission-to-user-only-to-install-applications
[16:14] <grimeton> yousaf: run the passwd command, enter your password, remount ro: mount / -o remount,ro and press ctrl+alt+delete again
[16:14] <grimeton> yousaf: then it reboots and the password you entered will be the root password
[16:14] <grimeton> yousaf: problem solved
[16:14] <yousaf> grimeton but I get a black screen when i launch the kvm viewer
[16:14] <grimeton> yousaf: yeah, the kvm needs some time to adjust, but you should be able to press up/down keys or the escape key even while you are not seeing anything
[16:14] <grimeton> yousaf: yeah, that's the screensaver - press space or something and you will see the console
[16:15] <grimeton> yousaf: the important part is: the system will be rebooted and you have to be aware of this
[16:15] <yousaf> right i can see the screen now
[16:15] <yousaf> but its asking me to login
[16:15] <grimeton> yousaf: just send a ctrl+alt+delete
[16:15] <grimeton> that will reboot the machine
[16:16] <esperegu> I updated from 12.04 to 12.10 but when it rebooted it only showed "missing operating system". I tried the boot-repair-disk and installing grub manually with a live cd (complaints about GPT). I also tried changing some drive stuff in the bios but no luck thus far.  that pc was running fine before the update.  any suggestions??
[16:17] <YokoBR> guys, please.. i have a HP G42 laptop, and it's shutting down because of the overheating.... Just installed a fresh install of ubuntu.
[16:18] <grimeton> esperegu: gpt can be a bit tricky ... i guess you have to work your way through this by hand or get professional help
[16:18] <Ari-Yang> YokoBR, maybe the laptop is old?...
[16:18] <YokoBR> Ari-Yang, 2 yr old.
[16:18] <esperegu> grimeton: :-(
[16:18] <YokoBR> So i just can't use linux on it.
[16:19] <Ari-Yang> perhaps a cooling-pad (laptop fan), YokoBR?
[16:19] <esperegu> grimeton: I don't get it. its a (k)ubuntu only install and I just upgraded.
[16:19] <yousaf> grimeton, if I paid you for your effort, would you reset this password for me?
[16:19] <yousaf> not in linux
[16:19] <yousaf> into*
[16:20] <Ari-Yang> YokoBR, or maybe that's what you need, lubuntu
[16:20] <YokoBR> Ari-Yang, i'm on a 12000BTU air conditioneer.
[16:20] <rewarp> YokoBR: I had a Compaq die on me before. I'd say two years is the expected life of a budget laptop from HP.
[16:20] <YokoBR> at 17°C
[16:20] <Ari-Yang> what drivers are you using? open-source or proprietary?
[16:21] <YokoBR> Ari-Yang, it's a fresh install... i guess it's the opensource.
[16:21] <Ari-Yang> yeah, it is then....
[16:21] <silv3r_m00n> i want to install all packages that have "wallpapers"  in their name, apt-get install *wallpapers doesnt work
[16:21] <Ari-Yang> not sure what else you can do YokoBR :V maybe try out lubuntu?
[16:21] <Ari-Yang> !lubuntu
[16:21] <Ari-Yang> it's a light weight OS based on Ubuntu, here's a link http://lubuntu.net/
[16:21] <seronis> YokoBR: a friend of mine fixes tons of laptops and other things for people. Nearly all overheating issues end up being either bad airflow and dust builds up inside it which means you can just open it up and blow it out
[16:22] <seronis> YokoBR: or the thermal paste was crap and just using a new coat fixes it
[16:22] <Ari-Yang> when was the last time you cleaned your laptop?
[16:22] <YokoBR> i've blowed it with an industrial blower
[16:22] <YokoBR> and temperature was fine with windows
[16:23] <YokoBR> Ari-Yang, last week.
[16:24] <YokoBR> Ari-Yang, as i said, the temperature was fine on Window$
[16:24] <esperegu> grimeton: where to find info to 'work through it by hand' ?
[16:25] <py_can> hi, i installed a second OS on /dev/sda2
[16:25] <py_can> but ubuntu keeps booting which is on /dev/sda1
[16:25] <py_can> i dont see any grub menu
[16:25] <Ari-Yang> YokoBR, well then maybe you should try lubuntu.
[16:25] <py_can> i commented 'GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=15' in /etc/default/grub
[16:25] <py_can> how can i add a grub item for /dev/sda2?
[16:25] <seronis> YokoBR: 'industrial blower' is extreme overkill and if you just did this last week you might have damaged the bearings in your fan. Find a friend who is comfortable messing with tech who will open it up, check your fans, and put a new coat of thermal paste as needed
[16:27] <YokoBR> seronis, i didn't. It was fine running Window$ yesterday. I just set it to a lower power.
[16:27] <daz646> n #ubuntu
[16:27] <YokoBR> The biggest problem is that i have hybrid graphics.
[16:28] <YokoBR> so the open source drivers only enable the onboard gpu, wich is a legacy HD 4250, when i have an offboard Gpu, HD 6310
[16:28] <seronis> YokoBR:  disable your onboard in the bios so that the OSS drivers have no choice in what to use
[16:29] <YokoBR> seronis, it's a muxless hybrid laptop. So i can't disable it on bios.
[16:29] <DocPlatypus> anyone know how to get ABC News videos to play on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, either Chromium or Firefox?
[16:30] <py_can> How can I add an item in grub?
[16:30] <py_can> I have a new OS
[16:30] <py_can> dual boot
[16:31] <YokoBR> for god's sake, why have you done this, HP?! ATI?! Are you trying to test my faith?!
[16:31] <py_can> but it goes to ubuntu
[16:31] <FloodBot1> py_can: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:31] <YokoBR> py_can, edit grub.conf
[16:31] <py_can> YokoBR: I only need to add /dev/sda2
[16:31] <DocPlatypus> or, let me ask it like this: Has ABC (as in the American ABC) knowingly broken compatibility with GNU/Linux, either affirmatively or by omission?
[16:32] <py_can> YokoBR: where can i find example code? I've looked.
[16:32] <eoo> any idea why the java perspective does not work for me in eclipse
[16:32] <seronis> py_can: after editing /etc/default/grub did you run   'sudo update-grub'  ?
[16:32] <YokoBR> py_can, try update-grub
[16:32] <YokoBR> sudo update-grub
[16:33] <py_can> seronis: no, i did not
[16:33] <py_can> ok thx, brb
[16:33] <seronis> py_can:  thats required
[16:33] <py_can> i forgot ;')
[16:33] <seronis> =-)
[16:33] <raub> How do I run apache inside gdb?
[16:33] <Ari-Yang> py_can, /etc/default/grub
[16:33] <seronis> Ari-Yang:  he already edited that
[16:33] <Ari-Yang> don't edit the /boot/grub/grub.cgf
[16:35] <eoo> any java guys here
[16:35] <mojtaba> Is there any command to organize the OS regularly, like those in windows? (e.g. windows registry cleaner, windows optimizer, windows cleaner,... )
[16:35] <seronis> eoo:  yes,  but also try  #eclipse
[16:37] <YokoBR> how can i download xubuntu 12.04, not 12.04.1
[16:37] <seronis> mojtaba:  1 month of using xubuntu here..  so far what i've figured out is apt-get handles any cleaning you need to do.  use   apt-get purge instead of apt-get remove if you want it to delete settings info
[16:37] <Ari-Yang> YokoBR, why Xubuntu and not lubuntu?
[16:37] <Ari-Yang> !xubuntu
[16:37] <seronis> mojtaba: also for user specific information just look inside your home directory at all the hidden folders
[16:37] <julie29> hello again! i just installed sublime text 2 and now i'm wondering where all the files are located on my hdd. can someone please help?
[16:37] <YokoBR> Ari-Yang, i really hate lxde and i really love xfce/gnome
[16:37] <Ari-Yang> o
[16:38] <genii-around> YokoBR: Also, if you could download 12.04 and do all the updates, it would just be 12.04.<whatever> anyhow
[16:38] <mojtaba> seronis: thanks
[16:38] <YokoBR> genii-around, but i can't. I NEED 3.4 kernel AND xserver 1.12
[16:39] <YokoBR> i hate ati for not releasing the driver and hp for delivering me a muxless hybrid with no option on bios.
[16:39] <seronis> Ari-Yang: i've installed (and uninstalled) plain ubuntu/mint a dozen or more times in the past 6 years and gone back to windows.  used XFCE for the past month (first try with it) and havent wanted to put win7 back on.  Can ya tell me a few features of 'L'ubuntu that might make it worth checking out too ?
[16:40] <YokoBR> agreed, seronis. Can't see any difference
[16:40] <julie29> tired of me already? i'm only asking because i know there should be a sublime_text file on my computer, but i can't find it!
[16:40] <seronis> YokoBR: agreed? I was gonna try lxde too if xfce hadnt made me happy. I just havent tried it yet and would honestly like information from someone who has an opinion on the matter
[16:41] <YokoBR> seronis, i mean, what does xfce and lxde have with this?!
[16:41] <Ari-Yang> seronis, I don't know much about lubuntu's features, was just suggesting it because it light weight lol XD you'll ave to google around yourself :b
[16:41] <YokoBR> the problem is not the windows manager
[16:41] <YokoBR> window*
[16:41] <seronis> YokoBR: 'this' ?  i was asking ari for info.  unrelated to your stuff
[16:41] <Ari-Yang> I'm sure there are comparisons out there
[16:42] <YokoBR> seronis, sorry, got the bus running
[16:42] <seronis> Ari-Yang: ok =-) i (wrongly) assumed you were using it if you would suggest it OVER xubuntu =-)
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> I'm on ubuntu 12.10 myself using E17
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> no worries :T
[16:42] <seronis> E17?  redhat ?
[16:43] <seronis> now i gotta google E17 =-)  thought that was related to fedora/redhat, not ubuntu
[16:44] <Ari-Yang> seronis, http://www.enlightenment.org/
[16:44] <seronis> Ari-Yang:  yup taht was first google result.  checking it out now
[16:46] <julie29> hello again! i just installed sublime text 2 and now i'm wondering where all the files are located on my hdd. can someone please help?
[16:48] <seronis> julie29: specifically which files?
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> julie29  what do the preferences show? where does it 'save as'?
[16:49] <julie29> seronis: any files associated with sublime text. i'm supposed to cd to /usr/lib/sublime-text-2, but it is nowhere to be found!
[16:50] <seronis> julie29: the binary is probably in /usr/bin or  /usr/local/bin
[16:50] <julie29> MonkeyDust: i will tell you when i'm able to find it! :p
[16:50] <julie29> seronis: hold on!
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> julie29  it's not in the repos
[16:51] <julie29> seronis: nothing there :(
[16:51] <julie29> MonkeyDust: i know!
[16:52] <julie29> seronis: what do i do? i really need help with this
[16:53] <b80905> how do i install proprietary nvidia drivers?
[16:53] <seronis> what files are you trying to edit?  configuration?   google says   ~/.config/sublime-text-2
[16:54] <seronis> julie29: i dont use sublime FYI.  so im limited to suggested the 'normal' locations that programs place files
[16:54] <julie29> seronis: yes, but shouldn't i be able to find SOMETHING when searching for "sublime"?
[16:55] <julie29> seronis: how do i search ALL FILES?
[16:58] <heath> i made the mistake of clicking "install youtube" in firefox.. now i want this ubuntu-specific app to go away... but i'm unsure what the name of the app is, and i'm wondering if any of you know its name?
[16:59] <rajeev> join ubuntu-classroom
[16:59] <julie29> seronis: HELLO?!
[16:59] <SolarisB1y> julie29: 'sudo updatedb && locate sublime'
[16:59] <julie29> SolarisB1y: thank you!
[16:59] <heath> rajeev: was that directed toward me?...
[16:59] <SolarisB1y> julie29: your welcome.
[17:00] <handuel> heath: you mean you allowed youtube to intergrate to your desktop? See here http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F166655%2Fhow-do-i-remove-a-website-from-ubuntus-web-applications&ei=_TOmUe6aEYmm0wWIoIHYDA&usg=AFQjCNHaR5u9NyZSoJTzPkwRlbBftmts5Q&sig2=ACRrKYT0BStlJq4mpdwRYQ&bvm=bv.47008514,d.d2k&cad=rja
[17:00] <heath> handuel: ty sir
[17:01] <adamk> julie29: No one is required to answer your questions, and most people do not just idle on here waiting for questions. Maybe if you explained what you are trying to do again, someone else could jump in if seronis is unable to answer now.
[17:02] <adamk> Oh, looks like you got an answer already :-)
[17:02] <hacktus0> Can you help me please. I forget my pass root
[17:02] <hacktus0> ?
[17:02] <hacktus0> Can you help me please. I forget my pass root
[17:02] <SolarisB1y> yea julie29 there is probably a more accurate way to find whatever your looking for but that will do it too - but if you explain a little what you want more people can help ya
[17:03] <julie29> adamk: yes, sorry
[17:03] <julie29> SolarisB1y: no, you helped me a lot. i found just what i was looking for!
[17:03] <SolarisB1y> cool beans ;>
[17:03] <julie29> another question: how do i save changes to a file that needs special permissions?
[17:03] <seronis> julie29: one thing to keep in mind is linux uses a different file organization than Windows.  So 'find files' isnt very specific.  Binaries (executables) go in a different place than documents. Plugins are usually installed in a similar place as configuration files which are in the users home directory
[17:03] <handuel> hacktus0: you set a root password? Not clever, or do you mean your only sudo account
[17:04] <bazhang> hacktus0, there is no root pass
[17:04] <julie29> seronis: thanks and sorry for yelling at you :)
[17:04] <SolarisB1y> julie29: what type of file and do you mean it's owned by another user so you need to use sudo to modify it?
[17:04] <genii-around> hacktus0: There is no root password. Ubuntu uses sudo instead to root-type things
[17:04] <YokoBR> julie29, caps lock means yelling on the internet :B
[17:04] <YokoBR> lol
[17:04] <SolarisB1y> julie29: if the case is the latter - just open the file in an editor that was started with privileges and save it the same way - 'sudo vim' 'gksudo gedit'
[17:04] <julie29> SolarisB1y: no, i'm the only user, and this is what it says "you don't have the permissions to save the file!"
[17:05] <SolarisB1y> julie29: what file/ where is it?
[17:05] <handuel> hacktus0: to reset a password boot into recovery mode (hold shift at boot to access grub menu), then select remount file systems from the menu, and then select root terminal, and type passwd USERNAMETORESETPASSSWORDFOR
[17:05] <DocPlatypus> hacktus0: and if you really need a root shell, 'sudo -s' but that's advised against
[17:05] <SolarisB1y> julie29: under the same pretense the file may be in a location not writeable by your user (theres always more users than 1 on linux - or should be)
[17:05] <julie29> SolarisB1y: give me a minute
[17:05] <SolarisB1y> julie29: so under the same solution use sudo or gksudo to elevate your privs
[17:05] <SolarisB1y> ok.
[17:06] <seronis> julie29: the file wasnt opened with the proper permissions so its in read-only mode.  close it out and reopen as solar suggested  (gksudo gedit [filename])
[17:06] <julie29> seronis: yes, hold on :)
[17:06] <SolarisB1y> lol
[17:07] <hacktus0> handuel I did it but it write sorry /etc/shadow is lock
[17:07] <seronis> SolarisB1y: btw, any idea how I can get  'gksudo gedit' to stop opening a dummy untitled doc ?
[17:07] <SolarisB1y> seronis: pass the document name you want to open as an argument to it
[17:07] <seronis> yup.. do that.  and it opens properly
[17:07] <SolarisB1y> hrmm weird
[17:07] <julie29> SolarisB1y: seronis: it worked! thanks! :)
[17:07] <seronis> AND a 2nd tab is also created with an unsaved untitled doc
[17:08] <handuel> seronis: it's a none bug, gnome team refuse to fix it
[17:08] <SolarisB1y> if there isn't an option that sounds like a bug seronis
[17:08] <SolarisB1y> atleast imho..
[17:08] <SolarisB1y> seronis: meaning if there isn't some CLI arg to make it stop that - sounds buggish behaviour
[17:08] <seronis> handuel: oddly enough if i 'forget' to use gksudo and just use sudo,  gedit will yell at me but not open a 2nd window
[17:08] <handuel> seronis: apparently "they don't design gnome apps to be run as root"
[17:08] <julie29> SolarisB1y: yet another question... i got a warning message in terminal and i accidently closed the terminal window before reading it. how can i get it back?
[17:09] <handuel> seronis: if you use "gksudo gksudo gedit" it also doens't happen, I've just got an alias set up for gksudo-gedit
[17:09] <SolarisB1y> julie29: depends on where the message came from. Was it a reply to some command? if so you could recreate by retyping the command in a new terminal
[17:09] <seronis> handuel:  that..  ..  *facepalms*
[17:09] <SolarisB1y> julie29: ofcourse you should filter whatever it is- like you dont want to do dangerous things twice and thrice =)
[17:10] <SolarisB1y> julie29: depending on your history setup you may be able to type 'history' and get a clue as to what you did
[17:10] <seronis> handuel:  didnt know that would fix it..  now time to edit my bashrc
[17:10] <julie29> SolarisB1y: i guess it was after using "sudo ghex", but i tried it again and no warning
[17:10] <SolarisB1y> possible
[17:10] <handuel> seronis: don't know why the gnome team can't be bothered to patch it, I mean it's not like anyone ever wants to use a gui tool to edit files as root
[17:10] <seronis> but i think i'll just use  gkedit for the alias
[17:11] <SolarisB1y> vim works for me
[17:11] <SolarisB1y> brb
[17:11] <julie29> now for a question i'm almost too scared to ask: why is the a text document in my home folder named "cracked"? :/
[17:11] <seronis> SolarisB1y:  wasd and ijkl navigation in text files doesnt work with my brain
[17:11] <seronis> julie29: no idea.  what text file ?
[17:12] <julie29> seronis: in home, there's an empty text file named "cracked" :/
[17:13] <handuel> julie29: Just delete it, it can't do anything
[17:13] <julie29> handuel: but why is it there?
[17:13] <handuel> julie29: when did you first notice it?
[17:13] <seronis> something you installed created it. you have a bittorrent copy of a paid program maybe?
[17:14] <julie29> seronis: no, installed ubuntu earlier today :)
[17:14] <vinu> Hi all, i am getting this error while trying to mount any of the drives "Error mounting /dev/sda6 at /media/vinu/VINU'S: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda6" "/media/vinu/VINU'S"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
[17:14] <vinu> Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
[17:14] <vinu> Failed to mount '/dev/sda6': Operation not permitted
[17:14] <vinu> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[17:14] <vinu> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[17:14] <FloodBot1> vinu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:14] <vinu> read-only with the 'ro' mount option."
[17:14] <julie29> handuel: some hour ago
[17:14] <julie29> seronis: the whole point of me installing ubuntu was to "feel safer", so i would never do that
[17:15] <handuel> julie29, have you run any scripts recently
[17:15] <DocPlatypus> vinu: you need to check the filesystem like it says before trying to mount it
[17:15] <julie29> handuel: some basic terminal commands, but no scripts? :/
[17:15] <seronis> julie29: well its safely ignorable.  its likely the output file of something you have run.  if its empty dont worry about it
[17:15] <vinu> no problem with filesystem
[17:15] <seronis> and a lot of terminal commands can be scripts
[17:16] <handuel> julie29: and from the terminal what is the output of lsof $HOME/cracked
[17:16] <vinu> i am able to open it in windows
[17:16] <handuel> just to check no process is doing anything
[17:16] <julie29> handuel: let me check
[17:16] <julie29> handuel: it just returns with user@PC:~$
[17:17] <handuel> julie29: that means no process is using it
[17:17] <K1lleD> hello guys, i have hp dv6-2010eq laptop(2x2ghz processor, 4gb ram, ATI radeon 4530HD 512MB video), and i was with 12.04 and i update to 12.10, now everything work good. I have a quest, is good idea to update 13.04, i try 13.04 in livecd and work really slow - i dont know why. Or i go stay 12.10 ?
[17:17] <handuel> I guess at some point "touch cracked" or >cracked got run
[17:17] <julie29> handuel: properties says "/home/user" is that $HOME/?
[17:18] <handuel> julie29: yes, the $HOME environment variable holds the current users home folder
[17:18] <handuel> well holds the path to it sorry
[17:18] <julie29> handuel: i see. well, i know i've never used "touch cracked" or ">cracked"!
[17:18] <boggle> sdfsdf
[17:19] <handuel> julie29: if you say accidently tried to run a python script with bash, (I do this a lot), it can create all kinds of odd files
[17:19] <vinu> please help
[17:19] <julie29> handuel: but "cracked" sounds so malicious! :(
[17:19] <handuel> julie29: I'd say it's nothing to worry about, probably just a mistyped command that you never noticed at the time
[17:20] <K1lleD> hello guys, i have hp dv6-2010eq laptop(2x2ghz processor, 4gb ram, ATI radeon 4530HD 512MB video), and i was with 12.04 and i update to 12.10, now everything work good. I have a quest, is good idea to update 13.04, i try 13.04 in livecd and work really slow - i dont know why. Or i go stay 12.10 ?
[17:20] <K1lleD> ??
[17:20] <julie29> handuel: i sure hope so
[17:20] <Myrtti> K1lleD: live cd's are always slow.
[17:21] <K1lleD> mhm.. is better upgrade to 13.04 or 12.10 stay?
[17:21] <handuel> julie29: also just check when it was last modified
[17:22] <julie29> handuel: accessed 18:30:58 and modified 18:20:51 :/
[17:22] <Guest25659> hello
[17:22] <handuel> julie29: how long ago was that? Sorry I've not had those times yet :D
[17:22] <julie29> handuel: accessed 18:30:58 and modified 18:29:51* and that's about one hour ago
[17:22] <Guest25659> :>/
[17:23] <handuel> julie29: what user has permissions to it and owns it?
[17:23] <julie29> handuel: me r/w, user r/w, others r
[17:24] <handuel> julie29: that's incredibly reassruring, means it must have been created by one of your processes, so not root, so whatever made it can't harm your computer
[17:25] <julie29> handuel: YES! thanks! :)
[17:25] <seronis> K1lleD: if you're happy with what you got then no need to change. I only installed a month ago so 13.04 (xfce) is what I got and i've had no problems
[17:25] <seronis> similar stats on laptop
[17:25] <BobJonkman> I'm trying to log in to a 13.04 computer that's displaying the time and date, with a flashing arrow to suggest that I pull up the screen to reveal the login prompt. However, I have no mouse. Is there a keystroke sequence I can use?
[17:26] <isasha> o hai
[17:26] <K1lleD> seronis: i had only problems with video driver, and i didnt install some driver, i stay with built
[17:26] <handuel> BobJonkman, press enter or escape
[17:26] <julie29> handuel: it would be typical me to get hacked within hours of installing ubuntu :p
[17:26] <isasha> I'm setting up a VPN on my home server, so that I can connect to my local network remotel
[17:26] <sere> do i need my system reserved partition when dual booting with ubuntu
[17:26] <isasha> I was following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN#Setting_up_a_Bridged_VPN_using_OpenVPN but it's not very clear
[17:27] <Guest25659> jesus walks again
[17:27] <handuel> julie29: well you can't get viruses, and (I guess at least) the chances of someone deciding to randomly hack you is low
[17:27] <Guest25659> gotz to be going'
[17:27] <isasha> my /etc/network/interfaces looks quite different
[17:27] <SolarisB1y> oh random hacks are high lol based on my ssh logs on my router - but they rarely if ever will work
[17:28] <isasha> anyone know how to set this up?
[17:28] <julie29> handuel: it's not like i'm not careful or paranoid (because i really am), luck is just never with me
[17:28] <BobJonkman> Thanx handuel!  I've been trying uparrow, ALT+uparrow, PageUp, &c.  The screen moves up about 10% then falls down again, so I thought I might not be holding them down long enough, or something.
[17:28] <SolarisB1y> just bruteforcing maniacs
[17:28] <julie29> i'm extremely unlucky
[17:28] <BobJonkman> I think there needs to be a better hint on that screensaver...
[17:28] <handuel> BobJonkman: it's fine, I hate that new lock screen, quite clearly designed for touch screen, and absolutely no indication as to how to use with keyboard
[17:30] <zephyr28> Anyone know of a simple way to burn over 100 GB of data to multiple DVD-Rs?
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> zephyr28  simple depends on your skills -- rsync is pretty fast
[17:31] <zephyr28> MonkeyDust, as I stare at your suggestion with a blank expression, my lack of skill becomes self-evident.
[17:33] <rajeev> join #ubuntu-classroom
[17:33] <kerosene> nou
[17:33] <BobJonkman> Now I'm trying to select one of the names on the login screen.  There's no indication for what name has focus, and so far no combination of Enter, Tab, ALT+Tab, ESCape, up/downarrow, pageup/down has done anything...
[17:37] <llutz> zephyr28: it won't be fun and you need some spare space on a disk: tar all your data into one big tar-archive (tar cf mydata.tar /100G-of-data). Then split that archive in chunks to fit on dvd-r (split -b 4470m -d mydata.tar). Burn those files to dvd-r.
[17:38] <zephyr28> llutz, hmm, I suppose that could work
[17:39] <llutz> zephyr28: easier to buy a xxTB harddisk and copy the backup-data to it. dvd isn't really usefull to backup huge amounts of data
[17:39] <BobJonkman> OK, I've borrowed a mouse, clicked on a name, and now I get the password entry field.  I press ESCape, and there's an outline indicating focus.
[17:40] <BobJonkman> But there seems to be no way to get focus on the login screen without using a mouse.
[17:40] <llutz> zephyr28: and since dvd are organic, i wouldn't store anything valuable on it for a long time
[17:40] <BobJonkman> This looks to be the GNOME login screen, not the Unity login screen...
[17:42] <pgrytdal> Is there an Ubuntu One IRC chat where I can request support
[17:42] <bazhang> #ubuntuone
[17:42] <pgrytdal> Thanks
[17:43] <decci> Hi anyone who have experience with alien
[17:43] <decci> I have dell dtk packages which is composed of 11 RPms. I converted 9 of them into deb but the two are showing error
[17:44] <decci> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714075/
[17:44] <Guest25659> hi deccciu
[17:44] <decci> How to fix it
[17:44] <Guest25659> alien
[17:44] <Guest25659> then aight
[17:45] <decci> Guest25659: dpkg-deb: error: conffile `/opt/dell/srvadmin/var/log/openmanage/dcsys32.xml' does not appear in package dh_builddeb: dpkg-deb --build debian/srvadmin-deng .. returned exit code 2 make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1
[17:45] <duckxx> whats the shortcut key to go back one word.. right now i just know ctrl-b that only goes back 1 character
[17:45] <iPenguin> Hello.
[17:46] <Guest25659> hello penguin
[17:46] <Guest25659> penguin
[17:46] <Guest25659> hello
[17:46] <llutz> duckxx: ctrl-right
[17:46] <Guest25659> hi
[17:46] <zheoffec> hi
[17:46] <Guest25659> pengy
[17:46] <llutz> duckxx: ctrl-left   of course
[17:46] <Guest25659> ping ping ping ping
[17:47] <bazhang> !ot | Guest25659
[17:47] <llutz> Guest25659: do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[17:47] <Eagleman7> Is there a way to skip making the mysqldump file and remove it after it is encrypted?  http://hpaste.org/88833
[17:47] <Guest25659> sipppin periea sipok on ping pong
[17:47] <bazhang> Guest25659, stop that
[17:47] <Guest25659> sorrry]
[17:47] <Guest25659> \
[17:47] <umpadump12>  hi, I have a question concerning the group-concept in linux. If I run id, I see that my primary group is "abc", but when I look at all the members of that
[17:47] <umpadump12>                     group via "getent group abc", my username is not displayed. How come?
[17:48] <ThE_AnDr01D> whois ThE_AnDr01D
[17:48] <iPenguin> I have a ubuntu support related question.
[17:49] <zheoffec> iPenguin: what is that question?
[17:49] <llutz> umpadump12: "abc" is a user-group? those aren't shown
[17:49] <umpadump12> @llutz, abc=users; I was just using a random name
[17:49] <iPenguin> I am a windows xp user and it has dodged, i am deciding to get ubuntu put onto the system but is it worth it? Is it a slow operating system?
[17:49] <umpadump12> I might have to add that I am using ldap to manage multiple computers
[17:50] <wNz> iPenguin: wat
[17:50] <zheoffec> iPenguin: is it worth it: yes, is it slow: no
[17:50] <iPenguin> Will ubuntu work on a acer aspire one laptop?
[17:50] <zheoffec> iPenguin: yes
[17:50] <wNz> iPenguin: : http://www.zdnet.com/anonymous-msft-developer-admits-linux-is-faster-than-windows-7000015236/
[17:50] <llutz> iPenguin: it did on my aao531h
[17:50] <Eagleman7> Is there a way to skip making the mysqldump file and remove it after it is encrypted?  http://hpaste.org/88833
[17:51] <iPenguin> I do not have a disk drive, does this mean i cannot install it?
[17:51] <zheoffec> what have you installed xp on?
[17:51] <umpadump12> iPenguin, you can try it from an usb drive
[17:52] <iPenguin> I have no usb
[17:52] <matu> you can install ubuntu from usb stick if it is supported by your computer
[17:52] <Lars1> hello
[17:52] <matu> -it is
[17:52] <matu> sorry for my bad english
[17:53] <zheoffec> Lars1: question?
[17:54] <matu> no usb no cdrom iPenguin ?
[17:55] <Lars1> Hello
[17:55] <iPenguin> Matu: English please?
[17:55] <zheoffec> that was english
[17:55] <matu> dont you have any cdrom iPenguin ?
[17:56] <matu> how did you install windows on your computer ?
[17:56] <Guest25659> hi ping pengy didnt meam to insult u
[17:56] <julie29> handuel: i can't stop thinking of this damn file
[17:57] <handuel> julie29: I know the feeling: I once spent all day panicing because a google search result got redirected to a dodgy website
[17:57] <jockey4her> after a fresh install from Win8, on reboot, I get windows boot manager, select os, wubildr.mbr 0xc000007b
[17:58] <handuel> julie29: turns out it was a bug in the websites forum software
[17:58] <handuel> julie29: if anything else odd happens now, but I'm certain it's fine
[17:58] <julie29> handuel: yikes! but i'm really worried about it being named "cracked"! why must it have that name?!
[17:58] <julie29> handuel: it's like the intruder is taunting me
[17:59] <handuel> julie29: what intruder :D
[17:59] <julie29> handuel: the one that's inside my head :(
[18:00] <handuel> julie29: run ps -aux would you, and see if any odd processes are running, if there aren't I can almost garuntee you're fine
[18:00] <handuel> I have to go now sorry bbs
[18:00] <julie29> handuel: there's like 75387398274288456325265867493298346 possible names for a file, but it decided to go with "cracked"
[18:00] <julie29> handuel: thanks and see you later?
[18:01] <c3vin> I've just run lynis
[18:02] <c3vin> and it's reporting expired certs
[18:02] <c3vin> I'm assuming it's self signed, but would like to review
[18:02] <zheoffec> julie29: much more than 7538739827428845632526586749329834
[18:02] <c3vin> what is best way to show installed certs + expire date
[18:02] <julie29> zheoffec: whatever! :)
[18:03] <DarthExpeditor> Hey guys, I have a problem with my Ubuntu. It shows that my main drive is almost full (99%). Its a 3TB drive. Additionally when I look at the directory totals my home folder is supposedly using 2.6TB but the totals don't even come close.
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> DarthExpeditor  there's a hidden .Trash1000 folder, delete that
[18:04] <zheoffec> DarthExpeditor: open disk usage analiser
[18:04] <flintser> just wondering how a 2.6tb home is possible
[18:04] <zheoffec> MonkeyDust: i thought .trash1000 was only used in fat* fss?
[18:04] <DarthExpeditor> The disk usage analyzer is how I determined that the percentages don't add up.
[18:04] <zheoffec> flintser: why not
[18:04] <DarthExpeditor> Let me check for the trash thing.
[18:05] <zheoffec> DarthExpeditor: how did you reach that conclusion
[18:05] <DarthExpeditor> I'll screenshot it.
[18:06] <DarthExpeditor> no trash folder.
[18:07] <zheoffec> DarthExpeditor: the prefix '.' means it's a hidden folder, so show hidden folders in nautilus with ctrl+H
[18:08] <flintser> zheoffec: i cant think of 2.6tb of stuff. that is like over 2000 sd movies or half a million pictures
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> DarthExpeditor  in a terminal, type this line           find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[18:09] <zheoffec> flintser: what else will you allocate that space to? /etc?
[18:10] <nsfx> Hello, where might I find up to date instructions for patching the kernel? I followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel but I ended up with only 1 deb file
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> nsfx  ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[18:10] <zheoffec> nsfx: install it with `dpkg -i *.deb`?
[18:11] <zheoffec> * = .deb file
[18:11] <DarthExpeditor> zheoffec, I generally don't look for things in the GUI
[18:11] <DarthExpeditor> I checked for it in a terminal window. And yes I checked all the hidden files.
[18:11] <flintser> zheoffec: i mean that the space is full. i make /data for big files and stuff like that, and / is for else
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> DarthExpeditor  did you execute the command I suggested?
[18:11] <DarthExpeditor> http://zachbriggs.name/ubuntu/ss1.png
[18:11] <flintser> zheoffec: so it is two partitions
[18:12] <DarthExpeditor> I must have been in another window when you posted it Monkey
[18:12] <DarthExpeditor> What was it?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> DarthExpeditor  in a terminal, type this line           find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[18:12] <zheoffec> flintser: /data will be in the / heirarchy so its basically contained in / anyway..?
[18:13] <Afteraffekt> Ubuntu Live Boot is stuck at initrd.lz... any ideas whats wrong?
[18:13] <nsfx> Thanks MonkeyDust zheoffec
[18:13] <flintser> zheoffec: but two partitions, the another one is just mounted to /data
[18:13] <DarthExpeditor> let me know when you guys are done with that screenshot so I can remove it.
[18:14] <zheoffec> DarthExpeditor: i didnt see that screenshot
[18:14] <Lars1> can i upgrade from linux 14.1 to 15?
[18:14] <DarthExpeditor>  find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[18:14] <DarthExpeditor> LOL
[18:14] <DarthExpeditor> http://zachbriggs.name/ubuntu/ss1.png
[18:15] <zheoffec> Lars1: there is no linux 14.1
[18:15] <Lars1> linux mint 14.1 to 15
[18:15] <DJones> !mint | Lars1
[18:15] <DarthExpeditor> HOLY SHIT!
[18:15] <DarthExpeditor> -rw------- 1 zbriggs zbriggs 1.7T May 29 11:37 /home/zbriggs/.xsession-errors.old
[18:15] <FloodBot1> DarthExpeditor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:15] <DarthExpeditor> -rw------- 1 zbriggs zbriggs 1.7T May 29 11:37 /home/zbriggs/.xsession-errors.old
[18:16] <DarthExpeditor> Is it safe to just blow that file away?
[18:16] <zheoffec> yes
[18:16] <zheoffec> lol that file is huge
[18:16] <DarthExpeditor> Yeah, WTF
[18:16] <zheoffec> youve got some dodgy setup with X there...
[18:17] <zheoffec> maybe lightdm
[18:17] <DarthExpeditor> what's a quick way to zero that file without deleting it?
[18:17] <zheoffec> DarthExpeditor: why would you want do do that?
[18:17] <DarthExpeditor> echo null > filename?
[18:18] <DarthExpeditor> I want to see if it fills right back up
[18:18] <DarthExpeditor> I just killed it. Screw it.
[18:18] <zheoffec> DarthExpeditor: dd if=/dev/zero of=$FILENAME
[18:18] <flintser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714176/ you can use that to get rid of it forever. but then if you need that log it wont be there
[18:19] <zheoffec> although im not sure if that would run forever or not...
[18:19] <DarthExpeditor> We're good!
[18:19] <llutz> DarthExpeditor: >filename           to zero it
[18:19] <DarthExpeditor> what the heck
[18:19] <DarthExpeditor> I need to find what caused it.
[18:20] <zheoffec> DarthExpeditor: you should have checked that log first lol
[18:20] <llutz> DarthExpeditor: then you should have inspected it _before_ deleting it
[18:20] <flintser> look at the errors and if theyre something not important you can just zero it
[18:20] <zheoffec> bye guys i may{,not} be back in 5 mins
[18:21] <DarthExpeditor> I have a sample from the file.
[18:22] <flintser> DarthExpeditor: if you put that script i pasted to startup, the log will be zeroed and removed always
[18:22] <DarthExpeditor> I saved it before I axed it.
[18:22] <flintser> DarthExpeditor: paste?
[18:22] <DarthExpeditor> standby
[18:23] <DarthExpeditor> I'm working on the system remotely so its a bit kludgy.
[18:24] <umpadump12> exit
[18:25] <DarthExpeditor> and the internet at my office just dropped. :/
[18:25] <TheUsD> Is there much difference to destop and server ubuntu other than certain "normal" server software features?
[18:26] <handuel> TheUsD: just different preinstalled software yh
[18:26] <handuel> TheUsD: server doesn't have any GUI
[18:26] <TheUsD> handuel: you mean pre-installed GUI, right?
[18:27] <handuel> TheUsD: I mean an XServer when you boot the server you are presented with a command line
[18:27] <TheUsD> handuel: trackin.
[18:28] <handuel> TheUsD: what do you mean by trackin?
[18:28] <TheUsD> handuel: reason why I am asking, is because I would like to find a 101 guid to either server or desktop and wanted to know if I need to find a specific guide.     trackin=following.
[18:29] <TheUsD> handuel: old military term.
[18:29] <handuel> TheUsD: Ah ok, sure
[18:29] <flintser> TheUsD: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3m
[18:29] <flintser> that is pretty much step by step
[18:29] <py_can> I cannot get my second OS in grub... I installed Arch at /dev/sda2 and its swap at /dev/sda3. Ubuntu is on /dev/sda1/. When I run update-grub in Ubuntu, it doesnt detect /dev/sda2. How can I add it?
[18:30] <TheUsD> flinster: page not found :(
[18:30] <flintser> remove the m at the end
[18:30] <flintser> mistake
[18:30] <flintser> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3
[18:30] <TheUsD> flinster: thanks
[18:32] <TheUsD> All: I currently have server with GUI so this link would pretand to me yes?   (I've been a ubuntu user for only a few days now.
[18:34] <vexati0n> In Ubuntu, how do I determine the MEID and mobile number associated with my laptop's built-in Verizon aircard?
[18:35] <Atlantic777> Hi guys! I've got a Windows 7 installation here and lubuntu installed after it. Now, grub doesn't get that there's windows too.
[18:35] <Atlantic777> It's lubuntu 12.04.
[18:35] <Atlantic777> And windows 7 ultimate. During intsallation, lubuntu installer asks me if I want to import some user preferences from windows (bookmarks etc) but there's not windows entry in grub.
[18:35] <flintser> the guide installs a new 12.04 ubuntu server. you can use parts of the guide for example setting up LAMP if you have a os installed already. you can do this with gui or desktop versions also. but i recommend following the guide from beginning if you arent so experienced amd want to setup a server.
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> Atlantic777  does it show windows in the list?
[18:36] <Atlantic777> MonkeyDust: nope...
[18:36] <matanya> Atlantic777: what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> Atlantic777  maybe this is useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[18:37] <Atlantic777> MonkeyDust: I want to add it manually, but I'm lost in this grub 2 config. I did it with older GRUB versions.
[18:37] <Afteraffekt> Do I have to have a hardrive to run Ubuntu Live?
[18:37] <matanya> no Afteraffekt
[18:38] <Afteraffekt> I cant get a single live OS distro to boot
[18:38] <Afteraffekt> i have a kernel panic not syncing message on my screen now
[18:38] <Atlantic777> matanya: you are probably interested in grub.cfg file, and here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714241/
[18:38] <Atlantic777> MonkeyDust: I'll check that one, thanks.
[18:38] <matanya> Atlantic777: yes, i meant. thanks
[18:38] <kinesis> I'm trying to install some software and it's telling me to add a PPA, did that, now it's telling me to use two commands the system doesn't have: deb and deb-src
[18:39] <Afteraffekt> Please append a correct root= boot option; here are the available partitions, and it lists nothing
[18:39] <Atlantic777> MonkeyDust: sorry, I think that it doesn't help.
[18:39] <matanya> Atlantic777: you don't have the windows entry there
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> kinesis  a ppa is an external software source, careful with it
[18:39] <Atlantic777> ManneW: yeah, I know.
[18:40] <matanya> Atlantic777: did you install windows after linux?
[18:40] <ManneW> Atlantic777: Not sure if that was really meant for me ;)
[18:40] <flintser> Afteraffekt: it may be problem with the media. usb or dvd?
[18:40] <Afteraffekt> flintser, USB, using Yumi
[18:40] <Atlantic777> matanya: no, the windows is installed first.
[18:40] <Afteraffekt> Ive tried 3 ISOs
[18:40] <kinesis> MonkeyDUst: what are the 'deb' and 'deb-src' commands?
[18:40] <Atlantic777> ManneW: sorry.
[18:40] <Atlantic777> MonkeyDust: yeah, I know.
[18:41] <ManneW> Atlantic777: No problem at all! :)
[18:41] <flintser> Afreraffekt: try LiLi, it has always worked for me. unetbootin has made corrupt live usb for me once. i have no experience for yumi
[18:41] <matanya> Atlantic777: you can add it in /etc/grub.d and run grub-update
[18:41] <Atlantic777> matanya: ok, but I need grub 2 example.
[18:41] <Afteraffekt> Lili? hmm ill check it
[18:42] <matanya> Atlantic777: you have it in the /etc/grub.d directory
[18:42] <Atlantic777> matanya: ok, let me see.
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> kinesis  don't knwo them as commands
[18:42] <Afteraffekt> flintser, should I try another usb drive or should it be fine/
[18:42] <matanya> Atlantic777: and the command is update-grub
[18:43] <Atlantic777> matanya: sorry, no windows examples in /etc/grub.d
[18:43] <matanya> Atlantic777: you can use the 40_custom file.
[18:43] <xande> hello brazil
[18:44] <alvarezp> Hey guys, does anybody know how can I get the debugging symbols for libgweather-3-1 and libgweather-common, both 3.6.2-0ubuntu1 for amd64 in 13.04 (Raring)?
[18:44] <flintser> Afteraffekt: just google lili and it is first link. remember to format the usb to blank and you should be fine. lili has the option for that. if you have an usb with cruzer u3 or something, then remove it
[18:45] <matanya> Atlantic777: menuentry "Windows" {
[18:45] <matanya> set root=(hd0,3)
[18:45] <matanya> chainloader +1
[18:45] <matanya> }
[18:46] <Atlantic777> matanya: and I add it to that custom file?
[18:46] <matanya> adjust the root to your device with sudo fdisk -l
[18:46] <matanya> yes
[18:46] <matanya> i guess it is something like sd0
[18:47] <matanya> *hd0,0
[18:47] <matanya> not sd
[18:48] <Afteraffekt> flintser, its asking for something called persistance?
[18:48] <Atlantic777> matanya: it's counting partition from 0 or 1? I know that it's different than sdx...
[18:48] <kinesis> what are the 'deb' and 'deb-src' commmands? how do I get them??
[18:48] <iceroot> Atlantic777: 0
[18:48] <Atlantic777> matanya: it's sda3 in /dev
[18:48] <matanya> grub2 numbers its partitions starting at 1. there is no "(hd0,0)"
[18:48] <trism> alvarezp: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/libg/libgweather/
[18:49] <matanya> grub legacy counted from 0
[18:49] <flintser> Afteraffekt: persistence is that you can use the usb as hd for the live, so that if you save a document on live it wont be lost on shutdown
[18:49] <alvarezp> thanks, trism!
[18:49] <Atlantic777> matanya: ok, I'm rebooting...
[18:49] <flintser> Afteraffekt: you dont need it if you dont want
[18:49] <iceroot> matanya: hd device, partitoon  sda1 will be hd0,0  sda2 will be 0,1  sdb1 will be hd1,0
[18:49] <iceroot> matanya:  was it changed in grub2?
[18:49] <matanya> Atlantic777: did you set it to the windows partition?
[18:49] <llutz> iceroot: it was
[18:50] <matanya> yes iceroot
[18:50] <iceroot> matanya: llutz ah ok, then ignore my comment :)
[18:50] <alvarezp> trism, what is that repo?
[18:50] <kinesis> what are the 'deb' and 'deb-src' commmands? how do I get them??
[18:50] <llutz> iceroot: with grub2, drives start at 0, partitions at 1. very logical those grub-guys ... (whatever they smoke)
[18:51] <iceroot> llutz: and grub2 is grub 1.9x :) to continue with logic :)
[18:51] <duckxx> whats the shortcut key to go back one word.. right now i just know ctrl-b that only goes back 1 character
[18:51] <llutz> iceroot: well, grub and logic = oxymoron
[18:52] <matanya> iceroot, llutz you can move to kernel based booting if you have uefi
[18:52] <llutz> matanya: i did, long time ago
[18:52] <matanya> or goomiboot
[18:52] <matanya> llutz: was it painful?
[18:52] <llutz> matanya: not at all
[18:52] <matanya> short guide?
[18:53] <matanya> i did it on arch, didn't try on ubuntu
[18:53] <llutz> matanya: but i don't dualboot or such. just booting a plain debian-kernel
[18:53] <matanya> me too
[18:54] <vexati0n> In Ubuntu, how do I determine the MEID and mobile number associated with my laptop's built-in Verizon aircard?
[18:55] <jockey4her> i am having installation trouble.
[18:55] <llutz> matanya:make sure to have a fat16 efi-partition mounted at /boot/efi, put your kernel/initrd there, then: efibootmgr -c -L  "sid" -l '\EFI\debian\vmlinuz-3.8-13.efi' -u "initrd=\EFI\debian\initrd.img-3.8-13 root=/dev/sda2 quiet irqpoll        is all i needed
[18:55] <flintser> vexati0n: isnt mobile number tied to sim card?
[18:56] <matanya> and how kernel upgrade work llutz ?
[18:56] <llutz> matanya: unfortunately only manual at this point
[18:57] <matanya> as expected
[18:58] <nyc-h0st> guys quick question, how do i allow apache to follow symlinks? apparmor seems to be preventing it, if i remove apparmor it works fine
[18:58] <Braiam> duckxx, ctrl + left arrow?
[18:59] <DexterF> hi
[19:00] <DexterF> radeon 7xxx igp and lts 12.04 - will that work?
[19:00] <sianhulo> hey guys, I have a question. why most of the files are now being run with gedit?I mean, .bin .bundle .sh formatless could be opened witha  double-click after it being marked as executable, now all of them open with gedit and the only way to run them is through console, why is this?
[19:00] <alvarezp> trism, thanks! Valgrind is now reporting correctly.
[19:01] <TheUsD> when in GUI, how do I edit a text with permissions?
[19:01] <Corey> gksudoe
[19:01] <Corey> ER, gksudo rather.
[19:01] <flintser> TheUsD: you cant. you must use terminal to open it
[19:02] <TheUsD> I am wanting to edit my hosts file
[19:02] <trism> alvarezp: no problem, and that repo is just where the debs get copied that contain the stripped out debug syms for packages that don't build a -dbg variant
[19:02] <sianhulo> I think that gksudo no longer comes with ubuntu, it has to b einstalled before
[19:02] <TheUsD> thanks
[19:02] <Corey> flintser: Incorrect.
[19:02] <llutz> TheUsD: gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[19:02] <flintser> ex. gksudo gedit file
[19:02] <matanya> TheUsD: you can add nautilus a open as root context menu
[19:03] <flintser> Corey: how? id like to know how to open /etc/hosts with no terminal or tty at all
[19:03] <matanya> and a tip TheUsD always edit files in the terminal if you can (e.g. vi)
[19:03] <flintser> i mesn edit
[19:03] <flintser> mean*
[19:03] <blenderman_> if i just use the ubuntu default options for sharing
[19:03] <TheUsD> Matanya: why is that?
[19:03] <blenderman_> and give it a really secure password
[19:03] <blenderman_> is it secure enough?
[19:04] <blenderman_> there are options to click share this folder
[19:04] <blenderman_> and share my computer
[19:04] <Corey> flintser: < matanya> TheUsD: you can add nautilus a open as root context menu
[19:04] <matanya> TheUsD: quicker, convenient
[19:05] <TheUsD> Matanya: Ok, just thought it had something to do with security or stability.
[19:05] <iPenguin> Hi, where can i find the ubuntu os for my laptop?
[19:05] <matanya> no, TheUsD the file doesn't care how you edit it
[19:05] <flintser> Corey: how to add that in the right-click menu
[19:05] <matanya> iPenguin: ubuntu.com
[19:06] <blenderman_> How secure are ubuntu sharing options?
[19:06] <Atlantic777> matanya: it says that bootmgr is missing. I'm trying to repair it with windows installation cd...
[19:06] <matanya> flintser: you can add a .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications
[19:06] <Atlantic777> matanya: you got any ideas?
[19:07] <Corey> flintser: "sudo aptitude install nautilus-gksu"
[19:07] <matanya> Atlantic777: you can use the windows cd
[19:07] <iPenguin> I know the site but what i mean is where can i download ubuntu for laptops?
[19:07] <iPenguin> There is only one for desktop on the site.
[19:07] <Atlantic777> matanya: I booted it but...
[19:07] <matanya> iPenguin: it is the same for laptops and desktops
[19:07] <elisa87> I receive omp.h not found in my mounted disk when I chroot and try to compile a c program which uses OpenMP so I decided to install gcc4.4.7 and now I have this problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714332/ Does anyone have any idea?
[19:08] <matanya> elisa87: df -h
[19:08] <matanya> you HD seems to be full
[19:08] <matanya> Atlantic777: but... ?
[19:08] <elisa87> matanya: I have almost nothing inside it! It's an iso which I have mounted on /mnt/opt
[19:08] <Atlantic777> matanya: live cd doesn't see windows installation.
[19:09] <matanya> elisa87: do df -h
[19:09] <elisa87> matanya: df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory
[19:10] <matanya> Atlantic777: where did you point the root in the file i asked you to create?
[19:10] <anew> how do i get last 20 lines of a file?  tail -r 20
[19:10] <matanya> tail -20 anew
[19:10] <Atlantic777> matanya: hd (0, 3), it's /dev/sda3
[19:10] <matanya> no need for -r
[19:10] <anew> filename tail -20
[19:10] <anew> ?
[19:10] <Atlantic777> matanya: it's ok, chainloader is working but windows bootmgr is broken.
[19:10] <matanya> tail -20 filename
[19:10] <anew> awesome thx man
[19:11] <Atlantic777> matanya: I probably have to reinstall windows mbr or bootloader, whatever.
[19:11] <matanya> is the windows boot dir on sda3?
[19:11] <rotham> hey.. does lsof return all currently open files, or is it more of a scanner that is ongoing?  I am running lsof -p {processid} and it takes a really long time and keeps printing stuff out...
[19:11] <Atlantic777> matanya: yes it is.
[19:11] <iPenguin> is there a exe file?
[19:11] <matanya> all of them rotham
[19:11] <Atlantic777> well, let me check again, it should be there.
[19:11] <matanya> iPenguin: no exe in linux
[19:12] <matanya> it should be a 100mb part or so Atlantic777
[19:12] <iPenguin> Well how can i download it when i do not have a usb and i cbb to buy one
[19:12] <anew> matanya what about if i want to write the last 20 lines to another file? i dont want to read it in the terminal window, i'd rather oopen it in a txt editor
[19:12] <matanya> iPenguin: use a cd
[19:12] <rotham> matanaya:  is there a way to get information on how long each one was open?  I'm trying to debug a program im writing, which I think is leaking file handles...
[19:12] <iPenguin> We never have empty cds
[19:12] <matanya> tail -20 filename > newfile anew
[19:12] <anew> sweet thx
[19:13] <SolarisB1y> matanya: lsof may help you there
[19:13] <SolarisB1y> oops that was for rotham ;<
[19:13] <matanya> what SolarisB1y said :)
[19:13] <iPenguin> What's a ubuntu server?
[19:13] <rotham> SolarisBly: yeah im using lsof.. trying to figure out howto read it I guess :P
[19:13] <matanya> ubuntu version for servers iPenguin
[19:14] <rotham> ill google around
[19:14] <matanya> rotham: man lsof
[19:14] <SolarisB1y> rotham: you can point lsof at pids as well or use bash substitution to dynamically monitor a pid
[19:14] <SolarisB1y> but yes like matanya best source of info - man
[19:14] <rotham> oh
[19:14] <rotham> thx
[19:14] <SolarisB1y> lsof -p $(pidof myapp)
[19:14] <iPenguin> What type of servers?
[19:14] <Afteraffekt> flintser, its now saying udevd [115]: timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sdc1' [447]
[19:15] <matanya> iPenguin: computer servers
[19:15] <sardar_khalsa> hi all....
[19:15] <sardar_khalsa> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:15] <sardar_khalsa> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:16] <sardar_khalsa> how do i resolve this?
[19:16] <SolarisB1y> got another process running locking it sardar_khalsa ?
[19:16] <sardar_khalsa> yepp...
[19:16] <SolarisB1y> or ensure to use proper sudo'ing sardar_khalsa
[19:16] <matanya> sardar_khalsa: let it finish
[19:16] <iPenguin> How would i know what bit i have before i can download?
[19:16] <sardar_khalsa> i don't know which process is there?
[19:16] <SolarisB1y> sardar_khalsa: that lock is exclusive one proc can use it a time -
[19:17] <SolarisB1y> sardar_khalsa: a lot of times it's just the gui window open when your trying to run it from cli
[19:17] <handuel> iPenguin: what computer do you have?
[19:17] <matanya> iPenguin: do you have more than 4GB of ram?
[19:17] <SolarisB1y> sardar_khalsa: is the software update app open for you anywhere?
[19:17] <sardar_khalsa> how could i kill that?
[19:17] <matanya> don't kill it, close the windows
[19:17] <sardar_khalsa> ohh yepp...
[19:17] <handuel> iPenguin: or just go for 32bit, that works on anything, and 64bit is only useful if you have greater than 4gb ram
[19:17] <matanya> sardar_khalsa: try ps -ef |grep dpkg
[19:17] <sardar_khalsa> that was a pop up window there...
[19:17] <sardar_khalsa> for software updater....
[19:17] <SolarisB1y> there you go
[19:18] <SolarisB1y> sardar_khalsa: now try your cli again -
[19:18] <matanya> issue solved
[19:18] <sardar_khalsa> oki
[19:18] <SolarisB1y> assuming you closed it =)
[19:18] <Snype_> any of you guys know python scrapy
[19:18] <Snype_> i am facing a very weird issue
[19:18] <SolarisB1y> you mean scapy
[19:18] <SolarisB1y> ?
[19:18] <Snype_> scrapy
[19:18] <SolarisB1y> oh =(
[19:18] <Snype_> scrapy.com
[19:19] <Snype_> its a python framework to scrape websites
[19:19] <SolarisB1y> lol dag python =) they have a scapy as well =) sorry Snype_
[19:19] <matanya> Snype_: try #python
[19:19] <Afteraffekt> anybody know why i am getting that error?
[19:19] <matanya> what error Afteraffekt >
[19:19] <Afteraffekt> udevd [115]: timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sdc1' [447]
[19:19] <Snype_> python
[19:19] <Afteraffekt> I get that when i try to boot Ubuntu
[19:19] <Snype_> cannot send to channel lol
[19:19] <matanya> most likely you have a problem with your HDD Afteraffekt
[19:19] <SolarisB1y> Afteraffekt: whats your /dev/sdc1?
[19:20] <Afteraffekt> I dont know
[19:20] <Afteraffekt> theres no OS on this system
[19:20] <sardar_khalsa> i just installed skype...
[19:20] <DexterF> precise-updates has a package xserver-xorg-video-radeon-lts-quantal -  so that's the quantal-src backported?
[19:20] <sardar_khalsa> via this
[19:20] <SolarisB1y> Afteraffekt: those are udev rules (seemingly) kicking in
[19:20] <sardar_khalsa>         sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[19:20] <sardar_khalsa>         sudo apt-get update
[19:20] <sardar_khalsa>         sudo apt-get install skype && sudo apt-get -f install
[19:20] <FloodBot1> sardar_khalsa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:20] <Afteraffekt> I have a SSD and a Flash Drive plugged in
[19:20] <Afteraffekt> the Flash Drive ya Lili with Ubuntu 13.04 on it
[19:20] <SolarisB1y> udev uses that command on drives for identification and later operatitons Afteraffekt
[19:21] <SolarisB1y> Afteraffekt: you should try and see whats in the output of fdisk -l and see if you can figure out what the drive is
[19:21] <SolarisB1y> it may be a bad usb or even something - but find out what sdc1 is
[19:21] <Afteraffekt> i cant type anything
[19:21] <SolarisB1y> oh
[19:21] <Afteraffekt> this is the code that scrolls during boot
[19:21] <SolarisB1y> pastie
[19:22] <Afteraffekt> I cant copy it
[19:22] <CLI-ubuntist> Hi
[19:22] <Afteraffekt> I can take a picture
[19:22] <CLI-ubuntist> I have a question
[19:22] <sardar_khalsa> hi
[19:22] <SolarisB1y> Afteraffekt: i guess thats fine if you can post it and thats your only option.
[19:22] <CLI-ubuntist> I have an old laptop with a PIII processor and 256MB RAM
[19:23] <CLI-ubuntist> I need to run Ubuntu 12.04 on it
[19:23] <CLI-ubuntist> but I don't need the graphical user interface
[19:23] <SolarisB1y> you can't type - are you at the keyboard/monitor or are you logged in over ssh or something? have you tried to move to a different TTY?
[19:23] <SolarisB1y> Afteraffekt: ^
[19:23] <A1Recon> How do I uninstall a program i installed using a run file??
[19:23] <CLI-ubuntist> will that be possible? Will it be able to run Ubuntu 12.04 in command line mode?
[19:23] <Fleck> try CLI-ubuntist...
[19:23] <SolarisB1y> A1Recon: hope said program has a --uninstall or the like option unless it actually uses dpkg within the run file itself
[19:24] <Afteraffekt> SolarisB1y, i am uploading it
[19:24] <Aspire-Revo-User> Before upgrading to Mint 15 use this backup tool: http://goo.gl/CgwqF
[19:24] <pikaro> hi! is there a quick way to get a bootable ubuntu installation stick when I'm using debian? I'm only finding tons of automatic tools for windows, ubuntu's own start disk creator and manual methods for other linux systems. a friend of mine asked me to give him a stick that installs ubuntu, and I'd be glad if there was a surefire method.
[19:24] <SolarisB1y> pikaro: debootstrap.
[19:24] <pikaro> ok thanks will look into that :)
[19:25] <sardar_khalsa> just installed skype....
[19:25] <sardar_khalsa> but not able to open from files
[19:25] <CLI-ubuntist> How can I boot from CD into command-line mode?
[19:25] <King-Kong> Hello !
[19:25] <SolarisB1y> pikaro: there is another one called live-build - and then you can make that stick a device root in KVM and run a normal OS install like that also -
[19:25] <SolarisB1y> pikaro: so thats 3 ways
[19:25] <DexterF> CLI-ubuntist: ubuntu server. special image
[19:25] <SolarisB1y> pikaro: you may be interested in looking at live-build if your on debian, it's available for ubuntu but it's maintained by teh debian folks
[19:26] <pikaro> strange that those aren't mentioned on ubuntu's own help page
[19:26] <SolarisB1y> ^^
[19:26] <SolarisB1y> i know debootstrap is a debian util as well
[19:26] <CLI-ubuntist> Is there other differences between the Regular Image and the Server Image other than the GUI?
[19:26] <SolarisB1y> i guess most people dont generally use it on the user end
[19:26] <SolarisB1y> i do a lot of build out automation so these are inseperable for me
[19:27] <pikaro> ok, I'll just see which is easier to use. thanks again :)
[19:27] <SolarisB1y> np
[19:27] <iPenguin> I have a acer aspire one matanya
[19:29] <elisa87> Do you know which file contacins gomp?  This is the error I am receiving : "cannot find -lgomp"
[19:30] <matanya> iPenguin: you can use the 64bit
[19:30] <sardar_khalsa> any resolution guys?
[19:30] <matanya> elisa87: it is a lib, not a file
[19:30] <matanya> sardar_khalsa: what is your problem?
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> lib means library
[19:30] <SolarisB1y> elisa87: and it should be in the Library path
[19:30] <SolarisB1y> elisa87: it probably isn't and thats likely the root of the warning
[19:31] <IdleOne> elisa87: lib32gomp1or lib64gomp1 if you installed 64 bit ubuntu
[19:31] <SolarisB1y> yeppers
[19:31] <matanya> yes CLI-ubuntist many kernel parameters
[19:31] <Afteraffekt> http://i.imgur.com/eCdOZp6.jpg
[19:31] <elisa87> matanya: Can I just copy that library from gcc 4.6 to gcc 4.1? And what is the name of the library?
[19:31] <Afteraffekt> SolarisB1y, http://i.imgur.com/eCdOZp6.jpg
[19:31] <SolarisB1y> elisa87: you shouldn't
[19:32] <SolarisB1y> especially if it  was built from two diff GCC's elisa87
[19:32] <elisa87> SolarisB1y: do you know what is the name of the lib? that is related to -lgomp flag?
[19:32] <matanya> elisa87: most likely you can't and shouldn't
[19:32] <SolarisB1y> youll find odd errors if it does happen to work -
[19:32] <SolarisB1y> elisa87: yea IdleOne posted it i believe
[19:32] <SolarisB1y> IdleOne ) elisa87: lib32gomp1or lib64gomp1 if you installed 64 bit ubuntu
[19:33] <SolarisB1y> installing one of thsoe should get it in your lib paths and available for the compilation your performing -
[19:33] <matanya> Afteraffekt: remove any usb or external source and try
[19:33] <SolarisB1y> matanya: yea thats what i was thinking also
[19:33] <Afteraffekt> matanya, the only extrernal is the drive i am booting from
[19:33] <SolarisB1y> i dont think there isn't a reason that could be it
[19:33] <matanya> Afteraffekt: so not suprising you can't boot
[19:34] <SolarisB1y> maybe its corrupted
[19:34] <matanya> Afteraffekt: try from a usb or cd
[19:34] <CLI-ubuntist> How can I know the minimum RAM required to run Ubuntu Server 12.04? It isn't mentioned in this page: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[19:34] <matanya> CLI-ubuntist: it is 128MB
[19:34] <DJones> !requirements | CLI-ubuntist
[19:35] <Afteraffekt> SolarisB1y, hmm. ill try another
[19:35] <SolarisB1y> Afteraffekt: sounds reasonable
[19:35] <sardar_khalsa> matanya: i just installed the skype...
[19:35] <elisa87> SolarisB1y:  matanya I just have these 3 not the one you mentioned /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4/libgomp.a
[19:35] <elisa87> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4/libgomp.so
[19:35] <elisa87> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4/libgomp.spec
[19:35] <sardar_khalsa> and i am not able to launch that...
[19:35] <matanya> so sad i know it by heart DJones  :)
[19:35] <SolarisB1y> elisa87: those are likely installed when you installed the ones we mentioned elisa87
[19:36] <matanya> sardar_khalsa: and?
[19:36] <donavan01> ok I have a really crazy idea here or at least it seems that way... let me know if it can be done... so I need to a wifi card in a machine I have and the signal isnt the greatest where I need to go with it but its not bad so my thought o overcome some of the issues was to use 802.11g or even b because of the distance its able to travel but that limits my bandwidth so I though "what if I can combine two of those cheapo usb adapters as one virtual connecti
[19:36] <donavan01> on over two physical antennas (call it binding, trunking, whatever)"  ... so whats everyones thought ... is this possible ? is it worth doing?
[19:36] <CLI-ubuntist> Thanks.  DJones: is that a command for the CLI??
[19:36] <elisa87> SolarisB1y: how can I install the one you mentioned? any help? because I have to install it on a mounted iso
[19:36] <xan_it> hi to all i need help. i have "ariplane mode" always enabled. yesterday all works fine
[19:37] <SolarisB1y> elisa87: im not sure what the mounted iso is or how you plan to install it - but assuming the mounted iso is an ubuntu system - you should be able to mount and chroot and install it and it will be there
[19:37] <matanya> xan_it: disable it
[19:37] <sardar_khalsa> matanya : how could i launch that mate?
[19:37] <matanya> just open skype
[19:37] <xan_it> ... if i do that, it remains enabled
[19:37] <sardar_khalsa> from?
[19:37] <matanya> try in the terminal "skype"
[19:38] <matanya> without quotes if course
[19:38] <sardar_khalsa> command not found
[19:38] <battlehands> I'm having trouble installing JRE on ubuntu.  http://bio3d.colorado.edu/docs/imoduserguide.pdf  I'm following the steps there.  I keep getting permission denied messages, and I think that's the source of the problem.  Please advise.
[19:38] <SolarisB1y> whats airplane mode in reference to ubuntu (sorry for my ignorance, i know on my phone its turning off the tx/rx)
[19:38] <matanya> xan_it: try: sudo rfkill list all
[19:39] <SolarisB1y> battlehands: if you just want JRE there is a better way - whats your OS?
[19:39] <Deepfriedice> SolarisB1y: Probably turning of the wifi and bluetooth.
[19:39] <matanya> SolarisB1y: you can set it in unity/gnome. it soft locks the wireless/bluetooth
[19:39] <SolarisB1y> battlehands: and do you need Sun Java or do you need Iced Tea?
[19:40] <uski> hi; i'm trying to install 12.04 x86; the installer segfaults when trying to download the "installation components list" from the mirror; is there a mirror corruption or something ? can I enable some logs to investigate ?
[19:40] <SolarisB1y> Deepfriedice: matanya oh wow - did not know that =)
[19:40] <matanya> uski: what mirror
[19:40] <battlehands> SolarisB1y: ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[19:40] <matanya> sardar_khalsa: did you install skype? how?
[19:41] <battlehands> SolarisB1y: I'll just follow this guide.  It says JRE
[19:41] <Snype> i have skype
[19:41] <Snype> and i am on 12.04
[19:41] <Snype> 64 bit
[19:41] <SolarisB1y> battlehands: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[19:41] <Snype> its fairly simple
[19:41] <matanya> battlehands: jre is best from java site
[19:41] <SolarisB1y> battlehands: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install <your java falvor>
[19:41] <Snype> skype is in multiverse i think
[19:41] <uski> matanya : not sure, one from France; i'm going to try another one in a minute
[19:41] <Snype> you just need to enable in update
[19:41] <Snype> and then update
[19:41] <Snype> then sudo apt-get install skype
[19:42] <matanya> uski: do it :)
[19:42]  * matanya answered too many questions today :)
[19:42] <uski> matanya : just tried from the US mirror, doesn't work either
[19:42] <uski> (freezes)
[19:42] <xan_it> matanya http://pastebin.com/uxdSU7jW
[19:42] <uski> can I enable some logs ?
[19:43] <battlehands> SolarisB1y: what is my java flavor?
[19:43] <sardar_khalsa> matanya : do i paste commands over here?
[19:43] <SolarisB1y> battlehands: jre or jdk
[19:43] <matanya> sardar_khalsa: no, in paste.ubuntu.com
[19:43] <battlehands> what specifically should I type in?
[19:44] <battlehands> just one or the other or those?
[19:44] <matanya> jre battlehands
[19:44] <battlehands> word
[19:44] <Afteraffekt> SolarisB1y, matanya ...I pulled the drive and it instantly booted up and is running
[19:44] <matanya>  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install jre battlehands
[19:44] <sardar_khalsa> matanya : pasted there
[19:44] <SolarisB1y> Afteraffekt: nice sounds like it was hw related from the jump
[19:44] <matanya> sardar_khalsa: give us the link
[19:45] <Afteraffekt> SolarisB1y, sadly its froze since i pulled the drive hahah
[19:45] <matanya> good to hear Afteraffekt
[19:45] <SolarisB1y> Afteraffekt: get a new hard drive or run some tests on the existing one
[19:45] <matanya> Afteraffekt: you can reboot
[19:45] <SolarisB1y> its probably at the end of it's rotational life
[19:45] <SolarisB1y> ;>
[19:45] <uski> matanya : just tried from the US mirror, doesn't work either; is there a way to enable some logs or something ?
[19:45] <Afteraffekt> its a brand new ultrabook
[19:45] <battlehands> SolarisB1y: matanya: I get this http://pastebin.com/qBnadweN
[19:45] <SolarisB1y> i also hope you didn't pull it on a live system...
[19:45] <matanya> you can run the installer from command line
[19:46] <SolarisB1y> that would freeze too - i know this lady that did that one day - yanked HBA's out a live server ::rofling::
[19:46] <Afteraffekt> was only a flash drive
[19:46] <SolarisB1y> battlehands: you need to use the proper package name sir - apt-cache search java
[19:46] <matanya> battlehands: no package with your name
[19:46] <Afteraffekt> the drive is bad, just booted the new drive in .5 seconds...litterally. holy poop
[19:46] <SolarisB1y> and the new entries from the repo you added will pop up
[19:46] <xan_it> http://pastebin.com/CAPFEE99
[19:47] <Afteraffekt> SolarisB1y, matanya i am doing this cause i cant get windows 8 installer to see my SSD so i am trying to find out why
[19:47] <sardar_khalsa> matanya : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714497/
[19:47] <xan_it> help plz
[19:47] <matanya> Afteraffekt: delete windows
[19:47] <Afteraffekt> matanya, it has to have windows on it sadly
[19:47] <matanya> xan_it: what is the output of the command?
[19:48] <SolarisB1y> battlehands: seems like you want exactly this: ' sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer'
[19:48] <SolarisB1y> that will take care of the rest after that try 'java -version' and ensure it's the one you want
[19:48] <SolarisB1y> battlehands: that all assumes you added the ppa i posted previously
[19:48] <matanya> sardar_khalsa: sudo apt-get install skype
[19:49] <battlehands> SolarisB1y: when I tried to add the ppa, I got the error message that I posted here.
[19:49] <sardar_khalsa> yepp I did
[19:49] <xan_it> matanya http://pastebin.com/CAPFEE99
[19:49] <SolarisB1y> 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer --assume-yes
[19:49] <SolarisB1y> battlehands: that looks like an error from adding a package that doesn't exist
[19:49] <matanya> what was the output of that sardar_khalsa ?
[19:49] <sardar_khalsa> installed
[19:49] <SolarisB1y> battlehands: try what i posted above
[19:49] <sardar_khalsa> and asked for the to continue or not?
[19:49] <battlehands> SolarisB1y: including the --assume-yes?
[19:49] <sardar_khalsa> i replied yes
[19:49] <SolarisB1y> yes but excluding the first ' character that was a typo
[19:49] <matanya> and then?
[19:49] <sardar_khalsa> and then got abort
[19:50] <matanya> so it is not installed
[19:50] <SolarisB1y> make sure its on one line as well battlehands
[19:50] <battlehands> done
[19:50] <matanya> what caused the abort?
[19:50] <sardar_khalsa> din't say anything
[19:50] <matanya> try again
[19:50] <SolarisB1y> battlehands: ok - try "java -version" you may or may not need to open a new shell window
[19:50] <YokoBR> OMG, FINALLY! Finnaly made to work my HD 4250 on Ubuntu 12.04!
[19:50] <battlehands> dl seems to be in progress
[19:50] <battlehands> I'll try once something finishes
[19:51] <SolarisB1y> battlehands: yes let that all be done - correct
[19:51] <YokoBR> With Hybrid muxless graphics
[19:51] <YokoBR> and HD 6310 also
[19:51] <matanya> good for you YokoBR !
[19:52] <battlehands> SolarisB1y: http://pastebin.com/i1CAVAZH looks like it worked
[19:52] <matanya> yes, it did battlehands
[19:52] <TheUsD> is Vim and Vi the same thing?
[19:52] <battlehands> thanks, guys :)
[19:52] <battlehands> TheUsD: no
[19:52] <matanya> TheUsD: no
[19:52] <battlehands> TheUsD: they are similar text editors
[19:53] <battlehands> TheUsD: but use different command and have slightly different functionality
[19:53] <TheUsD> how can I install Vi?
[19:53] <SolarisB1y> TheUsD: vim is vi improved =)
[19:53] <SolarisB1y> TheUsD: it should be installed on all POSIX systems by default
[19:53] <battlehands> TheUsD: what Os are you using?
[19:53] <SolarisB1y> TheUsD: type vi
[19:54] <xan_it> http://pastebin.com/MZHZ0kfr NEED HELP
[19:54] <sw99> What version of nginx is contained in Ubuntu 12.04 (LTS) ?
[19:54] <sw99> in the package manager
[19:54] <TheUsD> I did, I was trying to edit my host file by using vi etc/hosts but so far its a no-go
[19:55] <Afteraffekt> SolarisB1y, matanya how can I get ubuntu to show me all the drives it can see, accessable or not
[19:55] <battlehands> TheUsD: www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/vimchear.html, ce.uml.edu/vi.htm, and lagmonster.org/docs/vi.html are good resources for vim and vi, respectively
[19:55] <TheUsD> would gksudo vi /etc/hosts   be acceptible for graphical editing?
[19:56] <TheUsD> graphical should have been GUI...
[19:56] <zykotick9> TheUsD: use sudo for terminal applications (like vi), and gksudo for GUI apps.
[19:56] <sardar_khalsa> matanya : any idea?
[19:57] <Afteraffekt> SolarisB1y, matanya how can I get ubuntu to show me all the drives it can see, accessable or not
[19:57] <zykotick9> TheUsD: sidenote, i'd strongly suggest installing vim, vim-tiny which is basically vi - lacks a lot of features
[19:57] <Afteraffekt> Like what is the terminal command again?
[19:57] <xan_it> help me http://pastebin.com/MZHZ0kfr i have always airplane mode ON. yesterday all works fine
[19:57] <seronis> Afteraffekt:  is    fdisk -l    what you want ?
[19:58] <seronis> err     sudo fdisk -l
[19:58] <zykotick9> Afteraffekt: "sudo blkid" or "sudo parted -l" if you have GPT partitions
[19:58] <matanya_> xan_it: you have a hard lock on the wifi, move the switch
[19:58] <Afteraffekt> ah ok - that works, i can see my SSD drive but windows can not
[19:59] <battlehands> That guide that I posted asks be to create a link to the java bin file in  /usr/local/java.  Do I still need to do that step?  It says that IMOD assumes that the .bin file is in that directory.
[19:59] <matanya> battlehands: won't harm, but most likely not needed
[19:59] <xan_it> matanya_ i have done it, in pastebin log there is when i push and the rfkill list output
[19:59] <seronis> Afteraffekt: even windows disk manager?  i forget where to find that control panel but it can show unpartitioned/unformatted drives that are invisible to normal viewing
[20:00] <Afteraffekt> Serano, i cant see it in the windows installer
[20:00] <Afteraffekt> I need to get windows 8 onto it
[20:00] <battlehands> matanya: problem is... I don't even have a java folder in that directory...
[20:00] <neytiri> hi how do i setup ubuntu as a dile up server
[20:00] <matanya> battlehands: mkdir -p
[20:00] <battlehands>  -p?
[20:00] <matanya> xan_it: i didn't see it
[20:01] <matanya> battlehands: mkdir -p /usr/local/java
[20:01] <matanya> p=create the path if doesn't exist
[20:01] <xan_it> matanya "// WIRELESS BUTTON PRESS"
[20:01] <YokoBR> anybody with problems on ati drivers?
[20:01] <battlehands> matanya: battlehands@UbattleVM:~$ mkdir -p /usr/local/java mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/java': File exists
[20:01] <matanya> so you have it :)
[20:01] <battlehands> okay
[20:02] <battlehands> but then when I try to cd to it
[20:02] <matanya> xan_it: i see now
[20:02] <battlehands> matanya: battlehands@UbattleVM:~$ cd /usr/local/java bash: cd: /usr/local/java: No such file or directory
[20:02] <matanya> you can cd to a file battlehands
[20:02] <matanya> *can't
[20:02] <battlehands> ah
[20:02] <neytiri> hi how do i setup ubuntu 10.4 as a dile up server, i have a remote location with no internet connection and i need to be able to connect to my netwrok here
[20:02] <Afteraffekt> is there a way to repair an ntfs drive with ubuntu? lol
[20:02] <matanya> yes Afteraffekt
[20:03] <matanya> use gparted
[20:03] <matanya> xan_it: does the button have a led?
[20:03] <xan_it> i use ubuntu from 2006 and i report bug in launchpad, im not noob (at all)
[20:04] <matanya> xan_it: might be a bug (no one assumed you are a noob)
[20:04] <xan_it> yes but are always on, if i press, nothing change
[20:04] <matanya> and btw xan_it my grama also uses ubuntu since 2006, but she has no clue under the hood :
[20:04] <xan_it> just in network manager i see "disabled hardware" or not
[20:05] <Afteraffekt> matanya, when i do check it gives an error, but doesnt show what happened. can i just try to format it clean?
[20:05] <matanya> yes Afteraffekt , but better do so within windows
[20:05] <Afteraffekt> I cant get into windows
[20:06] <Afteraffekt> says the drive isnt made bootable
[20:06] <Afteraffekt> can i wipe it fully and let the windows installer reformat it?
[20:06] <matanya> xan_it: did you try a reboot?
[20:06] <matanya> yes Afteraffekt
[20:06] <xan_it> yes, ubuntu are 12.10 with last updates
[20:08] <xan_it> i try with boot from usb, to exclude hardware problem
[20:09] <AnonAMouse> I installed the 'hibernate' package and I created a 2GB swap space partition. What else do I need to do?
[20:09] <matanya> what computer is it xan_it
[20:09] <xan_it> hp 635
[20:09] <matanya> AnonAMouse: try to hibernate
[20:10] <AnonAMouse> There's no option in the top right menu to hibernate
[20:10] <matanya> xan_it: what wifi driver?
[20:10] <matanya> AnonAMouse: it was disabled by ubuntu
[20:11] <AnonAMouse> matanya Ah I'm reading the 'fix' article now
[20:11] <matanya> you can hibernate using the command sudo pm-hibernate
[20:11] <zykotick9> AnonAMouse: fyi, swap partition must be slightly larger then physical RAM for hibernation to work.  fyi2, ubuntu disables hibernation by default - not sure what steps need to be taken to re-enable it.  good luck.
[20:11] <mterry> GunnarHj, hi  :)
[20:11] <matanya> zykotick9: it is quite simple
[20:11] <GunnarHj> mterry: Hi again.
[20:11] <matanya> xan_it: do you know the wifi card?
[20:12] <AnonAMouse> My RAM size is 8GB. I almost always close all applications before going into hibernation. What size would you recommend?
[20:12] <xan_it> this is rebooting, when finish i put lspci
[20:12] <xan_it> its good?
[20:12] <matanya> AnonAMouse: 16GB
[20:12] <zykotick9> AnonAMouse: well, 8.2GB would be safest...
[20:12] <GunnarHj> mterry: Maybe I'd better check out if dpkg can be run..
[20:13] <MartynKeigher> if i run sudo shutodwn -r now from within a xrdp session i just get logged off...the server doesnt reboot
[20:13] <matanya> AnonAMouse: 2gb won't be enough for sure
[20:13] <GunnarHj> mterry: I tried apt-get, but that wasn't found.
[20:13] <MartynKeigher> any workaround, as i dont have access to the hypervisor level. just the ubuntu server vm.
[20:13] <AnonAMouse> matanya Even if all applications are closed?
[20:13] <mterry> GunnarHj, ah.  I'm guessing nothing is mounted in your busybox
[20:13] <matanya> AnonAMouse: you never know :)
[20:13] <GunnarHj> mterry: That's what I fear, too.
[20:14] <mterry> GunnarHj, you may have to manually mount it
[20:14] <mterry> GunnarHj, do you know how to do that?
[20:14] <matanya> MartynKeigher: what happens if you call init 6?
[20:14] <GunnarHj> mterry: Not without googling around. Can you handhold me on that?
[20:14] <MartynKeigher> how do i do that ?
[20:14] <matanya> sudo init 6
[20:14] <MartynKeigher> just init 6 at the terminal?
[20:14] <MartynKeigher> one sec.
[20:15] <MartynKeigher> the vm has become unrepsonsive-ish since i ran the command so im waiting
[20:15] <AnonAMouse> The drive that has Ubuntu installed (second drive is bigger but for Steam games) is only 20GB. with the 2GB swapspace it's down to 11.1GB.
[20:15] <xan_it> matanya i have same problem with usb boot ubuntu 13.04
[20:15] <xan_it> it's hardware broken?
[20:15] <matanya> might be
[20:16] <xan_it> its atheros AR 9285
[20:16] <Uy_6u57av0_6u1d0> is there any way to make an application start with the option "always in visible working area" on ?
[20:16] <xan_it> i can try someting?
[20:16] <xan_it> fisically remove card and clean?
[20:17] <AnonAMouse> matanya What would happen if there wasn't enough swapspace? Would it just shutdown instead or freeze?
[20:17] <SolarisB1y> Uy_6u57av0_6u1d0: assuming your running Compiz you can try the "Place Windows" plugin
[20:18] <SolarisB1y> Uy_6u57av0_6u1d0: if your not running compiz you can try devilspie2
[20:19] <Uy_6u57av0_6u1d0> SolarisB1y: nothing to do in "native mode"
[20:19] <matanya> AnonAMouse: unexpected things
[20:19] <AnonAMouse> How could I go about putting the swapspace on a different hard drive to the one with the OS installed?
[20:20] <mterry> GunnarHj, sorry, got distracted
[20:20] <mterry> GunnarHj, sure can
[20:21] <matanya> xan_it: rmmod ath9k
[20:21] <matanya> sudo rfkill unblock all
[20:21] <mterry> GunnarHj, I *think* you can just do: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt  (and adjust sda1 obviously as needed)
[20:21] <matanya> sudo modprobe ath9k
[20:21] <n72567> i cant login in ubuntu
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> n72567  what happes?
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> n72567  what happens?
[20:22] <matanya> !details| n72567
[20:22] <oconnore> Hey ubuntu, on 12.10, gnome-terminal is sending C-M-j to emacs instead of M-ret. What is causing this and how do I fix it?
[20:22] <n72567> my startx just works for root
[20:22] <matanya> oconnore: use vi :)
[20:22] <n72567> when i run startx with user it closes
[20:22] <oconnore> matanya: I do! (for certain things)
[20:22] <TheUsD> teservices.msc
[20:23] <GunnarHj> mterry: Ok, I'll switch to the other partition and try that. Thanks! Will you be around for a while?
[20:23] <Afteraffekt> Omg cmd prompt takes so long to format the right way lol
[20:23] <matanya> n72567: add an entry in /var/run/console for the user
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> n72567  why do you need startx?
[20:23] <TheUsD> crap, wrong computer...
[20:23] <joshinc> #adempiere
[20:23] <mterry> GunnarHj, yeah like another hour
[20:24] <GunnarHj> mterry: Ok, then I know. See you.
[20:24] <n72567> i dont need startx but regular login doesnt work su i tested and saw that with startx it just closes so i give u details
[20:24] <matanya> n72567: try my command
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> n72567  what happens when you try to login, "doesnt work" is a bit vague
[20:25] <n72567> it just go back to login
[20:25] <matanya> n72567: touch /var/run/console/<username>
[20:25] <n72567> it says permission denied
[20:25] <matanya> xan_it: any news?
[20:26] <matanya> n72567: sudo touch /var/run/console/<username>
[20:26] <matanya> and replace username with the actual username
[20:26] <n72567> did now what
[20:26] <TheUsD> is there a command to tell a raid to become a network drive?
[20:26] <matanya> yes TheUsD
[20:26] <TheUsD> and then be able to access it from a win machine?
[20:26] <matanya> you can mount the drive trough nfs
[20:27] <genii-around> Or in case you want access from Windows, samba
[20:27] <matanya> genii-around: stole my letters off the keyboard
[20:27] <n72567> my x just clses without errors
[20:27] <wildwind> TheUsD: Samba, didn't you know that?
[20:27] <TheUsD> can you get samba in GUI? I cannot find it... :-/ I hate feeling like a noob
[20:27] <seronis> is there some package I can install that will enable  'print to png file'
[20:28] <TheUsD> Wildwind: you werent supposed to be in here :p
[20:28] <xan_it> matanya i do not read before, try it
[20:28] <matanya> TheUsD: samba is a daemon
[20:28] <TheUsD> I know I keep asking the same questions over and over but after I get some direction and try to research it I seem to not find much answers online.
[20:28] <matanya> xan_it: rmmod ath9k
[20:28] <genii-around> !info samba4
[20:29] <TheUsD> matanya: look I dont want any demonds....I already have a ghost name Steve that lives in my 60 year-old house...
[20:29] <matanya> TheUsD: the best way to learn is trial and error
[20:29] <matanya> TheUsD: you have a lot of daemons on your computer, sorry :)
[20:29] <n72567> the problem is with  my user
[20:29] <xan_it> matanya there is some possibility that are software bug (some days ago all works fine)
[20:29] <n72567> i can login with another user
[20:29] <xan_it> ?
[20:29] <wildwind> TheUsD: install Zentyal. It's like GUI for your server, windows-speaking
[20:30] <matanya> they are called services in windows
[20:30] <matanya> xan it, give it a shot
[20:30] <xan_it> matanya done rmmod
[20:30] <matanya> sudo rfkill unblock all
[20:30] <matanya> sudo modprobe ath9k
[20:31] <lesshaste> are there any applications that support multi-touch yet?
[20:31] <matanya> yes lesshaste
[20:31] <matanya> most of them
[20:31] <xan_it> matanya done
[20:31] <n72567> can somebody help me
[20:31] <matanya> worked xan_it ?
[20:31] <lesshaste> matanya, can you name one?
[20:31] <lesshaste> inkscape doesn't :)
[20:31] <matanya> lesshaste: shotwell
[20:31] <lesshaste> matanya, cool!
[20:32] <matanya> n72567: we can't help you without detailed information
[20:32] <n72567> how much more info i can give
[20:32] <xan_it> matanya no
[20:32] <lesshaste> matanya, multitouch support only arrived in in the last 6 months right?
[20:33] <n72567> as i said other users can login to x but not me. x closes and i am back to login page
[20:34] <diverdude> im trying to run a program but i get this error: error while loading shared libraries: libsoci_core.so.3.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. however that file is located in /usr/local/lib64/libsoci_core.so.3.2. I have installed it in a package with this contents: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714627/   What am I missing?
[20:35] <lmat> I noticed that if I click the menu item, I don't have to specify a password to reboot, etc. But when I type "reboot" or "shutdown -r now", etc. in terminal, it requires super user privileges :(
[20:35] <SolarisB1y> diverdude: how are you running the program?
[20:35] <lmat> What does Gnome do to shutdown the computer? I suppose it all comes down to an API call, right? Do shutdown and gnome use a different API call to do their shutdown?
[20:35] <wildwind> n72567: login to console (Ctrl+Alt+F1), go to /var/log and read logs
[20:36] <SolarisB1y> lmat: i think it uses dbus
[20:36] <diverdude> SolarisB1y, directly from the commandline ./programname
[20:36] <matanya> correct lmat
[20:36] <lmat> diverdude: Usually you should create a symbolic link in this case.
[20:36] <lmat> SolarisB1y: Which? Shutdown or gnome?
[20:36] <diverdude> lmat, aha i see...from where to where?
[20:36] <SolarisB1y> lmat: the shutdown/reboot without password widget your referencing
[20:37] <lmat> diverdude: the link should be in /usr/lib perhaps and point to the file that you want.
[20:37] <matanya> lmat: gnome uses ibus
[20:37] <n72567> which log?
[20:37] <lmat> diverdude: You basically need to put the so (or a link thereunto) on the so "path" (I forgot what it's called).
[20:37] <SolarisB1y> library path
[20:37] <lmat> matanya: How do I use ibus from the cmd line?
[20:38] <matanya> lmat: you don't
[20:38] <MrWayne> Greetings
[20:38] <genii-around> diverdude: Did you run something like sudo ldconfig  after you installed those libraries?
[20:38] <lmat> matanya: :( but I could rewrite shutdown and reboot to use this, right?
[20:38] <wildwind> n72567: Xorg.0.log to begin with
[20:38] <matanya> yes lmat
[20:38] <SolarisB1y> you can use ldconfig and ld.so.conf.d directory to update the paths properly diverdude
[20:38] <diverdude> lmat, so ln -s /usr/local/lib64/libsoci_core.so.3.2 /usr/lib/libsoci_core.so.3.2 ?
[20:39] <SolarisB1y> no
[20:39] <lmat> diverdude: perhaps...I would defer to others, but this might work ^_^
[20:39] <SolarisB1y> diverdude: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-setting-changing-library-path/
[20:39] <SolarisB1y> read this and try it like that is the proper way
[20:39] <SolarisB1y> you can link but thats not as stable
[20:40] <n72567> as i said other users can login to x so x is not a problem
[20:40] <n72567> and it logs show no error
[20:40] <matanya> it is a problem for you
[20:40] <SolarisB1y> you want to try ldconfig -v |grep "/usr/local/lib64" if that path isn't there - add it in a file under /etc/ld.so.conf.d/mynelibpath.conf
[20:40] <SolarisB1y> and then run 'sudo ldconfig'
[20:40] <n72567> sigh
[20:40] <SolarisB1y> the library should be available then
[20:41] <SolarisB1y> n72567: check auth.log?
[20:42] <SolarisB1y> n72567: is it just a default installation with a normal DM and login screen? or is this something highly customized?
[20:42] <n72567> customized
[20:42] <davbren> Sup
[20:43] <bennypr0fane> hellopat, Will Gnome 3.6 or higher ever come to the repos of Ubuntu 12.04? I mean it is LTS, after all...
[20:43] <wildwind> n72567: OK, backup and clear user home (from another user's session) and test again
[20:43] <matanya> bennypr0fane: most likely no
[20:44] <bennypr0fane> I asked this at askubuntu.com, and got "This post does not meet our quality standards." What's up with that? It's a concise enough question...
[20:44] <SolarisB1y> bennypr0fane: id canonical deems it stable sure
[20:44] <SolarisB1y> if
[20:44] <matanya> bennypr0fane: to theoretical there
[20:45] <matanya> *too
[20:45] <wildwind> n72567: hope it's not 10GB+ home :)
[20:45] <SolarisB1y> the LTS is for things that should be stable - so if canonical feels 3.6 can be stably implemented and decides to add it - yes - if not no - ultimately it was probably not answered because it doesnt really have an answer
[20:45] <bennypr0fane> seems stable enouhg to me on other distro. I know 3.8 is not, but 3.6 hasn't crashed on me once. Also they've released a version of 12.10 and 13.04 each with 3.6
[20:45] <SolarisB1y> right - but then your not canonical =)
[20:45] <SolarisB1y> and that system isn't ubuntu 12.04 LTS =)
[20:46] <bennypr0fane> SolarisB1y, right, completely fogrot about that
[20:46] <matanya> LTS are supposed to be rock solid bennypr0fane
[20:46] <SolarisB1y> ;> not tryna be a smarty pants but seriously its probably a long drawn out developer answer as to why thta you dont want to hear - at the least it's a long political update you dont want to here
[20:47] <bennypr0fane> I often wake up believing I'm Canonical :-)
[20:47] <SolarisB1y> ;>
[20:47] <matanya> better than waking up and believe you are microsoft bennypr0fane
[20:47] <matanya> or apple for the case
[20:47] <wilx_> Hi.
[20:47] <bennypr0fane> are you saying stability standards are higher for LTS than for the other releases?
[20:48] <SolarisB1y> yes canonicals "standards" are higher there
[20:48] <tgm4883> LTS has software that canonical is more comfortable providing support for in a longer term (eg. 5 years), whether that translates to better stability, IDK
[20:48] <SolarisB1y> good explanation tgm4883
[20:49] <bennypr0fane> If Gnome 3.8 is already released, that means 3.4 is certainly not seeing any more improvements, is it?
[20:49] <SolarisB1y> bennypr0fane: that doesn't neccesarily mean that
[20:49] <bennypr0fane> or not even 3.6...?
[20:50] <SolarisB1y> bennypr0fane: also what you'll notice is a lot of times what happens is the devs at the distro your interested in are reviewing it and patching it the way they want IF they are looking to implement it - so a lot of other stuff is involved
[20:50] <bennypr0fane> I mean if the GNome team have released a newer version, why should they still fix things in older ones?
[20:50] <SolarisB1y> because its on their distro
[20:51] <SolarisB1y> this is a common thing - like how rhel still ships ruby 1.8.7 albeit it's patched by redhat to address teh security CVEs that make the ruby community ditch it for 1.9.x
[20:52] <bennypr0fane> ahammond, you mean the *Ubuntu* people will look after fixing whatever they use in that distro while it's already abandoned by the Gnome devs
[20:52] <AlexNagy> Why is everything always worse on Ubuntu? I used Ubuntu for nearly two years and never once saw anything actually improve. I have, however, seen Ubuntu make things worse. Could someone honestly answer my question?
[20:52] <bennypr0fane> not ahmmond, just ah
[20:52] <ahammond> bennypr0fane: :)
[20:52] <SolarisB1y> AlexNagy: be specific...
[20:52] <yeats> AlexNagy: do you have a specific support question?
[20:52] <GunnarHj> mterry: Well, "mount /dev/sda6 /mnt" didn't work. Neither /dev/sda? nor /mnt is visible.
[20:52] <GunnarHj> I see at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=udev that udev isn't supposed to be available in saucy, which indicates that it's not that package that needs to be fixed anyway...
[20:52] <GunnarHj> Any other ideas, or should I prepare myself to install a fresh saucy? :(
[20:53] <ahammond> yeats: nah, he's trollin! :)
[20:53] <AlexNagy> Gnome 2 vs Unity, Gimp 2.6 vs. Gimp 2.8 (I don't see how you guys made Gimp worse, but you did), forcing a migration from OOo to LO.
[20:53] <SolarisB1y> ubuntu has improved loads over the years i remember using 8.x ::mehsandwiches::
[20:53] <AlexNagy> yeats: no support question, just a legit question.
[20:53] <mterry> GunnarHj, udev is still in saucy, just provided by a different source package (systemd)
[20:53] <yeats> !ot | AlexNagy
[20:53] <neytiri> hi how do i setup ubuntu 10.4 as a dialup server, i have a remote location with no internet connection and i need to be able to connect to my netwrok here
[20:54] <SolarisB1y> AlexNagy: do you have a specific problem that you need help with?
[20:54] <mterry> GunnarHj, do you have /dev/hda?
[20:54] <bennypr0fane> btw the question I *tried* to post on askubuntu didn't just not get an answer, but it was automatically rejected. Maybe they believe a precise question cannot be that short
[20:54] <ahammond> AlexNagy: not a legit question, a bunch of complaints based on your personal opinions. :)
[20:54] <GunnarHj> mterry: Aha, then I misunderstood that LP page.
[20:54] <SolarisB1y> bennypr0fane: the nature of your question makes it a looooong answer seriously
[20:55] <SolarisB1y> bennypr0fane: you got parts of the long answer in here ...
[20:55] <SolarisB1y> imagine a guy managing those posts, hes not trying to holla at ya for that long.. lol
[20:55] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBly I get that, but how does the site know that?
[20:55] <GunnarHj> mterry: I don't know... Need to check.
[20:55] <SolarisB1y> hes like - OFFTOPIC denied go to sleep
[20:55] <bennypr0fane> it wasn't rejected by a person, but automatically
[20:55] <SolarisB1y> ::shrugs:: no clue bennypr0fane
[20:55] <AlexNagy> It is a legit question, based on the fact that Unity sucks compared to even Gnome 3, the defaults forced on the Ubuntu Gimp 2.8 package make Gimp worse, and based on the fact that whenever you force anyone to migrate to a software someone else prefers, it's no better than Microsoft and how they operate.
[20:55] <SolarisB1y> bennypr0fane: maybe they regex Gnome versions lmao
[20:56] <GunnarHj> mterry: What's your idea if I have /dev/hda?
[20:56] <AlexNagy> but I'm off to the other channel to get an answer.
[20:56] <SolarisB1y> if ($_ =~ /Gnome 3\.\d+/) {"fail"}
[20:56] <DJones> AlexNagy: Have you filed any bugs regarding the problems?
[20:56]  * SolarisB1y rofling
[20:56] <ahammond> AlexNagy: good luck. :)
[20:57] <ahammond> AlexNagy: and I kind of agree that Unity sucks… but then I don't use Ubuntu on my desktop.
[20:57] <bennypr0fane> AlexNagy, the "sucks" in your complaint is a very subjective one
[20:57] <ahammond> And… you might spend some time learning about apt configurations, PPAs etc before talking about stuff being forced on anyone.
[20:57] <AlexNagy> DJones: Filed a bug report? To what end? Ubuntu is moving quickly to only being usable on high-end desktops.
[20:57] <AlexNagy> bennypr0fane: perhaps
[20:58] <DJones> AlexNagy: If people don't file bugs/feature requests, then the developers won't know that there is a problem between how they and the users see the system going
[20:58] <mterry> GunnarHj, just /dev/hda without numbers after it?
[20:58] <SolarisB1y> what confuses me is what do people want other than unity? or is it the performance? mines works fine, previous to unity folks would install gnome-do or other sorts of other similar apps, which if you ask me, reflect unity
[20:58] <SolarisB1y> so i get lost to the unity complaints as just whining a lot
[20:58] <ahammond> complaining that the defaults suck without really specific things you'd like to see changed isn't gonna help anyone. Filing bugs/feature requests with specific complaints and suggestions for improvements however… :)
[20:58] <mterry> GunnarHj, the idea is to use hda instead of sda in the mount line if you have them
[20:59] <bennypr0fane> SolarisB1y, I see the Unity thing in a similar way
[20:59] <GunnarHj> mterry: You mean "mount /dev/hda /mnt"?
[20:59] <SolarisB1y> yea - i like it. a lot better than that gnome-shell madness
[20:59] <SolarisB1y> brb
[20:59] <AlexNagy> I prefer WindowMaker in all honesty (couldn't find it in the official PPAs), but used Gnome 2 instead (I got tired of KDE a long time ago).
[21:00] <mterry> GunnarHj, yeah, but you'd need to specify /dev/hdaX, where X is a number of the partition for your main ubuntu install.  And you may want to mkdir /mnt first
[21:00] <Inv1s1ble> What's the correct Ubuntu/Debian way to turn services on and off (like rc-update in Gentoo or chkconfig in opensuse)?
[21:00] <matanya> Inv1s1ble: rc-update
[21:01] <dryicebomb> Inv1s1ble: update-rc.d
[21:01] <xan_it> matanya some idea?
[21:01] <Inv1s1ble> dryicebomb, spanks!
[21:01] <matanya> yeah, i meant what dryicebomb said :)
[21:01] <matanya> xan_it: it didn't work?
[21:01] <xan_it> no
[21:02] <matanya> file a bug
[21:02] <xan_it> on launchpad?
[21:02] <matanya> yes
[21:03] <matanya> or upstream on gnome if you can prove it is gnome's fault
[21:03] <xan_it> actually i see that my second pc have same wifi card and works good
[21:03] <GunnarHj> mterry: I'll try that now. Otherwise I'm getting mentally prepared to start it all over. You can spend your time better than fixing some stupid mistake I did...
[21:03] <matanya> with the same os/driver etc xan_it ?
[21:03] <mterry> GunnarHj, :)  As long as you're not losing any important data, no big deal in starting over, yeah
[21:04] <bennypr0fane> still my Gnome Shell topic though: if Canonical still fix problems in 3.6 (that I'm sure they will, as there's a Gnome flavoured release 2nd ed now), at some point they might decide it's been trained well enough to be ok for LTS, yes? I mean sounds like it could happen to me...?
[21:04] <xan_it> same uname -a
[21:04] <matanya> bennypr0fane: try to figure that out at #ubuntu-gnome
[21:05] <Afteraffekt> matanya, I am placing my WIn 8 installer back on my USB drive, heres to hoping it can see my drive now
[21:05] <GunnarHj> mterry: I can access and copy /home from my main partition. Then it's mostly the dev tools I need to reinstall.
[21:05] <matanya> best of luck Afteraffekt
[21:05] <GunnarHj> mterry: But I'll give it a try. Thanks a lot for your help!
[21:05] <bennypr0fane> matanya, good call
[21:05] <Leif> Does anyone know if I can get multiple cursers on ubuntu?
[21:05] <matanya> you can Leif
[21:06] <Leif> matanya: Thanks. I've been googling it without much luck, would you know how?
[21:06] <matanya> with more than one mice Leif ?
[21:07] <Leif> matanya: With one device that can recognize multiple touches preferably.
[21:07] <Leif> matanya: I did get multiple cursors showing up with two mice plugged in.
[21:07] <matanya> didn't test it ever.
[21:07] <Leif> matanya: Although it was very buggy.
[21:08] <Leif> matanya: Rats, thanks anyway.
[21:08] <matanya> np
[21:08] <genii-around> Leif: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/MPX
[21:11] <mterry> GunnarHj, yw!
[21:11] <matanya> genii-around: may i pm?
[21:11] <Leif> genii-around: Thanks
[21:13] <otend_> ...
[21:13] <Izak> lcad
[21:13] <otend_> that last update seems to have been rather damaging.
[21:14] <toshiba> hi
[21:14] <toshiba> not able to install skype
[21:15] <reddeath68> I am having trouble finding and installing a friver for a realtek wifi card with chipset rtl8185 Everytime i try to install using the direction given i get a mess of errors, I am running ubuntu 13.04 and yes I am running the commands as sudo
[21:15] <toshiba> any1 can help me installing skype
[21:15] <toshiba> ?
[21:16] <reddeath68> toshiba whats the problem are you getting errors?
[21:16] <yeats> !skype | toshiba
[21:17] <reddeath68> any help for my problem i am finding most of the drivers provided are only for kernel 2.6
[21:17] <genii-around> matanya: I'm leaving soon, so if you have any questions, there is probably not much time to ask them in
[21:18] <toshiba> reddeath68: donknow, but i guess i have been able to install, but not able to launch
[21:18] <reddeath68> what did you do to install toshiba?
[21:19] <smoke> how do i view a crash log i used "last" and i can see the entry where it crashes how do i view that entry?
[21:20] <|thunder> I am making a ubuntu usb-stick from current iso. "sudo dd if=./ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdc". How can I test the integrity of the stick against the ISO? Thoughts anyone?
[21:20] <matanya> smoke: look in /var/crash/
[21:20] <xan_it> matanya solved, but i dont know how, i can explain to you ?
[21:20] <smoke> thanks
[21:20] <matanya> |thunder: look at md5 sums
[21:21] <matanya> xan_it: no, i don't know
[21:21] <xan_it> i have found this command "echo "options hp_wmi wireless=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/hp_wmi.conf"
[21:22] <SolarisB1y> |thunder: wc -c file.iso
[21:23] <SolarisB1y> |thunder: dd if=/dev/copied | head -c > <offset> | md5sum
[21:23] <SolarisB1y> |thunder: offset returned from first command
[21:24] <|thunder> SolarisB1y, I'm not sure what this does, Manually creates an md5?
[21:25] <SolarisB1y> you want to verify integrity of an iso (file) that you copied to a disk (block device)
[21:25] <Fuzzles> my libeoffice spell check for uk isnt working?
[21:25] <SolarisB1y> there will be extra characters so a simple md5sum is not sufficient what that does is finds the size of the iso and only performs a sum on that part of the disk you copied the iso too
[21:25] <SolarisB1y> it should generate the same sum as md5sum file.iso
[21:26] <SolarisB1y> if it does - you have verified integrity
[21:26] <SolarisB1y> |thunder: ^
[21:26] <TheUsD> So I just installed Zentyal, started to do its configuration on another machine, it gets hung at 52% and now I cannot HTTPS back into the server...
[21:26] <TheUsD> what should I try? I've already tried installing it again, but it sees its there
[21:27] <dichotoPangea> Hey, I'm looking for a little help on creating screencasts?
[21:28] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: what do you need to know?
[21:28] <dichotoPangea> I've been trying to record Minecraft, but to nothing.
[21:28] <SolarisB1y> interesting - how are you doing this?
[21:29] <dichotoPangea> The best I've got is with Kazam, but I only get one frame every five seconds.
[21:29] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: try using ffmpeg directly
[21:29] <dichotoPangea> And how would I do that?
[21:29] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: example: 'ffmpeg -y -t 00:15:30 -f x11grab -r 25 -s 1920x1080 -i :0.0 -sameq /tmp/screenCast.flv'
[21:29] <SolarisB1y> you may want to review your xrandr output for proper resolution to deploy
[21:30] <AnonAMouse> I have re-partitioned my drive so I have 8.2GB of swapspace. Upon resume I got this http://i.imgur.com/w6fxIjB.jpg I pressed enter. What did that mean?
[21:30] <dichotoPangea> Whoa, slow down.
[21:30] <SolarisB1y> in that example i record 15 minutes and 30 seconds
[21:30] <dichotoPangea> Yeah.
[21:30] <dichotoPangea> What if I don't know how long I'll be recording for?
[21:31] <SolarisB1y> remove the -t and it's argument
[21:31] <dichotoPangea> And how do I stop it?
[21:31] <SolarisB1y> which causes it to run indefinitely stopped by 'q' within the window it was run in
[21:31] <SolarisB1y> ^
[21:31] <dichotoPangea> Ah.
[21:31] <dichotoPangea> But 'Q' is a bound key in Minecraft, can I change it?
[21:32] <SolarisB1y> no and it shouldn't matter because the focus wont be on mindcraft when you hit q
[21:32] <dichotoPangea> Or do I have to change MC controls?
[21:32] <SolarisB1y> it willbe on a shell
[21:32] <dichotoPangea> Oh ok.
[21:32] <SolarisB1y> there is an alternate method also a CTRL sequence - it's displayed when you run the program
[21:33] <SolarisB1y> yea 'Press ctrl-c to stop encoding'
[21:33] <dichotoPangea> Okay.
[21:33] <dichotoPangea> Can I change the output format or do I have to reencode?
[21:33] <SolarisB1y> additionally you can record in other formats than flv if you desired just change the file extension and relative options
[21:33] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: you can
[21:34] <dichotoPangea> Okay. I need .avi for the YouTubes, correct?
[21:34] <SolarisB1y> .avi - but remember you may invalidate some of the options so you may want to read up on what opts the various containers take
[21:34] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: think so. you can encode to flv and re-encode or just encode directly to avi - ill tell you avi can get huge from screencasting very quick
[21:35] <dichotoPangea> Yeah, but YouTube doesn't support .flv, right?
[21:35] <dichotoPangea> Or do they?
[21:35] <SolarisB1y> not sure really haven't uploaded in a while - i think avi is the safe bet. but it's more than definitely specified on the youtube site if you need to be sure
[21:36] <enrico__> hi!
[21:37] <TheUsD> Hello, I just installed Zentyal 3.0 and started to configure it on the HTTPS, after finishing configuring it and it was doing the finalizing it got to 52% and hung. I restarted the computer but now I cannot get access to the HTTPS anymore, any thoughts?
[21:37] <SolarisB1y> TheUsD: is there any log file for that application? or does it log somewhere general? probably need to look there to see whats going on
[21:38] <TheUsD> 5 day old ubuntu user, gots not clue.
[21:40] <TheUsD> update; I can access it locally with my public IP...but not on another computer with the public ip...
[21:40] <SolarisB1y> possibly there is a ACL on the webserver or a rule in the firewall that is actively denying
[21:40] <SolarisB1y> what response do you get? refused? HTTP errors?
[21:41] <dichotoPangea> SolarisB1y: Where would I find the video on my system?
[21:41] <TheUsD> solarisbly: great point, just installed the firewall, duh, didnt think of that.
[21:41] <dichotoPangea> And would it record audio?
[21:42] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: its user defined and yes it can record audio not in that case you didn't tell it to
[21:42] <dichotoPangea> How do I tell it to record audio?
[21:42] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: what kind of mic do you have? is it a stand alone or is attached to some other device like a web cam or so?
[21:43] <dichotoPangea> I have a mic on a headset, but I don't think it gets picked up by my computer. I also have a built-in one and one on a webcam.
[21:44] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: try 'aplay -L' to list the recording devices - find yours
[21:44] <sianhulo> hey guys, I have a question. why most of the files are now being run with gedit?I mean, .bin .bundle .sh formatless could be opened witha  double-click after it being marked as executable, now all of them open with gedit and the only way to run them is through console, why is this?
[21:44] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: look for the line like 'card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC888 Digital [ALC888 Digital]'
[21:44] <dichotoPangea> Don't really know what the output means
[21:44] <SolarisB1y> im trying to explain it....
[21:44] <dichotoPangea> card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic]?
[21:44] <SolarisB1y> anyway take the card number and the device number and add it to the same command i previous gave you once you figure it out
[21:45] <dichotoPangea> I don't know which one I'm using.
[21:45] <toshiba> thank you guyzzz....
[21:45] <toshiba> i was able to install skipe
[21:45] <SolarisB1y> like i said - review the output for your card - you should atleast know your card name come on
[21:45] <modernbob> anyone know if there is a netbook "version" of ubuntu.. I know I saw something like that at one time
[21:45] <SolarisB1y> if not - you need to figure it out -
[21:45] <toshiba> gentlemen, I have got a major issue...
[21:45] <utfans05> modernbob: they rolled it into the current release
[21:46] <dichotoPangea> How do I find out my card? And I want to use the mic on my webcam.
[21:46] <modernbob> utfans05: reason I ask is the video on this netbook is stupid pokey
[21:46] <utfans05> modernbob: are you using the stock drivers that came with it or do you have a dedicated card
[21:46] <SolarisB1y> once you do - this is how you would do audio as well. ffmpeg -y -t 00:15:30 -f x11grab -r 25 -s 1920x1080 -i :0.0 -f alsa -i plughw:0,1 -acodec libmp3lame -ab 128k  sameq /tmp/vagrantIPsoftClientAutomation.flv
[21:46] <toshiba> i installed ubuntu 13.04
[21:47] <toshiba> and den wanted to go on rpm version of linux as well
[21:47] <SolarisB1y> remember to replace the plughw:0,1 with your actual card and device numbers
[21:47] <toshiba> so went for fedora
[21:47] <SolarisB1y> and you may need to swap codecs depending on what your mic takes
[21:47] <toshiba> but fedora din't get installed....
[21:47] <SolarisB1y> play with it - ill brb
[21:47] <deltanine> video and ubuntu oh the joys (i havnt been able to stop the screen tearing after tens of hours and hundreds of threads later) i gave up and deal with it
[21:47] <toshiba> rather formatted all d drives of ma pc
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> toshiba  don't hit the enter key too often, it's getting a headache
[21:48] <toshiba> is dere any way to fix that?
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> toshiba  now repeat all that in one line
[21:49] <prime_> @search jumpstart to skinny
[21:49] <prime_> oops sorry
[21:49] <speckmade1> Need help with UbuntuOne command line shit. I've got UbuntuOne daemon running and now I want it to connect to my UbuntuOne account.
[21:50] <toshiba> i installed ubuntu 13.04 and then wanted to migrate on fedora but wasn't able to install fedora rather fedora setup formatted all the drives of pc.....is there any way to recover the data back
[21:50] <SolarisB1y> speckmade1: you should open the gui and do that
[21:50] <SolarisB1y> speckmade1: the u1tool isn't very helpful in practice for me
[21:50] <speckmade1> I can't access any GUI
[21:50] <SolarisB1y> ahh nice
[21:50] <dichotoPangea> SolarisB1y, I get this: http://pastebin.com/hz6Njdz3
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> !recover | toshiba
[21:51] <speckmade1> SolarisB1y: that's more or less the problem
[21:51] <wildwind> toshiba: your drives seem ready to install Ubuntu back
[21:51] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: as stated make sure you confirm your resolution with xrandr first
[21:51] <toshiba> yepp...
[21:51] <toshiba> i installed ubuntu back
[21:51] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: type xrandr and look for the res with the asterix next to it change the -s 1920x1080 to your res
[21:52] <SolarisB1y> speckmade1: i see one second not sure if you can do it all from cli - ill check.
[21:52] <wildwind> toshiba: installsd already? then it's a bit too late to rescue data... relax
[21:53] <wildwind> toshiba: (joke)
[21:53] <toshiba> is it?
[21:54] <wildwind> toshiba: was there anything really valuable? worth hours of routine recovery work?
[21:54] <speckmade1> SolarisB1y: I read I have to get an OAuth key somehow and enter it into the config file. There's a guide with a python script that's supposed to get me the key - but it just fails for me.
[21:54] <dichotoPangea> Now I get this: http://pastebin.com/QtMPdSKq
[21:54] <SolarisB1y> speckmade1: correct and the OathKey afaik is created in a pop default browser window
[21:54] <toshiba> yepp...
[21:54] <SolarisB1y> *popup
[21:54] <toshiba> my apps were dere
[21:55] <toshiba> developed by me
[21:55] <wildwind> toshiba: what your drice partitioning is?
[21:55] <toshiba> i have kept 1 for dos
[21:55] <toshiba> and another fat 32
[21:55] <wildwind> toshiba: was your data on / (system) or separate partition?
[21:56] <dichotoPangea> SolarisB1y: Now I get this: http://pastebin.com/QtMPdSKq
[21:56] <toshiba> wildwind : data was on windows filesystem
[21:56] <toshiba> in my pc only
[21:56] <wildwind> toshiba: oh
[21:57] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: do me a favor when you copy.paste to pastie include the command you ran - did you change the extension?
[21:57] <SolarisB1y> if so -sameq may have been defuncted - if so remove it and try
[21:57] <SolarisB1y> or rather - it seems you may have a typo if it's looking at sameq as  a filename and not a arg - so again what command did you run?
[21:57] <wildwind> toshiba: do you know where in the drive it was? start, end sectors
[21:57] <dichotoPangea> The command was
[21:58] <dichotoPangea> ffmpeg -y -f x11grab -r 25 -s 1366x768 -i :0.0 -f alsa -i plughw:2,0 -acodec libmp3lame -ab 128k  sameq /tmp/vagrantIPsoftClientAutomation.flv
[21:58] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: -sameq
[21:58] <toshiba> wildwind : nope
[21:58] <toshiba> :(
[21:58] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: seems a - got lost in traslation you need to add one in front of sameq it should be -sameq
[21:58] <th0r> toshiba: have you looked at those partitions to see if they are really reformatted? It would be worth mounting each to a temp mountpoint and checking...there is a chance the data is still there
[21:58] <SolarisB1y> the rest looks fine .
[21:58] <dichotoPangea> Okay, new error.
[21:58] <SolarisB1y> ill be back going to smoke
[21:58] <SolarisB1y> .... hurry -
[21:58] <wildwind> toshiba: bad
[21:58] <toshiba> yea
[21:59] <speckmade1> SolarisB1y: the python script says "ImportError: No module named simplejson"
[22:00] <toshiba> wildwind : any chance?
[22:00] <SolarisB1y> speckmade1: you may need to install it
[22:00] <SolarisB1y> speckmade1: sudo pip install simpljson or grab it with apt-get (actually do that first)
[22:00] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: the error?
[22:01] <wildwind> toshiba: basically there's two approaches: more intelligent - recover filesystem and more brute-force - blindly search for file signatures and pray they were not fragmented. there's utilities for both
[22:01] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: your prolonging my smoke break =)
[22:01] <dichotoPangea> http://pastebin.com/vkWGEfGi
[22:01] <toshiba> tell me the intelligent 1 first :D
[22:02] <SolarisB1y> ok flv container doesn't like the args hmm try with no audio - so remove '-f alsa -i plughw:2,0 -acodec libmp3lame -ab 128k ' if you can get it working - you will need to build a new command up with non offensive args
[22:02] <SolarisB1y> its most likely the audio bit rate or the the encoding of the audio
[22:02] <wildwind> toshiba: btw are you sure you didn't full format drive/partitions in the process?
[22:03] <toshiba> wildwind :not sure
[22:03] <wildwind> toshiba: (
[22:03] <SolarisB1y> yea dichotoPangea read the output you posted: '[libmp3lame @ 0x96fac40] flv does not support that sample rate, choose from (44100, 22050, 11025).'
[22:03] <toshiba> wildwind : well, i don't think, i attempt that...
[22:03] <SolarisB1y> change the -ab parameter to one of those they listed there -
[22:04] <SolarisB1y> dichotoPangea: ^^ ill brb ok?
[22:04] <dichotoPangea> Which is best?
[22:04] <SolarisB1y> the highest assuming your audio is spitting it out at that rate
[22:04] <dichotoPangea> Alrighty.
[22:04] <SolarisB1y> so change the -ab arg to one of those ones
[22:05] <dichotoPangea> Will any one do?
[22:05] <Iceman_B> hello hello
[22:05] <wildwind> toshiba: for the first approach to work you have to determine somehow start sector of lost partition (mandatory) and end sector (preferable)
[22:06] <wildwind> toshiba: btw didn't you use Github or something for your code?
[22:06] <toshiba> nope
[22:06] <toshiba> i shud have used :(
[22:06] <wildwind> toshiba: consider that )
[22:06] <toshiba> yepp...
[22:07] <Iceman_B> can someone help me with my network config?
[22:07] <Iceman_B> for some reason, the NIC gets diabled during the boot
[22:08] <toshiba> wildwind : u r programmer as well?
[22:08] <Iceman_B> and the connection led on the router goes out, but during POST, everything was fine
[22:08] <elisa87> how can I remove this directory? rm -rf doesn't work rm: cannot remove `cpt.5148062184500/.nfs00000000000a29e5000000b5': Device or resource busy
[22:08] <Iceman_B> how does this happen ?
[22:08] <wildwind> toshiba: to recover NTFS there's lot of commercial utilities: Easy Recovery, ZAR, etc.
[22:08] <wildwind> toshiba: yes
[22:09] <toshiba> okay...will try then, mate!
[22:09] <toshiba> meanwhile i am installing skype under root...
[22:09] <wildwind> toshiba: DMDE also, used it myself
[22:09] <toshiba> will that be accessible to a user?
[22:10] <toshiba> wildwind : oki
[22:11] <wildwind> toshiba: the latter has free version btw
[22:11] <toshiba> oki
[22:11] <toshiba> wildwind: m installing skype under root, will that be accessible to user?
[22:12] <wildwind> toshiba: you mean via sudo?
[22:12] <toshiba> yepp
[22:12] <wildwind> toshiba: i think there's no other way to install
[22:12] <toshiba> Aw!
[22:13] <tt> hey, does anyone else find that with dnsmasq enabled (as it is by default), DNS flakes out for seconds or minutes at a time?
[22:15] <wildwind> tt: bad link?
[22:15] <tt> nope
[22:15] <tt> found it
[22:15] <tt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2098855
[22:16] <tt> what happens is NetworkManager switches networks, kills the old dnsmasq, and starts a new one
[22:16] <tt> if killing the old one is too slow, the new one can't open a listening socket
[22:16] <tt> and until you switch networks again, you have no DNS
[22:16] <wildwind> tt: wow
[22:18] <speckmade1> SolarisB1y: python modules - alright. I got the OAuth key and tried to put it into the syncdaemon.conf
[22:19] <speckmade1> SolarisB1y: that one was empty (or didn't exist) - now I'm not sure whether it was sucessful.
[22:20] <tester> hi
[22:20] <speckmade1> SolarisB1y: u1sdtool --status: description: ready to connect; is_online: False; is_connected: False
[22:21] <wildwind> tt: dnsmasq can be told new dns server address via DBus or poll resolv.conf for changes. why restart?
[22:22] <SolarisB1y> speckmade1: try u1sdtool --connect and then 'watch u1sdtool --status'
[22:24] <speckmade1> SolarisB1y: did that already and placed a test file into the ~/Ubuntu One
[22:24] <speckmade1> SolarisB1y: now status changed to "queues: WORKING"
[22:25] <SolarisB1y> speckmade1: tail -f ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/*.log also you may get better info as to what it's working on
[22:27] <TheUsD> Toshiba: a very powerful data recovery tool for NTFS is GetitbackNTFS
[22:27] <TheUsD> you can find it on any Hirens CD.
[22:27] <speckmade1> SolarisB1y: dbus.String(u'Can not find a GUI to present to the user (tried with "(dbus.String(u\'ubuntu-sso-login-qt\'), \'ubuntu-sso-login-qt\')"). Aborting.')
[22:27] <speckmade1> SolarisB1y: raise NoAccessToken(e)
[22:27] <SolarisB1y> ouch
[22:28] <SolarisB1y> well looks like you'll need a gui - maybe you can install xlibs and do this over a Xforwarded ssh session, assuming that would work maybe it will popopen whatever on your remote box
[22:29] <TheUsD> toshiba: download a hirens .iso, burn it to cd and boot into min-xp and then run the GetitbackNTFS.
[22:30] <TheUsD> toshiba: they are up to like hirens 15xx or maybe even 16.xx but my favorite is 10.2
[22:33] <iceroot> is there a way to have more then one buffer for copy&paste globally for the x-server? so that for example ctrl +c+1 will work with ctrl v+1 and ctrl +c+2 and ctrl +v+2 or something like that? so that i can hold more then one buffer globally
[22:33] <Iceman_B> is there any way to initialise my network card?
[22:34] <iceroot> Iceman_B: initialise?
[22:34] <Iceman_B> every now and then, it seems like ubuntu turns off my NIC during boot
[22:34] <Iceman_B> so no network connection ever goes up
[22:34] <deckard> hello. Would someone mind taking a look at this pastebin and telling me if installing VPN software caused this problem? http://pastebin.com/aWVzBs7s
[22:34] <Iceman_B> but all the cables etc are fine
[22:35] <Iceman_B> its just that the lights on the router for the specific cable goes out when the network is first being....started
[22:35] <iceroot> Iceman_B: what is the output of "sudo ifup eth0"
[22:35] <tt> ...is it normal for pulseaudio to chew ~10% of a core just to play music?
[22:35] <Iceman_B> iceroot:I think its up now, lemme see
[22:36] <Iceman_B> "ifup: interface eth0 already configured"
[22:36] <Iceman_B> but all I did was a reboot
[22:37] <iceroot> Iceman_B: and the network is working now?
[22:38] <speckmade1> SolarisB1y: I tend to just swear for now. Didn't they want to make money with that? Don't wanna get Dropbox because of non-free client... :-/ Thanks so far, anyway.
[22:38] <SolarisB1y> deckard: seems to be from lack of support for 32 bit libraries rather than VPN installation.
[22:39] <deckard> they are all installed though :/
[22:39] <toshiba> i installed skype under root, now while logging in, it is throwing an error that skype can't log u in as u r already logged in.PLease logout and try again
[22:39] <deckard> each one is the most current
[22:39] <otak> iceroot: i think parcellite remembers all your copy items
[22:39] <deckard> i even created a new user and same issue SolarisB1y
[22:39] <SolarisB1y> speckmade1: yea i never noticed that actually =( and i aggree i opted for ubuntu one because it was the "ubuntu" thing to do - but i have had my head aches and the support has been pretty lame about it (actual ubuntu support not in here)
[22:39] <iceroot> otak: i will have a look, i also found glipper
[22:40] <toshiba> !skype
[22:40] <tt> ugh, ekiga
[22:40] <toshiba> i installed skype under root, now while logging in, it is throwing an error that skype can't log u in as u r already logged in.PLease logout and try
[22:40] <deckard> SolarisB1y, maybe the live cd and repair it all?
[22:40] <toshiba> can any 1 help me?
[22:41] <SolarisB1y> deckard: interesting - there are some other errors in the script exection as well - missing directories etc etc
[22:41] <rypervenche> toshiba: sudo killall skype
[22:41] <deckard> yes i have no idea how
[22:41] <toshiba> while logging into root?
[22:41] <deckard> it worked then in installed Astrill vpn client and whamo
[22:41] <rypervenche> toshiba: You don't need the sudo if you are already root.
[22:41] <rypervenche> toshiba: just "killall skype"
[22:41] <toshiba> oki
[22:41] <SolarisB1y> deckard: strange
[22:41] <rypervenche> toshiba: Then restart skype and try to log in.
[22:42] <SolarisB1y> deckard: are you sure you didn't run it from a specific location and now your not there?
[22:42] <deckard> i have done nothing different  SolarisB1y
[22:42] <SolarisB1y> '/home/deckard/Phoenix_Firestorm-Release_i686_4.4.0.33720/firestorm: line 98: ./etc/register_hopprotocol.sh: No such file or directory' this is looking to execute relative to a ./etc
[22:42] <deckard> always ran from home
[22:42] <SolarisB1y> do you have ./etc/register_hopprotocol.sh under where you ran that from?
[22:42] <deckard> i dont know
[22:43] <SolarisB1y> you should check because that script is calling something that it expects there - so it should probably be there - i have no idea what the script deoes or how fatal that not being there is
[22:43] <Iceman_B> iceroot: yes, its working now
[22:43] <Iceman_B> when it's not working, I get something like "no broadcast device" or something
[22:43] <deckard> will live cd offer the ability to reset ubutnu half partition pretty pain free?
[22:43] <deckard> SolarisB1y,
[22:44] <SolarisB1y> deckard: something else you would want to do is rn this script with verbosity - if it is a shell script you can do /bin/sh -x <script>
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[22:44] <SolarisB1y> deckard: what do you mean reset?
[22:44] <toshiba> *no
[22:44] <deckard> i just mean i dont have any files i care about and i dont want to instal ubuntu again. can i just repair it or set it back to default ?
[22:44] <deckard> i dont want to install windows then ubuntu etc...
[22:45] <SolarisB1y> there is no revert point or default state you can revert to
[22:45] <SolarisB1y> not unless you have some mechanism for saving that state previously
[22:45] <SolarisB1y> you can operate on partitions from the live CD though - not sure if it is for what you want
[22:46] <deckard> So i cant just tell ubuntu to reset everything to fresh install without actually having to install windows again the the ubuntu duel boot?
[22:46] <SolarisB1y> deckard: you can probably overwrite the current installation if thats what your asking
[22:47] <deckard> yes, but is it easy?
[22:47] <SolarisB1y> and it *should* respect that windows is still there and still provide facility for easy dual boot setup - but i have never done that so can't confirm
[22:47] <SolarisB1y> deckard: ::shrugs::
[22:47] <SolarisB1y> i guess its with pictures in a gui =)
[22:47] <deckard> ugh, ty for your help though :)
[22:47] <SolarisB1y> np netime
[22:47] <antony_> hey guys im using ubuntu 13.04  and ive install classic gnome-panel and  compiz  but theres no wobbly windows or cube option can anyone help me out?
[22:48] <SolarisB1y> antony_: those effects are enabled with special hardware what card (graphics) do you have?
[22:48] <antony_> nivdia 560ti
[22:48] <SolarisB1y> antony_: are you actually using the nvidia drivers or the open source drivers?
[22:49] <antony_> nvidia
[22:49] <antony_> theres no option for wobbly windows, its almost like most of the features are missing in compiz
[22:49] <SolarisB1y> odd thought that enabled them - unless your card still isn't supported despite being nvidia
[22:49] <antony_> its worked on previous version of ubuntu
[22:50] <rypervenche> toshiba: killall -9 skype. If that doesn't work, try to move the ~/.Skype folder out of the way and restart Skype.
[22:51] <sianhulo>  hey guys, I have a question. why most of the files are now being run with gedit?I mean, .bin .bundle .sh formatless could be opened witha  double-click after it being marked as executable, now all of them open with gedit and the only way to run them is through console, why is this?the only one that I've been able to execute as I did before is .run
[22:52] <SolarisB1y> sianhulo: are those files on your desktop?
[22:52] <Soyo> I have some mp4 videos I shot on my Galaxy S3.. After finally getting MTP installed and coping them over they are playing really slow. The audio isn't matching the video and the video is like 1 frame per minute. I have the latest codecs 1.1.6 but didn't help. I suppose they might be in HD and its just too much but I have a dual core processor and ATi card on my Acer Ferrari One. Maybe I need to convert them to DV using ffmpeg if I
[22:52] <sianhulo> SolarisB1y, yes
[22:52] <Soyo> Ultimately I want to edit them in Kino
[22:52] <SolarisB1y> sianhulo: the mime type on the desktop is likely configured to open them in gedit
[22:53] <SolarisB1y> Soyo: yes convert with ffmpeg - also you may want to look at using the ffmpeg ppa for the latest av codecs/libs
[22:53] <sianhulo> SolarisB1y, I don't know what you mean by mime, but this is out-of-the-box as this is fresh install, and this didn't happen in previous releases
[22:53] <SolarisB1y> i had some problems with that that went away after the two
[22:54] <Iceman_B> for the average home/study use, should I create all new paritions as Ext4, opposed to Ext2/3 ?
[22:54] <Soyo> SolarisB1y: thanks
[22:54] <sianhulo> basically what I need is to be able to click .bin .bundle and the such for opening them, like it did before
[22:55] <BobJonkman> Iceman_B: I've been using ext4 for everything for years, no problems anywhere.
[22:55] <sianhulo> also, is there a way to add more apps to the "open with"option?
[22:57] <SolarisB1y> sianhulo: open with other applications generally remembers what you chose AFAIK
[22:57] <Iceman_B> BobJonkman: hokay
[22:57] <SolarisB1y> sianhulo: that dialouge actually updates the mime associations for the file
[22:57] <sianhulo> SolarisB1y, but I don't open it with any other program, I jus olpen theme
[22:57] <deckard> Can someone tell me if it is possible to just set the ubuntu half of my duel boot back to its original first time install settings and files?
[22:58] <SolarisB1y> yes and you just need to tell it to be open by a script interpreter and not a text editor
[22:58] <sianhulo> SolarisB1y, /path-to-the-file on terminal and it opens
[22:58] <BobJonkman> Iceman_B: OTOH, I've been seeing some errors when I use ecryptfs on home directories
[22:58] <SolarisB1y> ok....
[22:58] <sianhulo> SolarisB1y, it's not on the options
[22:58] <BobJonkman> Iceman_B: I think there may actually be a years-long bug open for ecryptfs... (/me goes off to search Launchpad)
[22:59] <nikola_> guys, when I run from terminal "java -jar someapp.jar" it works
[22:59] <nikola_> from some directory
[23:00] <nikola_> but when I write a sh file, I doesnt work
[23:00] <nikola_> says : RemoteDroidServer
[23:00] <nikola_> ups
[23:00] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: wpost the shell file
[23:00] <nikola_> says: failed to execute child process  (no such file or directory)
[23:00] <sianhulo> nikola_, does the path have any " "space
[23:01] <nikola_> no
[23:01] <nikola_> it doesnt
[23:01] <nikola_> solarisbly, I dont understand you
[23:01] <nikola_> nothing's wrong with the path
[23:01] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: post the code for the script to paste bin
[23:02] <nikola_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714996/
[23:02] <nikola_> this one doesnt work
[23:02] <nikola_> but running directly from terminal, it works
[23:02] <BobJonkman> Iceman_B: Seems there are some 191 bugs on ecryptfs, some incurring data loss.  I think I'll stay away from ecryptfs in the future... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=ecryptfs
[23:04] <sianhulo> nikola_, how were you trying yo run it again?
[23:04] <nikola_> I can do it manually, from terminal
[23:04] <nikola_> just cd the path
[23:04] <iceroot> how is an encrypted swap working? where is the key coming from and where is it stored? / is not encrypted, just /home
[23:04] <nikola_>  and java -jar RemoteDroidServer.jar
[23:04] <sianhulo> I mean the script that isn't working
[23:05] <sianhulo> let's suppose that its name is "script", how are you running it?
[23:05] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: that should work fine
[23:05] <SolarisB1y> what was the output from it?
[23:06] <nikola_> failed to execute child process  (no such file or directory)
[23:06] <monstar> im looking for a program i use to use to look for wire drivers but i forgot the name any help please
[23:06] <sianhulo> nikola_, what comman are you using to run the script
[23:06] <SolarisB1y> i have a feeling this is from your jar
[23:07] <SolarisB1y> i just created a test jar to output hello world and mimic'd your script
[23:07] <SolarisB1y> it works fine
[23:07] <nikola_> sianhulo, I open terminal, cd the path and then "java -jar RemoteDroidServer.jar
[23:07] <sianhulo> nikola_, I mean the script, the one tha tisn't working
[23:08] <nikola_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714996/
[23:08] <sianhulo> nikola_, you are telling me what's inside the script, I don't want that, I just want to know how are you running that script
[23:08] <nikola_> double click
[23:08] <nikola_> :D
[23:08] <SolarisB1y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715010/
[23:08] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: sianhulo it seems it should work ^^
[23:09] <SolarisB1y> it seems it's the jar emitting the message of child processes - even in the bash script no child processes are spawned its all sequential in one shell
[23:09] <nikola_> what shall I do?
[23:09] <SolarisB1y> figure out whats wrong with the jar
[23:10] <nikola_> nothing is wrong. works perfectly when started from terminal
[23:10] <Iceman_B> lo again
[23:11] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: can you add a -x after your shebang for kicks and post the output?
[23:12] <nikola_> solarisbly, I'm not english native speaker, please no slang.
[23:12] <nikola_> where do I add -x?
[23:12] <SolarisB1y> shebang isn't slang it's the header on the top of the bash script
[23:12] <SolarisB1y> #!/bin/bash -x
[23:12] <nikola_> sorry
[23:12] <SolarisB1y> no need to be
[23:13] <nikola_> now, script doesnt work, but no error message showing
[23:13] <nikola_> lol
[23:13] <SolarisB1y> hard to believe
[23:13] <nikola_> RemoteDroidServer.sh: 2: cd: can't cd to /home/nikola/RemoteDroidServer
[23:13] <nikola_> Error: Unable to access jarfile RemoteDroidServer.jar
[23:13] <SolarisB1y> what i thought
[23:14] <SolarisB1y> ^^ kindly make sure directories exist
[23:14] <nikola_> that happens when script being run from terminal
[23:14] <marko-_-> hello. I try to make a bootable USB for opensuse and i'm making it on ubuntu via usb-creator and when i select and open the image it won't load it
[23:15] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: do this one: [ -d /home/nikola/RemoteDroidServer ] && echo "exists" || echo "missing"
[23:15] <SolarisB1y> if it says exists its ok - if it says missing its not - fair?
[23:15] <nikola_> I renamed it all to abc
[23:15] <nikola_> still nothing :p
[23:15] <SolarisB1y> hard to believe
[23:16] <nikola_> abc.sh: 2: cd: can't cd to /home/nikola/abc
[23:16] <nikola_> Error: Unable to access jarfile abc.jar
[23:16] <SolarisB1y> dude you dont have that directory - lol
[23:16] <SolarisB1y> the directory is _not_ there
[23:16] <nikola_> really?
[23:16] <bekks> Nope.
[23:16] <SolarisB1y> make sure you know where the jar is - yes really
[23:16] <sianhulo> nikola_, iis there a folder called abc?
[23:16] <bekks> You dont access permissions to that directory.
[23:16] <SolarisB1y> not if you just renamed everything to that -
[23:16] <nikola_> how do I proove that to you?
[23:16] <SolarisB1y> or like bekks said - you dont have access
[23:16] <nikola_> printscreen?
[23:16] <nikola_> ssh
[23:16] <SolarisB1y> ^^
[23:17] <marko-_-> guys any help?
[23:17] <bekks> ls -lha
[23:17] <nikola_> seriously
[23:17] <SolarisB1y> yes
[23:17] <sianhulo> nikola_, is the file on a folder called abc or is it in your home folder?
[23:17] <nikola_> nikola@blackbox:~$ ls
[23:17] <nikola_> 1024.sh  3weiT  Desktop    Downloads  Nikin PC  Public     Videos
[23:17] <nikola_> 1400.sh  abc    Documents  Music      Pictures  Templates
[23:17] <marko-_-> hello. I try to make a bootable USB for opensuse and i'm making it on ubuntu via usb-creator and when i select and open the image it won't load it
[23:17] <nikola_> nikola@blackbox:~$ cd abc
[23:17] <nikola_> nikola@blackbox:~/abc$ ls
[23:17] <nikola_> abc.jar  abc.sh  abc.sh~  README.txt  RemoteDroidServer.sh~
[23:17] <nikola_> all pasted
[23:17] <pragmaticenigma> !openelec > pragmaticenigma
[23:17] <FloodBot1> nikola_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:18] <SolarisB1y> our script said this "cd /home/nikola/RemoteDroidServer/" and the first error said this RemoteDroidServer.sh: 2: cd: can't cd to /home/nikola/RemoteDroidServer , thats from bash, the last error Error: Unable to access jarfile RemoteDroidServer.jar is from java
[23:18] <marko-_-> Good. Now you can help me
[23:18] <marko-_-> :)
[23:18] <SolarisB1y> because it can't find it - maybe you don't own /home/nikola/RemoteDroidServer like bekks mentioned
[23:18] <marko-_-> hello. I try to make a bootable USB for opensuse and i'm making it on ubuntu via usb-creator and when i select and open the image it won't load it
[23:18] <marko-_-> ubuntu 13.04 gnome
[23:18] <nikola_> I run it with sudo
[23:18] <marko-_-> when i select the .iso file
[23:18] <sianhulo> marko-_-, be more speecific
[23:18] <nikola_> i'm admin
[23:19] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: now do this ls -ltrh ${HOME}/ and see who owns that folder and if you have permissions to execute etc in it..
[23:19] <marko-_-> i run the GUI for usb-creator. It recognized my usb and everything. Then i select the image and it should pop in the program but it doesn't si
[23:19] <marko-_-> sianhulo
[23:19] <sianhulo> marko-_-, so you can't see the iso on the program?
[23:19] <marko-_-> no
[23:19] <marko-_-> it's 900mb big. Maybe the size is too big?
[23:20] <marko-_-> won't load it or something. But then why no error
[23:20] <sianhulo> marko-_-, I don't think the size should matter
[23:20] <rlh_> I have this software that is a server and it installs to mac OSX or windows.  Can i possibly make it work with ubuntu?
[23:20] <marko-_-> that's what she said
[23:20] <marko-_-> my first time saying this :p
[23:20] <nikola_> drwxrwxr-x 2 nikola nikola 4.0K May 30 01:15 abc
[23:20] <sianhulo> marko-_-, you are clicking on "other", right?
[23:20] <nikola_> -rwxrwxr-x 1 nikola nikola 65K Dec  1  2010 abc.jar
[23:20] <marko-_-> sianhulo, i can see it when i want to open it. Then i load it but it doesn't load it into the program
[23:20] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: and you can confirm that your user id is nikola?
[23:21] <nikola_> yes
[23:21] <sianhulo> marko-_-, NOW I get you
[23:21] <marko-_-> tried it under usb-creator-kde now
[23:21] <marko-_-> doesn't work either
[23:21] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: can you cd into that folder with no error?
[23:21] <histo> marko-_-: what image are you using?
[23:21] <sianhulo> marko-_-, it shouldn't as -kde would only add compatibility to kde enviroment
[23:21] <nikola_> yes
[23:21] <marko-_-> histo, openSUSE-12.3-GNOME-Live-x86_64.iso
[23:21] <sianhulo> marko-_-, can the iso be mounted?
[23:21] <marko-_-> how do i check that?
[23:22] <sianhulo> right click and there you should have the option
[23:22] <sianhulo> marko-_-,
[23:22] <histo> marko-_-: mount -o loop openSUSE...iso /mnt
[23:22] <marko-_-> yes
[23:22] <marko-_-> sianhulo, i can mount it and see the files
[23:22] <marko-_-> so the .iso file is okay
[23:22] <sianhulo> marko-_-, if no error I would go to the easy path, install unetbootin
[23:23] <histo> marko-_-: I would try using unetbootin possibly and you may want to ask the opensuse people as this has nothing to do with ubuntu. If they made a hybrid image you should be able to dd if=/path/to/opensuse.iso of=/dev/of/usb
[23:23] <histo> !info unetbootin | marko-_-
[23:23] <marko-_-> thanks. Searched for a different program in add/remove but didn't find this unetbootin
[23:23] <marko-_-> they should name it better
[23:23] <nikola_> I'm really crazy
[23:23] <histo> nikola_: well hide your crazy and act like a lady
[23:23] <sianhulo> marko-_-, sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[23:24] <marko-_-> i already have it :)
[23:24] <SolarisB1y> what were you running the command on the wrong server nikola_ ?
[23:24] <sianhulo> marko-_-, does it work now?
[23:24] <marko-_-> yes!
[23:24] <marko-_-> it loads the image
[23:24] <marko-_-> thanks
[23:24] <histo> nikola_: what is it you are trying to do?
[23:25] <marko-_-> histo and sianhulo thanks.
[23:25] <sianhulo> marko-_-, you're welcome
[23:26] <moses_> does anyone use wine?
[23:26] <SolarisB1y> every friday
[23:26] <moses_> lol
[23:26] <nikola_> is it possible to turn this jar file into something else?
[23:27] <moses_> I need help installing a windows program on ubuntu
[23:27] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: jar file is zip file unjar/zip it
[23:27] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: jar command works like tar command
[23:27] <marko-_-> histo, unetbootin is a kde fronted program?
[23:27] <sianhulo> moses_, not all programs will work
[23:28] <moses_> sianhulo: apparently the older version of wine works with this program
[23:28] <histo> nikola_: What are you trying to do just run a jar?  you just java somefile.jar
[23:28] <SolarisB1y> moses_: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[23:29] <histo> nikola_: or make it executable and should be able to ./somefile.jar
[23:29] <sianhulo> moses_, there's someone else with that name, I'd appreaciate if you changed your name to something else to reply to you more easily
[23:29] <SolarisB1y> histo: he was trying to get this script to work http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714996/
[23:29] <nikola_> histo, I know that, but I works only when run from terminal
[23:29] <nikola_> right
[23:29] <SolarisB1y> but he got errors which indicated he didn't have access to that folder
[23:29] <SolarisB1y> and then further errors indicating java couldnt access the jar within that folder
[23:29] <histo> nikola_: Create a whatever.desktop file
[23:30] <Spency> I just freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 64bit onto a computer, however for some reason SSH connections time out after a few minutes with an error message saying "connection pipeline broken" has anyone encountered this?
[23:30] <histo> nikola_: if you look online for minecraft tutorials you will get some ideas
[23:30] <histo> nikola_: or askubuntu.com
[23:30] <SolarisB1y> it worked fine for me histo  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715010/
[23:30] <sianhulo> moses_, 1, your wine version.2, the version that supposedly works. the program you want to install. next time try to supply as much information as you can without being asked
[23:30] <SolarisB1y> seems to be permission/ other related for him
[23:30] <fellayaboy> through an ssh connection how can i open a program on server
[23:31] <SolarisB1y> fellayaboy: type the program name - assuming its a console app
[23:31] <SolarisB1y> fellayaboy: if its a gui app you want to ssh with -X to forward X apps
[23:31] <fellayaboy> yes a gui app.
[23:31] <rsyring> Are there any projects that do one-package-no-dependency installs for ubuntu?  For example, I'd like to keep PGAdmin III updated to the latest version.  I want everything compiled static, ideally it wouldn't matter one bit what libraries I have installed on my system.
[23:31] <SolarisB1y> fellayaboy: then the latter
[23:31] <histo> nikola_: what error do you get when you run your bash script?
[23:31] <fellayaboy> but it will run a program on my client rather then opening it on the host if i use ssh -X
[23:32] <fellayaboy> i mean on the server not the host
[23:32] <Iceman_B> how do I permanently enable smart on an hdd?
[23:32] <nikola_> abc.sh: 2: cd: can't cd to /home/nikola/abc
[23:32] <nikola_> Error: Unable to access jarfile abc.jar
[23:33] <SolarisB1y> fellayaboy: well if you want to open it on the server you can set the DISPLAY and open it normally
[23:33] <moses_> sianhulo: Its actually not compatable but will linux run OSX compatable programs?
[23:33] <fellayaboy> how do i do that solarisbly
[23:33] <SolarisB1y> fellayaboy: DISPLAY=:0 VirtualBox for instance would open VirtualBox on monitor 0
[23:33] <histo> nikola_: what user are you executing the script as?
[23:33] <fellayaboy> on the server
[23:33] <nikola_> histo: the onliest user: me, nikola
[23:33] <nikola_> admin user
[23:34] <nikola_> chowned it
[23:34] <fellayaboy> so i need to ssh -x in order for that to work or no
[23:34] <nikola_> chmod 777 it
[23:34] <histo> nikola_: ls -l /home/nikola/abc
[23:34] <histo> nikola_: please paste the output of that
[23:34] <sianhulo> moses_, no. Also, please change your suername, you can do it at the bottom of the chat
[23:34] <SolarisB1y> fellayaboy: no you can do that with out -X (capital)
[23:34] <nikola_> -rwxrwxrwx 1 nikola nikola 65853 Dec  1  2010 abc.jar
[23:34] <moses_> why my username?
[23:34] <moses_> to what?
[23:34] <nikola_> mistery
[23:35] <fellayaboy> ok ...cool thanks.. but tell me something the DISPLAY-:0..if i were to do 1 2 or 3 instead of zero..and if i had multiple monitors on..it would open it up in that monitor correct
[23:35] <moses_> why cant i use moses?
[23:35] <histo> nikola_: what about the abc directory
[23:35] <SolarisB1y> fellayaboy: yes
[23:35] <fellayaboy> so what is my monitor on the client considered then...not ont he host..or is there no relation
[23:36] <Spency> when I try to ssh into server, I get the error: ssh_exchange_identification: read
[23:36] <histo> nikola_: please open a terminal.  Then copy and paste each line in your bash script. Perhaps you have a typo that we are not seeing.
[23:36] <SolarisB1y> fellayaboy: when you ssh into a server you will generally notice the DISPLAY var is not set - your on a virtual TTY
[23:36] <Spency> : Connection reset by peer
[23:36] <sianhulo> moses_, is difficult to reply to because there's someone else using that name. change it to whatever
[23:36] <SolarisB1y> fellayaboy: if you did try to run apps that required one like xset to be set - they would fail asking for a DISPLAY variable over ssh
[23:36] <fellayaboy> i see
[23:36] <histo> moses_: because someone else is using it already.
[23:36] <SolarisB1y> Spency: is that a new error? are you using ssh keys?
[23:36] <moses_> thats me also
[23:37] <nikola_> histo, trust me, because of that, I renamed folder and script and program to "abc"
[23:37] <fellayaboy> where can i find more info on DISPLAY
[23:37] <nikola_> no typing error
[23:37] <histo> !ghost | moses_
[23:37] <SolarisB1y> fellayaboy: good question =)
[23:37] <SolarisB1y> i kinda just collected mine over the years - it pops up in man pages here ant here but i never tracked it down
[23:37] <histo> nikola_: How are you calling the bash script?
[23:37] <knivez> there is that better?
[23:37] <SolarisB1y> i always just do trial and error which si sooo wrong lolZ
[23:37] <sianhulo> moses_, we reply to others using tab, that also autocompletes names but won't work when there are 2 names alike
[23:37] <DrFoo> is there a way I can call a script when a file is created in a directory?
[23:37] <SolarisB1y> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715010/
[23:38] <nikola_> abc.sh
[23:38] <SolarisB1y> i tried some testing to see if i can dig in also - this may help if your involved
[23:38] <SolarisB1y> i basically mimic'd his process - it works for me..
[23:38] <sianhulo> knivez, ok, what program are you trying to use?what wine version do you have?in what version did it work?
[23:38] <histo> nikola_: please cat abc.sh | pastebinit
[23:38] <SolarisB1y> did multiple types of execution of the script too - calling interpreter, setting x bit, from in directory, from out of directory also - all works which is weird
[23:39] <knivez> ok so i have this program that is compatable with osx but not linux and some windows.  I am trying to install this program called BIMx
[23:39] <nikola_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5715095/
[23:39] <knivez> im not sure its compatable with any versions of wine
[23:39] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: wait you said you run it with sudo? because if so that likely is changing the ~ value
[23:39] <SolarisB1y> just a FYI.
[23:39] <histo> nikola_: okay try using /home/nikola/abc in line 2
[23:39] <knivez> why about running a windows virtual server?
[23:39] <sianhulo> knivez,  if you tap sian and then the tab key, I can find your replies more easily
[23:40] <quibble> My problem is that I went into tty mode and now my computer is bugging out.***
[23:40] <knivez> sianhulo: ok
[23:40] <histo> nikola_: or just java -jar /home/nikoa/abc/abc.jar   instead of even cd'ng
[23:40] <quibble> ctrl+alt+f7 doesn't work, and i can get into tty from recovery mode but not normal boot***
[23:40] <nikola_> abc.sh: 2: cd: can't cd to /home/nikola/abc
[23:40] <nikola_> Error: Unable to access jarfile abc.jar
[23:40] <histo> nikola_: Or you may want ot put it in your path like /usr/local/bin/
[23:40] <quibble> the recovery mode "proceed with normal boot", that is***
[23:41] <sianhulo> knivez, from graphisoft?
[23:41] <knivez> sianhulo: yes sur
[23:41] <SolarisB1y> ultimately the issue seems to be the inability of the script to get to the folder and the side affect being java complaining on the same -
[23:41] <nikola_> nikola@blackbox:~/abc$ sh abc.sh
[23:41] <nikola_> Error: Unable to access jarfile /home/nikola/abc/abc.jar
[23:41] <histo> nikola_: open a terminal cat your abc.sh   then try and run it.  Also ls -l /home/nikola/abc   and then copy all that output and pastebin it
[23:41] <quibble> I've attempted startx, and sudo start gdm, none of them with any effect. It does not recognice gdm as a job***
[23:41] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: lets do this -
[23:41] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: cp /home/nikola/abc/abc.jar /tmp and adjust the script accordingly
[23:41] <knivez> sianhulo: its either wine or a virtual server of windows at this point
[23:41] <SolarisB1y> does it work then?
[23:41] <quibble> When you are done with nikola please view posts with asterisks (***)
[23:41] <pragmaticenigma> Is there anyone here familiar with OpenELEC that could help me in the #openelec room please?
[23:42] <SolarisB1y> if so you can check whats up with the perms setup there -
[23:42] <histo> !offtopic | pragmaticenigma
[23:42] <SolarisB1y> quibble: try lightdm if your on a modern ubuntu
[23:42] <sianhulo> knivez, but at this point have you tried running it?
[23:42] <knivez> in wine?
[23:42] <knivez> sianhulo: in wine?
[23:43] <nikola_> nikola@blackbox:/tmp$ sh abc.sh
[23:43] <nikola_> Error: Unable to access jarfile abc.jar
[23:43] <pragmaticenigma> histo, don't be so rash... I asked if someone could join me in the appropriate place
[23:43] <quibble> SolarisB1y: (thank you) how would i use lightdm?***
[23:43] <sianhulo> knivez, yes
[23:43] <nikola_> both script coppied to /tmp
[23:43] <nikola_> changed path in script
[23:43] <SolarisB1y> quibble: restart it the same way you were trying to restart gdm
[23:43] <SolarisB1y> its the display manager of modern ubuntu by default afaik
[23:43] <nikola_> #!/bin/bash -x
[23:43] <nikola_> java -jar abc.jar
[23:43] <histo> pragmaticenigma: I'm not being rash you are offtopic. You know where to ask your question ask it there or use alis to find an appropriate channel
[23:43] <nikola_> and still nothing
[23:43] <histo> !alis > pragmaticenigma
[23:43] <SolarisB1y> may be why gdm jobs are unknown because gdm is not lightdm
[23:43] <knivez> sianhulo: I found this: http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=213352
[23:44] <histo> nikola_: get rid of the -x
[23:44] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: shouldn't you then change it to /tmp/abc.jar
[23:44] <quibble> SolarisB1y: default afaik? The most I can do is press buttons in recovery mode and type "sudo.....". Is it a sudo start lightdm command?
[23:44] <SolarisB1y> also whast the -x doing wrong? it's increasing verbosity to see that nasty cd error
[23:45] <SolarisB1y> sudo service lightdm restart?
[23:45] <sianhulo> knivez, well that's from febraury, you could always try
[23:45] <nikola_> Error: Unable to access jarfile /tmp/abc.jar
[23:45] <nikola_> I will restart my PC.
[23:45] <histo> nikola_: why?
[23:45] <nikola_> It was updated.
[23:45] <nikola_> Installed today.
[23:45] <histo> nikola_: can you you java -jar /tmp/abc.jar   right now from a terminal?
[23:45] <nikola_> Xubuntu 12.10
[23:45] <nikola_> 186 updates
[23:45] <nikola_> histo: yes, and it works perfectly
[23:45] <SolarisB1y> dought that fixes your issue but shoot -
[23:45] <sianhulo> knivez, it's not the proper solution, but If I were you, I would try it on stable and then on wine dev
[23:45] <nikola_> I will restart
[23:46] <nikola_> back in 5
[23:46] <nikola_> thanks!
[23:46] <histo> nikola_: then create a bash script with just that line
[23:46] <histo> oh boy well there goes his .jar that was in /tmp
[23:46] <SolarisB1y> lmao
[23:46] <knivez> sianhulo: so I should install the stable version of wine and try and install the software?
[23:46] <binBlob> Hi, win7 has the option to boot from a virtual drive (vhd), there is a commercial software (vboot) that apparently does the same for linux machines, my question is: Is there something similar as an open source project ?
[23:46] <knivez> sianhulo: I dont even know how to use wine though :(
[23:46] <histo> SolarisB1y: next lesson will be in file recovery
[23:47] <SolarisB1y> lols and today kids we disable "temp-watch"
[23:47] <sianhulo> knivez, you just install it from repos, and you just doble click the .exe
[23:47] <quibble> SolarisB1y: It seemed to have worked (it flashed for a second with a bunch of what looked like loading information in terminal, in the tty) But then my computer screen went black (not off, just black)
[23:47] <histo> binBlob: virtualbox
[23:47] <quibble> SolarisB1y: This is the same thing that happens when I try to open tty in normal boot
[23:48] <SolarisB1y> quibble: after you restart lightdm try and switch back to TTY on F7
[23:48] <eset> hola
[23:48] <SolarisB1y> if it's hung = its hung you need to start looking at logs then = the restart was to try and get you out of stuck mode though
[23:48] <binBlob> histo: how do I boot a virtual drive with virtualbox ? I am pretty sure you can't do that.
[23:48] <eset> nesecito ayuda
[23:49] <quibble> SolarisB1y: I am confused. I typed "sudo start lightdm"
[23:49] <quibble> SolarisB1y: Is there a reason that I was black-screened? Or is that loading. It has been 4 minutes.
[23:49] <quibble> or so
[23:49] <histo> binBlob: Why are you using virtual drives in the first place?
[23:49] <nikola_> guys, still nothing
[23:49] <SolarisB1y> binBlob: i think kvm can do this or vbox
[23:49] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: i didn't expect that to work - =)
[23:50] <Senjai> what can I do about the touchpad sensitivity problem on ubuntu. It's my main reason for not wanting to stay with it, It triggers mouse clicks while I'm typing and it makes routine tasks difficult
[23:50] <histo> nikola_: well now your files in /tmp are gone
[23:50] <nikola_> guys
[23:50] <binBlob> histo: It would be damn convenient
[23:50] <SolarisB1y> quibble: there can be many reasons - you should start checking logs if your lightdm is not displaying anything but black - can you provide more info? did it ever work? what were you doing when it hung? is htis just simply a hung desktop and you didn't reboot yet?
[23:50] <SolarisB1y> xyz and so forth...
[23:50] <histo> nikola_: I want you to open a terminal  type in java -jar /where/ever/abc.jar    then exit the application then execute your script which only has the java -jar /where/ever/abc.jar in it
[23:50] <ObrienDave> Senjai, there is a setting for that. let me find it
[23:51] <histo> binBlob: Well i'm pretty sure virtualbox handles vhd
[23:51] <Senjai> ObrienDave: I downloaded gpointing, but it doesn't solve the problem
[23:51] <binBlob> SolarisB1y: I am talkin about booting a virtal drive as a normal os ... no virtualisation
[23:51] <nikola_> one thing may save the day. How to export Screen when running over ssh? EXPORT DISPLAY:0 works, but it opens on 1 workplace. how to open it in second?
[23:52] <quibble> SolarisB1y: I'll give the whole story: I was altering the desktop with the customization thing that ubuntu has. You know, the one that lets you do cubes and flippy desktops and sparkly mouse pointers, etc. So, I tried making "alt+ctrl+f12" a key binding.
[23:52] <nikola_> histo, and?
[23:52] <histo> binBlob: you'd have to dd the info out to a normal drive and then just boot. but now your hardware changed... So if this is windows good luck
[23:52] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: set the display accordingly
[23:52] <nikola_> how?
[23:52] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: if you mean at the same time you will need another facility to pin things to multi displays
[23:52] <eset> what have optimized xubuntu
[23:52] <quibble> SolarisB1y: To my dismay, I was put into tty mode. I didn't know how to enter my password and login (until later on) so i basically spammed every key combination in the book.
[23:52] <SolarisB1y> nikola_: DISPLAY=:1 for example..
[23:52] <nikola_> DISPLAY: some number?
[23:52] <SolarisB1y> yes
[23:52] <quibble> SolarisB1y: Now, I went to recovery mode, and clicked "continue with normal boot" so that I could get to tty mode
[23:53] <SolarisB1y> i see
[23:53] <histo> eset: chicken feet
[23:53] <SolarisB1y> then you are likely in a lower run level than graphical
[23:53] <quibble> SolarisB1y: So, i logged in and typed "sudo start lightdm" and it flashed some info then when black screen
[23:53] <eset> sorry
[23:53] <quibble> lower run level?
[23:53] <SolarisB1y> yes
[23:53] <quibble> i don't know what that means but the word "graphical" rings a bell
[23:53] <quibble> i may have tried something with that.
[23:53] <binBlob> histo: no windows 7 can do this you can just choose a vhd straight up from the bios ...
[23:53] <SolarisB1y> have you reboot yet - ?
[23:53] <quibble> yeah a bunch of times
[23:54] <SolarisB1y> quibble: the idea of the recovery mode is fix the issue and reboot into a working system - so that never worked huh?
[23:54] <eset> not spyke english
[23:54] <eset> help
[23:54] <quibble> It didn't...
[23:54] <SolarisB1y> hrm
[23:54] <ObrienDave> !es | eset
[23:54] <SolarisB1y> quibble: maybe post your X logs for others to take a peek at then
[23:55] <binBlob> histo: your whole os is pretty much a single file, with all settings partitions and all the other stuff
[23:55] <eset> trank you
[23:55] <SolarisB1y> /var/log/Xorg.*.log quibble
[23:55] <quibble> SolarisB1y: Well, maybe it did. But the black screen is preventing me from knowing if it did. Is there a way to recover the graphical thing to work? Also, how do I post x logs? nvm lol ty
[23:55] <histo> binBlob: So then do that?  I'm not sure what you are asking.
[23:55] <nikola_> thanks guys
[23:55] <nikola_> see ya
[23:55] <nikola_> good night!
[23:55] <quibble> ?
[23:55] <binBlob> histo: I am asking about the same stuff for linux
[23:56] <quibble> SolarisB1y: I typed this into chat : "/var/log/Xorg.*.log quibble"
[23:56] <SolarisB1y> uhhh
[23:56] <Guest61597> Hello
[23:56] <histo> binBlob: You'd have to see if grub supports booting from an image file.
[23:56] <ObrienDave> Senjai, sorry, I can't find the setting. I have my touchpad disabled and I use a USB mouse
[23:57] <histo> binBlob: more specifically grub2... How does any of this relate to ubuntu by the way?
[23:57] <SolarisB1y> you can try to install pastebinit - and do cat /var/log/Xorg.*.log | pastebinit quibble
[23:57] <SolarisB1y> i meant to post those logs to pastebin - thats the only way i know without gui
[23:57] <quibble> SolarisB1y: is quibble my username? on the computer it's "john"
[23:57] <SolarisB1y> quibble: is your username
[23:57] <quibble> ok
[23:57] <binBlob> histo: well what does ubuntu use to boot ?
[23:58] <SolarisB1y> atleast i hope so - that would be a nasty trick to play on an old person like me if not!
[23:58] <SolarisB1y> ;>
[23:58] <Guest61597> i need to to atack the website www.saopaulo.sp.gov.br who want help me?
[23:58] <Senjai> ObrienDave: Thats fine, thanks anyway.
[23:58] <quibble> SolarisB1y: Well i mean my login on the computer-
[23:58] <SolarisB1y> binBlob: it uses grub to boot by default which loads flat files or isos
[23:58] <puff> I'm on 12.4 LTS. I just plugged in a new thermaltake blacx external drive enclosure with a WD black 2TB drive in it.  Gparted saw the drive fine and I partitioned it as an NTFS drive.  But ubuntu isn't automounting it. How do I get ubuntu to automount it?
[23:58] <SolarisB1y> quibble: those can be different - my login on my box isn't SolarisBoy
[23:58] <quibble> cat /var/log/Xorg.*.log | pastebinit quibble
[23:58] <quibble> lol
[23:58] <SolarisB1y> B1y even
[23:58] <quibble> idk
[23:59] <SolarisB1y> quibble: leave the quibble off the end and install pastebinit first ofcourse
[23:59] <puff> Oh, it's plugged in via esata... maybe that's why it's not automounting.  But in that case, how do I mount an esata?
[23:59] <SolarisB1y> puff: same as any other - in fstab
[23:59] <quibble> cat /var/log/Xorg.*.log | pastebinit
[23:59] <quibble> apt-get install pastebinit
[23:59] <quibble> xD
[23:59] <SolarisB1y> very nice....